Glad I found your video's. I was 60 and recovering from serval health problems. Had always just done too much volume and exercises. Went with your approach and 4 years later interred my first powerlifting contest. My total was 1516 in the 140kg above group 60 to 64 it was a uspa event. Just wanted to thank you for putting these on.
This is why I like Starting Strength so much, everybody looks big and strong because they are big and strong. Conversely, nobody looks like they’ll be in a male bikini pageant or on the cover of Muscle & Fitness anytime soon.
ryan rogers 😂 I agree completely, that’s all diet. Rip emphasizes that eating in a calorie surplus and gaining fat is essential to getting strong. Dieting to look good for a few months will result in seeing the musculature that looks good. That’s my simple opinion.
@ryan rogers I've also never seen a record breaking powerlifter credit starting strength or the Texas method. Seems to be a program that's good to get you started and then you should move on.
Hi Rip just want to say thank you for your knowledge and programming as a former rugby player coach football player and very accident prone person I had a triple knee surgery everything but my MCL was completely torn my leg went backwards your program has made me stronger and your understanding of movement patterns versus muscle groups I would suggest your program to anyone I know yes I have a degree in exercise science which I have not used because you make the point it can be considered useless I do have a question though if you could answer it for me what should I do about my numbers on the squat and dead lift I feel that my cadaver ligaments can only handle so much and I’m at this breaking point of eating more gaining more mass so I could get bigger to handle more weight because I do wanna be stronger or just maintaining I would rather get stronger of course but my knee especially my LCL feels to swell upAfter my workouts I have upped my load to 5 x 5 versus 3 x 5 and hope in the near future to invest into your program as a trainer in Omaha Nebraska because I believe so strongly in what you preach thank you again hopefully I can make the podcast some day
I relate to this also I tore my LCL while being strong at 205. Not being able to squat/ DL or Bench properly I lost 25lbs and tons of muscle once I recovered I ran the novice program and gained a 295 squat 465 DL and a 275 bench. RIP is a genius I recommend to all who ask
Most upper body workouts without using your lower body would be useless. Bench, OHP, standing curls etc all use lower body. All pulling rowing etc uses your upper body. How can you do a true upper lower?
Just last week you were explaining that you eliminated front squats from the SS program because it eliminated the glutes and hamstrings from the lift. That to me sounds like you are, in fact, thinking about muscle groups in the formation of your program. Wouldn't it be more accurate to state that your approach avoids artificially isolating particular muscle groups in order to focus training muscle groups to work together to create force?
In reality, front squats were removed because doing the low bar back squat more often makes you stronger than dedicating time to front squat. This is the case due to the fact that the low bar back squat involves more muscle mass. The movement patterns that are utilized were chosen because they involve the most muscle mass across the longest effective range of motion, & this is important because that's how you become stronger. Involving more muscle in the movement puts more weight on the bar, more weight without altering technique makes you stronger. Ultimately, it is all about making you stronger. Using all of your muscle mass & incrementally increasing the weight you can move is how that is done. The argument rip made was why do a movement that neglects the hamstrings & glutes - thus reducing the weight on the bar & the potential strength that can be gained - when you can very easily involve both muscle groups by altering your technique?
Agreed. Also consider the fact that they use overhead press without legs instead of push press because they need a movement that is focused on the upper body
@@Abraham_Kist-Okazaki They removed the front squat because it doesn't make you as strong as low bar squatting more frequently does. The reason for this is because the latter utilizes more muscle but that comes secondary - the goal is to make you stronger & muscle is irrelevant beyond its capacity to assist in strength progress.
Its not really bodybuilding, its the ignorance of people and their inability notice good info. Yes the image bodybuilding cast over it does over shadow true fitness and health so you are right to big degree.
Oi Rip you should focus on fat groups... like the fat on your belly, I suggest you do AB workouts to do targeted fat loss on your big fat belly... I would love to see you use an AB wheel, it would be amusing... hehe
@@ChaostotheVII Hardly anyone on SS has a significant amount of muscle mass, from the novices to the peope who've been with them for years to the coaches. If you're been lifing weights for a couple of years and you can squat 4 or 5 plates but you don't look like you lift, you're probably doing something wrong. Unless you literally don't want to look like you lift but that's a very small minority, nobody minds looking good even if that's not their main goal. And it's a shame because using SS as the basis you can perfectly well build a decent body by just adding a few accessory lifts for a bit more targetted volume here and there, but unfortunately with this "we don't think about muscle groups" mentality and their minimalist approach to volume and assistance exercises most people in it seem to think that adding half a dozen sets of lateral raises and dumbbell curls per week will somehow ruin their training and they'll stop getting stronger on the squat for it.
@@BigUriel So, following your logic, majority of the Olympic weightlifters are doing something wrong too? Because most of them have belly, no chiseled pecs, no visible abs... ( I'm not talking about those in 61 kg class) Yes, there is that deplorable "minority", myself included, that lift without taking fifty selfies every time they step in squat rack. And don't give monkey's ballsack if their waist is exactly 45% of their height. I'm 55 and started SS three years ago desperately trying to do something about the back pain that almost made me quit my job. And never looked back. Every morning when I get out of bed (without clenching my teeth) I thank God and Rip. And that is my story.
Glad I found your video's. I was 60 and recovering from serval health problems. Had always just done too much volume and exercises. Went with your approach and 4 years later interred my first powerlifting contest. My total was 1516 in the 140kg above group 60 to 64 it was a uspa event. Just wanted to thank you for putting these on.
This is why I like Starting Strength so much, everybody looks big and strong because they are big and strong. Conversely, nobody looks like they’ll be in a male bikini pageant or on the cover of Muscle & Fitness anytime soon.
ryan rogers 😂 I agree completely, that’s all diet. Rip emphasizes that eating in a calorie surplus and gaining fat is essential to getting strong. Dieting to look good for a few months will result in seeing the musculature that looks good. That’s my simple opinion.
@ryan rogers I've also never seen a record breaking powerlifter credit starting strength or the Texas method. Seems to be a program that's good to get you started and then you should move on.
If I needed a medeivel army I'd hit up a Starting Strength convention
@@cliffonator1111 it's almost like there's a clue in the name 🤔
@@sharkwolf7788 They could credit for getting started but it's almost like I also mentioned the Texas Method too.
My skeleton has a crazy pump after watching this
My bones are full mast
Did your lat bones end up giving you wings ??
So you’re saying barbell training for strength is... functional??!!
Why wouldn't it be? I assume you are joking?
Mr. Monitor very much joking
Mr. Monitor rippetoe has shit on “functional” training at pretty much every opportunity. So the guy was joking about his diction choice.
Off course, son!
Boa tarde RIP, de Portugal, um seguidor devoto.
Obrigado por partilhar a sua sabedoria com o mundo.
Yes!!!!
"...all of our muscles are our favourite muscles..."
That's it, MOVEMENT patterns, everything else falls into place!
4:16 this is so true. It feels so wrong to train 1 or 2 muscle groups per workout and leaving out the rest.
Ive had more gains by concentrating on the movement, and I thank you sir
THE CLEAR T.O. Really
@@migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 yeah for real.
THE CLEAR T.O. You mean movement patterns
@@migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 no, I mean ive added more weight and progressed faster with 3 sets of 5 then 5 sets of 5. no need to be a dick
@@TheClearT.O-911 i experience it too. after doing split for many years so I give it a try. amazing result tho
It might sound insulting for Starting Strength, but this video also describes functional training.
Hi Rip just want to say thank you for your knowledge and programming as a former rugby player coach football player and very accident prone person I had a triple knee surgery everything but my MCL was completely torn my leg went backwards your program has made me stronger and your understanding of movement patterns versus muscle groups I would suggest your program to anyone I know yes I have a degree in exercise science which I have not used because you make the point it can be considered useless I do have a question though if you could answer it for me what should I do about my numbers on the squat and dead lift I feel that my cadaver ligaments can only handle so much and I’m at this breaking point of eating more gaining more mass so I could get bigger to handle more weight because I do wanna be stronger or just maintaining I would rather get stronger of course but my knee especially my LCL feels to swell upAfter my workouts I have upped my load to 5 x 5 versus 3 x 5 and hope in the near future to invest into your program as a trainer in Omaha Nebraska because I believe so strongly in what you preach thank you again hopefully I can make the podcast some day
RIP
I relate to this also I tore my LCL while being strong at 205. Not being able to squat/ DL or Bench properly I lost 25lbs and tons of muscle once I recovered I ran the novice program and gained a 295 squat 465 DL and a 275 bench. RIP is a genius I recommend to all who ask
Wendler’s latest iteration of his program has adopted more of a full body approach as well.
I trained today and just did biceps and traps
Hey! That looks like one of my favorite routines-just add in calf raises, and you’re golden 💪🏼
You forgot lat raises for sets of 17.
Thank you I just started training them all five times per week. It seemed weird to just train a goup 1 per week lol
Thank You! ✨😃
Which barbell exercise should I do to strengthen my bladder so I can stop pissing myself? This topic is not covered in the SS book
xd
I'd like to know his opinion on 5x5, for young lifters of course.
This guy is AWESOME!!!🦍🦉💯🔥
As a represent of upper lower split I have to say I partially agree but not completely
Most upper body workouts without using your lower body would be useless. Bench, OHP, standing curls etc all use lower body. All pulling rowing etc uses your upper body. How can you do a true upper lower?
@@popcornto6032 maybe not if you only do one exercise per workout lol
your funny 😁 asf mane enjoy listening 👂 to your show/podcast..
Not concerned with my lat spread?! Ugh.
Train muscles through movements. #squathingehpushpullvpushpulllungescarry
Clearly.
I dont care what rippetoe says i will never stop isolating my rear delts
Just last week you were explaining that you eliminated front squats from the SS program because it eliminated the glutes and hamstrings from the lift. That to me sounds like you are, in fact, thinking about muscle groups in the formation of your program. Wouldn't it be more accurate to state that your approach avoids artificially isolating particular muscle groups in order to focus training muscle groups to work together to create force?
Yeah i think ur correct.
In reality, front squats were removed because doing the low bar back squat more often makes you stronger than dedicating time to front squat. This is the case due to the fact that the low bar back squat involves more muscle mass.
The movement patterns that are utilized were chosen because they involve the most muscle mass across the longest effective range of motion, & this is important because that's how you become stronger.
Involving more muscle in the movement puts more weight on the bar, more weight without altering technique makes you stronger. Ultimately, it is all about making you stronger. Using all of your muscle mass & incrementally increasing the weight you can move is how that is done.
The argument rip made was why do a movement that neglects the hamstrings & glutes - thus reducing the weight on the bar & the potential strength that can be gained - when you can very easily involve both muscle groups by altering your technique?
@@dariusgoatland10 In reality, I am uncertain as to the point you are trying to make.
Agreed. Also consider the fact that they use overhead press without legs instead of push press because they need a movement that is focused on the upper body
@@Abraham_Kist-Okazaki They removed the front squat because it doesn't make you as strong as low bar squatting more frequently does. The reason for this is because the latter utilizes more muscle but that comes secondary - the goal is to make you stronger & muscle is irrelevant beyond its capacity to assist in strength progress.
Rip, you're as sharp as a marble, and as handsome as you are smart.
Bodybuilding: the worst thing to happen to the concept and promotion of weight training for health.
Its not really bodybuilding, its the ignorance of people and their inability notice good info. Yes the image bodybuilding cast over it does over shadow true fitness and health so you are right to big degree.
Hey RIP! You need to get some sleep my friend.
Rip the best.
You alright, Rip? You look a bit shakey at the start.
Its trt. And burbon
Trying times.
Woah there Rip, you almost called barbell training "functional training", chill... don't scare me like that again
i think you're talking about systems thinking, rip. this is a really great video about it th-cam.com/video/OqEeIG8aPPk/w-d-xo.html
That's why posers don't squat and deadlift.
Oi Rip you should focus on fat groups... like the fat on your belly, I suggest you do AB workouts to do targeted fat loss on your big fat belly... I would love to see you use an AB wheel, it would be amusing... hehe
Your comment was so lame it won't even make it on a "coment from the haters" segment.
Unless you're just joking of course.
@@rustyblade9366 lol... I was very saddened that it did not go on "commentzzzzz frommmmmm da hatazzzzzzz"
"We don't think about muscle groups"
It show, nobody on SS looks like they lift lol
Yes, surpisingly people on a novice strength training problem dont have a significant ammount of muscle mass yet.
@@ChaostotheVII He's talking about the starting strength coaches and stuff. hes not talking about the people doing the program.
@@ChaostotheVII Hardly anyone on SS has a significant amount of muscle mass, from the novices to the peope who've been with them for years to the coaches.
If you're been lifing weights for a couple of years and you can squat 4 or 5 plates but you don't look like you lift, you're probably doing something wrong. Unless you literally don't want to look like you lift but that's a very small minority, nobody minds looking good even if that's not their main goal.
And it's a shame because using SS as the basis you can perfectly well build a decent body by just adding a few accessory lifts for a bit more targetted volume here and there, but unfortunately with this "we don't think about muscle groups" mentality and their minimalist approach to volume and assistance exercises most people in it seem to think that adding half a dozen sets of lateral raises and dumbbell curls per week will somehow ruin their training and they'll stop getting stronger on the squat for it.
@@BigUriel
So, following your logic, majority of the Olympic weightlifters are doing something wrong too? Because most of them have belly, no chiseled pecs, no visible abs... ( I'm not talking about those in 61 kg class)
Yes, there is that deplorable "minority", myself included, that lift without taking fifty selfies every time they step in squat rack. And don't give monkey's ballsack if their waist is exactly 45% of their height.
I'm 55 and started SS three years ago desperately trying to do something about the back pain that almost made me quit my job. And never looked back. Every morning when I get out of bed (without clenching my teeth) I thank God and Rip. And that is my story.
@@milanpetrovic9556 Amazing! 🙌