Musician Pegasus II or SMSL SU-X, Two Of The Best DAC Money Can Buy Right Now.

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  • @Tharbamar
    @Tharbamar  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @AdiMaco
    @AdiMaco 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    SMSL SU-X, at least from what I hear, is on a higher plane of sound reproduction with a more detailed, open, less distorted sound. Pegasus is just a tad warmer, but I prefer the SMSL SU-X which can take on any dac around 10K. I also believe that SMSL takes more care about their designs than Topping.

  • @davidhyka912
    @davidhyka912 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I like Deltasigma smsl much more, pegasus is not bad, but even in the video I perceive that R2R dacs generally always add something to the music (distortion and modulation noise?) which bothers me, but I fully understand what people like about it...R2R it sounds more as analog. Tharbamar reviews are some of the best.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agreed, thanks for the comment.

  • @supergwizzo
    @supergwizzo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The Su - X is blowing me away so smooth and just perfect vocals amasing dac ! 😊 smokes my ps audio direct stream !

  • @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038
    @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    After three very happy years with my SMSL SU-9, I saw your review of the SU-X and blind bought it... perfect combination with the tube Pre. Thank you very much Tharbamar!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great to hear!

  • @radicalrealmrecordings42
    @radicalrealmrecordings42 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Have you compared these two DACs with the Holo Audio Cyan 2 at all?

  • @stephenbailey9969
    @stephenbailey9969 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've had the VMV D1se2 with this ESS chip for two years now. If one wants to avoid any hint of digital glare, then keep it set at 44.1 khz. It's all the resolution anyone actually needs and you maintain the overall richness of the source's music.

    • @defu8592
      @defu8592 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have the d2r and love it

  • @danielesbordone1871
    @danielesbordone1871 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I like the SMSL , more clarity.

  • @rhphotocdn
    @rhphotocdn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The SU-X is just a bit brighter, i could see maybe after, longer listening periods it may become a bit harsh...? That Pegasus sounds wonderful...! Thank you for the review comparison.

  • @sachinshiva1
    @sachinshiva1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    CONGRATULATIONS SIR,❤❤.First for changing song other than Kiss Of LIfe .Secondly your every word, sentence is so well balanced for description of song ,music and demo .Even you are giving advise is upto point. Once again you are one of the best audio enthusiast ,reviewer and no nonsense approach , up to point description. One way not every one get opportunity to try dac and decide. In this way your demo songs are great , one can decide based on your opinion and demo songs which dac to buy. I am personally thankful to you for enabling viewers with such demos and advice. Keep rocking , keep posting such great reviews. I think it is one of the best place where TH-cam , Technology and YOU and VIEWERS are perfectly synchronized. Once again ,Well done sir to you and your team .💯💫💫💥👌👌

  • @valentinobv
    @valentinobv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For my taste, the SU-X is a little bit bright. For some time now, I have used only R-2R dacs and this is the direction I will follow forward. Pegasus II happy user ;)

  • @ducrider9163
    @ducrider9163 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Hi, you gave good reviews on the SMSL D400EX. How does the SU-X compares to the D400EX in sound?

  • @filipviljamaasvensson
    @filipviljamaasvensson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you for this video! The SU-X sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. I'm impressed that you could so easily hear the difference between the steel stringed guitar and the nylon stringed. With the Pegasus they sounded more similar to me. Grateful for this video.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad I could help!

    • @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038
      @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      COMPRATELO ES DE OTRO NIVEL, ESPECIAL CON HI RES Y SIN FILTRO ALGUNO, ES UNA VERDADERA MARAVILLA.

    • @zombielandiii2711
      @zombielandiii2711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@luisrodrigonunezolguin7038 Con que amp lo estás usando?

    • @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038
      @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zombielandiii2711 ROTEL 1582 MKII, LUMIN U1 Mini con LPS

    • @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038
      @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zombielandiii2711 ROTEL 1582 MKII + LUMIN U1 con LPS

  • @carminedesanto6746
    @carminedesanto6746 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Good afternoon from Toronto ☕️❄️
    I went with the Denafrips Ares 12-1 ..and I love it!🥰

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good choice!

    • @Seedlinux
      @Seedlinux 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same! I am in love of my Ares 12th-1!

  • @danielbrrio
    @danielbrrio 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The level of realism and detail in Pegasus is truly impressive. High level indeed!

  • @connorduke4619
    @connorduke4619 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I used to be an R2R dac fan but now prefer good chip Dacs, and this demo just confirms that decision for me.

  • @nicktaylor7680
    @nicktaylor7680 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To me the musician sounded sweeter with greater depth and decay on instruments - the SMSL could be better on less revealing speakers but I prefer to have revealing speakers tuned with smoother and more full sounding electronics such as the Pegasus.

  • @romainroger734
    @romainroger734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant review and recordings ! Pegasus's transcription wins even via my BT transfer on my little system, great musicality ! 👍

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @JasonD-yc3oy
    @JasonD-yc3oy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hopefully I get your response on this issue.... I know you have auditioned both the SMSL SU-X and the Topping D90III Sabre... I'm in need of a new DAC and torn between these. Which one would you recommend me to get? I want clean, deep, and tight base... and of course big sound stage and details. Thank you in advance for your time. Jason

  • @andreaspapandreu5717
    @andreaspapandreu5717 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For me, Musician Pegasus II , very musical :)

  • @wtcamer
    @wtcamer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That recording you did of Heart of Gold sounded so good on my headphones! Sounded better than most original recordings. Little bit of clipping, but it sounded like I was in the room. Topping A70Pro/D70Pro stack and some Hifiman Arya Stealth headphones. Pre-ordered a pair of Modhouse Tungstens, but still have at least a couple months before I get those!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @chriswindham9868
    @chriswindham9868 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wondering how the Topping D50 III would fare

  • @net_news
    @net_news 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have a Pegasus 1 and my only regret compared to delta-sigma's is the (lack of) punch in the bass. I've found the delta-sigma's, even the cheapest ones, much punchier in the bass, Pegasus' bass is beautiful and detailed but too soft. All the rest, soundstage, tone, ecc is better in the Pegasus.

  • @Bothtapes
    @Bothtapes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    would love some more music to judge ! I know you've done it now... but this comparison really needed more types of music... thank you for your detailed explanation, great video from a subscriber...just need to choose a streamer and amp.....or torn by my idea of 12 inch 4 way active diy speakers...!

  • @joseadan5024
    @joseadan5024 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really appreciate your feedback, I've got the Topping B200 and I agree with your review about it, so I'm looking for a DAC to give them justice, would you comment on how SMSL SU-X compares to Eversolo DMP-A8? DAC and Preamp sections? Thanks for giving us valuable data to take decisions on the never end audiophile journey...

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would say EverSolo A8 is better choice for features, sound quality and synergy with B200, thanks

    • @joseadan5024
      @joseadan5024 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!​@@Tharbamar

  • @steelsportstyle3608
    @steelsportstyle3608 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    А что по вашему играет лучше gustard r26 или musician pegasus ll ?

  • @carlosamlgo4863
    @carlosamlgo4863 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hola ! Como compararias al Su-X & Smls Su 10(seria tambien un buen video).
    Saludos

  • @W.M-j8h
    @W.M-j8h 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you do a review of Audial S5 Dac ? Please

  • @buckethead84
    @buckethead84 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can tell the most difference in the vocals, chip dacs struggle to sound natural. Pegasus would likely sound more natural with the NOS feature on since I can tell there's a touch of sibilance.

  • @eddietours3728
    @eddietours3728 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I will probably go with the musician 😉

  • @zombielandiii2711
    @zombielandiii2711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello Mr Tharbamar, im looking for my very first DAC. I have a Choco Sound Emei amp and by the different reviews, it has like tube amp sound. I really like it, and want to add a DAC. In this case do you recommend the smsl SU-X or the Pegasus? Thank you.
    Edit: Just finished watching your wonderful review. Thanks a lot. As you say, still confused about which one. I want more detail because the amp retrieve a little bit of detail, but i don't want brightness. 😅

  • @atulnsingh
    @atulnsingh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello Tharbamar, Hello from Ghana! I have been keenly following your channel for last 4-5 yrs. The Pegasus II sounds very promising.
    I really need your recommendation for a Stereo DAC (will never use headphone output). Torn between Pegasus II, Aune S9C, Topping DX9, Eversolo Z8 and maybe Chord Qutest (I do not like thin sound but still appreciate details). I currently have Topping E50 DAC so the new DAC should offer a significant upgrade from the current one. I will appreciate your reply.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi based on your comment I would suggest you to try Pegasus II in 1K USD range or SMSL SU-9 Ultra or E70 Velvet in $500 Range. thanks

  • @ysk249
    @ysk249 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is SMSL SU-X the same model as SMSL SU-10? The Roman numeral X stands for 10.
    By the way, I'm extremely pleased with the SMSL D400EX and Mogami that you recommended. Thank you, Tharbamar!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Please check out here,
      SMSL SU-X DAC World Premiere Review and Comparisons
      th-cam.com/video/mZSRO3t-0l0/w-d-xo.html

  • @Raymondey
    @Raymondey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Have you tried SMSL flagship VMV D2R with Rohm chip? Some say it’s the closest Delta Sigma to R2R

    • @newtongsm
      @newtongsm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I am using it sounding in good but the unit have power supply issues when you on it sound come like thud

  • @zombielandiii2711
    @zombielandiii2711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello Mr Tharbaram. I purchased this pegasus II and i love it, thanks for the recommendation. Its my first DAC amd i have a question. My streamer is a Wiim Pro and from there to this DAC, and from there to my Choco Emei amp. How do i bypass the Wiim DAC and use only de Pegasus DAC? Connected from Coax or from Optical to the DAC? Thanks again.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, yes Coaxial or Optical from WiiM Pro to Pegasus II is the best way, thanks

  • @mizujunior2519
    @mizujunior2519 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great videos like always, let me ask you a question if I where to run my DAP as a streamer source, would be better to run directly trough a preamp or a DAC?

  • @matytinman
    @matytinman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Musician Pegasus II R2R DAC is the winner. SMSL XU-X DAC sounds good but if you listen to Pegasus II first then 😕.The voice is much better with Pegasus II. Sound is more natural, credible, engadging.. It seems obvious that R2R DACs have improved quite a bit.

    • @JasonD-yc3oy
      @JasonD-yc3oy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      but too much sibilance from the r2r dac

  • @elmerbais
    @elmerbais 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Darn it now i need to get this pegasus instead. Thanks i like them both!

  • @ernestoc.2304
    @ernestoc.2304 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I prefer the Musician, more natural and musical

    • @JasonD-yc3oy
      @JasonD-yc3oy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      too much sibilance from the musician so the smsl wins hands down

  • @PCHPete
    @PCHPete 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just curious. What is your favorite Streamer to use? Thanks!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spotify Premium streaming with my old Sony HAP-Z1ES which resample everything to DSD paring with external R2R DAC, 2nd favorite is Eversolo DMP-A8, thanks

  • @Djk0t
    @Djk0t 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi there thank you for the reviews. Quick question, the Pegasus ii is the better choice for soundstage and 3d sound with dad files playing mainly musical jazz , vocals. Thank you in advance

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes it should work great for your need with a bit richer side tonal balance, thank you.

    • @Djk0t
      @Djk0t 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much

  • @ColocasiaCorm
    @ColocasiaCorm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dang sux sounding good.

  • @pongyang8705
    @pongyang8705 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Pegasus definitely is better. The string plucks are much more detailed and clear.

  • @justasimplefox
    @justasimplefox 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can only use RCA output in my system , any chance you compared it to the XLR output? 🙏

  • @ajzepp8976
    @ajzepp8976 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The guitar on the Musician Pegasus II clearly stands out (in a good way) over the SMSL, imo.

  • @SimpleMailWork
    @SimpleMailWork 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Welcome!

  • @mxjoaoo
    @mxjoaoo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i like a lot of hip hop and edm music and thus i enjoy a lot of bass. Currently my Modi 3 serves me well regarding bass quantity and punch, more than my other Zen DAC, but obviously the Modi can’t give a good soundstage and stereo image. Based on these demos I really enjoy the Pegasus natural representation of sound but i’m concerned with it bass reproduction, any comments Tharbamar? 😊

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For Bass R2R DAC will deliver very natural sound and deep bass, also try AKM based DAC like th-cam.com/video/6Nan-KfdPqI/w-d-xo.html

    • @mxjoaoo
      @mxjoaoo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Tharbamar great i will order the pegasus as I really enjoy its sound signature, but I need a preamp as it will feed monoblocks, maybe gustard p26?

  • @kdj585
    @kdj585 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Deeply appreciated for your excellent review. I feel Musician Pegasus II is more relaistic and brisk sound in guitar and vocal too🤭

  • @maverickrou
    @maverickrou 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this piece!!! where to find it please?
    I'm hesitating between the Denafrips Pontus, the Musician Pegasus, and the Gustard R26
    thank you for your videos!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In the description. Thanks

    • @maverickrou
      @maverickrou 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes I read but I didn't find it on Qobuz.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maverickrou Not on streaming platforms.

  • @Bulee
    @Bulee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi. Which of them would you connect to the Unison Research S6 tube amplifier and Monitor Audio Gold 300 5G loudspeakers?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      May be SMSL SU-X for most transparent sound.

    • @Bulee
      @Bulee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your answer. I currently have a Gustard R26. Do you think Pegasus II sounds better than it? I would like to have 2 DACs, one R2R and one Delta Sigma. Regards 🖐️

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As this video title shows that’s where it stands, in case if you don’t know I had R26 and many more expensive DAC. Thanks

  • @Kukkema
    @Kukkema 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What would be a good upgrade from smsl-su1. No more than $500 ?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would suggest SMSL SU-9 Ultra or Topping E70 Velvet.

  • @Mattiu75
    @Mattiu75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Was ready to ask your opinion about Musician Pegasus 2 Vs. Denafrips Ares 12th-1 but if I'm not mistaken it's more on the Pontus class, is it really the case? In fact I'm looking for a laid back, wide soundstage and analog sounding pure DAC component to escape my current upfront and bright presentation ESS DAC implementation. This Pegasus seems to be the right choice for me.

    • @aussie8114
      @aussie8114 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MP sounds like an easy listen to my old ears.

  • @liamporter1137
    @liamporter1137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @Amp1tude
    @Amp1tude 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    which one would you choose for the Polk R200

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably SU-X.

  • @shan-junlu8238
    @shan-junlu8238 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If someone wants female vocals, and airy/open treble (and care less about the other stuff), what would you recommend between the Musician Pegasus II and the Ladder Schumann DAC?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It'll be depending on paring components, both of them are capable of doing it.

  • @johnschwarz9639
    @johnschwarz9639 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This will happen whenever you introduce a new device into an existing system that has been voiced together. You may have found the musician dark for just having chosen your cables with the SMSL.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No Sir I never get fooled by it because I know how each of them sound down to detail, I have tested many DAC back to back not only based on these two, Please note I only use most transparent cables.

  • @ZVM600
    @ZVM600 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hello.
    Pegasus ii or Gustard r26?
    Thanks

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had R26 but now I’m enjoying Pegasus II, thanks

  • @YamilLlanos
    @YamilLlanos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Silly question: can the Pegasus be used with 4 feet instead of 3?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No 4 feet option from factory.

  • @牧園-m4x
    @牧園-m4x 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could you compare the Pegasus to the Denafrips?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry No plan I have to work on other projects.

  • @D1N02
    @D1N02 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Massive difference. I want the detail of the su-x and the timbre/color of the musician.

  • @briancampbell7712
    @briancampbell7712 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gustard A26 still better than all the rest❓

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's all depending on personal preference.

  • @andreik4712
    @andreik4712 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    А если сравнить с d400ex?

  • @牧園-m4x
    @牧園-m4x 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    14:05 17:16

  • @mjmonjure
    @mjmonjure 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Denafrips, eh hey, I mean the Musicians Pegasus is the clear winner

  • @genaishivatov1737
    @genaishivatov1737 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SMSL SU-X

  • @ColocasiaCorm
    @ColocasiaCorm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:26
    16:38

    • @ColocasiaCorm
      @ColocasiaCorm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They sound identical sometimes

  • @shawnpwatsons1
    @shawnpwatsons1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the SU-X better.

  • @craigenputtock
    @craigenputtock 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When oh when will these companies get rid of the MQA nonsense!

  • @silkhead44
    @silkhead44 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Too rich for my ears

  • @피터팬-n3f
    @피터팬-n3f 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hi~
    Is it possible to compare Gustard a26 and smsl su-x?
    If you were to choose between the two, I was wondering which one you would choose.
    Thank you.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That will be tough choice, mostly preference and system dependent because can’t go wrong with either one. Currently I’m only using SU-X, thanks