L. Amber O'Hearn your website is so hard to find! But thank you for putting it up there! When can we forget the hate to meat and love and value our bodies and lives for what they are and not what we want them to become?
Very interesting overview of ketosis in human evolutionary context. And if children both need and easily achieve ketosis as part of normal development---what is the effect of the sugar we just about force-feed them in western countries especially the US?
What is the word for a system that needs stress on it to function optimally? I'm going crazy trying to find this word and I thought I heard it in the context of fasting.
I'm only 12 mins in but I'm wondering, since the "low-carb" diet wasn't defined, is it possible that this diet wasn't ketogenic, thus resulting in a state where the participants were getting neither enough carbs nor fat, thus resulting in a stress state and higher cortisol? I'll delete this comment if that's addressed further on...
42:00 the vitamin D question, look into the connection between bile and vitamin D lower levels of bile being associated with it. Clearly going towards higher fast would cause you to have lower levels and thus harder time breaking down the cholesterol which is filled with the sulfated vitamin D. In a way this is bad
I think I've gotten myself into the part of hypoglycemia that switches on cortisol a few times. I was exercising while on a poorly thought-out low-carb diet, and I started getting lightheaded and everything seemed hopeless all of a sudden. 1/10, would not repeat.
TukenNuken I believe our bodies are designed to store up enough Vitamin D during the summer months and store it in our fat for use during the winter...so the key is simple...get enough vitamin d produced in the body during summer months ...and become fat adapted and eat in a small calorie deficit during the winter to dip into your body’s fat stores. And of course the closer to the equator you are the less you have to worry so long as you don’t live indoors 24/7 ;-)
Really like to see Amber's position discussed in detail with respect to actual anthropological/paleontological data in regards to human diets going back at least 100,000 years. And also how this long term keto fits with research on the microbiome (e.g. Sonnenburg Lab) which suggests that fiber should be a lot more than 20 grams, which Amber says causes gastro distress.
Peter depends how much we need to depend on the gut bacteria...people eating only meat have no need for fibre cause they don’t need the gut bacteria to digest plant matter.
@@qthirteen13 Exactly. And given that protein and fat are digested in the stomach, what else would gut bacteria use as fuel? IMO, carnivores have no microbiome. This is again a function of an agricultural society whose primary fuel is glucose, which I believe has been inappropriately applied to carnivores. What follows is not scientific, but when I was young my father used to tell me that my dog's rear end was cleaner than my mouth. I think the average person back then might have known something that has since been forgotten.
The idea the gut flora itself does anything beneficial is pure nonsense, it's only there to digest food and if we don't eat that food it has no purpose. Insoluble fiber (what most people get on vegan diet) has no benefits at all only drawbacks. Soluble fiber which is high in beans and carrots has some benefits but is not necessary in any way.
Yup, beef liver 6oz will give you your MDR providing that the folate is not destroyed by cooking. Let's assume that it survives, though B vitamins do not like heat or oxygen, so you are going to have 6 oz of beef liver or 18 eggs every day to meet your folate requirements which is a major player in methylation?
I enjoyed this presentation and like that the presenter offers different perspectives, but I do have a problem with the ketogenic diet for cancer. I think everyone has their own right to try experimental diets, therapies, medications, etc, but there are many proponents of the ketogenic diet for cancer who will state that cancer "feeds on sugar" and that is why we should go on a ketogenic diet. The problem with this is that cancer cells function on sugar just like other cells do and the research shows that this happens in euglycemic levels. So unless somebody wants to live in a hypoglycemic state, this theory is bunk and holds no water. Now whether or not the ketones themselves exert a kind of anti angiogenic or chemotherapeutic effect has yet to be fully studied. I am open to this and this is very exciting. But to say that cancer feeds on sugar is pretty ridiculous since anybody worth following in the ketogenic community (including the presenter here) would tell us that there is no need to go through life with even a mild level of hypoglycemia and it is downright dangerous and unnecessary. There is actually some compelling research coming out in the past 5 years showing that cancer can "feed on fat" as well, but I think we need to take that research with a grain of salt as well and avoid wild conclusions.
El Payaso No Tiene Pene There is scientific evidence backing the Warburg Effect, but we are still looking at the phenomenon as it grows. whether or not we can cure cancer via the Warburg Effect still needs to be tested, in the mean time, cancer patients achieve better result coupling Keto with treatment than treatment stand alone. Check out Dr Seyfried on this matter.
It's pretty ridiculous to claim keto diet is in any way ancestral. Keto is called fasting mimicking because it's just that. Humans would have constantly eaten whatever could be gathered which would not be large amounts but would be constant and enough to knock you out of ketosis. Every winter there would be a long period of starvation, which is when large numbers of people died of malnutrition even until relatively modern times.
colonyofcells iamamachine2 Why are you wasting your time watching this video then? Watch your vegan guru and his pseudoscience. Btw I was a vegan for 17years, lucky to be alive. Do yourself a favour and read The Vegetarian Myth.
You don't have to watch it, Presjo! It's funny how, no matter what video you watch (be it about High Carb or Low Carb), you NEVER agree with anything anybody says. People who do this are called trolls.
presjo What a miserable person you are to spend your time trolling youtube.. what does it have anything to do with you if people praise any diet.. please, keep your negativity to yourself..
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A cogent argument, boldly and methodically presented. Good work!
Thank you!
L. Amber O'Hearn your website is so hard to find! But thank you for putting it up there! When can we forget the hate to meat and love and value our bodies and lives for what they are and not what we want them to become?
Thank you Amber!
Very interesting overview of ketosis in human evolutionary context. And if children both need and easily achieve ketosis as part of normal development---what is the effect of the sugar we just about force-feed them in western countries especially the US?
What is the word for a system that needs stress on it to function optimally? I'm going crazy trying to find this word and I thought I heard it in the context of fasting.
I'm only 12 mins in but I'm wondering, since the "low-carb" diet wasn't defined, is it possible that this diet wasn't ketogenic, thus resulting in a state where the participants were getting neither enough carbs nor fat, thus resulting in a stress state and higher cortisol?
I'll delete this comment if that's addressed further on...
42:00 the vitamin D question, look into the connection between bile and vitamin D lower levels of bile being associated with it. Clearly going towards higher fast would cause you to have lower levels and thus harder time breaking down the cholesterol which is filled with the sulfated vitamin D. In a way this is bad
Where do u get magnesium?
Meat...
pumpkin seeds.
thedigester.com/six-benefits-magnesium-water/>>1 recipe by dr william davis says don't use club soda.
I think I've gotten myself into the part of hypoglycemia that switches on cortisol a few times. I was exercising while on a poorly thought-out low-carb diet, and I started getting lightheaded and everything seemed hopeless all of a sudden. 1/10, would not repeat.
Sounds awful. How long did it last?
Excellent presentation!
It'd be extremely useful to know how much D3 I need on keto/carnivore.
TukenNuken I believe our bodies are designed to store up enough Vitamin D during the summer months and store it in our fat for use during the winter...so the key is simple...get enough vitamin d produced in the body during summer months ...and become fat adapted and eat in a small calorie deficit during the winter to dip into your body’s fat stores.
And of course the closer to the equator you are the less you have to worry so long as you don’t live indoors 24/7 ;-)
Which bacterial strains ferment amino acids into SCFAs (butyrate)?
Really like to see Amber's position discussed in detail with respect to actual anthropological/paleontological data in regards to human diets going back at least 100,000 years. And also how this long term keto fits with research on the microbiome (e.g. Sonnenburg Lab) which suggests that fiber should be a lot more than 20 grams, which Amber says causes gastro distress.
Peter depends how much we need to depend on the gut bacteria...people eating only meat have no need for fibre cause they don’t need the gut bacteria to digest plant matter.
@@qthirteen13 Exactly. And given that protein and fat are digested in the stomach, what else would gut bacteria use as fuel? IMO, carnivores have no microbiome. This is again a function of an agricultural society whose primary fuel is glucose, which I believe has been inappropriately applied to carnivores. What follows is not scientific, but when I was young my father used to tell me that my dog's rear end was cleaner than my mouth. I think the average person back then might have known something that has since been forgotten.
The idea the gut flora itself does anything beneficial is pure nonsense, it's only there to digest food and if we don't eat that food it has no purpose. Insoluble fiber (what most people get on vegan diet) has no benefits at all only drawbacks. Soluble fiber which is high in beans and carrots has some benefits but is not necessary in any way.
If you are on a diet void of plants how do you get folate?
Hmmm so I would need to consume over 18 large raw eggs per day to get the MDR.
beef liver.. *mic drop*
Travis Sherwood hey 😀
Vaughn Malecki hey haha
Yup, beef liver 6oz will give you your MDR providing that the folate is not destroyed by cooking. Let's assume that it survives, though B vitamins do not like heat or oxygen, so you are going to have 6 oz of beef liver or 18 eggs every day to meet your folate requirements which is a major player in methylation?
I enjoyed this presentation and like that the presenter offers different perspectives, but I do have a problem with the ketogenic diet for cancer. I think everyone has their own right to try experimental diets, therapies, medications, etc, but there are many proponents of the ketogenic diet for cancer who will state that cancer "feeds on sugar" and that is why we should go on a ketogenic diet. The problem with this is that cancer cells function on sugar just like other cells do and the research shows that this happens in euglycemic levels. So unless somebody wants to live in a hypoglycemic state, this theory is bunk and holds no water. Now whether or not the ketones themselves exert a kind of anti angiogenic or chemotherapeutic effect has yet to be fully studied. I am open to this and this is very exciting. But to say that cancer feeds on sugar is pretty ridiculous since anybody worth following in the ketogenic community (including the presenter here) would tell us that there is no need to go through life with even a mild level of hypoglycemia and it is downright dangerous and unnecessary. There is actually some compelling research coming out in the past 5 years showing that cancer can "feed on fat" as well, but I think we need to take that research with a grain of salt as well and avoid wild conclusions.
El Payaso No Tiene Pene There is scientific evidence backing the Warburg Effect, but we are still looking at the phenomenon as it grows. whether or not we can cure cancer via the Warburg Effect still needs to be tested, in the mean time, cancer patients achieve better result coupling Keto with treatment than treatment stand alone. Check out Dr Seyfried on this matter.
Steven Smith wrong
Daniel Welch high-fat diets do not cause an increase in glucose.. I got off of all of my diabetic medication through the ketogenic diet.
Daniel Welch a low fat diet is literally toxic to the body.
Daniel Welch your ignorance is baffling.
It's pretty ridiculous to claim keto diet is in any way ancestral. Keto is called fasting mimicking because it's just that. Humans would have constantly eaten whatever could be gathered which would not be large amounts but would be constant and enough to knock you out of ketosis. Every winter there would be a long period of starvation, which is when large numbers of people died of malnutrition even until relatively modern times.
Probably need more studies on the keto diet before it can be recommended for everyone since it does have known adverse side effects.
Really? What are they? After seven years on keto I have had zero adverse effects and great blood profiles.
The adverse side effects of the keto diet can be found in the wikipedia article on ketogenic diets.
colonyofcells iamamachine2 stop joking around. You know when it comes to health care 0% of Wikipedia can be trusted.
There is no need to believe in conspiracy theories about health since there is 0 evidence for such conspiracy theories.
colonyofcells iamamachine2 Why are you wasting your time watching this video then?
Watch your vegan guru and his pseudoscience. Btw I was a vegan for 17years, lucky to be alive. Do yourself a favour and read The Vegetarian Myth.
damn, ANOTHER video about how "great" ketogenic diets are?
Nora's constant re-hash of the same talk is bad enough, now we've got more
You don't have to watch it, Presjo! It's funny how, no matter what video you watch (be it about High Carb or Low Carb), you NEVER agree with anything anybody says. People who do this are called trolls.
presjo What a miserable person you are to spend your time trolling youtube.. what does it have anything to do with you if people praise any diet.. please, keep your negativity to yourself..
I think he likes high protein diets, not keto.
presjo, have you tried the ketogenic diet, ifso, what was your experience?