How Do YOU Load Big Logs Without A Loader OR Team Of Horses
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ธ.ค. 2022
- The technique shown in this video is a variation of the technique in this video: • APEX 12,000 lb Winch 4... My Dad learned logging, mule-skinning and work-horsemanship in the 19teens from a hired farmhand who happened to be a man freed from slavery as a young boy in 1865. He was employed by my grandfather when my dad was a little boy having been born in 1909. My dad credits this man for teaching him most all he knew of horse handling, beginning from the time he was only 5 or 6 years old. Things were a bit different a hundred-plus years ago...for that I am thankful and I am proud to be the very fortunate beneficiary of some of the hard learned lessons passed on by my own dad. THIS log loading technique is one of those lessons.
I invited (bribed) the Missus to join me running the camera and was totally unprepared for the questions sprung upon me while loading the log. The not so eloquent answers I gave to her questions, though rudimentary and totally non-scientific in nature, are basically just what happens as a new growth ring is added to a tree each year. So like the world 'expanded' during Pangea, so does the bark of the tree to accept the growing girth. As usual, she puts me in a tough spot ...and in short order too during that part of the conversation.
Now I have several machines that could easily load this log, but one is at another location and one of the two here is currently broken down and the skidloader still needs some minor adjustments before it can go back to serious work in the woods. So that's the reason for the video today. I tried to move this with two Kubotas....a B3030 and an L3301....but both attempts ended in failure. The only answer was to get it loaded to the trailer to transport it to the sawmill....and yes, that's another video !!! #outdoors, #kubota, #sawmill - บันเทิง
My dad was born in 1918.Grandpa farmed with horses till he died in 1938 and Dad didn't get a tractor till he got a New Allis C in 1947. Grandma and dad's younger brother took care of the farm while dad spent the war years at Fort Knox,Ky as a Tech Sargent where he taught new recruits how to do field maintenance on tanks and half tracks.
Thanks for a good story of your family's military/farming heritage Charles. I always say us guys today don't really KNOW hardships like those generations. My dad was too young for WW1 being born in 1909 and 4F for WW2 because he was blinded in his right eye and lost half his thumb and index finger on his right hand when he was 7.
Sir u r legend
Hahahaha....now that's an unexpected comment Matthew. LOL Thanks for the visit and come back anytime.
Great way to get it done! Loved the exchange with the Mrs 😅
Hahahaha...she keeps me hopping that's for sure. I know there's a curve ball coming soon, I just never know when !! Thanks for the visit today.
Your misses sure can entertain us . Thanks for showing us new old ways of doing things . My dad could be quiet creative in ways to get things done. Use what you have and make it work they had no chose they had nothing. Great watching you again
Yes, she's pretty darn good in the kitchen too !! But that's another story. LOL. The old timers had their ways and it doesn't hurt to spread some of those learned lessons around a bit. Thanks Richard for the cool comment and compliment to the Missus.
I loved the commentary that the misses provided. Put a smile on my face. Great tutorial as well. More than one way to do a job and that worked very well and I could see putting that to work some day.
Most of the time we'll have a loader tractor with us when getting a quantity of trees, but this is a good technique to know for those times where there's just a few logs. Longer ramps and you can built two tiers of logs too....but that adds another level of concern with the logs shifting on the bottom row. Thanks for the kind words about the Missus and her 'take' on things.
Hi my friend. Love to see and hear when you have the Wife out with you. Her narration always puts a smile on my face and of course you trying to give her an answer. : ) Here in the Mountains we always put our mills down hill and then make a log ramp towards the uphill side. It makes the ramp almost level with the carriage . My Dad always did this. Makes it much easier, to roll the logs. Has always liked and shared. All my very best to you and yours.
Well Bobby, I'm glad you enjoy the Missus' questions and commentary. She's pretty good at putting me on the spot !! When I get the mill set up in the right spot, I'll have an I-beam bunk and load the logs to the bunk with the skid steer. We had the old circle mill set up out at the farm similar to what you described. Thanks for the visit this evening. Stay warm AND dry and have a great week my friend.
💥 That wife of yours, she’s a hoot! 😂 Great video!
*Keep on tractoring!*
Thanks Jon, she does light me up on occasion...usually with a burn of some kind. But it's all good though !! Thanks for the visit today with the kind comment about the Missus. Have a great day.
I like the banter between you and your misses! 🤣 Enjoyed the video my friend!
Hahaha...she keeps me on my toes. I don't know where the heck she comes up with the off the wall questions. I get blindsided quite a lot. I'm glad you enjoyed it a bit. Take care and Merry Christmas to you Zane !!
@@tractorman4461 Merry Christmas to you and your misses as well Wendell 🎅
I enjoy learning the secrets of the older generations' solutions to things like this. Where there's a will, there's always a way.
Well, the old timers didn't have the modern equipment we have today, but its still good to keep some of the old ways in use. A fella never knows when it may come in handy.
@tractorman4461 so true, I'm looking at how I can load a 26 to 28 8 foot pine log for milling into a countertop. I have to transport it in my pick up, as I can not mill it where it's at, and we'll I technically can't collect milling logs either, so I have to get creative.
@@markj284 An old buddy on a jobsite was given a 40' telephone pole. He came in the next day with a car rear end in the bed of his truck. No fooling...we muscled the pole enough to get the axle under it and he drilled all the way though the end of the pole and used all thread rod and locknuts to bolt a trailer hitch onto it. He strapped the pole to the axle and strung out trailer lights and added a red flag to it and off he went down the highway !! I couldn't believe it, but he made it all the way home without a problem. Now I wouldn't suggest that you try that...LOL but good luck Mark with your job.
Absolutely the best commentary ever!!
Thank you for the kind comment...The Missus does pretty good for me most all the time, or at least when I can get her outside to do it for me. LOL Did you get a chance to read the description box...I think you may find that interesting as well. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment Justin.
That was really cool! It always amazes me what all those guys could do back in the day. Nice job!
Yes, the old timers didn't have access to the modern tools and equipment we have today. They did things the hard way, but still got it done !! I should've paid better attention...dang it. Too late now, they are all gone. Now myself and the Much Older Brother are the old ones... It happened pretty quick too. Too quick.
@@tractorman4461 I always try to pay attention to the older guys. You learn some good tricks that's for sure!
It's good to have the misses available to question you about various things. She has a way of getting you to share additional knowledge that you probably weren't thinking about. She's a joy to listen to as she keeps your "wheels lined"!...lol
She shoots from the hip with her comments and questions, so I get put on the spot quite a lot !! I do like having her help with the camera too. It sure cuts down on starting and stopping. Recording stuff almost doubles the time to do the job. At least for me it does. Thanks for stopping in today with a complimentary comment for the Missus.
@@tractorman4461 Duct tape might help you from having to answer any questions she wants to spout off. LOL.
I remember doing that When I was young In the woods Using a hand come along. Thanks for the memories.
Whew...!! I just sweat a little bit thinking of using a come along. LOL You're welcome Tony and thank you for the comment.
I have a helper with a lot of the same comments lol.
I'm enjoying your videos alot
Well, I gotta hand it to the Missus. I can always count on her to spring a question on me that I'm not prepared for !! LOL You've got a good one too I assume. Btw, here's a different way to load a big one without a tractor...just a winch and snatch blocks: th-cam.com/video/3rN0dAbkF2w/w-d-xo.html There's more where that came from too. Thanks for watching and leaving a cool comment.
A little bit of maintenance on tractors keeps you out of trouble! Thanks for sharing.
I did a total rebuild on this engine about 8 years ago Jeff. It's a very good runner except for the throw out bearing is noisy. I should've replaced it too when I had it apart.
Yep' my dad was born in 1920. The extended family on my grandmother's side had a farm in Cedar Vale, Kansas and dad spent his growing up working horses and mules. When he was 12 (during the depression) he applied for a job at a commercial nursery. The test was to plow a straight furrow with a mule and single bottom plow. Dad was in line with a number of grown men (most with no farm experience but needing work). Each man would plow a few feet and then the nursery man would call "Next"! When he got to dad, he asked him if he was sure about doing the test. Dad grabbed the plow handles, whistled at the mule and off they went. The nurseryman watched dad go around the entire field (Gee! Haw!) with a furrow straight as an arrow. Dad got the job. Sorry for being long winded; you got me reminiscing Wendell!
What an awesome story Matt. Like I've said before...we as modern Americans have no real idea of sacrifice and hard work as compared to the generations just one and two before us. No problem with the reminiscing Matt....I like to knock the cobwebs loose ever now and then myself !!
Thank you kind sir for showing that and having the patience
Well Bob, it was the only easy way I had available to get this bigger log on the bedframe of the mill. Plus the Missus hadn't ever seen large logs loaded this way. So it only made sense to make a video for others at the same time.
I did enjoy it - boy, we are spoiled for sure T! I think I heard the missus say you could buy a bigger tractor...I think that's what I heard. LOL! All the best - enjoy dinner!
Hot doggies...I think that's what I heard too. I better check and see GP. Boy its good to see you from time to time. Speaking of time...it is a bit harder and harder to find enough of it anymore. Dinner was great by the way. Take care and stay well my friend.
A very enjoyable and informative video.
Thank you Wendell and The Missus.
She says you're welcome Rick. We are both glad to hear you enjoyed the video. It was fun to make....mainly because I had a camera-woman !!
Yes sir Mr Wendell, I sure did enjoy that!! Love hearing the history, and man you have that down to a science!! Dad sure instilled in you and the others some amazing knowledge and work ethic my friend!! That worked flawless!! Ahh, the Mrs, conned her with a promise of Chinese food 🤦🤦😂😂😂😂 She is a hoot, and keeps you in check I bet!! She was for ...pardon the brash..." Busting your cods" about the bark😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was eating lunch, and laughed out loud at that conversation!!! 😁😁😁 The little Massey sure puts like a kitten!! Looking fwd to seeing this unloaded and milled into my trailer boards 🤦🤦🤦😁😁😁😁 Thank you Mr Wendell for another fine video sir, looking fwd to what's next!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍😁😁😁
Most of the time we are on a job with a loader tractor, but not always. It's good to have this in your 'bag of tricks' when or if you need it !! Over the years we have put it to good use too. It always works better with a helper and a cant hook though. Yeah....she caught me off guard with the round of questioning once again. She like to put me on the spot...doe in headlights..well, maybe buck in headlights !! LOL Your trailer board pile is increasing in size with almost every firing of the little mill. LOL Thanks for not choking on your lunch..I'd have felt pretty bad about that. I did a total rebuild on this particular Massey may be 8 years ago now. But I didn't change out the throw out bearing and you can hear it rumble...LOL Whaddadummy huh !!
@@tractorman4461 I enjoyed every min of it Mr Wendell!! Man yeah she did, had you in her sights!! That little Massey is amazing, well we all have those moments 😁😁😁
Exactly why I am restoring my Case backhoe!
Ain't nothing like a good old Case hoe for work like this. My 580B is down at my daughters house and the 4500 Ford hoe that's here is broken down at the moment.
Great help and nice tractor.
Thanks Kirk for the visit today. I have a ton of similar videos and am editing a good sized oak loaded about the same way just this week. Enjoy your day and thanks for watching.
Kinda brings to mind the time I couldn’t.....I should say tried to load a big yellow birch on a trailer and it was so heavy it would pul the trailer sideways. Had to chain the trailer to a tree but that’s just me and my lack of experience. I’m like you.....I don’t like to many question while concentrating on the job at hand, but I must say your misses is inquisitive but she thought something was up when you said you didn’t have a tractor big enough. She probably figured you had an anointment to make but you were holding back......CHEERS
Good morning Gator. Good to hear from ya buddy. I wish we had some birch down here. I don't know anything about it at all. Yes, she is a bit inquisitive that's for sure. Sometimes too inquisitive and it gets me in trouble because she knows I can't lie worth a darn. I have several tractors big enough, its just they are either broke down, need maintenance or are not here !!
That is a great way to load heavy logs up onto a trailer, Interesting commentary again,.. you have a great 'sidekick' there,...now please Dear Lady don't take that the wrong way,.. you are making these videos just that much more fun
I'm laughing at myself here when she asked ( at the 8:26 mark ) " why is like, so pithy on the side,... " I started to laugh and said out loud ( nobody else around to have heard this of course )
" it's pithy on the thide, becauth I pithed on it " ... Good night folks ! LOL
Hahahahaha....good one Reg !! You got a laugh out of us both on that one. LOL And we have all these comedians are out of work, and here you are cracking jokes !! (-; Thank you for the funny retort.
@@tractorman4461 My day's complete then Wendell, I made somebody laugh! Haha!
Hello, Oll girl was busting your chops, u guys has my Oll lady and myself laughing, funny.
Hahahaha....thanks Troy for letting me know you both enjoyed the video. She keeps me on my toes...too much some time too !!
hi there i believe thats how the woodmizers manual get there logs in the mills . i think in a sawmill video about a week ago i was trying to explain the fast end of a log when loading from the log deck to the carriage , , also did a video on You know you have to buy it if ,, all your others loaders are broke may be a reason to buy another one . good show john
Yessir, the big end always rolls fast. A second guy blocking with a bar or cant hook lets the other end catch up. I like to start with the smaller end a bit ahead of the big end. Thanks for the input John....Take care way up there in the NorthEast !!
a great insight into past ways of getting the logs moved 😅and you're good lady's commentary/camera work is fantasic! i hope you enjoyed the chinese food. 😂really enjoying these video's and hopefully get some time to watch more over the holiday period. cheers tractorman.
Thank you Phil for such a sincere comment. It really helps me with her on the camera... she keeps me working and the camera just follows right along. I am glad you enjoy the videos. Comment anytime.
@@tractorman4461 haha you're welcome, at least you're doing what you know and love. with the missus cracking the whip it keep's you young and in check.
Thank you for the video, I enjoyed the story and the method of how to load a log without a loader, I enjoy these types of videos.
Mee 3!
Well Timothy, I am glad to know you enjoyed it my friend !! Thank YOU for watching.
That was a great video nice job loading the log big piece of lumber that will cut out some nice lumber thanks to the misses love her questions she helps all of us understand some things we don't know and wouldn't ask lol thanks for sharing take care hope you guys enjoyed the Chinese food
Thanks Tom. She does have her own particular 'spin' on the subjects for sure. I'm glad you guys enjoy her input.
The Missus was really interrogating you!!! Evidently, she has a lot of fun doing that. 😂😂😂
Once she get interested in something she likes to dig and dig until she's satisfied...or too cold whichever happens first. She does seem to enjoy my uneasiness answering some of the questions. LOL
Your wife does great on the commentary 👏
Hahahahaha...she DOES have her own way of looking at stuff. I enjoy it when she has the time to come out and play. Thanks for the compliment to her...I'll pass it on to the little lady for you.
Great video!!! I can only picture how my Great Grandfather got all the wood from the farm woods to his mill with an ol' H!!! Enough lumber to build 4 houses>>(one of those I live in now) AND no chainsaw's for him!!! I wish I was about 10 years older as he died when I was 1 at the age of 86!!!
You better believe it...those old timers knew the meaning a a true hard days work !! They just kept going and going....They had to to survive. My grandfather died when I was 11 and my other grandfather (mother's dad) died many years before I was born. Thanks Eric for the cool comment. One of these days, the Much Older Brother and myself will spin a good yarn about one of our great grandfathers and what he accomplished...I still can't believe the stuff he did by hand.
@@tractorman4461 That would also be a great video with your brother!!!
@@ericrice6748 Hahahaha....yes it would, but now a days, I think he'd say heck with this, go get the backhoe !! LOL
Hi tm44 I am a new subscriber I love your channel.keep up the good work.god bless you and your wife
Thank you for the kind words and I hope to see you drop in on other videos !! The Missus and I wish the same blessings for you and yours as well. Happy New Year.
That was quite interesting! I was puckering a bit when you were on the downhill side of that log blocking it up though. I never trust anything to hold anything. Thanks for sharing!
I am a bit wary too....those are three grade 70 chains, not the cheap box store galvanized coated chains. Their ratings with 3/8 links are somewhere over 6,000 pounds each iirc...but no matter, it's still a bit of a risk I agree. If something give way, it happens fast doesn't it..!!
@@tractorman4461 I know you know what you're doing. Be safe my friend
As a kid in the 1950"s I loaded logs in that fashion onto a truck for hauling to the mill. We used 14'-16' long by 5" to 7-8" dia. trees as "skid poles" (same as your ramps) to get the logs up to a higher level for a complete load. This metod of loading is called "cross hauling". The horse or team skidded the log(s) to the side of the truck, perpendicular to the inclined skid poles and a 1/4" high grade "rolling chain" was used (as in your fashion) for the rolling. However the free ends of the cross haul rolling chain was placed over the top end of the skid poles, in a fork or a cut notch and then hooked straight down to the bunks of the truck so that the rolling chain could be repeatedly used to load the next log.
After skidding the log to the loading position the draft horse/team were driven to the other side of the truck and backed in tightly to the load and a pull chain from the horse was cast over the truck (or partial load) to hitch to the rollling chain and then the horse given the 'giddy-up' to roll the log up and onto the adjacent edge of the truck's bunks. Cant hooks were used to roll loaded logs across the truck to achieve a full load. After first layer of logs were rolled up onto the truck the skid poles were then raised up onto that first layer and continued in this fashion until you had 3-4 layers of logs for a completed load.
Usually the first loaded log was 'blocked' (similar to what you did, except the blocking was on the truck's bunks and a 4-8" rock) so that a 20"-28" tall stake could be placed in a 'stake pocket/hoop' (built onto the end of the bunks) to achieve a full load on the loading side. The skid pole would at some time be placed onto the top of the stakes or the highest log as the height of the load grew upwards.
These were small loads, on a single rear axle 2 ton truck. A "big logger" hauling larger loads might have a single axle pole trailer for higher production.
Thanks for an excellent description of hauling multiple tiers of logs. I totally forgot the term 'skid poles'. That's what dad called them, not ramps like I did. I can tell you've actually used horses for this. I have not, but we have loaded multiple tiers very similar to what you described with the tractor. We usually lay 4x4's crossways of the deck and back on the farm, and used cables. The 4x4's allowed us to slip the cables out from under the first tier then throw them over the top and rehook for loading the second tier, moving the long skid poles (thank you) up to the edge of the first tier. Back then what we hauled on was a 16' Mack rear end/frame built into a flat bed for hauling hay and also logs. Thanks for a much more detailed first hand description of the technique. Awesome comment !! This is one of the coolest things about TH-cam...
Good evening Sir, OUTSTANDING written life video Sir, The Nice Lady Is Back 🌹🌹👌👍😇 We do not have a tractor big enough 🤣👍 Hope that Chinees Meal Was Nice 😋👍👌Cheers
Thank you mon ami. It was similar to some earlier reminiscing I put in another description, but the facts all remain the same. I coaxed her out into the cold to help Dave !! LOL The old Chinese food trick worked again... And YES, we both enjoyed an awesome dinner. LOL
@@tractorman4461 That is so OUTSTANDING, I hope that you sincerely realise how lucky you are mon ami having your Lovely Lady With You 👍😇🌹👌 Cheers 🍻🍻
chains are a wonderful thing, pretty much how I have done stuff like this myself. the old guys from way back passed on a lot of helpful tips and tricks. I never thought that wedge would have held that log like that. I would have chained it up to the trailer with another chain or ratchet strap. I learned something for sure.
I was thinking the same thing Dave.
I did notice he didn't stand on the downhill side of the log when it was just sitting on blocks. 😎😎
As long as its big enough that the diameter of the log won't over roll it, you're golden. But its good to test it a bit as the chain is loosening. You're right about the old timers....a lot of their know how died with 'em because young 'uns like me were too hard headed to pay attention !! I'm glad some of it wore off on me though. Thank you Dave for the cool comment my friend. Take care and stay warm tonight !!
@@tractorman4461 30 degrees outside and thr furnace just came on again.
All things considered we are doing fine and I hope you keep on doing well. 😁😎
@@OldSneelock lol ha ha
@@tractorman4461 throwing wood in the fire right now at 1030 pm its cold out there!
hi friend how are you amazing story and amazing job wow i wish you and family merry christmas and happy new year take care greetings from the netherlands
Thank you. Every time I recall a story from my dad, I wish I would have paid more attention to many other stories as well. We are all quite well fortunately as I hope the same is true for you. Stay warm this holiday season and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well !!
oh man im love working in the woods im 20 years old but honestly wish i was born in atleast 70s or earlier i love the old school way i actually bought my first tractor last fall and its a 1961-1967? soviet made belarus mtz 50 its a awesome little tractor about 50ish hp 3pt hitch 2wd diff locks starts with a ponymotor has suposedly 9 gears im not too sure about that but my granpa has one similar to that his is a mtz 80 little bigger engine and frame same trans and rear axle he used the exact tractor in logging and when they went to modern machines old ones went on a auction and he bought it but back then he converted it to be 4wd and had a hydraulic grapple on the back and his one is the one that influenced me buying one too and i love it i plan on getting into logging this winter with the same style of grapple and that tractor of mine and a chainsaw really hoping to get it going and that it would work out and i actually quit my job operating a excavator just to work with my hands and help out my granpa in the forest so that i can learn from the best but anyways be safe and have fun and god bless you also greetings from estonia in europe
I have another fella from Estonia that comments all the time too. Welcome Karl, I hope to see you around. I have tons of videos about wood processing, old tractors and even some with home butchering. I recently traded a Belarus 3045 four wheel drive with a loader. Those are good tractors and not built too far from you. Good luck with your change in direction. Many years from now you will realize how awesome it will have been to have had the chance to spend so much time with your Grandpa. Good luck again and I hope to hear how things are going for you in the future.
I love your videos man! I’m learning so much and the way you interact with the camera and the viewer it’s like you’ve been doing it your whole life! Videos are MUCH better than most! Do you do all your editing yourself or what?
Well dang….. I sure didn’t expect a comment as supportive as this one !! Thank you for the kind words. I do all the editing and camera work except for when the Missus comes out to give her input on things. Editing is the hard part. Approx four hours editing an hour and a half of footage to get 10 to 12 minute videos.
Chain placement for an even roll is my takeaway learning for the day. My dad always liked seeding grain with the horses because you could see if a drill was plugged. I often see the Amish farms in Ontario are on the crop land and have crop in the ground before the big modern farms. Tires on modern farm equipment have come a long way to minimize compaction but If there is a wet spring horses for small scale farming works.
Yes, and a 'V' instead of a single chain and a helper with a pry bar or cant hook to correct the angle if necessary. A single chain will allow the log to pivot on the ramps and that's not good. There ARE benefits to horses in the small farm category I guess. I never really thought about that before.
I've heard a few local stories about old timers that grew up working with horses. Seems some of them had a hard time adapting to new technology. When things when bad, muscle memory took over and they'd be pulling on the steering wheel and yelling "WHOA".
Hahahaha....I'm sure that has happened more than they would admit to too !! LOL When I was a kid riding in the old Ford truck, dad would jokingly give a long drawn out whooooooooaaaa while rolling to a stop sometimes.
whole lotta bark between us and australia!
Hahahahaha....yes, I guess there is !! Thanks Patrick for watching today's video.
It would be cool to sit down with the old hired hand and listen to his stories, not just for work ideas, just life in general.
I cannot imagine what stories would come to mind from a fellow that lived through those times. Dad always talked about him with respect though. I should've asked more questions. I remember when a cousin kept horses boarded out there. She had a horse that would lay down for no reason while riding. Dad took a glass gallon syrup jug full of cold water right out of the 33* milk can cooler. One of the few times I EVER saw him in a saddle he took off at a walk with that horse and when it went to lay down he cracked the jug of water over the crown of the horses head. The horse never laid down again. That too was a trick he accredited to the old hand.
Oh, tell the missus it was 26 degrees here this morning in SE Arizona......
Hahahaha...she'll shivver at just hearing that temperature. LOL
It was very exciting.. "Do I still get Chinese food " 😂 I am curious. what did you guys order? 😜
Egg rolls of course, the Missus had Empress chicken and special fried rice and I had black pepper shrimp and special fried rice. Some of my favorite. We get take out then sit in the park if the weather is nice or go home and build a fire if its cold. Then share the orders. She is soooo spoiled....ain't she...!!
@@tractorman4461 Well that sounds like good choices to me 😁 YUM.. 😋 and I like the plan you have with park or a warm fire at home with the Missus. Always enjoy your videos. Good stories , learn something new, and good fun. 😉🤌🪵🪓
@@jasm817 For me, its a win-win situation either way. We don't make it to the parks most of the winter, but occasionally it's fun to see the snow and or ice all over the place. But the reason being...the park we go to is my old home place, grand fathers farm, that the city bought and annexed back in the 80's. They built ball diamonds and soccer goals in all our fields and around our lake they put in playgrounds and pavilions.
My grandfather use to load logs like this with mules in the 1950s I think. I'm still hoping he can teach me some stuff about logging, I'm 25 and he is in his early 80s now though. My great grandfather use to log and farm with horses and mules in from what my grandfather tells me.
My dad did the same for many years. He used a team of horses trained to voice commands. Percheron's. In the 50's he replaced the horses with me on a tractor puling backwards with the chains or cable hooked to the front of the tractor. Learn all you can about the old ways. It's good for you !!
Hey my friend! Great to see you sir. This is Mike from Dillon's Woodworks. We changed gears a bit. How have you been. Always enjoy your videos and stories. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
OMG !! Mike, how you, the wife and kids doing with the changes....?? I lost track when you moved kinda south. So good to hear from you. This your new youtube channel name ?
@@tractorman4461 Yes sir! We moved to Tennessee and changed the channel name since we closed our business. Adjusting to Tennessee has been great. Adjusting to living in a camper has been rough, but we are making it work. We are working on building our homestead here on our new farmland. It's a lot of work, but worth it. Some days are better than others, but we take it one day at a time. Hope you and the Mrs are doing well. Sure looks like you are doing well and happy. Great to see you.
@@practicallyIndependent Well that is so cool. There's nothing like doing it on your own !! I'm glad to hear you are all doing good and settling into a new life, which I am sure presents some unique challenges for you. I surely know it would for me !! I'll swing by and see what you guys got going on.
Well that's a good idea. It's almost like a pulley.
Actually, that is exactly what it is. It acts as its own pully so the weight of the pull is automatically cut in half. Good observation !!
She keeps you on your toes!
Hahahaha....oh, you have noooo idea !! LOL I like to have her on the camera when she can.
Great channel. How did you get the chains under the log in the first place?
If necessary I use a steel bar to gouge a little opening, but most of the time theres a place to slip the chain. On smaller logs, lay a couple feet of the two ends lengthways with the log with the remaining length at a 90 degree angle. Grab the cant hook and merely roll the log over the chains. All it takes is a quarter turn. Does that make sense Troy ? Thanks for the question and for watching as well !!
Thankz for the loadin tip! Waz the weather on her side for upgrade from fast food to Chinese food? What kinda food do you use to get the much older brother outa the barn? What are hiz favorite cookies from the Mrs?
Yes Mike, she got her upgrade to Chinese for the evening. She didn't have to ask too hard, its one of my favorites too. It doesn't take too much to coax the Much Older Brother out...just tell 'im I want to take a picture of one of his tractors and boom.....he's out the door. I was there just yesterday and he informed me that my lovely sister in law just completed her annual 1,000 Christmas cookie bake...He eats 'em all too. Little by little. No favorites. I think they patterned the 'Cookie Monster' after him. Of course I've been known to sneak a few to my vest pocket when he ain't looking.
Lol!
Man I love the old MH30, do you have the history of it Wendell, sure it is all in its original clothes that is missing in action but it looks so good, I see a bit of the decal is still left, nice show between you and Musses
I was returning to the shop after a service call in St Louis years ago and I found this sitting inside a chained in fence at a business just north of the St Louis Arch on Broadway street. I test drove it, agreed on a price and went back with the trailer. It needed wiring upgrade before being used, so I parked it under the lean-to until the next week and life goes on.....next week took ten years to get here. When I went to fire it up I found that a small leak in the roof had dripped for a number of years straight into the open exhaust pipe !! What luck.
I brought it into the shop, removed the engine and preceeded to do a total rebuild. All new internals, pistons, rings, wrist pins, rod and main bearings seals, valves and valve springs....the whole shebang !! That's why it purrs like a kitten, It's essentially a low hour engine because all I use it for is splitting wood and hauling wood and a little trailer work around the property.
Fires every time no matter the temperature. BUTTTT....I didn't replace the throw out bearing. That's the grumbling you hear. Dang it. I have to pull the motor to replace it easily, so until it fails completely, it's gonna just rattle !! Externally it is all original, except for a few sheet metal bolts. The wheel weights are the cast iron centers off a Massey Harris 44. Gives me a lot of added traction for pulling the bigger trailers of wood, like this one here: th-cam.com/video/jfeSblsADho/w-d-xo.html
I'm going to ask some questions that your wife can put to you in the next one.
Could you put a snatch block on the front of the tractor and have a shorter pull so you didn't have to block the load?
If the tractor won't handle the load with a snatch block could you put a short chain with grab hook on both ends so you could pull the tractor back then drop the grab hook on the single chain while you pull the tractor forward and rehook?
All kidding aside I'm happy to hear your wife on the video watching out for you.
We both know the hows and whys of todays questions. Having someone ask lets us tell people the answers to the questions they don't think to ask or are unwilling to raise on their own.
Lydia and I joke about how she always has one good suggestion on every project. Usually more than that, but at least one.
Big benefit that isn't often mentioned. She is there to make sure the camera is on and the battery doesn't go dead half way through the job. 😁😎
I'll give her your suggestions and see what happens...LOL Never know with her !! Lydia and my Missus have a lot in common...both have hard headed men AND they are not short on suggestions during a project. LOL Yes sir, the battery monitor is built in with a camera man....uhhhh...wo-man. Thanks Dave for watching and for the ideas for the Missus.
Say Wendell, why load with pull vehicle pulling backward. I noticed you said truck or tractor?
Visibility. Pulling backwards especially on a tractor gives the operator a birds eye view of the log and what's happening during the loading. Even in a truck its beneficial to pull backwards...the mirrors are so limiting to the field of vision. Sometimes you can use a series of snatch blocks and load with a winch on the trailer like this one here: th-cam.com/video/vx6a6a0OJmo/w-d-xo.html
da gusto oir como suena ese tractoreste tronco tambien pesas sus 1200libras
Hice una reconstrucción total del motor en este Massey hace unos 8 años. ¡También es un buen corredor!
She is right about that . They are always in the wrong place .
Yessir, we have 20 acres and can't get a wide open spot to play in !! Thanks for stopping by watching and leaving a comment.
Thiz weekend might be a good time for a fireside chat on how your father lasted so long?
One of these days Mike I'm gonna try and get the Missus to sit with me and try one of those 'live' deals for size. I wouldn't think too many people would stop in though.
Y'all might be surprised. I loved the chat as you chopped kinlin. Do you have y'all have a favorite dad story?
@@mikeadams2339I'm sure I do, but I'd have to think a while. We come up pretty rough out in the country. All we knew was work no matter what our ages...sisters and brothers alike. Taking care of chickens, barn work, milking, feeding hogs, butchering, gardening, field work, splitting and hauling wood to name a few chores and hand me down everything. LOL Of course we did play pinochle after supper on occasion...or sit around the table after supper and pick walnuts or hickory nut kernels when they came in. Late in the summer we'd shell all the popcorn out of the garden to store in 10 gallon milk cans in the cellar along with all the summers canning. One time we went to a horse show too. We didn't get to do a lot of socializing at all.
I was so naive about city people. Dad never let me go on a single field trip, instead I had to come home and get on a tractor or hay wagon. I didn't care anyway because I just imagined them getting on a bus and going to a field somewhere. Heck that ain't no fun, I went to the field virtually every day !! LOL. Yes, THAT naive. Dad didn't believe in goofing off when there was work to do anyway. I have a ton of stories for sure. (-;
I loved the wife naration and questioning.
But i have a feeling that some of the questions were for the benefit of the video?
Actually when I ask her to record for me she gets odd satisfaction from trying to put me on the spot with impromptu questioning. I never know what she's going to say or ask me on any of the videos. But I usually tell her don't ask me anything too hard while I'm working. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. When I'm making noise with a tractor or machine I hear whatever she says for the first time when I start the editing process. Unfortunately she speaks so low sometimes I have to delete some of the best things she says because a motor or saw is drowning out her narration. So to answer your question...no, nothing is staged. What you is what went down. Thanks for the question.
That's gold . Thanks mate.
Well the lady was putting you through your paces and if she reads that about where she's killing you she might just do that for you. For a moment when you do your explanation I thought you might be barking up the wrong tree! You definitely weren't going out in a limb because they've all been cut off. A little bit dry humor for you. You might put her on the channel more often
Ok, now that was punny....funny too, but punny for sure !! I like it. You got the Missus to grin with the comment. LOL She's got a pretty tight temperature window to do stuff outside....and I was outside the window at 56*. I had to bribe her with her choice of evening food !!
@@tractorman4461 yep I hope she enjoyed that Chinese food. The world's best Chinese restaurant that happened to be a buffet I guess covid closed it. But it was in your neck of the woods. Kind of on the other side of the forest of the St Louis metropolitan area. St Charles of St Peters Missouri I'm not sure. But it was right next to a harbor freight. That'd be a little bit of a drive but it would have been worth it if they were still open. Sometime back I screws and through there on my way to Indiana I think. Pulled in there hungry as could be and was so disappointed. The very first time my wife drove
A suburban and towed a vehicle . She was way out of her comfort zone. Other than jockeying a vehicle around a parking lot that wasn't a car, she'd never drove a truck. I bought a Transit bus and the short story is I didn't crawl underneath it but the shift linkage I got out of whack. So we put a strap or chain on it and I said dear you drive to suburban down the toll Pike pulling me and we're pulling into rest area 10 mi from here. It may have only been five miles but it might as well been a hundred. She did just fine. After that I couldn't keep her out of the suburban she drove it on the place. Had to go buy another truck. Since then she's been known to drive my super duty. It's amazing what somebody can do once I get out of the comfort zone. But you only gave up a meal I had to give up my suburban. Haha but I'm serious you ought to have your wife narrate if not participate in the video occasionally and she's comfortable with. It's quite entertaining. She said something I thought wow I was impressed that she knew it. I apologize for underestimating her. I just kind of took it that this is kind of your hobby and she did her thing. Kind of how it is in my household to a point. One other thing. I found a three-story pile of hardwood sawdust! Wouldn't that be great for making pellets for these wood pellet stoves? I really don't know. But the guy who runs the sawmill does it with his family they wear those hats and ride the wagons behind the horses. I respect anybody that can stand that strict to their beliefs and not causing harm to others. I just thought it might be an interesting opportunity. They obviously aren't using it fast enough to bed the horses
@@CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 I taught the Missus to drive a 4 speed in a '74 Pinto, 2300cc hatchback. She drives the '85 F250 as well as the Dodge 3500 dually when I need her to as well, but preferably on the interstate. That restaurant could possibly have been one of the Mongolian restaurants that are around this area. Big ol' buffet and dang, is it good stuff too !!
Its good to get the ladies out of their comfort zone. No reason to believe they can't do it...at least that's the way I look at it. Her mind is filled with little tidbits of information. A hoot to play trivia on her team when they have those fundraisers at school for the kids. I had another fella ask if I had a pelletizer to make firewood pellets out of the sawdust too. No, I don't but it'd be cool for sure.
We always bedded the dairy cattle down in the winter with a sawdust and straw mixture. The sawdust stretched the straw supply out for us. We only kept the dairy cattle in at night, but the beef cattle could roam in and out of the old barn at will.
@@tractorman4461 wow is there anything you haven't done? My uncle used to raise Angus but after becoming blind because of medical mistake at the age of 92 he gave it up. Now he live past 100 and he passed away. He was my aunt by blood second husband. They were only married about 40 years! And just a side bit of information. That mound of sawdust is south of Sedalia Missouri which I realized is 4 hours probably from you. The restaurant sounded great. My wife still says he promised me to teach me how to drive a stick shift. She's right I never did. Primarily because everything I've had has been automatic with rare exception for a number of years. I had little Mitsubishi mighty Max truck she just loved and that's where she wanted to learn to drive a stick. Oh I still have it it's just sitting back in the barn. Anyway you're right it's good for people get out of comfort zone once a while. Find out what they can do and then their comfort zone is extended to a broader plane! I just thought the pelletize operation on the sawdust would be something good for those Amish folks. After all they're like bees they're working hard for 9 months to put it away for winter. I've never met this guy but like I say anybody that can live that lifestyle and stick to the roots that impresses me. And their lives are very soundly Based on the Bible. Any case that's true for most of them nobody's perfect nor is any group perfect. By the way your hardwood as you may know sells well in metropolitan areas such as St Louis for good money. That may be an interesting piece of content for your channel if you wish. I know I'd watch it
You wont catch me standing on the downhill side of that log. Very dangerous......
Well, understanding the physics of the varying weights and shapes of logs and picking the right chock blocks for the angle of the ramps goes a long way to ensure against an accidental or even deadly crushing. Some of us guys in our 70's have been wrestling these things in the woods for 60 years or more. It may not look like it but I don't really take a lot of chances with safety. There's always the calculated risk to surviving the daily activity. Of course I may meet my maker today....but I certainly hope not.
alot of peole used horses years ago.be 4 tracors were made there was no power lifts back then it was alot faster 2 horses or a truck or a block and tackle 😊😊 OMG 9 1O 2O23
My dad loved to use horses or mules for loading because they were voice trained. I was loading logs with him by the time I was 11 or 12. Me on the tractor pulling backwards so I could see better what was going on with the log and to hear his commands better. We use the narrow front wheeled Massey Harris 101 Junior for loading and one of the bigger 44's would be on the log wagon. My dad started with a team at 5 years of age in 1914 or so. The old guy he was paired with by my grandfather was a freed slave employed on the farm as a muelskinner/teamster.