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We need African centred schools for our Black Boys. Trevor Phillips was right about separating Black Boys in certain classes - he just didn't realise how right he was, because he stood for London mayor as a Labour candidate - but Labour are the biggest anti-BM racists going!
Black people all over the world are creating mayhem wether its believing cultural marxist lies about racism so they do the elites job and remove white people from their home nations and destroy the west. The jews use black people as bullets against white people. Black people should be confined to africa
This is on us African and Afro Caribbean men. Many of us who are (biological) fathers keep abandoning the home, creating single parent homes left right and centre and then we turn around and blame the single mothers that we create en masse. WE have to do better as MEN and take care of our boys.
You are absolute correct but you need to bring your argument back to reality. The reality is that we have bred a culture of broken homes so this makes it hard for women to be wives and men to be husbands. You are expecting people stay together when they are not even capable of behaving as an organised unit. We are socialised to be baby mamas and baby daddies and to look up to criminals and dead beats. You cannot just put a band-aid on a gaping wound
We also need to stop perpetuating the false narrative of the absent black father when research consistently shows that black men are the most involved fathers of separate parent households. Women cheat at equal rates to men and in that respect are equally responsible for the dissolution of two parent households also. Lone parent households do not equate to absent fatherhood either. We need to focus on planned parenthood, laying strong foundations for parental relationships before the children arrive. The breakdown of the family unit, parental conflict and then difficulties in establishing contact is a real issue with the costs of family court in competition with child maintenance payments and cost of living, many fathers struggle to afford representation in the family courts and unfortunately relinquish responsibility. This shouldnt be the case, but we do need to ask why is contact being withhold in the first place.
@petermollo1908 Agree however, taking accountability is not a band aid it's the first step to improving one's situation. And unfortunately it starts with us men. Once we as men raise our standards collectively, the women will automatically follow because women always mirror and become a reflection of men. The fact that we have so many single mothers is a reflection of, yes, their poor choices in men, but also, and more importantly, a staggering amount of low functioning black males available to our women. So, even if a woman wants a good quality man, it's really slim pickings for her. We need to mass produce good quality men again, create a culture if excellent manhood and you will see many women raising their standards as well, as a result
Nope, a African British woman also cursed me out on Obodo Oyinbo site about a year ago when I stated that black boys have to be careful in school. She pretty much said it was a Windrush problem and that African boys were doing great. Like really? Wasn't it Caribbean blacks who fought for black British rights in the UK??? But she insulted me a black Caribbean woman with slave and European ancestors who built the UK... I will only help my Caribbean people and other western blacks
British Caribbean women are something else... I defo get it’s the position they may have been put into, but sometimes I wish they would engage their brains...Complete lack of foresight... The love of whiteness is crazy... The hair straitening, the IR relationships, the acceptance of IR relationships, and then wondering why they have no men to marry
Chris Kaba is a case in point. His family are more focused on portraying him as an innocent man who was victimised by police, when in fact he was using his car to ram police officers and potentially kill them at the point that he was shot. He was suspected of a shooting in a nightclub only days prior, which is why police were searching for his car in the first place. Historical injustices can't be used in bad faith to cover up the reality of what's happening out there on the streets. Unless there's a real attempt to stop this hideous social phenomenon, young black men/boys will continue to die at the hands of each other as well as the police.
@@handson-w8c That's the part that is most crushing, for me. These babies are coming into the world with the odds already stacked against them. It makes me so angry.
@@ibizawavey8630neither is it an ethnicity. It's a division. There's more genetic similarity between Africa and Europe than within Africa. Each one of us is personally accountable in this life.
This. Im East African and never seem to get on with other Africans especially those from the West ( Nigerians and Ghanaians) But I've had many positive experiences with Caribbeans. There's tooo many differences in all of us for us to be community. We treat each other differently based on our looks, how pretty we are, skin tones, religions, ethnicties the list goes on...
My Kings are 17 & 11, I tell them I love them everyday, we never go to bed on an argument. Of course we have bad days, I take them back to Africa when I can so they can connect with their roots, UGANDA AND JAMAICA, I wish every black boy could get on that plane and see where their parents come from, it grounds them somehow,they say we are distilled out of herbs,flowers fruits and roots. I tell my sons every action has a reaction and and you reap what you saw.🙏
Thank you for bringing attention to this! It’s an epidemic at this point. Us, black women are elevating and not seeing many of our male counterparts in these successful environments. It is so depressing. I care so much for our community!
I 100% agree families are failing these boys, especially African Caribbean families (talking as someone who is African Caribbean). The bar for parenting boys seems to be really low. I don't have children but just on observation of my parent's peers with sons, older friends with sons, etc, too many of them seem to be content with their sons sitting at home and not being productive, even when they are fully grown. The girls in these same families are not allowed to get away with this.
💯. I'm Caribbean heritage and witnessed myself how the boys and men were able to do the most wrong.....and crickets. But anyhow the daughter veered out of line buoy....you had to leave home before your parents got home from work lol. Two red lines back in the day......no babies and Whyte boyfriends strictly forbidden. Meanwhile the boys are getting up to all sorts of 💩, breeding like rats and bunny hopping all over the place. And as for the police, well that was their get out clause, because the Babylon had it in for them right?
@deadpresidentials in some cases it is but in others there's actually more coddling going on. I know of several males 40+ who are still at home with their mothers who are still providing for them like children. These cases aren't neglect.
Excessive coddling of men is neglect. It's neglecting to effectively rear us into the men we need to be. A lot of people say raising boys is easier bc they arent raising us at all. Just ignoring us or making us unprepared for reality by coddling which looks nice but it isnt. 9/10 those men you describe come from single parent backgrounds. Theres many things in this dynamic that women don't pick up on. No one respects those men and those men wish they werent like that deep down. Our family dynamics are completely backwards.
Good that you want to focus on emotional development. Unfortunately, I believe that too many Black youth and especially boys (but not exclusively) haven't learned how to handle emotional stress and put on a tough facade. So when they're under pressure their negative emotions often manifest in a way that's harmful to them and their community. More needs to be said about this where it pertains to black boys and it needs to come from men. So thank you.
@@Afrinaturality It's absolutely essential. I'd possibly argue that emotional development/intelligence/literacy is the most important skill to develop in youngsters and big folks.
I took my 17yr old to Africa, he was so free to be a child, playing bear feet, in the rain with his peers, I could see the joy in his eyes, embracing the culture, food, he had to catch the chicken before we slaughtered it for dinner, the price of his trainers didn't matter, he didn't have to watch his back 247. But we were in the country side, point am trying to make the boys his age in UK, are so busy trying to keep up appearances it's robbing them of their childhood. And not everyone can afford to go back home to Africa, Caribbean for a holiday but our children need to embrace and explore there culture!!!
Of course young black boys are growing up feeling the contempt and rejection all round and turning it against one another and themselves. Until Black men as a whole, figure out for themselves that community doesn’t exist without their involvement, the next generation doesn’t exist without their leadership, and leadership requires discipline and responsibility…we are doomed.
I actually work as a domestic violence caseworker but went to a training on child criminal exploitation which focused on how gangs recruited young boys to be drug runners. It explained how eventually these boys themselves become perpetrators when they were older as they recruited younger boys in the future. These gangs specifically target young people from broken families or boys who have parents who don't provide for them emotionally or financially. This really highlights how key the family structure is, a child that is taken care of at home won't even feel the need to go to anyone else for support apart from their parents so are less likely to fall victim to being recruited by these gangs. Often these boys feel like these gangs are the family that they have never had, that is until they realise how their gang members don't truly care about them in a way that a family member should. Just to add, I have been a silent viewer for a while, but I love your videos! It is important for us to see the harsh realities of our community so we can begin to make the necessary changes needed for our community to be prosperous in the future.
In addition some Mothers are left struggling when the daddy no longer partakes in the life of the child /dren he helped to create. We as Mums go to work to make a living to pay rent or mortgage, to buy food, clothing etc. It’s tough without the family network of care. Some of us are fortunate to be in supportive churches and have neighbours who look out to support. I remember again the African proverb- “It takes a village…..”
@@melhollett7437supportive churches and neighbours is sadly largely a thing of the past now. We have now adopted the culture here and now live more isolated lives than ever before where connections are shallow, interactions are brief and momentary and the general attitude is "I don't want to interfere in another person's life".. Successful black people need to step up now and volunteer with helping to look after these kids..they need a place to go after school where they are constantly seeing and interacting with positive role models (easier said than done I know).. The culture of crying racism and victimhood has to be dialed down..we are pretty much the only community that hits the streets for the bottom of the barrel criminals among us..other ethnicities are secretly fed up of our whining about race all the time and they smile in our faces and nod along but behind, they want nothing to do with us... We need to start giving our youth a message of hope..we tell them today that they're victims of the system so they throw their hands up and blame every failure in their lives on the system never actually being introspective to say what can I do better and how can I change the things I can control about my life
Sadly I know lots black lads from good families, with good grades and a possible good future career... CHOOSE TO SELL DRUGS... They truly feel it's what they are meant to do... like they are brainwashed with nonsense about how blacks should be, by other blacks....
This channel is so important for our community, providing an honest space for real conversations that we desperately need. The analysis of why Black people are underperforming in society is crucial, but these conversations shouldn’t begin and end here. They need to be internalized in Black homes and spoken about more often. Change starts with awareness, and this platform is doing vital work to spark that.
The new Bashy album is fantastic, definitely worth a listen. Another great video Ely. Crime statistics are very important to dig deeper into and to evaluate underlying disparities
As a Scottish white woman, I really appreciate your honest and intelligent explanations which have helped me to understand your situation more clearly. I live in a quiet, low-crime area so this is rather difficult for me to comprehend, and I really need to be educated on this subject. You make no excuses, and I really respect you for that. Keep up the good work, and thank you.
@@chocolatesugar4434 yes. But if a man really does just get up and leave you and his kid, you shouldn't have let that man lay up with you. A woman is supposed to vet men, they are responsible for the type of people that will come into existence. I don't like blaming women because I can see many men are disturbed and afflicted with lethargy and low self esteem. But this is just a fact, that most other mammals adhere to
@@chocolatesugar4434 Indeed, I subscribe to the Thomas Sowell school of thought that fathers have THE single greatest influence on how young black boys/men turn out. Granted, his point of reference is America, but I think his conclusions can be applied to the black experience across the West, especially Britain, due to the similarities in culture. Many people will disagree with him on a lot of things, but on this he's spot-on. Beyond just having their fathers in their lives, black boys NEED to have them in the household living with them 24/7. In this regards, I believe marriage plays an incredibly important role. It creates a platform for fathers to model love, stability and responsibility to young men. I know I may have painted a picture that many will argue is not practicable in this time for most due their unique circumstances, or worse due to the prevalent culture in the modern world, but the point here is that we adults/parents/parents-to-be, should be taking intentional steps for the sake of our children. I believe that's the aim of Ely's channel as well, and the reason why I like listening to him.
BM and BW both need to heal and look to one another to start building and rising up. Unfortunately what ever affect BM affects BW and visa versa they are all connected.
MARCUS GARVEY wrote, a people without knowledge of their past history ,origin,and culture is like a tree without roots. Trees that are not firmly rooted in rich, fertile soil do not grow, do not bear fruit, they cannot withstand strong wind, or bear heavy loads, this is our black boys in GREAT BRITAIN!!!😢
I used hate my dad for being absent. Then I was diagnosed with ADHD in my late 20s after he died, I did some digging and found out he had a lot of the same issues growing up as me. Only difference he was sent away to boarding school where he was probably sexually abused by staff so I don’t really blame him anymore. If he’d been white there’s a better chance he’d have gotten the support he needed at home. Racism wasn’t the entire problem, but it certainly contributed.
So important to remember this, and I should emphasise this more. Parents generally try and do the best they can, but they too experienced much by way of trauma, neglect, etc. It's why people speak of intergenerational trauma, and we can see it in our very genetics and epigenetics.
I'm no expert on this, but here's what I think might help: • Role models. Seek out those who succeeded and try to get them "on the ground" in contexts where youth might be receptive to learning from them. Maybe at schools or concerts or other social venues. • Police involvement. I know this will be controversial, but if you look at successes in, e.g. Las Vegas, it seems that police were members of the local community and could identify risks early and prevent them before they escalated. Police are people - if they are living in the community then they have "skin in the game" and are incentivised to promote social order and harmony. • Play to your strengths. I think this is true for group as for individuals. If you look at diasporas throughout history, e.g. Indians and Chinese in America, Ashkenazi Jews in Eastern Europe, etc. they often specialised in certain professions or trades, shared the knowledge in their communities. In this way they developed a kind of pride and recognition. I think African Americans had big successes in sport, fashion, and music. I think Black British can definitely see success in data science, software development, music, perhaps other areas.
As a British black Caribbean man I often despair at the state of our community. We are over represented in the crime stats which is not only embarrassing and fuels racism, it is also tragic because members of our own community are often the victims (all victims matter obviously!). We are near the bottom of the economic pile and near the bottom with education. Yes there is racism in UK society but I strongly believe that what is holding us back the most is our own community and culture. I grew up in a household with married parents and they instilled strong values into myself and siblings. They encouraged us to do well at school and they encouraged me to follow my dream to become an architect which I did successfully. I'm not special, I am not super intelligent. I am just an average guy who pulled my socks up and got stuck in. So I made it so to speak but why do so many of my fellow black males end up in a life of crime and other degeneracy? The family has to be something to do with it and as many people have observed, Caribbean and Black Americans especially seem to have decided that fathers are not necessary. What is interesting is that many in the community do find this embarrassing. There was an advert for pasta sauce a few months ago which depicted a wedding day, the black bride had just her mum by her side and the white groom had both parents. Many people found this ad racist but I also saw some comments claiming that getting married was 'respectability politics' and some kind of alternative family configuration with no dad but lot's of aunties and uncles who may not be biological relatives is more 'authentically black'. I have heard this is a hangover from slavery where men were encouraged to have as many kids as possible with multiple women. I simply do not understand why we think families in which fathers are not full time members (or there at all) is anything but sub optimal. Why do we think it's ok for fathers to have kids with multiple different women who they see at best a day or two a week? Why can't we see that this is leading to bad outcomes? Why are women so keen to bring up children alone? Why does BLM US think that the nuclear family is anti-black? If I was straight I would not dream of having a child with somebody who was not a long term partner. It is clear that there is an element of the black community in which being a criminal is glamorised. You see this in the fashions, kids walking around in all black, hood on and bum hanging out. I feel so sorry for these kids I see around London. I almost want to give them a slap and say 'pull your trousers up'. I have no idea how to fix our community but the first step has to be acknowledging we have a problem and realising that only we can solve it.
I agree with everything you said and I've been saying the same thing for years. I can't believe that in 2024, Caribbeans in the UK are still having kids with no planning, no marriage or even a stable relationship. Two parents in the home supporting each other and raising children together provides the best outcomes. Your comments about criminality in the community also resonate; we need to bring back shame. Lastly, your point about the youth culture; the dress code, music, attitude. It's frankly embarrassing. We need to talk about this and acknowledge it publicly, but the majority of Caribbeans are not ready for this harsh reality. Most still prefer to blame everything on da Whyte man.
Members of our own community often being the victims is so real. Im a pretty blk gurl and hv been a target of 3nvy from many blk females i don't even know. The j3al0usy is insane I dont understand why some blk ppl do this. Why can't we just live in peace and harmony
@@Coco-uk9tv This. Idk if ur Caribbean but as an east african its refrshing to see a caribbean with this mindset Many caribbeans especially the youth born in the uk tend to hv these behaviours in comparison to african youth. We need to bring Jesus Christ back into the centre of our lives, too many blk ppl out here living godlessly which is sad to see bc its just a never ending cycle of destruction
Yep most blk ppl are in denial with alot of things and have a victim mentality from young Putting aside how we're treated by other races we also have os much to deal with within our own communities
Thank you so much for this video . I have been saying this for a long time but mainly based on my own experiences. But the stats a pretty damming. Keep up the good work brother . I will try to support you in anyway possible
Grew up in Dulwich. Didn't get on with the black community as a child, so moved to Devon at 19, in 2008. Never been around black people since, so this channel is eye opening. It appears nothing has changed since I left 16 years ago.
Everything you said is facts especially about the parents saying he was a good boy that just tells me the problem started at home mum and dad can’t control their son and don’t know what he does which means they don’t talk or do anything together when that happens the streets become the son’s parents
It's crazy yet funny... That yout was moving like the seed of Lucifer, disrupting the classroom and teachers tried to tell the parents... But they are "good boys". Ridiculous 😂 This is neglect.
This just reminds of everything Chris Kaba's family said about him before we all saw the videos of him sho oting into crowds of innocent people (no way justifying him being taken out, just making a point).
Enjoying your videos. It’s clear that you care and are trying to really get to grips with the cause of these issues. If you look at the data before you get to these datasets it’s not a surprise you get these figures. The higher proportion of exclusion whether that’s financial, social, educational etc will only lead to negative outcomes. The girls that are suffering are seemingly invisible because they are not committing the serious violence or presenting via drill videos etc. They are there though just like the boys and struggling with the same initial issues but facing different challenges. Don’t ignore that many of the parents of these young people have also struggled and been let down by the same systems. Looking to them to solve the issues with their children you are looking in the wrong place. The safety nets that should be there to catch our children that need it are outdated, uninformed and underfunded. They do not understand or cater for those that are most vulnerable. Unless you work directly with the young people being spoken about here the role that SEN plays in a huge percentage of their journeys is not being seen or understood. Even those that do often focus on other things that do not drive behaviour but are a result of it. Without context and nuance this is not an easy issue to grasp which is why you get all of the headlines about stop and search, taking away the knives, longer sentences, banning drill etc. if you understand what’s behind it all you will know that those measures will not provide anything other than a band-aid.
Another excellent video that needs to be shared and discussed. We have to stop burying our heads in the sand because its gone beyond too late. Patents saying their child was a good boy.....when they have been to custody several times, those parents need to accept the truth first to be able to address the problem. We know what we need to do but we just need to do it. Strong marriages and providing stability, safe home and environment. Discipline in the home from and early age. Books in the home, reading to your child, going to museums and libraries....providing cultural capital. Not allowing them to play on the estate all day, letting the estate raise your child or allowing youtube do so. Get them involved in football and a martial arts to give them confidence. Stop awarding bad behaviour or behaviour that disrespect teachers and people in authority. Be active in their school and go to parents evening. Another thing i am seeing is people wanting to say its not us its those over there. Not my country or island. I got news for you. It is. Its a cancer that has infected black boys in this country even when they come from good homes. These stats are also being used against us all to say we are no good and to push a far right wing agenda.
This is such important information and i thank you for it. However, one observation, the music was so distracting, it isn't necessary. So I couldn't finish watching even though I so wanted to as it was giving me a headache. But appreciated what I heard. ❤❤
Very good take I enjoyed your perspective on the issue. Also the fact that when any crime happens. The “native” population loves to scream “usual suspects”, however the data does suggest a trend. It stems way before our time why it’s turned out like this
No, now you’re just using excuses for bad behaviour today. That’s the reason you have been stuck in this same loop for your entire life. You are not the only people who have ever been dealt a bad hand. The problem is, you all keep perpetuating the same cycle that has never worked for you and you keep avoiding the obvious. And the usual suspects thing, though it is outdone, it generally does have some weight to it. Take accountability or you will never leave the hole you are in.
I have travelled the world seen extremities in poverty Young people here are pampered and do not have a sense of duty and responsibilty..Every one is thugged out walking around with 200 pound trainers ..
If your target audience is families of black boys, it’d be helpful if you could go into more detail on what family members can do to prevent their son / brother from getting recruited into a gang etc. So how exactly are parents failing at the moment and what can they do differently. The channel “Juicell Ducati” talks about this topic as well, addressing boys specifically.
The solution is simple community community community the only reason black boys get into gangs is because they have no community and have this pressure to be “sucessful” If we started letting black boys be human and stop enforcing male ideals on what that can couldn't be and let them find there authentic community they would be able to find themselves and there interest and the ideals of gangs wouldn't be needed Poverty is the biggest factor. Until then government actually fix the poverty issues in the uk don't be surprised at gangs. Am saying this as an 18 year old black British guy older people need to listen to the youth and stop trying to fix the community using politics and respectability shit and just listen to the youth and LET KIDS BE KIDS. I was 9 year old and my father started putting these ideas in my head. Do you know how fcked up it Is to tell you kid don't cry boys don't cry? PARENTS HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR KIDS. Shouting and “parenting” is not the same as having a relationship with your child
This is great work, sobering but essential. Another great TH-cam vid on the plight of young men more generally is ‘the men - and boys - are not alright’ by Richard Reeves in a discussion on the Ezra Klein show on the NYT.
Black Boys need an industry where they can (obviously legal) have a sense of what profession they will end up doing after there education. If the father is a carpenter e.g. the young boy will be given a guide line into what he can partake in what is not permitted in order to essentially survive but what we see today is people who are not really looking into there background and seeing the larger picture of who they actually are.
In England... Black people, especially boys, are incredibly under represented in industry. Where are we supposed to find such opportunities for our sons?
Generally parents (good parents, or maybe those with time or space while working two jobs) hold the wish that their children attain higher education levels than themselves, followed by higher skilled and better paid work. Studies and statistics show that when African and Caribbean students successfully graduate with 1st class or 2nd class honours degrees their paths into promised careers meets the barrier of racism. If these knowledgable graduates are motivated to start their own business, loan applications again often meet rejection and ‘bank of mum and dad’ may not have that inherited wealth to help out. Often neither does the father have that secure work situation or connected network of brothers in varied businesses in a position to apprentice the non-academic black boys. So yes agreed it’s a chronic vicious circle. There’s an industry that feeds off our disenfranchised positions as Black people in the UK and elsewhere. It’s not a new ting but understanding it is a long ting for even some older heads. As youngsters we want the fame, the easy money, immediate gratification, and now with entertainment and social media it’s that much more difficult for traditional narratives of ‘staying in your lane’ the long road and sacrifice for success to penetrate the minds of too large a proportion of Black/African young men. Instead we get ‘no snitching’, ‘street life/on road/my ends’, and ‘dem man fi…!
Can we talk about the adult preditors that prey on our you g boys? These men are everywhere and for every "big man" there are as dozens of kids being imprisoned or killed. County lines are one scheme used. This has been happening gor yeears i am nearly 40 but when i was in school a boy that was in my year was preyed upon and killed before his 18th birthday
The adults are either naive or damn right stupid. All these big men driving £90k cars even though they've never worked a day in Thier6 lives are the place to start.
@@elywananda- they do realise. They just don't care enough to do anything about it. County lines have literally been talked about on the front page of the Daily Mail. If we don't know about this, it's because we don't want to know. We hopped up off the settee and went out on the streets quick enough when it was Black Lives Matter though.
You are right if you got a black teenager boy with the bicycle and he his not around at home or comes back home late! Rise your eyes and find out what is doing and check his friends too!
We need to get rid of the music glorifying the type of culture that's not based in pushing education as a route to success; we don't hear music called gansta metal or gansta rock. I'd even go so far as to say I'd prefer my kids to listen to classical music! We need our own schools taught by men(black) until we can sort out the issue with single parenthood! I do believe our boys need tough love and guidance to keep them on the right track!
Hard to get rid of considering we are not the one's funding these types of music, nor are we the main audience.. the last thing I think BBs need is more tough love.. they get a lot of that already, and it doesn't work. I agree with more black men in education
@@chikawambu774 I don't agree that black boys get tough love anymore the government put a stop to that years ago! I've raised 4 so I know! As for the music, we as parents need to turn our kids against it from an early age by doing so we will confine it to the dust bin of history where it belongs.
@@timojazz6829 The music wouldn't be nearly as problematic if our children were in safe environments with nurturing and supportive families around them.
@@elywananda Totally agree! I was raised singlehandedly by my dear mother. I'd tried to give my four boys what I had missed, a father. Thankfully my efforts paid off.
Problem stems deep, for a lot of people, it's a lack of a nuclear family status. Single parent kids, historic involvement in crime & gang violence, being surrounded in a negative ghetto environment with toxic people, status of repping your postcode, drill music further increasing acts of violence in postcode wars. Endless cycle of rinse & repeat. No one is educating the next generation & no one is willing to change, unfortunately it'll take centuries to iron out these issues, as simply there is no unity, only division & conquer amongst the same ethnicity which is just sad.
Take these high profiles troubled footballers Jesse Lingard, Deli Ali, Nile Ranger Marcus Radford,Jason Sancho. Where are their fathers. Look at Jude Bellingham and Bukayo Saka. You know where their fathers are and just how stable and consistent the whole family model is .
The environment from all angles reinforces this negative construct. Anything that is not "street" is seen as lame. I work alongside brothers that themselves have children coming into there teenage years and still venerate the "street". Men approaching 40 are still dressing like they are 15 and equally overly concerned with what trainers they/you are wearing. I think part of real growing up is leaving impulsive ego behind you and being humble. Unfortunately the culture we currently inhabit has such a self perpetuating nature to it.
Parenting, Families as well as communities are, in my opinion, a major factor here. I think the data makes it clear, particularly with your other posts Ely. And from what I can see in social media, family is not being promoted - quite the opposite. So I guess the question is, what can we as BP do about it? I guess this is a generational change - one child / family at a time?
The burden falls at the feet of black fathers/men to make change. My husband migrated to UK & set up a business in South London, he discovered grown men, grandfathers in the community orchestrating criminal behaviour, exploiting young men & putting them in harms way. It will take black men being prepared to sacrifice time & energy to pour into the lives of their own children & children who are not theirs to make a change. Two parent homes are not a magic bullet, I grew up in a two parent home with a man who stayed for what he could get out & not what he could contribute.A huge shift from the selfish mentality to community minded by blk men is required if we want to build & elevate our situation.
@@shazj1842 Wholeheartedly agree. I see greatness in our boys (and girls), but too few of we grownups are giving them the tools to unlock that greatness within.
We are all individuals and we can choose to do right or wrong. I and my close friends all come from poor black families, single parented but we realised from a young age that education and proper family planning were the ways out of poverty. One of my friends is now the owner of a successful AI company and I remember when he was young sometimes his mom didn't have the money to pay the electric bill and he would do his homework and studies by candle light. We all lived in Brent and could of chosen the road man/gangster life style. No matter how dire you upbringing is you can always choose to do the right thing. As for parents we need to remember that a lot of our parents received harsh decipline for their parents. My grand father came from jamaica in 60s and had his children (my uncles, aunts and mother) in the UK. But he raised them with that harsh jamaican parenting style where he would excessively beat them - it would be classed as child abuse today. Some of them were able to overcome that physical trauma whereas others are still suffering from the effects (mental health) today. I think we'll always have those type of men who are happy to impregnate multiple women and not play any part in their childrens life and we'll always have women that will be happy to be made pregnant by such men and repeat the cycle for generations. despite the drill music, crime and single parent families and child can still prosper if they choose to.
I don't believe in free choice/free will. This whole thing is predetermined. All fate. You didn't choose anything; good or bad. Just the SAME % no matter how you slice it.
hey ELY! I'm Aboriginal Australian. I support my AFRICAN BROTHERS! European males enslaved, colonized and subjugated our people for over three generations! European men tried to breed the melanin out of our skin! I respect you for speaking out for the oppressed people globally, much love man...!
Check out the Arab ☪️🕌🕋👳🏼 slave trade greatest genocide towards black people and others. Black people are low in numbers in Muslim countries compared to the transatlantic trade ⛓️
@@sunrise2148 Yes, the colonizer must be referring to me saying “I support my African brothers”, he think I’m lying about that. If not, the colonizer is just deluding himself to soothe his own ego.
This is a continued topic that we need to move on from- previous generations have said the same. We need to organise it is that simple. There are enough of us millenials now that have the skills to put together a "quiet group" to truly influence change. Or we'll just have the same conversations until I'm 75 (currently 35).
I think the figures would be different if it was separated by country of origin, there are a lot of black people who came as refugees from different parts of Africa, and they get caught up in a cycle of poverty and crime because they aren't properly integrated ,they live within their communities ,if you put unskilled and less educated men together it leads to drugs and crimes . And this is the case not just for Africans but also middle eastern , gypsy migrants in Europe. So migrants in Europe need to create good communities for bussiness and to help develop eachother like the indians.
I don't think country of origin or immigration category would make much difference. These are red herrings that divert us from addressing the issues at hand.
We need to talk about the older predictors that prey on the young black men to do their dirty duties. County lines being one such scheme. For every one "big man" there are dozens of little boys being killed and imprisoned. But everyone is scared to stand up to these guys.
That's never gonna happen until WE make our own media that we control. The media is controlled by Wyt Liberals who are obsessed with portraying Black people as Gay. That's all they care about - BM being Gay. And if you object to these representations they will accuse you of being a reverse racist.
This is she exact same situation with black boys & men in the US! Exact same! At this point we need to discuss that it just might be something in their DNA!
It is not a genetic problem. It is one of black fathers not being in the house and heading the household. Once a man is iut of the house he has to fight to get back into contact with his kids. All women can play the parental alienation game against the father. The father then has to resist the urge to just walk away. I fought very hard and even took her to court!
@ sounds good but studies so that when black guys still have a father in the home they still do NOT do as well as them white counterparts. This is not the case for black girls.
@@colinw7479 so why are so many black men not able to lead their homes? Why do they keep making broken homes knowing this is the outcome. Also, stats show even with two parents and middle income households black boys still do not do as well as their peers. This is NOT the case for black females. There is an issue with black boys and men that need to be addressed! Not every woman is holding her child from the father and like you said you did have to fight and you have right to be in your child’s life. If you cared you get your child regardless of circumstances
Then how do you explain this:" In 2005, Glasgow was named the ‘murder capital of Europe" and was cured like a disease, by treating underlying issues such as poverty. Yes it was mainly white men, and multiple ethnicities have done acts of violence throughout history. While not making excuses for people, I can see more crime and homelessness now for many ethnicities now that the economic situation is worse.
Materiel greed as replaced love, we need to have conversation with our children. Be present and extra vigilant, I am a detective I know where my King's are on the daily basis, I do the best I can.
@@WhereDeyAt Right. I think this is the key. Talking with our children and listening carefully to them. Getting to really know them and relentlessly coaching them day after day, guiding them as they learn about themselves and the world around them. As I read around, the lack of parental supervision is a key risk factor for children getting involved in crime and gangs. We have to be there for them, and we need to plan in advance before having children to make sure we'll be able to do that.
Ely is a nice man... I however am not. We have the worst parents, and this is the root of all of this imo. But we are raised to not be critical of our parents and elders. But thats just the trauma by way of emotional and physical abuse. So many of our homes are ran by single mothers. Im not here to blame women for being in this situation - i believe its both men and womens fault - but how can you effectively supervise adolescent boys who live in a ghettoised environment? When theres no father in the home, you have no defence. Further to that, women will bring in step dads wnd many of these will be abusive and without a natural care for her kids... Further sending these children off the edge. But we will blame everything else (things that are valid) BUT our family planning and parenting skills. Have three kids with three different men... Blame ra cism.
You're more direct and pull less punches (ironic, given your martial arts skill!). All roads lead to parenting without a shadow of a doubt (in my mind at least).
Have three kids by three different men? Hhmm. The three men injecting their DNA in a women with multiple kids for different men, is to blame too right? Both parties should be held accountable and bare equal responsibility. 🙏🏿
@elywananda 😂😂 damn must be instinctual. But, like you, I just want to see us do better. We deserve better... A fighting chance for a good life. I think you are the best person to talk about these issues. You understand the issues but you also have diplomacy. It's not much but every post you make will be met with a super thanks as a gesture to my appreciation of you. 🤝🏿
And men often have several children with different women. However, the difference is, women stick around and raise the children whilst fathers are almost completely absent, and show little to no care/support to the mothers or children. Yet we wonder why it’s the boys without fathers and role models who are out of control, and the girls seem to get along fine. It’s because girls have their mothers as role models and boys are abandoned, left with nothing to model themselves on. Nearly all the boys you see in gangs have absent fathers.
@@IntrovertMaxxing Yeah I tip toe around to get points across 🤣 You're more like "shut up and listen." We'll cover all the bases with our different approaches. Hopefully we're helping to make a difference.
Good video. One thing you didnt mention is many black females glorify the thug bad boy and are attracted to these types of males, this is a reason why some men choose the street lifestyles than pursuers of academics.
So you're saying that blk men will literally do anything in the pursuit of s*x, no matter what the cost is to their race, their community, their family or even themselves? Also, many blk boys who end up as criminals were not actually born to criminal fathers. Which means that their mothers were not attracted to thugs.
I believe our challenges stem primarily from the socioeconomic class and mindset we predominantly belong to. By collectively climbing the socioeconomic ladder (becoming scientists, entrepreneurs, and engineers) we would be navigating away from these problems.
It takes self discipline, hard work and a willingness to take constructive criticism to become a scientist or engineer over several years. Also, if you work for a corporate you have to be a team player and be receptive to feedback from peers and seniors. Most black boys fall short of any or all of these attributes which is why street and gang life is so attractive to them. They get to make up their own rules and if they disagree with the slightest diss, for want of a better word, their answer is to take that person out. Edit. No talking, no problem solving, no introspection. The very soft skills needed by the professions you mentioned.
Absolutely not 😂 I'm sorry but you see this problem worldwide. They can't out masculine the majorities males (WM) in money and influence so they do it with violence and crime. It's not an accident it's male animals trying to display dominance in a society that wasn't created for nor by them. Climbing as a group will be difficult.
@@Coco-uk9tv- thank you! Not many blk people have the guts to admit this. There is also the fact that this life gives them an adrenaline rush and a sense of power that they can't get anywhere else.
There is also the fact that blk men are even more likely to choose non black partners as they climb the social ladder. Black women (and by extension black children) are much less likely to see a return on their investment than women of any other race, which is one of reasons why poverty in the blk community is still so pervasive. It's also one of the reasons why many bw are choosing to go child free.
Also, blk men across all social strata are much less likely to be married and much more likely to have out of wedlock children. That doesn't seem to change no matter what their educational or financial status is.
Similar in the US. The stats make it appear that Black men are more prone to criminality, the reality is they are targeted and not only have a higher conviction rate but harsher sentencing. This creates higher recidivism. It makes for an unpleasant generational pattern.
No excuse. The black culture mostly value rap, sports and the "playa" lifestyle. Blacks are dangerous in Canada too. They kill each other at clubs merely because one black guy looked at the other the "wrong" way.
I work as a manager for a large retail store. And when I started, I would get so pissed at the blatant racial profiling that occurs when a black male enters the store. Even the black employees will report thats theres suspected shoplifter over the headset when some black males ( and black females) enter the shop. After five years on the job I have changed so much that I call security as well .... and we're black! there has been so many times that I've tried to give us the benefit of doubt and challenged people on their blatant racism and have ended up with egg on my face because the suspect ended up stealing. Now when I'm followed in a store, i get annoyed but I get it because I see the other side. I've seen that of the 6 shoplifters that day, 4 have been black. Ive seen my security beaten by a black man because he's tried to take the stock back, I've been treathened and spat at by my own people. Having someone steal from your place of work or committing crimes in your community will make anyone pissed and prejudiced. I say all this to say, yes youre right, we are profiled and targeted, but as a minority in predominantly white countries, we have to start doing better. There just seem to be a race to the bottom for us black people while other minority groups are trying to capitalise off us and elevate themselves.
This is only a partial answer. The disparities are so large that we must be committing crime at a higher rate from the start. Of course the police are going to focus their energies on the areas where there is the most crime.
The stats make it appear that way because it actually IS that way. As a bw, I'm no longer moved by these tales of woe. Especially when bw have to bear the brunt of much of this activity.
@@DaRealist213 Depending on the neighborhood you're in, crime will be a reflection of that group. We used to say while security is concentrating their attention on us white folks are boosting stuff from the stores. That's the issue with profiling, you see what you are looking for.
It all starts at HOME, and sadly too many of our boys are growing up on the streets. If you have parents that have not been taught the importance of education then they will not be able to instill that in their own children. So many of us care more about our appearance than we do education. Many parents from an early age are dressing kids in designer clothes, why? instead read to your child and focus on education not wearing labels, not hairstyles, not music. Education. People moan that our kids have nothing to do after school? unless you're an A* student you have plenty to do, educate yourself. Now some will say the education system is set up against us, education is not the sole reserve of schools, just reading everyday will exercise your mind. In this day and age its so easy to teach yourself things. The focus should never be on fast money but education and understanding the simple legal ways to make money, yes it will take some years to master but what is the hurry? slow down and take time. Learn to stand on your own and not be a follower of others. Parents, have to be parents, if a parent cannot instill the correct values into their children, then it will be left to society to clean up after them and we will all suffer. Good parents can raise their children to become great young adults, but it only takes one encounter with a child that hasn't been raised correctly and a life can be lost over something very very petty. As a father It scares me having a son growing up in London, he started secondary school this year and this is a pivotal point in a black boys life. I am doing the best i can for my son, but this is a collective problem. I do not live in bubble, so I think we the PARENTS need to come together and create some form of unity amongst us and do things where we can only attend if we bring our children. We need to let them come together from all sorts of areas and do things in the presence of us the parents. I see this with other cultures but usually done under the umbrella of a religion, we need a way of gathering for a common good without a religion. I'm just thinking out loud here but I am so happy I have found your channel. I have often said things about the "no snitching" rules which to me is just a way that we protect the what i call cancer in our communities. Unlike other cultures and groups we seem to want to protect our cancer and give it a secure environment to grow, instead of removing it.
What happened to the wind rush generation, when there were families; Dad, mum and kids. The Dad’s worked hard and so did the women they brought up their children well but the generations after messed up.
People like to paint a rosy picture of the Windrush. Yes, believe it or now, things were better then in terms of community. However, it was during this time that many Caribbean walked out on their families, never to return. The women were left alone to raise their children alone, and from then on the rot set in. Remember the educationally subnormal label, Sus Laws, blatant racism, out of wedlock children, multiple kids for different women. This is how it all started.
Hi @Elywananda, good episode. I enjoy your content because it touches on many important issues facing our communities. Black communities are at the sharp end of the criminal justice system and only by understanding the data can we understand the cause, effect and impact of crime on us (both as victims and perpetrators). Data is also useful for uncovering the solutions to how we tackle some of the biggest challenges our communities face. The Lammy Review recommendations are a good start at a criminal justice level if they are implemented. But we all need to delve deeper into why our Black boys are over-represented in crime stats and lower educational quartiles. My local authority has a Black Boys Scrutiny committee dedicated to data collection and recommending policy changes at a local level to improve the life chances of Black boys, it's not perfect but it's a start. Keep up the good work!
We don't need to delve any deeper. We've been regurgitating the same taking points for literally half a century now. What we need is action, but this has always been our weakness.
There is no nice way to put this. There are too many adults, parents and children who have absolved responsibility for their actions. It is always someone else’s fault. The girls pick unsuitable partners and are not emotionally or financially in a position to raise the child and then go on to have more, who continue the cycle. The boys are too busy listening to music/social media that gives them the outlook that there is nothing for them. Rather than use the tools available to them to be the best version of themselves. Some parents have conditioned their children to believe that as soon as something does not go their way, they should give up and turn to criminal activities. On top of that rather than keep what they are doing on the down low, they go onto social media bragging about what they have done. London is the most CCTV'd place. Just because a police officer is not there does not mean that they won't get caught, which sooner or later they do. The difference between US and UK is that in the US they lock up black men for life. In the UK you are released after a few years with a criminal record. Once you have a criminal record it is exceptionally difficult to shake it off and progress with your adult life. If you think it is bad now. I predict that in the next 5 years black men in particular will become increasing homeless and suffer from increasing mental health issues as parents throw them out of the family home and they have not made stable relationships with the mothers of their children. Not sure what the answer is but I do know that the 'black' people who I know who are doing well (including single parents) studied hard and are in decent salaried jobs, moved away from certain areas, put their children into the best local state schools and spent time with their children. They didn't run up to the school screaming at the teachers, if given a detention, more worked alongside the school to resolve issues. They also had them in after school activities, to try to keep them away from individuals who did not share the same morals/standards.
I am happy to see that the focus is on black men because realistically black young women are doing very well for themselves out there in the world. Successful careers, business and successful in their education. Black women are pulled towards the dark side but we are able to resist that dark life probably because of the mother-daughter bond. A son won’t have that same bond with his mother. Sons need their fathers, to be there and to be present!!
Black women are also struggling often in invisible or overlooked ways. This conversation is about black men and very much needed but black women die x3 more than our counterparts and we have high levels of stress, anxiety and obesity. We are not ok.
The only reason we are able to resist the dark side (to a certain extent) is because we are adultified and held to a higher standard from a very early age. Most bw do not have an actual bond with their mothers.
It's your choice as a human how you act, as it tells your kids how to react and how it affects the children they have to act, blacks are over represented in all violent crime, its been this way for decades, the reason is biology and culture,if you didn't commit crimes the justice system wouldn't touch you, thanks for trying to to draw attention to this
It really is a function of economics tbh. The numbers in crime rates will correlate with the amount of economic ownership in the country. In short black people have failed to gain ownership of businesses and property in this country and cannot give anything to our own. That is the no.1 problem. We dont even own the shops that supply our hair! Let alone corner shops in our communities or other types of businesses that sustain our communities and give opportunities to our young people. This is the result. Every other immigrant community establishes an economic footprint through business ownership. First with supplying their own communities and then the wider population. We have done nothing like that in 50yrs here. The other stat that should be produced is how many young people need to ask a person of another race for their first job? What is that ratio? So if you are a young black person who has to go outside of your community to eat, what's the chances you will end up doing something criminal instead? Everything is economics first, and I doubt there is any social change that can happen without addressing the economics.
I have thought about this after that Peckham hair salon incident last year. Everyone was complaining about racist Asian shop owners and I thought to myself, why are shops serving the black community not owned by black people? Asians came here with nothing and suffered as much racism as we did.
@@extrude22- because blk people don't like each other. The sense of community that people talk about was in fact forced proximity. And because bm were too busy chasing women & making unwanted children to bother building any kind of infrastructure for their own community. They saw no shame in seeing their women go to the Indian man to buy black hair products and black food.
The system is set up to disenfranchise black boys. I grew up in Tottenham in the 90s my education was destroyed after all the good teachers left the school a year after I started year 7 .. the school was 90 % black .I didn't get it fixed til I moved to a school in a more white area
@@eggonegg If things are bad in certain areas, I personal think it's on parents to relocate their families. Yes it'll mean being separate from networks, but in the long run it will be for the best.
@elywananda agree , I moved to Norway about 10 years ago. My kids don't have to worry about getting stabbed. Funny when my sierraleonean parents wanted a better life so came to London, then I wanted better so moved to Norway.
Reminds me of my upbringing, Lived in Lewisham through the 90s to 2001, then moved up north and it was in a predominately white area. It was a struggle at first but as i get older i understand why my folks moved me and my sis up there. It was a crucial phase of our development to not only integrate but focus on our education and not to be dragged down by other blacks, unfortunately.
@@eggonegg Even that decision YOU 'think' you made, was made for you. If you're honest with yourself, you'll get to the conclusion that a thought popped into your head one way or another, a hunch or a 'gut feeling' lol people take pride or put themselves down over something they had nothing to do with. Either way, congrats whatever drove you to norway wanted you out of a bad situation.
I’m really sorry, but outside Stratford tube I see groups of them acting all Road Men like - using the tube without paying (I see a lot of this in the Dalston Overground stations) and other people avoid them with angry, negative vibes. It’s almost like the kids are cultivating the mistrust and anxiety they cause older people…, is this anxiety considered Racist?
It starts with the family structure, then we move onto stereotypes, then there's police profiling. If as adults we're able to navigate our children through all these hoops and obstacles, something Asians also have to deal with, but to a lesser extent, then we are really starting to address the problems, but we must have honest conversations with the younger generation. Let's also remember that parents are sometimes the kids worst enemy, by setting atrocious standards of behaviour that are mimicked by their offspring.
It’s a real shame how boys from poor backgrounds, both black and white who have been forgotten. Eduction is failing them as it’s based around how girls think. I was very lucky. Got a break through the RAF but many aren’t. The loss of family is a major issue. We are missing out on a great group of people who have so much to offer society.
@ education. Can you not read. The education system is based around the female brain. It’s a known problem. Males tend to need more practical based education whereas females respond better to formal academic style,which is what most schools have. Is that easy enough for you?
Right, a waste of human potential. Education should be able to engage all kids but it's a big 'sausage factory' as King Charles once put it. Some do ok with that, some can think more for themselves and have awareness beyond the curriculum and get disillusioned too young. Curriculum is too broad, teachers not trained to handle challenging behaviour skillfully. The blame doesn't lie with children.
The government has had a big impact on breaking up the black home. Especially the Labour government who rewarded single mums with houses and benefits which encouraged kicking the man out of the home. We can also look at the music industry which encourages gangster rap and drill. Gate keepers like Tim Westwood and Charlie Sloth have young black kids on their show promoting killing / drug dealing / gangster / drill music.
The labour government has not been in charge of the country for the last 14 years, this seems like a rehash of the American trope of black welfare queen stereotype (which is bull**) that right wingers like to use. My question to you is why are you using this? what's your agenda?
I'm sick of hearing/reading the bs from the manosphere re "welfare took black fathers out of the home". Black fathers up and left. Walked out. Abdicated. Abandoned. It's been going on for generations and at least for Caribbeans it started around the Windrush. At that time there was no such thing as welfare, not substantially anyway. Both parents started off together married and both worked to make ends barely meet. Child benefit was paid for one child only, and was introduced before Windrush because white husbands used to spend their weekly wages on beer and not their kids, so the government stepped in and gave the money direct to the mothers. Back to Caribbeans, the men left, mostly for white women. Caribbean mothers remained in the home struggling, whilst WORKING, to raise their kids. Sadly, the sons of these single mothers, did not marry, went onto create single mother homes too, and or dated white women exclusively. The cycle has repeated over the decades. But let's get one thing straight, Caribbeans in this country have historically rejected welfare, they see it as a stigma. The majority of them men and women went out to work for their living; none of them sat at home idle all day collecting benefits. So don't come with the bs. The men left of their own volition. No one forced them. It was the case then, and it's the same today.
As a woman of white skin,as a woman Who believes in Jesus we also need to realise this is spiritual, we asko need to eake up that not all but some blacks are the true Israelites the Bible is your history so the devils wont you killing esch other breaking God laws
Israelites were not Africans. Can we stop the pandering to make everyone feel special? If Asians had been enslaved either, you'd be saying that about them too.
@@Factz_over_emotionsSo all single mothers are to blame, not the fathers who abandoned their boy children? Btw, Chris Kaba came from a two parent home.
Ely I saw your video pop and to be honest I was too scared to view it. Unfortunately we are back here again discussing the issue with young black male counterparts. This is a massive topic and the sad fact is that parents who were born in the UK and went on to have children did not learn from their own experiences with schooling and social mobility. Simple rules were not applied always achieve better than your parents. If your parents did not buy house then you buy a house, if went to an underperforming school make sure your children don't etc you get where I'm coming from. Living in the inner-city has not done black families any favors. Then we add absent fathers then add mothers who stop children from seeing their children. If you did not purchase a what are your children going to inherit. These are the basic foundations and I know things don't always go according to these rules. Self-esteem issues, worthless, not knowing what it is to be a man. Don't think that I'm pointing fingers as I'm a product of single parent household. I found out around 5 years ago that I have an older sister. I fully know what me can be like. My wife was on point with our children's education but that is another story. Ely I just don't know what else to say. Just let you know I'm from the the inner city like all my friends but the difference is we had sticked no nonsense Jamaican parents. I witnessed the rise of the gangs and violence which luckily we missed. Apologies Ely my comments are all over the simply because this is a huge topic and impossible to cover all bases.
Thank you for this insightful analysis. I would suggest that this issue is more prevalent among Black boys of Caribbean origin. One significant factor is the lack of educational achievement, which limits their opportunities, and leads some to resort to crimes like robbery as a means of survival. In contrast, for Black boys of African origin, there is an emphasis from a young age on studying hard and pursuing higher education. Interestingly, in the Caribbean, Black boys generally take schooling seriously and tend to achieve better outcomes. It didn't seem to cross over with the windrush for reasons we could speculate. Another contributing factor is the absence of fathers or strong father figures, which is more prevalent among the Black British communities.
This has nothing to do with education. Blk boys are drawn to crime even when there is nothing wrong with their education. And they may take education more seriously in the Caribbean, but the out of wedlock rates are still high over there. Jamaica actually has an out of wedlock rate of 90%.
an important video but we blacks have to realise we have generational complex traumas which we have not healed from much more even aware of we have to heal because these traumas have brought on behaviour and personality disorders a child needs to attach biologically and if they have nobody they attach with their peers please let us talk about upbringing, especially early development first before all the statistics and education the children have to be happy, secured, listened to, develop emotionally, giving autonomy taught to set boundaries READ sports they don"t need to be punished but listened to above all LOVED
This topic needs address quite a few issues: From my experience, and I have recordings of judges removing files in family court, and the deliberately falsified CRB, which changed to dbs around the time of myself highlighting the lies within. We as individuals and collectively are doing a great endeavours. I've worked in youth system and it has big numbers yet 'we' are doing more productive and positive. Yet as we stride and strive forward, we have negatives thrown at us, some don't know how to handle it, and the system fails men and the family - may I say deliberately. Many, oops/ some of us grew up with our parents working, and both cooking and maintaining house and children. Men left the housevto women as part of uk structure yet i know stories then and now where the father has fought for the home as uk colonial mindset look to push fault and or blame upon him alone. Often even among my friends they make sweeping false statements as though true until I ask if true for them, and that is a problem of people telling other people's events as their own. Some of my youngers - I've worked with - are no longer here through crime. Yet for myself a lot are here and progressing. Risk assessment of Common Purpose being racist and or adding to the problem by not recognising its misandrous bias are common. Been fortunate to talk to Rasta, Hippy and many others about UK social services, UK family law and solicitor's bias of historical attitudes towards men and the melinated family structures. We do reflect on the situations yet address the full 100 or this will continue if you don't address the white lies. There needs to be a risk assessment and or acknowledgement of the racism in the system which copies and pastes colonial mentality lies into reports. I got the paperwork, experiences, recordings and rolled eyes. If you want to hear or read the lies shout me - you are welcome. [Made these comments early, before watching in full] Great topic, can't wait to hear what you have to say, and where I ascertain how much of the 100 you are discussing. Halfway through: No stats on my situation: None on 'White' judge conspiring with an ex to remove facts about I had custody of our child. This situation involved smearing through paperwork by making deliberate false narrative in remarks shared to agencies, which comes under common purpose. NOTE: So some of those stats you are using for me have the white lie narrative hidden in plain sight. NOTE further things we need to discuss: on some files it showed an entrapment to jail myself, as there is a trick out there like a honey trap, which some have fallen into.
As a mixed-race man (half-black, half-white), I distance myself from the black community entirely. 1) I experienced racism from them growing up. Because I talked "proper" and not like a street thug and had little interest in gang culture and actions, I was told that I behaved "too white", so was ostracised and insulted. Ironically, these ignorant people did not realise they were actually insulting themselves, and also harming black culture by putting it within the exact stereotypes that they claim to hate. 2) The victim complex. I was raised by a single mother (no prizes in guessing my father was a black man, as is too common of an experience), with very little money and my mother had children for all the wrong reasons. This meant no proper support, no financial support, and little opportunities, so as a whole, I had a terrible start to life, but I got through. I am 24 now, I make £40k a year, I have a very good hybrid work balance, I rent a 2 bedroom house, so what's anyone else's excuse? Spouting all this crap about "the life chose me", and blaming literally anything except their own decisions. Unfortunately, I can't move past the trauma associated with the horrible way I was treated. It's impossible for me to feel sympathy. I can recognise how sad it is, but I have no other frame of reference of the culture other than the way I was treated.
We're not all street urchins and "thugs"clearly someone close to you has made a bad choice. Most of my family members are university educated and are in professional roles contributing positively to society. They are also responsible. Try and get help for your issues instead of lumping us all in the same bag.
@@anngore3842 That was never said, but it's easier for you to say that than actually deconstruct me. Furthermore, I would be associated with that too. So that proves my point that mixed race people aren't considered kin by their own, yet you wonder why the cultural allies are so few? As for your anecdote, your comment is phrased stereotypically, almost as if you are parodying: "we aren't all [insert thing here]." Is that really your best response? Comparatively, this video addresses a wider issue affecting the MAJORITY. You are demonstrating that you are ignoring everything that this video has discussed, and are invalidating struggles in favour of whataboutism. In addition to this video, here are some more depressing statistics: More than half of black children in the UK live in poverty, black people are more likely to live in areas that are underprivileged with high crime rates. I have no issues. I simply refuse to embrace the side of my birthright culture that has from my experience been racist and in-denial. That is personal choice. Keep refusing to admit these very real things are happening, so things can never get better.
This was precisely my experience too as a mixed race girl growing up in the 90s/early 2000s re the treatment from black people in school ect. I really find the victim complex frustrating and frankly, infuriating. My Dad came to the UK from sierra leone with nothing, worked hard, studied at LSE and his achievements still motivate and inspire me today as a 33 year old. I simply do not sympathise with the victim narrative, it just doesn't wash with me. Take some accountability, remove the chip from your shoulder and stop blaming everything on race.
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How would they do worse if they were in Africa or the Caribbean ?
@eddiethorne6461 they wouldn't
Black people all over the world are creating mayhem wether its believing cultural marxist lies about racism so they do the elites job and remove white people from their home nations and destroy the west. The jews use black people as bullets against white people. Black people should be confined to africa
This is on us African and Afro Caribbean men. Many of us who are (biological) fathers keep abandoning the home, creating single parent homes left right and centre and then we turn around and blame the single mothers that we create en masse. WE have to do better as MEN and take care of our boys.
You are absolute correct but you need to bring your argument back to reality. The reality is that we have bred a culture of broken homes so this makes it hard for women to be wives and men to be husbands. You are expecting people stay together when they are not even capable of behaving as an organised unit. We are socialised to be baby mamas and baby daddies and to look up to criminals and dead beats. You cannot just put a band-aid on a gaping wound
We also need to stop perpetuating the false narrative of the absent black father when research consistently shows that black men are the most involved fathers of separate parent households. Women cheat at equal rates to men and in that respect are equally responsible for the dissolution of two parent households also. Lone parent households do not equate to absent fatherhood either.
We need to focus on planned parenthood, laying strong foundations for parental relationships before the children arrive.
The breakdown of the family unit, parental conflict and then difficulties in establishing contact is a real issue with the costs of family court in competition with child maintenance payments and cost of living, many fathers struggle to afford representation in the family courts and unfortunately relinquish responsibility. This shouldnt be the case, but we do need to ask why is contact being withhold in the first place.
@petermollo1908 Agree however, taking accountability is not a band aid it's the first step to improving one's situation. And unfortunately it starts with us men. Once we as men raise our standards collectively, the women will automatically follow because women always mirror and become a reflection of men. The fact that we have so many single mothers is a reflection of, yes, their poor choices in men, but also, and more importantly, a staggering amount of low functioning black males available to our women. So, even if a woman wants a good quality man, it's really slim pickings for her.
We need to mass produce good quality men again, create a culture if excellent manhood and you will see many women raising their standards as well, as a result
Nope, a African British woman also cursed me out on Obodo Oyinbo site about a year ago when I stated that black boys have to be careful in school. She pretty much said it was a Windrush problem and that African boys were doing great. Like really? Wasn't it Caribbean blacks who fought for black British rights in the UK??? But she insulted me a black Caribbean woman with slave and European ancestors who built the UK... I will only help my Caribbean people and other western blacks
British Caribbean women are something else... I defo get it’s the position they may have been put into, but sometimes I wish they would engage their brains...Complete lack of foresight...
The love of whiteness is crazy... The hair straitening, the IR relationships, the acceptance of IR relationships, and then wondering why they have no men to marry
Chris Kaba is a case in point. His family are more focused on portraying him as an innocent man who was victimised by police, when in fact he was using his car to ram police officers and potentially kill them at the point that he was shot. He was suspected of a shooting in a nightclub only days prior, which is why police were searching for his car in the first place.
Historical injustices can't be used in bad faith to cover up the reality of what's happening out there on the streets. Unless there's a real attempt to stop this hideous social phenomenon, young black men/boys will continue to die at the hands of each other as well as the police.
Excellent points. U need more thumbs up
You are so right
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Chris Kabba was murdered by the police pretending that he could use his car to harm the police.
@@Evemeister12 black men need to stop putting themselves in death situations
The cycle continues when they have children of their own
@@handson-w8c That's the part that is most crushing, for me. These babies are coming into the world with the odds already stacked against them. It makes me so angry.
In perpetuity
@@handson-w8c Exactly
Not If i decided not to have kids. Marrage is a scam, girls are vultures & will destroy ur life, & religion is Bs. Focus on science.
There's no black community. It's just people looking down at one another
Even the term 'black' was cooked up in Washington. There is no monoliths, people are people, there is no 'community'
@@ibizawavey8630neither is it an ethnicity. It's a division. There's more genetic similarity between Africa and Europe than within Africa. Each one of us is personally accountable in this life.
@@ibizawavey8630what?
This. Im East African and never seem to get on with other Africans especially those from the West ( Nigerians and Ghanaians)
But I've had many positive experiences with Caribbeans.
There's tooo many differences in all of us for us to be community. We treat each other differently based on our looks, how pretty we are, skin tones, religions, ethnicties the list goes on...
@@shoryu87 Right, I've met Nigerians that have zero empathy for Caribbean British, no sense of unity unless it benefits them.
My Kings are 17 & 11, I tell them I love them everyday, we never go to bed on an argument. Of course we have bad days, I take them back to Africa when I can so they can connect with their roots, UGANDA AND JAMAICA, I wish every black boy could get on that plane and see where their parents come from, it grounds them somehow,they say we are distilled out of herbs,flowers fruits and roots. I tell my sons every action has a reaction and and you reap what you saw.🙏
My boys are the same combo 🇺🇬🇯🇲 ✊🏿
All comes down to having an honest and ethical father earning on an honest living in a nuclear family in a community that fosters the same values.
Even if that family breaks down, as long as the father stays active and present, it changes everything.
Thank you for bringing attention to this! It’s an epidemic at this point. Us, black women are elevating and not seeing many of our male counterparts in these successful environments. It is so depressing. I care so much for our community!
I 100% agree families are failing these boys, especially African Caribbean families (talking as someone who is African Caribbean). The bar for parenting boys seems to be really low. I don't have children but just on observation of my parent's peers with sons, older friends with sons, etc, too many of them seem to be content with their sons sitting at home and not being productive, even when they are fully grown. The girls in these same families are not allowed to get away with this.
💯. I'm Caribbean heritage and witnessed myself how the boys and men were able to do the most wrong.....and crickets. But anyhow the daughter veered out of line buoy....you had to leave home before your parents got home from work lol. Two red lines back in the day......no babies and Whyte boyfriends strictly forbidden. Meanwhile the boys are getting up to all sorts of 💩, breeding like rats and bunny hopping all over the place. And as for the police, well that was their get out clause, because the Babylon had it in for them right?
Why do so many fathers abonden there children or have a bit part relationship, from these minorotys
Word for this is called neglect.
@deadpresidentials in some cases it is but in others there's actually more coddling going on. I know of several males 40+ who are still at home with their mothers who are still providing for them like children. These cases aren't neglect.
Excessive coddling of men is neglect. It's neglecting to effectively rear us into the men we need to be. A lot of people say raising boys is easier bc they arent raising us at all. Just ignoring us or making us unprepared for reality by coddling which looks nice but it isnt.
9/10 those men you describe come from single parent backgrounds. Theres many things in this dynamic that women don't pick up on.
No one respects those men and those men wish they werent like that deep down. Our family dynamics are completely backwards.
Good that you want to focus on emotional development. Unfortunately, I believe that too many Black youth and especially boys (but not exclusively) haven't learned how to handle emotional stress and put on a tough facade. So when they're under pressure their negative emotions often manifest in a way that's harmful to them and their community. More needs to be said about this where it pertains to black boys and it needs to come from men. So thank you.
@@Afrinaturality It's absolutely essential. I'd possibly argue that emotional development/intelligence/literacy is the most important skill to develop in youngsters and big folks.
I took my 17yr old to Africa, he was so free to be a child, playing bear feet, in the rain with his peers, I could see the joy in his eyes, embracing the culture, food, he had to catch the chicken before we slaughtered it for dinner, the price of his trainers didn't matter, he didn't have to watch his back 247.
But we were in the country side, point am trying to make the boys his age in UK, are so busy trying to keep up appearances it's robbing them of their childhood.
And not everyone can afford to go back home to Africa, Caribbean for a holiday but our children need to embrace and explore there culture!!!
Of course young black boys are growing up feeling the contempt and rejection all round and turning it against one another and themselves. Until Black men as a whole, figure out for themselves that community doesn’t exist without their involvement, the next generation doesn’t exist without their leadership, and leadership requires discipline and responsibility…we are doomed.
Maybe get a job that would help
Why do alot of black men equate success with jewalalry...
Some great comments on here, the problem is too many people are frightened to call things for what they really are!
I actually work as a domestic violence caseworker but went to a training on child criminal exploitation which focused on how gangs recruited young boys to be drug runners. It explained how eventually these boys themselves become perpetrators when they were older as they recruited younger boys in the future. These gangs specifically target young people from broken families or boys who have parents who don't provide for them emotionally or financially. This really highlights how key the family structure is, a child that is taken care of at home won't even feel the need to go to anyone else for support apart from their parents so are less likely to fall victim to being recruited by these gangs. Often these boys feel like these gangs are the family that they have never had, that is until they realise how their gang members don't truly care about them in a way that a family member should.
Just to add, I have been a silent viewer for a while, but I love your videos! It is important for us to see the harsh realities of our community so we can begin to make the necessary changes needed for our community to be prosperous in the future.
@user-hu3sg7ew8d Keep up the good work !!
In addition some Mothers are left struggling when the daddy no longer partakes in the life of the child /dren he helped to create. We as Mums go to work to make a living to pay rent or mortgage, to buy food, clothing etc. It’s tough without the family network of care. Some of us are fortunate to be in supportive churches and have neighbours who look out to support. I remember again the African proverb- “It takes a village…..”
@@user-hu3sg7ew8d Such a brilliant and important insight. Thank you for sharing and I'm glad you enjoy my work.
@@melhollett7437supportive churches and neighbours is sadly largely a thing of the past now. We have now adopted the culture here and now live more isolated lives than ever before where connections are shallow, interactions are brief and momentary and the general attitude is "I don't want to interfere in another person's life"..
Successful black people need to step up now and volunteer with helping to look after these kids..they need a place to go after school where they are constantly seeing and interacting with positive role models (easier said than done I know)..
The culture of crying racism and victimhood has to be dialed down..we are pretty much the only community that hits the streets for the bottom of the barrel criminals among us..other ethnicities are secretly fed up of our whining about race all the time and they smile in our faces and nod along but behind, they want nothing to do with us...
We need to start giving our youth a message of hope..we tell them today that they're victims of the system so they throw their hands up and blame every failure in their lives on the system never actually being introspective to say what can I do better and how can I change the things I can control about my life
Sadly I know lots black lads from good families, with good grades and a possible good future career... CHOOSE TO SELL DRUGS...
They truly feel it's what they are meant to do... like they are brainwashed with nonsense about how blacks should be, by other blacks....
This channel is so important for our community, providing an honest space for real conversations that we desperately need. The analysis of why Black people are underperforming in society is crucial, but these conversations shouldn’t begin and end here. They need to be internalized in Black homes and spoken about more often. Change starts with awareness, and this platform is doing vital work to spark that.
The new Bashy album is fantastic, definitely worth a listen. Another great video Ely. Crime statistics are very important to dig deeper into and to evaluate underlying disparities
Absolutely. What I've heard of the album so far has been brilliant.
@@elywanandayou should listen to the track black men lose their smile
As a Scottish white woman, I really appreciate your honest and intelligent explanations which have helped me to understand your situation more clearly. I live in a quiet, low-crime area so this is rather difficult for me to comprehend, and I really need to be educated on this subject. You make no excuses, and I really respect you for that. Keep up the good work, and thank you.
break up of the family has created the high levels of criminality in our communities
Who or what broke it?
More accurately it’s the absence of fathers.
@@chocolatesugar4434 yes. But if a man really does just get up and leave you and his kid, you shouldn't have let that man lay up with you. A woman is supposed to vet men, they are responsible for the type of people that will come into existence.
I don't like blaming women because I can see many men are disturbed and afflicted with lethargy and low self esteem. But this is just a fact, that most other mammals adhere to
@@chocolatesugar4434Who chose that man to procreate with?
@@chocolatesugar4434 Indeed, I subscribe to the Thomas Sowell school of thought that fathers have THE single greatest influence on how young black boys/men turn out. Granted, his point of reference is America, but I think his conclusions can be applied to the black experience across the West, especially Britain, due to the similarities in culture. Many people will disagree with him on a lot of things, but on this he's spot-on. Beyond just having their fathers in their lives, black boys NEED to have them in the household living with them 24/7. In this regards, I believe marriage plays an incredibly important role. It creates a platform for fathers to model love, stability and responsibility to young men. I know I may have painted a picture that many will argue is not practicable in this time for most due their unique circumstances, or worse due to the prevalent culture in the modern world, but the point here is that we adults/parents/parents-to-be, should be taking intentional steps for the sake of our children. I believe that's the aim of Ely's channel as well, and the reason why I like listening to him.
Black men need to value themselves and stop flinging away thier seeds.
BM and BW both need to heal and look to one another to start building and rising up. Unfortunately what ever affect BM affects BW and visa versa they are all connected.
Yeah stop inseminating everything with a pulse. We need to have higher standards as a group, the women will then rise to those standards.
@@MRLX54 Spot on 🙏🏿
I can name over 5 men who have not been allowed to see their children.
Blame the women that also are contributing to this bs
@charchar5887 And the courts stopped them seeing their children how exactly?
MARCUS GARVEY wrote, a people without knowledge of their past history ,origin,and culture is like a tree without roots.
Trees that are not firmly rooted in rich, fertile soil do not grow, do not bear fruit, they cannot withstand strong wind, or bear heavy loads, this is our black boys in GREAT BRITAIN!!!😢
I used hate my dad for being absent. Then I was diagnosed with ADHD in my late 20s after he died, I did some digging and found out he had a lot of the same issues growing up as me. Only difference he was sent away to boarding school where he was probably sexually abused by staff so I don’t really blame him anymore. If he’d been white there’s a better chance he’d have gotten the support he needed at home. Racism wasn’t the entire problem, but it certainly contributed.
So important to remember this, and I should emphasise this more. Parents generally try and do the best they can, but they too experienced much by way of trauma, neglect, etc. It's why people speak of intergenerational trauma, and we can see it in our very genetics and epigenetics.
I'm no expert on this, but here's what I think might help:
• Role models. Seek out those who succeeded and try to get them "on the ground" in contexts where youth might be receptive to learning from them. Maybe at schools or concerts or other social venues.
• Police involvement. I know this will be controversial, but if you look at successes in, e.g. Las Vegas, it seems that police were members of the local community and could identify risks early and prevent them before they escalated. Police are people - if they are living in the community then they have "skin in the game" and are incentivised to promote social order and harmony.
• Play to your strengths. I think this is true for group as for individuals. If you look at diasporas throughout history, e.g. Indians and Chinese in America, Ashkenazi Jews in Eastern Europe, etc. they often specialised in certain professions or trades, shared the knowledge in their communities. In this way they developed a kind of pride and recognition. I think African Americans had big successes in sport, fashion, and music. I think Black British can definitely see success in data science, software development, music, perhaps other areas.
None of this will make any difference until the blk family structure is stabilised. Everything starts in the home.
As a British black Caribbean man I often despair at the state of our community. We are over represented in the crime stats which is not only embarrassing and fuels racism, it is also tragic because members of our own community are often the victims (all victims matter obviously!).
We are near the bottom of the economic pile and near the bottom with education.
Yes there is racism in UK society but I strongly believe that what is holding us back the most is our own community and culture.
I grew up in a household with married parents and they instilled strong values into myself and siblings. They encouraged us to do well at school and they encouraged me to follow my dream to become an architect which I did successfully. I'm not special, I am not super intelligent. I am just an average guy who pulled my socks up and got stuck in.
So I made it so to speak but why do so many of my fellow black males end up in a life of crime and other degeneracy? The family has to be something to do with it and as many people have observed, Caribbean and Black Americans especially seem to have decided that fathers are not necessary.
What is interesting is that many in the community do find this embarrassing. There was an advert for pasta sauce a few months ago which depicted a wedding day, the black bride had just her mum by her side and the white groom had both parents.
Many people found this ad racist but I also saw some comments claiming that getting married was 'respectability politics' and some kind of alternative family configuration with no dad but lot's of aunties and uncles who may not be biological relatives is more 'authentically black'. I have heard this is a hangover from slavery where men were encouraged to have as many kids as possible with multiple women.
I simply do not understand why we think families in which fathers are not full time members (or there at all) is anything but sub optimal. Why do we think it's ok for fathers to have kids with multiple different women who they see at best a day or two a week? Why can't we see that this is leading to bad outcomes? Why are women so keen to bring up children alone? Why does BLM US think that the nuclear family is anti-black?
If I was straight I would not dream of having a child with somebody who was not a long term partner.
It is clear that there is an element of the black community in which being a criminal is glamorised. You see this in the fashions, kids walking around in all black, hood on and bum hanging out. I feel so sorry for these kids I see around London. I almost want to give them a slap and say 'pull your trousers up'.
I have no idea how to fix our community but the first step has to be acknowledging we have a problem and realising that only we can solve it.
I agree with everything you said and I've been saying the same thing for years. I can't believe that in 2024, Caribbeans in the UK are still having kids with no planning, no marriage or even a stable relationship. Two parents in the home supporting each other and raising children together provides the best outcomes. Your comments about criminality in the community also resonate; we need to bring back shame. Lastly, your point about the youth culture; the dress code, music, attitude. It's frankly embarrassing. We need to talk about this and acknowledge it publicly, but the majority of Caribbeans are not ready for this harsh reality. Most still prefer to blame everything on da Whyte man.
Members of our own community often being the victims is so real.
Im a pretty blk gurl and hv been a target of 3nvy from many blk females i don't even know.
The j3al0usy is insane
I dont understand why some blk ppl do this. Why can't we just live in peace and harmony
@@Coco-uk9tv This. Idk if ur Caribbean but as an east african its refrshing to see a caribbean with this mindset
Many caribbeans especially the youth born in the uk tend to hv these behaviours in comparison to african youth. We need to bring Jesus Christ back into the centre of our lives, too many blk ppl out here living godlessly which is sad to see bc its just a never ending cycle of destruction
This comment needs to be pinned !
Yep most blk ppl are in denial with alot of things and have a victim mentality from young
Putting aside how we're treated by other races we also have os much to deal with within our own communities
Thank you for this. Parents PLEASE share this to EVERYONE!
Thank you so much for this video . I have been saying this for a long time but mainly based on my own experiences. But the stats a pretty damming. Keep up the good work brother . I will try to support you in anyway possible
@@duvalSSS Thank you family 🙏🏿
Grew up in Dulwich. Didn't get on with the black community as a child, so moved to Devon at 19, in 2008. Never been around black people since, so this channel is eye opening.
It appears nothing has changed since I left 16 years ago.
Interesting. In what way have things not changed?
What ? Dulwich had completely changed since 08😂😂😂😂😂do you live in a cave. Do you know the crime drop in Peckham since 015 dropped massively
@@Democratshell So black community is perfect in Peckham? stop living in denial, you are part of the problem
There's no black community at all. There's just foolishness and awkwardness festered
What's the point of your comment? It adds nothing to the conversation.
Big man keep these coming we need to hear about more of these topics so we can reach out to our black youths, there the future 🫡🙏🏾
Everything you said is facts especially about the parents saying he was a good boy that just tells me the problem started at home mum and dad can’t control their son and don’t know what he does which means they don’t talk or do anything together when that happens the streets become the son’s parents
It's crazy yet funny... That yout was moving like the seed of Lucifer, disrupting the classroom and teachers tried to tell the parents... But they are "good boys". Ridiculous 😂
This is neglect.
This just reminds of everything Chris Kaba's family said about him before we all saw the videos of him sho oting into crowds of innocent people (no way justifying him being taken out, just making a point).
@@cd6741 only solution is having a better family unit you know we can have a broken family with still being in a family
Enjoying your videos. It’s clear that you care and are trying to really get to grips with the cause of these issues.
If you look at the data before you get to these datasets it’s not a surprise you get these figures.
The higher proportion of exclusion whether that’s financial, social, educational etc will only lead to negative outcomes.
The girls that are suffering are seemingly invisible because they are not committing the serious violence or presenting via drill videos etc. They are there though just like the boys and struggling with the same initial issues but facing different challenges.
Don’t ignore that many of the parents of these young people have also struggled and been let down by the same systems. Looking to them to solve the issues with their children you are looking in the wrong place.
The safety nets that should be there to catch our children that need it are outdated, uninformed and underfunded. They do not understand or cater for those that are most vulnerable.
Unless you work directly with the young people being spoken about here the role that SEN plays in a huge percentage of their journeys is not being seen or understood. Even those that do often focus on other things that do not drive behaviour but are a result of it.
Without context and nuance this is not an easy issue to grasp which is why you get all of the headlines about stop and search, taking away the knives, longer sentences, banning drill etc. if you understand what’s behind it all you will know that those measures will not provide anything other than a band-aid.
This will never stop until blk people look in the mirror.
There is so much at play here and thank you for highlighting a problem that definitely needs solving.
Another excellent video that needs to be shared and discussed. We have to stop burying our heads in the sand because its gone beyond too late.
Patents saying their child was a good boy.....when they have been to custody several times, those parents need to accept the truth first to be able to address the problem.
We know what we need to do but we just need to do it.
Strong marriages and providing stability, safe home and environment.
Discipline in the home from and early age.
Books in the home, reading to your child, going to museums and libraries....providing cultural capital. Not allowing them to play on the estate all day, letting the estate raise your child or allowing youtube do so.
Get them involved in football and a martial arts to give them confidence.
Stop awarding bad behaviour or behaviour that disrespect teachers and people in authority. Be active in their school and go to parents evening.
Another thing i am seeing is people wanting to say its not us its those over there. Not my country or island. I got news for you. It is. Its a cancer that has infected black boys in this country even when they come from good homes.
These stats are also being used against us all to say we are no good and to push a far right wing agenda.
@@indexfinisher This comment is stacked with great points!
This is such important information and i thank you for it. However, one observation, the music was so distracting, it isn't necessary. So I couldn't finish watching even though I so wanted to as it was giving me a headache. But appreciated what I heard. ❤❤
Great stuff Ely. It’s good to bring attention to the harsh reality of the crime stats. It is something that must be Confronted to make things better
Thanks man. Yep, ignoring this stuff won't make it go away. In fact, ignoring it is helping to perpetuate it.
Thak you for this video...we need to focus on more important things to get them to succeed going foward.
Very good take I enjoyed your perspective on the issue. Also the fact that when any crime happens. The “native” population loves to scream “usual suspects”, however the data does suggest a trend. It stems way before our time why it’s turned out like this
No, now you’re just using excuses for bad behaviour today. That’s the reason you have been stuck in this same loop for your entire life. You are not the only people who have ever been dealt a bad hand. The problem is, you all keep perpetuating the same cycle that has never worked for you and you keep avoiding the obvious. And the usual suspects thing, though it is outdone, it generally does have some weight to it. Take accountability or you will never leave the hole you are in.
Every black person needs to study Dr Amos Wilson, explains this phenomenon perfectly
I have travelled the world seen extremities in poverty Young people here are pampered and do not have a sense of duty and responsibilty..Every one is thugged out walking around with 200 pound trainers ..
If your target audience is families of black boys, it’d be helpful if you could go into more detail on what family members can do to prevent their son / brother from getting recruited into a gang etc. So how exactly are parents failing at the moment and what can they do differently.
The channel “Juicell Ducati” talks about this topic as well, addressing boys specifically.
The solution is simple community community community the only reason black boys get into gangs is because they have no community and have this pressure to be “sucessful” If we started letting black boys be human and stop enforcing male ideals on what that can couldn't be and let them find there authentic community they would be able to find themselves and there interest and the ideals of gangs wouldn't be needed
Poverty is the biggest factor. Until then government actually fix the poverty issues in the uk don't be surprised at gangs.
Am saying this as an 18 year old black British guy older people need to listen to the youth and stop trying to fix the community using politics and respectability shit and just listen to the youth and
LET KIDS BE KIDS.
I was 9 year old and my father started putting these ideas in my head. Do you know how fcked up it Is to tell you kid don't cry boys don't cry?
PARENTS HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR KIDS. Shouting and “parenting” is not the same as having a relationship with your child
This is great work, sobering but essential. Another great TH-cam vid on the plight of young men more generally is ‘the men - and boys - are not alright’ by Richard Reeves in a discussion on the Ezra Klein show on the NYT.
@@John-op6bc Thanks, I'll check it out. The more I look into this stuff, the more empathy I have for these youngsters, boys, and girls.
Black Boys need an industry where they can (obviously legal) have a sense of what profession they will end up doing after there education. If the father is a carpenter e.g. the young boy will be given a guide line into what he can partake in what is not permitted in order to essentially survive but what we see today is people who are not really looking into there background and seeing the larger picture of who they actually are.
In England... Black people, especially boys, are incredibly under represented in industry. Where are we supposed to find such opportunities for our sons?
Lol... that’s hilarious...
Generally parents (good parents, or maybe those with time or space while working two jobs) hold the wish that their children attain higher education levels than themselves, followed by higher skilled and better paid work.
Studies and statistics show that when African and Caribbean students successfully graduate with 1st class or 2nd class honours degrees their paths into promised careers meets the barrier of racism. If these knowledgable graduates are motivated to start their own business, loan applications again often meet rejection and ‘bank of mum and dad’ may not have that inherited wealth to help out. Often neither does the father have that secure work situation or connected network of brothers in varied businesses in a position to apprentice the non-academic black boys. So yes agreed it’s a chronic vicious circle.
There’s an industry that feeds off our disenfranchised positions as Black people in the UK and elsewhere. It’s not a new ting but understanding it is a long ting for even some older heads. As youngsters we want the fame, the easy money, immediate gratification, and now with entertainment and social media it’s that much more difficult for traditional narratives of ‘staying in your lane’ the long road and sacrifice for success to penetrate the minds of too large a proportion of Black/African young men. Instead we get ‘no snitching’, ‘street life/on road/my ends’, and ‘dem man fi…!
@@petermollo1908nothing will be handed to you in this life. Look around you
@@petermollo1908under represented by choice, they would rather sell drugs, there’s nothing stopping them getting honest jobs
Most black boys or children are not taught the fear of the Lord at home and in churches.
Very interesting and educational content for me (white middle aged woman). New subbie now 😊
Appreciate you
@@IntrovertMaxxing Much love bro. Thank you 🙏🏿
The Bashy track is a great shoutout, it’s so relevant and true.
Can we talk about the adult preditors that prey on our you g boys? These men are everywhere and for every "big man" there are as dozens of kids being imprisoned or killed. County lines are one scheme used.
This has been happening gor yeears i am nearly 40 but when i was in school a boy that was in my year was preyed upon and killed before his 18th birthday
@@1985MrFRESH Very important topic to cover for sure. I don't think many adults realise that sort of thing goes on.
The adults are either naive or damn right stupid. All these big men driving £90k cars even though they've never worked a day in Thier6 lives are the place to start.
Yet those 'big men' are held up as heroes and victims, exploiting children like it's ok for them.
Who are the ones who are killing them? You mean each other?
@@elywananda- they do realise. They just don't care enough to do anything about it.
County lines have literally been talked about on the front page of the Daily Mail. If we don't know about this, it's because we don't want to know.
We hopped up off the settee and went out on the streets quick enough when it was Black Lives Matter though.
Excellent analysis bro! 👏🏾
@@michaelekowrichardson2491 Thank you Ekow ✊🏿🖤
I once wrote a journal titled 'The Miseducation of black boys'. Music, absent fathers and toxic masculinity are some of the things I wrote.
Also we have to go with more aspirational career choices. I'm tired of youths going for music and sports choices.
Urban culture has also robbed black boys of an alternative especially when they're not strong minded.
You are right if you got a black teenager boy with the bicycle and he his not around at home or comes back home late! Rise your eyes and find out what is doing and check his friends too!
We need to get rid of the music glorifying the type of culture that's not based in pushing education as a route to success; we don't hear music called gansta metal or gansta rock. I'd even go so far as to say I'd prefer my kids to listen to classical music! We need our own schools taught by men(black) until we can sort out the issue with single parenthood! I do believe our boys need tough love and guidance to keep them on the right track!
Hard to get rid of considering we are not the one's funding these types of music, nor are we the main audience.. the last thing I think BBs need is more tough love.. they get a lot of that already, and it doesn't work. I agree with more black men in education
@@chikawambu774 I don't agree that black boys get tough love anymore the government put a stop to that years ago! I've raised 4 so I know! As for the music, we as parents need to turn our kids against it from an early age by doing so we will confine it to the dust bin of history where it belongs.
@@timojazz6829 The music wouldn't be nearly as problematic if our children were in safe environments with nurturing and supportive families around them.
@@elywananda Totally agree! I was raised singlehandedly by my dear mother. I'd tried to give my four boys what I had missed, a father. Thankfully my efforts paid off.
@@elywananda Great information brother!
Just subscribed! Great video and love the rest of your channel too!😊
Problem stems deep, for a lot of people, it's a lack of a nuclear family status. Single parent kids, historic involvement in crime & gang violence, being surrounded in a negative ghetto environment with toxic people, status of repping your postcode, drill music further increasing acts of violence in postcode wars. Endless cycle of rinse & repeat. No one is educating the next generation & no one is willing to change, unfortunately it'll take centuries to iron out these issues, as simply there is no unity, only division & conquer amongst the same ethnicity which is just sad.
Take these high profiles troubled footballers Jesse Lingard, Deli Ali, Nile Ranger Marcus Radford,Jason Sancho. Where are their fathers. Look at Jude Bellingham and Bukayo Saka. You know where their fathers are and just how stable and consistent the whole family model is .
Good video. Every community has issues and there should be no stigma to address those issues in a constructive manner.
Yes but every other community seems to progress forward more than the blk one
The environment from all angles reinforces this negative construct. Anything that is not "street" is seen as lame. I work alongside brothers that themselves have children coming into there teenage years and still venerate the "street". Men approaching 40 are still dressing like they are 15 and equally overly concerned with what trainers they/you are wearing. I think part of real growing up is leaving impulsive ego behind you and being humble. Unfortunately the culture we currently inhabit has such a self perpetuating nature to it.
Great video as always!
Parenting, Families as well as communities are, in my opinion, a major factor here. I think the data makes it clear, particularly with your other posts Ely. And from what I can see in social media, family is not being promoted - quite the opposite. So I guess the question is, what can we as BP do about it? I guess this is a generational change - one child / family at a time?
@@alanzoblackstock I think that last sentence is the key. It's a long game. Start with ourselves and then those who we have influence over.
The burden falls at the feet of black fathers/men to make change. My husband migrated to UK & set up a business in South London, he discovered grown men, grandfathers in the community orchestrating criminal behaviour, exploiting young men & putting them in harms way. It will take black men being prepared to sacrifice time & energy to pour into the lives of their own children & children who are not theirs to make a change. Two parent homes are not a magic bullet, I grew up in a two parent home with a man who stayed for what he could get out & not what he could contribute.A huge shift from the selfish mentality to community minded by blk men is required if we want to build & elevate our situation.
@@shazj1842 Wholeheartedly agree. I see greatness in our boys (and girls), but too few of we grownups are giving them the tools to unlock that greatness within.
Ely, you read my mind.
We are all individuals and we can choose to do right or wrong. I and my close friends all come from poor black families, single parented but we realised from a young age that education and proper family planning were the ways out of poverty. One of my friends is now the owner of a successful AI company and I remember when he was young sometimes his mom didn't have the money to pay the electric bill and he would do his homework and studies by candle light. We all lived in Brent and could of chosen the road man/gangster life style.
No matter how dire you upbringing is you can always choose to do the right thing.
As for parents we need to remember that a lot of our parents received harsh decipline for their parents. My grand father came from jamaica in 60s and had his children (my uncles, aunts and mother) in the UK. But he raised them with that harsh jamaican parenting style where he would excessively beat them - it would be classed as child abuse today. Some of them were able to overcome that physical trauma whereas others are still suffering from the effects (mental health) today.
I think we'll always have those type of men who are happy to impregnate multiple women and not play any part in their childrens life and we'll always have women that will be happy to be made pregnant by such men and repeat the cycle for generations.
despite the drill music, crime and single parent families and child can still prosper if they choose to.
I don't believe in free choice/free will. This whole thing is predetermined. All fate. You didn't choose anything; good or bad. Just the SAME % no matter how you slice it.
@@ibizawavey8630 Intresting sentiment what is your definition of free will?
hey ELY! I'm Aboriginal Australian. I support my AFRICAN BROTHERS! European males enslaved, colonized and subjugated our people for over three generations! European men tried to breed the melanin out of our skin! I respect you for speaking out for the oppressed people globally, much love man...!
Check out the Arab ☪️🕌🕋👳🏼 slave trade greatest genocide towards black people and others. Black people are low in numbers in Muslim countries compared to the transatlantic trade ⛓️
I hope you guys get your country back... Europeans complaining about immigration while taking over lands and still there
LIAR!
@@pduffy421 Which part? His support of Ely? Cause a cursory glance at history will prove him right
@@sunrise2148 Yes, the colonizer must be referring to me saying “I support my African brothers”, he think I’m lying about that. If not, the colonizer is just deluding himself to soothe his own ego.
This is a continued topic that we need to move on from- previous generations have said the same. We need to organise it is that simple. There are enough of us millenials now that have the skills to put together a "quiet group" to truly influence change. Or we'll just have the same conversations until I'm 75 (currently 35).
I think the figures would be different if it was separated by country of origin, there are a lot of black people who came as refugees from different parts of Africa, and they get caught up in a cycle of poverty and crime because they aren't properly integrated ,they live within their communities ,if you put unskilled and less educated men together it leads to drugs and crimes . And this is the case not just for Africans but also middle eastern , gypsy migrants in Europe. So migrants in Europe need to create good communities for bussiness and to help develop eachother like the indians.
*separated by income
I don't think country of origin or immigration category would make much difference. These are red herrings that divert us from addressing the issues at hand.
@elywananda If we deal with the underlying problem: socioeconomic problem, we can deal with it. The Scottish did.
We need to talk about the older predictors that prey on the young black men to do their dirty duties. County lines being one such scheme. For every one "big man" there are dozens of little boys being killed and imprisoned. But everyone is scared to stand up to these guys.
We’re talking about blk people... stay on topic
We need better media representation. Why is the entertainment industry the largest media representation of black people. Why not normal blacks.
So you can all worship Cardi B and Lil Wayne
@@Debbi.O if we want better representation in the media then we need to fund it. Yt media has a narrative they wish to perpetuate.
That's never gonna happen until WE make our own media that we control.
The media is controlled by Wyt Liberals who are obsessed with portraying Black people as Gay. That's all they care about - BM being Gay. And if you object to these representations they will accuse you of being a reverse racist.
@cd6741
Facts
No we need black owned media with everyday black families.
“I wouldn’t mention names"= Chris Kaba
This is she exact same situation with black boys & men in the US! Exact same! At this point we need to discuss that it just might be something in their DNA!
It is not a genetic problem. It is one of black fathers not being in the house and heading the household. Once a man is iut of the house he has to fight to get back into contact with his kids. All women can play the parental alienation game against the father. The father then has to resist the urge to just walk away. I fought very hard and even took her to court!
@ sounds good but studies so that when black guys still have a father in the home they still do NOT do as well as them white counterparts. This is not the case for black girls.
@@colinw7479 so why are so many black men not able to lead their homes? Why do they keep making broken homes knowing this is the outcome. Also, stats show even with two parents and middle income households black boys still do not do as well as their peers. This is NOT the case for black females. There is an issue with black boys and men that need to be addressed! Not every woman is holding her child from the father and like you said you did have to fight and you have right to be in your child’s life. If you cared you get your child regardless of circumstances
Then how do you explain this:" In 2005, Glasgow was named the ‘murder capital of Europe" and was cured like a disease, by treating underlying issues such as poverty. Yes it was mainly white men, and multiple ethnicities have done acts of violence throughout history. While not making excuses for people, I can see more crime and homelessness now for many ethnicities now that the economic situation is worse.
Imagine being a black boy and your Mum holds this belief !
Bashys album is Unreal the best so far, it explains and provides clear analysis
Materiel greed as replaced love, we need to have conversation with our children. Be present and extra vigilant, I am a detective I know where my King's are on the daily basis, I do the best I can.
@@WhereDeyAt Right. I think this is the key. Talking with our children and listening carefully to them. Getting to really know them and relentlessly coaching them day after day, guiding them as they learn about themselves and the world around them. As I read around, the lack of parental supervision is a key risk factor for children getting involved in crime and gangs. We have to be there for them, and we need to plan in advance before having children to make sure we'll be able to do that.
Ely is a nice man... I however am not. We have the worst parents, and this is the root of all of this imo. But we are raised to not be critical of our parents and elders.
But thats just the trauma by way of emotional and physical abuse.
So many of our homes are ran by single mothers. Im not here to blame women for being in this situation - i believe its both men and womens fault - but how can you effectively supervise adolescent boys who live in a ghettoised environment? When theres no father in the home, you have no defence.
Further to that, women will bring in step dads wnd many of these will be abusive and without a natural care for her kids... Further sending these children off the edge.
But we will blame everything else (things that are valid) BUT our family planning and parenting skills. Have three kids with three different men... Blame ra cism.
You're more direct and pull less punches (ironic, given your martial arts skill!). All roads lead to parenting without a shadow of a doubt (in my mind at least).
Have three kids by three different men? Hhmm. The three men injecting their DNA in a women with multiple kids for different men, is to blame too right? Both parties should be held accountable and bare equal responsibility. 🙏🏿
@elywananda 😂😂 damn must be instinctual. But, like you, I just want to see us do better. We deserve better... A fighting chance for a good life.
I think you are the best person to talk about these issues. You understand the issues but you also have diplomacy. It's not much but every post you make will be met with a super thanks as a gesture to my appreciation of you. 🤝🏿
And men often have several children with different women. However, the difference is, women stick around and raise the children whilst fathers are almost completely absent, and show little to no care/support to the mothers or children. Yet we wonder why it’s the boys without fathers and role models who are out of control, and the girls seem to get along fine. It’s because girls have their mothers as role models and boys are abandoned, left with nothing to model themselves on.
Nearly all the boys you see in gangs have absent fathers.
@@IntrovertMaxxing Yeah I tip toe around to get points across 🤣 You're more like "shut up and listen." We'll cover all the bases with our different approaches. Hopefully we're helping to make a difference.
Good video. One thing you didnt mention is many black females glorify the thug bad boy and are attracted to these types of males, this is a reason why some men choose the street lifestyles than pursuers of academics.
So you're saying that blk men will literally do anything in the pursuit of s*x, no matter what the cost is to their race, their community, their family or even themselves?
Also, many blk boys who end up as criminals were not actually born to criminal fathers. Which means that their mothers were not attracted to thugs.
I believe our challenges stem primarily from the socioeconomic class and mindset we predominantly belong to. By collectively climbing the socioeconomic ladder (becoming scientists, entrepreneurs, and engineers) we would be navigating away from these problems.
It takes self discipline, hard work and a willingness to take constructive criticism to become a scientist or engineer over several years. Also, if you work for a corporate you have to be a team player and be receptive to feedback from peers and seniors. Most black boys fall short of any or all of these attributes which is why street and gang life is so attractive to them. They get to make up their own rules and if they disagree with the slightest diss, for want of a better word, their answer is to take that person out. Edit. No talking, no problem solving, no introspection. The very soft skills needed by the professions you mentioned.
Absolutely not 😂 I'm sorry but you see this problem worldwide. They can't out masculine the majorities males (WM) in money and influence so they do it with violence and crime. It's not an accident it's male animals trying to display dominance in a society that wasn't created for nor by them. Climbing as a group will be difficult.
@@Coco-uk9tv- thank you! Not many blk people have the guts to admit this.
There is also the fact that this life gives them an adrenaline rush and a sense of power that they can't get anywhere else.
There is also the fact that blk men are even more likely to choose non black partners as they climb the social ladder.
Black women (and by extension black children) are much less likely to see a return on their investment than women of any other race, which is one of reasons why poverty in the blk community is still so pervasive.
It's also one of the reasons why many bw are choosing to go child free.
Also, blk men across all social strata are much less likely to be married and much more likely to have out of wedlock children.
That doesn't seem to change no matter what their educational or financial status is.
Similar in the US. The stats make it appear that Black men are more prone to criminality, the reality is they are targeted and not only have a higher conviction rate but harsher sentencing. This creates higher recidivism. It makes for an unpleasant generational pattern.
No excuse. The black culture mostly value rap, sports and the "playa" lifestyle. Blacks are dangerous in Canada too. They kill each other at clubs merely because one black guy looked at the other the "wrong" way.
I work as a manager for a large retail store. And when I started, I would get so pissed at the blatant racial profiling that occurs when a black male enters the store. Even the black employees will report thats theres suspected shoplifter over the headset when some black males ( and black females) enter the shop. After five years on the job I have changed so much that I call security as well .... and we're black! there has been so many times that I've tried to give us the benefit of doubt and challenged people on their blatant racism and have ended up with egg on my face because the suspect ended up stealing. Now when I'm followed in a store, i get annoyed but I get it because I see the other side. I've seen that of the 6 shoplifters that day, 4 have been black. Ive seen my security beaten by a black man because he's tried to take the stock back, I've been treathened and spat at by my own people.
Having someone steal from your place of work or committing crimes in your community will make anyone pissed and prejudiced.
I say all this to say, yes youre right, we are profiled and targeted, but as a minority in predominantly white countries, we have to start doing better. There just seem to be a race to the bottom for us black people while other minority groups are trying to capitalise off us and elevate themselves.
This is only a partial answer. The disparities are so large that we must be committing crime at a higher rate from the start.
Of course the police are going to focus their energies on the areas where there is the most crime.
The stats make it appear that way because it actually IS that way.
As a bw, I'm no longer moved by these tales of woe. Especially when bw have to bear the brunt of much of this activity.
@@DaRealist213 Depending on the neighborhood you're in, crime will be a reflection of that group.
We used to say while security is concentrating their attention on us white folks are boosting stuff from the stores. That's the issue with profiling, you see what you are looking for.
It all starts at HOME, and sadly too many of our boys are growing up on the streets. If you have parents that have not been taught the importance of education then they will not be able to instill that in their own children. So many of us care more about our appearance than we do education. Many parents from an early age are dressing kids in designer clothes, why? instead read to your child and focus on education not wearing labels, not hairstyles, not music. Education.
People moan that our kids have nothing to do after school? unless you're an A* student you have plenty to do, educate yourself. Now some will say the education system is set up against us, education is not the sole reserve of schools, just reading everyday will exercise your mind. In this day and age its so easy to teach yourself things.
The focus should never be on fast money but education and understanding the simple legal ways to make money, yes it will take some years to master but what is the hurry? slow down and take time. Learn to stand on your own and not be a follower of others.
Parents, have to be parents, if a parent cannot instill the correct values into their children, then it will be left to society to clean up after them and we will all suffer. Good parents can raise their children to become great young adults, but it only takes one encounter with a child that hasn't been raised correctly and a life can be lost over something very very petty.
As a father It scares me having a son growing up in London, he started secondary school this year and this is a pivotal point in a black boys life. I am doing the best i can for my son, but this is a collective problem. I do not live in bubble, so I think we the PARENTS need to come together and create some form of unity amongst us and do things where we can only attend if we bring our children.
We need to let them come together from all sorts of areas and do things in the presence of us the parents.
I see this with other cultures but usually done under the umbrella of a religion, we need a way of gathering for a common good without a religion.
I'm just thinking out loud here but I am so happy I have found your channel.
I have often said things about the "no snitching" rules which to me is just a way that we protect the what i call cancer in our communities.
Unlike other cultures and groups we seem to want to protect our cancer and give it a secure environment to grow, instead of removing it.
Spot on
This has nothing to do with education. Absent/toxic fathers cut across all social strata in the blk community.
What happened to the wind rush generation, when there were families; Dad, mum and kids. The Dad’s worked hard and so did the women they brought up their children well but the generations after messed up.
People like to paint a rosy picture of the Windrush. Yes, believe it or now, things were better then in terms of community. However, it was during this time that many Caribbean walked out on their families, never to return. The women were left alone to raise their children alone, and from then on the rot set in. Remember the educationally subnormal label, Sus Laws, blatant racism, out of wedlock children, multiple kids for different women. This is how it all started.
@@Coco-uk9tv- and multiple children for different men also, even back then.
@@Coco-uk9tv- most of this actually started back in the Caribbean. And let's not forget the DV too.
you do important work
Hi @Elywananda, good episode. I enjoy your content because it touches on many important issues facing our communities. Black communities are at the sharp end of the criminal justice system and only by understanding the data can we understand the cause, effect and impact of crime on us (both as victims and perpetrators). Data is also useful for uncovering the solutions to how we tackle some of the biggest challenges our communities face. The Lammy Review recommendations are a good start at a criminal justice level if they are implemented. But we all need to delve deeper into why our Black boys are over-represented in crime stats and lower educational quartiles. My local authority has a Black Boys Scrutiny committee dedicated to data collection and recommending policy changes at a local level to improve the life chances of Black boys, it's not perfect but it's a start. Keep up the good work!
We don't need to delve any deeper. We've been regurgitating the same taking points for literally half a century now.
What we need is action, but this has always been our weakness.
This content needs to collaborate with Glodi Wabelua... this may push a positive message towards the community
There is no nice way to put this. There are too many adults, parents and children who have absolved responsibility for their actions. It is always someone else’s fault.
The girls pick unsuitable partners and are not emotionally or financially in a position to raise the child and then go on to have more, who continue the cycle.
The boys are too busy listening to music/social media that gives them the outlook that there is nothing for them. Rather than use the tools available to them to be the best version of themselves. Some parents have conditioned their children to believe that as soon as something does not go their way, they should give up and turn to criminal activities. On top of that rather than keep what they are doing on the down low, they go onto social media bragging about what they have done. London is the most CCTV'd place. Just because a police officer is not there does not mean that they won't get caught, which sooner or later they do.
The difference between US and UK is that in the US they lock up black men for life. In the UK you are released after a few years with a criminal record. Once you have a criminal record it is exceptionally difficult to shake it off and progress with your adult life.
If you think it is bad now. I predict that in the next 5 years black men in particular will become increasing homeless and suffer from increasing mental health issues as parents throw them out of the family home and they have not made stable relationships with the mothers of their children.
Not sure what the answer is but I do know that the 'black' people who I know who are doing well (including single parents) studied hard and are in decent salaried jobs, moved away from certain areas, put their children into the best local state schools and spent time with their children. They didn't run up to the school screaming at the teachers, if given a detention, more worked alongside the school to resolve issues. They also had them in after school activities, to try to keep them away from individuals who did not share the same morals/standards.
Sadly all these things are our own doing. No one is coming to save anybody
I am happy to see that the focus is on black men because realistically black young women are doing very well for themselves out there in the world. Successful careers, business and successful in their education. Black women are pulled towards the dark side but we are able to resist that dark life probably because of the mother-daughter bond. A son won’t have that same bond with his mother. Sons need their fathers, to be there and to be present!!
Black women are also struggling often in invisible or overlooked ways. This conversation is about black men and very much needed but black women die x3 more than our counterparts and we have high levels of stress, anxiety and obesity. We are not ok.
@@SA-xc9hzp- but those issues usually stem from those same men.
The only reason we are able to resist the dark side (to a certain extent) is because we are adultified and held to a higher standard from a very early age.
Most bw do not have an actual bond with their mothers.
It's your choice as a human how you act, as it tells your kids how to react and how it affects the children they have to act, blacks are over represented in all violent crime, its been this way for decades, the reason is biology and culture,if you didn't commit crimes the justice system wouldn't touch you, thanks for trying to to draw attention to this
Great video bro
Fathers are key to this positive in the home fathers
It really is a function of economics tbh.
The numbers in crime rates will correlate with the amount of economic ownership in the country. In short black people have failed to gain ownership of businesses and property in this country and cannot give anything to our own.
That is the no.1 problem.
We dont even own the shops that supply our hair! Let alone corner shops in our communities or other types of businesses that sustain our communities and give opportunities to our young people.
This is the result. Every other immigrant community establishes an economic footprint through business ownership. First with supplying their own communities and then the wider population. We have done nothing like that in 50yrs here.
The other stat that should be produced is how many young people need to ask a person of another race for their first job? What is that ratio? So if you are a young black person who has to go outside of your community to eat, what's the chances you will end up doing something criminal instead?
Everything is economics first, and I doubt there is any social change that can happen without addressing the economics.
That's not true. You know countries, including Africa with disadvantages tribes or communities. They are not necessarily the most criminals
I have thought about this after that Peckham hair salon incident last year. Everyone was complaining about racist Asian shop owners and I thought to myself, why are shops serving the black community not owned by black people?
Asians came here with nothing and suffered as much racism as we did.
@@extrude22- because blk people don't like each other. The sense of community that people talk about was in fact forced proximity.
And because bm were too busy chasing women & making unwanted children to bother building any kind of infrastructure for their own community. They saw no shame in seeing their women go to the Indian man to buy black hair products and black food.
The system is set up to disenfranchise black boys. I grew up in Tottenham in the 90s my education was destroyed after all the good teachers left the school a year after I started year 7 .. the school was 90 % black .I didn't get it fixed til I moved to a school in a more white area
@@eggonegg If things are bad in certain areas, I personal think it's on parents to relocate their families. Yes it'll mean being separate from networks, but in the long run it will be for the best.
@elywananda agree , I moved to Norway about 10 years ago. My kids don't have to worry about getting stabbed. Funny when my sierraleonean parents wanted a better life so came to London, then I wanted better so moved to Norway.
Reminds me of my upbringing, Lived in Lewisham through the 90s to 2001, then moved up north and it was in a predominately white area. It was a struggle at first but as i get older i understand why my folks moved me and my sis up there. It was a crucial phase of our development to not only integrate but focus on our education and not to be dragged down by other blacks, unfortunately.
I know lots of successful black people that have come out of Tottenham, the people who made no excuses and took the better path.
@@eggonegg Even that decision YOU 'think' you made, was made for you. If you're honest with yourself, you'll get to the conclusion that a thought popped into your head one way or another, a hunch or a 'gut feeling' lol people take pride or put themselves down over something they had nothing to do with. Either way, congrats whatever drove you to norway wanted you out of a bad situation.
I’m really sorry, but outside Stratford tube I see groups of them acting all Road Men like - using the tube without paying (I see a lot of this in the Dalston Overground stations) and other people avoid them with angry, negative vibes.
It’s almost like the kids are cultivating the mistrust and anxiety they cause older people…, is this anxiety considered Racist?
It starts with the family structure, then we move onto stereotypes, then there's police profiling.
If as adults we're able to navigate our children through all these hoops and obstacles, something Asians also have to deal with, but to a lesser extent, then we are really starting to address the problems, but we must have honest conversations with the younger generation.
Let's also remember that parents are sometimes the kids worst enemy, by setting atrocious standards of behaviour that are mimicked by their offspring.
Asian is a wide demographic of people
It’s a real shame how boys from poor backgrounds, both black and white who have been forgotten. Eduction is failing them as it’s based around how girls think. I was very lucky. Got a break through the RAF but many aren’t. The loss of family is a major issue. We are missing out on a great group of people who have so much to offer society.
What’s based on what girls think? 😮
Sir 😂
@ education. Can you not read. The education system is based around the female brain. It’s a known problem. Males tend to need more practical based education whereas females respond better to formal academic style,which is what most schools have. Is that easy enough for you?
@ and don’t call me sir. I turn around looking for my dad.
Right, a waste of human potential. Education should be able to engage all kids but it's a big 'sausage factory' as King Charles once put it. Some do ok with that, some can think more for themselves and have awareness beyond the curriculum and get disillusioned too young. Curriculum is too broad, teachers not trained to handle challenging behaviour skillfully. The blame doesn't lie with children.
@@moonbaby6134 that’s if you have one but okay 😏
The government has had a big impact on breaking up the black home. Especially the Labour government who rewarded single mums with houses and benefits which encouraged kicking the man out of the home.
We can also look at the music industry which encourages gangster rap and drill. Gate keepers like Tim Westwood and Charlie Sloth have young black kids on their show promoting killing / drug dealing / gangster / drill music.
The labour government has not been in charge of the country for the last 14 years, this seems like a rehash of the American trope of black welfare queen stereotype (which is bull**) that right wingers like to use. My question to you is why are you using this? what's your agenda?
I'm sick of hearing/reading the bs from the manosphere re "welfare took black fathers out of the home". Black fathers up and left. Walked out. Abdicated. Abandoned. It's been going on for generations and at least for Caribbeans it started around the Windrush. At that time there was no such thing as welfare, not substantially anyway. Both parents started off together married and both worked to make ends barely meet. Child benefit was paid for one child only, and was introduced before Windrush because white husbands used to spend their weekly wages on beer and not their kids, so the government stepped in and gave the money direct to the mothers. Back to Caribbeans, the men left, mostly for white women. Caribbean mothers remained in the home struggling, whilst WORKING, to raise their kids. Sadly, the sons of these single mothers, did not marry, went onto create single mother homes too, and or dated white women exclusively. The cycle has repeated over the decades. But let's get one thing straight, Caribbeans in this country have historically rejected welfare, they see it as a stigma. The majority of them men and women went out to work for their living; none of them sat at home idle all day collecting benefits. So don't come with the bs. The men left of their own volition. No one forced them. It was the case then, and it's the same today.
Excuses excuses 😅
Honestly, just stop
@@ruthmchuwenexactly 🙄
@ruthmchuwen
I’m speaking facts! What’s your theory then?
Great video I really enjoyed this.
As a woman of white skin,as a woman Who believes in Jesus we also need to realise this is spiritual, we asko need to eake up that not all but some blacks are the true Israelites the Bible is your history so the devils wont you killing esch other breaking God laws
Israelites were not Africans. Can we stop the pandering to make everyone feel special? If Asians had been enslaved either, you'd be saying that about them too.
First step, stop blaming everyone else ,
For real who raised these men..
Single mothers...
@@Factz_over_emotionsSo all single mothers are to blame, not the fathers who abandoned their boy children? Btw, Chris Kaba came from a two parent home.
Ely I saw your video pop and to be honest I was too scared to view it. Unfortunately we are back here again discussing the issue with young black male counterparts. This is a massive topic and the sad fact is that parents who were born in the UK and went on to have children did not learn from their own experiences with schooling and social mobility. Simple rules were not applied always achieve better than your parents. If your parents did not buy house then you buy a house, if went to an underperforming school make sure your children don't etc you get where I'm coming from. Living in the inner-city has not done black families any favors. Then we add absent fathers then add mothers who stop children from seeing their children. If you did not purchase a what are your children going to inherit. These are the basic foundations and I know things don't always go according to these rules. Self-esteem issues, worthless, not knowing what it is to be a man. Don't think that I'm pointing fingers as I'm a product of single parent household. I found out around 5 years ago that I have an older sister. I fully know what me can be like. My wife was on point with our children's education but that is another story. Ely I just don't know what else to say. Just let you know I'm from the the inner city like all my friends but the difference is we had sticked no nonsense Jamaican parents. I witnessed the rise of the gangs and violence which luckily we missed. Apologies Ely my comments are all over the simply because this is a huge topic and impossible to cover all bases.
Very good stuff Ely.
Thank you for this insightful analysis. I would suggest that this issue is more prevalent among Black boys of Caribbean origin. One significant factor is the lack of educational achievement, which limits their opportunities, and leads some to resort to crimes like robbery as a means of survival. In contrast, for Black boys of African origin, there is an emphasis from a young age on studying hard and pursuing higher education. Interestingly, in the Caribbean, Black boys generally take schooling seriously and tend to achieve better outcomes. It didn't seem to cross over with the windrush for reasons we could speculate. Another contributing factor is the absence of fathers or strong father figures, which is more prevalent among the Black British communities.
This has nothing to do with education. Blk boys are drawn to crime even when there is nothing wrong with their education.
And they may take education more seriously in the Caribbean, but the out of wedlock rates are still high over there. Jamaica actually has an out of wedlock rate of 90%.
an important video
but we blacks have to realise we have generational complex traumas which we
have not healed from much more even aware of
we have to heal because these traumas have brought on behaviour and personality
disorders
a child needs to attach biologically and if they have nobody they attach with their peers
please let us talk about upbringing, especially early development first before all the statistics and education
the children have to be happy, secured, listened to, develop emotionally, giving autonomy
taught to set boundaries READ sports
they don"t need to be punished but listened to above all LOVED
Well said 👍
This topic needs address quite a few issues: From my experience, and I have recordings of judges removing files in family court, and the deliberately falsified CRB, which changed to dbs around the time of myself highlighting the lies within.
We as individuals and collectively are doing a great endeavours. I've worked in youth system and it has big numbers yet 'we' are doing more productive and positive.
Yet as we stride and strive forward, we have negatives thrown at us, some don't know how to handle it, and the system fails men and the family - may I say deliberately.
Many, oops/ some of us grew up with our parents working, and both cooking and maintaining house and children. Men left the housevto women as part of uk structure yet i know stories then and now where the father has fought for the home as uk colonial mindset look to push fault and or blame upon him alone.
Often even among my friends they make sweeping false statements as though true until I ask if true for them, and that is a problem of people telling other people's events as their own.
Some of my youngers - I've worked with - are no longer here through crime. Yet for myself a lot are here and progressing.
Risk assessment of Common Purpose being racist and or adding to the problem by not recognising its misandrous bias are common.
Been fortunate to talk to Rasta, Hippy and many others about UK social services, UK family law and solicitor's bias of historical attitudes towards men and the melinated family structures.
We do reflect on the situations yet address the full 100 or this will continue if you don't address the white lies.
There needs to be a risk assessment and or acknowledgement of the racism in the system which copies and pastes colonial mentality lies into reports. I got the paperwork, experiences, recordings and rolled eyes. If you want to hear or read the lies shout me - you are welcome.
[Made these comments early, before watching in full]
Great topic, can't wait to hear what you have to say, and where I ascertain how much of the 100 you are discussing.
Halfway through: No stats on my situation: None on 'White' judge conspiring with an ex to remove facts about I had custody of our child. This situation involved smearing through paperwork by making deliberate false narrative in remarks shared to agencies, which comes under common purpose. NOTE: So some of those stats you are using for me have the white lie narrative hidden in plain sight.
NOTE further things we need to discuss: on some files it showed an entrapment to jail myself, as there is a trick out there like a honey trap, which some have fallen into.
Racism and recognising patterns in behaviour that are backed up by data are not the same thing
As a mixed-race man (half-black, half-white), I distance myself from the black community entirely.
1) I experienced racism from them growing up. Because I talked "proper" and not like a street thug and had little interest in gang culture and actions, I was told that I behaved "too white", so was ostracised and insulted. Ironically, these ignorant people did not realise they were actually insulting themselves, and also harming black culture by putting it within the exact stereotypes that they claim to hate.
2) The victim complex. I was raised by a single mother (no prizes in guessing my father was a black man, as is too common of an experience), with very little money and my mother had children for all the wrong reasons. This meant no proper support, no financial support, and little opportunities, so as a whole, I had a terrible start to life, but I got through. I am 24 now, I make £40k a year, I have a very good hybrid work balance, I rent a 2 bedroom house, so what's anyone else's excuse? Spouting all this crap about "the life chose me", and blaming literally anything except their own decisions.
Unfortunately, I can't move past the trauma associated with the horrible way I was treated. It's impossible for me to feel sympathy. I can recognise how sad it is, but I have no other frame of reference of the culture other than the way I was treated.
We're not all street urchins and "thugs"clearly someone close to you has made a bad choice. Most of my family members are university educated and are in professional roles contributing positively to society. They are also responsible. Try and get help for your issues instead of lumping us all in the same bag.
@@anngore3842 That was never said, but it's easier for you to say that than actually deconstruct me. Furthermore, I would be associated with that too. So that proves my point that mixed race people aren't considered kin by their own, yet you wonder why the cultural allies are so few?
As for your anecdote, your comment is phrased stereotypically, almost as if you are parodying: "we aren't all [insert thing here]." Is that really your best response? Comparatively, this video addresses a wider issue affecting the MAJORITY. You are demonstrating that you are ignoring everything that this video has discussed, and are invalidating struggles in favour of whataboutism. In addition to this video, here are some more depressing statistics: More than half of black children in the UK live in poverty, black people are more likely to live in areas that are underprivileged with high crime rates.
I have no issues. I simply refuse to embrace the side of my birthright culture that has from my experience been racist and in-denial. That is personal choice.
Keep refusing to admit these very real things are happening, so things can never get better.
This was precisely my experience too as a mixed race girl growing up in the 90s/early 2000s re the treatment from black people in school ect.
I really find the victim complex frustrating and frankly, infuriating. My Dad came to the UK from sierra leone with nothing, worked hard, studied at LSE and his achievements still motivate and inspire me today as a 33 year old. I simply do not sympathise with the victim narrative, it just doesn't wash with me. Take some accountability, remove the chip from your shoulder and stop blaming everything on race.
@@rainbowstormgaming- what is your relationship with your mother like now?
@rainbowstormgaming I repeat. Seek help for your issues before they destroy you. Hating on black people isn't the answer.