The 2024 Honda Prologue Is The Chevy/Honda Half-Breed You've Been Waiting For. Seriously!

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  • @Richey24
    @Richey24 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Alex really is the best car reviewer.

    • @markfitzpatrick6692
      @markfitzpatrick6692 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Way better than the Kyle Connor bash fest

    • @freeaccess5905
      @freeaccess5905 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markfitzpatrick6692 exactly. Alex describes features as they are with less Tesla bias than many other reviewers. Alex impressed me a while ago when he went into depth describing the technical differences between the Toyota and Honda hybrid systems. One of the reasons why I bought a 2023 CRV hybrid.

    • @StephRich888
      @StephRich888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally agree to the point I subscribed to the channel

  • @Mamo878
    @Mamo878 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    Great point about the Prologue having CarPlay, whereas the Blazer intentionally left it out. Wtf was GM thinking?

    • @GeorgeKnighton
      @GeorgeKnighton 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      What they were thinking is data mining and reducing licensing costs, I guess. It's hard to get data while complying with Apple's restrictions.

    • @JohnSmith-bt4lf
      @JohnSmith-bt4lf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      They want you to pay for their data plan instead of using your existing phone plan for free.

    • @Mamo878
      @Mamo878 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@JohnSmith-bt4lf
      But if you buy another make of vehicle precisely because GM does _not_ include CarPlay, GM makes exactly ZERO dollars from a data plan and data mining.
      Not to mention a lost sale of the entire vehicle, plus service, plus parts, etc. over the life of the car.

    • @cypvh74
      @cypvh74 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnSmith-bt4lfexcept their cars come with 8 years of data free.

    • @GeorgeKnighton
      @GeorgeKnighton 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JohnSmith-bt4lf : I don't know how much the GM costs, but Ford and Tesla are only 10.00/month. It is hard to imagine that as a serious revenue stream, and I'm still guessing (I admit "guessing") that it is a data mining ploy to which Apple will not agree.

  • @arbitrary76
    @arbitrary76 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Well done Honda for not going crazy with the styling. Very clean exterior looks, with a more conventional interior than the Tesla. We have a Model Y and a CR-V, and I could see my other half preferring the Prologue to the Y for its conventional controls. I wish the Prologue had a 40/20/40 split rear seat and faster charging, but other than that I really like it.

  • @jeffbrooker5183
    @jeffbrooker5183 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    The Elite version is very attractive. I love the teal color. I like the more normal look of the car. I just wish the price wasn't so high.

    • @nevco8774
      @nevco8774 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then buy a pre-owned one with low mileage which can save a lot of money considering how fast EVs depreciate these days. I would not go for AWD but instead prefer the longer range, lighter, less expensive vehicle. The Honda warranty should be still active to feel comfortable.

    • @armandomolina2034
      @armandomolina2034 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't let the price deter you. The yearly cost will be about the same as other, less expensive-ICE cars when you factor in fuel cost and maintenance.

  • @tobykunta2687
    @tobykunta2687 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Sir Mix A Lot reference👋👋

    • @aliendroneservices6621
      @aliendroneservices6621 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      4:55 12:06 12:07 14:53

    • @MoneyMaples
      @MoneyMaples 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂

    • @lionintu
      @lionintu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LmaaaoooOoo

  • @Enhydra_l
    @Enhydra_l 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Worth noting that while gas powered GM vehicles tend to be a bit… patchy on reliability, their EVs are historically quite good. Bolt EV was a remarkably reliable car (speaking from personal experience), the battery recall is the one blemish and that wasn’t GM’s fault.

    • @chriso5774
      @chriso5774 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Volt and Bolt are solid, but the Lyriq is loaded with software bugs and quality issues, even after two years. If Honda can make a reliable bug free vehicle using the same GM components, then that’s a double shaming on GM!

  • @GeorgeKnighton
    @GeorgeKnighton 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Sure, I'd think about it if I were in the market. No software bugs, includes CarPlay 2? Over a Blazer EV? Sure, I'd definitely buy the Prologue before I bought a Blazer EV. :-)

  • @nc3826
    @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    For DC fast charging please add 10 to 80% charging times..... Since peak charging rates are very misleading. Personally I prefer charging curve but that would just confuse those people.

    • @FuncleChuck
      @FuncleChuck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's maybe a little early to know what that will be on the production model - but this is a GM Ultium system, so expect it to perform like others: Lyriq, Silverado EV, Blazer, Equinox, etc.

    • @alaind831
      @alaind831 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you mean 20-80%. Yeah Tesla I only get 254kw for a very short time from 20% tad longer from 14% which been my lowest so far.

    • @dennisc6961
      @dennisc6961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was able to charge from 35% to 80% in just 30 minutes.

  • @cdbuiles
    @cdbuiles 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Alex I am shocked =) you didnt mention the now-rare turning ligths in *amber* on this vehicle.

    • @amigajoe
      @amigajoe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amber should be the ‘norm’ !!

  • @vishaldev13
    @vishaldev13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Also, the BZ4X is such a low bar to set. ;)

    • @AAutoBuyersGuide
      @AAutoBuyersGuide  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Honestly, and no disrespect to Honda, but that's truly the Prologue's most direct competitor. Honda shoppers seem to rarely cross shop other brands.

  • @Unchainedmaple888
    @Unchainedmaple888 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I'd much rather have a HR-V hybrid. The rest of the world already has that in the form of the ZR-V, don't know why Honda is so slow to bring it to America

    • @xzimxzim
      @xzimxzim 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In 2016 when I bought my HR-V. I was hoping Acura would have brought the CDX over from Japan. It was hybrid 7 speed DCT and I think it even had SH-AWD. Probably would have really boosted Acura sales when the sub-compact market was really taking off.

    • @f181234
      @f181234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s a Completely different car

    • @xzimxzim
      @xzimxzim 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@f181234 the second gen HR-V is the same as the ZR-V. The first gen HR-V had an Acura version called the CDX in china.

    • @hayduke4589
      @hayduke4589 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Subaru has been selling a hybrid Forester in Europe for years now. Stellantis sells dozens of EV models in Europe. Ford sells a PHEV Ranger in Australia. You have to ask why not here?

  • @cypvh74
    @cypvh74 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Definitely would choose this over the Model Y.

  • @Bestfriend-650
    @Bestfriend-650 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I saw it in person yesterday and was very impressed by the design.

  • @abdelbolanos
    @abdelbolanos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Alex has the magic for doing car's review s ❤

  • @evolv.e
    @evolv.e 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Honda did great. Only thing it needs now is a front trunk and NACS access to be a competitive SUV.

  • @thejinn99
    @thejinn99 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My guess is that divider there in the middle is for support since that under area seems pretty wide. You could use something sturdier as a cover, but I suspect the cover may be heavy enough already, especially if you need it lift it without removing stuff off of the cover first.

  • @thejinn99
    @thejinn99 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Idk about you guys, but I'm digging the rain. I mean, it sucks for Alex, but it's kinda refreshing.

  • @michaelgarvin8621
    @michaelgarvin8621 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like that the prologue has apple carplay and android auto and is a good looking car 👍

  • @Sylvan_dB
    @Sylvan_dB 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After a year or so with all that shiny black plastic, I'd be tempted to take some 0000 steel wool and give it a good swirl. If the fingerprints weren't bad enough, the scattered scratches completely kill the deal. Don't know why so many car designers make this choice.
    Car overall looks good to me. Not entranced by the range vs price though. I'm not yet willing to consider "sleek and sexy." Like the box and the width. Shed a tear for the (lack of) performance.

  • @yo.adrian
    @yo.adrian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The small rear wiper blade is so small - it looks like a dog wagging its small tail.
    I mean, it's better than not having a wiper at all (because vehicles now come with rearview cameras as a standard safety feature nowadays) but that's only clearing the middle part of the rear window and not closer to the edge.

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      agreed.... That was almost laughable.... but I bet it wouldn't be that difficult to retrofit a longer one.... Just a thought....

    • @SueC56
      @SueC56 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the wiper blade is limited by the short height of the rear window.

    • @yo.adrian
      @yo.adrian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SueC56 I had a 2004 Mazda3 hatchback, and the rear window wiper was larger than this small SUV's rear window wiper.

  • @randymcnaught5583
    @randymcnaught5583 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We used to say: Co-operate to Graduate. I think this has taken the best of the 2 manufacturers. Kudos to GM & HONDA. Manufactures do need to get their price points lower though. Only the rich survive.😊

  • @kpmmsupervision1297
    @kpmmsupervision1297 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Nice to see Honda getting into this segment.

  • @michael.sierra
    @michael.sierra 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    So basically the Blazer EV with more conservative styling and Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. I think this one is a winner!

  • @JustAnotherPoorSlob
    @JustAnotherPoorSlob 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Headlights in the tablet are fine until you're out at night and realize that your valet didn't realize they were automatic and turned them off.

  • @rollmann00
    @rollmann00 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Alex, your wording on your reviews on these cars is exceptional! Especially physics based wording. Meaning, most people don’t understand how Cg plays a role at highway efficiency.
    Great review as usual!
    This and the Y are on my future (maybe) buy list.
    In the end, efficiency is king in EV’s so while I think this is a great vehicle, the model Y wins in my book, except no apple car play and regen options for gliding (which is more efficient as you so eloquently pointed out in previous video) pending driving habits.
    Keep up the great work! And all done well, in the rain!!!!

    • @freeaccess5905
      @freeaccess5905 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have test drove a Model Y and it has a very cheap and not user friendly interior. The Prologue has real buttons and controls you can use without having to go through the large screen. It has a much quieter, smoother ride. It reminds me of my old Audi Q5 virtual cockpit with having the navigation maps/directions on the screen in front of the steering wheel. A very useful feature while driving in heavy traffic in strange cities. Remember, Tesla overstates everything, their Cr may be less but their efficiency is not really better. Tesla is very expensive to insure. In my eye the Prologue wins hands down.

  • @aliendroneservices6621
    @aliendroneservices6621 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    8:39 9:00 9:17 9:23 "All-new *_Honda Motocompacto,_* a fun, fresh take on e-scooters, redefines affordable all-electric personal transportation with sleek and simple styling, an innovative, ultra-compact foldable design, and an MSRP of just $995." Nov 1, 2023

  • @aliendroneservices6621
    @aliendroneservices6621 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Call it a *_Hevy,_* or a *_Chonda._*

  • @ljpr360
    @ljpr360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    GM has a history of electrical issues. Why trust them with an EV? The Trailblazer EV is so bad they had to do a recall & stop sale.

  • @FuncleChuck
    @FuncleChuck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I guess I'm excited... but I think this is still a real "wait and see" for me. I like the Ioniq 5, and I don't think I'd touch any other BEV at this point until things shake out over the next 2-3 years.

  • @FlyingNDriving
    @FlyingNDriving 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alex is always great for no frills very informative and subtle information in a very compactish video. And he's always prefaces what's opinion, fact or best guess.

  • @falconalley7228
    @falconalley7228 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is Honda’s first electric……I am a Honda client but I would wait to see how this model plays out. They lost to Toyota on the hybrid models so I am skeptical right now to accept their invitation to upgrade my current Honda HRV to a hybrid or electric model.

  • @Zhenocnra
    @Zhenocnra 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If I had to choose right now between the Model Y and Prologue, it would be the Prologue. I cannot stand not having an instrument cluster. I like physical buttons where they are supposed to be on the Prologue instead of having to fuss with a screen of menu within menu on the Model Y. I really do not like the jelly bean look on the Model Y as well. The rear wiper is a bit too small on the Prologue but it's better than no rear wiper. The shifter on the column on the Prologue is a negative for me (I know, more space saved) since it's not where I want it to be. I agree, headlights on auto are the norm for me so it doesn't bother me with the Prologue.
    I like sentry mode and the bigger rear seats on the Model Y but the negatives from the Model Y for me just make the positives from the Prologue that much more better. I don't live in CA and I don't road trip ever either so charging isn't much of an issue for me.
    However if I'm going to pay almost 70k for the Elite trim, I would just spend more and get an EV9 GT-Line at that point. You might as well at that price point. Faster charging, much bigger, etc. The firmer EV9 suspension isn't a plus for me but the EV9 checks more boxes for me than the Prologue (and even more so than the Model Y). The federal tax credit doesn't apply to my situation so it doesn't matter to me that the Kia EV9 currently doesn't get it (or half even when the production moves to the US).

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not a Tesla fan but you can get aftermarket instrument clusters for the MY.... Which I'm hoping will happen for the Volvo EX30....

    • @trumpisastump9382
      @trumpisastump9382 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Elite trim is $59,000, not $70,000.And with the $7,500 tax credit it is about $51,500 for the top trim level (Elite).

    • @mowcowbell
      @mowcowbell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But the Tesla has a big price advantage. You can get a new Model Y long range for $41K (including the $7500 federal tax credit).

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Prologue has a big price advantage, which also gets the full tax credit.... Once you add in all the Elon nickel and dime fees ..

    • @mowcowbell
      @mowcowbell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ What is the price on a Prologue? And do they exist? A autotrader check within 200 miles of Dallas TX turns up zilch. Plenty of Tesla Model Y's available for immediate delivery on their website. The biggest advantage the Tesla has is the NO Dealership nickel and dime fees! Literally sign and drive off the lot.

  • @davdidit6
    @davdidit6 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shoes match the interior, well played Alex. Attention to detail, that is why you are my favorite reviewer. Also, the dead pan jokes.

  • @brandonleesanders
    @brandonleesanders 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:55 - “If like… Sir Mix-A-Lot… You want a motor in the back of your Honda” 😂

  • @cypvh74
    @cypvh74 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The sir mixalot reference killed me. 🍑

    • @MattK-xs4hx
      @MattK-xs4hx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Seriously!

  • @cypvh74
    @cypvh74 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The difference in door material between front and back bothers my OCD.

  • @masterpau1
    @masterpau1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Alex, how is this "one of the best values" and "less money" from your opening statement? Starting price of ~$48k and doesn't qualify for tax credits seem to make this much more expensive than the Tesla Model Y ($42k), Ford Mustang Mach-E ($40k) and even Chevy's own Equinox EV ($35k).

    • @AAutoBuyersGuide
      @AAutoBuyersGuide  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It does qualify for the full $7500 just like Blazer.

  • @denault3985
    @denault3985 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's a one and done product (the GM and Honda partnership has ended) but it sill looks great.

  • @elcabopr
    @elcabopr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for calling out the 2 way lumbar. Some of us have that on our must-have list, meaning I won’t be buying the Prologue. 😢

  • @dennisc6961
    @dennisc6961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the Honda Prologue Touring 2WD. I love it. I was at Buc-ees and was able to charge from 35% to 80% in just 30 minutes. However, to go from 80% to 100% takes a lot longer. If you plan on going on a long highway trip, you will want to be at 100% charge. EV's are kind of opposite gas cars when it comes to range. EV gets better range in the city then it does on the highway as to where a gas car gets better milage on the highway than the city. On 100% charge it does get 307 mile range. The Touring 2WD gets a better range because it's 2WD and not AWD.

    • @jagger0991
      @jagger0991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that 307 city or highway?

  • @nvn2005
    @nvn2005 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I’d wait 2 years for a used selling @25K and 4K rebate on used EV

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      except the superior Hyundai ioniq 5 is already 2 years old....

    • @aliendroneservices6621
      @aliendroneservices6621 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're going to be a lot cheaper than that.

    • @trumpisastump9382
      @trumpisastump9382 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a rebate on a used vehicle?????

    • @aliendroneservices6621
      @aliendroneservices6621 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trumpisastump9382 Some states offer incentives to purchase used plug-in vehicles. In California, people have reported stacking various incentives and getting free cars.

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      '4K rebate on used EV' yelp, google it

  • @EthanPDX
    @EthanPDX 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coming from a Bolt, my big Ultium question is how similar/effective the regen braking/paddle system is; one of my favorite things about the Bolt and something that has been underwhelming in some other EVs I’ve driven.

  • @Nick2JZ
    @Nick2JZ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Definitely not in my driveway! Not pure Honda made, too expensive, design okay......I rather have Tesla model Y Performance.

  • @just.do.something
    @just.do.something 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn this is a great review. I know some folks aren't happy about the Chevy combo but this car is damn good looking. Love the simplicity.

  • @davetravels9273
    @davetravels9273 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The problem is that you have to get a Prologue in elite trim so that it is equipped like a Tesla Model Y. As such, this is about $12000 more than a Model Y in inventory while being less efficient. I’m in the market and was interested in this but I can’t justify $12k more for this. 😢

  • @g.richardson6883
    @g.richardson6883 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I were in the market, this would definitely be on my list.

  • @johndean146
    @johndean146 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched several other TH-cam videos covering this SUV. Alex, once again, has done the best job. He asked about GM vs. Honda. My daughter has a Chevrolet Bolt which had a major battery problem. Dealing with the Chevrolet dealership was a nightmare. Somehow I feel as if the Honda Dealer would have treated her better; the car was in the shop 3 months!
    I hope to get a "passenger friendly EV" at the end of the year. This vehicle looks to be at the top of the list in this regard.
    My one concern is just how front wheel biased this vehicle is as an AWD car. I tend to prefer a rear wheel bias drive. I would love to have Alex compare the driving characteristics of the Nissan Ariya (perhaps a comparable vehicle), a few of the most similar rear wheel biased AWD EV's and the Prologue.

  • @shamanthjilla
    @shamanthjilla 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So no supercruise on Honda prologue?

    • @bahamatodd
      @bahamatodd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Only on the Acura ZDX

  • @pankil82
    @pankil82 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alex, For Elite is the Key Card available in US? I am not able to find any information from local dealers. Was it cancelled for US Prologue Elite ?

    • @sherimcguire54
      @sherimcguire54 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The key card comes with the Elite. The dealers have so much to learn about these. We've gotten most of our Prolougue knowledge from Facebook groups.

  • @Tugennov
    @Tugennov หลายเดือนก่อน

    I won’t consider the GM EVs because of the lack of CarPlay, but this just made my shopping list. Thanks for another great review.

  • @richeastmain4031
    @richeastmain4031 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thanks for the heads up. I don’t want any vehicle that Chevy had a hand in.

  • @cgrscott
    @cgrscott 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a sucker for teal paint. It is a good looking EV.

  • @pnketia
    @pnketia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In theory this should be around the same price as the model Y, but in reality it will be considerably more after dealer markups and limited production due to GM/Honda losing money on everyone made since they cannot scale up the ultium products.

  • @Pekirt79
    @Pekirt79 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review Alex! I don't see Honda selling a lot of these since the specs are just ok and a Model Y LR currently costs less than $40k with point of sale credit.

  • @naveenthemachine
    @naveenthemachine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On the plus side this is probably the best Japanese ev you can buy
    Those of you complaining that it’s just a GM product should remember that the Supra is just a bmw

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think I’d prefer a Nissan Ariya over this.

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ALMX5DP I would too but I’d probably get an ioniq5 or a model Y

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@naveenthemachine lol if you would too why did you say this was probably the best Japanese EV you can buy?

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ALMX5DP because of the effort. The Ariya and prologue are the best Japanese ones.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@naveenthemachine the effort being minimal as this is more of a GM product you mean?

  • @lazurzabound
    @lazurzabound 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow Alex, you worked in Sir Mixalot??? Nicely done!!!

  • @LovelyNelly92
    @LovelyNelly92 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want this simply because it’s comes in the same color as my trailblazer I already own ❤

  • @MattRoll
    @MattRoll 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂😂 The Sir Mixalot reference!! Thank you Alex!

  • @kevtheobald
    @kevtheobald 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That intro felt like kissing Honda's backside. This is expensive, even by EV standards and having GM as that basis of the platform is scary.
    I would take a base model EV9 over this. With the Model Y below 40 grand, it makes it hard to pay so much more for this.

    • @AAutoBuyersGuide
      @AAutoBuyersGuide  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Whether or not it is good for a specific buyer is a matter of personal preference, I am simply explaining why it happened and why it's good for Honda. I also personally think it's just fine. Whether or not it'll be a "good idea" in the end we'll have to see. It'll depend on how many they make and can sell and whether or not anything bad goes down afterwards.

    • @kevtheobald
      @kevtheobald 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AAutoBuyersGuide I get not wanting to offend Honda, but what the Savage Geese for what appears to be more consumer helping video. Same press event you were at, but not so fluffy. There are ways to tone things down so you sound less fluff and more informative. Automotive media is a political beast that is not easy to manage.

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With all due respect this channel is not about offending or not offending a particular car brand.... It's about presenting the facts as objectively as humanly possible...... Tone is not the channel's forte.... For those fixated more on tone and melodrama... Good luck finding an appropriate channel via a wild goose chase or is that a Savage Geese chase?

    • @trumpisastump9382
      @trumpisastump9382 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry, apparently you wanted him to lick the backside of Tesla or Hyundai. Sorry if you can't handle an opinion different than yours. Sorry if you are a snowflake.

    • @kevtheobald
      @kevtheobald 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trumpisastump9382 Watch the Savage Geese or Out of Spec, both were less fluffy. They were all at the same press event.

  • @eganfo
    @eganfo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done on the Sir Mix A Lot lines. Good review as always.

  • @hiromihonda9424
    @hiromihonda9424 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a 30yr Honda owner, the biggest attraction of a Honda is that it is not an American. It's a different and better approach to car making for Honda and the Japanese. A much greater focus on quality and reliability are hallmarks for the Japanese. A Honda built on GM architecture will have GM quality and reliability which is much worse than Honda. Buying a Prologue defeats the purpose and main attraction of Honda and Japanese cars. If I want a GM EV, I will just purchase a Chevy or Cadillac. Prologue and ZDX and stopgap measures and will be forgotten quickly once Honda starts building their own EVs. Many customers are uninformed and buy cars solely on looks and styling. Honda is banking on customers not doing their homework or not caring. But if they are expecting Honda ownership experience, they will be very disappointed.

    • @trumpisastump9382
      @trumpisastump9382 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am very disappointed in your response.

    • @jmbickham
      @jmbickham 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You do realize that the majority of “Japanese” cars sold in the US today from Nissan, Toyota, and Honda are all designed and built in America, right? Some may be based on a global platform, some a modified version of one and others are completely unique to the US market. So while I am no GM fan, at the same time misguided allegiance to Japanese automakers in 2024 is well… misguided. Buy what appeals to you… looks, options, performance and price.

  • @WaltANelsonPHD
    @WaltANelsonPHD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Prologue not Blazer. Prologue Elite. Use it around town. Charge at home. Savings on gasoline (net of electric charging) will never justify the price, even after tax credit. So, you could buy the Prologue because you like it.

  • @jackbn9353
    @jackbn9353 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super disappointing that Honda is using an EV design from incompetent GM.

  • @LuisFernandezStudio
    @LuisFernandezStudio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you open the trunk from the inside? How much will the electricity bill in the house will raise?

    • @fauge7
      @fauge7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Electric cars are around 0.05¢ per mile to run. So look up your houses electric utility rate and do the math on how much you drive

  • @nc3826
    @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you Alex for the post. But Munro & Associates did a teardown of the Hyundai Ioniq 5 battery pack and concluded it was very repairable. (Which is kind of ironic with all the fear mongering about the excessive cost of a replacement battery pack.)
    So your conjecture about the excess weight of the Ultium-based GM EVs is due to its superior battery pack repairability, is dubious at best. Especially since the Ultium-based Honda is considerably lighter.

    • @cdbuiles
      @cdbuiles 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Munro is 'against' 'repairable tecnology'. when he sees 10 screws he says "this is a waste" I could have done with two Dowel pins... . when he says unusued space in the frunk "this is waste". DIYers, mechanics, 2nd or 3rd used market for these EVs are not in his vision; he praises extreme packaging and tight engineering such in Teslas....

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cdbuiles I'm willing to bet, based on your comments you didn't watch the teardown analysis?
      Based on the fact that it was done by somebody other than Sandy and reliability was a specific criteria.

    • @AAutoBuyersGuide
      @AAutoBuyersGuide  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Ultium Honda is not that much lighter. This is over 5,000 lbs in every model except an absolute base trim with FWD. The Blazer gets about 200lbs heavier because of the differing options on it. The modular nature of Ultium is what makes it more repairable vs an Ioniq 5. Munro has never compared them directly that I have seen and if he's implied that anything is like Ultium, he's crazy. Ultium not only allows modules to be replaced, it allows slightly different module chemistries to be mixed in should that be needed later down the line. No other EV can handle that at the moment. BUT, and this is a BIG, BIG BUT. Is the weight penalty worth it? I would hazard the answer is no. The reality is that batteries are very reliable and the extra cost, weight, inefficiency, etc involved in making Ultium so flexible is a big problem. I suspect that this will "Ultiumately" be a battery platform dead end for GM. The big cells make sense, the massive packaging penalty does not.

    • @cdbuiles
      @cdbuiles 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nc3826I didn’t. but I’ve seen Sandie and his closest engineers with same rethoric… whenever he compares how Ford builts it and how VW builts it and then he literally he has high praises how Tesla does it. I am from the ‘european’ school with their ‘right to repair’ laws; anything from a battery to a toaster to an engine should be engineered to allow repairs… yes there is a compromise… I invite you to check various of his dismantling projects and get a feeling for his preferences.

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AAutoBuyersGuide Blazer EV tops out at 5591 pounds, while the Prologue tops out at just over 5,000 pounds. So even if they are equipped differently it seems to be a more significant weight difference? But this was not the main point of the contention.
      Almost every automakers pack is constructed out of modules. Just because a GM press release referred to it as 'modular and repairable'. Doesn't mean it's any more modular or repairable than various other modular designed battery packs. Including the very modular and rather elegantly designed BMW i3 battery pack from over a decade ago. And subsequently the E-GMP packs. (As a side note even non-modular designs have their repairability advantages. For example it's simpler to replace a single cell in a Tesla or Lucid designed pack versus a module design battery pack such as the Ultium)
      And as far as the Ultium pack being able to use different chemistries and configurations due to its wireless BMS system. That's not a repairability factor. That's a modification and upgradable factor. Plus it's just theoretical at this point.
      I don't claim to be an expert, but I've seen numerous dismantled battery packs. And third party analysis. So the only thing that seems crazy is your claims about the Ultium battery pack being more modular and repairable.
      But at least I have a little more insight, where you came up with your claims. Thanks for the feedback.

  • @thegreeneyej
    @thegreeneyej 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like it, it checks all the boxes, Apple car play, Rear wiper, fast AC charging, better looking than the Chevy! Good job Honda.

  • @tedbellWRV
    @tedbellWRV 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m trying to figure out the Jane Fonda reference . . .

  • @Thebuscommunityleader
    @Thebuscommunityleader 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing video Alex.

  • @LetMeCook86
    @LetMeCook86 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s a bit plain looking. The gloss black between the headlights cheapens the look. They should have painted it body color. Reminds me of the first model S. Not a bad 1st attempt by Honda, but for 60K I want to be wowed! Which this doesn’t…

  • @jimyoung6208
    @jimyoung6208 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    divider in the rear under storage area looks like it could be weight support, rear floor support. I have seen a CR-V EXL rear floor cave it due to no support. Thoughts?

  • @havfunonline
    @havfunonline 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great product at a great price, but can’t see why you’d pay more for one of these over a Model Y, which has far more cargo space and space for people as well. At least this has a better look and more range, which precious few competitors manage.
    I’d be less worried about the frunk than about the way bigger trunk.

  • @JB11335
    @JB11335 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s a good pairing if GM could their quality right. Heard too many stories of how the Blazer EV launch was botched. No reason why the Honda version wouldn’t be affected since it’s based on that

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Toyota proved that past reliability with ice vehicles is not indicative of reliability for BEVs....

    • @cypvh74
      @cypvh74 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The blazer issues were related to the infotainment head units and software. Honda did their own thing there.

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      On the contrary the Blazer EV and the Prologue use the same operating system.... the only difference is the apps.... Let's hope Honda's software Engineers do a better job ?

  • @uclaalum88
    @uclaalum88 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice & thorough review!
    I love the look of the Prologue.
    And I like how practical it should be.
    And I like the Eltium package’s motors, battery packs, software etc.
    I want one!

  • @amigajoe
    @amigajoe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lease deals for these are priced similar to leasing a car that costs about half as much.
    I wouldn’t buy a first generation of anything, so a great priced lease is a great way to go.

  • @dcuccia
    @dcuccia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know I'm crossing segments, but I'd sure love a Crown Signia Hybrid Max as my new mostly-EV wagon. Always EV back and forth to work, and i can drive LA-San Francisco stop-free like God intended.

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Alex, Is this the Epilogue of the Honda/GM EV partnership? 🤔😉🤣

    • @garyrussell5373
      @garyrussell5373 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Maybe the Apotheosis

    • @cypvh74
      @cypvh74 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      GM and Honda have partnered before.
      “This has all happened before and will all again”.

  • @antongalazyuk3117
    @antongalazyuk3117 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's kind of shocking that this tops out significantly higher than an Acura RDX. That's where it loses me, why buy this over an Acura? I look at these early EVs as competing with ice vehicles and they are just not even close yet.

  • @dane9193
    @dane9193 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a happy owner of a Bolt EUV Premier over the last two years. I've also always purchased GM vehicles. With that said, I would hands-down choose the Honda Prologue over the Blazer EV or the Equinox. The styling is much more inline with what I"m looking for. It has a handsome look, where the Blazer, to me, is tacky looking. Now, if GM brought over the Buick Electra E5 over from China and sold THAT in the United States, this would be an entirely different conversation. I would happily choose the Electra. But, given GM's constant terrible decisions in the EV space, I have high doubts it'll actually make it here and if it does, they're going to price it way out of range for what it is. The Prologue for what you get IS appropriately priced. It's nicer than the Blazer EV, but also considerably cheaper. It's a win-win.

  • @frankalesso4616
    @frankalesso4616 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Alex great video as always. I like the styling, the size, the interior space. I don't like the price, the weight, and the GM involvement. Why are EVs so expensive? At this point in time, I think human beings have pretty much perfected how to manufacture an automobile. What is so expensive in an EV? I don't think it's the electric motors, they have been around over 100 years. They have less moving parts than an ICE motor. Is it the batteries and the system to maintain the proper temperature for those batteries? I would really like to know. Thanks again for another great video.

    • @KarthikVishwamitra
      @KarthikVishwamitra 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's generally the batteries that are very expensive, both in manufacturing cost and raw material cost.
      Also worth noting is the sheer size of electric car batteries. An electric car can run your entire (fully electric) house on its own for over 24 hours, and some larger batteries (like the Hummer) probably over two days. That's a lot of battery, and it goes to show why EV's are still quite wasteful when it comes to "going green". If you want to be green, buy a bike.

    • @frankalesso4616
      @frankalesso4616 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you.

    • @BillyBobDingledorf
      @BillyBobDingledorf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What bothers you so much about the GM involvement? If it's good enough for Honda, why isn't it good enough for you? GM has had similar collaborations with Toyota and that's gone just fine.

    • @KarthikVishwamitra
      @KarthikVishwamitra 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BillyBobDingledorf I'm not OP, but If you're referring to the Geo brand, I recall that was GM selling Toyota-built vehicles. This is Honda selling GM-built vehicles, basically the opposite.
      Honestly, the saving grace for this partnership is that EV's don't have as many parts that can fail as a combustion engine car. The GM Ultium battery being serviceable also helps. I would never buy a Honda branded GM combustion car, the same way I would never buy a GM car.
      Also, Honda's interior switchgear is better than GM's IMHO. I hate column shifters and combined headlight/turn signal/wiper stalks.

    • @BillyBobDingledorf
      @BillyBobDingledorf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KarthikVishwamitra I'm referring to joint efforts like the Pontiac Vibe / Toyota Matrix. Similarly, the Toyota Cavalier, which was built in a NUMMI in Ohio and shipped to Japan. There's also the Toyota Voltz.

  • @EchoSigma6
    @EchoSigma6 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those tires on the Elite model are ridiculous for such a heavy car especially with the short sidewalls. Expect to buy new expensive tires more often. Overall, it’s a good looking vehicle.

  • @UnMatrixed5150
    @UnMatrixed5150 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the styling , It doesnt have the ridiculous childlike design that other EV’s have

  • @joeg7755
    @joeg7755 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really nice looking normal car. I would very seriously consider this if wanting a full EV. Love the colour as well. Well done Honda (and GM I guess LOL)

  • @gurpreetdhaliwal4902
    @gurpreetdhaliwal4902 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alex , What’s the ground clearance ?

    • @cypvh74
      @cypvh74 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve read 7.9”

    • @blackwhirlwind1245
      @blackwhirlwind1245 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      8.1 inches

  • @mwwhatever
    @mwwhatever 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Glad they put the charging door in the CORRECT location, not on the rear bumper or at the back of the vehicle or on the passenger side

  • @freddywayne
    @freddywayne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would buy the Cadillac Lyriq before the Honda Prologue. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @trumpisastump9382
      @trumpisastump9382 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not a bad option. MOre expensive but more features.

    • @chriso5774
      @chriso5774 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Lyriq is a good looker, but loaded with software bugs and quality problems. At least the Honda will have acceptable quality.

    • @freddywayne
      @freddywayne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      FYI - The Honda Prologue is the same vehicle as the Chevy Equinox EV.... it's made by General Motors. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @bradybisgard
    @bradybisgard 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The issue with EVs is still the price. That’s really expensive compared to similar gas. At least 10k

    • @antongalazyuk3117
      @antongalazyuk3117 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is actually 20k too expensive. 37k would be acceptable as it's basically the same space as a crv. I think I would rather have the crv.

    • @chriso5774
      @chriso5774 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is precisely the problem… legacy auto went upscale and high priced whereas Chinese are perfecting the $15k EV. Ford has finally figured this out, so are cancelling many conversion and high end EV projects, instead creating an all-in skunk works to go after the elusive $20k US made EV. GM, sadly, still hasn’t figured out why cancelling their best selling low cost Bolt was a bad idea.

    • @trumpisastump9382
      @trumpisastump9382 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On average, an EV has a $5,000 price disadvantage. However, this has fallen precipitously and EVs are now on pace to cost less than comparable ICE vehicles within the next 2 years.

  • @bryanwarren7814
    @bryanwarren7814 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unbelievably ordinary.

  • @kathmandun8749
    @kathmandun8749 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would take it over a Toyota EV for sure

  • @drivesanoldcar
    @drivesanoldcar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    can it fit easily a full golf bag?

    • @jamesmhea
      @jamesmhea 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Other reviews say it can hold three

  • @YusofTehrani94
    @YusofTehrani94 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Scream so cheap inside

  • @james2042
    @james2042 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I appreciate them trying to make it like a car and not a tech showcase, but the glaring issue with this and evs as a whole is the absurd price tags. Once i heard the price, per usual, I'm incentivised to go buy the gas or hybrid counterpart. There is no reason anyone would logically buy this unless a government banned the gas counterpart, which seems to be where we're heading to force these to sell.

    • @trumpisastump9382
      @trumpisastump9382 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The average price of a new vehicle in the US is $47,000. With the tax credit you can purchase this at below that cost except for the top of the line Elite trim.

  • @LuvADuc
    @LuvADuc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice Sir Mix A Lot ref Alex.

  • @alexchoi2060
    @alexchoi2060 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would have preferred if Honda and Chevy paired a Bolt/Honda E mix. Not everyone needs an SUV.

  • @PaulHo
    @PaulHo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How does this seem worse than the Bolt?

  • @rusack7174
    @rusack7174 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't hear it mentioned, will these be serviced at all Honda dealers?

    • @AAutoBuyersGuide
      @AAutoBuyersGuide  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes they will. -Travis

    • @AAutoBuyersGuide
      @AAutoBuyersGuide  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honda did not say, but any dealer that sells them will service them for sure.

  • @coreykurtz4646
    @coreykurtz4646 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nope. I would never consider the Prologue. Too much GM crap. It does not look like a Honda. Honda made a big mistake with this one. I would rather take a Honda or Toyota Hybrid over a GM product disguised as a Honda.

  • @frankcoffey
    @frankcoffey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like everything about the Prologue better than the Blazer styling inside and out, infotainment software, etc. The silver back bumper thingy looks out of place but other than that nice. However, I would lease until the NACS charge port is standard. Everyone knows NACS will be the standard going forward now so I don't want to own a CCS car.

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The only difference is the connector they both use CCS protocols.... transition will take decades and CCS charges will be in the majority for non Tesla electric vehicles for quite a while.... adapters will become mandatory for both types of connectors... But to each their own....

    • @frankcoffey
      @frankcoffey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nc3826 Major automakers are saying 2025 for NACS are there are more Tesla EVs than all others on the road so we need to get there. CCS cars can use the adapter.

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@frankcoffey Thank you for ignoring the point about the long transition, after the initial rollout.... As I pointed out before, feel free to wait...
      And for your own edification, your initial run-on sentence was mostly incomprehensible....

  • @aliendroneservices6621
    @aliendroneservices6621 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12:07 14:53 *_"Mack Daddy_* is the third studio album by Sir Mix-a-Lot. It was released on February 4, 1992, on Def American Recordings. The album is particularly notable for the hit single "Baby Got Back."

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for pointing out what was salient about the post

  • @lionintu
    @lionintu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you compare the Honda Prologue to the Toyota Crown Signia, who wins?

  • @SkaBob
    @SkaBob 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This looks like any normal gas suv but it happens to have an electric motor. No gadgets like pop our door handles that kids will break and you have to show your passengers how to use. With android auto and Honda functionality I would certainly pick this over a blazer.