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  • @davidmorgan6282
    @davidmorgan6282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    So you’re saying barbell training for strength is... functional??!!

    • @mr.monitor.
      @mr.monitor. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why wouldn't it be? I assume you are joking?

    • @davidmorgan6282
      @davidmorgan6282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mr. Monitor very much joking

    • @nashwilliams5852
      @nashwilliams5852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mr. Monitor rippetoe has shit on “functional” training at pretty much every opportunity. So the guy was joking about his diction choice.

    • @marcourbina4890
      @marcourbina4890 ปีที่แล้ว

      Off course, son!

  • @Account2129
    @Account2129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    My skeleton has a crazy pump after watching this

  • @KennethRice-ne1vi
    @KennethRice-ne1vi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Glad I found your video's. I was 60 and recovering from serval health problems. Had always just done too much volume and exercises. Went with your approach and 4 years later interred my first powerlifting contest. My total was 1516 in the 140kg above group 60 to 64 it was a uspa event. Just wanted to thank you for putting these on.

  • @crucifixgym
    @crucifixgym 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is why I like Starting Strength so much, everybody looks big and strong because they are big and strong. Conversely, nobody looks like they’ll be in a male bikini pageant or on the cover of Muscle & Fitness anytime soon.

    • @crucifixgym
      @crucifixgym 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ryan rogers 😂 I agree completely, that’s all diet. Rip emphasizes that eating in a calorie surplus and gaining fat is essential to getting strong. Dieting to look good for a few months will result in seeing the musculature that looks good. That’s my simple opinion.

    • @cliffonator1111
      @cliffonator1111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ryan rogers I've also never seen a record breaking powerlifter credit starting strength or the Texas method. Seems to be a program that's good to get you started and then you should move on.

    • @IgnatiusCheese
      @IgnatiusCheese 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If I needed a medeivel army I'd hit up a Starting Strength convention

    • @sharkwolf7788
      @sharkwolf7788 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@cliffonator1111 it's almost like there's a clue in the name 🤔

    • @cliffonator1111
      @cliffonator1111 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sharkwolf7788 They could credit for getting started but it's almost like I also mentioned the Texas Method too.

  • @joaobaptista169
    @joaobaptista169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Boa tarde RIP, de Portugal, um seguidor devoto.
    Obrigado por partilhar a sua sabedoria com o mundo.

  • @ggrthemostgodless8713
    @ggrthemostgodless8713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yes!!!!
    "...all of our muscles are our favourite muscles..."
    That's it, MOVEMENT patterns, everything else falls into place!

  • @TheClearT.O-911
    @TheClearT.O-911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Ive had more gains by concentrating on the movement, and I thank you sir

    • @migueladrianvalevelazquez8703
      @migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      THE CLEAR T.O. Really

    • @TheClearT.O-911
      @TheClearT.O-911 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 yeah for real.

    • @migueladrianvalevelazquez8703
      @migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      THE CLEAR T.O. You mean movement patterns

    • @TheClearT.O-911
      @TheClearT.O-911 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 no, I mean ive added more weight and progressed faster with 3 sets of 5 then 5 sets of 5. no need to be a dick

    • @yettamon956
      @yettamon956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheClearT.O-911 i experience it too. after doing split for many years so I give it a try. amazing result tho

  • @Alopkaable
    @Alopkaable ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:16 this is so true. It feels so wrong to train 1 or 2 muscle groups per workout and leaving out the rest.

  • @fleggaroo
    @fleggaroo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Rip just want to say thank you for your knowledge and programming as a former rugby player coach football player and very accident prone person I had a triple knee surgery everything but my MCL was completely torn my leg went backwards your program has made me stronger and your understanding of movement patterns versus muscle groups I would suggest your program to anyone I know yes I have a degree in exercise science which I have not used because you make the point it can be considered useless I do have a question though if you could answer it for me what should I do about my numbers on the squat and dead lift I feel that my cadaver ligaments can only handle so much and I’m at this breaking point of eating more gaining more mass so I could get bigger to handle more weight because I do wanna be stronger or just maintaining I would rather get stronger of course but my knee especially my LCL feels to swell upAfter my workouts I have upped my load to 5 x 5 versus 3 x 5 and hope in the near future to invest into your program as a trainer in Omaha Nebraska because I believe so strongly in what you preach thank you again hopefully I can make the podcast some day

    • @fleggaroo
      @fleggaroo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      RIP

    • @CSheezy23
      @CSheezy23 ปีที่แล้ว

      I relate to this also I tore my LCL while being strong at 205. Not being able to squat/ DL or Bench properly I lost 25lbs and tons of muscle once I recovered I ran the novice program and gained a 295 squat 465 DL and a 275 bench. RIP is a genius I recommend to all who ask

  • @reb00table
    @reb00table 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It might sound insulting for Starting Strength, but this video also describes functional training.

  • @mikegray8164
    @mikegray8164 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wendler’s latest iteration of his program has adopted more of a full body approach as well.

  • @sweetdreamscr
    @sweetdreamscr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you I just started training them all five times per week. It seemed weird to just train a goup 1 per week lol

  • @mrsprinkles1641
    @mrsprinkles1641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I trained today and just did biceps and traps

    • @doubtingthomas9117
      @doubtingthomas9117 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! That looks like one of my favorite routines-just add in calf raises, and you’re golden 💪🏼

    • @gsquared2394
      @gsquared2394 ปีที่แล้ว

      You forgot lat raises for sets of 17.

  • @jakobwing9660
    @jakobwing9660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a represent of upper lower split I have to say I partially agree but not completely

    • @mr.monitor.
      @mr.monitor. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most upper body workouts without using your lower body would be useless. Bench, OHP, standing curls etc all use lower body. All pulling rowing etc uses your upper body. How can you do a true upper lower?

    • @mr.monitor.
      @mr.monitor. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@popcornto6032 maybe not if you only do one exercise per workout lol

  • @Rizzo2185
    @Rizzo2185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Which barbell exercise should I do to strengthen my bladder so I can stop pissing myself? This topic is not covered in the SS book

  • @wreppar
    @wreppar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your funny 😁 asf mane enjoy listening 👂 to your show/podcast..

  • @gojuboxer4224
    @gojuboxer4224 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy is AWESOME!!!🦍🦉💯🔥

  • @a111oveWrldWde
    @a111oveWrldWde 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You! ✨😃

  • @Abraham_Kist-Okazaki
    @Abraham_Kist-Okazaki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just last week you were explaining that you eliminated front squats from the SS program because it eliminated the glutes and hamstrings from the lift. That to me sounds like you are, in fact, thinking about muscle groups in the formation of your program. Wouldn't it be more accurate to state that your approach avoids artificially isolating particular muscle groups in order to focus training muscle groups to work together to create force?

    • @ilyassvids23
      @ilyassvids23 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah i think ur correct.

    • @dariusgoatland10
      @dariusgoatland10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In reality, front squats were removed because doing the low bar back squat more often makes you stronger than dedicating time to front squat. This is the case due to the fact that the low bar back squat involves more muscle mass.
      The movement patterns that are utilized were chosen because they involve the most muscle mass across the longest effective range of motion, & this is important because that's how you become stronger.
      Involving more muscle in the movement puts more weight on the bar, more weight without altering technique makes you stronger. Ultimately, it is all about making you stronger. Using all of your muscle mass & incrementally increasing the weight you can move is how that is done.
      The argument rip made was why do a movement that neglects the hamstrings & glutes - thus reducing the weight on the bar & the potential strength that can be gained - when you can very easily involve both muscle groups by altering your technique?

    • @Abraham_Kist-Okazaki
      @Abraham_Kist-Okazaki 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dariusgoatland10 In reality, I am uncertain as to the point you are trying to make.

    • @aumurphy
      @aumurphy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. Also consider the fact that they use overhead press without legs instead of push press because they need a movement that is focused on the upper body

    • @dariusgoatland10
      @dariusgoatland10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Abraham_Kist-Okazaki They removed the front squat because it doesn't make you as strong as low bar squatting more frequently does. The reason for this is because the latter utilizes more muscle but that comes secondary - the goal is to make you stronger & muscle is irrelevant beyond its capacity to assist in strength progress.

  • @stergiossavvas5109
    @stergiossavvas5109 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to know his opinion on 5x5, for young lifters of course.

  • @bigt9905
    @bigt9905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bodybuilding: the worst thing to happen to the concept and promotion of weight training for health.

    • @hunterraoulduke
      @hunterraoulduke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not really bodybuilding, its the ignorance of people and their inability notice good info. Yes the image bodybuilding cast over it does over shadow true fitness and health so you are right to big degree.

  • @jippmaster1436
    @jippmaster1436 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont care what rippetoe says i will never stop isolating my rear delts

  • @jeffriggins9106
    @jeffriggins9106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not concerned with my lat spread?! Ugh.

  • @billsmoke4198
    @billsmoke4198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You alright, Rip? You look a bit shakey at the start.

  • @akhil1753
    @akhil1753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Train muscles through movements. #squathingehpushpullvpushpulllungescarry

  • @TheNietzschian
    @TheNietzschian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clearly.

  • @VegetoStevieD
    @VegetoStevieD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rip, you're as sharp as a marble, and as handsome as you are smart.

  • @tmac21889
    @tmac21889 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey RIP! You need to get some sleep my friend.

  • @rustyblade9366
    @rustyblade9366 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woah there Rip, you almost called barbell training "functional training", chill... don't scare me like that again

  • @dimpsbiliou5478
    @dimpsbiliou5478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rip the best.

  • @hoorayimhelping3978
    @hoorayimhelping3978 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think you're talking about systems thinking, rip. this is a really great video about it th-cam.com/video/OqEeIG8aPPk/w-d-xo.html

  • @marcusdowell9062
    @marcusdowell9062 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oi Rip you should focus on fat groups... like the fat on your belly, I suggest you do AB workouts to do targeted fat loss on your big fat belly... I would love to see you use an AB wheel, it would be amusing... hehe

    • @rustyblade9366
      @rustyblade9366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your comment was so lame it won't even make it on a "coment from the haters" segment.
      Unless you're just joking of course.

    • @marcusdowell9062
      @marcusdowell9062 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rustyblade9366 lol... I was very saddened that it did not go on "commentzzzzz frommmmmm da hatazzzzzzz"

  • @joebot9309
    @joebot9309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's why posers don't squat and deadlift.

  • @BigUriel
    @BigUriel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "We don't think about muscle groups"
    It show, nobody on SS looks like they lift lol

    • @ChaostotheVII
      @ChaostotheVII 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, surpisingly people on a novice strength training problem dont have a significant ammount of muscle mass yet.

    • @dragonfireshield1976
      @dragonfireshield1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ChaostotheVII He's talking about the starting strength coaches and stuff. hes not talking about the people doing the program.

    • @BigUriel
      @BigUriel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ChaostotheVII Hardly anyone on SS has a significant amount of muscle mass, from the novices to the peope who've been with them for years to the coaches.
      If you're been lifing weights for a couple of years and you can squat 4 or 5 plates but you don't look like you lift, you're probably doing something wrong. Unless you literally don't want to look like you lift but that's a very small minority, nobody minds looking good even if that's not their main goal.
      And it's a shame because using SS as the basis you can perfectly well build a decent body by just adding a few accessory lifts for a bit more targetted volume here and there, but unfortunately with this "we don't think about muscle groups" mentality and their minimalist approach to volume and assistance exercises most people in it seem to think that adding half a dozen sets of lateral raises and dumbbell curls per week will somehow ruin their training and they'll stop getting stronger on the squat for it.

    • @milanpetrovic9556
      @milanpetrovic9556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BigUriel
      So, following your logic, majority of the Olympic weightlifters are doing something wrong too? Because most of them have belly, no chiseled pecs, no visible abs... ( I'm not talking about those in 61 kg class)
      Yes, there is that deplorable "minority", myself included, that lift without taking fifty selfies every time they step in squat rack. And don't give monkey's ballsack if their waist is exactly 45% of their height.
      I'm 55 and started SS three years ago desperately trying to do something about the back pain that almost made me quit my job. And never looked back. Every morning when I get out of bed (without clenching my teeth) I thank God and Rip. And that is my story.

    • @g-mannG
      @g-mannG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@milanpetrovic9556 Amazing! 🙌

  • @CSheezy23
    @CSheezy23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Overall run this program. Novice helps your form and gain strength on big 3/ 4 including OHP. Gaining strength increases muscle building. Whose has more muscle a guy squatting 405-495lbs fir 5 or someone who does leg extensions 3-5x8-1 lol it’s obvious 😂

  • @CSheezy23
    @CSheezy23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only muscle groups I train specific are the hips by performing hip thrust (with your girl) on Fri-Sun. Other then that just pure strength with a BB 🫡😤😂

    • @CSheezy23
      @CSheezy23 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-ln3jy4oc9t when you knock on a door it’s a polite bang like bang it 2-3 times for fun 😂

    • @Kripton764
      @Kripton764 ปีที่แล้ว

      And here I was wondering where the hell my bar on Fridays and Sunday.