The Pride Loses Another Cub… What is Happening?
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- The Mbiri cubs are struggling! We are still investigating the causes and will keep you all updated. | The Virtual Safari #229
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At least the two Orpen Cubs look to be doing quite well. I pray from this little one to make it 🙏🏽
I thought that wasn’t her cubs, she only has a cub that go after her.
To me, it looks like the mother isn't producing much milk. I wish another female had given birth around the same time so the cubs could allo-suckle. I wonder if that would have made a difference. Still praying that this little one survives.
That mother lion looked over like, Can you keep it down! Lol
Watching from South Florida USA
Will any autopsies be done on the cubs just to determine there deaths are natural and not from some ingested made poison
Thank you for your explanation on how the young cub is doing! It is always hard to watch beautiful cats in the wild struggle against all odds. Maybe this precious cub can pull through and prosper as did his parents. Will be praying for the baby!♥️
I agree 💯%bro 🦁 👑
That litte cubs would have grown up to terrorise all other animals and eat their babies alive without a second thought ... Lions are mass murderers ... what did those other animals calfs ever do to Lions that they have to suffer the fate of being eaten alive by these monsters !!
@@Hero.Lone-Wolf well if u count the numbers, it would be 1 lion to 99 of those other animals calfs, they eat Grass for free and not even doing much effort to get it, while these beautiful lions are struggling to find food, not to mention that (these monsters) Lions* have manners and not allowing any other of their kind to take their place, when these idiot calfs eat free grasses like donkeys.
When there were 3 cubs, one was already very skinny, the last one has all the milk (unless she's not producing?) and is very skinny.
Either:
- all the cubs have contracted some sickness
- mum is not producing milk (or very tiny amounts); this could maybe also explain why they had to fight during feeding...
Poor babies.
This little cub looks like it should make it.It seems like it is keeping up with his mom.Lets see how it turns out.I wish them the best.
Unfortunately,this is a new mum who doesn't understand what she is doing.
Very sad to see.
Hope this little one survives.
Well done, and thank you.
Very nice guide.
Very compassionate.🤞
Thank you for sharing ❤❤❤
They say most lioness completely lose their entire 1st litter of cubs due to inexperience. I know we all hate to hear or see of cubs dying, but she’ll get mothering down with the next litter. She had to learn how to protect them & balance it with still being a productive member of the pride. I’m sure she’s not doing it on purpose.
Poor little scrappy cub. Such sadness to see this little one struggling. Come on Mbiris, you need to lavish some attention on your littlest pride member!
More than 50% lions have TB in KNP area …… and still non intervention policy 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Intervention takes money. On-going funding as well.
Oui il faudrait sauvé ces lions ils sont déjà menacer de disparition dans moins de 20 ans il n'y aura plus de lions à cause de la chasse massive et des fermes d'abattage pour les riches avide de cruauté si en plus ils ont une maladie c'est plutôt très inquiètent. Personnellement je ne voudrais pas vivre dans un monde sans lions 😢 ce n'est pas seulement juste des bêtes mais pour moi ce son des individus et de plus très intelligents, passionnant.
What is TB IN KNP
First time mother is always a struggle! Hope the little one survives
As I said on the last video, she is not feeding these babies enough. You stated the first cub died because of competition, and I disagreed. She didn’t roil over enough and give them time to feed. She has enough spots for 3 cubs without competition. This last cub appears too weak to suckle. A shame. Clearly malnourished.
That's exactly why he said that first cub died because of competition. The mother exposed only two teats on her one side. Three cubs were competing to suckle from two teats, isn't that competition? The weaker one got weaker as it couldn't outcompete it's siblings.
Indeed the Lionesses look good. The mother peacefully nurses the cub & I like the way she steadied this remaining cub with her paw as the drank water. Perhaps the cub missed a meal or two & will catch up & thrive?
This makes me think of a Cubs that wandered away from the den & was adopted by a caring Coalition that gave her meat, but naturally couldn't provide milk when she tried to suckle. The cub got separated when the Lions migrated so humans intervened to return the skinny cub to the den where her "rotund" brother waited. They attracted the Lioness back to the den with meat on a string.😂 The cublette was nursed, bathed & slept & hopefully she survived.
that cub was Buckett and she was not adopted by the males but followed her dad on their patrol, she was also too young for meat so survived on only water for 10 days until Brent with the property owners ok reunited her with her pride.
@@Lithaldatwin Thanks for that clarification. Do you know if Bucket survived after being separated from Mom for 10 days? Is she called Bucket because they collected her with a blanket a bucket?
So, so sad! Did they do autopsy’s on the other cubs??? I hope it isn’t white muscle disease!! It could be genetics or something entirely different. I hope the little cub make it and survives! Thank you for the update! You are so informative! I really appreciate your insights and compassion as a guide and letting the community know that the rangers are looking into the cause of the cubs deaths and that you all will keep us informed. I haven’t seen this type of informative communication in years! That’s not to say anyone did a bad job, it’s just to say others have a different way as to how they presented their information! I know it’s nature and there are rules in no interference, but, if we know what is causing these deaths, be it white muscle disease, genetics, or something entirely different then at least we can understand and recognize what is going on and we are all informed. Thank you once again and I look forward to the upcoming videos.💕💕💕💕💕
Autopsy? I don't think they do that. I think they just let nature take it's course
Autopsy 😂😂😂 you know this is the wilds of Africa right?
Some westerners are so clueless 😂😂😂
Seeing that little precious cub, just broke my heart....The cub I pray makes it.....I can just imagine the sad feelings the Rangers are experiencing....& TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THE CUBS HAVE DIED....PRAYING!!!;
Oh man, my heart hurts for them, why can’t help them so that they can live how beautiful these animals are .
I saw this young mother feeding the cubs while their were 3 of them.
She seemed to be lying so that they had to fight each other to feed.
It seemed as though she knew she could only care for the strongest one.
I hope this cub makes it.
One was very skinny already, the last one has all the milk (unless she's not producing?) and is very skinny. Maybe all the cubs have contracted some sickness.
I believe it is mentioned in the video that the cubs were left behind somewhere for 2 days. Without "intensive care" from vets, little cubs may deteriorate to the point in that time where they won't recover. Brings to mind the 6th Mapogo son in that Sand River pride who followed the Maps and Ottawa pride, and finally collapsed and died near a giraffe carcass they had been feeding on--just too weak even to take a bite anymore, and that was a subadult, not a little milk drinker. It might be that these Mbiri cubs have/had something in the genes.or something else we don't know about--maybe a necropsy of a dead sibling could tell the tale, if they could retrieve a carcass before it is consumed by other animals. The mother lioness seems to have been, in some previous images, unwilling to let all the cubs drink before only one was left alive. The lioness may herself be healthy but having issues with milk production.
U have a point there. Maybe the mom isn't producing enough milk.
Fluoride inhibits milk production.
@@fredericmaloof8597 dont think they were drinking fluoridated water?
Could there be an underlying issue, like some kind of illness? I remember when the Nkuhuma cubs had white muscle disease... Not saying that's what this is, but could it be something like that in your opinion?
Oh I remember that video, very decent theory as it's hard to pinpoint what's going on.
I instantly thought of white muscle disease.
@@jasoninmichigan6078 I thought the same.
Thanks for this information. I saw them and thought no way they’ll live. You’re the expert and I believe you.
Sad 😔 sure hope that remaining one survives 🙏
Yes, I feel very sad for the cubs.
It could be because of the genetics, Tintswalo males are procreating with their cousins, sisters, aunts, etc....right? So this could be the reason... To can have healthy cubs they needs to take over other pride and here to come other males...
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This litter was sired by Mbiri males still related to the pride, so i was thinking the same too, weaker genes
Very well said , thank you for the video. I know you guys feel for the cubs.
Thank you for the very well said video
God Bless all of you !!!
She looks like a young female looking at her nose. Is she the sister of the Tintswalo males?
At least it looks like the remaining cub had a good suckle now. If the female feeds him every day from now on he/she should survive, hopefully. The cubs must have been left on their own for a few days, and only the strongest one survived. That's nature, unfortunately.
When the cub was lay with mum, maybe it's just me, but I'm not sure if it was nursing or not as it didn't look as if it was actually actively sucking to me!?! It's mouth didn't seem to be moving or making any suckling action or noise!?! Again, probably just me.
Did you ever find out what happened to the 4th tintswalo male lion that went missing back in april?
Is he assumed dead?
I think I agree with you but hope for the best for the last little cub but maybe her milk is not enough we Evan as humans don’t always run smoothly,it seemed with only 3 one was always fighting to get some milk ,let’s hope the last little guy will make it ,thank you ❤️
Maybe the cubs have bad recessive genes as tintswalo males came from the same mbiri pride.
you know I was thinking same thing,, but I believe it goes on alot in lion prides ,, but Thank you for comment!!
Thanks again for an insightful video. Are lions born with internal parasites like domestic puppies, which could be a reason for their wasting away? (cheers for the upload)
I am thinking that as well as first time mother not very experienced, could be that the weak genes in these cubs because of inbreeding. I think the father of the cubs is the Mbiri males which are related to these females as sisters aunties cousins, just my opinion. I hope the little one makes it
Yes Inbreeding
Well, fingers crossed for the little one.
Can you collect the cubs that died and were left behind now that the pride has moved out of the area and do autopsies so you know why they died?
Good input by safari care taker 👌🏻
Could the dying cubs have gotten worms or something similar that is making them skinny weak?
Do you think that there is a disease that is effecting the cubs?
Yes, it is frustrating to see the little cub so skinny. The lionesses look good, and I think you are right. Not all mums care for their cubs although lions are so affectionate and family oriented. What a pity. Poor cub.
I hope the cub makes it, I also hope that maybe the other lionesses can contribute in caring for the cub😔😔😔🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for sharing, very educative.
The last time I saw cubs wasting away like this was a few yrs ago on SafariLive (WildEarth) with the Nkuhuma pride. They had White Muscle Disease. I'm not saying that's the cause, just that it looks similar. I don't think it has anything to do with the mother,...lack of milk or because its her first litter. And being left for 2 days won't harm healthy cubs. It appears the cubs are wasting away despite feeding.
Agreed - I thought the same about the cub being left for 2 days. I've seen cubs lost for a week look much healthier than this cub. This cub looks like it has contracted a disease. Prayerfully, the cub is still alive.
does inbreeding has to do anything with it?
I remember working on a farm and one of the sheep was having a hard time feeding her twin babies the farmer had to feed them extra so maybe you can't see that her milk in her is just not making enough even though she is eating
Oh nooooooooo, he looked sickly. Wish he could be adopted to save him. Just wrong to view this vulnerable cub suffering. So sorry cubby, most of us we would want to help u. Unbelievable how the mom lioness lifted her head when the guild commenting on mothering. Lions have a tough life...
Would the other lactating lioness feed the ailing cub. I thought they shared care for each others,cubs
They may have the worms. Which would be consuming all of the vitamins an nutrients the cubs are getting from her milk.
I saw a vid where the pride got down to just one cub and the pride decided it wasn't worth the hassle to take care of just one cub and kind of forsaken him to die. That could be the deal here.
Could a necropsy be done on the cub if it dies?
Would you b able to do an autopsy?
Maybe that could give you some answers.
I hope 🙏 it's not that "FiV" or "white muscle" disease ☹️I know it's Nature. Sometimes it breaks Ur💔 & sometimes it makes Ur heart💕 soar‼️🙏🕊️🦁
any reason stops you from stepping in to save the cub by removing from pride and manual feed? thx
no they do not intervene with nature. it's a unwritten rule they do not interfere
It’s very tough to interfere with nature, you could upset pride dynamics, cub was seen two days ago looking a little bit stronger
Oh no! no good another cub suffering starvation it look so weak.if she is mamma Lioness first time may be not enough milk or she very stressed it would be good if another mother Lioness in the pride may help the little cub. need to be strong baby hope he made it
It could be that these cubs are sick and the mother is sensing it
Right around 4 minutes I noticed some blemishes around the mother's shoulder. Are those anything?
I dont think she isnt producing enough milk either. Her teets never look full of milk to me.
It definitely looks like maybe she's not making enough milk....so hard to see can't imagine how hard for you guys to see also
the only way that cub survives is if she/he is adopted by another female, more nurturing, more milk. its like amber eyes first litter she introduced them to the pride when they were just days old and left the cubs to their own defense while older cousins played them to death - amber eyes sat off to the side unmoved, uninvolved. human mothers do this too.
Do park rangers intervene; capture and provide medical care? You're a great narrator Sir, you genuinely care! Thank You for sharing!
Thank you! No we try not to intervene at all.
C'est dommage de ne pas pouvoir intervenir
So sad. I think is reasonable to think that it is poor attention lack from the mom due to lack of experience
Looks like the cub is not being brought to the kills. The older cubs' bellies are nice and round and little one is skinny.
This normal for lion fride, Mhangene lost 15 cubs 1n 1 year, but i hope last one survive
I pray with you Sir. 🙏We need these large breeds to survive.🦁🌎❤️
Nice lions
I thought that in another video you said it was jealousy?
May b an internal problem, she may b a gd parent but she has t find food, the right kind that would provide more healthy milk
leoas lindas sergipe brasil
En mi humilde opinión el otro cachorro debe haber estado enfermo esas aguas puercas o sin comida lo tienen flaco, que tristeza pero se ve muy mal !
Could they be being poisoned?
Run tests on the Cubs please this could easily be something so contagious
OMG Y IS SHE NOT TAKING CARE OF HER CUBS 😖😖
Go get him and help him out
Could it be white muscle?
Omg this is so sad what is happening. Please find out whats wrong. These poor little cubs please update us on this. This is not good
Maybe bacterial water
Just passing thur💯 question is there any way that y'all can step in to help or not..
if the cubs belong to the same mom and they die, then the moms milk is toxic from eating bad meat, snd the milk is not healthy for the cubs, and the mom might not be feeling that we either.
if the cubs do not belong to the same mom and they die, then they probably ate the same kill that was bad and the milk is killing the. cubs.
it could also be some kind of virus or bad bacterial infection.
they're not getting enough food. looks like the mother didn't fetch the cub for feeding after the kill.
Il faut à ces femelles du sang neuf , des nouveaux lions peut être,These females need new blood, new lions may be
The survival Rate for cubs are very very low ...That's lion Life...
It would make more sense that the lion mom doesn't give much attention because she knows they're dying and no point in dragging it out. But also, it could easily be some human-made bullshit. Hope it's not for views.
Little cub is not looking good. He looks very skinny.
🙏❤️
God bless the lioness mother, the remaining lion cub & her family. 🙏
Please help these poor lion cubs.
Maybe they had a decease?
These cubs look to skinny something is wrong with the lioness they need to remove her
I am heart broken..💔💔💔
The cub is in very bad shape. Might be type of sickness.Parasites?
White muscle disease???
Save him. Why not. Save his life.
poachers? Snares? Poison? Could any of these be the reason?
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GOD HELP THE CUBS . HELP THE LIONESS. they, NEED THE MILK FOR CUBS. I LOVE CUBS AND LIONESSES
It is a very great feeling seeing an African doing this documentary and not a white person.
Some disease in one the animals the lions killed or something in the water making the cubs sick? I wish the Rangers would tranquilize them give them some vet care, we owe them that coz humans have killed so many lions, we OWE them the vet care to help save the cubs
It wouldn't take much for a ranger to get off their lazy @ss and intervene give the cubs some quick vet care give them a booster shot of vitamins and antibiotics, there's plenty videos of rangers doing that for other lions so WHY NOT these ones??????? 😠😠😠
I don't care. I would take that cub and feed it until it's a little roly poly and then bring it back.
Oh Man what a shame, lions are extremely resilient the cub could turn it around!! prays out to cub and this Beautiful Pride!! Thank you for sharing ,, everyone be safe!!
It wouldn't surprise me if these cubs have White muscle disease
I agree. It sure looks that way. 😪
Didn't this happen to the Nkuhuma pride cubs a few years ago? James Hendry talked about it.
@@GM_- unfortunately yes
I hope and pray that the little one makes it. He sure has a good drive in him..God bless