Canadian Studebaker Mystery

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  • Steve examines a Canadian-built Studebaker Cruiser sedan. If Studebaker closed its American factory in 1963, why did it keep building cars in Canada through 1966? Was it to avoid a class action lawsuit? Watch and see.

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  • @googleusergp
    @googleusergp ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As noted by others, Studebaker didn't "move" to Canada, they were already there and production was shifted after South Bend closed. This appears to be a 1964 or 1965 with the four headlight system as 1966 would bring single headlights. The V8 engine used was straight from the GM parts bin, a 283 V8 that Chevrolet used in its models. Looks like code 6419 Bermuda Brown exterior paint.
    With that said, hopefully Mr. Magnante is back in business again soon.

    • @SteveMagnante
      @SteveMagnante  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@googleusergp Hello googleusergp, thanks for the Canadian Studebaker/ McKinnon details. On other news, I spent yesterday scouting potential video vehicles at Bernardston Auto Wrecking. Even got to give Queen Katie some fresh roast beef! I hope to return to the Junkyard Crawl videos in the coming month. Please stay tuned. Your Friend, Steve Magnante

    • @googleusergp
      @googleusergp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SteveMagnante Good to hear and we'll be looking out for it.

  • @harnettsgarage
    @harnettsgarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I live in Hamilton, Ontario. I work about 4 blocks from the old Studebaker factory location, now the Stubebaker industrial park. I know the man that announced to the world that the world they were closing in 66. Stu Chapman, he was VP of Public Relations and Advertising. He wrote a book called " My father the car, it goes into different ventures that Studebaker was into, and continued on after car production ended." It's a pretty interesting book if you can find it. He's still around, along with a few others that probably assembled parts of my 66.
    Another way to tell a Canadian Studebaker is by all of them having white steering wheels and a small piece of stainless trim to protect the dash from cigarette burns above the ash tray. 65-66 Studes still retained the Borg-Warner 3 speed automatics that were used behind the Stude engines, with slight differences to the V8 model, such as a TV cable instead of a rod/linkage set up. They never used power glides, they got the gm to borg-warner pieces from Checker to made them work with the GM engines.

    • @chrisbarker3965
      @chrisbarker3965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I live in Hamilton too my grandfather worked in that plant till 1966

    • @harnettsgarage
      @harnettsgarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@chrisbarker3965 That's awesome, I know the guy that either helped install my headliner, or my dashboard. My 66 Cruiser was built in December of 65, and he transitioned to dashboard installation at some point that month. He did install the dash in the very last car.

    • @nathandwyer7273
      @nathandwyer7273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Several years ago, I picked up a copy of Track and Traffic magazine from 1966. Track and Traffic was Canada's leading automotive magazine throughout the 1960s.
      Most notable about the issue, was a very professionally photographed and designed full colour multi page brochure for the 1966 Studebaker lineup. Saddle-stitched (stapled) into the centre spread.
      If Studebaker was trying to get out of the car business, this flashy (and expensive to design/print/insert) brochure, seemed to reflect otherwise!

    • @harnettsgarage
      @harnettsgarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nathandwyer7273 I have that issue, along with one about the 66 Daytona that was supposed to go in the Shell rally in 66. I also have the one with the 66 Cruiser test drive, it also has the 66 Charger test drive in it. Kinda cool, my boss has a 66 Charger and I have the 66 Cruiser

    • @nathandwyer7273
      @nathandwyer7273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@harnettsgarage That is very cool! Congratulations! Studebaker Canada was awarded the Track and Traffic 'Golden Wheel Award' in 1964, for Car of the Year. Same year the Mustang and GTO were introduced. lol There may have been some payola going on between Studebaker Canada and Track and Traffic.

  • @davidjohnmiller4849
    @davidjohnmiller4849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Studebaker didn’t move to Canada in 1963 .... Studebaker built cars in Hamilton Ontario Canada from 1947 ( until the plant closed in 1966 ) . As I was born and raised in Hamilton I know all about them .

    • @seed_drill7135
      @seed_drill7135 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep. And the engines were Studebaker’s through the end of the ‘64 model year, they just made excess inventory to carry through production after closing the foundry.

    • @jeffs7944
      @jeffs7944 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe combining Steve's statements he implied that all production was consolidated to Canada, not that they opened a new facility there.

  • @marygott66
    @marygott66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm a mopar guy myself but I just bought 19 64 Studebaker With a 289 Studebaker V8 I'm smiling from ear to ear

    • @scootergeorge7089
      @scootergeorge7089 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Early '64 models were built in South Bend with Studebaker's own engines.

  • @raymondpetrovits2336
    @raymondpetrovits2336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I can’t talk that fast or think that fast. I am a lifelong Mopar fan and really enjoy Steve rattle of the information for us to absorb slowly. Just saw you at Barrett Jackson pointing out even more facts. I love it.

    • @chevdad1566
      @chevdad1566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Heck, I'm a Chevy guy but I love hearing him break down these cars by the numbers.

    • @tomtheplummer7322
      @tomtheplummer7322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm 🤔. I usually play him back at 1.25 or 1.5x speeds.

    • @tedhewitson823
      @tedhewitson823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know we're the very last car off Hamilton line was in guelph area. It was a 4dr 230 chev 6 cyl with Studebaker sticker on valve cover. Similar boxy car as this one. It was so rotted away and scrapped 25 years ago. I should have kept the engine and valve cover

    • @The_sinner_Jim_Whitney
      @The_sinner_Jim_Whitney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s pretty hilariously out of his element talking about GMs (Fords, probably, too? Dunno, don’t know about Fords). He’s a Chrysler genius, and has forgotten more than I’ll probably ever know about those cars like my big cousin (hardcore Mopar guy, specifically RoadRunners and Magnums/Miradas). He makes a lot of mistakes about GMs (maybe because he simply doesn’t like or care about them), but he remains a WEALTH of automotive historical knowledge.
      I’d love for Steve to find himself under the tutelage of Leno before it’s over, he’d be a valuable asset to that section of Leno’s automotive historical stewardship. He’d probably tune all those old big Chryslers up just a SMIDGE hotter than factory, too, haha!

    • @pauldollak994
      @pauldollak994 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is completely wrong about the history of Studebaker in Canada, sorry to say.

  • @ZIPCORD
    @ZIPCORD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    As someone already mentioned Studebaker didn't "go" to Canada, they were already there. The reason they CONTINUED there is stated correctly. '64 cars still had the Studebaker engines. Correct, the '65 and '66 Studebakers got the GM (McKinnon) inline 6 and the 283 "Chevy" engines. While easily changed the late Canadian cars had white wheels and steering wheels. The transmission wasn't a Powerglide, rather the Borg Warner cast iron 3 speed (considered a very strong transmission similar to the Ford FMX). The bellhousing to adapt this transmission to the GM (McKinnon) engine was already in use by Checker - of taxi cab fame.
    Search You Tube for "Studebaker - The Plain Brown Wrapper" and Goodwood Saint Mary's Trophy. The PBR car is a supercharged Studebaker and the SMT car dices the twisty course with Britain's best sedans. I have an odd find for So. Cal.. A '64 Canadian built (originally Studebaker engine) Daytona with the McKinnon engine swap sometime in its life. Currently it has a 350 Corvette engine and a 700R4.

    • @5610winston
      @5610winston 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The last Studebaker off the line in Hamilton in 1966 was a Wagonaire, a remarkably practical station wagon designed by Brooks Stevens and introduced in 1962 as a '63 model. That car was equipped with the 230 cube McKinnon engine available as an option in 1966.
      The last Stude assembled was a knock-down kit that had been shipped to a Kaiser assembly plant in Israel.
      Those interested in Studebakers at the drag strip should also check out Ted Harbit's "Stude Tomato" and "Chicken Hawk" drag cars. Word of caution, though, there will probably be some unintended references when you look up the last car mentioned.
      Harbit raced a '51 Commander Starlight for many years, with various Studebaker running gear combinations; the car was totaled in a 1/8 mile drag event when an oil line to one of the turbos burst, spraying lubricant on the rear wheels.

    • @kevinwong6588
      @kevinwong6588 ปีที่แล้ว

      Early '65s have white steering wheels, black later in the year.

  • @captaintoyota3171
    @captaintoyota3171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This channel should have million subs. Steve is an encyclopedia of old american cars. So much knowledge

  • @dannytomen5512
    @dannytomen5512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video brings back a lot of memories for me.
    My Father had the Studebaker dealership in Chatham, ON.
    Thank you Steve for all the info.

  • @PlatypusPerspective
    @PlatypusPerspective ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks very similar, including color (ours was a metallic brown), to the 1964 Cruiser our family had here in Australia, where Studebakers were assembled from Canadian CKD kits for the RHD market. Ours had the 259 Stude V8, but it was hard to convince Australian mechanics of that, so we had more than one instance where the car went in for service and a baffled mechanic couldn't get a part to fit. Pointing out once again that it was a Studebaker motor, usually got some argument that Studebakers use GM motors... Anyone who knew Studebakers could tell straight away from the characteristic exhaust sound that it had the Studebaker V8.

  • @christopherbero3388
    @christopherbero3388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good to see you back in the yard…🚙

  • @hamishdavidson3368
    @hamishdavidson3368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Ontario plant sent build kits RHD to Melbourne Australia from 62-68. Studebaker Cruisers were also purchased by the Victorian State Police Force.

  • @talfacprez
    @talfacprez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I worked at a used car lot and chose a 1966 Studebaker with a 283 V8 3 on the tree as my demo. I loved it!

  • @hugieflhr03
    @hugieflhr03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That steering linkage looks like a geometry project that went wrong!

    • @vernanderson4358
      @vernanderson4358 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Try getting your facts straight then return with apology.
      Too many Studebaker experts lacking needed knowledge to write about them.
      Leave the stuf baker story to the knowledgeable PLEASE.

    • @hugieflhr03
      @hugieflhr03 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ no apology necessary, I’ll standby my statement. They were good cars but that steering setup looks like an afterthought. The Willie’s Jeep was a better design and probably just as sketchy!

    • @vernanderson4358
      @vernanderson4358 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hugieflhr03 the steering setup was just as good as anything big 3 probably better.
      Two years running early sixties the Lark won the trans Canada rally. Why,?
      Because the chassis including the steering system complete was massively strong.
      Stude beat ALL foreign and domestics. Many of the USA compacts never even finished the race cuz they simply fell apart under the severe conditions.
      That cross member was massive strong supporting the engine as well.
      Studebaker kept zerk fittings on steering system and recommended regular greasing. But I well remember when others went to lifetime fittings. Like Chrysler compacts that after sixty thousand would wear out and literally fell off even while being driven. No you're very wrong on the false statement of geometry project gone wrong. It was a better system than big 3.

  • @alanblanes2876
    @alanblanes2876 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this, Steve. I was not aware that Studebaker had a dual master cylinder brake system. I thought only AMC and Cadillac had these among the domestics in 1964.

  • @Nowherenotime
    @Nowherenotime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hi Steve
    I worked at Dofasco ( now Arcelor Mittal Dofasco )in Hamilton and the Studebaker Plant was on the property . It was just an empty shell . Torn down in the early 2000s . Also on the property was the old CIL Paint Plant that probably supplied them and other car manufacturers in the Province. Paint and other solvents could be seen in basement sump pump holes leaching out . That building was our Trade School for apprentices for many years . Now it is gone and a State of the art Steel Caster sits over it . Fun Fact

    • @harnettsgarage
      @harnettsgarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was torn down in 2012, they let the Hamilton and Ontario chapters of the Studebaker clubs into the grounds with our cars while they were working on tearing out the interior of the building.

  • @bevierevans
    @bevierevans หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Steve, another vote in the form of a comment. I’ve been laser focused on your channel, ever since I had the epiphany that I should see if you had a TH-cam channel, I’m old and easily confused, lol. Your show Junk Yard Gold gave me the opportunity to learn so much that I had no clue about. Thank you sir!

  • @Liverpool270
    @Liverpool270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’ll never get tired of Steve’s encyclopaedic knowledge- I’m glad he’s on TH-cam- not that other platform

    • @danielcarroll5667
      @danielcarroll5667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahah ! "that other platform" even though I subscribe to it I always feel like they're plotting something evil , know what I mean ? Just some kinda creepy vibe from them.......

    • @davidgalea6113
      @davidgalea6113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielcarroll5667 at least you have the option of getting a subscription..I live outside of the USA they canceled my paid subscription.

    • @vernanderson4358
      @vernanderson4358 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His knowledge of Studebakers is greatly lacking. This vid contains too many errors to be acceptable. Like so many other " experts" on Studebaker history,cars and achievements,he would best to simply refrain from commenting and posting period.
      Not knowledgeable but
      Full of disinformation galore.
      Again sir apologize to real knowledgeable Studebaker people OR revise vid with correct facts.
      If the rest of his book is this incorrect on car issues,just glad I never put out cash-- waste of$$$.

  • @automatedelectronics6062
    @automatedelectronics6062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most of the 1964 U.S. Studebakers I've seen had Studebaker-made V-8's, including the Avanti's with R-1, 2, 3 & 4 V-8's. Maybe it was the R5 V-8 which had been increased in size from 289 to 304 cubic inches. They also had twin Paxton superchargers.
    Paxton was Andy Granitelli's company and he is the one who talked Studebaker into using his Paxton supercharger. That supercharger was the basis for the Vortech centrifugal, an improved unit designed by former Paxton engineer, Jim Middlebrook.
    One of Studebaker's most famous and successful semi-non-automotive ventures was Onan. Their power generators and gasoline engines are legendary. I remember working on Bobcats which had Onan engines in them and they had labels "a division of Studebaker".

  • @anibalbabilonia1867
    @anibalbabilonia1867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man that car still restorable! It would make a great sleeper!👌😎👍great history Steve!

    • @JeffDeWitt
      @JeffDeWitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Google the Plain Brown Wrapper.

  • @paullee2777
    @paullee2777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really enjoy when Steve is in the junkyard, with spring coming I look forward to seeing more.

  • @DScaglione.
    @DScaglione. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Funk & Wagnals of the American Automotive Industry!
    You’re the Man Steve!
    God Bless
    😎

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  • @jaswmclark
    @jaswmclark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mother was a case worker for the "Children's Aid Society" in Ontario and was paid milage, so was able to save up enough money to replace her car every three years. She had a '59 LARK with the flat head six and three on the tree, which was replaced by a '62 with the overhead valve engine and an automatic transmission which I used to do my drivers test in. My father thought the '59 was the better car. When it was announced that they were going to use Chevrolet engines my parents were among those that thought "If I am going to have a car with a chevy engine, it might as well be a chevy so they got a '65 Dodge instead.
    One benefit I got from the relationship with Mercedes-Benz and Studebaker was my first car. When I was 17 my father took me to our Studebaker dealer and pointed to a '59 Mercedes 190D and told me "See if you can start it." The dealer's mechanics did not know about diesels, so I bled the air out of the fuel system and when the dealer's daughter, who was in my high school class, came over to see what I was doing I pulled a hairpin out of her hair to replace a missing cotter pin. It took me abot 8 minutes to get the engine running. Dad told me that he had a bet with the dealer that if I could get the car started in 1/4 hour the car was mine. I did have to pay for new batteries and changing the ownership

  • @CarputingYT
    @CarputingYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for another video Steve! Have a great day

  • @SPH56
    @SPH56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like your enthusiams for Studebaker, yet Larks' debut was a '59 model. True, Studebaker ceased production in Dec '63, yet the Hamilton Plant in Canada was opened by Studebaker in 1947 producing automobiles and trucks. And as for using those wheels on Mopars...I would'nt - they may fit, but for aggresive diving habits, there are much better choices out there.

  • @ricklundin1154
    @ricklundin1154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome back!! The model car stuff was good but it's good to see you back home in a junkyard!

  • @saltzen961
    @saltzen961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    64 Studes still had the south bend engine . 65 was the first year for the chev 283 .

  • @Sorted7
    @Sorted7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I bloody love the geekyness of these vids! Keep them comin Steve!

  • @hoo-t
    @hoo-t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My parents helped me buy my first car in 1974 when I was 14 years old. It was a 1966 Studebaker Daytona 2 door Sport Sedan. Now, I suppose its possible the transmission could have been swapped out, but the car was only 8 years old at the time. It had a 283 and a 2 speed automatic in it.

    • @JeffDeWitt
      @JeffDeWitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That transmission probably WAS a three speed, but Studebaker designed the valve body so it would start in second gear. A lot of people think the transmissions are two speeds, but if you floor it or start out in low it will start in first gear.

  • @garyslentzii2796
    @garyslentzii2796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love Roadkills Junkyard Gold TV show Steve, it runs all day on Wednesday 3/16 on Motortrend for anyone wanting to see more of this.
    I hope you do more model videos when it's rainy outside or just for us.
    You Rock Mags! 💚✌🏼👍🏻🇺🇲

  • @josephschuster1494
    @josephschuster1494 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fascinating tales of a fascinating, innovative, and independent car/truck manufacturer!
    Imagine what might have been today had Studebaker weathered the economic storms! 🚗 🛻

  • @maxdelozier5752
    @maxdelozier5752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only thing I enjoy more than a good crawl is watching one ..keep em coming Steve makes the after work brew more enjoyable

  • @bradbates2339
    @bradbates2339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating story. I grew up to the west of Hamilton and it was known then as Steeltown but I hadn't heard before they made Studebakers for almost 20 years.

  • @theguythatcouldfly
    @theguythatcouldfly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet video! I love my 1961 Studebaker Lark convertible.

  • @mgmcd1
    @mgmcd1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve got all three of your 1001 books. Great stuff.

  • @MrMechanicandy
    @MrMechanicandy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Got a 59 silver hawk I been restoring for customer in Georgia and his partner that past over Covid illness recommended running a studebaker super charge motor from 64 model lark I believe it was very nice build .

  • @francisjaniewski5990
    @francisjaniewski5990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steve,love your views on the cars you scope out. I worked painting mail trucks in South Bend, In. In 1983,the old Studebaker building that then went to AMGENERAL. Its a almost done warehouse now with 3 employees.

  • @jamesthompson8008
    @jamesthompson8008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great info there to the Studebaker ending back story! I knew they had owned a few different companies, but didn't know just how widely diversified they were. I have a few of the old Gravelys, literature with them was how I knew about the Stude connection.
    Cool vid!

  • @randycaulkins3644
    @randycaulkins3644 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the insight. Worked with several ex-Studebaker guys at Bendix in S. Bend. Lotsa time out at the old Studebaker proving grounds via Bendix as well.

  • @johnclark3431
    @johnclark3431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I almost burn a hole in my screen every time I see you post a new video! Awesome, awesome stuff! It’s like my daily fix for my automotive knowledge cravings

  • @satisfyingcuriosities
    @satisfyingcuriosities 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love your content Steve! You're amazing ❤

  • @Sidewinder1999
    @Sidewinder1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating stuff as always Steve, keep it up.

  • @5610winston
    @5610winston 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    5:55 Studebaker used the 194 and 230 six-cylinder engines and the 283 V8, all sourced from McKinnon. All automatics were the Borg-Warner three-speed units, never Powerglides.

  • @jerrygold6771
    @jerrygold6771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Steve ,really enjoying your videos,very entertaining ,and full of cool facts.You probably don't remember me but we hung out at a few car shows in the Pasadena area many years ago ,I drove a powder blue '62 Valiant wagon at the time .

  • @morgenhoop
    @morgenhoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, Steve.

  • @alanmcentee9457
    @alanmcentee9457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not quite so fast on why the Canadian division closed. Studebaker had planned on building a large plant in Burlington Ontario, around 15 miles from the Hamilton plant. They even assembled a large parcel of land north of the Queen Elizabeth Way around the Guelph Line in the 1950s with plans on building a new, large assembly plant.
    My understanding is that the US management only had so much money to invest and they wanted to stress "other than auto manufacturing" businesses. Since Studebaker had gone from several car lines; President, Scotsman, Gold Hawk, Silver Hawk, and pickup, along with their several variations in the late 1950s, to just the Lark by 1965, there wasn't anything in the future plans. By 1965, the Lark was seven years old with nothing to even upgrade it. Their Hamilton plant was owned by Otis Elevator and they wanted it back.
    (There is some dispute that the Canadian Government owned the building. They subsidized its construction during the war and Otis Elevator ran the plant making canons. It sat empty after the war and when Studebaker came looking for a facility, here was a building already set up. As with any industry looking to locate in Canada, the government helped them find a home. I understand that they assembled pickups in the plant until they converted over to cars. However, a plant in the center of a city with limited expansion room is a poor place to locate an auto manufacturing facility. Only if it could be fed with preassembled components such as engines and transmissions could it work. But there were no major highways or room for rail. Hence the plans to build a new plant in Burlington. )
    The clincher was that the UAW was trying to unionize the Hamilton plant. The South Bend plant was the most costly in terms of employee costs and the lowest labor efficiency of all the American auto manufacturers. There are stories of all the employees running to the windows just to watch a freight train roll by. Studebaker always signed a contract with the UAW quickly because they knew a strike would shut down the company. They never waited to see what the big three signed for.
    As a caveat, I have lived in both Hamilton and just outside of South Bend. There were always stories from former employees

  • @ruanecrummett9261
    @ruanecrummett9261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Steve it was nice to meet you Sunday at the show your a wealth of knowledge is amazing 😀

  • @joebarber4030
    @joebarber4030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Steve love the videos, but 64’s were powered by studebaker v8’s The chevy power came in 65 and 66 from the Canada plant which had been building cars for many years already.

    • @robertwatkins364
      @robertwatkins364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My 1964 Studebaker Commander had a Studebaker 259 V8, with a three speed, and overdrive. The thing that really confused the troops, was the hill holder! They just couldn't figure that one out.

  • @justralphajerseyguystuckin3671
    @justralphajerseyguystuckin3671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very Cool, I did not know this info...thanks for sharing it with us Steve :-)

  • @AnthonyBarthelCurbside
    @AnthonyBarthelCurbside 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I believe Francis Bavier, who portrayed Aunt Bea on”the Andy Griffith Show,” had a Canadian Studebaker that she was driven around in until her death in the 1989.

    • @scottinWV
      @scottinWV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've heard she was a big time car enthusiast.

    • @JeffDeWitt
      @JeffDeWitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She did, she was also the first actor to drive their own car in a TV show, and it was her Studebaker. The car still exists, it's in Denton, NC.

  • @tony-ps4qw
    @tony-ps4qw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve is a walking encyclopedia of automotive history-great and very interesting information, and history!

  • @curtaustin8119
    @curtaustin8119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My first car. That is, my father bought me one to use in high school (ca: 1969) and college. I foolishly bought a '63 two years ago. Had to find a better six for it, and weld in a new floor. The '63's had the old-school grill, not the "Ford Fairlane" sort of grill in the '64. Kinda cool.

  • @nsidor1234
    @nsidor1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Steve, that's the most concise assessment of 'Studies' demise I've heard to date.
    Dude you are truly a walking encyclopedia of autodom...👍

  • @flyonwall360
    @flyonwall360 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, brings back memories as a kid riding in dad's 62 Lark.

  • @danaglass5394
    @danaglass5394 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dana "60" Glass. Hope your are doing well. Great stuff. Studebaker built great cars, especially the Avanti, Hawks, Golden Hawks among others. Shame they got out of car production.

  • @unclemarksdiyauto
    @unclemarksdiyauto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lots of those cars in the bushes here in Canada. I didn’t realize Studebaker lived one past their car making days! Thanks Steve.

    • @davidthehillbilly7995
      @davidthehillbilly7995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My doctor with the same name didn't know they even existed. He's only 50....

    • @unclemarksdiyauto
      @unclemarksdiyauto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidthehillbilly7995 Interesting for sure!

  • @briansmith1042
    @briansmith1042 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing mostly the car.

  • @raymondclark1785
    @raymondclark1785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I worked for a Chevy dealer a co-worker had a Stude with the 194. We replaced a truck 292 and he had the old block bored out and into his Stude. It did well at the drag strip and no one noticed the bigger pushrod pan on the side :)
    Later I worked for a foreign car dealer that had been a Studebaker dealer and still had/used the Champ service pickup

  • @glenbo2464
    @glenbo2464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a maroon 66 Cruiser 4 door as a teen. It had a 283 Chevrolet V8 with a 2 BBL carb. That old thing ripped down the road but the steering box was shot. lol Also had a 59 Lark 4 door with a 259v8 and a 60 Lark wagon with a 259 also. They all ran great !

  • @haworthlowell805
    @haworthlowell805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was back home in Indiana a few years ago and saw a Lark on a trailer. Dog dish hubcaps, plain paint, very camo, had traction bars and skicks on thd back. Happen to run into the owner & asked what was under the hood. 283 with a Paxtin supercharger similar to the Avanti power plant. Can you say sleeper?!

  • @wcmarsh5692
    @wcmarsh5692 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First car was a Lark. Mint condition. Bought from a little old lady who only drove it on Sunday. True story. $200. Drove many more. Great reliable solid safe cars. Had to switch to Volvo when Studs disappeared. Still driven em.

  • @pmafterdark
    @pmafterdark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some interesting facts about Studebaker I didn't know. Thanks Steve.

  • @davejones6130
    @davejones6130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff, Steve - Im a canadian and didnt know the company migrated north way back then. My Aunt drove a 1950’s black Studebaker well into the late 60’s; the one with the cool visor over the winshield. I still remember bouncing around in the back seat i dont think it had seatbelts!

    • @davidjohnmiller4849
      @davidjohnmiller4849 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s incorrect , the Studebaker plant in Hamilton Ontario built cars from 1947-66

  • @danweyant707
    @danweyant707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good one, thank you. Always intriguing how and why such a big company unwinds.

  • @johnwinkler6575
    @johnwinkler6575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I took my drivers Ed in a 64 Studebaker and I know for a fact it had a Studebaker engine. My great uncle bought it new sometime in the spring of 64 in Kokomo Indiana. That was a really neat car the front seats would lay down and make a bed into the backseat. I went on many a vacation in the car to Canada and Colorado and Wyoming it was a great little car.

  • @ervingoertzen7233
    @ervingoertzen7233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely correct . They weren’t a beaten company . Beancounters stuck to Refridgerators and shunt trucks and other business ventures

  • @tor2112
    @tor2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was fascinating! Thanks for sharing this…

  • @davidcompston401
    @davidcompston401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I owned a '64 Lark Daytona V8 2drHT in the mid-70's. It was Canadian built (as am I), and had a 259ci Studebaker V8 with 2bbl and single exhaust.
    I discovered that the 2bbl manifold was made from a 4bbl casting so, as I was working at an aircraft shop, I finished machining it to fit a 500cfm Carter Comp 4bbl carb. I also sawed off the single exhaust and 'fabricated' a dual using flexible exhaust pipe and a pair of Hush Thrush mufflers, dumping just ahead of the rear tires through some Thrush aluminum tips.
    302 Mustangs, and 327 Chevelles, were easy prey.
    The "Nash" seats were awesome for drive-ins.
    I still have the "STP" sticker that was wrapped around the oil cap/vent, all the emblems and hood ornament, a bunch of the dash rocker-switches, and the makeup drawer/mirror from the glove box, and half a box of home-made 57R bulbs (Not sure if all Studebakers had them, but mine was spec'd with red dash lights, so I created a 'cheat' to make my own out of clear 57 bulbs, as real 57Rs were expensive in '74.).

  • @nickhoffman5524
    @nickhoffman5524 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great information Steve!

  • @robertgallagher7734
    @robertgallagher7734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Had a '65 Stude with the 283 & auto. It was a 3 speed Borg Warner with a special bellhousing. Also, it started in second unless 1st was manually selected, kind of like a 1st gen Mustang.

    • @jeffhammers5677
      @jeffhammers5677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your Canadian Studebaker had a Borg Warner from Checker Motor Co.

  • @frugalterrier8124
    @frugalterrier8124 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first car was a 65 two door Daytona sedan, with the 194 six and an automatic. It was nine years old at the time, and had rusted so badly due to Montreal salt around the bottom of the windshield and cowl area that you could hear it creak stopping and starting. Only had it for a few months!

  • @tightwadtv3421
    @tightwadtv3421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd always heard that the differential on my 2-wheel Gravely tractor was made by Studebaker. You just confirmed it. Nerding out with everybody else.

    • @randymack2222
      @randymack2222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you inspect the engine on some of the Early Gravely's, you will find many parts resemble the single cylinder Harley Davidson's.

    • @fk4515
      @fk4515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gravely was acquired by Studebaker around 1960

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the great work Sir

  • @marvinmartian7281
    @marvinmartian7281 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always interesting Steve👍

  • @wnmech6495
    @wnmech6495 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video glad to see you back into the junkyard

  • @metalbob3335
    @metalbob3335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good episode love the steudebakers their supercharged V8 was a sight to see in an engine bay.

  • @marygarner5249
    @marygarner5249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your videos always so interesting 😁😁😁😁👍

  • @bjr2379
    @bjr2379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looks as though Grecian Formula is now caught up in the recent supply chain debacle...
    Forever young! 😁
    Another great video Steve!

  • @carthrasher8022
    @carthrasher8022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool account of the facts. Thanks Steve! Keep up the good work!

  • @henrytowne7463
    @henrytowne7463 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up with Studebakers purchased at Halicki's Studebaker dealership in Dunkirk NY. My parents had a 1956 Golden Hawk, mom had a 1961 Lark, then a 1963 Wagonaire, dad had a 1965 Daytona. Cars ahead of their time.... This dealership had connections with the original version Gone in 60 seconds...

  • @Burninhellscrootoob
    @Burninhellscrootoob 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had the exact same brown 65 stude 4d cruiser with manual 3 on the tree and the inline chevy 6

  • @CanadianClassicCarNut
    @CanadianClassicCarNut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Being a V8 car it'd also have a Dana 44 rear end and maybe Twin Traction

  • @bighank796
    @bighank796 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also I love your videos. I live in VT. There are some rusty gems sprinkled around

  • @LORISSABOOBMAN
    @LORISSABOOBMAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gravely goes way back i used one with a huge blade & other attachments also a PTO.

  • @louisflores2552
    @louisflores2552 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You never cease to amaze me..with your facts and history. Thanks for sharing your hard work and research. Always enjoy your videos. Keep up the great videos 😎

  • @CORVAIRWILD
    @CORVAIRWILD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The funny thing about ChevIacs, is the engine was NOT a Chevy, but a McKinnon industries under GM-Chevy license, just as you stated. When I was younger, and I would go to Canadian tire to get parts for my '67 Parisienne 2+2 RotBox, they would ask if the engine was red or blue. That's how we deciphered what a Pontiac was, or a Chevy-yak

    • @6286668
      @6286668 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They used to ask at the gas station in Pennsylvania, "Who dropped a Chev motor in your Pontiac??

  • @pl5624
    @pl5624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Studebaker engines continued past Dec 1963...the engine workers upstairs were still under contract for another 2-3 months.

  • @bfmcarparts
    @bfmcarparts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:46 McKinnon also produced the AC Delco spiral shock absorber for GM Canada and replacement shocks for other cars. They were painted a torquoise colour.

  • @tony66au
    @tony66au 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had a 61 Hawk in RHD for a while in the late 70's with from memory a 289 and it was an incredible car sadly stolen, For its time is was still a very capable and easy car to drive although parts became an issue and I was going to swap in a 351 Windsor/FMX auto I had laying around.
    We had CKD Studebaker and AMC cars sold in Aus for many many years and they thrived in this country for decades as reliable luxury cars very popular in Rural towns and regions and still pop up today.

    • @jayjaynella4539
      @jayjaynella4539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was told by a Ford lover that Studebaker had the first V8 powered police cars in Australia

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@jayjaynella4539Victoria police definitely used Studebaker V8 cars in the sixties until about 67. Some Vic policemen even raced an ex police car at Bathurst. The Bathurst 65 coverage in TH-cam goes into a bit of detail.
      However Vic Police also used Ford Customlines in the fifties. All V8 models as far as I know. Some fifties docos feature the Customlines.

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 ปีที่แล้ว

      A search on the tube for :
      NFSA Car Stealers
      Should show Victoria Police Ford Customline V8s from the fifties before they started using Studebaker V8s.

  • @mattryan4067
    @mattryan4067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these junkyard crawls and all his vast knowledge of cars ! It's kinda cool to see people fix up the Studebakers now ! My grandparents had a 289 Studebaker it did keep up with the traffic really well I remember a guy with a 67 camero with a 307 that thought was fast and got blown away but the 289 Studebaker running on 7 cylinders 😆

  • @matthewlee3239
    @matthewlee3239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey great job Steve, I really enjoy your channels, your a hoot to watch, "Go Hogs !!!"

  • @Oldcarnut63
    @Oldcarnut63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My 64 Daytona was made in south bend and the engine is a studebaker 259.

  • @dougackerman4182
    @dougackerman4182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video Steve

  • @scootergeorge7089
    @scootergeorge7089 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. Very informative. Ever wonder why Studebaker didn't wait till after the holidays to close South Bend? I mean, just in time for Christmas?

    • @SteveMagnante
      @SteveMagnante  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scootergeorge7089 Thanks for watching and writing. I agree that it was a cold move to shutter the South Bend Studebaker plant right at the holiday season. Likely it was necessary to terminate operations before the new year. Thanks again, Steve Magnante

    • @scootergeorge7089
      @scootergeorge7089 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SteveMagnante - I have your 1001 Mustang Facts book. Love it!

  • @flyoverstateresident2890
    @flyoverstateresident2890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 1980 I was was on route 202 north of Dayton Ohio and stopped to looked at a collection of Studebakers. While the owner was cleaning them he was talking about each of the vehicles. He had about 12 or 14 sitting there. Curious, I ask him only Studebakers and his response, with a smile, was that he was a Studebaker. He related that a branch of the family left the large farm to go to South Bend to build wagons. His side of the family stayed and continued on as prosperous farmers.

    • @fluffyzia
      @fluffyzia ปีที่แล้ว

      I know that's a true story

  • @blautens
    @blautens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are some excellent films about Studebaker. My father bought a 1963 Lark new (inline 6, 3 speed manual) and we had that car until 1978. I can remember it distinctly - and the floorboards rusting out to the point where he didn't let us kids in it until he fixed them, and considering the car never left south Florida, that doesn't really speak well of the sheetmetal. He donated the car to our church and last we heard it was doing dirt oval racing with a SBC in it.

  • @jayjaynella4539
    @jayjaynella4539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That car is in restorable condition. I had a 64 Commander like that but it rusted away. One of the best looking cars ever. All metal grills and bumpers.

  • @DontCryAboutIt
    @DontCryAboutIt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Going to have to revisit this one Steve, lots of old boys from the Hammer follow you. Studebaker wisely decided to exit the automobile business because they knew they were doomed to fail.

  • @Tommy_Mac
    @Tommy_Mac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first car was similar to this car. Mine was a 64 Challenger (yes, Stude. used the name first) 2 door, 6 cylinder (Stude.) engine, auto trans. The challenger had 2 headlights unlike this one, with 4. By the time I got it, the floors were patched together with stacked printing press plates (Dad was a Offset Lithographer), and the engine burned & leaked oil...badly. Good times!

  • @ipaddlemyowncanoe.7441
    @ipaddlemyowncanoe.7441 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was really good. Thank you very much for that information. I don't think there's anybody else that would explain it to the extent that you do. Thank you. 👍👍🙂🇨🇦🇨🇦