My dad watch this movie without knowing it was a gay relationship. He literally just realize in the exact moment they started being intimate. Then, he looked at me and ask if I had seen this movie before. That's how I came out 😎
i think anne hathaways character does know about Ennis, and i think she kind of loves him. she loves that he truly loves jack. i think she understands his pain. which is why she tells him about jacks wish to be buried at brokeback mountain. i also think she knew jack was gay for a while. the comment she makes about husbands never wanting to dance with their wives was kind of a nod to the fact that she knew and was not mad about it. also i think she knew he was killed, because i think she knew about jack and the new ranch hand on the side. shes the more understanding of the dichotomy of the two wives. she appreciated that jack was good to her anyway. a good husband, and father. its so sad. after watching this movie, everytime, i cry for the rest of the day. thank you for your review. i like watching you watching the movie. your insights were heartening.
some women dont need to be inlove, specifically. they just need a good man. and can appreciate a good man whether they are gay or straight. and a good heart. long relationships always lose that spark of newness, and turn into a partnership. they take so many forms. but ive known many women like anne hathaways character. i think michelle willams character felt emotionally neglected. which was a prime difference between the two characters.
Really interesting thoughts. Thank you for sharing. It certainly is important to consider everyones perspectives in LGBT stories, including those who don't necessarily identify as that. Thanks for the support! X
This movie literally represents now. Just because you live in a developed country doesn't mean that this same story is not happening in a third world country. It still happens today and I just wish someday the whole world could live like you guys in a place where you feel safe to say what you really like and be your true self.
I think everyone wants to se that future 💪🏼 We are incredibly privileged to life in the country that we do which was fought for by those that came before us. We try to remind ourselves of that fact and support those around the world who are less fortunate 🏳️🌈
That phone call with Jack's wife always gets me. if i remember correctly in the book it mentions Ennis was traumatized as a kid by his father showing him a dead body of a man beat to death for being gay and that's why Ennis closed himself off from his true self. The final scene of Ennis looking fondly at a picture of Brokeback Mountain and Jack's shirt is heartbreaking anyways goddamn this movie is a masterpiece, its such a shame it was snubbed best picture over some terrible movie literally nobody can name without googling meanwhile Brokeback Mountain will and has gone down as an instant classic
This movie hit too close to home when I first saw it....I couldn't allow myself to cry...because I had lived it and moved past it....it was when I bought the DVD and watched it alone at home that I could allow myself to cry over this picture. I was born in 1957, and being gay in the country in Ohio wasn't an option for someone who wanted to be successful or accepted. I was married to a woman from 1977-1988...I told her when we got engaged that I had only had sex with boys in my teens...we did love each other...she was kind and loved me and understood my difficulty reconciling my attraction to men. As time went on, having sex with her became a chore....we dad a daughter (and now a granddaughter), so there are wonderful things that have come from the difficulties and confusions from living at that time...I asked for the divorce, she said I could screw who I wanted if I stayed with her....but I wanted to be in love with a person I was attracted to....she retaliated by outing me at work...and I was fired after over 10 yrs with the company. I had met my first boyfriend just before that and it doomed that relationship when I lost my job. (We reconciled as friends in 1993, as he was dying from AIDS as his then partner and family were fighting over his estate before he was even dead) ....again, it was a different, and very frightening, time. Being married to a woman probably saved my life...I went to funerals of friends and acquaintances at the pace of 2-3 per month from 1993- 1996.... All I ever wanted was to find a man to love and love me back....and this picture just hit too close to home, since my journey has not resulted in a husband (but several bfs along the way)... As America is sliding toward fascism, I fear that things we were sure were over for LGBT people in America, are now up for debate again....and the assault is coming for us. I hope a picture like this is a warning for today's queers not to assume that things can't go back to this and that we may once again have to deal with things like sodomy laws, loss of marriage rights, and public hate, ridicule, and violence. Sigh..... I thought we were past all this, but not in America....fascists need enemies to keep hold of power ....and after getting abortion rescinded in more than half the country, the queers will be next. Sigh.
Dear Sigh . I understand your frustration and pain however disagree with Your current position. 2025 is not near fascism of previous decades. Live your life and OWN it . The current issue has been nothing more than telling people to make believe facts aren’t facts.
It's funny that you should mention the question of when people started realizing they're going to get together. I went with friends to see it in theaters and one strict Christian member didn't realize until the actual deed was happening and gasped out, "They don't turn gay, do that?!" I turned to my friend and asked why she didn't warn her, and it turned out she did, the girl thought she was being sarcastic. She ended up staying throughout it through and cried at the end, so, I think it was something.
I watched this movie a few weeks ago and wow, that movie hurts so much. Even after all this time, I'm still thinking about this movie. R.i.p Heath Ledger
I got like reallyyyyy excited when I saw this notification! 💜 you guys. Brokeback is a masterpiece. I had to drive 75 miles away from my home to see it at the time. It wasn’t until it became nominated for so many Oscars that it played near me. Edit: I am so emotional and a total bottom so I’d have to be Jake even though I’ve always lived my authentic self.
Loved reading this comment so much! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and personal experience. We love hearing other peoples perspective and think it's so important! Especially in the context of a film like Brokeback Mountain. Peace and love x
"At what point would Steve, the straight guy who saw it with his wife, catch on?" Well, I don't know. But I can tell you that Mike the straight guy saw it with his girlfriend, and they had the best sex they ever had after the film. It's definitely a gay story, but it's also a passion story. An intense one.
I think the first sexual scene is also not romantic because Ennis doesn't want this but he needs it. He knows he has feelings but can't deal with that. I don't think is selfish, Ennis really felt he didn't have another choice, Jack tried. I do get the anger from Alma but I still think is was a very different time. The part with the turkey xD I just realized it this time the liquid around the meat xD The speech from Jack about the loneliness kills me everytime and the ending with the shirt it always makes me wanna crawl in a ball and cry for days.
Well, I actually like how both Jack and Ennis are not portrayed as inherently morally good all the time. It also shows the real hurt they put on their wives by their relationship, and these actions are not excused, however, through the narrative, the movie ultimately roots this hurt back to the oppressive society who makes it unable for Jack and Ennis to live authentically to their true self and thus illustrating how oppression hurts everyone eventually, or at least more people than just those of the minorized groups.
I’m a lesbian woman and enjoyed your reaction greatly. I truly love this film and always have. It’s one of the most heartbreaking, beautiful and tragic love stories ever made. And as ridiculous, irritating and hard to believe as it may be, when it came out in 2005 it was not only the first of its kind, it was considered controversial and shocking. 2005 was also a time period when making a film with these characters and this subject matter was still considered exceptionally brave and risky for actors to do. Also, Despite the fact that it contains only one scene of intimacy, and that scene shows next to nothing in terms of skin, the uproar at the time was epic. And it was RIDICULOUS. All that aside, here is a little bit of info on a couple of things you wondered about or mentioned while watching the film: *While the film does not explicitly make it clear how Jack died, in the short story the film was adapted by, it’s clear that Jack did die the way Ennis was picturing it while speaking to Lureen on the phone. *In the short story, Ennis confirms for himself how Jack died when he visits Jack’s parents. During Ennis’s visit to Jack’s parent’s farm as depicted in the film and discussed in the short story, Jack’s father mentions Jack had been talking about bringing a different rancher from a nearby neighboring ranch, who was leaving his wife, to build a cabin and live together on the family farm and rebuild it. It’s at this moment in the short story that Ennis confirms in thought how Jack actually died. *It’s also not explicitly stated in the film, but if you recall, there was a scene where Jack and a man, a man who’d just moved to town with his wife, were seated on a bench outside a resturant where he and both their wives had just had dinner. And the man, who’d been eyeing Jack w/ inviting, lustful eyes the entire time through dinner, said he should come to his boss’s cabin with him sometime and “go fishing”, which was clearly code; to which Jack looks at him clearly understanding, yet before he can speak, the wives come out. It’s implied in the story that this is the ranch neighbor that is leaving his wife to take up with Jack and live out their years together. In the short story, it’s also told that at the time of his death Jack and Lureen were in the process divorcing, AND THAT SHE DID KNOW ABOUT JACK, which is not mentioned at all in the film. Apparently, Jack had tried that one last time to be with Ennis (it’s the last time they see each other and get in that fight when Ennis says he can’t see him again until November and Jack also tells Ennis he’s going up to see his parents), however he’d finally given up and decided he was going to be with that other man and they were both leaving their wives. Which is also implied as what leads to his murder. Either someone saw the two of them together and it was apparent, they’d been caught in the act, or his wife who he was leaving had become suspicious and spread the word. Whatever the case may be, Jack did die the way it flashed back too during the phone call scene. * Just some historical info for clarity: You mention that you believe that the Q word was being used in a derogatory manner when Ennis says it to Jack. Yet we must remember the year was 1963. In the 60’s the Q word was not necessarily the derogatory term that it came to be in the 80’s; but simply the term that was used to mean gay, as gay was not even yet used. The F word and the terms “Mary”, “Fruit” etc. were actually the derogatory terms in the 60’s. Hope some of this was useful. Looking forward to watching more of your channel. Take care 👍
Hello I am writing a queer historical novel and have done A Lot of research on the history of gay linguistics. "Gay" has been used to refer to queer people since the mid-late 1920s, but started (outside its original meaning) as a derogatory word straight people decided to call non-straights, and for a long time was restricted in spread mainly to metropolitan areas. "Queer" has been used by-queers-for-queers since at least 1906 - it appears in a queer man's memoir published that year - but certainly for years before then (as language generally comes into common use around a decade before its first appearance in widespread published work). Before then, terms like "Uranian" (modern: gay) and "Dionian" (modern: straight) had been in use in some places, and "homosexualism" or "homosexuality" had cropped up from time to time, but not yet "homosexual" (that, too, would come in the late 20s-early 30s). In America, "Queer" started getting pushed out in favour of "gay" in the late 60s-early 70s, around the same time the term "gold-star lesbian" started cropping up and "bisexual" was coined by said "gold-stars" to describe self-identified lesbians who had ever had sex with a man or a trans woman (modern usage of bisexual would come soon after) - its use as a derogatory term had nothing to do with it, as "gay" has also always been used as a derogatory term. Second-wave feminist lesbians just wanted to exist distinctly from gay men, and so eschewed "queer" as a catch-all term in favour of "gay and lesbian" (though "gay" has since become a catch-all in turn). Both "queer" and "gay" have gone through several reclamation periods throughout different countries, and "lesbian" is currently undergoing an intra-community reclamation period to return to the broader term it originally was. I hope you find this all as interesting as I have throughout my research!
@@titaniumvulpes I’m from Scotland and England. Perhaps it differs in country and region as gay quite literally means happy here, as well as being periodically used to mean same sex attracted (although the term homosexual is used much more), and queer has never been a derogatory term for gay people in my regions. It’s always meant odd or just gay, but not in a derogatory way. Derogatory terms from last century were “Mary”, “fruit”, “twinkle toes” etc. Perhaps in your research of your particular region that is not so. 🤷♀️
Just saw this film again a few months ago and it still got me. It always hits me how despite how many years have passed since the 60’s there are men who can’t be their true selves because of society/religion/etc. With political parties like the extreme right on the rise, it makes you wonder if we’ll ever truly live in a society where people and families don’t have be broken by homophobia.
Oh, I think you are not being realistic at all. Gays in the US have virtually the same rights as anybody else now. Some religions don't participate in same sex marriage, but that is their right in a land of freedom of belief; just as we have the freedom to disagree. There will never come a time when homosexuality will be 100% accepted. When is *anything* 100% accepted?! But compared to only a few years ago, it's like a paradise of tolerance and freedom. You might consider being a little more grateful and optimistic.
@@rogerwhite95 I think you should educate yourself on the number of people that still get bashed and the number of trans people being killed all over the world. There are many countries that still criminalize lgbtq and deny us rights. What a narrow view you must have. Next time wake up and check your fucking privilege before you tell someone to be “grateful”.
First of all, the extreme right isn't a political party. Secondly you've already got what you wanted but you'll never be happy and nothing will ever be enough. Being gay isn't illegal now and hasn't been for some time. The problem you're having is that you want to force conservative Christians, Muslims and Jews to change their entire world view. Sorry but you don't get to infringe on their freedoms just because you don't like it. It was wrong when they did it to you and it's wrong when you do it to them. If everyone kept out of each others business there'd be a lot less problems...
14:55 I also think that this way of storytelling represents love in a more accurate way since it always starts out with these rose-tinted glasses you have on. You love a person and you want to be with them forever and you don’t care about what else is there to life. It’s only later when you have to start balancing your life and your surroundings with your relationship. That’s when many relationships end because you figure out that it all actually doesn’t work. It’s almost tragic because you can’t remain in your own world forever. You can’t spend your whole life on Brokeback. At some point you have to get back to your life, and that’s when it gets difficult.
Point of information, re: "Spit doesn't do that." In the short story, there is a mention of saddle grease, or something equally lubricating and cowboy-related, being available and used in the tent "encounter."
Thank you for the information, I have been wondering about this. I also saw a theory that Jack seems more experienced so maybe he had been doing some prep work beforehand.
The film is subtle in its portrays, it is left to us to analyse what we see. When Ennis listens from Jack that they are finishing work a month early, he doesn’t quite admit he is frustrated, he never openly expresses his feelings. To say goodbye with a punch in a face is a good way to represent how these guys where brought up as “ manly man” in western American society. Violence is how you react to repression, talking is always difficult. The trauma these guys take from childhood is also mentioned rapidly, we are the ones that have to associate that reality with their personalities and reactions, especially when it comes to Ennis, who has difficulty in developing relations, as we see with his daughter, for example. There are a lot of symbols.
You know what strikes me about those two cowboys. They say if we're discovered we're dead. And yet, shortly after the very first they make out with one another they get caught in the act by their employer. And again, at the very moment, they share their very first kiss, Ennis's wife sees them. They are either so increadibly unlucky or so piss poor at concealing their relationship it is bordering on parody!
1:30 - The first time I saw the trailer in theaters, it WAS advertised as queer! I was so shocked when I first saw it! And believe me when I tell you that news of the "gay cowboy movie" spread like WILDFIRE lol it was such an unreal moment in time, especially since Passion of the Christ had only come out one year before.
I saw this movie at the cinema with my mum back in 2005. She was the person I could share all things artsy with and we would have endless conversations about the concerts, movies, operas, ballets, plays etc we'd seen. After we watched this one we went out for dinner and just sat in silence for the first 15 minutes, drinking our Pinot Grigio, sobbing and being generally overwhelmed. Eventually got to chatting again, talking about nothing and everything. We had a really lovely time, it was one of those nights when everything felt raw, vivid and rather sincere. Mum passed away five years ago - I rewatch this movie once or twice every year and it feels like spending quality time with her, like she's a little bit closer again.
Your comments about happiness being a spectrum really resonated with me. It took me a long, long time to decide if I was a lesbian or not, because a lot of discussions about gay vs straight identity acted as if being gay means being absolutely disgusted by the thought of being in a straight relationship, or being truly made miserable by it. But for me, whether it be because I'd spent so long getting used to the idea, or because so many men were beloved friends of mine, the idea of being in a relationship with a man did not disgust me, or make me feel sad. It really would be fine. I could be reasonably happy like that. But it does not *thrill* me, doesn't excite or entice or lure me the way the love of a woman does. Does it make me less gay, knowing that a "straight" relationship would still feel acceptable, even if not pure happiness? I do not believe so, but others might. It was such a casual conversation between you, but I've never had these thoughts validated before.
Great review of a raw passionate love story and emotional journey of the acceptance of their life situations! They both had incredible charisma, RIP Heath.
The best thing about this movie is it is so well done that you leave knowing you have seen an astounding love story. The fact that it was 2 men doesn't even register.
I went to see this at the Odeon in Chester right at the end of its cinema screening period and so it was in the tiniest room of the theatre, I would have been about 13 then and I’d dragged my mother along, must have been a Sunday afternoon. My abiding memory, aside from the beautiful film, is my mum nodding off two mins in and waking up with a shriek in the middle of the tent scene
Looking for movie reactions I came across your channel. I IMMEDIATELY subscribed. I drove 300 miles to see this when it came out. Asked my straight friend in that town if he wanted to see it. He declined. A few months later when he had a girlfriend, she talked him into renting it while I was again visiting him. He liked it and even took out his guitar and from ear played some of the music. Remained friends until he passed.
My husband is straight and he totally would have read the same thing into the can of beans exploding. He points that kind of stuff out to me all the time because I'm very literal-minded.
This movie means a lot to me because it’s what got me to become a passionate ally to the LGBTQ+ community. I had never been so angry seeing someone killed just for trying to be their authentic self. It remains my favorite LGBTQ+ movie of all time.
I really love this movie but have never rewatched it. I tried once, but stopped once they got off that mountain for the first time. The music especially... Wow. Gustavo Santaolalla is a talented, gifted mf (also worked on my favorite games of all time, The Last of Us). I really appreciated this video. As a young guy who's figuring out my bisexuality, and is mostly closeted, this video was really nice. Like having a good talk with some friends. It just made me feel okay for a short while. So thanks for that. Also, I'm definitely a Jake lol
just stumbled upon this channel cause i was curious if there were any positive vids on brokeback mountain now and there are which just makes me so insanely happy. ill always love this movie. i remember seeing it as a young southern gay and it was life changing. still one of if not my favorite movie of all time. it was what i believe the start of me unlearning a lot of internalized homophobia. it brought to the screen something i could relate to. the fear of having to hide. the fear of my family rejecting me. of never having a lover in the first place. of being murdered. AND ALL THAT WAS AS A CHILD. like its insane the amount this movie captures. i could have been like them. im happily married now (thats its legal which is still hard to wrap my mind around sometimes lol) but it impacted me so profoundly its hard to put into words. i also simply cannot trust people who make fun of this movie. its one of the WORST first impressions someone can give off for me if im honest cause i just know they missed the point if they even finished the movie. also the buy in point you make i believe was very much intentional. i think it was to draw in people with a love story, which it is. then to point out why that love cannot happen, which i assume many people also found themselves being like "oh" cause they just saw this love as valid but then slapped in the face by views that they could possibly share that prevent this kind of love from flourishing. this was such a lovely vid and totally new sub. 💖✨ tragically beautiful film. an absolute classic. thank you so much for doing it justice. oh also i cant pick between the guys i love them both 😂 #greedybottom? to anyone that stumbles across this comment and isnt out, i just want to take a moment to say thats fine. take your time. coming out is mostly for yourself, when you are ready. cause gonna be honest, you come out MANY times in life. when you meet new people, when you move, start a new job, etc. youll almost always be "coming out" its not just this one and done thing, so do it at your own pace when you are ready. there is no shame or guilt in it. there is plenty of time to be proud and plenty to be proud of even now. please do not give up.
You young men have the luxury of not being alive in the 70’s and 80’s. If you were flamboyant and openly gay, doors were closed to you. If you were a man of power and earning potential and you were found out about, it ruined your life. Men got married because bachelor men didn’t advance, you actually have to prove you’re settled with a wife, home and child(ren) in order to advance in prestige and earning potential. The only jobs for gay men to advance in were books/video stores, gay bars and toy shipment companies with advertisements in gay magazines. Else you were a bartender, cook, waiter or shoe salesman. In the 80’s it was “the gay cancer” that horrified all gay men. I was a graduating teen at that time and scared to even sleep with a man even though I had been sexually active since I was 14. You younger generations have it so much better now and it’s hard not to be jealous for now I’m almost 60 and gays are the most prejudiced of all when it comes to age. It’s STILL not a good time to be gay. If you’re old.
Guys...it WAS representative of gay life back then. It was the 1960's, not the 2020's. At times, y'all are missing that this movie starts in 1963 and continues through 1983, not today. (And for those that don't know, Illinois was the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize queer sex - in 1962, one year before the start of this movie.) I've known several men who in the late 60's and early 70's repressed their true feelings (and actions), even to the point of marrying women and having kids, just as Ennis and Jake did, because the law labeled them criminals, society labeled them perverts, and churches told them they'd burn in Hell. As for where they fell on the spectrum: they were queer. Neither had a successful relationship with a woman, but their relationship with each other lasted 20 years and only ended with Jack's death. Oh, and spit works. Not a good as lube, but it still works.
Wow, what you said at 18:18 . I have never thought about like that, I just always assumed that Anne's character was lying and that's what really happened but it's really interesting because it could be his fear ... thank you for that perspective
I’ve only just seen this movie and I’m utterly heart broken, a forbidden love and a tragic story, and to know that there are so many people who had to hide their love and true selves is just utterly gut wrenching 💔
Always enjoy Josh's face when Alex is talking (e.g. 20:07 to 20:14) 😄 I kept having flashbacks to Father Ted and The Passion of St Tibulus: 'Careful now!', 'Down with this sort of thing!'.
I came out a year before this supposedly ended...and it's true...I saw cars swerve to try and hit gay people going into "the" bar...and later a burned body decapitated ( never found the head ) in the trunk of a car...it was like that - the fear was real
Wow, that’s really troubling. Thank you for sharing. Hopefully we’ve come a long way since then as a society, but you still see horrific examples from around the world :(
I saw this movie with my dad once….. mortifying to say the least 😅 I had just recently come out to my family and didn’t really know how everybody felt about it as nobody reassured me it was ok. Saw it again later when I met my bf at 16 years old and we will see it again soon after 18 years together. I will cry LoL 😆
I think what happens to jack in that clip is what really happened since there are plenty of euphemisms for killing a gay person, I wouldn't be surprised if that was one
I wish I could quit this film, but it's so devastating and never leaves you. Not all sad films have this emotional impact. The remake of Lolita was another one that destroyed me.
The fact that I was born just a month or so after this film was released is astounding😭 I usually feel old when my younger siblings don't even recall the same era of kidtoys as me but not I FEEL YOUNG, like a baby, little toddler strumbling round😭😂 love this movie to bits tho, glad to be born the same year as it
I love hearing your take on this movie. Knowing how a different generation with different experience sees it is really interesting. and Anne Hathaway's character? She knew.
I saw this in the theater with my now-husband and I remember how, like, the movie was a most sort of a barometer of how comfortable/accepting your friends and family were of the LGBTQ+ community. I don’t recall whether or not it was advertised as a queer story but everyone I talked to definitely knew. I also remember sobbing in the restroom after the film and being the only one (it was a single screen theater) and wondering how everyone but me was a Tin Man.
When I was watched this movie for the first time I felt sad, but also easy to related because that is the reality. Even now in the part world where I live in, in Asia, there are still struggles for lgbt people to have their right to live like other people do. Not all of them were ended happily either. A lot of them still lived in their shells and try to "blend in". This movie is very touching for me, becase I had a past life as a cowboy too. I lived somewhere in the northwest. I also had a boyfriend at that time (50s). I lived in the wooden house / shack not far from the lake and surrounded by forest and mountains. Blow my mind. LoL Thank you guys for reacted this movie. Appreciate it 👍 Love from Asia 💙
First off jake is best guy second this movie has so many nuances dealing with homophobia and toxic masculinity and toxic social constructs this it has me crying like a baby every time i think about it this film is iconic imo when it comes to the themes/cinematography/ acting everything i even noticed how the pacing for scenes with jack and ernnis were quick compared to the time dealing with their society which it perfectly encapsulated how fleeting their relationship was i can rant about this for hours so im gonna cut it here 😭
During the ‘60s and 70s where I grew up the word Queer definitely was a derogatory word. Having lived through that era I still find it difficulty using that word I suppose out of respect.
6:08 Regarding the spit scene, actually, one time in a park with LOTS of trees, I met an acquaintance who I knew was well-hung. It was kinda spontaneous, we had nothing, and he suggested we just use SPIT. I knew I was going to be skewered BIG, so I said "Hell, no". Hahaha.
"I think Steve would have an inclining at this point" hahahaha dead. I have always loved this movie I watched this in collage because I wanted to and then a few months later in my theatre writing class our final essay was compare and contrast the movie to the original story. also team Jake :)
heath (rip 💔) in interviews in response to this movie were so good and you could just tell that even though he was a straight man that he did understand how important this film was
it's a bit unsettling, this reaction! may be it was my mistake that I was looking for a more sensitive reaction? This is so much about the internalised homophobia and Shame the queer community is drenched in. It is also about the total destruction toxic masculinity and patriarchy brings. It is almost cruel to see that Jack is murdered in a hate crime just like his father had told him he would be or showed him when he was a young kid. Of Course the daughter reconciling with her father and the last scene with the shirt is heartbreaking. I would have loved to see reaction to these more than the stuff thats on the video here! and this is not in the past! While the communities in my country (India) are still struggling for equality, we are watching what is happening in the US with much heartbreak and sadness! These movies are reminders to humanity! what will happen if we go back in time rather than moving forward!
with those types of areas and how weird her explanation sounded while she said how he died, jack probably was killed, the movie is showing how bad the situation is for them, they either live a lie and miss their lives, or they live their lives how they want, but are surrounded by danger.
these guys seem young, but when BM came out, it was considered an ICONIC film among gay men, many who went to see it over and over again...one gay guy I knew said that from now on if anyone mentioned an actor or actress he didn't knew, he would simply ask "was he/she in brokeback mountain?" because that was his new point of reference....
If it wasn´t for ang lee sensible,wit and inspired direction chances are this movie could have bombed. it´s phylosofical rather than the "gay cowboy movie" many tagged the filme back the day...such a masterpiece.
HEATH 🤤😍🥺 Thanks for choosing Brokeback Mountain, guys! I simply love this film. It had a huge impact on me growing up, but I find it very hard to re-watch, because it is just leaving me incredibly sad every time. Also, I'm still devastated by Heath Ledger's death 💔 On a somewhat lighter note, I would love it if you could do a reaction video to MAURICE, starring Hugh Grant, James Wilby and Rupert Graves. That has been another one of my favourite films since my teenage years.
I'm late to the party as I just stumbled upon your channel today. Have you watched MY OWN PRIVATE IDAHO (1991) starring Keanu Reeves and River Phoenix? I saw it in the cinema when it first came out, and to be honest, I can't remember the plot or if it was any good or not...either way I still think it's well worth watching!
react to Holding The Man ♥️ released in 2015 its an Australian gay movie. met with wide acclaim.based on real life story of two lovers getting diagnosed with AIDS
The first time I watched it, I saw it as two men, who were gay, in a time (obviously not the only time) where it was EXTREMELY taboo. I've shown this film to people who were either "on the fence" or outright opposed it at the time, and they actually liked the movie ^_^ ♥ fantastic movie
I will say you need to read the original short story for the full impact of the story that was changed in the movie a bit at the end. It has a deeper feel to it.
I did love the movie I don't usually don't do tragedies someone had mentioned to me recently that Brokeback Mountain reminded him a lot of Roswell New Mexico. With the exception of that Roswell New Mexico ends well. The gay couple question gets together in the end. No real spoilers that because the CW you know how they're known for all their happy couples.. LOL. Basically they made Roswell New Mexico because they felt bad about the dean and cas thing..and anybody who watches Supernatural knows what I'm talking about. So they basically rebooted the Old Roswell show where the new spin in making one of the main relationships gay. Interesting and cool and about Cowboys and Aliens and has a much better ending than Brokeback Mountain but it does give me the feels and there's moments where it's very much like Brokeback Mountain. I can see the similarities. Also fun fact the guy that plays Alex and Roswell New Mexico is bisexual and played in Pretty Little Liar as Caleb. There is also a trans woman that plays on the show I think she plays the character Charlie Cameron she comes in much later. I mean I was catching it on Amazon but I don't know I think Netflix had it. Links to great malex moments Malex ( Michael/Alex) Alex Manes th-cam.com/video/N85nFgWfaDc/w-d-xo.html Michael Guerin th-cam.com/video/eUYBb6hEol0/w-d-xo.html Malex Stop me th-cam.com/video/kzOEtroDdtU/w-d-xo.html Home( malex ) th-cam.com/video/9WBEEvC-nn8/w-d-xo.html Through your eyes-my fave th-cam.com/video/o2iZZDbQ6co/w-d-xo.html Malex-The story- my fave th-cam.com/video/IpUXUYm49z0/w-d-xo.html Malex ( the song Alex wrote and sang to Michael).so sweet 😋 th-cam.com/video/8FDUGLGfpWM/w-d-xo.html Michael and his siblings th-cam.com/video/IH_a6Tf1nXs/w-d-xo.html Kyle and Max..Michael and Alex th-cam.com/video/W1N01P8X52U/w-d-xo.html Roswell nm..home..Malex snd cast th-cam.com/video/7kWblcZzBwY/w-d-xo.html Resting here with rnm th-cam.com/video/9U52uDlUeXM/w-d-xo.html
"spit does not do that" oh um, i can guarantee that it *does* (and i found it "not to my prefence"). although it's not quite so quick as the movie, i think we can assume it's a bit cleanly done for the movie.
I watched the stage show last weekend. I cried as much then as when I watched the film when it was first released. I didn't realise my sexuality until last year.
living in a conservative country, I almost had a panic attack and existential crisis while reading this book, I know there's a movie, but I've been consciously avoiding this movie because as they said, it was gay cowboys, but now.... having nothing to read, and reading it for the first time... It would had been better if I haven't read it, now I'm force to face this impending doom.
Ps. The whole "message to gays nowadays that with a look and two words they connect"... The movie was not about what gay relationships should be but what they WERE and still are in some places.
Well, it's actually the point of the scene in Mexico, imo, to illustrate that Jack isn't allowed to live his serious romance with Ennis in society but only can live "true to himself" in the shadows with someone he doesn't even have a deeper connection with because of his need to not be alone with his secret for once, free from his need to perform in a heteronormative society. This movie is not about gay representation, at least I don't think so, it's society critics neatly sewed in in one of the greatest tragic love stories I've ever seen.
When u guys discuss the whole being empathetic thing u miss to understand that soceity and context matter. It's easier to say and see what would be right IN CURRENT TIMES in the first world countries of the west but socio cultural context matters...
Doesn't represent now? Have you heard of Matthew Shepard who was beaten to death in the very state this is set in? Here's an experiment - go to a small city or town in Wyoming and just be your true self, you know - like in a way that no one can miss it... And let us know how that goes.
My dad watch this movie without knowing it was a gay relationship. He literally just realize in the exact moment they started being intimate. Then, he looked at me and ask if I had seen this movie before. That's how I came out 😎
Now thats a smart way of doing that
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Did he accept you?
No - omg not how I would choose my reveal - hey dad, this is me - now watch what my kind does- talk about awkward! 😂
i think anne hathaways character does know about Ennis, and i think she kind of loves him. she loves that he truly loves jack. i think she understands his pain. which is why she tells him about jacks wish to be buried at brokeback mountain. i also think she knew jack was gay for a while. the comment she makes about husbands never wanting to dance with their wives was kind of a nod to the fact that she knew and was not mad about it. also i think she knew he was killed, because i think she knew about jack and the new ranch hand on the side. shes the more understanding of the dichotomy of the two wives. she appreciated that jack was good to her anyway. a good husband, and father. its so sad. after watching this movie, everytime, i cry for the rest of the day. thank you for your review. i like watching you watching the movie. your insights were heartening.
some women dont need to be inlove, specifically. they just need a good man. and can appreciate a good man whether they are gay or straight. and a good heart. long relationships always lose that spark of newness, and turn into a partnership. they take so many forms. but ive known many women like anne hathaways character. i think michelle willams character felt emotionally neglected. which was a prime difference between the two characters.
Really interesting thoughts. Thank you for sharing. It certainly is important to consider everyones perspectives in LGBT stories, including those who don't necessarily identify as that. Thanks for the support! X
I think you’re wrong on everything you said. The movie is remarkably close to the short story, have you read it?
She is that woman who still supports her husband being gay because she is rich.
@@Sonar_125 then how come she is lying about Jack's Death to Ennis, when he was attacked by thoss bullies.
I still cry every time I see the movie.
Same
This is, even as a straight guy, the most heartbreaking film I've ever seen.
I watched it for the first time today and cried for 2 hours so.
Pretty sure everyone cried after watching it
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This movie literally represents now. Just because you live in a developed country doesn't mean that this same story is not happening in a third world country. It still happens today and I just wish someday the whole world could live like you guys in a place where you feel safe to say what you really like and be your true self.
I think everyone wants to se that future 💪🏼 We are incredibly privileged to life in the country that we do which was fought for by those that came before us. We try to remind ourselves of that fact and support those around the world who are less fortunate 🏳️🌈
This still happens in Wyoming. I live in Cody and trust me I can’t tell anyone I’m gay
That phone call with Jack's wife always gets me.
if i remember correctly in the book it mentions Ennis was traumatized as a kid by his father showing him a dead body of a man beat to death for being gay and that's why Ennis closed himself off from his true self.
The final scene of Ennis looking fondly at a picture of Brokeback Mountain and Jack's shirt is heartbreaking
anyways goddamn this movie is a masterpiece, its such a shame it was snubbed best picture over some terrible movie literally nobody can name without googling
meanwhile Brokeback Mountain will and has gone down as an instant classic
That’s in the movie too
Amen to that!! The snubbing is such a joke. This film is utterly timeless on all levels. I cannot remember the other films around this one.
This movie hit too close to home when I first saw it....I couldn't allow myself to cry...because I had lived it and moved past it....it was when I bought the DVD and watched it alone at home that I could allow myself to cry over this picture. I was born in 1957, and being gay in the country in Ohio wasn't an option for someone who wanted to be successful or accepted. I was married to a woman from 1977-1988...I told her when we got engaged that I had only had sex with boys in my teens...we did love each other...she was kind and loved me and understood my difficulty reconciling my attraction to men. As time went on, having sex with her became a chore....we dad a daughter (and now a granddaughter), so there are wonderful things that have come from the difficulties and confusions from living at that time...I asked for the divorce, she said I could screw who I wanted if I stayed with her....but I wanted to be in love with a person I was attracted to....she retaliated by outing me at work...and I was fired after over 10 yrs with the company. I had met my first boyfriend just before that and it doomed that relationship when I lost my job. (We reconciled as friends in 1993, as he was dying from AIDS as his then partner and family were fighting over his estate before he was even dead) ....again, it was a different, and very frightening, time. Being married to a woman probably saved my life...I went to funerals of friends and acquaintances at the pace of 2-3 per month from 1993- 1996.... All I ever wanted was to find a man to love and love me back....and this picture just hit too close to home, since my journey has not resulted in a husband (but several bfs along the way)... As America is sliding toward fascism, I fear that things we were sure were over for LGBT people in America, are now up for debate again....and the assault is coming for us. I hope a picture like this is a warning for today's queers not to assume that things can't go back to this and that we may once again have to deal with things like sodomy laws, loss of marriage rights, and public hate, ridicule, and violence. Sigh..... I thought we were past all this, but not in America....fascists need enemies to keep hold of power ....and after getting abortion rescinded in more than half the country, the queers will be next. Sigh.
Dear Sigh . I understand your frustration and pain however disagree with
Your current position. 2025 is not near fascism of previous decades.
Live your life and OWN it . The current issue has been nothing more than
telling people to make believe facts aren’t facts.
It's funny that you should mention the question of when people started realizing they're going to get together. I went with friends to see it in theaters and one strict Christian member didn't realize until the actual deed was happening and gasped out, "They don't turn gay, do that?!" I turned to my friend and asked why she didn't warn her, and it turned out she did, the girl thought she was being sarcastic. She ended up staying throughout it through and cried at the end, so, I think it was something.
Haha what a great story! So glad they stayed :)
I watched this movie a few weeks ago and wow, that movie hurts so much. Even after all this time, I'm still thinking about this movie. R.i.p Heath Ledger
I got like reallyyyyy excited when I saw this notification! 💜 you guys. Brokeback is a masterpiece. I had to drive 75 miles away from my home to see it at the time. It wasn’t until it became nominated for so many Oscars that it played near me.
Edit: I am so emotional and a total bottom so I’d have to be Jake even though I’ve always lived my authentic self.
Loved reading this comment so much! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and personal experience. We love hearing other peoples perspective and think it's so important! Especially in the context of a film like Brokeback Mountain. Peace and love x
"At what point would Steve, the straight guy who saw it with his wife, catch on?"
Well, I don't know. But I can tell you that Mike the straight guy saw it with his girlfriend, and they had the best sex they ever had after the film.
It's definitely a gay story, but it's also a passion story. An intense one.
Haha well Mike is a great guy :)
Amazing analysis ❤ (Fun fact: heath almost broke jake's nose in this scene 12:44)
I don’t know how to recover from this film. I’m so devastated
I think the first sexual scene is also not romantic because Ennis doesn't want this but he needs it. He knows he has feelings but can't deal with that.
I don't think is selfish, Ennis really felt he didn't have another choice, Jack tried. I do get the anger from Alma but I still think is was a very different time.
The part with the turkey xD I just realized it this time the liquid around the meat xD
The speech from Jack about the loneliness kills me everytime and the ending with the shirt it always makes me wanna crawl in a ball and cry for days.
Well, I actually like how both Jack and Ennis are not portrayed as inherently morally good all the time. It also shows the real hurt they put on their wives by their relationship, and these actions are not excused, however, through the narrative, the movie ultimately roots this hurt back to the oppressive society who makes it unable for Jack and Ennis to live authentically to their true self and thus illustrating how oppression hurts everyone eventually, or at least more people than just those of the minorized groups.
I’m a lesbian woman and enjoyed your reaction greatly. I truly love this film and always have. It’s one of the most heartbreaking, beautiful and tragic love stories ever made. And as ridiculous, irritating and hard to believe as it may be, when it came out in 2005 it was not only the first of its kind, it was considered controversial and shocking. 2005 was also a time period when making a film with these characters and this subject matter was still considered exceptionally brave and risky for actors to do. Also, Despite the fact that it contains only one scene of intimacy, and that scene shows next to nothing in terms of skin, the uproar at the time was epic. And it was RIDICULOUS. All that aside, here is a little bit of info on a couple of things you wondered about or mentioned while watching the film:
*While the film does not explicitly make it clear how Jack died, in the short story the film was adapted by, it’s clear that Jack did die the way Ennis was picturing it while speaking to Lureen on the phone.
*In the short story, Ennis confirms for himself how Jack died when he visits Jack’s parents. During Ennis’s visit to Jack’s parent’s farm as depicted in the film and discussed in the short story, Jack’s father mentions Jack had been talking about bringing a different rancher from a nearby neighboring ranch, who was leaving his wife, to build a cabin and live together on the family farm and rebuild it. It’s at this moment in the short story that Ennis confirms in thought how Jack actually died.
*It’s also not explicitly stated in the film, but if you recall, there was a scene where Jack and a man, a man who’d just moved to town with his wife, were seated on a bench outside a resturant where he and both their wives had just had dinner. And the man, who’d been eyeing Jack w/ inviting, lustful eyes the entire time through dinner, said he should come to his boss’s cabin with him sometime and “go fishing”, which was clearly code; to which Jack looks at him clearly understanding, yet before he can speak, the wives come out. It’s implied in the story that this is the ranch neighbor that is leaving his wife to take up with Jack and live out their years together. In the short story, it’s also told that at the time of his death Jack and Lureen were in the process divorcing, AND THAT SHE DID KNOW ABOUT JACK, which is not mentioned at all in the film. Apparently, Jack had tried that one last time to be with Ennis (it’s the last time they see each other and get in that fight when Ennis says he can’t see him again until November and Jack also tells Ennis he’s going up to see his parents), however he’d finally given up and decided he was going to be with that other man and they were both leaving their wives. Which is also implied as what leads to his murder. Either someone saw the two of them together and it was apparent, they’d been caught in the act, or his wife who he was leaving had become suspicious and spread the word. Whatever the case may be, Jack did die the way it flashed back too during the phone call scene.
* Just some historical info for clarity: You mention that you believe that the Q word was being used in a derogatory manner when Ennis says it to Jack. Yet we must remember the year was 1963. In the 60’s the Q word was not necessarily the derogatory term that it came to be in the 80’s; but simply the term that was used to mean gay, as gay was not even yet used. The F word and the terms “Mary”, “Fruit” etc. were actually the derogatory terms in the 60’s.
Hope some of this was useful. Looking forward to watching more of your channel. Take care 👍
Hello I am writing a queer historical novel and have done A Lot of research on the history of gay linguistics. "Gay" has been used to refer to queer people since the mid-late 1920s, but started (outside its original meaning) as a derogatory word straight people decided to call non-straights, and for a long time was restricted in spread mainly to metropolitan areas. "Queer" has been used by-queers-for-queers since at least 1906 - it appears in a queer man's memoir published that year - but certainly for years before then (as language generally comes into common use around a decade before its first appearance in widespread published work). Before then, terms like "Uranian" (modern: gay) and "Dionian" (modern: straight) had been in use in some places, and "homosexualism" or "homosexuality" had cropped up from time to time, but not yet "homosexual" (that, too, would come in the late 20s-early 30s). In America, "Queer" started getting pushed out in favour of "gay" in the late 60s-early 70s, around the same time the term "gold-star lesbian" started cropping up and "bisexual" was coined by said "gold-stars" to describe self-identified lesbians who had ever had sex with a man or a trans woman (modern usage of bisexual would come soon after) - its use as a derogatory term had nothing to do with it, as "gay" has also always been used as a derogatory term. Second-wave feminist lesbians just wanted to exist distinctly from gay men, and so eschewed "queer" as a catch-all term in favour of "gay and lesbian" (though "gay" has since become a catch-all in turn). Both "queer" and "gay" have gone through several reclamation periods throughout different countries, and "lesbian" is currently undergoing an intra-community reclamation period to return to the broader term it originally was. I hope you find this all as interesting as I have throughout my research!
@@titaniumvulpes I’m from Scotland and England. Perhaps it differs in country and region as gay quite literally means happy here, as well as being periodically used to mean same sex attracted (although the term homosexual is used much more), and queer has never been a derogatory term for gay people in my regions. It’s always meant odd or just gay, but not in a derogatory way. Derogatory terms from last century were “Mary”, “fruit”, “twinkle toes” etc. Perhaps in your research of your particular region that is not so. 🤷♀️
Just saw this film again a few months ago and it still got me. It always hits me how despite how many years have passed since the 60’s there are men who can’t be their true selves because of society/religion/etc. With political parties like the extreme right on the rise, it makes you wonder if we’ll ever truly live in a society where people and families don’t have be broken by homophobia.
Oh, I think you are not being realistic at all. Gays in the US have virtually the same rights as anybody else now. Some religions don't participate in same sex marriage, but that is their right in a land of freedom of belief; just as we have the freedom to disagree. There will never come a time when homosexuality will be 100% accepted. When is *anything* 100% accepted?! But compared to only a few years ago, it's like a paradise of tolerance and freedom. You might consider being a little more grateful and optimistic.
@@rogerwhite95 I think you should educate yourself on the number of people that still get bashed and the number of trans people being killed all over the world. There are many countries that still criminalize lgbtq and deny us rights. What a narrow view you must have. Next time wake up and check your fucking privilege before you tell someone to be “grateful”.
First of all, the extreme right isn't a political party. Secondly you've already got what you wanted but you'll never be happy and nothing will ever be enough. Being gay isn't illegal now and hasn't been for some time. The problem you're having is that you want to force conservative Christians, Muslims and Jews to change their entire world view. Sorry but you don't get to infringe on their freedoms just because you don't like it. It was wrong when they did it to you and it's wrong when you do it to them. If everyone kept out of each others business there'd be a lot less problems...
14:55 I also think that this way of storytelling represents love in a more accurate way since it always starts out with these rose-tinted glasses you have on. You love a person and you want to be with them forever and you don’t care about what else is there to life. It’s only later when you have to start balancing your life and your surroundings with your relationship. That’s when many relationships end because you figure out that it all actually doesn’t work. It’s almost tragic because you can’t remain in your own world forever. You can’t spend your whole life on Brokeback. At some point you have to get back to your life, and that’s when it gets difficult.
This observation is so spot on!
Point of information, re: "Spit doesn't do that." In the short story, there is a mention of saddle grease, or something equally lubricating and cowboy-related, being available and used in the tent "encounter."
Thank you for the information, I have been wondering about this. I also saw a theory that Jack seems more experienced so maybe he had been doing some prep work beforehand.
The film is subtle in its portrays, it is left to us to analyse what we see. When Ennis listens from Jack that they are finishing work a month early, he doesn’t quite admit he is frustrated, he never openly expresses his feelings. To say goodbye with a punch in a face is a good way to represent how these guys where brought up as “ manly man” in western American society. Violence is how you react to repression, talking is always difficult. The trauma these guys take from childhood is also mentioned rapidly, we are the ones that have to associate that reality with their personalities and reactions, especially when it comes to Ennis, who has difficulty in developing relations, as we see with his daughter, for example. There are a lot of symbols.
9:26 is the exact moment Heath Ledger realizes he forgot to say "no homo" (all jokes aside, it's a gorgeous film)
When Enis found that bloody shirt in Jack's closet, I lost it. I cried my eyes out.
Gets my tears flowing too. Also, in the last scene where Jack's jacket is all Ennis has left of Jack.
He found BOTH their bloody shirts on the same hanger.
@@Tunick1902Ennis' under Jack's and in Ennis' closet, it's Jack's under Ennis'... Heartbreaking
You know what strikes me about those two cowboys. They say if we're discovered we're dead. And yet, shortly after the very first they make out with one another they get caught in the act by their employer. And again, at the very moment, they share their very first kiss, Ennis's wife sees them. They are either so increadibly unlucky or so piss poor at concealing their relationship it is bordering on parody!
You’re not wrong 😋
I think it’s just the fear of it happening more than it being deffinently something that’ll happen
The movie is so heartbreaking and the soundtrack helps a lot, amazing!
I loved your video, guys. xoxo
1:30 - The first time I saw the trailer in theaters, it WAS advertised as queer! I was so shocked when I first saw it! And believe me when I tell you that news of the "gay cowboy movie" spread like WILDFIRE lol it was such an unreal moment in time, especially since Passion of the Christ had only come out one year before.
Just rewatched after years and the tears are still coming🥲 I just wanted them to be happy
I saw this movie at the cinema with my mum back in 2005. She was the person I could share all things artsy with and we would have endless conversations about the concerts, movies, operas, ballets, plays etc we'd seen. After we watched this one we went out for dinner and just sat in silence for the first 15 minutes, drinking our Pinot Grigio, sobbing and being generally overwhelmed. Eventually got to chatting again, talking about nothing and everything. We had a really lovely time, it was one of those nights when everything felt raw, vivid and rather sincere. Mum passed away five years ago - I rewatch this movie once or twice every year and it feels like spending quality time with her, like she's a little bit closer again.
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I’m so sorry for you loss, may your lovely mother Rest In Peace 🙏
@@edennolani8171 thank you ❤️
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@@John.Harper thank you ❤️ hugs to you as well
Your comments about happiness being a spectrum really resonated with me. It took me a long, long time to decide if I was a lesbian or not, because a lot of discussions about gay vs straight identity acted as if being gay means being absolutely disgusted by the thought of being in a straight relationship, or being truly made miserable by it. But for me, whether it be because I'd spent so long getting used to the idea, or because so many men were beloved friends of mine, the idea of being in a relationship with a man did not disgust me, or make me feel sad. It really would be fine. I could be reasonably happy like that. But it does not *thrill* me, doesn't excite or entice or lure me the way the love of a woman does. Does it make me less gay, knowing that a "straight" relationship would still feel acceptable, even if not pure happiness? I do not believe so, but others might. It was such a casual conversation between you, but I've never had these thoughts validated before.
Great review of a raw passionate love story and emotional journey of the acceptance of their life situations! They both had incredible charisma, RIP Heath.
The best thing about this movie is it is so well done that you leave knowing you have seen an astounding love story. The fact that it was 2 men doesn't even register.
I went to see this at the Odeon in Chester right at the end of its cinema screening period and so it was in the tiniest room of the theatre, I would have been about 13 then and I’d dragged my mother along, must have been a Sunday afternoon. My abiding memory, aside from the beautiful film, is my mum nodding off two mins in and waking up with a shriek in the middle of the tent scene
Amazing 😂
Stumbled across this just searching for movie reaction vids, but stayed bc I really enjoyed your commentary.
Also, your Toy Story hat is adorable😂
Faces at 5:55 had me crying laughing. "That scene would still get a lot of people," including us. XD
Looking for movie reactions I came across your channel. I IMMEDIATELY subscribed. I drove 300 miles to see this when it came out. Asked my straight friend in that town if he wanted to see it. He declined. A few months later when he had a girlfriend, she talked him into renting it while I was again visiting him. He liked it and even took out his guitar and from ear played some of the music. Remained friends until he passed.
I love the comments you guys give! So entertaining and so in depth!
It’s confirmed in the book this film is based on that Jack was beaten to death, very sad 😞, love this film beautiful and sad film
My husband is straight and he totally would have read the same thing into the can of beans exploding. He points that kind of stuff out to me all the time because I'm very literal-minded.
This movie means a lot to me because it’s what got me to become a passionate ally to the LGBTQ+ community. I had never been so angry seeing someone killed just for trying to be their authentic self.
It remains my favorite LGBTQ+ movie of all time.
I really love this movie but have never rewatched it. I tried once, but stopped once they got off that mountain for the first time.
The music especially... Wow. Gustavo Santaolalla is a talented, gifted mf (also worked on my favorite games of all time, The Last of Us).
I really appreciated this video. As a young guy who's figuring out my bisexuality, and is mostly closeted, this video was really nice. Like having a good talk with some friends. It just made me feel okay for a short while. So thanks for that.
Also, I'm definitely a Jake lol
just stumbled upon this channel cause i was curious if there were any positive vids on brokeback mountain now and there are which just makes me so insanely happy. ill always love this movie. i remember seeing it as a young southern gay and it was life changing. still one of if not my favorite movie of all time.
it was what i believe the start of me unlearning a lot of internalized homophobia. it brought to the screen something i could relate to. the fear of having to hide. the fear of my family rejecting me. of never having a lover in the first place. of being murdered. AND ALL THAT WAS AS A CHILD. like its insane the amount this movie captures. i could have been like them.
im happily married now (thats its legal which is still hard to wrap my mind around sometimes lol) but it impacted me so profoundly its hard to put into words. i also simply cannot trust people who make fun of this movie. its one of the WORST first impressions someone can give off for me if im honest cause i just know they missed the point if they even finished the movie.
also the buy in point you make i believe was very much intentional. i think it was to draw in people with a love story, which it is. then to point out why that love cannot happen, which i assume many people also found themselves being like "oh" cause they just saw this love as valid but then slapped in the face by views that they could possibly share that prevent this kind of love from flourishing.
this was such a lovely vid and totally new sub. 💖✨ tragically beautiful film. an absolute classic. thank you so much for doing it justice.
oh also i cant pick between the guys i love them both 😂 #greedybottom?
to anyone that stumbles across this comment and isnt out, i just want to take a moment to say thats fine. take your time. coming out is mostly for yourself, when you are ready. cause gonna be honest, you come out MANY times in life. when you meet new people, when you move, start a new job, etc. youll almost always be "coming out" its not just this one and done thing, so do it at your own pace when you are ready. there is no shame or guilt in it. there is plenty of time to be proud and plenty to be proud of even now. please do not give up.
You young men have the luxury of not being alive in the 70’s and 80’s. If you were flamboyant and openly gay, doors were closed to you. If you were a man of power and earning potential and you were found out about, it ruined your life. Men got married because bachelor men didn’t advance, you actually have to prove you’re settled with a wife, home and child(ren) in order to advance in prestige and earning potential. The only jobs for gay men to advance in were books/video stores, gay bars and toy shipment companies with advertisements in gay magazines. Else you were a bartender, cook, waiter or shoe salesman. In the 80’s it was “the gay cancer” that horrified all gay men. I was a graduating teen at that time and scared to even sleep with a man even though I had been sexually active since I was 14.
You younger generations have it so much better now and it’s hard not to be jealous for now I’m almost 60 and gays are the most prejudiced of all when it comes to age. It’s STILL not a good time to be gay. If you’re old.
Guys...it WAS representative of gay life back then. It was the 1960's, not the 2020's. At times, y'all are missing that this movie starts in 1963 and continues through 1983, not today. (And for those that don't know, Illinois was the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize queer sex - in 1962, one year before the start of this movie.) I've known several men who in the late 60's and early 70's repressed their true feelings (and actions), even to the point of marrying women and having kids, just as Ennis and Jake did, because the law labeled them criminals, society labeled them perverts, and churches told them they'd burn in Hell. As for where they fell on the spectrum: they were queer. Neither had a successful relationship with a woman, but their relationship with each other lasted 20 years and only ended with Jack's death.
Oh, and spit works. Not a good as lube, but it still works.
I prefer spit LOL 😂
Wow, what you said at 18:18 . I have never thought about like that, I just always assumed that Anne's character was lying and that's what really happened but it's really interesting because it could be his fear ... thank you for that perspective
I’ve only just seen this movie and I’m utterly heart broken, a forbidden love and a tragic story, and to know that there are so many people who had to hide their love and true selves is just utterly gut wrenching 💔
Always enjoy Josh's face when Alex is talking (e.g. 20:07 to 20:14) 😄
I kept having flashbacks to Father Ted and The Passion of St Tibulus: 'Careful now!', 'Down with this sort of thing!'.
In 1963 a popular American lube was called Cornhusker’s lotion. For real.
I came out a year before this supposedly ended...and it's true...I saw cars swerve to try and hit gay people going into "the" bar...and later a burned body decapitated ( never found the head ) in the trunk of a car...it was like that - the fear was real
Wow, that’s really troubling. Thank you for sharing. Hopefully we’ve come a long way since then as a society, but you still see horrific examples from around the world :(
After seeing it twice you fall so in love with this movie. It is a tear jerker
Fell in love the first time!😚😚😚🥰🥰🥰🥰
I saw this movie with my dad once….. mortifying to say the least 😅
I had just recently come out to my family and didn’t really know how everybody felt about it as nobody reassured me it was ok.
Saw it again later when I met my bf at 16 years old and we will see it again soon after 18 years together.
I will cry LoL 😆
I think what happens to jack in that clip is what really happened since there are plenty of euphemisms for killing a gay person, I wouldn't be surprised if that was one
I wish I could quit this film, but it's so devastating and never leaves you. Not all sad films have this emotional impact. The remake of Lolita was another one that destroyed me.
The fact that I was born just a month or so after this film was released is astounding😭 I usually feel old when my younger siblings don't even recall the same era of kidtoys as me but not I FEEL YOUNG, like a baby, little toddler strumbling round😭😂 love this movie to bits tho, glad to be born the same year as it
I love hearing your take on this movie. Knowing how a different generation with different experience sees it is really interesting. and Anne Hathaway's character? She knew.
a gay western love story who doesn’t love that and heath ledger deserved winning an Oscar
I saw this in the theater with my now-husband and I remember how, like, the movie was a most sort of a barometer of how comfortable/accepting your friends and family were of the LGBTQ+ community. I don’t recall whether or not it was advertised as a queer story but everyone I talked to definitely knew. I also remember sobbing in the restroom after the film and being the only one (it was a single screen theater) and wondering how everyone but me was a Tin Man.
When I was watched this movie for the first time I felt sad, but also easy to related because that is the reality. Even now in the part world where I live in, in Asia, there are still struggles for lgbt people to have their right to live like other people do. Not all of them were ended happily either. A lot of them still lived in their shells and try to "blend in". This movie is very touching for me, becase I had a past life as a cowboy too. I lived somewhere in the northwest. I also had a boyfriend at that time (50s). I lived in the wooden house / shack not far from the lake and surrounded by forest and mountains. Blow my mind. LoL
Thank you guys for reacted this movie. Appreciate it 👍
Love from Asia 💙
First off jake is best guy second this movie has so many nuances dealing with homophobia and toxic masculinity and toxic social constructs this it has me crying like a baby every time i think about it this film is iconic imo when it comes to the themes/cinematography/ acting everything i even noticed how the pacing for scenes with jack and ernnis were quick compared to the time dealing with their society which it perfectly encapsulated how fleeting their relationship was i can rant about this for hours so im gonna cut it here 😭
Saw this film in 2006 to celebrate my 50th bday - could not think about anything else for several days afterwards.
During the ‘60s and 70s where I grew up the word Queer definitely was a derogatory word. Having lived through that era I still find it difficulty using that word I suppose out of respect.
I strongly believe this channel will thrive :)
This wasn't shown at my local cinema in Ireland because of "christians" threatening to protest, it was when I'd just come out and I was so annoyed!
6:08 Regarding the spit scene, actually, one time in a park with LOTS of trees, I met an acquaintance who I knew was well-hung. It was kinda spontaneous, we had nothing, and he suggested we just use SPIT. I knew I was going to be skewered BIG, so I said "Hell, no". Hahaha.
Hahaha ICONIC
"I think Steve would have an inclining at this point" hahahaha dead. I have always loved this movie I watched this in collage because I wanted to and then a few months later in my theatre writing class our final essay was compare and contrast the movie to the original story. also team Jake :)
It was known as the gay cowboy movie, so it was never a sneaky film. It generated so much publicity at the time that everyone knew about it.
“Cowpeople” lol 😂
Me and my fellow non-binaries will be seeing you in the labyrinth of Crete
Love wins. Thanks for sharing this
Thanks for your support! X
heath (rip 💔) in interviews in response to this movie were so good and you could just tell that even though he was a straight man that he did understand how important this film was
I was like 10 yo when my mom told me to to watch this movie. "I think you'll like it", she said.
it's a bit unsettling, this reaction! may be it was my mistake that I was looking for a more sensitive reaction? This is so much about the internalised homophobia and Shame the queer community is drenched in. It is also about the total destruction toxic masculinity and patriarchy brings. It is almost cruel to see that Jack is murdered in a hate crime just like his father had told him he would be or showed him when he was a young kid. Of Course the daughter reconciling with her father and the last scene with the shirt is heartbreaking. I would have loved to see reaction to these more than the stuff thats on the video here!
and this is not in the past! While the communities in my country (India) are still struggling for equality, we are watching what is happening in the US with much heartbreak and sadness! These movies are reminders to humanity! what will happen if we go back in time rather than moving forward!
with those types of areas and how weird her explanation sounded while she said how he died, jack probably was killed, the movie is showing how bad the situation is for them, they either live a lie and miss their lives, or they live their lives how they want, but are surrounded by danger.
Get Real is another one worth watching.
these guys seem young, but when BM came out, it was considered an ICONIC film among gay men, many who went to see it over and over again...one gay guy I knew said that from now on if anyone mentioned an actor or actress he didn't knew, he would simply ask "was he/she in brokeback mountain?" because that was his new point of reference....
If it wasn´t for ang lee sensible,wit and inspired direction chances are this movie could have bombed. it´s phylosofical rather than the "gay cowboy movie" many tagged the filme back the day...such a masterpiece.
HEATH 🤤😍🥺 Thanks for choosing Brokeback Mountain, guys! I simply love this film. It had a huge impact on me growing up, but I find it very hard to re-watch, because it is just leaving me incredibly sad every time. Also, I'm still devastated by Heath Ledger's death 💔
On a somewhat lighter note, I would love it if you could do a reaction video to MAURICE, starring Hugh Grant, James Wilby and Rupert Graves. That has been another one of my favourite films since my teenage years.
I'm late to the party as I just stumbled upon your channel today. Have you watched MY OWN PRIVATE IDAHO (1991) starring Keanu Reeves and River Phoenix? I saw it in the cinema when it first came out, and to be honest, I can't remember the plot or if it was any good or not...either way I still think it's well worth watching!
Lol as a gay guy myself lol I totally agree with the boys .. it was so unprepared lol
I wasn’t prepared for this movie, i cried a lot, what a masterpiece!
react to Holding The Man ♥️
released in 2015 its an Australian gay movie. met with wide acclaim.based on real life story of two lovers getting diagnosed with AIDS
Spit: So true. That was the most unbelievable part of the movie. Had to suspend my disbelief there.
The first time I watched it, I saw it as two men, who were gay, in a time (obviously not the only time) where it was EXTREMELY taboo. I've shown this film to people who were either "on the fence" or outright opposed it at the time, and they actually liked the movie ^_^ ♥ fantastic movie
Def a Heath here. Thanks for the review guys.
Ok, you boys knowing your pre-Stonewall queer American history! Props!!!
Will you be planning to review a 1996 british film called Beautiful Thing.
On the list!!
From 1967 to around 1982, they met at least once year, not just once in a while. Read the eponymous short story, which is much better than the movie.
5:47 took me out. I am LOVING this reaction so far
I will say you need to read the original short story for the full impact of the story that was changed in the movie a bit at the end. It has a deeper feel to it.
I did love the movie I don't usually don't do tragedies someone had mentioned to me recently that Brokeback Mountain reminded him a lot of Roswell New Mexico. With the exception of that Roswell New Mexico ends well. The gay couple question gets together in the end. No real spoilers that because the CW you know how they're known for all their happy couples.. LOL. Basically they made Roswell New Mexico because they felt bad about the dean and cas thing..and anybody who watches Supernatural knows what I'm talking about.
So they basically rebooted the Old Roswell show where the new spin in making one of the main relationships gay. Interesting and cool and about Cowboys and Aliens and has a much better ending than Brokeback Mountain but it does give me the feels and there's moments where it's very much like Brokeback Mountain. I can see the similarities.
Also fun fact the guy that plays Alex and Roswell New Mexico is bisexual and played in Pretty Little Liar as Caleb. There is also a trans woman that plays on the show I think she plays the character Charlie Cameron she comes in much later. I mean I was catching it on Amazon but I don't know I think Netflix had it.
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Michael and his siblings
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"spit does not do that"
oh um, i can guarantee that it *does* (and i found it "not to my prefence").
although it's not quite so quick as the movie, i think we can assume it's a bit cleanly done for the movie.
people will forgive honesty.... man that really struck a nerve
Whoops 😅 hope you’re doing okay 😘xo
I watched the stage show last weekend. I cried as much then as when I watched the film when it was first released. I didn't realise my sexuality until last year.
I honestly don’t think anyone can still be homophobic after watching this film.
living in a conservative country, I almost had a panic attack and existential crisis while reading this book, I know there's a movie, but I've been consciously avoiding this movie because as they said, it was gay cowboys, but now.... having nothing to read, and reading it for the first time... It would had been better if I haven't read it, now I'm force to face this impending doom.
Ps. The whole "message to gays nowadays that with a look and two words they connect"... The movie was not about what gay relationships should be but what they WERE and still are in some places.
Did you just call it Bareback Mountain😂😂😂 ?
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loved brokeback mountain. jake and heath had great chemistry!
Well, it's actually the point of the scene in Mexico, imo, to illustrate that Jack isn't allowed to live his serious romance with Ennis in society but only can live "true to himself" in the shadows with someone he doesn't even have a deeper connection with because of his need to not be alone with his secret for once, free from his need to perform in a heteronormative society. This movie is not about gay representation, at least I don't think so, it's society critics neatly sewed in in one of the greatest tragic love stories I've ever seen.
When u guys discuss the whole being empathetic thing u miss to understand that soceity and context matter. It's easier to say and see what would be right IN CURRENT TIMES in the first world countries of the west but socio cultural context matters...
Watch Holding The Man on Netflix. You WILL cry.
Doesn't represent now? Have you heard of Matthew Shepard who was beaten to death in the very state this is set in? Here's an experiment - go to a small city or town in Wyoming and just be your true self, you know - like in a way that no one can miss it... And let us know how that goes.
That is true. I think it really depends on the location or geography. Sometimes not being yourself is safer sadly.
God, I just love that Woodie hat!!! Lol
Guy on the left had my emotions like 😁🙂🤨😒☹️😬😐😪🙄