Four years since I commented and I'm glad to see people are the talking about this on here. The first time that I heard of AIDS was in high school in 1986. From 81 to 86, HIV/AIDS didn't get much tv coverage that I remember. There was no Internet back then. I remember watching lots of tv. Shows like Oprah Winfrey, Donahue and Geraldo Rivera. From 2016 to now, I've been really watching these documentaries and films. The best movies and films that I have seen about AIDS are; The Band Played on (1993), Normal Hearts (2014), Longtime Companion (1989), We were Here (2011), An Early Frost (1985), Fatal Love, Molly Ringwald (1992), Rock Hudson movie (1990) and documentaries on TH-cam. I was watching this series on TH-cam about young men with HIV in their 20's. I think to myself, I was writing book reports in high school in the late 80 on AIDS before those guys were born. 😒
Very, very interesting. Fewer things are as interesting as this plague. It's worse than any horror film. And this is one of the best documentaries I've seen so far.
I remember seeing a 78 year old man that caught it. His wife was screaming there is no way he could have it. We dont even have sex. A nurse took her to the side and had to explain to her that he had been having sex with a young man. She was like how can 2 men have sex?? She really didnt understand BLESS HER HEART. ITS A GOOD THING SHE WASNT HAVING SEX WITH HIM. NOT TRYING TO BE FUNNY. JS
You didn't see anything of the sort. You lifted that little skit from the movie "and the band played on", it's almost identical. You should delete your comment, shame on you.
Bruh, when he started counting all the std’s he’s had 😮, I mean, how was he still alive. No one deserves to suffer, but when you keep getting std’s but still continue to be irresponsible, what is the meaning of that? Come on!!!
Emotions Are Not Logical And You Are Applying Logic To Emotions. If People Suppress Their Sexual Feelings For Decades Then, When They Stop Suppressing Their Feelings, They Will Spend A Lot Of Time Focused On Expressing Their Sexual Feelings. Your Insensitive and Reductive Comment Is Basically Just "Hindsight Is 20/20".
It's because many had the comfort of the sti having treatment so it's just, "It doesn't matter cause I'll go to the hospital and get cured." It's why nowadays people don't care much about hiv because, "I'll just pop a pill a day and be fine" 🤦🏾♀️
I speak as a gay man, and my strong impression is that for some gay men of that era, sex was an addiction. Addictions usually come about as a means to deal with underlying trauma, and God knows, so many gay men of that generation were utterly traumatised by the way society had treated them all through their lives. For many, sex was the only time in their lives when they'd actually felt like somebody wanted them. It was very much like the Peaches song, "F*ck the pain away". Of course, there may be other reasons too in individual cases. With things like ADHD and bi polar, we know that people tend to be much more promiscuous. They are often hugely impulsive and engaged in risky behaviours, not just with sex.
I was a teenager at this time. I have never been religious and didn't come from a religious family. Promiscuity was common among heterosexuals, especially men and promoted by Playboy and the entertainment industry. However, I have never been able to understand the individuals like Michael Callen and Bobby Campbell who experienced so many STIs and kept being promiscuous without condoms. Just from a biological point of view, this promiscuity created a perfect ecosystem for a new disease to become an epidemic. Yet, I have never
There are a number of reasons. Firstly, you can look at it as an addiction. We know that addictions often arise as a means of processing trauma, and god knows, so many gay men of that generation were utterly traumatised by the way they'd been treated by society all of their lives. For many, having sex was the only time in their lives they had ever felt genuinely wanted. For some others, it may have been a subconscious death wish. So many were crippled by the toxic shame they'd been brought up with, and if you think you're the lowest of the low, you're going to act like it. The next reason is touched on in the video - that the liberalisation of the law meant that for the first time in their lives, gay men of that era could actually have sex without being criminalised. It was like lifting the lid on a pressure cooker and a lot of people went out to make up for a lot of lost time. There are other reasons which will only touch on some individuals. We know that people with conditions such as ADHD and Bi Polar are generally much more promiscuous than people who don't have those conditions. They tend to get into more dangerous positions in general, not just with sex, and are very impulsive. "hyper sexuality" is often one of the symptoms of some people who are bi polar. Borderline Personality Disorder can also look like that too.
@@zeddeka There was a great deal of sexual addiction, and you're quite right alot of young guys found they were suddenly able to have sex without legal sanction, so they went mad. Plus the "sexual revolution" (so-called) was still in full swing and sex was a hot topic. If you said to a bunch of young heterosexual men; you can have as much sex as you like, then how much sex are they gonna have? Quite alot I should think. Fran Lebowitz puts it very well I think. *_"And I remember saying to this straight guy...'Are you telling me that if there was a street in New York full of beautiful 20yo girls whom you could just take into a doorway or something that you wouldn't do it?_* *_"'You would do it! You just can't do it because women won't do it.' A small price to pay for owning the world I would say."_* Fran Lebowitz 2020
I can't imagine what it must have been like. Honestly. I have seen pictures and docs of course but I've never seen, first hand, a person actually going through the process of wasting away and the pain that must be too unbearable to imagine.
It's still awful and horrible yet people refuse to believe me. I was on the front line up until 3 years ago and was still seeing men completely psychotic or blind or with amputations ALL from HIV/AIDS. You see, the media has decided to portray this virus as a walk in the park where you just take a pill and you are able to disco dance and sky dive and when someone dies of AIDS now it is covered up. This is about pharma making billions and about portraying homosexuality as a healthy lifestyle where men frolic on white sheets with no mess and there are no diseases attached. The reality is that 40% of people get NOTHING from HIV meds,many people have no insurance to get the meds and in closing and summation, the medications can stop working because the virus has mutated. Lpsg Lpsg
@@jamesstreet228 It was horrendous and there was so little we could do about it. I still have the same recurring nightmare on occasion and it was 35 years ago.
I didn’t, but I got to experience COVID working in ICU, and overworked ER. It’s still a bit different. But seeing so many people suffocate to death because of a virus isn’t something that leaves your memory. Hope you’re doing ok.
@@_letstartariot Thanks, I'm retired now but as you said these things stay with you, your experiences are probably even closer than you think, pneumocystis pneumonia is very much like COVID pneumonia with regards suffocation.
If you haven't found the other parts, types these titles into the TH-cam search box. "Hunting The Virus" The Plague Program 2 (1993 Documentary) - Jenny Barraclough "The Plague" (History of AIDS) Prog 3 (C4) 1993 "The End of The Beginning" The Plague Program 4 (1993 Documentary) - Jenny Barraclough
terrific that this is available to see for our younger generations to understand our crisis. I was a very young man at the time and witnessed 1st hand how people were treated or not treated more correctly. Not only did medical facilities refuse to treat but society, families, even friends would leave people in complete isolation to suffer and die alone. so many hard stories that should have been told that are lost. I remember the heart ach for those men. i decided i wanted to help so i went to study nursing and when the dept head had heard it rumoured i was gay i was called in and basically told i was too high of a risk to the community......the times were horrid. it was hard enough to handle all the deaths and the lose of community but to then have to be given the extra trauma of a society lead by fear and ignorance turning their backs upon you and worse in sydney at that time the police who turned a blind eye to "poofter bashing" and who were often seen themselves bashing gay men in and out of uniform beleiving it to be their "moral duty". covid had nothing on what happened in those years its very hard to articulate the mulitiple levels of trauma that we lived through.
I went into healthcare for the same reason. I was horribly abused in my family so I could understand and I chose healthcare because of it worked with patients AIDS and never once did I ever treat them different.
Even without aids yet making its appearance in the 70’s did the fellas not think that having so many partners in the dark unprotected was a little dangerous .There is having fun & that but if it involves then getting the alphabet of sexual diseases & afflictions might it not have been the time to pull up or take steps at wearing protection.I’m all for young guys sewing their oats but some hygiene precautions & precautionary protection would seem to have been wise behaviour aids or no aids
But if you say anything negative or opposed to the gay lifestyle you’re branded as homophobic and attacked. But the sad reality is men having anal sex without any protection all the while doing tons of drugs and getting loaded up with antibiotics to treat their growing std’s is it any wonder this disease became so widespread? Now if you listen to the young gay men now many of them actually want HIV as a badge of honor and releasing them from having to have safe sex any further. New drugs helps prolong their life and lifestyles to the point they no longer worry about contracting the disease. They see it as more liberating to have HIV now because it allows them to be even more sexually active with multiple partners as much as they want. It’s mind blowing how this all started and how it’s morphed into what it has become today. I figure at some point HIV/AIDS will become even more resistant to any drugs soon and their death tolls will spike again. It will be the 1980’s all over again and it will spread like wildfire.
@@splinterbyrd You won't get it unfortunately. Jenny Barraclough has been asked many times and nothing comes of it, either she can't or won't. Probably its "can't" perhaps because of copyright issues or maybe the missing parts have been lost.
😅 It was basically a big tub of animal lard that had the brand name of Crisco. People used lard to fry and bake food in the 70s, before it became known that animal fat was causing heart attacks and coronary artery disease. Only people who were alive in the 70s remember that buzzword Crisco, and what it stood for.
My question is .....knowing all that we know now...how come it didnt occur to any of those men having 3000 plus sexual partners and exchanging genetic material with THAT many different people is not good...like why? One would think it would be so plainly obvious.
There are a number of reasons. Firstly, you can look at it as an addiction. We know that addictions often arise as a means of processing trauma, and god knows, so many gay men of that generation were utterly traumatised by the way they'd been treated by society all of their lives. For many, having sex was the only time in their lives they had ever felt genuinely wanted. For some others, it may have been a subconscious death wish. So many were crippled by the toxic shame they'd been brought up with, and if you think you're the lowest of the low, you're going to act in a very self destructive way. The next reason is touched on in the video - that the liberalisation of the law meant that for the first time in their lives, gay men of that era could actually have sex without being criminalised. It was like lifting the lid on a pressure cooker and a lot of people went out to make up for a lot of lost time. There are other reasons which will only touch on some individuals. We know that people with conditions such as ADHD and Bi Polar are generally much more promiscuous than people who don't have those conditions. They tend to get into more dangerous positions in general, not just with sex, and are very impulsive. "hyper sexuality" is often one of the symptoms of some people who are bi polar.
That's true but you can say exactly the same thing about Gene Simmons, wilt chamberlain, Tommy Morrison,Magic Johnson, Casanova etcetera. Alot of straight men would live that kind of decadent lifestyle if we were rich,powerful and famous like those men I mentioned as they can attract tons of women as alot of women lust after men with POWER and FAME wheras we men whether gay or straight couldn't give a rats ass about women's or men's power and fame, we lust after beauty and youth.🙂
That just implies the 20yr had contracted HIV as a teenager, which is unfortunate. Since HIV doesn't become dormant, the term "incubation period" is not an accurate description of how HIV progresses to end-stage. The virus begins attacking helper T-cells shortly after infection, and continues to attack the immune system until it becomes AIDS. Some people progress to AIDS faster than the 10 year average; and depending on what opportunistic infection is contracted, death can happen in a matter of months.
The incubation period is extremely variable also if you're infected by transfusion the incubation is often shorter probably because of the huge amount of virus that is injected.
HIV can take some time to be visible, and any length of time to develop into AIDS. Some are carried away by it quite swiftly; a tiny percentage can remain HIV+ with no ill effects indefinitely
@@dritemolawzbks8574Exactly. If a gay man unknowingly had HIV that had already progressed to full-blown Aids, and he contacts something that affects the brain or nervous system like meningitis or pml, that person could be dead in days. For some people that's how it went down. In retrospect, those people were the lucky ones...the suffering people went through that lived for years is so horrible that honestly, words fail me.
Michael Callen 9:09 and 20:55 (what a great singer btw) and this doctor (6:55) are/were the only honest people (they would be silenced and cancelled for talking the cold hard truth nowadays)... The other (gay) people talking, the other gay activists, the "community" should have stopped whining instantly. They paid a price, as I will for smoking, so stop blaming others. It is/was all self inflicted. I am all for all freedom btw, but never blame others, and loved the greaties 80s with all the craziness (F1/Ralleye drivers actually risking their lives while doing real racing, musicans sung, football was a hard hitting mens sport, boarding a flight took 2 minutes, gay men had their f around everybody like there is no other day freedom in night clubs and bath houses (should have never been closed by govt btw), etc, etc, live fast and die young or choose otherwise... still wayyy better than the woke fotbidden live masked nowadays with all the woke sh.it). Having said the truth: Ronald Reagan was guilty of many things, but never ever responsible for AIDS and its handling, actually he was an advertiser of freedom.
Michael Callen was a absolutely gorgeous man when he was healthy. A beautiful singing voice too. To see what AIDS did to him near the end. He looks nearly unrecognisable, like an old man. I have nothing but contempt towards HIV. It’s killed so many wonderful young souls. RIP Michael. I will always remember you at your most beautiful.
Episode1 _The Zero Factor;_ segment 2/2 is here; th-cam.com/video/6dIvA3zIqTs/w-d-xo.html The whole playlist is here; th-cam.com/play/PLXjlG2phwPn22OKyl9KFrea3nfhoTHcAA.html
Interesting point. I once read the high count of AIDS victims in Africa started with mass vacinations... Translation to nowadays: Good luck all you boostered people. And, as ironic as it is, vaxx zealots are mostly found in the LBTX community, Fauci being their "hero". Anyway, I think the promiscuous lifestyle Michael Callen described certainly didnt prolong life expectancy. AIDS or not.
Jerry Rosenbaum didn't exactly fit the gay aesthetic of the time . You had to be a young fit Adonis on that Fire Island in the 1970s to fit in and get invited to all the many gatherings , just look at the photos from back then. He was a mild mannered bald accountant or analyst with a very heavy Brooklyn accent.
@@زنكي I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but if he was getting down with those folks on Fire Island like he said he was back then he probably died of AIDS himself.. remember that this documentary was made a very long time ago
Now it’s cool to be a bummer not that there’s anything wrong with it each to their own as long as it’s not pushed on the kids .Thank god I’m not as I know it come with problems
The portrayal of AIDS as a gay disease probably cost millions of people who weren't gay their lives. We now know that most HIV infections in the western world can be traced back to a strain of HIV that was brought to New York in c. 1969 from Haiti. It then spread through the homeless and poor heterosexual population in New York (it was subsequently found in the 1980s that 1 in 5 women in Brooklyn were HIV+), but nobody had been paying attention because the victims were poor with limited healthcare access. Most were also women, and the symptoms of AIDS are often less distinctive in women (for example, women are less likely to get Kaposi's sarcoma). It was only when HIV later jumped into the gay community at some point in the 1970s and cases of AIDS started to appear there, that the campaigning began. The gay community included more affluent and influential individuals, and many who'd been used to campaigning. Unfortunately, it also meant that society as a whole took the opportunity to extend their homophobia and label AIDS as a gay disease, a form of "divine punishment" from God. All the while the original victims and carriers of the virus, the poor, the ethnic minorities and the female, were largely airbrushed out because they didn't fit in with the homophobic narrative, and nobody had bothered to check whether they too had been infected. Of course, AIDS had been killing people (overwhelmingly heterosexuals) in Africa for decades. But those deaths were usually mistaken for other conditions like TB.
@@splinterbyrd Promiscuous sex is disgusting, whether homosexual or heterosexual. It's not 'being human' to have 3000 sexual encounters by the time you're 26, it's animalistic.
@@bassinblue We are animals, and the natural world is never neat and tidy. If it disgusts you and you want to do something about it, a good place to start is to ask why it's happening
@@splinterbyrd Yes, we are 'animals' but we are more than animals, because we are above them in the sense that we are responsible and can even go as far as to look after other animals, something no animals do except for us. We have intellect and hopefully common sense. If I go out and sleep with 1000 women unprotected, it's only my fault if I end up with a permanent disease. I do feel sorry for those who died of the disease nonetheless, but it was bound to happen, let's be real (for those who contracted it with promiscuous sex).
A lot of people in the comments wondering about the men who had many sexual partners, and why. There are a number of reasons. Firstly, you can look at it as an addiction for some. We know that addictions often arise as a means of processing trauma, and god knows, so many gay men of that generation were utterly traumatised by the way they'd been treated by society all of their lives. For many, having sex was the only time in their lives they had ever felt genuinely wanted. For some others, it may have been a subconscious death wish. So many were crippled by the toxic shame they'd been brought up with, and if you think you're the lowest of the low, you're going to act in a very self destructive way. The next reason is touched on in the video - that the liberalisation of the law meant that for the first time in their lives, gay men of that era could actually have sex without being criminalised. It was like lifting the lid on a pressure cooker and a lot of people went out to make up for a lot of lost time. Another reason is also discussed in the video. After years of oppression, some viewed having sex as a political act of defiance against a world that had treated them so badly. There are other reasons which will only touch on some individuals. We know that people with conditions such as ADHD and Bi Polar are generally much more promiscuous than people who don't have those conditions. They tend to get into more dangerous positions in general, not just with sex, and are very impulsive. "hyper sexuality" is often one of the symptoms of some people who are bi polar. We have to add though that it wasn't just gay men who were being promiscuous. The 1960s and 1970s were the era of "free love" and the sexual revolution. A lot of people, whether straight or gay, were having a lot more sex and viewing it as a liberation fron their parents' more victorian views.
What about Rome you ask? Ask what happened to Rome…it fell. It’s called the fall of Rome and rampant sexual immorality is the last sign that happens before the collapse of an empire.
Thank God I am heterosexual and married to my FEMALE WIFE for 32 years. I personally don't care what anyone's sexual Preference is. What I don't like is your lifestyle constantly being pushed on mine.
It’s not being pushed on you though Is a group of gays pulling you into a bathhouse? Are they forcing you into an alley? That doesn’t even make sense, gay people triggers an emotional reaction in you
@@perfect1035 The only thing “real” about his comment that it’s really homophobic. Gay people don’t “push” their lifestyle on him, or anyone else for that matter. He doesn’t like the fact that gay people are allowed to have the same rights as everyone else, and that even having to see them offends him as a heterosexual. Good thing neither one of you make up the rules in this world, so deal with it.
I feel bad for those hemophiliac kids who got tainted blood. I don't feel any sympathy for the people who got it from their gross behavior. Yeah, anyone could have gotten it but only a certain type of people were mainly getting it because of what they were doing. And don't blame the doctors. If people weren't screwing dozens of people every day, the disease wouldn't have spread so fast and doctors would have had more time to figure it out before too many people died. If you're fat and your doctor says lose weight and you ignore them and get obesity-related diseases, don't be surprised if the doctor takes an apathetic stance towards you. Same thing here, or with anti-maskers and COVID or chain smokers and lung cancer. It isn't homophobia, it's doctors and nurses being overwhelmed with a tedious job and they'll make their best efforts towards those who want to live and make good decisions.
@Beatrice Mwenso Anybody can be infected just like anyone can die in a car crash. But someone driving drunk twice over the speed limit has a much higher chance of dying in a car crash and is endangering others.
@@soft_serve_666 yep, I don’t think it’s even possible for a society to have the “not your fault, but your responsibility” conversation at scale compassionately.
@@Btn1136 I just don't get how people can be so narrow-minded and cruel about AIDS. it's affected millions of people worldwide and not just "a certain type of person". A virus doesn't care if you're gay, an IV drug user or Mr. Roger's. I can't believe with all the information out there that people still actually think this way. It's embarrassing.
@@soft_serve_666 In Africa AIDS is a heterosexual disease affecting millions but in Europe and United States gay men are disproportionately at risk. 75% of new HIV cases in 2021 in America involved MSM (men who have sex with men)
Four years since I commented and I'm glad to see people are the talking about this on here. The first time that I heard of AIDS was in high school in 1986. From 81 to 86, HIV/AIDS didn't get much tv coverage that I remember. There was no Internet back then. I remember watching lots of tv. Shows like Oprah Winfrey, Donahue and Geraldo Rivera. From 2016 to now, I've been really watching these documentaries and films. The best movies and films that I have seen about AIDS are; The Band Played on (1993), Normal Hearts (2014), Longtime Companion (1989), We were Here (2011), An Early Frost (1985), Fatal Love, Molly Ringwald (1992), Rock Hudson movie (1990) and documentaries on TH-cam. I was watching this series on TH-cam about young men with HIV in their 20's. I think to myself, I was writing book reports in high school in the late 80 on AIDS before those guys were born. 😒
The narration of a documentary makes all the difference. 10/10.
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Really good documentary. Thank you. I lived through those years, born in 1958.
Very sad times indeed
I too was born in 1958
I was born in ‘79 and remember being TERRIFIED of the disease. What a terrible and tragic perfect storm.
Michael Callen was a top Aids Activist. He wrote many books on the topic. He lived 12 years with this disease. A great singer too.
Very, very interesting. Fewer things are as interesting as this plague. It's worse than any horror film. And this is one of the best documentaries I've seen so far.
I was looking for part 1. Here it is. Very informative series 🙏🙏🙏
WHERE is part 2 of this video ??
th-cam.com/video/bwX6blfNN4M/w-d-xo.html
Ep1 section 2/2 is here. Not v good quality but watchable
th-cam.com/video/6dIvA3zIqTs/w-d-xo.html
I remember seeing a 78 year old man that caught it. His wife was screaming there is no way he could have it. We dont even have sex. A nurse took her to the side and had to explain to her that he had been having sex with a young man. She was like how can 2 men have sex?? She really didnt understand BLESS HER HEART. ITS A GOOD THING SHE WASNT HAVING SEX WITH HIM. NOT TRYING TO BE FUNNY. JS
@@steelydanlover1972You’re correct! It was in the film and the band played on.
That's so hot...
@@II-wx4kvabsurd in a good way I hope. Like so absurdly good.
These men don’t stop that $3x thing even in their old age? Geez…..
You didn't see anything of the sort. You lifted that little skit from the movie "and the band played on", it's almost identical. You should delete your comment, shame on you.
Bruh, when he started counting all the std’s he’s had 😮, I mean, how was he still alive. No one deserves to suffer, but when you keep getting std’s but still continue to be irresponsible, what is the meaning of that? Come on!!!
I’ve never even heard of all of them!
Emotions Are Not Logical And You Are Applying Logic To Emotions. If People Suppress Their Sexual Feelings For Decades Then, When They Stop Suppressing Their Feelings, They Will Spend A Lot Of Time Focused On Expressing Their Sexual Feelings. Your Insensitive and Reductive Comment Is Basically Just "Hindsight Is 20/20".
It's because many had the comfort of the sti having treatment so it's just, "It doesn't matter cause I'll go to the hospital and get cured."
It's why nowadays people don't care much about hiv because, "I'll just pop a pill a day and be fine" 🤦🏾♀️
I speak as a gay man, and my strong impression is that for some gay men of that era, sex was an addiction. Addictions usually come about as a means to deal with underlying trauma, and God knows, so many gay men of that generation were utterly traumatised by the way society had treated them all through their lives. For many, sex was the only time in their lives when they'd actually felt like somebody wanted them. It was very much like the Peaches song, "F*ck the pain away". Of course, there may be other reasons too in individual cases. With things like ADHD and bi polar, we know that people tend to be much more promiscuous. They are often hugely impulsive and engaged in risky behaviours, not just with sex.
S lot of these guys have an addict mindset. Super degeneratr
Than you for your interesting comments
My eyes were opened wide! Very informative
Great documentary like the rest of your work.
Thank you for the information you provided.
It's a terrifying but fascinating subject.
Where can we find the missing parts?
I was a teenager at this time. I have never been religious and didn't come from a religious family. Promiscuity was common among heterosexuals, especially men and promoted by Playboy and the entertainment industry.
However, I have never been able to understand the individuals like Michael Callen and Bobby Campbell who experienced so many STIs and kept being promiscuous without condoms.
Just from a biological point of view, this promiscuity created a perfect ecosystem for a new disease to become an epidemic.
Yet, I have never
Everyone is different & everyone has different wants & hobbies
There are a number of reasons. Firstly, you can look at it as an addiction. We know that addictions often arise as a means of processing trauma, and god knows, so many gay men of that generation were utterly traumatised by the way they'd been treated by society all of their lives. For many, having sex was the only time in their lives they had ever felt genuinely wanted. For some others, it may have been a subconscious death wish. So many were crippled by the toxic shame they'd been brought up with, and if you think you're the lowest of the low, you're going to act like it. The next reason is touched on in the video - that the liberalisation of the law meant that for the first time in their lives, gay men of that era could actually have sex without being criminalised. It was like lifting the lid on a pressure cooker and a lot of people went out to make up for a lot of lost time. There are other reasons which will only touch on some individuals. We know that people with conditions such as ADHD and Bi Polar are generally much more promiscuous than people who don't have those conditions. They tend to get into more dangerous positions in general, not just with sex, and are very impulsive. "hyper sexuality" is often one of the symptoms of some people who are bi polar. Borderline Personality Disorder can also look like that too.
@@zeddeka There was a great deal of sexual addiction, and you're quite right alot of young guys found they were suddenly able to have sex without legal sanction, so they went mad. Plus the "sexual revolution" (so-called) was still in full swing and sex was a hot topic.
If you said to a bunch of young heterosexual men; you can have as much sex as you like, then how much sex are they gonna have? Quite alot I should think. Fran Lebowitz puts it very well I think.
*_"And I remember saying to this straight guy...'Are you telling me that if there was a street in New York full of beautiful 20yo girls whom you could just take into a doorway or something that you wouldn't do it?_*
*_"'You would do it! You just can't do it because women won't do it.' A small price to pay for owning the world I would say."_*
Fran Lebowitz 2020
Very informative. I feel this so much. Thank you.
You’re not wrong…
Incredible informative documentary. I have seen all four parts on TH-cam. Sadly, those guy at fire island had no idea what was coming.
Those men were hella nasty..Im 56 so I was there when gay men actually had sex in the street.
@@Qayil109 wow in new York ?
@@xxxtrddy yes indeed.
Where did you find part two?? it's not on this channel 😀 👍
@@Jake_Moreno great thank you so much I appreciate your effort 😀👍
I was an RN at the time and can confidently say unless you experienced this firsthand you'll never fully understand how horrible and awful it was
I can't imagine what it must have been like. Honestly. I have seen pictures and docs of course but I've never seen, first hand, a person actually going through the process of wasting away and the pain that must be too unbearable to imagine.
It's still awful and horrible yet people refuse to believe me. I was on the front line up until 3 years ago and was still seeing men completely psychotic or blind or with amputations ALL from HIV/AIDS. You see, the media has decided to portray this virus as a walk in the park where you just take a pill and you are able to disco dance and sky dive and when someone dies of AIDS now it is covered up. This is about pharma making billions and about portraying homosexuality as a healthy lifestyle where men frolic on white sheets with no mess and there are no diseases attached. The reality is that 40% of people get NOTHING from HIV meds,many people have no insurance to get the meds and in closing and summation, the medications can stop working because the virus has mutated.
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@@jamesstreet228 It was horrendous and there was so little we could do about it. I still have the same recurring nightmare on occasion and it was 35 years ago.
I didn’t, but I got to experience COVID working in ICU, and overworked ER. It’s still a bit different. But seeing so many people suffocate to death because of a virus isn’t something that leaves your memory. Hope you’re doing ok.
@@_letstartariot Thanks, I'm retired now but as you said these things stay with you, your experiences are probably even closer than you think, pneumocystis pneumonia is very much like COVID pneumonia with regards suffocation.
I really like this video! Very informative. And quite interesting.
Where’s the other 3 parts? Such a brilliant documentary
I found two of the other episodes on a different playlist on this channel 😀👍
One episode is called hunting the virus another episode is called the beginning of the end 😀👍
If you haven't found the other parts, types these titles into the TH-cam search box.
"Hunting The Virus" The Plague Program 2 (1993 Documentary) - Jenny Barraclough
"The Plague" (History of AIDS) Prog 3 (C4) 1993
"The End of The Beginning" The Plague Program 4 (1993 Documentary) - Jenny Barraclough
The whole series is here;
th-cam.com/play/PLXjlG2phwPn22OKyl9KFrea3nfhoTHcAA.html
I feel sorry for the Guy with 3000 Partners, but man why that filthy life
I recall this being shown on the Discovery Channel back in 1993, and it was narrated by Alec Baldwin.
Part two please 🙏
I viewed it last Week.
@@tonynamate9772 you saw Part One, #2 of 2? The other 30 minutes of this episode where?
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Might be this one he saw?
@@tonynamate9772 WHERE is part 2 of this video ??
Episode1 _The Zero Factor;_ segment 2/2 is here; th-cam.com/video/6dIvA3zIqTs/w-d-xo.html
That guy rattling off all the diseases he had. . .good grief.
And he was still out there fooling around
@@RG-qo2hu yes, because you could get easily cured
I didn’t even know some of them existed. Rectal gonorrhea?? Oh my god.
3000 sexual partners...and we are supposed to feel sorry for him because it most likely killed him...🙄
I wonder if this guy with all the diseases is still alive.
terrific that this is available to see for our younger generations to understand our crisis. I was a very young man at the time and witnessed 1st hand how people were treated or not treated more correctly. Not only did medical facilities refuse to treat but society, families, even friends would leave people in complete isolation to suffer and die alone. so many hard stories that should have been told that are lost. I remember the heart ach for those men. i decided i wanted to help so i went to study nursing and when the dept head had heard it rumoured i was gay i was called in and basically told i was too high of a risk to the community......the times were horrid. it was hard enough to handle all the deaths and the lose of community but to then have to be given the extra trauma of a society lead by fear and ignorance turning their backs upon you and worse in sydney at that time the police who turned a blind eye to "poofter bashing" and who were often seen themselves bashing gay men in and out of uniform beleiving it to be their "moral duty". covid had nothing on what happened in those years its very hard to articulate the mulitiple levels of trauma that we lived through.
I went into healthcare for the same reason. I was horribly abused in my family so I could understand and I chose healthcare because of it worked with patients AIDS and never once did I ever treat them different.
Never knew it was originally called GRID. Damn.
@Midnight Lightning Radio it’s not. Anyone can get HIV… but i have a feeling you just don’t like gay people
Even without aids yet making its appearance in the 70’s did the fellas not think that having so many partners in the dark unprotected was a little dangerous .There is having fun & that but if it involves then getting the alphabet of sexual diseases & afflictions might it not have been the time to pull up or take steps at wearing protection.I’m all for young guys sewing their oats but some hygiene precautions & precautionary protection would seem to have been wise behaviour aids or no aids
They are dirty C’s still are .I know several get guys & all have got hiv,hep C & have had others .They don’t give a damn in catching diseases
Unprotected sex with 3000 plus men, what could possibly go wrong?
That's hella funny!
right???
Seriously. How hedonistic do you have to be
Too much
But if you say anything negative or opposed to the gay lifestyle you’re branded as homophobic and attacked. But the sad reality is men having anal sex without any protection all the while doing tons of drugs and getting loaded up with antibiotics to treat their growing std’s is it any wonder this disease became so widespread? Now if you listen to the young gay men now many of them actually want HIV as a badge of honor and releasing them from having to have safe sex any further. New drugs helps prolong their life and lifestyles to the point they no longer worry about contracting the disease. They see it as more liberating to have HIV now because it allows them to be even more sexually active with multiple partners as much as they want. It’s mind blowing how this all started and how it’s morphed into what it has become today. I figure at some point HIV/AIDS will become even more resistant to any drugs soon and their death tolls will spike again. It will be the 1980’s all over again and it will spread like wildfire.
Jenny, thank you for your amazing work. Any idea where we can find the missing segment 2 of 2 for Part 1? :)
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@@z1rc86 thanks😉
@@splinterbyrd You won't get it unfortunately. Jenny Barraclough has been asked many times and nothing comes of it, either she can't or won't. Probably its "can't" perhaps because of copyright issues or maybe the missing parts have been lost.
Episode1 _The Zero Factor;_ segment 2/2 is here; th-cam.com/video/6dIvA3zIqTs/w-d-xo.html
@@adrianh332 I've found it;
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I was so sure once this illness happened that their would be a cure for it. It broke my heart when it didnt.😢 rip
Pharmaceutical companies make no money if there is a cure. But if its lifetime treatment? They make billions
WHERE is part 2 of this video ??
The whole playlist is here; th-cam.com/play/PLXjlG2phwPn22OKyl9KFrea3nfhoTHcAA.html
@@splinterbyrd excellent, thank you
I noticed that ''The Zero Factor'' 2 of 2 is missing. Do you have any idea if you have it?
You can find it under this TH-cam video title;
"Hunting The Virus" The Plague Program 2 (1993 Documentary) - Jenny Barraclough
The whole playlist is here including episode1 segment 2/2 is here:
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what is "can of crisco"? 8:26
Crisco is lard, used in cooking. It was a poor man's form of lubricant for anal sex.
😅 It was basically a big tub of animal lard that had the brand name of Crisco. People used lard to fry and bake food in the 70s, before it became known that animal fat was causing heart attacks and coronary artery disease. Only people who were alive in the 70s remember that buzzword Crisco, and what it stood for.
She’s basically insinuating that this guy had a huge jar of lube next to him for his many promiscuous acts.
Some use it as lub3.
Omg😂
What is Jerry Rosenbaum doing these days? Michael Callen died in December 1993.
He passed away in 2020.
@@XOSinclairSmytheXO Ah very sad how do you know? Link at all?
Last line: "People were laying in shit!"😯😂
For a minute I thought this was a world war 2 documentary with the incredible narrative.
My question is .....knowing all that we know now...how come it didnt occur to any of those men having 3000 plus sexual partners and exchanging genetic material with THAT many different people is not good...like why? One would think it would be so plainly obvious.
And that is why they were wiped out ...Darwin
There are a number of reasons. Firstly, you can look at it as an addiction. We know that addictions often arise as a means of processing trauma, and god knows, so many gay men of that generation were utterly traumatised by the way they'd been treated by society all of their lives. For many, having sex was the only time in their lives they had ever felt genuinely wanted. For some others, it may have been a subconscious death wish. So many were crippled by the toxic shame they'd been brought up with, and if you think you're the lowest of the low, you're going to act in a very self destructive way. The next reason is touched on in the video - that the liberalisation of the law meant that for the first time in their lives, gay men of that era could actually have sex without being criminalised. It was like lifting the lid on a pressure cooker and a lot of people went out to make up for a lot of lost time. There are other reasons which will only touch on some individuals. We know that people with conditions such as ADHD and Bi Polar are generally much more promiscuous than people who don't have those conditions. They tend to get into more dangerous positions in general, not just with sex, and are very impulsive. "hyper sexuality" is often one of the symptoms of some people who are bi polar.
That's true but you can say exactly the same thing about Gene Simmons, wilt chamberlain, Tommy Morrison,Magic Johnson, Casanova etcetera. Alot of straight men would live that kind of decadent lifestyle if we were rich,powerful and famous like those men I mentioned as they can attract tons of women as alot of women lust after men with POWER and FAME wheras we men whether gay or straight couldn't give a rats ass about women's or men's power and fame, we lust after beauty and youth.🙂
The music is too loud
'And The Band Played On'
9:20 Shigella histolytica and giardia? What was he doing in those bath houses? 🤢
What, you’re too good to have your salad tossed?😆
I only know what Giardia is because my poor little dog had it a few months ago, we believe it was from contaminated fecal matter she discovered. 🤮
@@julieann4616 Poor pup! At least dogs have the excuse of not knowing better.
These diseases are all caused by exposure to fecal matter...you do the math
@@Qayil109 lol!!!! ❤️
The doctor talked about a 20 yr old dying of AIDS. What about the 5 - 10 yr incubation period?
That just implies the 20yr had contracted HIV as a teenager, which is unfortunate.
Since HIV doesn't become dormant, the term "incubation period" is not an accurate description of how HIV progresses to end-stage.
The virus begins attacking helper T-cells shortly after infection, and continues to attack the immune system until it becomes AIDS.
Some people progress to AIDS faster than the 10 year average; and depending on what opportunistic infection is contracted, death can happen in a matter of months.
The incubation period is extremely variable also if you're infected by transfusion the incubation is often shorter probably because of the huge amount of virus that is injected.
HIV can take some time to be visible, and any length of time to develop into AIDS. Some are carried away by it quite swiftly; a tiny percentage can remain HIV+ with no ill effects indefinitely
It can be that long between 2-10 years
@@dritemolawzbks8574Exactly. If a gay man unknowingly had HIV that had already progressed to full-blown Aids, and he contacts something that affects the brain or nervous system like meningitis or pml, that person could be dead in days. For some people that's how it went down. In retrospect, those people were the lucky ones...the suffering people went through that lived for years is so horrible that honestly, words fail me.
what happened to jerry rosenbaum, the businessman after all these years?
He died on 13 November 2006.
@steelydanlover1972
Thanks
How to write his name correctly in English?
Thanks again.
Michael Callen 9:09 and 20:55 (what a great singer btw) and this doctor (6:55) are/were the only honest people (they would be silenced and cancelled for talking the cold hard truth nowadays)... The other (gay) people talking, the other gay activists, the "community" should have stopped whining instantly. They paid a price, as I will for smoking, so stop blaming others. It is/was all self inflicted. I am all for all freedom btw, but never blame others, and loved the greaties 80s with all the craziness (F1/Ralleye drivers actually risking their lives while doing real racing, musicans sung, football was a hard hitting mens sport, boarding a flight took 2 minutes, gay men had their f around everybody like there is no other day freedom in night clubs and bath houses (should have never been closed by govt btw), etc, etc, live fast and die young or choose otherwise... still wayyy better than the woke fotbidden live masked nowadays with all the woke sh.it).
Having said the truth: Ronald Reagan was guilty of many things, but never ever responsible for AIDS and its handling, actually he was an advertiser of freedom.
Anyone find part 2?
Ep1 section 2/2 is here. Not v good quality but watchable
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I am sorry I don't know.
WHERE is part 2 of this video ?? Thanks :)
Ep1 section 2/2 is here. Not v good quality but watchable
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Michael Callen was a absolutely gorgeous man when he was healthy. A beautiful singing voice too. To see what AIDS did to him near the end. He looks nearly unrecognisable, like an old man. I have nothing but contempt towards HIV. It’s killed so many wonderful young souls. RIP Michael. I will always remember you at your most beautiful.
Callen said he had over 300 partners, but he redeemed himself by becoming a staunch activist.
Bad things happen when your existence is so ruled by sexuality...
I guess people were livin' for "Gay 🏳️🌈 Sex" at the time!!!
Episode1 _The Zero Factor;_ segment 2/2 is here;
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The whole playlist is here;
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This all started to show up after 1978 79 when the Hep B vaccine study was started in NYC and LA in homosexual men.
Interesting point. I once read the high count of AIDS victims in Africa started with mass vacinations... Translation to nowadays: Good luck all you boostered people. And, as ironic as it is, vaxx zealots are mostly found in the LBTX community, Fauci being their "hero".
Anyway, I think the promiscuous lifestyle Michael Callen described certainly didnt prolong life expectancy. AIDS or not.
The earliest case of AIDS in the US is now known to be a 16yo youth who died of a then inexplicable flu-like illness in Missouri in 1969
Wow people were not concerned about other STDs at all at the time. Smh.
Aids is a toxic combination of STDs Fecal Matter and Drugs
@@mayahex7089 - AIDS is caused by the HIV virus, not drugs. Denialist comments are not needed.
@@whitneydyer328 I take the middle stance
@@whitneydyer328 why apologise
@@mayahex7089 You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Jerry Rosenbaum didn't exactly fit the gay aesthetic of the time . You had to be a young fit Adonis on that Fire Island in the 1970s to fit in and get invited to all the many gatherings , just look at the photos from back then. He was a mild mannered bald accountant or analyst with a very heavy Brooklyn accent.
Like the gay say, he was a bear and beside he had a lot of money, jajaja.
He was a daddy
what happened to jerry rosenbaum, the businessman after all these years?
@@زنكي I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but if he was getting down with those folks on Fire Island like he said he was back then he probably died of AIDS himself.. remember that this documentary was made a very long time ago
by age 26 he slept with 3k men. sick.
Full on eh
So what if it is sick? Because something's sick, why does that mean it's wrong?
Yes it does mean it’s wrong! Utterly animal incompetence and instinct!
He wasn't fucking around. He literally had to go through a dozen men daily who in turn probably were just as promiscuous.
Now it’s cool to be a bummer not that there’s anything wrong with it each to their own as long as it’s not pushed on the kids .Thank god I’m not as I know it come with problems
Lol bummer.... shirt lifter is another funny one
The portrayal of AIDS as a gay disease probably cost millions of people who weren't gay their lives. We now know that most HIV infections in the western world can be traced back to a strain of HIV that was brought to New York in c. 1969 from Haiti. It then spread through the homeless and poor heterosexual population in New York (it was subsequently found in the 1980s that 1 in 5 women in Brooklyn were HIV+), but nobody had been paying attention because the victims were poor with limited healthcare access. Most were also women, and the symptoms of AIDS are often less distinctive in women (for example, women are less likely to get Kaposi's sarcoma). It was only when HIV later jumped into the gay community at some point in the 1970s and cases of AIDS started to appear there, that the campaigning began. The gay community included more affluent and influential individuals, and many who'd been used to campaigning. Unfortunately, it also meant that society as a whole took the opportunity to extend their homophobia and label AIDS as a gay disease, a form of "divine punishment" from God. All the while the original victims and carriers of the virus, the poor, the ethnic minorities and the female, were largely airbrushed out because they didn't fit in with the homophobic narrative, and nobody had bothered to check whether they too had been infected. Of course, AIDS had been killing people (overwhelmingly heterosexuals) in Africa for decades. But those deaths were usually mistaken for other conditions like TB.
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😂😂...and they did not expect blowback. Ofcourse every equation has to be balanced, somehow, and it was.
This is really too disgusting to watch. I just want to know what they all say on their death beds - good sex? loved the sex ? this is gross.
It's not gross, it's called being human
@@splinterbyrd Promiscuous sex is disgusting, whether homosexual or heterosexual. It's not 'being human' to have 3000 sexual encounters by the time you're 26, it's animalistic.
@@bassinblue We are animals, and the natural world is never neat and tidy.
If it disgusts you and you want to do something about it, a good place to start is to ask why it's happening
@@splinterbyrd Yes, we are 'animals' but we are more than animals, because we are above them in the sense that we are responsible and can even go as far as to look after other animals, something no animals do except for us. We have intellect and hopefully common sense. If I go out and sleep with 1000 women unprotected, it's only my fault if I end up with a permanent disease. I do feel sorry for those who died of the disease nonetheless, but it was bound to happen, let's be real (for those who contracted it with promiscuous sex).
@@bassinblue So seek the answer to why it happens
A lot of people in the comments wondering about the men who had many sexual partners, and why. There are a number of reasons.
Firstly, you can look at it as an addiction for some. We know that addictions often arise as a means of processing trauma, and god knows, so many gay men of that generation were utterly traumatised by the way they'd been treated by society all of their lives. For many, having sex was the only time in their lives they had ever felt genuinely wanted.
For some others, it may have been a subconscious death wish. So many were crippled by the toxic shame they'd been brought up with, and if you think you're the lowest of the low, you're going to act in a very self destructive way.
The next reason is touched on in the video - that the liberalisation of the law meant that for the first time in their lives, gay men of that era could actually have sex without being criminalised. It was like lifting the lid on a pressure cooker and a lot of people went out to make up for a lot of lost time.
Another reason is also discussed in the video. After years of oppression, some viewed having sex as a political act of defiance against a world that had treated them so badly.
There are other reasons which will only touch on some individuals. We know that people with conditions such as ADHD and Bi Polar are generally much more promiscuous than people who don't have those conditions. They tend to get into more dangerous positions in general, not just with sex, and are very impulsive. "hyper sexuality" is often one of the symptoms of some people who are bi polar.
We have to add though that it wasn't just gay men who were being promiscuous. The 1960s and 1970s were the era of "free love" and the sexual revolution. A lot of people, whether straight or gay, were having a lot more sex and viewing it as a liberation fron their parents' more victorian views.
Yeah. Too bad it's still nit illegal
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Segment 2 of this episode is here
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Crisco? Lol no lube?
If it would've been exposed to a different sexual orientation, it wouldn't have spread so quickly in the 70's
Dangerous lifestyle
Very
It certainly is. So is spying.😏
The lost generation.
Fitzgerald didn't have a clue.
What about Rome? Didn't those gay men do the same thing even worse??
Yes, they did, and in Sparta, sex between men and boys was lauded.
@@TGP109so why then ??
What about Rome you ask? Ask what happened to Rome…it fell. It’s called the fall of Rome and rampant sexual immorality is the last sign that happens before the collapse of an empire.
Eran peoŕ que sodoma y gomorra les vuno 0laga y nu aun asi entendieron
Thank God I am heterosexual and married to my FEMALE WIFE for 32 years. I personally don't care what anyone's sexual Preference is. What I don't like is your lifestyle constantly being pushed on mine.
The realest comment here…
It’s not being pushed on you though
Is a group of gays pulling you into a bathhouse?
Are they forcing you into an alley?
That doesn’t even make sense, gay people triggers an emotional reaction in you
@@perfect1035 The only thing “real” about his comment that it’s really homophobic. Gay people don’t “push” their lifestyle on him, or anyone else for that matter. He doesn’t like the fact that gay people are allowed to have the same rights as everyone else, and that even having to see them offends him as a heterosexual. Good thing neither one of you make up the rules in this world, so deal with it.
God bless you and your wife. God loves both because you know the difference between right and wrong.
@ Lexicon 67 Get out your feelings..His comment was correct.
they are sick
I feel bad for those hemophiliac kids who got tainted blood. I don't feel any sympathy for the people who got it from their gross behavior. Yeah, anyone could have gotten it but only a certain type of people were mainly getting it because of what they were doing.
And don't blame the doctors. If people weren't screwing dozens of people every day, the disease wouldn't have spread so fast and doctors would have had more time to figure it out before too many people died.
If you're fat and your doctor says lose weight and you ignore them and get obesity-related diseases, don't be surprised if the doctor takes an apathetic stance towards you. Same thing here, or with anti-maskers and COVID or chain smokers and lung cancer. It isn't homophobia, it's doctors and nurses being overwhelmed with a tedious job and they'll make their best efforts towards those who want to live and make good decisions.
@Beatrice Mwenso Anybody can be infected just like anyone can die in a car crash. But someone driving drunk twice over the speed limit has a much higher chance of dying in a car crash and is endangering others.
Whether or not you agree with their lifestyle, they were still human beings and none of them deserved to die such a horrendous death.
@@soft_serve_666 yep, I don’t think it’s even possible for a society to have the “not your fault, but your responsibility” conversation at scale compassionately.
@@Btn1136 I just don't get how people can be so narrow-minded and cruel about AIDS. it's affected millions of people worldwide and not just "a certain type of person". A virus doesn't care if you're gay, an IV drug user or Mr. Roger's. I can't believe with all the information out there that people still actually think this way. It's embarrassing.
@@soft_serve_666 In Africa AIDS is a heterosexual disease affecting millions but in Europe and United States gay men are disproportionately at risk. 75% of new HIV cases in 2021 in America involved MSM (men who have sex with men)
3k partners 🤮
Disgusting.
Nope. It's called being human.
I love the propaganda at 8 minutes...