People also buy online to avoid dealing with getting "cool-guy" shamed at a shop. That's a self-destructive behavior that bums me out around any sub-culture like skating.
Dad drops the mother freakin' goods with part deux of the realest talk in the skating game tackling controversial issues such as "cool guying" (minus the shades), supporting your local shop, and a saucy bluetile deal with the wise one Grandfather Dave, wow great job Dad!
I like videos like this that make a brutally honest critique on skateboarding culture. Cause everyone loves to complain about “core skateboarding fading away” and all this corporate shit, but won’t do the extra to support the core brands that they claim to hold so near and dear to their heart. These types of conversations need to happen more often.
the look on dales face when he realizes he said it wasn't international shipping this whole time...the look on my face when I realize I can order a bluetile board to Canada....oh shiiiiiiiiiit
As an owner of a small brand starting in the skateboarding industry, this was a great insight into the "business" side of the sport :) what a guy Dave and Dale!
People who complain about the price of boards need to watch how a skateboard is manufactured, there's so many steps involved, literally a modern marvel of engineering .
I feel like you've really found your niche with these recent videos, they definitely set you apart from john, I love these videos where you go in depth about the inner workings of the skateboarding community, and if David had a channel I would definitely watch it. I can't wait to see more videos like this where you bring in people that really know their stuff and have personal experience from working in the community to talk about the "whys" behind skateboarding, and I also love how you guys mention "cool guying" because I thought I was the only one who would experience that but I would feel it at bigger shops like active and vans.
I don't want skateboarding to die. It's a rough business out there but keep at the grind brother, every time a board is sold memories will be made. Don't cool-guy anyone my dudes.
This is an excellent topic that many have no clue about. You should continue the discussion , and bring in others. Boarders need to understand their actions have consequence. We need to support the people that drive the sport, and understand that letting the giant company's, internet sales into the game means killing the local shops that were there from the beginning. All while understanding that an amazing sport like this is going to attract a lot of people.
I would say that the majority go under b/c skateboarding is meant for 5-15 year olds. One reason might be b/c once you hit 16 you should really be evolving to snowboarding, kiteboarding and kite landboarding, wakeboarding, and small to big wave surfing. So its hard to keep people coming back to a sport.
I saw a great sticker at my local shop that said " I hate skateboarders but I love skateboarding" or something like that and I 100% agree and stand by that
I'm not quite as old school as he is, but I started in 87. Skating will never die. Trust me on that. Even if it dies in popularity, it won't completely die. ever
I've driven out of my way to outlet vans stores and Active clearance stores just to buy cheaper skate goods, didn't really think about how it would affect smaller skateboarding companies though, really good insight on that.
These videos are always super insightful and enlightening thank you! Plus to touch up on the subject of board prices I think it was Jenkim or Ripped Laces that made a post about it.
I did a little research on Etnies, es, emetics, and DC,. Everyone talks about etnies and how Pierre brought a great company. But no one talks about how DC started as a similar brand, but maybe if getting a bad rap now.. I honestly don't like the DC technology. There are only a couple DC shoe models that I would consider wearing. Have you seen the new Reynolds G6????? They are classic
also, was the first part of this yesterday? I didn't watch yesterday's video bc I wasn't intrigued by the thumbnail but David was in this thumbnail so I knew I had to watch
I've heard you say before that people say that skate shoes are expensive. I've always thought they were relatively affordable. When I try to get the best gym shoes and walking shoes for when I don't skate I spend $150 CAN. When I buy the best skate shoe with everything I need in a skate shoe I spend $100 CAN. I realize if you skate a lot you go through more shoes, than gym shoes or whatever, but spending $100 CAN or $69 US (or whatever the price is in the States) for shoes that can survive being rubbed up against grip tape all day long for a few months sounds like a good price to me.
mjc11board exactly! Nobody ever complains about paying 100+ for running shoes. Technically you're supposed to replace them every month as well. (Depending on how much you run)
In the UK they take the same deck as in the US and change the $ to £ so a $55 deck in the US costs £55 in the UK even though £1 is equal to $1.27 right now
Zumiez and Vans are the ONLY skate shops in my area. That's why I order online (muirskate, since I mostly longboard). I looked for a local shop, but the only one went out of business a few years back. 😞
Two of My favorite local shops shut down because kids these days just order online it bummed me out, skateboarding is like ying and yang everything has a positive and negative.
@@daledecker skateboarding def doesnt need full force capitalism to survive. That will def hurt it. But, you can't kill skateboarding itself. Def buy local if you have the resources. I'm a 43 year old idiot. Just my thoughts. Love your yt Dale!! Keep shitting in front of gf!! 🤣🤘
long rant time- I like this guy, he sounds like he really knows his shit in regards to business and it also sounds like his knowledge is hard earned. In terms of briefly adding some counter points, yes, skaters will destroy skating. Unless skating evolves into a more commercially viable activity ( which it appears it is becoming with the rise of longbording, skate vlogs etc. ). If it was still as niche as it was in the 80s/90s yes it would be long dead. in terms of price markups this is a practice called price discrimination and I think you would like it. In terms of where he should be making his profit he should be ( most likely is) making money in things called a *tied goods* which are the other parts of the skateboard example- printers are cheap because they want to sell you the ink. Another thing I see is that in skateboarding there tends to be a lack of consistent message. brands all declare niches and splinter the market. Small brands tend to use this but it effectively makes them a mere trend because they sacrifice longevity for current popularity. While big brands prepare for the long term. last point is that what the phenomena of the internet is doing is separating demographic ages groups. a physical store is becoming fairly obsolete but the thing is *specialized* stores are growing. and the reason I think this is, is because people have no need to shop physically anymore, so they shop socially. So stores have become smaller and smaller, edgier and edgier. Fuck we have a store here in Missouri that sell just olive oils. These shops may not stand the test of time but I feel like if skate shops put in a little more advertising effort, positioned themselves as a small( therefore wiser, better, faster ) option I think there is still room for a specialty skate shop to grow. Just remember everyone born today will never experience life before the internet. Consider it a blessing and a curse. We know what came before it. But we don't know what is happening right now because of that bias.
+Indiequas He runs Bluetile. He's been giving me boards and has been skating longer than I have been alive and probably working in the industry as long as I have been alive. Man I wish we could have a conversation in person so bad. We could go far down the rabbit hole.
Dale Decker lol no worries it's easy to focus my thoughts like this I feel like in person we'd word vomit so hard. Go raid your girlfriends university bookstore lmao. I always buy one random textbook a year(a cheapish one) and I've probably learned more from those random purchases than from professors. all college tends to be ( give or take ) is taught books so if you can find the source of the books you find the knowledge. Have a safe day filming buddy! don't roll your ankle again. Or at least go to the hospital if you do so you can have a sick video thumbnail lol
I live about 40 minutes outside of Pittsburgh and the closest local skate shop besides zumiez is unfortunately literally an hour away from my house not counting city traffic. Mind you I live in the suburbs that is in the middle of 5 different townships, so it's not like I'm out in rural area. It's really hard to support a local skate shop when it's not local AT ALL and the parks I skate have not been funded or given support by them. So I usually buy my equipment from a small Vans store that has a little skate booth or I order offline. sucks but you got to understand there is weird scenarios where you simply cannot support a local skate shop when it's not local.
As long as there is a demand for boards, someone is going to make them to make money. anyone willing to make boards is worth supporting in my opinion. as a big dude i can go through a board or two a month easy. a deck a month, 4ish pairs of shoes for the year, grip, a couple sets of wheels a year i added it up to about 100 dollars a month to skate if everything is full price. Thats almost as much as it costs to feed me for the whole month. for a lot of people (like me) its not about the dilemma of do "do i support my local shop" or not, the dilemma is i either find it cheap online, or i dont skate at all. I understand skateshops cant stay in business if people dont buy stuff there, which is going to be the "full price" as discussed in the video. But skateshops dont sell things at a price that I can justify in my budget to keep skating. Therefore, the online company making things a lot cheaper is the company worth supporting for me, they make it possible for me to skate.
I dont mind spending 80 or 90 on shoes but i hate that griptape shreds them in the same amount of time as a 40 dollar pair. Trying DKL non-abrasive grip in hopes of preventing that.
In regards to 6:11 that makes total sense. As a skater I don't see the point in spending $90 on a pair of shoes that I wreck in a month. Therefore I buy sale shoes. As shitty as it is I don't have the funds to support the core skate companies if I want to keep skating :(
Bro I live in Toronto and boards a lot more expensive! A pro board usually runs between $70 and $90 most places unless you get a warped or discounted one. Lots of shop boards are around $50 but I've seen some towards $70. People should be thankful for getting boards so cheap in america.
Put a nail or a picture frame hanger in the wall, thread the truck holes with fishing line and hang it on, it should hang straight due to gravity but if not just adjust it and it should stay straight.
Time out! I get and support the ethics of supporting local shops, but some skate shops sell each truck individual for the same rate you get a pair through ccs; same goes for bearings. So of course in that case I am going to support online. Hell, I just got a revive board and trucks for under a hundred bucks easy. Oh and my board doesn't get pressure cracks the next day because they're fresh and not sitting around in a semi ac'd room at night in Florida. 58 bucks for deck with a local shop or 52 ( because upgraded grip) bucks at revive. Got a set of trucks for close to 40 bucks. There is no way I am going back to Westisde Skateshop. I refuse to pay more for somethings I can get cheaper online and still get free shipping; I save myself the two hour round trip.
And there is that higher priced product is better stigma even though it's not . The blank deck that is sold in decathlon is the same deck your local brand orders from China . Someone needs to make cheaper and better product with same marketing as other Brands to make change in the Industry
Dude I spent $160 on a pair of Emerica's, and girlfriend got me adidas for $120.. they last 10x longer then any other shoe made to be cheap so I'm saving money by not buying a new pair every week 😏
Jimmy Hoang The Romero model. Not sure if it's because I'm from Australia and I paid full price at a skate shop who doesn't get a high demand for them, either way i''m happy, they last. To be fair it was a while ago aswell, I probably did pay less.
i pay £75 for emericas in england but if i see a pair on sale i always get them. this video made me realise i gotta stop doing that! been skating emericas since 2004, tosh townends
I wish I had a local skate shop my closest shop is about 40 mi away so I tend to shop online but I do try to support shops that do online also or I hunt down shops when I travel and buy their shops brand gear. I’ve been lucky and haven’t ran into the cool guy I see no place in the world for that guy
Get lakai, emerica, and all that to match the price of nike sb, or make the same quality for the price, im skating generic dunks atm, they worth the price, but need to get suede pair next time, easier to flip the board. Now if lakai could offer as good a product as nike sb janoski, or a generic dunk low at the same price point they would be in, but I am yet to see them get near the quality to price ratio, unless ofcourse you find them on sale. Ive had lakai, yet I didnt go back to them at full price, other brands will last longer.
Far out dude, in Australia we pay $110 for a board. Seems as if almost double on average for all types of skate wear. The internet and trends fuck with skating in all sorts of ways.
The old school SKATE PUNX DAYS will never be repeated unfortunately, I wish that the cool guys would just SFU, I don’t care what tricks you can do as long as you can say you enjoy hill bombing or cruising about on your board you got my respect ✌🏻
I dont hate big brands or that skating is popular but it is true that they don't do much for skating other than popularizing it. which again I'm not against. an example is there is a skate park in my town that is falling apart and my local shop raised money to rebuild a bunch of the quarter pipes and replace the rails and even add some new features. these big companies aren't bad they just won't be doing these things for the local community.
Thanks for the reply! I was genuinely curious since you two have such strong opinions on skate brands, Love these types of videos with great discussions
How expensive is it to ride a skateboard in europe? - Deck - you can have a blank minilogo for 35€/43$ - but anything else, no matter if zero, flip, chocolate, almost, girl, habitat, or whatever... youll pay between 50€/62$ and 80€/100$ - Trucks - They start with 16€/20$ but if youre looking for something more special like a Independent Titanium 3 Light, then you will definitely pay 60€/73$ for one truck. - Rolls - Yep, they start with 20€ when they´re on special, but usually youll pay around 40€... if youre looking for maybe a spitfire Formular Four Lock in, you better bring 60€/74$ to the skate shop. - Bearings - as always the good mini logo bearings are only 12€/15$ which is surprisingly cheap, (and lets be fair... they are really good), but if you want some bones... super reds 35€/43$, swiss7 80€/98$.... So... yeah you can have a complete board for 100 Euros (123 usd) / but if you get yourself stuff without taking care of always picking the cheapest, then you will probably end up with a price of around 200€/250$ for a proper board and without going too crazy while choosing your parts. and i would say this is the average value of a skateboard here. Shoes... hehe... for 40 euros you can get yourself some djinns, c1rca, osiris, etnies, dickies, and globes - for skating absolutely perfect - cant do anything wrong with it. But also here... if youre looking for like for example vans ultrarange pro x spitfire or so.... then youre ready to make your 100 to 120 euro investment which is around 150 usd. In my opinion... some of the prices are just gone through the roof, however I cant remember that the prices were any different in the past... I personally think, its damn expensive (or am i maybe wrong? i dont know) How expensive is skateboarding in the usa?
People also buy online to avoid dealing with getting "cool-guy" shamed at a shop. That's a self-destructive behavior that bums me out around any sub-culture like skating.
Jessica Rossman this this this this this
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I love the realness and rawness of this video, you can tell that they are both passionate about this shit man !!
90% of skaters are ignorant and don't understand economics
Dad drops the mother freakin' goods with part deux of the realest talk in the skating game tackling controversial issues such as "cool guying" (minus the shades), supporting your local shop, and a saucy bluetile deal with the wise one Grandfather Dave, wow great job Dad!
I'm commenting this during your intro and I can't wait to finish listening to this amazing conversation
I do that all the time lol, I chime in time to time before the video ends!
I like videos like this that make a brutally honest critique on skateboarding culture. Cause everyone loves to complain about “core skateboarding fading away” and all this corporate shit, but won’t do the extra to support the core brands that they claim to hold so near and dear to their heart. These types of conversations need to happen more often.
the look on dales face when he realizes he said it wasn't international shipping this whole time...the look on my face when I realize I can order a bluetile board to Canada....oh shiiiiiiiiiit
Joe Mclocklin haha this made me laugh out loud
As an owner of a small brand starting in the skateboarding industry, this was a great insight into the "business" side of the sport :) what a guy Dave and Dale!
People who complain about the price of boards need to watch how a skateboard is manufactured, there's so many steps involved, literally a modern marvel of engineering .
I feel like you've really found your niche with these recent videos, they definitely set you apart from john, I love these videos where you go in depth about the inner workings of the skateboarding community, and if David had a channel I would definitely watch it. I can't wait to see more videos like this where you bring in people that really know their stuff and have personal experience from working in the community to talk about the "whys" behind skateboarding, and I also love how you guys mention "cool guying" because I thought I was the only one who would experience that but I would feel it at bigger shops like active and vans.
I don't want skateboarding to die. It's a rough business out there but keep at the grind brother, every time a board is sold memories will be made. Don't cool-guy anyone my dudes.
This is an excellent topic that many have no clue about. You should continue the discussion , and bring in others. Boarders need to understand their actions have consequence. We need to support the people that drive the sport, and understand that letting the giant company's, internet sales into the game means killing the local shops that were there from the beginning. All while understanding that an amazing sport like this is going to attract a lot of people.
@1:47 " skaters👏live👏in👏this👏bubble👏"
I would say that the majority go under b/c skateboarding is meant for 5-15 year olds. One reason might be b/c once you hit 16 you should really be evolving to snowboarding, kiteboarding and kite landboarding, wakeboarding, and small to big wave surfing. So its hard to keep people coming back to a sport.
I saw a great sticker at my local shop that said " I hate skateboarders but I love skateboarding" or something like that and I 100% agree and stand by that
I'm not quite as old school as he is, but I started in 87. Skating will never die. Trust me on that. Even if it dies in popularity, it won't completely die. ever
great discussion please post part 3 if you can
Never been “cool guy’d” at my local shops. Hope I never have to deal with that behavior, but those kind of people are poison bruh.
I've driven out of my way to outlet vans stores and Active clearance stores just to buy cheaper skate goods, didn't really think about how it would affect smaller skateboarding companies though, really good insight on that.
These videos are always super insightful and enlightening thank you! Plus to touch up on the subject of board prices I think it was Jenkim or Ripped Laces that made a post about it.
in switzerland we pay circa 80 bux per deck and circa 90 bux for one pair off shoes
Skateboards here in Canada are 70$ and skate shoes are 100-110$
Z I as well live in Burlington Ontario and the prices are pretty bullshit
Starting my own skate business, this video is really good insight and I have really seen this applied to the local shop I've worked at
Dale the whole time:👏👏🖐🏼👏👏✋👏👏✊👏👏☝️👏👏👋
Ive skated since 84 also..i remember my very first slammin"to the ground..crazy..ib feelin olde" now! Thanks daledo
Great video!! I was bummed when part 1 ended lol.
David is such a sound guy
In Australia right now boards are $100
1 mango is 9$
Same in Austria!
MellonSkate holy shit!!
That's 10 bucks cheaper than when I lived there in 89-91
I did a little research on Etnies, es, emetics, and DC,. Everyone talks about etnies and how Pierre brought a great company. But no one talks about how DC started as a similar brand, but maybe if getting a bad rap now.. I honestly don't like the DC technology. There are only a couple DC shoe models that I would consider wearing. Have you seen the new Reynolds G6????? They are classic
*emerica*
Adri Miller the new Reynolds def looks sick
this is so fascinating, I don't usually care about the business side of things but this makes me want to see the numbers
The average price for a board in Australia is around $70-$100 AUD or even $120 sometimes (deck only)
Yes but we have to pay import fees, currency exchange rates and have a higher minimum wage so it's about the same price.
also, was the first part of this yesterday? I didn't watch yesterday's video bc I wasn't intrigued by the thumbnail but David was in this thumbnail so I knew I had to watch
+KristiCheese yeah the first part was yesterday
Is that Ron Chatman in the background?
Howard Broom dude I wish
We don't have skate shops where I'm at. We have surf shops that sell Santa Cruz..
For the longest time I thought the bluetile boards said lluctile cuz the font
it does say that they don't know how to make the letter B lol.
Jaden Auer haha! That's the street canoe font my buddy jay draws it. I love it.
I've heard you say before that people say that skate shoes are expensive. I've always thought they were relatively affordable. When I try to get the best gym shoes and walking shoes for when I don't skate I spend $150 CAN. When I buy the best skate shoe with everything I need in a skate shoe I spend $100 CAN. I realize if you skate a lot you go through more shoes, than gym shoes or whatever, but spending $100 CAN or $69 US (or whatever the price is in the States) for shoes that can survive being rubbed up against grip tape all day long for a few months sounds like a good price to me.
mjc11board exactly! Nobody ever complains about paying 100+ for running shoes. Technically you're supposed to replace them every month as well. (Depending on how much you run)
In the UK they take the same deck as in the US and change the $ to £ so a $55 deck in the US costs £55 in the UK even though £1 is equal to $1.27 right now
Zumiez and Vans are the ONLY skate shops in my area. That's why I order online (muirskate, since I mostly longboard). I looked for a local shop, but the only one went out of business a few years back. 😞
Thank you very much for part 2🙏
Did this video not show up in anyone else's subscription feed?
In Poland deck cost about 70 dollars... and the prices has rised about 20% in last two years
Well I don't have a local skate shop because it closed a few years ago
Two of My favorite local shops shut down because kids these days just order online it bummed me out, skateboarding is like ying and yang everything has a positive and negative.
it's crazy how true this it is, good job dale always good content 👍
These old heads gotta learn how to adapt... time is constantly changing and if u dont adapt with it you will get left behind ... common sense
yeah thats what the entire industry is trying to do.
@@daledecker skateboarding def doesnt need full force capitalism to survive. That will def hurt it. But, you can't kill skateboarding itself. Def buy local if you have the resources. I'm a 43 year old idiot. Just my thoughts. Love your yt Dale!! Keep shitting in front of gf!! 🤣🤘
"Weed, booze,and shoes"😂😂💀
49 dollars for a board!!
Shit over here in England I have to pay 100 quid for a Santa Cruz roskopp deck
long rant time- I like this guy, he sounds like he really knows his shit in regards to business and it also sounds like his knowledge is hard earned. In terms of briefly adding some counter points, yes, skaters will destroy skating. Unless skating evolves into a more commercially viable activity ( which it appears it is becoming with the rise of longbording, skate vlogs etc. ). If it was still as niche as it was in the 80s/90s yes it would be long dead.
in terms of price markups this is a practice called price discrimination and I think you would like it. In terms of where he should be making his profit he should be ( most likely is) making money in things called a *tied goods* which are the other parts of the skateboard example- printers are cheap because they want to sell you the ink.
Another thing I see is that in skateboarding there tends to be a lack of consistent message. brands all declare niches and splinter the market. Small brands tend to use this but it effectively makes them a mere trend because they sacrifice longevity for current popularity. While big brands prepare for the long term.
last point is that what the phenomena of the internet is doing is separating demographic ages groups. a physical store is becoming fairly obsolete but the thing is *specialized* stores are growing. and the reason I think this is, is because people have no need to shop physically anymore, so they shop socially. So stores have become smaller and smaller, edgier and edgier. Fuck we have a store here in Missouri that sell just olive oils. These shops may not stand the test of time but I feel like if skate shops put in a little more advertising effort, positioned themselves as a small( therefore wiser, better, faster ) option I think there is still room for a specialty skate shop to grow. Just remember everyone born today will never experience life before the internet. Consider it a blessing and a curse. We know what came before it. But we don't know what is happening right now because of that bias.
+Indiequas He runs Bluetile. He's been giving me boards and has been skating longer than I have been alive and probably working in the industry as long as I have been alive. Man I wish we could have a conversation in person so bad. We could go far down the rabbit hole.
Dale Decker lol no worries it's easy to focus my thoughts like this I feel like in person we'd word vomit so hard. Go raid your girlfriends university bookstore lmao. I always buy one random textbook a year(a cheapish one) and I've probably learned more from those random purchases than from professors. all college tends to be ( give or take ) is taught books so if you can find the source of the books you find the knowledge. Have a safe day filming buddy! don't roll your ankle again. Or at least go to the hospital if you do so you can have a sick video thumbnail lol
for this and the last video alone, you deserve 900k subs at minimum. keep it up!
I live about 40 minutes outside of Pittsburgh and the closest local skate shop besides zumiez is unfortunately literally an hour away from my house not counting city traffic. Mind you I live in the suburbs that is in the middle of 5 different townships, so it's not like I'm out in rural area. It's really hard to support a local skate shop when it's not local AT ALL and the parks I skate have not been funded or given support by them. So I usually buy my equipment from a small Vans store that has a little skate booth or I order offline. sucks but you got to understand there is weird scenarios where you simply cannot support a local skate shop when it's not local.
As long as there is a demand for boards, someone is going to make them to make money. anyone willing to make boards is worth supporting in my opinion. as a big dude i can go through a board or two a month easy. a deck a month, 4ish pairs of shoes for the year, grip, a couple sets of wheels a year i added it up to about 100 dollars a month to skate if everything is full price. Thats almost as much as it costs to feed me for the whole month. for a lot of people (like me) its not about the dilemma of do "do i support my local shop" or not, the dilemma is i either find it cheap online, or i dont skate at all. I understand skateshops cant stay in business if people dont buy stuff there, which is going to be the "full price" as discussed in the video. But skateshops dont sell things at a price that I can justify in my budget to keep skating. Therefore, the online company making things a lot cheaper is the company worth supporting for me, they make it possible for me to skate.
I dont mind spending 80 or 90 on shoes but i hate that griptape shreds them in the same amount of time as a 40 dollar pair. Trying DKL non-abrasive grip in hopes of preventing that.
Good to know that about new balance..I know what my new shoes will be...thanks
Love these talks about the industry
I completely understand now why my local shop in metro Detroit target the sneaker heads with the newest SB dunks, thanks for the vid dale
In regards to 6:11 that makes total sense. As a skater I don't see the point in spending $90 on a pair of shoes that I wreck in a month. Therefore I buy sale shoes. As shitty as it is I don't have the funds to support the core skate companies if I want to keep skating :(
all i do is buy from my local shops because i do not want my local to go away i mostly skate shop boards
R.I.P Active
I would buy a Bluetile board but the shipping is more expensive than the actual board :/
Had somebody cool guy me at a shop. He really was no help. So I went a few miles to another shop that we're very helpful and I got my setup from them.
I paid 128$ for the Supra Ellingtons in Sydney Australia
Bro I live in Toronto and boards a lot more expensive! A pro board usually runs between $70 and $90 most places unless you get a warped or discounted one. Lots of shop boards are around $50 but I've seen some towards $70. People should be thankful for getting boards so cheap in america.
bluetilelounge.ca/collections/blue-tile-lounge/products/blue-tile-lounge-shop-deck-grieco-division this is a great deck, rad shop on dundas.
oh shit, I've herd of blue tile lounge before! I'll have to check em out.
I’m here because I wanna start my own board company and damn I got a lot of work to do
So what if I buy from a chain shop like active? Does that fit into online/shops losing money, or does it fit into local shop/supporting a shop?
DALE how do u hang up the boards on your wall??? I've been trying different ways but can't seem how to do it like yours
Tell me your magical wisdom
Put a nail or a picture frame hanger in the wall, thread the truck holes with fishing line and hang it on, it should hang straight due to gravity but if not just adjust it and it should stay straight.
Dale you should see blue tale make some boards with your awesome pictures
Dale the goat 🐐 😤
Time out! I get and support the ethics of supporting local shops, but some skate shops sell each truck individual for the same rate you get a pair through ccs; same goes for bearings. So of course in that case I am going to support online. Hell, I just got a revive board and trucks for under a hundred bucks easy. Oh and my board doesn't get pressure cracks the next day because they're fresh and not sitting around in a semi ac'd room at night in Florida. 58 bucks for deck with a local shop or 52 ( because upgraded grip) bucks at revive. Got a set of trucks for close to 40 bucks. There is no way I am going back to Westisde Skateshop. I refuse to pay more for somethings I can get cheaper online and still get free shipping; I save myself the two hour round trip.
I still go shops get my boards shirts whatever but I live in Ohio and I literally think there's like 3 shops in total in like 5 county's around me fr
In the UK boards are on average £55-60 so that's $72, I wish boards where as cheap as they are in the US
Dude, if Bluetile ships to Australia I'm down to buy some gear.
Mate boards in Australia cost like $110
Yeah they do here too
wow, this talk made me really want to buy some bluetile gear. but i only buy skate stuff under $30 from ebay
Good talk, Real talk
dude dale im in canada and im buying bluetile shit right now tell dave if possble and tell him to shout out canada!
my local shop sells boards for 80
And there is that higher priced product is better stigma even though it's not . The blank deck that is sold in decathlon is the same deck your local brand orders from China . Someone needs to make cheaper and better product with same marketing as other Brands to make change in the Industry
this video is a blessing
Dale, the board with the book covered, what company? is it possible to still cop?
Dude I spent $160 on a pair of Emerica's, and girlfriend got me adidas for $120.. they last 10x longer then any other shoe made to be cheap so I'm saving money by not buying a new pair every week 😏
What "pair of Emerica's" did you buy?? Wtf
Jimmy Hoang The Romero model.
Not sure if it's because I'm from Australia and I paid full price at a skate shop who doesn't get a high demand for them, either way i''m happy, they last.
To be fair it was a while ago aswell, I probably did pay less.
Very nice videos.. This is happening everywhere all over the world.. Like he said, it is hard to stay alive as a shop when there is internet
I have distributed products in The Netherlands and have seen a lot of simularities
i pay £75 for emericas in england but if i see a pair on sale i always get them. this video made me realise i gotta stop doing that! been skating emericas since 2004, tosh townends
But in france it's 68 to 80 dollars
Unfortunately bluetile still does not ship to Bulgaria :/
OG chucks are the best but don't know what I want next
I wish I had a local skate shop my closest shop is about 40 mi away so I tend to shop online but I do try to support shops that do online also or I hunt down shops when I travel and buy their shops brand gear. I’ve been lucky and haven’t ran into the cool guy I see no place in the world for that guy
Bro y'all are like the most chill skaters ever y'all like the best😁👍
Get lakai, emerica, and all that to match the price of nike sb, or make the same quality for the price, im skating generic dunks atm, they worth the price, but need to get suede pair next time, easier to flip the board. Now if lakai could offer as good a product as nike sb janoski, or a generic dunk low at the same price point they would be in, but I am yet to see them get near the quality to price ratio, unless ofcourse you find them on sale. Ive had lakai, yet I didnt go back to them at full price, other brands will last longer.
Took one glance at the thumbnail and thought older guy was Bryan Betz... just an older version of Bryan Betz
I still skate airwalks always have it pisses me off they sell at Payless granted only they're inferior models
Far out dude, in Australia we pay $110 for a board. Seems as if almost double on average for all types of skate wear. The internet and trends fuck with skating in all sorts of ways.
Where are you getting 30 dollar shoes please tell me
The old school SKATE PUNX DAYS will never be repeated unfortunately, I wish that the cool guys would just SFU, I don’t care what tricks you can do as long as you can say you enjoy hill bombing or cruising about on your board you got my respect ✌🏻
literally just paid $65 for another pair of globes (shut up, I know Im wearing old man puffy shoes)
I just paid 100 for a pair of Globes
Would have been super difficult to follow if this was spread out as much as you originally intended. Glad you did it this way...
Where's part 1?
I dont hate big brands or that skating is popular but it is true that they don't do much for skating other than popularizing it. which again I'm not against. an example is there is a skate park in my town that is falling apart and my local shop raised money to rebuild a bunch of the quarter pipes and replace the rails and even add some new features. these big companies aren't bad they just won't be doing these things for the local community.
I wonder if they know that Converse is owned by Nike
+Sam lol yeah we know
Sam yup!
Thanks for the reply! I was genuinely curious since you two have such strong opinions on skate brands, Love these types of videos with great discussions
Thanks Dale
How expensive is it to ride a skateboard in europe?
- Deck - you can have a blank minilogo for 35€/43$ - but anything else, no matter if zero, flip, chocolate, almost, girl, habitat, or whatever... youll pay between 50€/62$ and 80€/100$
- Trucks - They start with 16€/20$ but if youre looking for something more special like a Independent Titanium 3 Light, then you will definitely pay 60€/73$ for one truck.
- Rolls - Yep, they start with 20€ when they´re on special, but usually youll pay around 40€... if youre looking for maybe a spitfire Formular Four Lock in, you better bring 60€/74$ to the skate shop.
- Bearings - as always the good mini logo bearings are only 12€/15$ which is surprisingly cheap, (and lets be fair... they are really good), but if you want some bones... super reds 35€/43$, swiss7 80€/98$....
So... yeah you can have a complete board for 100 Euros (123 usd) / but if you get yourself stuff without taking care of always picking the cheapest, then you will probably end up with a price of around 200€/250$ for a proper board and without going too crazy while choosing your parts. and i would say this is the average value of a skateboard here.
Shoes... hehe... for 40 euros you can get yourself some djinns, c1rca, osiris, etnies, dickies, and globes - for skating absolutely perfect - cant do anything wrong with it. But also here... if youre looking for like for example vans ultrarange pro x spitfire or so.... then youre ready to make your 100 to 120 euro investment which is around 150 usd.
In my opinion... some of the prices are just gone through the roof, however I cant remember that the prices were any different in the past... I personally think, its damn expensive (or am i maybe wrong? i dont know)
How expensive is skateboarding in the usa?