Experts slugfest: 2024 Oscars recap -- 'Oppenheimer,' 'Poor Things' and BAFTA win big
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- Gold Derby editors and Experts Christopher Rosen and Joyce Eng break down the Oscar winners, losers and Ryan Gosling's epic performance on Sunday's 96th Academy Awards. "Oppenheimer" led with seven wins, followed by "Poor Things" with four, including Emma Stone's second Best Actress prize. How did she beat SAG champ Lily Gladstone? It definitely helps that BAFTA came back with a vengeance after going 0/8 above the line last year.
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Timestamps:
Intro and ceremony thoughts (0:00
Best Picture (21:14)
Best Director (27:26)
Best Actress (30:14)
Best Actor (45:31)
Best Supporting Actress (55:01)
Best Supporting Actor (56:43)
Screenplay categories (58:08)
Other categories (59:33)
Listener questions (1:07:50)
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BAFTA ate that up!
people calling them irrelevant after one year when they had the same picks as Oscars 8/8 just in 2020 was wild. the short term memory on some people. These things fluctuate from year to year
"We love the gloaters"..... another great Joyce quote.
“Sometimes, the obvious answer is also the right one.” - well said and that is why Oppenheimer, Nolan, Murphy & Downey won.
I'm so glad Cillian Murphy can return to Ireland and a sense of normality. What a champ for enduring the awards circuit the last few months. Let him eat cheese in peace and quiet. He's earned it.
It was recently announced that he'll be a part of the Versace campaign, so he'll be busy but hopefully he gets some 😴
I know you had warned us how awful the twitter discourse would be if Emma won but damn it's even worse than i imagined, I wish I could see the same that that everyone who thinks Lily's Performance is the second coming of Christ saw, she was great but so was Emma and yet some people act like it was a Razzie deserving performance
14:22 Thank you Chris for referring to Al Pacino's performance in the Adam Sandler movie Jack and Jill as "Dunkachino." That made me laugh so hard I still can't stop. 😂😂
If there's a better way to spend the Monday afternoon after the late night of Oscar Sunday (it's late for me, I live in Edinburgh) than listening to the two of you talk with unbridled passion and joy about film and the Oscars, then I don't know what it is. Thank you both for what you do. Thank you both for striking a balance between taking awards season seriously without letting it become capital "S" serious. The chemistry you have should be bottled.
I had a great time last night - and it wasn't just because of my film-paired-cocktails, although they helped. I thought this was a great Oscar show. Quibbles, sure, we always have quibbles. But the show was slick, the songs were great and - most importantly - the winners were astute. It seemed that the Academy "collectively" paid attention this year and, in my opinion, every coin-flip came down on the right side. The Boy and the Heron. Godzilla Minus One. The Zone of Interest's sound (I'm thinking of adding a new subjective rule to my Oscar prediction rulebook - if something's in the top 2 and feels undeniable and unique, predict it: see Anthony Hopkins).
And Emma Stone. Killers of the Flower Moon was my film of the year but what Emma Stone did was unlike anything I've ever seen on screen and, as not a fan of Barbie, I love that this year goes down with a Best Actress winner whose character opened up a deep, sometimes troubling, exploration of female subjectivity in a context of patriarchy. Sorry, this is a bit much for a comment I know but it made me happy - beyond happy.
Thank you both. And roll on the next season.
Thanks for listening and watching!
So overjoyed with Emma’s win
What I learned from this year’s Oscars:
1. The new Globes do have influence. ZOI, AOAF, TBATH and PT got their starts here.
2.Push the film not any particular performance. KOTFM was doing better when it was about the whole film not just Lily’s performance.
3. Passion is important. In VFX they have to care about your movie to want to reward it.
4. Barbie’s “fans” complaining about Gerwig not being nominated really hurt the film overall.
recency bias is what it is, been watching for twenty years and this was the best produced broadcast i can remember. speak your truth christopher
“I’m Just Ken” was always the better song 👍
Maybe the Academy could best assess the nominated songs by WATCHING THE MOVIES THEY ARE IN.
Wow! Glad you uploaded so quickly. ❤️
We are definitely starting to see the influence of the international branch voting in the academy.
Starting? It started with Parasite. It will depend on wether they bother to show up in numbers to vote like they did those years or not care much like last year
Billie Eilish, Emma Stone, and Zone of Interest winning are signs that pure art won over PR and online betting. Congrats though, you two have the perfect faces for gambler's ruin.
Weird comment. Thanks?
Billie winning again this year only highlights how much they DID NOT deserve to win for James Bond.
I’m Just Ken. The greatest moment (recently). I can’t end my 2024 awards season without mentioning the greatest moment was the 2017 performance of Justin Timberlake’s “Can’t Stop the Feeling” which opened the Oscar’s!! ❤
Great season for both of you!!
Only 2 that I was really interested in were Stone and Zone for Sound. I'm so thrilled about that. Substance over story.
Interesting point about the looks of Cillian Murphy vs. Paul Giamatti. PG is a great actor, and Sideways is Payne's masterpiece IMO, but I could never accept Virginia Madsen's character falling for PG's, and I saw Sideways seven times in theaters in 2004. I loved the movie, but no way that's gonna happen. PG's character was a schlub, physically, and a depressed downer. The only thing the two had in common was wine, and that wasn't enough for me to buy it. --Great movie, though.
I dont think Billie deserved the win for the Bond song which seems to be the academys model to give it to a mediocre Bond song.
Dance the Night & Im just Ken.... I probably would've given it to either of those songs
Gonna miss you 2!!
My personal takeaways:
The Oscars were a near copy paste of the BAFTAs. They got 8/8 ATL and also near full match BTL besides VFX and the shorts. I couldn't brush off the feeling of "Deja Vu" when Boy and the Heron won, then Poor Things went on to win Makeup, Production Design and Costumes. It was no longer a surprise to me when Zone won sound and ended with Michelle calling Emma's name.
Also people in the future should pay more attention when it is announced from the start that International voters showed up in record numbers to vote. Just like an election, you can guess the winner early by the early breakdown of demographics of voters from exit polls.
I expect narratives to have less and less weight outside of SAG if the trend continues.
@jojodeed81 the president of the Academy before the nominations were revealed on January 23rd
It's been a deep deep year for excellent movies. I just saw All of us strangers and wonder how many nominations if could have gotten if it was a less competitive year.
A year ago in March when Chris and Joyce did early 2023 Emmy predictions they read my email predicting Cillian Murphy, Robert Downey, Jr. and Emily Blunt for Oscar nominations and they doubted it because past Nolan films haven't gotten acting noms. I knew it would when I saw the trailer because biopics usually do. So glad I called it a year ago and proved them wrong! Cillian and RDJ deserved. YAY!! 👉
You really gonna post this in every Gold Derby comment section? Get a life
@@agwooding1 Hey, I'm using all my bragging rights for pointing out the obvious, if you've got a problem with that. Go wine, complain and screw yourself.
@@agwooding1 Nope just using my bragging rights one last time for pointing out the obvious. If you've got a problem with it go wine and complain about it somewhere else.
@@MovieandTVexpert1 We've all got predictions we could brag about, most people don't hang on to them for a year just to say I told you so. But you do you. Any predictions for next year?
@@agwooding1 Well obviously Dune will be nominated, other potential awards movies this year are slim at the moment but one prediction I think might happen depending on reviews of the film is Daisy Ridley in the biopic "Young Woman and the Sea" playing an Olympic swimmer.
Woah, woah - Michelle Pfeiffer is not a VILLAIN in Batman Returns. There are two villains in that film and, come to think of it, where was the other villain, Max Shreck. Christopher Walken was unavailable for the supporting actor presentation? "What, really, you want me - to do an introduction - one of five - like some schmuck - no, this I cannot do - it's unfair, really." (You've gotta really hear it.) But if they got him, wow, we could have had De Niro standing in the audience: "Nicky, no. Nick. Nicky. No." Maybe a bit dark.
Jim Carrey would have added value as a Batman villain. One of my favourite Oscar moments is Jim presenting best editing in 1998/99: "... that's all I'm here to do. I have nothing else to worry about. I can just show up and enjoy the parties ... [sigh] ... [applause] ... [tears]." Brilliant.
Or Tommy Lee Jones could have grunted the introduction to RDJ, seeing as he reprised his Oscar-winning role as Sam Gerard alongside RDJ in U.S. Marshals. But, no, Sam nailed it!
And as for Jack, well the days of Jack at the Oscars are sadly consigned to history. But, my gosh, was he good. From winning in 1997/98 ("I don't know, I've had a sinking feeling all night up to here, there's something about it ...") to the "Whoah" step back after announcing Crash as the winner.
Can you please put a link to Chris' interview with Jeffrey Wright? Somehow I missed it. Thanks!
Hi Beth! Thanks for listening and watching all year! Here's the interview with Jeffrey: th-cam.com/video/5aAIcwUvOb8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, Chris. Really looking forward to next week's episode and your early predictions. I saw Jeffrey interviewed on PBS Newshour and was utterly charmed@@chrisjrosen
Watched the interview. Insightful question about Jeffrey>Monk>Stagg, and an equally thoughtful response. The ref to "Silver Streak" caused me to be charmedx2. Well done.
YAYYYYY
I got 19/23 categories correct and predicted Emma Stone to prevail and happy that u mentioned the globes room when she won there cuz ever since that moment, I was like she’s winning this season. I haven’t seen that excitement for a win in a really long time. I also think Poor Things was peaking during voting whereas Killers peaked a lot earlier and lost its momentum. Stone is very beloved and I think they awarded not only her outstanding performance but they’re also rewarding her for the choices she’s made as an Actor and always pulls thru with craft. She also had the stronger film. She’s also just a natural campaigner, she doesn’t have to try to be liked she just is and comes across that way in most rooms which definitely helps.
Killers of the flower moon getting 0 Oscar’s is one of the greatest travesties of all time.
My first time watching the full telecast and Zone winning sound made my night! I had them down as a passion vote so really glad to see that. And as someone under 20, I do think the movies are the most important draw for getting younger people to watch. But do love a bit of John Mulaney
People expect you to do well Joyce because Gold Derby has given you the title of Expert.
Fortunately, we do well!
@@chrisjrosen Sure, but Joyce asked twice in this video why people expect her/you to do well and I'm providing the answer. I went 21/23 by the way.
@@itsybitsy999Agreed, I love the podcast but it’s odd that Joyce acts like it’s a ridiculous notion to think they should be right. They’re “experts”!
Would Lily Gladstone have won if she were in Supporting Actress category?
I think a lot of people probably think she would've won in that category but Randolph was a beloved fixture on the campaign trail and people loved her performance and her movie. Gladstone could've won but I think it would have been awfully close.
Yes
Yes, narrative again but yes
I like the acting presenters concept, now the execution... It just did not feel as epic as I think it should have felt. The tone of the presenters was just so inconsistent to me, as well as the way some were friends and others weren't. Also the way they were introduced and the lack of any clips of course. I was also just baffled by some of the choices. I mean, Jennifer Lawrence is nice, but Marlee Matlin was in attendance! Why wasn't she presenting?? Same with Sissy Spacek, who came with her husband (who was nominated). Both looked SO beautiful, I literally screamed the moment I saw them on the red carpet, only to not see either of them presenting Best Actress...
Hey Chris, what did you and Joyce think of that ridiculous In Memoriam? I cringed watching ballet dancers dance on the stage while not showing the images full screen. Very disappointing and disrespectful not only to the people who passed way but also viewers watching at home.
That was a strange choice -- I had a hard time making out a lot of the names. One of the few director/producer misses of the night for me.
@@chrisjrosen Yeah, I'm sure Joyce's reaction was like "What the hell are you doing here?" That was just jarring, I can't wait for the better closeup version on the TH-cam. Those legends deserved better cause that was a real tough beat.
Bafta should go back to airing after the oscars. I hate that they are a precursor..they should be their own thing
I find it hilarious tt 99.5% o Oscars pundits/experts r totally blindsided by SAG!! 😂
So many of them switch camp to Lily the moment she wins SAG!! And the rest, thot unsure follows the herd in the days leading up to Oscar night.
I'm glad tt majority o Oscar voters r voting based on merit n performance, n not history making narrative.
Its Best Leading Actress competition, not Best Missing most of the times Award!!
BAFTA is back……??..ok..never underestimate that group for sure, but to leave a committee to choose who’s nominated or not in the acting categories ..it’s nonsense …or to have quotas in order to be more “inclusive “ ……😒😒……… really??……take those nonsense committees out of the picture and show,some respect for your membership.
Top 3 gets nominated the jury choses the other 3
@@ella2117 I know!...and i wonder why??..whats the idea of having an academy if a jury chooses half of the nominees.....nonsense.
@MarcosCorderoBALDO because you ll have all white nominees... so top 3 get an auto nom and the jury of each branch picks the others to have a diverse lineup, that's how Fantasia Barino and the Actress from Rye Lane got a spot, a Teo Yoo who would have otherwise been left out. It allows POCs to have a nomination (even if they don't win because that's why the cutoff is at top 3, usually one of the top 3 wins so it doesn't matter per say most of the time for the winner) on their resume.
I wanted Lilly Gladstone to win but fine with Emma stone for poor thing . I disagree with you though The La La land win does not age well imho.
Because Isabelle Huppert should have won. I believe if she had been eligible for BAFTA that year. She would have.😊
Wow, you could not be more wrong! La La Land is a masterpiece and Emma Stone deserved that win too because she sang and danced so gracefully and also carrying dramatic weight in the last act that made us cry. That win has aged like fine wine. 🍷🤗
@@MovieandTVexpert1 It must be that boxed Franzia wine 🍷
@@7DAYS_ATSEA Well you must be either on the mental spectrum or living in an alternate reality where you can't appreciate great cinema. Isabel Hupert is great in Elle but I wouldn't discount Emma Stone's win in La La Land.
@@MovieandTVexpert1 I didn't discount, I prefer Huppert and believe she should have won. If that makes me "mental" so be it.
Gosling proved on the stage that actually he’s the one who should win that Oscar
Even if the song had won, Ryan wouldn't have won the actual award. It's a songwriting award.
@@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719 I meant his performance. Comedy is always so underestimated and much harder to do than drama. Every actor would tell you that. To me he was much more deserving acting wise than Downey Jr
@markostoppel1136 I would've voted for him too. If I ranked the supporting actor nominees, he would be at the top of the list.
RDJ winning was the only real stain on the ceremony
Omg, Oppenheimer was a slogfest of men talking to men talking to men in rooms of men, blah, blah, blah. Oh yeah, with one woman in it? What about all of the female scientists who worked on the Manhattan project? Why did Nolan completely leave them out? See Barbie for wise and insightful explanations for this phenomenon.
Cry, woman.