Herald Brat 125 Review: The perfect bike for CBT and beyond?
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- Herald Brat 125 Review: Here it is - the antidote to biking exotica, a back to basics no nonsense bike oozing with cool...in this video I ride the Herald Brat 125 and tell you what I think of this budget learner/commuter bike. Oh, and before anyone pipes up in the comments, yes it was recorded in the summer and yes I know the mic sounds a bit poppy and scratchy...my apologies in advance.....I hope you enjoy the video none the less!
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I love that you still do 125 reviews 👍
Love it, riding 20 years, never got into bigger bikes, smaller ones are so much fun!! great to see these types of reviews. Looking forward to more on this bike, see how durable etc, and fantastic to see a British company with this.
Cheers Alistair - thanks for watching!
Yeah, I've become very disillusioned with big, powerful bikes in recent years. I think 125 to 650 is the best span of sizes for bikes unless your into 2 up touring. My personal sweet spot is around 500. Enough power to progress, light enough to manage, can use all the power on every ride but has the best performance between 20 and 60, just where the speed limits are. Amazing that.
Hi Andy, you’ve inspired me to document my journey on TH-cam as an older rider through my CBT and beyond! I love your content and hopefully I can then help someone with their journey in the future. 👍🏻👍🏻
Nice one - I'll go check it out....
Definitely giving Mutt a run for their money in the best looking 125 bike bracket. Personally I prefer the Herald
I own a mutt mastiff and its fair to say if I had seen one of these I might have had one.
@@SD-tj5dh the mutts are lovely looking bikes though and fun and easy to ride
Seen the Mutt Razorback?
@@Shane988 yes. Bloody awful!
I’m prefer the mutt. Seat heights lower, so might be good for a shorty or newby
I have a 125 for commuting, nothing better for it, 250 miles from £12 worth of fuel, will do 65-70 mph, £20 Road tax and peanuts to insure, like you said, everybody should have one.
That sounds great...do you mind me asking what bike you have? Cheers
@@domkane30 I have a 2017 Honda CB125F. Great bike.
@@Chris-gj4br ah nice one! I've been looking at that too. Cheers mate
@@Chris-gj4br had one aswell for my CBT 2016, wish i'de kept it now for commuter, got tiger 800 now loving it aswell.
@@chrisatpreston yeah, I kept mine to rack the daily mileage up on and its mega simple and cheap to run and service, ideal for keeping my speed triple in decent order 👍
That’s really exciting news right there, fully British made, let’s hope they do 👏🏻😎
Great review. My Cb500fa for touring, Worx 125 for local rides and town suit me. I have the best of both worlds. 62 years in the saddle and despite 27 makes and models of bikes I've found my ideal combination. No, not a sidecar combination. Just cancelled my subscription to two biking mags as they concentrate on tall, powerful thirsty bikes to which I no longer relate. I can't see the point of 130, 140 mph when you can't use all that power. Still, at 79 yrs old I don't want a bike that goes faster than I can THINK. Happy riding in the New Year. JB of Gosport.
Hi, I feel the same way about motorcycle press as you. We are being brainwashed into thinking we need 270kg bike to ride through a muddy field. No one seems to understand Physic anymore.
Andy, a tour of the Herald factory or assembly facilities would be a great video. Maybe an opportunity for going to other British based assembly facilities? Motorcycle, bicycle, boating and aviation? Just a thought.
Funny you should say that I was thinking earlier about a very similar idea!
@@TheMissendenFlyer This is a great idea. Would like to see this sort of content on your channel Andy:-)
Spot on Earl Bigod, that would be interesting. On all British built models from Triumph to sinnis
@@TheMissendenFlyer - A Brompton factory tour and review!
Like the sound of this...👍
Andy, any chance you could review the new water-cooled engine in the Herald Brat? It's been updated since this video but I've not seen much talk about it!
Excited to hear they're going to manufacture the whole bike eventually. I'll have to offer my support, it's the least I could do (would that sentiment convince the wife I wonder?)
Couldn't agree more. It actually gives me some hope when I hear that there are British companies manufacturing good things!
Nice look’n bike, and with the right tyres could be good fun off road.
Your definitely the champ at Reviews Andy.
Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year. May 2021 be all you would like it to be
Thanks, you too!
Really like your review and good to see a bike that is more affordable for many people. Will be interested to see/hear how it holds up over time. Cheers - and happy New Year.
Happy new Year Phil!
In today’s market, global manufacturing is to be expected. The real question a buyer needs to consider is the overall QC of the finished product. I’m old enough to remember when bikes from Japan were thought of as “suspect” quality, and we certainly don’t think that way now 😉. I always get a chuckle when you point out frame welds that are a bit dodgy because I can remember the Spanish bikes of the 70’s looking like the frames were held together with a series of “warts” and not welds 😆. The first time I saw a Rickman frame I couldn’t take my eyes of the welds, a true work of art 🤩.
Yes there's no doubt welding quality does vary on bikes - even on this single bike it goes from cool on the exhaust to hideous on the frame.....
I often wonder where motorcycling is headed. There's nothing more linear and tactile, when it comes to riding something, that really connects you to the road. As the saying goes.. " if it aint broke, don't fix it".
Hi Glad you have come down to earth,reviews like this will increase your subscribers towards the younger generation. HAPPY NEW YEAR. BeingMe
Happy new year!
Got my CBT in Feb. This is very tempting to me as a learner while I work on the further licences throughout next year. Sounds by your review it might be a good choice for me. Pretty smart looking bike too.
Best of luck!
Hey great to see an affordable bike review I have been watching Herald for couple of years would like buy British. More reviews of their bikes would be great I may even sell the NTV and take the plunge 😄
I’ve had bikes from 50cc to 1100cc and everyone has been fun. I don’t think this one is going to be any different. Looks a great machine.
Great video of such a lovely bike.Glad that you not forget about
this sort of bikes.I hope you will do a review of the new
Royal Enfield Meteor 350 someday...👍
You can bet money on it!
Great watch. For the money you can't knock it. As Bruce, Richy and Mr Fish demonstrated you can have a lot of fun even if your used to 100bhp+ Its a pity it's gone back because it would have been interesting to see how the quality held up over the winter. Thanks for sharing. Happy new year to you and family. Thanks for keeping me entertained during a testing year. I hope 2021 is going to get us somewhere close to what used to be the normal
Well said!
Been riding over thirty years, so much fun on a small bike. Toured France on a 125 and 250.
Hoping we have a better year next year Andy.
I hope so too!
Good to see small companies starting to make bikes again in the UK. It seems well sorted for a 125 though I can't understand why the EU haven't made ABS compulsory on this type of bike. I get that putting it on adds cost but as the target riders are learners so at more risk it just doesn't make sense to me at all.
Them brake callipers pop more than the mic 😂
Great little bike. Great review.
Sounds like you need to move your microphone to one side to cut down on the 'popping'. 😊
Indeed - I refer you to the note in the description!
Loving the energy you have of just having fun motorcycling on a 125!
Thank you very much Emrie!
What a cracking little bike! It would be great if they made a 250cc version. Definitely good for a few green lanes. Assembled in the UK is becoming a thing nowadays, and why not? Engines and frames are made in China for many other top brand bikes. I imagine it allows UK pruducers to compete with Chinese bikes, which is a good thing.
Edit. I've just googled Brat 250 and it comes out in March 2021. Get on to Herald and book a test drive for a review please Andy.
I agree - the more choice out there the better! Particularly at this end of the price spectrum....
What a fun video. I learned to ride on a 125 on dirt roads and learned things about traction and maintaining corner speeds that I still use today. (Big difference in how we do motorbike licenses over here. Once you pass your paper-and-pencil and road tests, you can buy and ride any kind of bike you want.)
Scary biscuits!
I've been riding 44 years and these last few years have brought some appealing new bikes at a great price
I sure as hell hope that custom can is lacquered or treated in some way otherwise those welds are going to be seeds for oxidisation sites.
For those that don't know, colouration from heat on stainless steel is damage to the chrome layer that gives the stainless steel its corrosion/rust resistance, hence, the colouration on the can is at risk of rusting specifically where the welds are. Those welds should be pickled and passivated.
Source: I weld stainless and stainless variants for the biopharmaceutical industry.
Thanks for the inside knowledge! They did look lacquered to me but couldn't swear on it....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Good to know! would hate to see such nice looking work get rusty!
had one of this piece of scrap under the name of "Minsk SCR 250" (with 250 cc engine though). "Made in Belarus" they said. but this "made in" was just re-assembling Fuego Scrambler 250 made in China and partly disassembled before shipping to Belarus. This is exactly the same "made in England"... My was anaemic with 250cc, this one should be slow up to "unsafe on the roads"... The only bright side of this bike is an exhaust pipe. Funny pops under closed throttle.
Same experience with this scrap called “Avantis”. 1500 km and it is done.
Back in the early 80s my wife rode a Honda CB 125, i had a Suzuki GT 750. One day she asked me to ride it to the bike shop for service, i was amazed at the difference of being on a small bike, scared me too death, cars were oblivious, felt a million times safer on the 750.
Interesting vid, be real nice to see a UK manufacturer doing good! Look forward to seeing the Brute too
Nice to hear someone who's ope minded with regards to the bikes that are coming in from China. As a born again biker I decided at 50 I wanted to get back on 2 wheels. I treated myself to the lexmoto lxr and ran it for a trouble free year before passing my test
Nice one Sean!
What a promising bike review to end the year on ;) It really appeals to me, not just for the CBT. Seems like it might be a good commuter ride. It seems to fall in your category of 'all that you need, and nothing that you don't'. I look forward to them producing an entirely British bike. Happy New Year to you and the Mrs.
Happy new year to you too!
Looks really good! Reminds me a bit of the Indian FTR 1200. That Brute looks really interesting! Happy new year mr Flyer!
Happy new year!
'Bryants Bottom Road' - I had plans to go up there but the bad weather rectum...
Very good sir!
@@TheMissendenFlyer 😉
I’m glad someone commented on that road, or I would have had to
Hi is Mrs Flyer going to have a go as she has got her CBT and her review would be good
Well that was the original plan but unfortunately the bike was too tall for her so we had to send it back and think again....we have something else lined up now ;0)
@@TheMissendenFlyer Grom maybe?
No chance.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer mutt mastiff?
@@TheMissendenFlyer 😄 all the best for the new year, thanks for all your high quality entertainment throughout 2020 👍
The Speedo is directed so the kid that’s standing on the fork mounted foot pegs in China can tell his mom how fast she’s going. Since my sons at university in Nanjing China and I’m apparently part owner of a scooter that’s my guess. Plus I work over there often and see like three kids, Mom and sometimes the dog holding on for dear life on these bikes. The welding looks on par with the structures I climb up all day in China too. Nice roads there TMF!!! All the very best for 2021 here’s to a better year than last year 👍👍👍👍
Amen to that Colin!
Bit late to the party - but woo Herald! I've started with a Herald 125 Cafe racer :)
Elizabeth Rose I love mine.I’ve had a couple of issues with the fuel lines and electrics but in general it’s been great.
What a fantastic looking bike,I would had loved this when I was 17,great vid.
You and me both!
Great review as always, looks like a decent bike for 3 k , looking forward to seeing the brute 500 👊
You and me both!
Really looking forward to seeing you review the Brute.
Nice review of a very cool & stylish little bike. I remember checking out the Herald stand at the last NEC show as they looked great at a fantastic price.
Yes cool bits of kit aren’t they....
Great video. I took my UK motorcycle test on a Triumph Tiger Cub 250 in 1981. Also a simple single cylinder bike. This seems to be a big improvement: more speed, better brakes, less vibration. Herald seems to be coming a bit late to the party with petrol engines expected to be banned in 2030. I can’t help but think e-bikes are the way to go. I’m riding rented 125cc bikes in Vietnam and they are surprisingly competent - even to the point of carrying 2 passemgers with luggage over mountain passes.
Nice one!
The 2030 ban on sales of ICE cars and vans, does not include motorcycles and scooters
@@BigBadLoneWolf oh, really? I didn’t know that. Personally, I’m trying to move to electric sooner rather than later.
A good bike to learn on and gain experience especially in preparation for the UK Mod 1 & Mod 2 tests. The latest model of the bike, the one with the radiator has a bit more power.
Good to know! Cheers....
Lovely looking 125 TMF, will be interesting to see your review on the Brat 500. I took the plunge and bought a KTM Duke 125 for 3K only because there was nothing else around, every 125 in the South East was sold out or waiting until March/April 2021. (thank you Covid ) anyways I'm learning how to ride my 125, in the space of 1 month i've dropped it twice, spun the bike around in the wet and stalled it more times than I can remember ! all on a CBT, slowly but surely I'm beginning to relax and calm down. It was a good choice to buy a 125 outright rather than pay £90 a lesson, cant wait to pass my DAS course after the winter is over. Thanks for another great review and a Happy New Year to you and mrs Flyer
Good luck it and Happy New Year to you too....
Great positive review, Triumph missed a trick not having a small cc bike in the range. Ministry transport website says 13,786 bike tests conducted a year
I agree!
What a cool looking bike. I like all of it. Would prefer a Japanese donk though ..not because of reliability, just because these are copied directly and it doesn't sit right. ...anyway, wish we could get these in NZ. Back in the day we called those trials tyres and we all had them on our scramblers and rode them everywhere. Road, dirt, sandy trails. Then we got all cool and got "knobblies"!!
great review again TMF - thank you. Would be interesting for us punters if you tried a Mutt 125 for comparison. Compliments of the season to you and your family.
Like this you mean? th-cam.com/video/pmxlr1CrNHk/w-d-xo.html
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes indeed - thank you!
I've a Brixton 125 cafe racer style. A Chinese made/Austrian badged machine same engine as the Herald by the look of it. Absolutely loving it as I am new to motorcycling. Although I paid half the price @TMF quoted for the Herald.
Wow a bargain then!
Good review Mr Flyer, decent looking bike I started on a CB125 many moons ago
looks great fun, loved the Mary Poppins quote "in the most delightful way "
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!
Very interesting! Nice to see,and hear of a new British company! The bike looks lovely.
Indeed!
Nice design, nice idea however I'm a bit wary of European bikes made with Chinese parts, maybe I'm too old fashion thinking we should go the other way round... don't think you buy a Ducati for its mirrors neither hahaha
Best of luck to them. I won’t lie as a rebadger of Chinese tatt I wasn’t particularly interested in them, but clearly they are going to try and make it as a an actual manufacturer so all the more power to them!
Hopefully they can move any future overseas manufacturing to Taiwan though so they don’t get done like scomadi now they’re pushing their own designs
Get mrs flyer to have a go at the Honda cb125r neo-cafe. Feels very stable for a 125, nice chunky tyres and reliable 👍🏻 great video as always love the looks 😁
I enjoyed this Andy. Does the bike come with a Warranty? I can't recall if you mentioned it, apologies if you did.
Errr, can't honestly remember....
Just love the look of this bike. I have a 750, a 500 and a 125 and I do love a chug out on the 125. Can’t wait to see the Brute. Thanks TMF 👍
My pleasure....
A shame we don't have these in the US I really love and trust your reviews these really look awesome absolutely love this little brat 125 and that copper color is killer and that exhaust crazy handmade looking
Ideal indeed for commuting, getting around in your neighborhood or just ride for the fun of it. No parking problems, there always be a small spot where you can park it.
It reminds me on my youth riding a 50cc bike; great fun while riding with your friends.
But.... a 250-500cc can do the same, has a bit more power, probably has luggage capacity, screen etc.
That is very cool! Love the LED indicators and the matte finish on the tank.
Me too!
sounds lovely, worth going off road on this
Things have certainly come on leaps and bounds since I started on my humble Honda 50. I graduated to a Triumph Terrier 150 for my test in 1969 and went down hill from there!!. I still have my Suzuki RF900 RW abandoned in the storage unit having given up riding now. A terrific little bike in general but maybe a bit tall for the average lady rider, perhaps they could address that and bring out a lower seat version!!
Indeed, that would be handy for my Mrs.....
There’s so many great 125 choices these days. I’m pretty old although behind you TMF and when I was learning there wasn’t all of these great choices. I would happily zip around on something like this for a town bike.
So would I - no quicker way to get through London traffic!
The 125cc bikes are great fun.
ive got a vfr 800 and a dl650 plus a derbi 125cc and find the we bike just as much fun as its bigger brothers
An interesting and thought provoking review
Gday mate that brute is that a twin or single ,good review and i rekon with some tweeking sprockets ect this bike could be a winner for the new riders im sure there will be someone who will mod it , the exhaust looks damb good as you say welds are a bit hows your father time will tell how they will hold up.
Looks like a single, probably related to the Suzuki GN125 engine.
Great review of a cracking little bike for the price.......stay safe......thanks for sharing
Neat look forward to the 500 version
👍 Cool looking bike
Great to see a company bringing manufacturing back to Britain
Couldn't agree more!
Very nice Andy and for 3k what's not to love keep up the great work
Great looking bike, think my wife needs one 😁👍🏻
TMF - check out the Zontes U125. Same price, full 15bhp, liquid cooled and even better looking. The scrambler is gorgeous, check out the rear wheel
So will Misses Flyer (Carol), now that she has her CBT be having a go on this 125 mmmm
Fantastic review once again Andy 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
That was the plan (and hence why we had arranged to keep it for a long while) but sadly the bike was too tall for her....
What a cool bike, it's like an XSR700 / 900 front end meets Z900RS back end. Smiles for miles for little money, a winner indeed. Thanks TMF, really enjoyed that one.
Glad you liked it Colin.....
What a brilliant bike let’s hope more can be done here in the uk,
Absolute hoot to have one to run round the lanes or going to town
Do I sense Carol squeezing one into the man cave great video cheers terry 👍🏍🎄
Sadly this was too tall for her - out plan was to keep it long term for her to practice on but alas she couldn't reach the floor!
Took delivery of one of these a month ago, can't wait for the follow up videos. Did have the clutch pedal link fall apart on the first ride, I've put that down to the dealer rather than Herald.
Hi was thinking to get the new version of this bike, how did it go with yours? it seems it's not the most reliable bike on the market, how was your experience? cheers!
You mean the clutch lever, mine almost came apart too, it needs a nyloc nut or a grub washer to stop it coming loose.
@@audimanuk I must have been tired writing the above. I meant the link between the gear pedal and the gearbox. Also had the ignition barrel fail so I now have different keys for the ignition and fuel.
A few years ago (having just sold a Hayabusa) I bought myself a Honda 125 Varadero in a moment of madness.....nonetheless, it was hilarious, so easy to ride, and I loved every minute of it.
Right on!
I sat on one of these at the bike show in birmingham last year, ever since I really wanted the 250cc version they are some day going to release, but considering it's £3k new I'm so tempted to get one because it probably won't depreciate too much, plus it looks the biz and sounds great
It sure does....
Great review 👍 have you looked at the Mash x-ride 650? That's a nice looking bike with the gold wheels and white paint. Only £4999 too.
Yes I have...cool looking thing.
What a gorgeous little bike! I'd happily ride that
Yes cool isn’t it!
Turns on a sixpence, reminds me of a BSA Bantam....🤣 Back to the Sixties I think not! Leave those days well and truly behind. Had a Grom upto 2 years ago, throughly loved it, 125 riding is so refreshing than litre plus biking. Now... I wouldn’t normally look at a lesser known brand such as the Herald, so well done to you promoting the brand.
Well I’m not intending to promote them in particular just saying what I think to the bike! And it was a lot of fun to ride to the max....try that on a litre bike!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer No thanks! Don’t want my collar felt.
Great looking bike, the brute sounds interesting as well. These sort of bikes must be a dream to commute and filter on 👍
Agreed!
Do agree them welds look shabby.
That looked fun! Being an SR500 fan I'm quite interested in the 500 Brute. Hope you get one of those as a long termer. Looks like I have two Herald dealers within 20 mins ride. At 7k the Brute looks like a cracking bike for weekend B-road blasting!
Yes I need to have a go on one for sure!
3 grand for that or 3 grand for zontes G1. The G1 is full power LC, bosch abs and EFI. Rim spoked wheels like a BMW, alloy swing arm. Comes with crash bars and bung. Euro 5. If you can get a ride you won't be disappointed.
125cc bikes really are loads of fun. My first bike was a Honda XL125 back in the early 80’s. That was such a laugh to ride.
Yes it did look quite tall for any shorter rider to cope with at the lights etc. Hope Mrs Flyer finds a bike which will help build up her hours and confidence. Is the smaller Royal Enfield single CBT compliant? Maybe that would be a good way to go as it looks like it has a pretty low seat height. I’m assuming Carole will be able to ride the rest of the bikes in the garage over the coming years as her experience builds.
Yep this one is too tall and no the RE isn’t a 125cc so can’t be ridden in a CBT - we have something else planned for Carole to practice on! Stay tuned!
Japanese design, Chinese simplicity and affordability, with British spirit, it’s truly amazing and reminds me slightly of the triumph trident in that respect.
Good looking and British assembled to. Whats not to like? Note - you need to update your "my current motorcycles are' section as you no longer have the CRF.......:-)
Well spotted - I'm on it.....
Yes im 72 and been with 2:50 bikes since i was 16 but now finding my ntv 650 is getting too heavy to wherl about , been looking at the bruloc 125 hero , ive sat on one and liked it quite a lot
Great review!
Would be great to see you ride my first bike as a late starter. A 1978 Honda CG125 which I believe is still going!
Looks like a fun bike, hope you get the Brute (?) to ride.
What gloves are you wearing ?
"It's a single, but very few vibrations".... You need a proper single for that, one that communicates with the rider through the chassis!👍
I got a 125 when did my CBT to practice whilst going through my A license, bought it for £800 and got my money back selling it, always in demand 125's but you don't need to spend much if it's a practice bike.
This looks good reminds me of a Yamaha XSR
Agreed.....coincidentally one of my old school pals was called Oliver Matthews.....funny old world eh?
Life is full of surprises...when I woke up this morning I never thought I would be asking google to tell me about "Brian's bottom"... I gather, however, that its "Bryants bottom"... and it looks like a good area for a ride!.
Got to love English place names eh?
What a great little good looking bike! And it did remind me of my first bike the good old BSA Bantam 175, lots of fun until a car pulled out right in front of me and unfortunately wrote it off. Nice one as usual TMF 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Superb.
Simpl, fun, cheap. If 3000 is cheap.
What's not to like?
Happy travels
I've seen these at the NEC show and they always look great 👍
I love how none of these reviews show these styles of bikes with L plates.