Best Team for Pokemon Diamond and Pearl
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- The first Best Team for Sinnoh was done with Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum all in mind. Then, with the remastered team, I decided to do Platinum only. I am now aware that this means I have never done a Best Team for only Diamond and Pearl. So today, that is what I'm bringing you. Which creatures from Sinnoh ended up making this long overdue Best Team? Guess you'll just have to watch and find out!
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So Sudowoodo is here because I didn't want to get 1 specific Pokemon on the team for 1 gym leader. Luxray doesn't do all that great on the board. Grass types are only good for a few battles then thats it. Also keep in mind that, this isn't a team of the 6 ABsolute best pokemon. I build these teams with synergy in mind and I felt Sudowoodo was a great filler spot for the last 1. I also like the diversity it has and I wanted to do something new so if you wanna yell at me that's fine lol. Roserade is a great Pokemon I just feel I wanted to take a different approach.
You should've used gastrodon since gastrodon and infernape cover each others weaknesses. That way if you replace gyarados with gastrodon you'll have two ground types but less weaknesses since it's only weak to one type.
@@rajt9996 eevee is not available in d/p
It's available in platinum
I wish luxray had a physical electric move which did not do recoil
@@sankalpchoubey6629 oh ok thanks
I have a question. Why is Bidoof not on this list?
Inferneape
Type: Fire/ Fighting
How to obtain: Your Starter
Moveset:
Close Combat
-Learned at level 41
-Use Mach Punch before get it
-Great Fighting STAB
Flare Blitz
-Learned at level 57
-Use any other fire types before get it
-Great Fire STAB
Shadow Claw
-TM obtained after defeating Fantina
-Great Psychic coverage
Stone Edge
-TM found in the Victory Road
-Great Flying coverage
Staraptor
Type: Normal/Flying
How to obtain: Found in the First routes in the game
Moveset:
Fly
-HM found in the Team Galatic Warehouse
-Used to travel in Sinooh, but also can be used in battle.
Brave Bird
-Learned at level 49
Great Flying STAB but aslo has some recoil
-Use Aerial Ave before get it
Close Combat
-Learned at level 34
-Great Rock and Ice coverage
Return
-TM found in Lost Tower
-Great Normal STAB
Gyarados
Type: Water/Flying(Its Flying type is pretty useless)
How to obtain: Fishing Magikarps with the old Rod
Moveset:
Surf
-Even tough Gyarados is a pyshical attacker, you nerd Surf in your playtrought
-HM gived to you by Cynthia's grandma in Celestic Town
Waterfall
-Great pyshical Water STAB
-HM gived to you by Jasmine after defeating Volkner
Ice Fang
-Learned at level 32
-Great coverage for Dragon and Grass pokemons, also dealing 4x damage for Cynthia's Garchomp
Dragon Dance
-Learned at level 44
-Great status move, boosting Gyarados' attack and speed
Bronzong
Type: Steel/Psychic
How to obtain: Exploring Cycling Road
Moveset:
Flash Cannon
-TM gived to you after defeating Byron
-Great for Steel STAB
Psychic
-TM found in route 211
-Use Extrassensory before get it (learned at level 19)
-Great for Psychic STAB
Gyro Ball
-Learned at level 38
-Coverage for Bronzong's low speed
Hypnosis
-Can only be used via move releraner on Pastora City
Garchomp
Type: Dragon/Ground
How to obtain: Using strengh to find the secret area in Wayward Cave
Moveset:
Dragon Claw
-Learned at level 33
-Great pyshical Dragon STAB
Earthquake
-TM found in Wayward Cave
-Great Ground STAB
Crunch
-Learned at level 48
-Great coverage
Fire Fang
-Learned via Move Relearner
-Great for Ice coverage
Sudowoodo(?????)
Type: Rock(yes he is not Grass)
How to obtain: evolves bonsly, found in... trophy garden??? Sorry i didnt get that part
Moveset:
Rock Slide
-Learned at level 33
-Great for Rock STAB
-Use Rock Throw before get it
Sucker Punch
-Learned at level 31
-Great priority move
Brock Break
-TM found in Oreburgh Cave
-Needs Rock Smash
Wood Hammer
-Needs a Heart Scale
-Great for Water Coverage
Sorry If my english bad im Brazilian and I still a child
🙏🏽👏🏽 Thank you
Wow
@@dashivsharma5843 what?
Shots
U r god 🙏🏽
me : *thinks about how nostalgic diamond and pearl was*
also me : *gets nightmare flashbacks to seeing that trainer that traded me a haunter with an everstone*
To this day, i am cursing that trainer. Really thought I was gonna get my first gengar
Well, in my mind, I always burn her at the stake.
I never even did the trade
Same ffs! 😓
I remember I went crazy looking for the Pokémon he/she wanted in exchange for Haunter because I was ready to have a Gengar on my team. I freaked out when I realized it came with an everstone.
if we ever get the diamond and pearl remakes , there needs to be a feature where we could get our revenge at that trainer mindy who trades you a haunter with an everstone
I have no objection
@@bradleydyson3121 i agree!!
Sounds good
Seth Colby revenge has no effect against ghosts.😉
@@pederotterson4119 Foresight? 😉
I actually think in a remake the trainer with a haunter would say "Oh I forgot to give an everstone to my haunter" and you actually evolve your Haunter
Lol I would love that.
That would be great
Samadhan Jain good one
YES
That trainer is the biggest idiot in pokemon
'Mystic putting Sudowoodo on the team.'
Me: Say sike right now.
Let me guess? You speak Dutch?
@@shoottakeapanorama6932 I do
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
@@johanbuis1369 i n t e r n e t v e r b i n d i n g
lekkah
Alright the last Pokémon was a shock, but we need to replace it with Roserade because
A) We need water coverage and Sudowoodo with wood hammer is not going to cut it
2) You can get it much earlier than Sudowoodo
3) It can learn toxic to stall fools
Yes lol rosrade is just better
Please give me a roserade moveset.
DuskInTheWind
Giga Drain
Sludge Bomb
Shadow Ball
Toxic
@@sepandian2347 don't even need a Roserade, just teach Infernape Grass Knot for Gastrodon coverage and replace Sudowoodo with Raichu, Luxray, or even Mr. Mime to handle the other Waters.
My female roserade moveset is:
Giga drain
Sludge bomb
Toxic
Attract
That is very effective oftentimes
Who else is watching this after Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl got announced?
Well me I guess
Me
got a get the best team
the should of called it crazy daimond as a jojo reference
Me
He forgot about everyone's favorite HM slave Bidoof
I love bidoof's design
truly a must
Don't you mean HM GOD?
He is god🤠🤠
I thought that sudowoodo was a joke but when i see his moveset i was surprised that it was part of the team
Eu jurava q ia ser um Roserade, mas o sudowoodo tem um moveset até legal
Personally, I'd add Luxray or Roserade over Sudowoodo. You don't have a special attacker or a way to safely deal with water types well. Plus other members of the team already cover Sudowoodo's niche
@@guermegusto agora eu entendi o comentario, o nome do cara e joao teixeira jkkkk
@@FraserSouris good point, if in Platinum I would use Jolteon because it’s my second favorite only under the almighty good birb itself but Luxray is great!
Just use rampardos if your playing diamond or platinum
plot twist:ash also had a everstone in his pocket thats why he never aged
omg makes sense
Imagine if gamefreak could have given Gyarados, acrobatics in future generations...
Gyarados with red card (because he can at least take 1 hit if its not an electric move) and d damce = rip
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I just bought a copy of Diamond yesterday from a garage sale, so perfect timing!
Super slow surfing be prepared for it
That garage sale made a huge mistake
I played diamond 6 times and pearl 4 times and platinum 2 those are my favourite games
Just get platinum, pearl and diamond don’t compare
@@Fundings he/she found the game at a garage sale besides why shove opinions in others faces
Okay, this was another good team you put together. Nice work, as always. Glad I joined the premiere. Looking forward to more alternate starter best teams in the future. I'll also check out Mystic Zora soon. Keep up the great work! :)
Edit (9/8/20): Did a little research, and found that Bronzor will be at Level 15 when you catch it on Route 206, meaning it will probably have Hypnosis already on there, so a Heart Scale for it won't be necessary. Also, you can catch Bonsly on routes 209 and 210 in Pokemon Pearl, along with finding it in the Trophy Garden.
Edit (9/8/20): One more thing, catch a Bonsly with the ability Rock Head, and you won't have to worry about the recoil from Wood Hammer because Rock Head prevents recoil damage.
2:34 is the starting point. Yw
dude thank you
Goat
Infernape 2:40
Moves: 4:48
Staraptor 5:02
Moves: 7:22
Gyarados 7:34
Moves: 9:31
Bronzong 9:47
Moves: 11:36
Garchomp 11:46
Moves: 13:45
Sudowoodo 13:56
Moves: 15:52
The Team: *(SUGGESTION: Play Pearl if you need Bonsly easily)*
*INFERNAPE (Fire/Fighting)*
Obtained: *Starter*
Moves: *Close Combat* *Lvl.41. , Start with Mach Punch*
*Flare Blitz* *Lvl.57. , Keep other fire moves till you get Flare Blitz*
*Shadow Claw* *TM.65. Given by Fantina, 5th Gym Leader, after defeating her*
*Stone Edge* *TM.71. Found in Victory Road*
*STARAPTOR (Normal/Flying)*
Obtained: *Route 201*
Moves: *Fly* *HM.02. Found in Galactic Warehouse, can be used after defeating Maylene, 3rd Gym Leader*
*Brave Bird* *Lvl.49. , Start with Aerial Ace*
*Close Combat* *Lvl.34.*
*Return* *Found in Lost Tower in Route 209*
*GYARADOS (Water/Flying)*
Obtained: Catch Magikarp using old rod(given by fisherman West of Jubilife city)
Moves: *Surf* *HM.03. Given by Cynthia's grandmother in Celestic City*
*Waterfall* *HM.07. , Given by Jasmine In Sunyshore City*
*Ice Fang* *Lvl.32.*
*Dragon Dance* *Lvl.44.*
*BRONZONG (Steel/Psychic)*
Obtained: *Catch Bronzor in Route 206*
Moves: *Flash Cannon* *TM.91. Given by Byron, 6th Gym Leader, after defeating him*
*Psychic* *TM.29. Found in Route 211 (Need Rock Climb and Rock Smash)* OR
*Extrasensory* *Lvl.19.*
*Gyro Ball* *Lvl.38.*
*Hypnosis* *Need Heart Scale(Found near Route 212)*
*GARCHOMP (Dragon/Ground)*
Obtained: *Route 206(Need HM.06. Strength)*
Moves: *Dragon Claw* *Lvl.33.*
*Earthquake* *TM.26. , Found in Wayward Cave*
*Crunch* *Lvl.48.*
*Fire Fang* *Needs Heart Scale(Search it somewhere in Sinnoh or don't teach Bronzong Hypnosis and teach it something else and use this Heart Scale for Fire Fang)*
*SUDOWOODO (Rock)*
Obtained: *Route 209, Route 210, Trophy Garden in PEARL*
*Trophy Garden in DIAMOND*
(BTW we find *Bonsly* in above locations, evolve by level up learning mimic and *Bonsly* already knows mimic, so just level up after catching it)
Moves: *Rock Slide* *Lvl.33. , Start with Rock Throw*
*Sucker Punch* *Lvl.41.*
*Brick Break* *TM.31. , Found in Oreburgh Gate(Need Rock Smash and Bike)*
*Wood Hammer* *Needs Heart Scale (Found near Route 214)*
*TIPS FOR HEART SCALE*
Catch Luvdisc, they have 50% chance of having Heart Scale Hold Item.
You're Welcome
How to get bonsly in that location? I've tried thousand times
@@toshikun1092 I think it would be easier in Pearl, Even I can't get in Diamond
@Skipper Our savior one question, doesn't monferno learn close combat at level 36??
I must say this is a well thought out team Mystic, my recent playthrough of Diamond had me using Infernape, Luxray, Bronzong, Floatzel, Garchomp and Honchkrow👍🏼
I’m kinda disappointed Roserade isn’t here. Besides Bronzong, there’s almost no Special attacker here.
Infernape has 104 base Sp. Atk.
Remember?
Felix Martinez but it has no special attacks here
Infernape-fire fighting
Staraptor- normal flying
Floatzel-water
Garchomp-Dragon ground
Weavile-dark ice
Leafeon-grass
Use this
Cant get eevee in diamond and pear
Next member is: steel/psychic
ME: METAAAAGRRROOOOS-
HIM: BROONZZOONNGG
do you know how stupidly hard it is to get a metagross?
Metagross bad because evolves at like level 99
@@Shaan-mk4sz lmao!
@@MrGuy-xq5uv exactly in post game and has a legendary catch rate
13:53 Mystic has trolled us all!
And an ad plays right before
Yeah roserade is better than it and many people like it MORE THAN SUDOWOODO
@@sepandian2347 it's not even that he's not using Roserade, it's that Sudowoodo will not outspeed anyone. Give me Mr. Mime who can learn both Magical Leaf and Thunderbolt for Water coverage.
@@xfdzfd4370 I was saying roserade was a good option
My last member is Dr. Squatch soap. It'll clean up the entire region.
I just completed dp a few weeks back, so i guess ill compare my team that i used to complete dp to this team. I used empoleon, staraptor, luxray, roserade, garchomp and lucario. Quite a stark contrast.
I freaking love diamond it was my very first Pokémon game and introduction to the franchise as a whole. I’ve done so many play throughs and my personal favorite team was infernape,gastrodon,roserade,garchomp,honchkrow,and luxray
Omg iv been waiting for this for ages I’ll love the playthroughs
Lol this team is basically just a 6-part, gigantic physical bicep and I love it.
So funny you put this video up just a few days after I decided to replay pearl.
Current team is
Empoleon
Staraptor (shiny)
Roserade
Shiny Staraptor?! Lucky!!
Your so lucky dude arrrrgghh
I love this channel def relaxes me after long day at work can escape from my real world issues and just chill.
I played Diamond and Pearl recently and the entire time I was dreading how much I missed Platinum’s improvements
that moment when you remember using sudowoodo in hgss and then finding out it's on this team. haha im gonna go replay soul silver and use sudowoodo again, thank you for the memories
- Staraptor with feather dance and roost is a must.
- monkey on 🔥
- gyarados
Any 3 other poke
Hey Mystic, great Video, and a nice Team you put together. Now, are you going to get to Empoleon & Torterra before Remakes of Gen 4 are announced, or not?
I would like to offer some changes to this one that I think may make this team easier to use.
I would give Infernape Flamethrower over Flare Blitz. Simply because the recoil can be a big issue for in-game usage, but then again maybe Flare Blitz is necessary to deal with Lucian's Bronzong (good thing he has Levitate and not Heatproof). Shadow Claw and Close Combat are great choices which I won't change. I'd honestly go so far as to give him Grass Knot over Stone Edge. We need Gastrodon, Quagsire, and Whiscash coverage, and Sudowoodo is slower than all three.
Staraptor I won't change at all. I personally prefer Gastrodon over Gyarados due to its much better special attack, but I like this moveset.
Garchomp I would give Rock Slide or Brick Break over Fire Fang.
Instead of Bronzong, I would find Mr. Mime way easier to use, with access to Thunderbolt for Gyarados coverage and an amazing special attack. Great for Maylene, Crasher Wake, Fantina's Drifblim and Gengar, all the Golbats and Croagunks of Team Galactic, Cyrus's Honchkrow and Gyarados (may not be able to outspeed his Crobat and Bite though), Flint's Infernape and Drifblim, and Cynthia's Roserade.
And instead of Sudowoodo, I'd like to use Drapion. I wouldn't level up a Skorupi to get one though, I'd try to get him through the Great Marsh daily Pokémon. If that's possible, I think he's a great choice to fight Fantina as well. With Crunch and X-Scissor, I think he'd do pretty well especially against Candice and Lucian. Against Cynthia, he resists most of Spiritomb's attacks and all of Roserade's. Thunder Fang to deal with Cyrus and maybe even for Gyarados coverage. If I got a Sniper Drapion, then Cross Poison is worth it. Otherwise, Fire Fang for Aaron.
Huh, Sudowoodo and Gyarados are pretty interesting choices. Honestly, I would throw rock slide on Garchomp instead of Fire Fang, but that is also a really good option for it. Overall, I'm pretty impressed with the differences the team has, plus I just love the fact you threw in Sudowoodo.
Mystic: "And for those who say I am running out of ideas"
Me: "what are you thinking about us genwunner?"
Who says he’s running out of ideas. Best team videos are so necessary for learning players and there each entertaining for experienced players
I just started playing Pearl Wednesday and I just traded around with Heart Gold to get all the starters and then added Crobat and two Bibarel, for hm's
In pearl there's sudowoodo near the GBA park and there's bonsly all the time above solaceon town, handy if you wanna catch them at a higher level
I wouldn't mind seeing pokemon teams for anime characters.
sinnoh fans here check?
Prediction: I Can Bet Million Dollars that : Staraptor 🔥🔥🔥would be in the Team , any objections???
@@generic_username27 dog , If u can understand SARCASM then you can comment , Blabbering something , obvi Ik that it's on the thumbnail
@@generic_username27Hmm seems Reasonable!!!👍
@@generic_username27 bro you got nothing better to do then come bag on people for trying to just speak their predictions or just saying first like dude chill please i see you on every single prediction. Calm down
It was
Driftloom is better imo
I always go with crobat for my flying Pokémon. Once you get subway to level 13 for bite stops being shitty, and having a crobat by level 24 is amazing. It’s immune to poison and poison loses its weakness to ground.
Infernape somewhere on there
His taste in starters is so basic.
Okay, since I haven't seen anyone else mention this, I will.
Sudowoodo can have the ability Rock Head in Generation 4, which makes it so that recoil moves don't do recoil. This is really good for Sudowoodo, since Mystic decided to give it Wood Hammer. So it gets a good counter for rock, ground, and water types, such as Wake's Quagsire, without taking any recoil damage.
bet this is a gonna be a pretty good one with some real surprises!
Me: *fine with sudowoodo on this list*
Everybody else: wHaT dO yOu meAn?!
VGCCyrus - yeah I know. People underestimate sudowoodo
Sudowoodo can get the Rock head ability, so Wood hammer shall not damage him back. Also you kept showing Bertha's Platinum team instead of her Diamond and Pearl's one :P
Something worth noting about bronzong: because of its abilities (heatproof and levitate) and the gen 4 type chart it always only has one weakness and you get to pick which it is (fire or ground)
A flaw with this list is the fact that u count the fully evolved pokemon for the early stages of the game.
I thought so too, since most of the times, videos like this start of by listing what starters help you early on etc..but I suppose you could use anything early on..
"Oh this poison type makes me struggle? I'll just train something for this battle."
I mean, early on you'd have Chimcharr/Monferno, Starly/Staravia, Gyradoss and Bronzor which are good enough for the early game and should match well against most everything you face. Hell, Monferno alone can carry you through the first 3 gyms.
This is great! I was planning to play this Diamond, since Platinum was the one I first tried.
Am I the only person who finds it incredibly hard to get the TM for Earthquake in this game? I can only do it on an emulator with slowed speed.
I agree😂
Just switch the bike into the low gear when going through Wayward Cave
Glad to be in the premiere. Overall, that team was not too bad, but quite unexpected with Sudowoodo.
Okay, story time, so I played Pokemon diamond when I was in fourth grade, and was a able to one shot Aaron and Lucian's whole team with infernape. So my strategy was to keep spamming Calm Mind until the special stats wouldn't go higher, then just used flamethrower. The special stats were so high, that I was able to one shot the teams. Even the Bronzong. I was smart back then lol .
This video is extremely relevant now!
Nobody talks about Gyarados anymore
Me: *sees it everywhere spamming Max Airstream with Moxie*
Here after the announcement of D&P remakes to refresh myself...
The only ones that I heard were good was luxray and infernape.
Granted there are probably more but I bet they must be on the list!
Luxray isn't good lol
@@notscorchingsands9718 he has bad defenses and speed plus only has One physical electric type move thunder fang,he falls hard late game imo but he can work
@@isidoro19david65 I managed to get my hands on a Light Ball Pikachu which I bred and got a Volt-Tackle Raichu in one of my playthroughs. But in general Mr. Mime does a better job of Gyarados coverage and Magnezone is a baller in Platinum.
@@xfdzfd4370 good for you 😃,raichu is quiet underrated imo
Luxray isn't very good because gamefreak doesn't like physical electric types yet made 2 in the same generation
Day 7 : Top 10 strongest pokemon according to the pokedex
Diamond and pearl were slow and weren’t that great, but platinum is one of the greats.
Interesting team, I knew Infernape was going to be the starter, but I never expected Gyarados. I I was actually expecting Floatzel. I was also expecting Luxray, but I’m glad Sudowodo made it onto the team.
@@simplyzek but why would u send out a water type against an electric or grass type?
@@simplyzek but floatzel isn’t meant to take hits, it’s a glass cannon
@@simplyzek how?
@@simplyzek not strong hitting? It has about the same attack as infernape
@@simplyzek Gastrodon is way better. As long as you don't use him against Grass you're good. Gastrodon actually does super well against Maylene's Lucario, most of Team Galactic, Byron, Cyrus's Honchkrow and Crobat, Volkner, Bertha, Flint, and most of Cynthia.
Im going to use this team in shining pearl, but im going to use clefable instead of sudowoodo
My Top 5 Bird pokemons
1) Staraptor
2) Corviknight
3) Talonflame
4) Braviary
5) Pidgeot or Swallow
Swallow is the Best😂😂😂
Make a video about the Best Pokemon Team in the game Pokemon Red and Blue using Red`s team from Pokemon: Origins.
P.S. Dear English speaking friends, support this comment with your likes so that Mystic could see it and think about the proposed idea. (Excuse me if this is written with errors. I am a foreigner).
Maybe even Something related to Ash!!!
I used a team of ,
Alakazam,Gengar,Infernape, Starapter,Steelix and a Lucario which was pretty badass and went so good.
Use Bibarel for hms honestly it’s makes it easier through the whole game!!!!!
Playing my first play through currently and Bibarel knows 4 Hms. Great slave.
When it comes to bronzong’s ability; what do you recommend levitate? Or heatproof? Thanks mystic!
Holy shit! I have that exact same moveset for gyarados on my soulsilver!
Mystic, you can also get Bonsly on route 209 to the east of hearthome city. I was going through another pearl play through and was going through the grass to get an item and found Bonsly. Also I’m using your team for the play through except I’m switching Infernape for Rapidash and Torterra for Sudowoodo. But while I’m waiting for Garchomp I might as well use Sudowoodo.
It may be the first PkMn game I ever played, but after trying it out some months ago, Pokémon Diamond (and Pearl)'s engine is too much slow, it was somatically painful to play.
Honestly it is better to play platinum than diamond and pearl imo
Here’s my Sinnoh region collection: Drapion, Dusknoir, Electivire, Garchomp, Infernape, Leafeon, Lucario, Magmortar, Magnezone, Mamoswine, Rhyperior, Roserade, Skuntank, Toxicroak, and Yanmega.
A couple of these are a bit lackluster, I know, so I wouldn’t use those very often.
Day 45 of me requesting for how good was nidoking actually?
@@generic_username27 yes
Love it all but I would replace bronzong with metagross. I'm not gonna say why, its to complicated. But sodowodo I don't think so im thinking more of a good grass type. Or rock type if you want to keep it that way. But this video will be very useful for the remake of Dimond and pearl.
Metagross is postgame
I got 4/6 right. Why not roserade or an electric type over sudowoodo? Sudowoodo is Garbage. And wynaut gastrodon over gyarados? Also TH-cam decided to not show me the video whole it was premiering lol.
Close🔥🔥🔥
@@generic_username27 what the hell did I do
@@generic_username27 it's not my team is just a prediction.
I always find using Staraptor to be stupid since its main selling point is Close Combat. Infernape can deal more damage with Brick Break than Staraptor with Close Combat. Using Crobat always seemed like the more sound choice since you also get a poison coverage with Poison Fang and later on Cross Poison. Also, Gyarados? I think Floatzel or Gastrodon would be the better choice here. They get Ice Beam, a stronger attack than Ice Fang. Gastrodon's Water/Ground typing also helps because it removes all the overlapping weakness it shares with Garchomp. I love your inclusion of Bronzong, but I think Steelix would be the better option here. It has higher attack and defence, but its special defence is lower. The attack output more than makes up for it though. I know it's another ground type, but I need to mention that there aren't any weakness overlap between the three. Lucario should also be considered since it can be a special attacker with Psychic, Aura Sphere, Flash Cannon, and whatever coverage you need. The steel type negates the psychic and flying weakness it would've shared with Infernape, although it is weak to ground. A rock type does nothing there. The types it beats are already covered by the Pokemon I've covered above. You're better off using a psychic type there like Alakazam or a ghost type like Spiritomb. Honorable mentions go to Gliscor, Scizor, and Gallade. Each of them can easily fill a spot in the team.
We need an actual red b team
this has suddenly just got re relevant
My team for the eventual remake.
Infernape
Roserade or Abomasnow
Weaville or Drapion
Gyrados
Drifblim or Staraptor
Garchomp or Mamoswine
I like you. We basically have the same team.
I would personally go
Infernape
Roserade
Luxray
Gyarados
Garchomp
Staraptor
Infernape-starter
Roserade/Abomasnow-good
Weavile or Drapion-good
Gyrados-common
Garchomp Mamoswine-good
Drifblim Staraptor-No Staraptor and your good
3/6 :D...!!! pokemon team
Infernape is a pretty basic way to pronounce Empoleon.
Empoleon lacks the firepower and versitaility of Infernape. Plus there are plenty of water types in Sinnoh that can fullfill its niche well (like Gastrodon and Gyrrados) but few that can cover as well Infernape does. Water/Steel is a great defensive typing but the most common offensive types are electric, fighting and ground, stuff that Empoleon is already weak too.
@Nick Cruz Mystic made a video for Empleon and Platinum specifically. His picks were Staraptor or Crobat as your flier, Roserade to deal with Water types, Galade for offence, Houndoom to cover Ghost and Psychic types as well as being a good fire type Pokemon, and Mamoswine
@Nick Cruz For Roserade, are you using special type attacks and investing its EVs accordingly? Because Roserade's SP Attack is great at 125 and its SP Def and Speed are good too. There's a reason that in D/P competive it was in OU. Its only real weakness is that it's physcially frail.
Here's the quote from Smogon on it:
>"Roserade is, hands down, one of the best Toxic Spikes users in OU. It can easily dispense Toxic Spikes in the lead position thanks to Sleep Powder, which allows it to neuter opposing leads, and it decent Speed stat. While Roserade is usually seen as a Toxic Spikes user, it can also be employed as an exceptional offensive Pokemon. It has access to two powerful STAB moves in Leaf Storm and Sludge Bomb, can allow it to successfully run either a Life Orb or a Choice Scarf set. On top of this, it is also an excellent Spikes user and can use a SubSeeding strategy to stall out the opposing team.
However, Roserade is very physically frail, so most powerful physical attacks will KO it. Priority moves, such as Extreme Speed and Bullet Punch, will often spell doom for Roserade as well. Additionally, its Grass / Poison STAB combination is resisted by many common Pokemon, such as Heatran, Scizor, and Jirachi, and so it must rely on a Hidden Power type to cover all of these threats."<
For good grounded poison types, your best options are Toxicroak, Skuntank, Roserade, Tentacruel and Drapion. I'd recommend Roserade due to how useful grass can be in Sinnoh. But if you don't want that, Drapion and Toxicroak would be my second picks.
Weavile is a good pick. It's a great glass canon and can even one shot Garchomp if used well.
For Garchomp, I'd say that's a dumb reason to bench it. His stats and coverage are some of the best in the franchise. In competive, Garchomp can even hold his own against legendaries. He is an absolute monster. The only reason I don't use him is he makes the games too easy.
For Gliscor, there are many good options for moves. Earthquake, Swords Dance, X-Scissor, Aerial Ace is one good set. If you want more coverage, you can swap out Swords Dance and X-Scissor for Ice Fang, Thunder Fang, Fire Fang, Knock Off, Poison Jab etc. If you want healing, give him Roost. Just remember to give Gliscor physical moves since its special attack is terrible.
Rotom is decent outside of his regular and flying type versions. Take your pick of any of the remaining forms. Luxray suffers a little from being an electric type who relies on physcial attack. Be sure to give him Thunder Fang as his main STAB move. But both should be solid in Platinum.
For Houndoom, Mystic recommends Flamethrower, Dark Pulse, Thunder Fang and Iron Tail. Houndoom is specially oriented so you can swap out Thunder Fang and Iron Tail for Solar Beam and Shadow Ball. You can also run moves like Howl to boost up attack and then use a physcial move in your last slot.
@Nick Cruz Right, Forgot about the Safari Zone. That should make things a lot harder.
Yes. Sinnoh's full of pretty good gound types. I personally used Gastrodon since I took Infernape.
Rotom may match well against Electric, Ground and Fighting types but is too weak normally. You're better off using Gliscor if you want a single Poke to cover Empoleon's weaknesses. Gliscor even has electric coverage with Thunder Fang.
I wouldn't recommend Thunderbolt or Discharge for Luxray since its Special Attack is way worse than its attack. If you can get Thunder Fang on it, it would be much better. Galade would fit the niche better as you said.
While I personally have not used Tangrowth, it does seem to be a decently bulky grass type with a decent moveset. Seems like he'd be a solid pick.
That mindy.... Childhood nightmares oncoming
Mystic swap gen 2 starters with the hoenn region
Nah swap kalos and hoenn
For those who don’t feel like using Infernape. Torterra actually does better moveset wise. But it’s much riskier to use due to its speed.
predictions: infernape staraptor and garshomp
Maybe instead of stone edge, thunder punch may be better as that counters water type aswell as the flying type, after stone edge may be better as it packs a huge hit (just saying it may be easier for thunder punch until then🙂)
Who’s here after the announcements today 🤔
I bet this videos gonna get rewatched
Another comment: while your choices of moves for Bronzong are definitely good and play to its strengths, I have suggestions for additional type coverage that it can learn: Shadow Ball (you currently lack a Ghost move) and Charge Beam (same for Electric, plus the potential power boost).
Also, since I already commented on Sudowoodo being basically exclusive to Pearl, if you don’t want to wait for Weavile, then Roserade is a great option, as you said. With the move set you gave before, I presume (Petal Dance, Sludge Bomb, Shadow Ball, and Stun Spore (although Grass Whistle and Toxic are also options)).
Hey, Mystic, Ik you very much dislike Torterra. But I just wanted to say it was really fun making a Ground Pokemon team..!
I had to re-start Diamond and started a new team just to counter Lucian and Cynthia. The only Pokémon I had in common with yours was Infernape and Bronzong. My bird of choice was Honchcrow, to deal with Medicham, and my water Pokémon was Gastrodon, because Water/Ground is such a good typing. My other picks were Roserade and Luxray.
Can't wait to see the future gameplays!!!..
Where is your son?
Cant wait to re play these games
Surely. It would make more sense to give the infernape thunderpunch instead of stone edge. You can get thunderpunch if you go to the move relearner west of pastoria city with 6 blue shards. Stone edge allows infernape to counter flying types, but thunderpunch would allow him to cover flying and water types.
Poor flygon, always forgotten in the shadow of garchomp, he can have the same move set as garchomp except that flygon actually learns fire punch which is better than fire fang
I am a little disappointeed Mystic.We needed an apes movie where Ceasar would spit fire
Sudowoodo definitely was a surprise but it made some sense when he explained it
My pearl team consists of Infernape, Staraptor, Luxray, Cherrim, Quagsire and Palkia/Misdreavus. And I’m satisfied with it.
Jolteon for Flying and Water types such as Milotic and Togekiss
I also don't like two Steel-type attacks on a Steel Pokemon so I replaced Flash Cannon with Payback which also takes advantage of Bronzong's slow speed by doubling in power because everything will attack it first and it's really good against Lucian because it hits with 120 base power against most of his psychics. Also replaced Hypnosis with Confuse Ray as confusion works better with this set.
I’m currently on my 3rd run through! My current team is Infernape, Luxray, Staraptor, Abomasnow, Garchomp and Palkia. I struggle against the elite four because I’m under level on a few key Pokémon, but should be okay when I take on Cynthia
Tysm i’ve been struggling against Cynthia
I personally don't want Diamond and Pearl remakes.
I want a Platinum remake.
Game freak doesnt remake third games. they didnt remake yellow(LGPE is barley a yellow remake), crystal, or emerald.
G max Giratina will rock if introduced