It’s true man sound is opinion, sound is subjective. You’re truck is full of sound and lots of people love that ! Some people prefer a strong front stage with mids and highs up on the pillars and a mid bass in the door with a SQ sealed subwoofer in the rear. Everyone has their opinion. Do what ever makes YOU happy
Headroom is dynamic , equalization is for frequency . Crossovers for subwoofer are for subwoofer and box response . If your box /subwoofer combo has a good response from 25-70 hz(bandwidth with good roll off)then adjust Accordingly . low pass at 70 and subsonic at 25. Yes it is what you like but if your not getting good response above 70 then don’t have the crossover set at 100hz and the subsonic set at 15hz (if you have a subsonic filter). You are wasting energy. Just because someone comments and doesn’t have a channel or anything, doesn’t mean they don’t know anything. Yes having your tweeters up by the window and the mids down in the doors is horrible separation (it is better to keep them closer). Dsp can fix that but it isn’t good.
I watched 1 of ur videos a year ago, I thought u was just showing off and didn't know shit. I watched ur video about 1 vs 2 ohm on amps sonically. You are smart and do know what ur talking about. The way you explained it about the water flow was bad ass. That is the easiest way to explain electrical theory to someone that doesn't know. I've got a lot of knowledge about electronics and electrical theory. You are exactly right about all that. And u explained it STUPID WELL. I AM SUBSCRIBED NOW.
I've been playing with my settings on my Alpine Halo 9 & my system went from good to great with some minor adjustments. When I add a sub, it will elevate it even more. Love your videos. Thanks for putting out these videos
This information was awesome. I really learned something. Your knowledge is KING. I have two Meso 8’s in my 2016 F-150. I will get at you soon to build me a box as soon as I stack up my cheese.
i always lowpass mine on the rears at around 2 to 3khz region at a slope of 6 db/octave...... this cause the soundstage to even get bigger with the fronts being highpassed to around 200hz 6db/octave.... sound quality in my car is phenomenal.... it felt different
In CAF crossover explanation, he mentions that setting crossover setting on the Deck and amplifier gives you added security. If someone messes with your deck settings or the deck resets through battery maybe dying (which does happen more then once) the amp settings take care of your speakers. He showed visually that the settings on both the deck and the amp actually do not cancel each other out. I believe the deck takes priority until it fails then the amp is active. 🫶🔥
Good Mornin'! Great video! Plain and simple to the point! Adjust your crossover to your liking, not what someone tells you to set it at, yes there are some basic functions to maybe "begin with" in understanding your crossover on a head unit to use as a giude, but playing with the EQ, crossover time alignment, etc. I tell ya what, when I got my Kenwood DDX376bt, hooked it all up cleanly, ready to go, lets get it, turned it on, and was like what the F&^k is this? I knew what I was buying of course, but did NOT know at the time the full capabilities. It took some time to really learn or dial the unit in to my liking, and boy did I start getting confused when it came to trying to match it up with the amplifier, bass knob, etc. However, after some time like anything else you use consistently almost becomes 2nd nature. I do still struggle a bit with really grasping the slopes, but as I begin to build my door panels up I am almost certain I will understand a bit better or hear it that is! Thank you, I appreciate your videos!!!!
New sub here, dawg; nice meeting you! We have something in common: I too have a total of 13 speakers (and two amps) in my Hummer H3. Must be something magical about that number 13, huh?... I have six 6 x 9"s, two 10"s, two 5.25"s, two tweet-tweets, and a sub in a pear tree. My 800W , 4-Channel, Class AB amp sits under my driver seat and powers my mids & highs. The 1,000W, Monoblock Class D amp rests under the passenger seat and powers the three boom-booms in the rear. Everything gets filtered through my crossover, and sounds SOOO sweet... 😏 Just like you said: It doesn't matter what Joe Shmo likes/dislikes; it's your system - you set it up how YOU like it. As you can see, I like mid-range the most, with just a small thump to tag along with it, but nothing too bass-crazy. To me, it sounds phenomenal.
This vid would help if everyone had the same headunit. My headunit is a kenwood and it shows differently in crossover settings. Slope was the only thing that was the same.
With a small slope like 6db your going to let in a lot of higher frequencies above your set crossover frequency possibly resulting in low mids from vocals. If you don’t want much more than where you cut your going to want the largest slope you can get. ie. 18-24db slope. An 80hz crossover with 6db slope would in my opinion would limit your output and play to wide of a range making it muddy. Also if you set your door speakers and subs with the same cross over point of say 80hz you will get a 3db bump in output at 80hz. There is a right and wrong way to set cross overs as they can lead to phase issues and unwanted frequency loss’s or gains.
On my radio, my crossover frequency slope affects volume and phase of that freq. 80hz is loudest with the front at 18db and rear at 12db. Sub set at 80hz 12db. Found this out just playing with the slopes and using an 80hz tone.
Nice video.I was so excited I paused church to watch. I always wondered what was your theory on setting the crossovers to get that amazing sound you have. They call me old skool. I choose to set source unit crossovers on thru and rely on DSP and amp for crossover. I m going to test this method out. By opening up my crossovers on amp and set them at the source to see how much the sound changes or improves. Thanks for more great information. Should crossovers and slopes on DSP be set the same as the source unit? Or set the same as the amp.?
@@M.B.Enclosures I don't seem to have some of those settings on mine. I do have the time adjustment and the eq - I don't have the crossover stuff. I do have the sub volume adjustment.
@@M.B.Enclosures very helpful. I never had a installer set the crossovers this way but I will going forward. I like the concept and I see it's better this way. Question, do you think you really need a DSP for your system or is it just a preference?
I bought a Deaf Bounce Apocalypse 12 inch dvc and it's 1+1/2+2 subwoofer. I run 2 kicker 600 watts 1 to each vc. How should I wire my pos and neg on the sub and then from the sub to amps. Right now I run pos and neg on one vc going to one amp and the same on the other vc. Then I have rca Jack's from radio to 1 amp and then run a daisy chain to the other amp with rca jack. Is that right or should it be wired differently
Is 120 hz too high for a 8.4 inch alpine? Its a stock sub for a 2016 wrangler but i have mine on an amp since my jeep was a base model it disnt come with the sub. I got it on 4ohms 150watt rms currently around that 100 to 120 range on amp and 120 on head unit and it seems punchy
I just install the same head unit in my ram I have only stock location kicker dash,front doors and rear doors and a single 10 any insight on how to set the eq let me know and thanks
Hey man maybe you help after installing a after market headunit (kenwood) with after market rear and front speakers , no subs no amps, my soeakers sound terrible worst than before, coukdnt even turn up without distortion, so i got a 4 channel amp to power those speakers and my front speakers are so quiet compared to the rear, its bad enoughy i have to turn the head unit volume damm near to 30 just to get some loadness cant harley hear anything at 15, but why is my front speakers so low
Ok so I’m really a newbie in this. So I do have a question? You said put the amp on full pass I get that so what do you do with subsonic feature of the amp?
you have way less frequencys as me, can i send you a picture of mine and u can help me set it up? like u have 25 40 63 and i have 20 24 29 36 45 53 65, do i need to make this to the same position or not?
yes....at times i crossover up to 100hz, but not very often. the epicenter just needs to have a full range sub signal, not a full range signal. above 100hz it is doing nothing. remember its for bass restoration, not mid.
@@M.B.Enclosures ok, I have mine receiving a full range signal from my rear rca output. I’m going to try the sub rca’s and play with it. Thanks for responding my brother
@@M.B.Enclosures I always thought the epicenter needed to see signals up to 200 or so Hz. Audio Control says give it a full range signal. I'm not clear on how it restores bass, maybe it looks for trace harmonics one octave up. I wish Audio Control was more clear on this. I'd like to try an epicenter.
@@JasonWW2000 Audio Control instructed me to set it up (2) different ways. The first rep said to use my HU xover at its highest setting and set my amp xover around 80-125. Then the 2nd rep said to give it a full range signal from my rear channel rca’s making the need of an Y splitter rca to run my rear 5.25 coax’s. I just did it MBE’s way and it sounds much better. I set my fronts 63hz 18db , rear 80hz 18db and sub 63hz 12db. Much better balance especially when I apply the epicenter knob.
Need someone to tell me this. I’ve heard a lot of people saying to turn the LPF on my sub amp to the max and set it on my headunit. Could someone please explain.
low pass usually 60 to 80 hz. listen to what sounds best to you. I tend to use higher slopes like 18 or 24. if I used 6 I'd get vocals from my sub which I don't like. So experiment and see what you like.
@@michaelbaldwin8869 For subsonic, you just want to reduce the excess excursion below the tuned frequency (in a ported box). A lot depends on how accurate your subsonic frequencies are. most amps have crap subsonic filters. If you have a digital unit and your box is tuned to 30hz, you might have decent extension to 25 to 27 roughly. So set the subsonic to be 3db down at 22hz. Its probably going to be trial and error. Set it so you reduce excursion below the tuned frequency but not so low that you reduce usable output. If you have a sealed box you may not even need it.
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It’s true man sound is opinion, sound is subjective.
You’re truck is full of sound and lots of people love that !
Some people prefer a strong front stage with mids and highs up on the pillars and a mid bass in the door with a SQ sealed subwoofer in the rear. Everyone has their opinion. Do what ever makes YOU happy
Headroom is dynamic , equalization is for frequency . Crossovers for subwoofer are for subwoofer and box response . If your box /subwoofer combo has a good response from 25-70 hz(bandwidth with good roll off)then adjust Accordingly . low pass at 70 and subsonic at 25. Yes it is what you like but if your not getting good response above 70 then don’t have the crossover set at 100hz and the subsonic set at 15hz (if you have a subsonic filter). You are wasting energy. Just because someone comments and doesn’t have a channel or anything, doesn’t mean they don’t know anything. Yes having your tweeters up by the window and the mids down in the doors is horrible separation (it is better to keep them closer). Dsp can fix that but it isn’t good.
got to have mids and highs if you like music. I was always taught if you can't hear your mids and highs over your bass...you don't have a system.
Absolutely true.
Big Facts 💯💯💯
Thank you for that Tutorial Mr MBE….. I be looking at this video again, when I’m tuning my system
I watched 1 of ur videos a year ago, I thought u was just showing off and didn't know shit. I watched ur video about 1 vs 2 ohm on amps sonically. You are smart and do know what ur talking about. The way you explained it about the water flow was bad ass. That is the easiest way to explain electrical theory to someone that doesn't know. I've got a lot of knowledge about electronics and electrical theory. You are exactly right about all that. And u explained it STUPID WELL. I AM SUBSCRIBED NOW.
I've been playing with my settings on my Alpine Halo 9 & my system went from good to great with some minor adjustments. When I add a sub, it will elevate it even more. Love your videos. Thanks for putting out these videos
Been looking up vids on this explanation, and you sir have explained it the best
Dude thank you for this video I leaned a lot and I changed my settings and my system sounds way cleaner and hits harder now
Thanks for answering my question. I've had my subs set up completely wrong. No wonder it would only sound good on lower notes.
Adjusting my source unit to similar to this configuration has added much more sonics and depth to my system. Thanks for advice.🙌🏽
copy n paste type of guy lol jk
This information was awesome. I really learned something. Your knowledge is KING. I have two Meso 8’s in my 2016 F-150. I will get at you soon to build me a box as soon as I stack up my cheese.
Completely broke it down G 👍🏾👍🏾💥💥💯
i always lowpass mine on the rears at around 2 to 3khz region at a slope of 6 db/octave...... this cause the soundstage to even get bigger with the fronts being highpassed to around 200hz 6db/octave.... sound quality in my car is phenomenal.... it felt different
In CAF crossover explanation, he mentions that setting crossover setting on the Deck and amplifier gives you added security. If someone messes with your deck settings or the deck resets through battery maybe dying (which does happen more then once) the amp settings take care of your speakers. He showed visually that the settings on both the deck and the amp actually do not cancel each other out. I believe the deck takes priority until it fails then the amp is active. 🫶🔥
Good Mornin'! Great video! Plain and simple to the point! Adjust your crossover to your liking, not what someone tells you to set it at, yes there are some basic functions to maybe "begin with" in understanding your crossover on a head unit to use as a giude, but playing with the EQ, crossover time alignment, etc. I tell ya what, when I got my Kenwood DDX376bt, hooked it all up cleanly, ready to go, lets get it, turned it on, and was like what the F&^k is this? I knew what I was buying of course, but did NOT know at the time the full capabilities. It took some time to really learn or dial the unit in to my liking, and boy did I start getting confused when it came to trying to match it up with the amplifier, bass knob, etc. However, after some time like anything else you use consistently almost becomes 2nd nature. I do still struggle a bit with really grasping the slopes, but as I begin to build my door panels up I am almost certain I will understand a bit better or hear it that is! Thank you, I appreciate your videos!!!!
Like the setup pioneer radio's have the best EQ and crossover in the game far as head units
Says someone who’s never had an alpine lol
I'm glad you explained it. I didn't i see any one explaining it thank you.
I love your learning time videos. Do you ever use -5 or -10db tones to set up your amps.
New sub here, dawg; nice meeting you!
We have something in common: I too have a total of 13 speakers (and two amps) in my Hummer H3.
Must be something magical about that number 13, huh?...
I have six 6 x 9"s, two 10"s, two 5.25"s, two tweet-tweets, and a sub in a pear tree.
My 800W , 4-Channel, Class AB amp sits under my driver seat and powers my mids & highs.
The 1,000W, Monoblock Class D amp rests under the passenger seat and powers the three boom-booms in the rear.
Everything gets filtered through my crossover, and sounds SOOO sweet... 😏
Just like you said: It doesn't matter what Joe Shmo likes/dislikes; it's your system - you set it up how YOU like it.
As you can see, I like mid-range the most, with just a small thump to tag along with it, but nothing too bass-crazy.
To me, it sounds phenomenal.
So what settings should you use on your head unit and which one should you stay away from?
This vid would help if everyone had the same headunit. My headunit is a kenwood and it shows differently in crossover settings. Slope was the only thing that was the same.
Imma start playing around with the crossover settings on my radio.
the digital settings on the radio are pretty accurate. the printing on amps can be way off.
@@JasonWW2000 I've noticed that. When I set my amp back to all pass and adjust the crossover settings on my radio my music alot cleaner
should you set your crossover and EQ before you set your gains on your amps?
With a small slope like 6db your going to let in a lot of higher frequencies above your set crossover frequency possibly resulting in low mids from vocals. If you don’t want much more than where you cut your going to want the largest slope you can get. ie. 18-24db slope. An 80hz crossover with 6db slope would in my opinion would limit your output and play to wide of a range making it muddy. Also if you set your door speakers and subs with the same cross over point of say 80hz you will get a 3db bump in output at 80hz. There is a right and wrong way to set cross overs as they can lead to phase issues and unwanted frequency loss’s or gains.
Why say all that and then say do it like you want it….your not teaching the master anything. Wow.
@@briansturgill5905 master? 🤣
On my radio, my crossover frequency slope affects volume and phase of that freq. 80hz is loudest with the front at 18db and rear at 12db. Sub set at 80hz 12db. Found this out just playing with the slopes and using an 80hz tone.
Can you please share some information on your head unit?
You crossover is set at 80hz an under does that affect the epicenter performance seens its siad that you need a full range signal to it
Nice video.I was so excited I paused church to watch. I always wondered what was your theory on setting the crossovers to get that amazing sound you have. They call me old skool. I choose to set source unit crossovers on thru and rely on DSP and amp for crossover. I m going to test this method out. By opening up my crossovers on amp and set them at the source to see how much the sound changes or improves. Thanks for more great information. Should crossovers and slopes on DSP be set the same as the source unit? Or set the same as the amp.?
if you running a DSP you have far more control than a source unit i would not change anything in your setup. if it sound good leave it alone
Yeah, set the amp to pass all signals. Don't use the headunit crossover at all. Do all your crossover on the dsp.
@@M.B.Enclosures I don't seem to have some of those settings on mine.
I do have the time adjustment and the eq - I don't have the crossover stuff. I do have the sub volume adjustment.
@@M.B.Enclosures very helpful. I never had a installer set the crossovers this way but I will going forward. I like the concept and I see it's better this way. Question, do you think you really need a DSP for your system or is it just a preference?
Cool video, great info. Thank you sir.
Man everything you are saying is true
Impressive info! Thank you!!
What’s up man, love your videos. Ballpark how much you charge for a ported box at a net of 2.75 cubic feet? It’s for a Memphis M6 12d2.
I bought a Deaf Bounce Apocalypse 12 inch dvc and it's 1+1/2+2 subwoofer. I run 2 kicker 600 watts 1 to each vc. How should I wire my pos and neg on the sub and then from the sub to amps.
Right now I run pos and neg on one vc going to one amp and the same on the other vc. Then I have rca Jack's from radio to 1 amp and then run a daisy chain to the other amp with rca jack. Is that right or should it be wired differently
Do the cross overs that came with your components..... Counsel out frequencies that you are EQing on your head unit.....
You have to adjust both to get them to work together for the best sound
I was just wondering the same thing.
I have mine set at 50 hz because I thought 80 hz was getting into the mid-range. Am I wrong about that?
Thank you so much u are really the best 💪🏾💪🏾
Should I adjust crossover on my JVC kw788bh if I’m tapped into my factory amp?
How do you set your amp to full pass? It just shows a dial of numbers. It doesnt turn off. Min or max. Full pass it means the highest number?
Is 120 hz too high for a 8.4 inch alpine? Its a stock sub for a 2016 wrangler but i have mine on an amp since my jeep was a base model it disnt come with the sub. I got it on 4ohms 150watt rms currently around that 100 to 120 range on amp and 120 on head unit and it seems punchy
i want to like but you got 420 likes an i ain gonna be the one to change that
Keep on being real big guy,most people get brain washed on other people's opinions. Oh by the way I now call my truck the little sleeper,lol
Thank u frfr got 2 12s on a 8k dropin
Man thanks 🙏🏾 a million
I just install the same head unit in my ram I have only stock location kicker dash,front doors and rear doors and a single 10 any insight on how to set the eq let me know and thanks
So you turn the xover on amp all the way up in order to use the head units xover?
I found out the db slope for both crossovers will add up as well. u had 24db crossover on headunit and 24 db crossover on amp so I had a 48db slope! 🤯
Your actually adding in phase distortion by using 2 lp filters. Either use the amp or the head unit never both. ;)
@@michaelyoung7911 I figured that out the hard way. I was only clamping 900w from a Salt 4. Used just the lpf on the amp and got 3500w
Very Good Information.
Front I have a TW gain what should it be set at
Hey man maybe you help after installing a after market headunit (kenwood) with after market rear and front speakers , no subs no amps, my soeakers sound terrible worst than before, coukdnt even turn up without distortion, so i got a 4 channel amp to power those speakers and my front speakers are so quiet compared to the rear, its bad enoughy i have to turn the head unit volume damm near to 30 just to get some loadness cant harley hear anything at 15, but why is my front speakers so low
Great channel
What do you have your db gain set too
Ok so I’m really a newbie in this. So I do have a question? You said put the amp on full pass I get that so what do you do with subsonic feature of the amp?
my amp doesn't have a full range option,my question is what to do in that case?
I need you to tune my system. 😃👍🔥
How do I achieve hpf 2000hz on a 4channel amp? For some ds18 920 tweeters? Are the hpf numbers ×10? Help 😢
you have way less frequencys as me, can i send you a picture of mine and u can help me set it up? like u have 25 40 63 and i have 20 24 29 36 45 53 65, do i need to make this to the same position or not?
Morning, so you are using your Sub rca’s @ 80hz going into your epicenter and have your low pass on your amp wide open?
yes....at times i crossover up to 100hz, but not very often. the epicenter just needs to have a full range sub signal, not a full range signal. above 100hz it is doing nothing. remember its for bass restoration, not mid.
@@M.B.Enclosures ok, I have mine receiving a full range signal from my rear rca output. I’m going to try the sub rca’s and play with it. Thanks for responding my brother
@@M.B.Enclosures I always thought the epicenter needed to see signals up to 200 or so Hz. Audio Control says give it a full range signal. I'm not clear on how it restores bass, maybe it looks for trace harmonics one octave up. I wish Audio Control was more clear on this. I'd like to try an epicenter.
@@JasonWW2000 Audio Control instructed me to set it up (2) different ways. The first rep said to use my HU xover at its highest setting and set my amp xover around 80-125. Then the 2nd rep said to give it a full range signal from my rear channel rca’s making the need of an Y splitter rca to run my rear 5.25 coax’s. I just did it MBE’s way and it sounds much better. I set my fronts 63hz 18db , rear 80hz 18db and sub 63hz 12db. Much better balance especially when I apply the epicenter knob.
Wat is beat to use head unit or Equalizer can you do a video on it please thanks
Are you using a separate equalizer?
my amp doesn't have a full range option,my question is what to do in that case?
You set it to the highest setting. Yours is like mine,
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And it did 😭👍🏾😊
I have 80hz 12 db oct then I have a gain setting
Hi Sir, what model head unit is that?
Stinger Head unit.
👌🏿👌🏿
Need someone to tell me this. I’ve heard a lot of people saying to turn the LPF on my sub amp to the max and set it on my headunit. Could someone please explain.
Yea it’s full pass once it’s set to max on amp so you can tune through HU
What is so level?
We need to tax the trolls
So where should you set ur low pass filter and subsonic at
depends on enclosure and sub...there is no generic setting
Ok thanks for the info
low pass usually 60 to 80 hz. listen to what sounds best to you. I tend to use higher slopes like 18 or 24. if I used 6 I'd get vocals from my sub which I don't like. So experiment and see what you like.
@@michaelbaldwin8869 For subsonic, you just want to reduce the excess excursion below the tuned frequency (in a ported box). A lot depends on how accurate your subsonic frequencies are. most amps have crap subsonic filters. If you have a digital unit and your box is tuned to 30hz, you might have decent extension to 25 to 27 roughly. So set the subsonic to be 3db down at 22hz. Its probably going to be trial and error. Set it so you reduce excursion below the tuned frequency but not so low that you reduce usable output. If you have a sealed box you may not even need it.
@@JasonWW2000 thanks for the info I have a skar rp 1500
You need to clarify if your front and rear door speakers are using LPF or HPF. Just showing your stereo is pointless.
Ps mbe you know alot
What deck is that
Hey man i know its a old video what deck is this is
Stinger heigh10, purchased the same one for my challenger
Hi do you think my 21 inch sub in a 6 order 9.5 ft3 box 1:1 5000 rms do you think it be loud? and what nummbers do you think it will make?
What brand radio is that?
stinger 10"
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You speaking french to ppl who need to hear it in layman's term.