I restored a three burner our family bought back in the early 60s. Also restored a two burner early 70s vintage I bought for $5.00. Both work great we took the 3 burner on a week long campout. The lanterns we used were also old Coleman. They really used to build the tough.
To eliminate yellow flame, after a minute turn the starter valve down, then pump another 25 to 35 times. You'll get the hot blue flame all around. Congrats on a great job. Also look for a new instruction decal you can put on the back to remind you how to start up your stove. Great work. Thanks for sharing.
Nice job! Looks great! If you turn the lighting lever up (and leave it there) when you light it, the valve opens at the top of the Fuel-Air stem which allows the fuel vapors from the fuel tank to travel through the generator and into the burner, which after lighting heats up the generator and should prevent a lot of the sooty yellow flame because the fuel to air ratio is more balanced for efficient burning. If you have the lighting lever down or move it down at all during heating up, the upper vent is closed and the lower vent is open allowing liquid fuel to travel to the burner, which will produce a sooty yellow flame because the fuel to air ratio is too high until the generator is hot enough to vaporize the liquid fuel. No need for the "alcohol hack," which requires another fuel to bring with you. If you have the lighting lever up and you're not getting enough flame, turn the valve off and the lever down to pump more pressure into the tank. Then try the lighting process again. If the stove is really old or not well maintained, the generator might need cleaning or replacing because it might be preventing fuel from traveling through it. This happened to me with a used stove I bought - never quite burned cleanly, heated up slowly, and never seemed to burn at full heat. Took apart the generator to find it mostly clogged with rust & build-up and with a broken heating coil. Replaced it and the stove worked so well afterwards.
The cap was supposed to be red too. The reason why it's green is because it was replaced with one from a green lantern. They probably lost the origional.
I called up your vid because I'm restoring my grandparent's 50+ year old 3-burner Coleman stove. I've never even seen a 3-burner stove before. Anyway, my main issue was big dents in the frame. Now that I see how easy it is to remove all the "guts" I'm going to do that and use autobody techniques to bump out the dents and straiten everything up. I'm already about 80% there. I expected the pump not to work, and it doesn't. I ordered replacement parts for that. I think I'll take the burners apart and give them a bath in the ultrasonic cleaner. The old lead-based paint on the housing has really stood up well to all the abuse that this guy got over the decades. I'll re-evaluate if I need to re-paint or not after I get the stove running. Also, Evaporust (or vinegar) for the mildly rusted spots.
I just bought 5 stoves 421A,421B 431x2and a 425 I figured i would get at least one working and found out they all work! So I am keeping the 431 for my car camping and selling the others but I also sanded, primed , and painted them so they look far better than what is available on Facebook or craigslist. People are trying to sell grotty looking stoves for big bucks!
I just picked up one off of Etsy it’s never been used “crazy “ I’m going to be using it Mr Coleman made to use and enjoy! You did a great job on restoring your stove it will last you along time!
Good video! I have the same 2 burner coleman from a garage sale. $5. Needs some TLC and paint and then will be my secondary camp stove. Purchased a new $20 "Generator". Works like new.
I have restored 2 Coleman 2 burner stoves. One is like yours, a 425-E which belonged to my wife's parents and we inherited it when they passed. I also completely restored a Coleman 425 no letter stove that was made between 1920's - 1930's. It was in worse condition than yours. I used an old plastic trash can and made an electrolysis bath and soaked all the parts including the gas tank. The gas tank is the cylindrical copper colored tank. I repainted everything and found some great copper colored paint for the tank. A friend had given me the stove and a bunch of auto paint that is an exact match for the Coleman green. It took over 2 months to completely restore the stove. I used my airbrush to paint the green. The burner assembly was repainted with high heat aluminum colored paint. I completely disassembled the tank and refurbished everything including a new pump leather. Your stove should have had a leather pump cup so I guess at some time someone replaced the pump assembly with a newer pump assembly that used the rubber type cup. Thanks for the video. W Rusty Lane K9POW in eastern Tennessee
While your restoration is cosmetically very good, there are a few problems number one you don't want to use a course wire wheel when cleaning the paint. A finer side angle wheel on a grinder would have been much better. And be extremely careful on the tank preferably using a brass wheel you can knock microscopic pin holes through the metal, that will then be covered over by the paint and will seal for a short period of time eventually they will seep gasoline the amounts may be so small that you can't see them but nonetheless be flammable. I know because I've done this. Also you need to remove the valve from the top of the tank and clean out the fuel air tube and the generator assembly that runs to the burner, when you open the second burner the main flame dropped way down to almost out, that shows that the stove is not getting enough fuel. Also you don't want to use gasoline ever in a Coleman stove only Coleman fluid, or camp stove or Camp gas. Never gasoline from a gas station or anything is designed for an internal combustion engine. No matter how clean you think it is. Remember you're going to cook food over that anything that is combusted in that flame will be carried up in the column of heat around the pan and when cooled fall back into your food. Several people have been made very ill burning gasoline in a Coleman stove, due to the fuel additives being atomized and absorbing into their food. When in general you did a good job on it, just a few technical problems. One more thing check the gasket on that fuel cap. If it's at all questionable and not nice and pliable you should replace it that is a common point of leaks and fires
Great job! Found you while trying to remove the burner on a Coleman Propane Grill Stove. Its new but jas sat for 20 years and one knob will not turn..even using WD40 and pliers. Trying to learn..got a stove like you restored so now of any problems with it..will rewatch your clip! Thanks
So with the pumps, the ones with the leather instead of the rubber are way better. The trick with either is to soak in in Neatsfoot oil for a little while, then reassemble. Your original pump may not have been bad, just needed to be oiled.
@@ChandlerLittle No problem. My dad used to collect Coleman stuff, and I picked it up the last few years myself. I’m still learning as I go, and mostly have worked on lanterns. I was given an old stove by a church member this week and it’ll be my first restoration on a stove.
The next go around, try a 150 grit sand on everything this to be painted and primed.. Thereafter, paint and tape 2 coats. The final step, Glamore 2k to give it the auto grade toughness...maybe in satin or high gloss?
Coleman says one gallon of liquid camp fuel (white gas) equals about 4 1/2 of those common cans of propane. Also, the 40 oz. tank on the stove should run 2 hrs. at FULL HIGH setting, so under normal use it would run a LOT longer than 2hrs. one gallon = 3.2 tankfuls.
Nice job, it looks great! I refurb old Coleman stoves and lanterns as well. Look on the bottom and you should be able to find a mfgr date! (month & year)
I just acquired one recently through a neighbor and can’t wait to restore it and see if it works! Have you found the paint to last over time? Wasn’t sure if I should get high heat paint or not. Great video!
I found one of these in the rafters of my garage in my new home. I plan on restoring it as well but mine is older I think as the tank is made of copper or brass. Might be military grade. What kind of fuel is used in these?
Lead tends to be in white paint - and sometimes red. So a mask might be wise with the red - but dangerous green paints were a 19th Century problem - so I doubt there'll be any Arsenic in the green paint :)
No! No! not red-use heat resistant silver on the pate that hold the burners as well the burner assembly. But It's yours to customizes as you want, until the red paint starts to peel.
Nice job. Prevent soot by pouring alcohol on the burner cup and lighting that to preheat the generator with a blue flame. This preheat faster without the soot that is produced by the yellow flame.
I just got one from estate sale. Brand new - since 1973 LOL - unused, 99% pristine. I'm watching this to get idea about polishing some parts (e.g. the regulator tube) Is this one from within your family ?
I hate those "rubber" pump cups, they don't last long. You can still find original leather pump cups. Just add a few drops of oil through the hole marked "oil" when you use it.
@@ChandlerLittle The proper oil to use is called "Neatsfoot Oil" a few ounces will last you a LONG time. Fiebing's 100% Pure off of Amazon for 9$ is what I use.
@@ChandlerLittle Coleman recommends that you use Neets Foot Oil on the leather pump cups. I have a small bottle and haven't even made a dent in the quantity. W Rusty Lane K9POW in eastern Tennessee
@@ChandlerLittleNice job on the stove, btw. I just acquired a 426D from 1967 I am restoring and you gave some good input. I learned the acid trick when I used to restore motorcycles in my teens. It worked wonders on the gas tanks. I usually took vinegar and BB's, shaking to get heavy rust and finish with muriatic.
@@0987__ At best, he refurbished it. A proper restoration would have all old paint removed, striped down to the bare metal. Everything would look new. Do the burners look new? He didn't even bother to sand the old paint to give it a feathered edge for a nice transition.
I hate to say this but you are spending way too much time on restoring it. Even though you got it back to the condition you did. Vinegar goes a long, long, way for everything. What that doesn’t take care of for rust you can get some Naval Jelly (look it up) also. You won’t have to get a wire wheel to attack the majority of the rust because your burning through the physical pieces instead of the surface.
Found one at a older lady's yard sale this past weekend. NEW in the box. Worked great! Great find.
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in a grid down you will happy to have it . i ve had mind for thirty years .and it works.thay are bomb proof .with a regular service
Another one saved!!!! You just can’t kill those things….. nice work, much respect.
Thank you!
@@ChandlerLittlethank you... Exactly. M another one saved... How has the paint held up?
Thanks to your tutorial..I am planning on doing the same..
Could not help but stop and watch this one, love these and you did such an awesome restoration, great job, you should be proud👍
Good job, I picked one up today as a matter of fact. Not as rough as the one you have but definitely needs some TLC.
Nice restoration! I restore Coleman pressure lanterns and lamps. That is awesome that you got that thing running. Keep ‘‘em burning!!!
Old coleman stoves are so cool.
I restored a three burner our family bought back in the early 60s. Also restored a two burner early 70s vintage I bought for $5.00. Both work great we took the 3 burner on a week long campout. The lanterns we used were also old Coleman. They really used to build the tough.
To eliminate yellow flame, after a minute turn the starter valve down, then pump another 25 to 35 times. You'll get the hot blue flame all around. Congrats on a great job. Also look for a new instruction decal you can put on the back to remind you how to start up your stove.
Great work. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the tip! I’ll try it out
Just found one in the garbage. Appreciate the video! Gave me some inspiration for restoring it!
Thanks for sharing this mate.Nice to see someone restoring and preserving anything historic.She looks like she just came off the shelf.I love it!
Great job! I would have never thought it would be working again.
Just for future reference, the tube that runs across the main burner is called the generator. Good job on the restoration.
What a nice video, even when you are not a PRO , you did this with LOVE...that's the best part. 👍👍👍
Nice job! Looks great!
If you turn the lighting lever up (and leave it there) when you light it, the valve opens at the top of the Fuel-Air stem which allows the fuel vapors from the fuel tank to travel through the generator and into the burner, which after lighting heats up the generator and should prevent a lot of the sooty yellow flame because the fuel to air ratio is more balanced for efficient burning.
If you have the lighting lever down or move it down at all during heating up, the upper vent is closed and the lower vent is open allowing liquid fuel to travel to the burner, which will produce a sooty yellow flame because the fuel to air ratio is too high until the generator is hot enough to vaporize the liquid fuel. No need for the "alcohol hack," which requires another fuel to bring with you.
If you have the lighting lever up and you're not getting enough flame, turn the valve off and the lever down to pump more pressure into the tank. Then try the lighting process again. If the stove is really old or not well maintained, the generator might need cleaning or replacing because it might be preventing fuel from traveling through it. This happened to me with a used stove I bought - never quite burned cleanly, heated up slowly, and never seemed to burn at full heat. Took apart the generator to find it mostly clogged with rust & build-up and with a broken heating coil. Replaced it and the stove worked so well afterwards.
Your work surface is a white kitchen counter top and a kitchen sink?!?!? My wife would KILL ME!! LOL
😅
You did a real fine job! I need to find the leather cap replacement for my 425 Coleman.
Great job. You went from unranked amateur to pro in one restoration.
It turned out beautifully!
Thank you!
Excellent work man!
The cap was supposed to be red too. The reason why it's green is because it was replaced with one from a green lantern. They probably lost the origional.
Interesting!
I have the same model in the original box and the cap is green. Maybe its the Green Peace model. @@ChandlerLittle
I called up your vid because I'm restoring my grandparent's 50+ year old 3-burner Coleman stove. I've never even seen a 3-burner stove before. Anyway, my main issue was big dents in the frame. Now that I see how easy it is to remove all the "guts" I'm going to do that and use autobody techniques to bump out the dents and straiten everything up. I'm already about 80% there. I expected the pump not to work, and it doesn't. I ordered replacement parts for that. I think I'll take the burners apart and give them a bath in the ultrasonic cleaner. The old lead-based paint on the housing has really stood up well to all the abuse that this guy got over the decades. I'll re-evaluate if I need to re-paint or not after I get the stove running. Also, Evaporust (or vinegar) for the mildly rusted spots.
I just bought 5 stoves 421A,421B 431x2and a 425 I figured i would get at least one working and found out they all work! So I am keeping the 431 for my car camping and selling the others but I also sanded, primed , and painted them so they look far better than what is available on Facebook or craigslist. People are trying to sell grotty looking stoves for big bucks!
Nice work mister! I like bringing new life to old things.
Thank you! Me and you both!
I just picked up one off of Etsy it’s never been used “crazy “
I’m going to be using it Mr Coleman made to use and enjoy!
You did a great job on restoring your stove it will last you along time!
Well done!
Good video! I have the same 2 burner coleman from a garage sale. $5. Needs some TLC and paint and then will be my secondary camp stove. Purchased a new $20 "Generator". Works like new.
Picking one up tomorrow like new condition for 10 bucks. Great job you did on yours.
Awesome! Thanks a lot!
I just found one in the garbage aout in the same shape. Thank you for inspiring me.
I have restored 2 Coleman 2 burner stoves. One is like yours, a 425-E which belonged to my wife's parents and we inherited it when they passed. I also completely restored a Coleman 425 no letter stove that was made between 1920's - 1930's. It was in worse condition than yours. I used an old plastic trash can and made an electrolysis bath and soaked all the parts including the gas tank. The gas tank is the cylindrical copper colored tank. I repainted everything and found some great copper colored paint for the tank. A friend had given me the stove and a bunch of auto paint that is an exact match for the Coleman green. It took over 2 months to completely restore the stove. I used my airbrush to paint the green. The burner assembly was repainted with high heat aluminum colored paint. I completely disassembled the tank and refurbished everything including a new pump leather. Your stove should have had a leather pump cup so I guess at some time someone replaced the pump assembly with a newer pump assembly that used the rubber type cup. Thanks for the video. W Rusty Lane K9POW in eastern Tennessee
Sounds awesome man! Would love to see the one you restored
While your restoration is cosmetically very good, there are a few problems number one you don't want to use a course wire wheel when cleaning the paint. A finer side angle wheel on a grinder would have been much better. And be extremely careful on the tank preferably using a brass wheel you can knock microscopic pin holes through the metal, that will then be covered over by the paint and will seal for a short period of time eventually they will seep gasoline the amounts may be so small that you can't see them but nonetheless be flammable. I know because I've done this. Also you need to remove the valve from the top of the tank and clean out the fuel air tube and the generator assembly that runs to the burner, when you open the second burner the main flame dropped way down to almost out, that shows that the stove is not getting enough fuel. Also you don't want to use gasoline ever in a Coleman stove only Coleman fluid, or camp stove or Camp gas. Never gasoline from a gas station or anything is designed for an internal combustion engine. No matter how clean you think it is. Remember you're going to cook food over that anything that is combusted in that flame will be carried up in the column of heat around the pan and when cooled fall back into your food. Several people have been made very ill burning gasoline in a Coleman stove, due to the fuel additives being atomized and absorbing into their food. When in general you did a good job on it, just a few technical problems. One more thing check the gasket on that fuel cap. If it's at all questionable and not nice and pliable you should replace it that is a common point of leaks and fires
Good work
Great job!!
Been using one of these for 50 years, good restore.
Looks really good
Great job! Found you while trying to remove the burner on a Coleman Propane Grill Stove. Its new but jas sat for 20 years and one knob will not turn..even using WD40 and pliers. Trying to learn..got a stove like you restored so now of any problems with it..will rewatch your clip! Thanks
Great job
Nice job!
good video! I'm going to redo my stove now
Good work dude!
Thanks man!
So with the pumps, the ones with the leather instead of the rubber are way better. The trick with either is to soak in in Neatsfoot oil for a little while, then reassemble. Your original pump may not have been bad, just needed to be oiled.
Thanks for the insight! I’ll try that next time
@@ChandlerLittle No problem. My dad used to collect Coleman stuff, and I picked it up the last few years myself. I’m still learning as I go, and mostly have worked on lanterns. I was given an old stove by a church member this week and it’ll be my first restoration on a stove.
Kickass job I restore a lot of them I have a sandblaster so it goes fast
Thank you! A sand blaster definitely would have made everything faster
@@ChandlerLittle you did an amazing job by hand I think it makes the food taste better lol
Lol it really does!
The next go around, try a 150 grit sand on everything this to be painted and primed.. Thereafter, paint and tape 2 coats. The final step, Glamore 2k to give it the auto grade toughness...maybe in satin or high gloss?
Ahh, that was more satisfying than eating a Snickers bar. Great job, I'll attempt that with my 425F
Thanks! And good luck
If the pump cup is rubber it's been replaced at some point. They came with leather pump cups.
Nice job. I liked your “character “ comment. Lots of my work has “ character “ too.
Thanks man! The “character” makes things more personal and I think it tells a story. I appreciate you checking it out!
My pump works but can't get gas to come out at the stove even with the valves set like you have them. Any tips? Maybe burner plumbing is trashed?
I’m not sure, sorry
It sounds like it may be trashed or there is some sort of blockage
How did you reattach the grate on the side that broke during removal?
Awesome video! Does anyone know about how long these will run on a tank of fuel??
I’m not sure how long if you go from a full tank to completely empty, but you will be able to get MANY uses out of one full tank
Coleman says one gallon of liquid camp fuel (white gas) equals about 4 1/2 of those common cans of propane. Also, the 40 oz. tank on the stove should run 2 hrs. at FULL HIGH setting, so under normal use it would run a LOT longer than 2hrs. one gallon = 3.2 tankfuls.
I found one in a camper I bought. I’m trying to understand how to use it
Did you use high heat paint? How has the pain held up? It looks great, you did and amazing job.
I used normal spray paint. The metal doesn’t get close enough to the flame to need high heat. Thanks for watching!
@@ChandlerLittle Thanks for answering that - I was wondering that myself.... Nice to know.
Nice job. Well done.
Much appreciated!
That was satisfying to watch!
Thank you!
What spray paints did you use?
what colors did you use to paint it?
Nice job, it looks great! I refurb old Coleman stoves and lanterns as well. Look on the bottom and you should be able to find a mfgr date! (month & year)
Will do! Thanks for the tip
Great job! Is the paint holding up not being hi-temp paint?
Thanks in advance! 👍
Thank you. Paint is holding up great! Haven’t had any issues yet
The tank and case should never get hot so high temp resistant paint would be overkill.
I just acquired one recently through a neighbor and can’t wait to restore it and see if it works! Have you found the paint to last over time? Wasn’t sure if I should get high heat paint or not. Great video!
The paint seems to last. The lid and wind blockers don’t get much heat from the stove itself
I found one of these in the rafters of my garage in my new home. I plan on restoring it as well but mine is older I think as the tank is made of copper or brass. Might be military grade. What kind of fuel is used in these?
They use a white gas. Coleman has their own and there are many off brands
If the tank is brass colored then it's from 1958 or earlier.
Sweet
What was the paint colors called or the paint code? Remember?
Forest green and apple red
This is awesome! But weren’t you worried about lead paint while scrubbing with steel wool?
Didn’t even cross my mind 😅
Lead tends to be in white paint - and sometimes red. So a mask might be wise with the red - but dangerous green paints were a 19th Century problem - so I doubt there'll be any Arsenic in the green paint :)
Impressive
Thank you!
No! No! not red-use heat resistant silver on the pate that hold the burners as well the burner assembly. But It's yours to customizes as you want, until the red paint starts to peel.
Nice job.
Prevent soot by pouring alcohol on the burner cup and lighting that to preheat the generator with a blue flame.
This preheat faster without the soot that is produced by the yellow flame.
That’s great to know. I can’t stand the soot
I just got one from estate sale. Brand new - since 1973 LOL - unused, 99% pristine. I'm watching this to get idea about polishing some parts (e.g. the regulator tube)
Is this one from within your family ?
Got this from someone who was cleaning out their garage. Great find for sure!
I hate those "rubber" pump cups, they don't last long. You can still find original leather pump cups. Just add a few drops of oil through the hole marked "oil" when you use it.
That's great to know! I will keep that in mind for next time. What type of oil do you use?
@@ChandlerLittle any light oil, Marvel Mystery or 3 in 1 oil.
@@ChandlerLittle The proper oil to use is called "Neatsfoot Oil" a few ounces will last you a LONG time. Fiebing's 100% Pure off of Amazon for 9$ is what I use.
@@ChandlerLittle Coleman recommends that you use Neets Foot Oil on the leather pump cups. I have a small bottle and haven't even made a dent in the quantity. W Rusty Lane K9POW in eastern Tennessee
You did a nice job, but I sure wish they made high heat paint in Coleman colors....
Right?! The paint I used seems to be working well though
So jealous of you people in the US. I would love a 426 or 428 but they are as rare as hens-teeth on this side of the Atlantic.
That’s a shame! They are quite fun to use. Might just have to make a trip across the pond
I just bought 2 of these at a thrift store. $15 each. BYT I’m getting serious anxiety about you scratching that countertop
Looking back I should have done everything outside, but the countertop was not scratched!
Please get rid of that filler cap! Put on one of the new brass ones! It looks good, is safer, and will only set you back $10.
Will do! Thanks for the suggestion
Nice job of hiding all of that old rust under a new coat of paint.
Muriatic acid in the tank will get rid of rust. Just be careful.
Good to know!
@@ChandlerLittleNice job on the stove, btw. I just acquired a 426D from 1967 I am restoring and you gave some good input. I learned the acid trick when I used to restore motorcycles in my teens. It worked wonders on the gas tanks. I usually took vinegar and BB's, shaking to get heavy rust and finish with muriatic.
Good job making it look nice again, but please don't call this a restoration.
He literally restored it 😂 he repainted the entire thing and even got some new parts for it..
@@0987__ At best, he refurbished it. A proper restoration would have all old paint removed, striped down to the bare metal. Everything would look new. Do the burners look new? He didn't even bother to sand the old paint to give it a feathered edge for a nice transition.
I hate to say this but you are spending way too much time on restoring it. Even though you got it back to the condition you did. Vinegar goes a long, long, way for everything. What that doesn’t take care of for rust you can get some Naval Jelly (look it up) also. You won’t have to get a wire wheel to attack the majority of the rust because your burning through the physical pieces instead of the surface.
Nice job!