Thank you lol. It's a tad goofy that people act like it's the end of the world if you wind up with a repro cart. I agree 100%, AS LONG AS THE SELLER IS HONEST AND LABELS IT AS SUCH. I've said this on other comments but it's true so I'll repeat it here. Repros, or "bootlegs" as your hardcore collectors call them, can be a much better option. MANY are made with high quality these days and work 100% fine. No damage to the console and no screen problems when playing. And with the n64 generation and back being pretty old now and just getting older by the year, having to replace those old save batteries can be difficult for some. Especially ones that require soldering. As to where these reproduction carts have brand new boards and save batteries in them so they will last you much, much longer. Possibly 30 to 50 years longer. I have heard of problems with gameboy repros with some having screen flickering and genesis carts getting stuck in consoles. But I've never experienced or seen such problems or similar ones with n64 "bootlegs". And I agree with old buddy, I'm not paying a thousand dollars or even more than 100 for a game to play. I'll take the repro ANYDAY in those cases.
The main draw is that you know what to look for if you're paying top dollar. You don't want to pay the price of the real game and get a fake. Otherwise I'm with you repros are just as good in most cases.
I bought a fake one on eBay. The seller disappeared before it got to me, so I couldn't leave feedback, which makes me think they knew. I ended up giving it to my brother who plays some retro video games, but isn't a collector. I went to a local game store and make sure the one I picked up there was legit.
Joey I guess the “Player’s Choice” cassette because the clean cassette has a black ESRB letter when the original May 1999 release used a white ESRB letter instead.
Apparently you can look at the dot over the I too the real Nintendo cartridge for 64 has a square dot where the bootlegs will have a circular Dot at least according to DK oldies
No this does not mean a solid black ESRB logo is a knockoff (It means it was a version between the ESRB logo change (1999)- The player choice version (with the solid black as well)
Also the fact that some of these fakes for some reason change the appearance of the ESRB rating to a more recent design kind of makes it easy to indicate, as trivial as that may be.
Are there any known dangers to popping in a fake in real hardware? I was terribly educated so I own a few fakes now, and honestly my biggest concern would be ruining a console.
There CAN be. But it doesnt mean there will. The "repros" you bought, you could play them for the next 50 years and it never damage the console a single bit. People make repros so good now days some could argue, unless your a traditionalist and need the OG cart for collecting purposes, that repros are a better option. They have brand new save batteries and boards in them. And all cartridge based games that have save batteries will have to have them replaced one day. Its inevitable. And some can require soldering to do so. And with a repro, or as as your hardcore collectors like to call them "bootlegs", its brand new save batteries so you wont have to worry about that for another 20 30 or 40 years. Or maybe more. As to where all games from this generation (n64) and back are getting pretty old now. BUT, I'm not trying to encourage you to buy a reproduction cart. Just simply trying to educate and inform since people act as if it's the end all be all if you wind up with one. I have heard of sega genesis repros having issues with getting stuck in consoles and gameboy ones having flickering issues on screen, but I personally have never heard or seen someone with that problem or anything similar when using an n64.
@@bmac2814 I wouldnt put a chinese bootleg cart in my original snes. Sub par boards with very cheap components. But hey thats just me. A retro circuits repro is in a completely different relm as far as repros go. Just saying...
All my childhood N64 games must be fake then. Weird! Them tilting forward is actually common. N64 cartridges are slightly rounded at the bottom, and some of the more topheavy carts will lean forward. Anything with a battery save really.
I have people trying to trade these bootlegs into my store all the time. CBF, Sculptors Cut, and Stunt Racer are the common ones I see, and always from dodgy looking people trading in a box of sports titles. Easy to spot. The plastic feels weird.
my mom has cartridges somewhere in her room, but we haven't found them yet. she seems to have looked practically everywhere now and hasn't found them, so i lost my patience and gave her the money to order a new one, super smash bros. we both know it's probably a fake, but i'm one of those people who doesn't care, as long as i can play the game. we will find all our authentic cartridges eventually, and i know she has mario 64, ocarina of time, and majora's mask, three of my favorites in the n64 library
I have 4 mass produced fakes. 3 I bought with full knowledge that they were fake, 1 I got duped by an Amazon Seller. After taking a look at the build quality (ie don't even bother with the inner screws, cheap little flash board) I have switched to buying cosmetically flawed originals to keep costs down and it weeds out 99% of Repros. For the ones that are out of sight for pricing for originals of any condition, I am going with the Retro Stage Blaster. They are IMHO higher quality than the mass produced ones.
FightGet Also, it has Black ESRB letters when the cassette isn’t the “Player’s Choice” version. Super Smash Bros.’ original American version came out on May 1999, and Black ESRB letters didn’t exist until October 1999. “Player’s Choice” cassettes for this game came out in 2000, when the black ESRB letters get used for real.
Hay John I have question I have a Rom hack copy of super smash bros its call d smash remix I got it off Amazon yesterday for some resion it will not boot up I'm glade I got it so then i whent back it said the only it will play if it has an expansion card I don't know if it's the expansion pack or the expansion memory pack.
Another way to tell if N64 games are fake on the back of the cart the Nintendo logo writing the letter i has a circle dot on the original real cart the letter i has a square dot
Hello John Could you confirm if the punched/imprinted numbers on the back label (top right) are missing on the fake cart, from your video it looks like it And that should be a dead give away that the cart is fake Gb gba games had this on the front label
@@Artsensei86 It depends on the system most Chinese repros use 3V flash chips which is fine with N64 & GBA as that's what they run at. But not safe in 5V systems like NES, SNES or Gameboy.
I see those on ebay for half the price of used ones. I have a bootleg Starcraft n64 game, I had sold mine years ago stupidly, when I started playing it on PC... cool video!
I bought one of these FOR 60 FEKKIN BUCKS! The game doesn't save, there's parts on the chip that do NOTHING. THE BATTERY IS FAKE. I AM NOT KIDDING. OMG I'll post a video showing this. There is no electrical connectivity to the battery port on these things.
The problem with those things is legitimate game play. According to tournament judges, such games do not count at all. In other words, if you beat a difficult game using a knockoff, you have not beaten that particular game at all in reality.
Well i have mario party 3, paper mario and Pokémon stadium but i dont have anything to open to know if they are legit they seem to good in condition to be true but im pretty sure they are real
You’d be surprised how many idiots out there don’t even know there are fakes. I got gifted a fake Mario Kart 64 so I sold it and I had at least 10 idiots messaging me how do you know it’s fake? Does it work? 🤦🏽♂️
I bought a fake MK 64 and I am still mad about it. It plays Mario Kart fine, but it's still not real. I totally get what you said about it barely fitting. You have to jam it in there.
I have no problem with bootlegs as long as it is obviously labeled a boot and the seller is transparent about it.
Thank you lol. It's a tad goofy that people act like it's the end of the world if you wind up with a repro cart. I agree 100%, AS LONG AS THE SELLER IS HONEST AND LABELS IT AS SUCH. I've said this on other comments but it's true so I'll repeat it here. Repros, or "bootlegs" as your hardcore collectors call them, can be a much better option. MANY are made with high quality these days and work 100% fine. No damage to the console and no screen problems when playing. And with the n64 generation and back being pretty old now and just getting older by the year, having to replace those old save batteries can be difficult for some. Especially ones that require soldering. As to where these reproduction carts have brand new boards and save batteries in them so they will last you much, much longer. Possibly 30 to 50 years longer. I have heard of problems with gameboy repros with some having screen flickering and genesis carts getting stuck in consoles. But I've never experienced or seen such problems or similar ones with n64 "bootlegs". And I agree with old buddy, I'm not paying a thousand dollars or even more than 100 for a game to play. I'll take the repro ANYDAY in those cases.
From my own experience with GBA games on ebay, sellers don't give a sh*t, I gave up trying to find rare gba games on ebay, N64 games are next I guess.
Bootlegs are pointless and make collecting harder. get a Raspberry Pi if you want to just play the game.
Yeah I paid resell market price for Harvest Moon 64 and it turned out to be a reproduction cart. 😔 The seller made no indication that it was one too.
@Michael O Callaghan true
Straight to the point, I like it!
Did you watch
cowboy pocket tomorrow ?????
Yes we all want originals .i agree but sometimes we just want to play a game that works and is affordable.
The main draw is that you know what to look for if you're paying top dollar. You don't want to pay the price of the real game and get a fake. Otherwise I'm with you repros are just as good in most cases.
Unless you're a collector
In that case just buy a multi cart. Some people want the authentic thing.
get an everdrive then
It really doesn't matter to me as long as u can actually play it on the real hardware
It matters to collectors
I don't want to pay a good price for a repro.
It does matter if you want your game to work proper while playing it and don’t crash every too often
@@cristiancalderon9657 I have some reproductions and they don't have any issues
exactly, only collectors care
Anyone can spot a fake board. Spotting a fake label on a real game is where it gets difficult.
It's obvious here. The N64 logo and seal of approval are stretched to wrong proportions.
I bought a fake one on eBay. The seller disappeared before it got to me, so I couldn't leave feedback, which makes me think they knew. I ended up giving it to my brother who plays some retro video games, but isn't a collector. I went to a local game store and make sure the one I picked up there was legit.
You can also see it in the nintendo logo on the back. The real one use a square dot over the letter "i", but the fake one uses a round dott.
I just got a cartridge that passed that test but didn't pass the other tests so maybe they're getting better at making fakes nowadays.
I guessed the clean one because I thought this was going to be a trick question.
Joey I guess the “Player’s Choice” cassette because the clean cassette has a black ESRB letter when the original May 1999 release used a white ESRB letter instead.
Plus there a number at the bottom of the cartridge to show what section it is.
@@yahiryellow1 Hi n64 me!!
Same!
Thanks for the heads up. I've been hesitant to expand my gba collection due to fakes
another decent way to tell for 64 games is the stamp on the rear label. i believe the smash stamp code is 19
Apparently you can look at the dot over the I too the real Nintendo cartridge for 64 has a square dot where the bootlegs will have a circular Dot at least according to DK oldies
As long as I'm not paying collector prices for replicas. I imagine that is the point of looking for fakes.
No this does not mean a solid black ESRB logo is a knockoff (It means it was a version between the ESRB logo change (1999)- The player choice version (with the solid black as well)
Also the fact that some of these fakes for some reason change the appearance of the ESRB rating to a more recent design kind of makes it easy to indicate, as trivial as that may be.
Are there any known dangers to popping in a fake in real hardware? I was terribly educated so I own a few fakes now, and honestly my biggest concern would be ruining a console.
Voltage and current draws are a real danger from bootleg carts.
There CAN be. But it doesnt mean there will. The "repros" you bought, you could play them for the next 50 years and it never damage the console a single bit. People make repros so good now days some could argue, unless your a traditionalist and need the OG cart for collecting purposes, that repros are a better option. They have brand new save batteries and boards in them. And all cartridge based games that have save batteries will have to have them replaced one day. Its inevitable. And some can require soldering to do so. And with a repro, or as as your hardcore collectors like to call them "bootlegs", its brand new save batteries so you wont have to worry about that for another 20 30 or 40 years. Or maybe more. As to where all games from this generation (n64) and back are getting pretty old now. BUT, I'm not trying to encourage you to buy a reproduction cart. Just simply trying to educate and inform since people act as if it's the end all be all if you wind up with one. I have heard of sega genesis repros having issues with getting stuck in consoles and gameboy ones having flickering issues on screen, but I personally have never heard or seen someone with that problem or anything similar when using an n64.
@@bmac2814 I wouldnt put a chinese bootleg cart in my original snes. Sub par boards with very cheap components. But hey thats just me. A retro circuits repro is in a completely different relm as far as repros go. Just saying...
The most easy spot to check if you have a real or fake is on the motherboard. If the golden Nintendo title isn't there you have a fake one.
One thing I have noticed with fakes that nobody talks about is that if you stand the cart up right, it leans forward (towards you).
All my childhood N64 games must be fake then. Weird!
Them tilting forward is actually common. N64 cartridges are slightly rounded at the bottom, and some of the more topheavy carts will lean forward. Anything with a battery save really.
I have people trying to trade these bootlegs into my store all the time. CBF, Sculptors Cut, and Stunt Racer are the common ones I see, and always from dodgy looking people trading in a box of sports titles. Easy to spot. The plastic feels weird.
Basically, it looks right but it feels wrong
What kind of screws did the fake have?
my mom has cartridges somewhere in her room, but we haven't found them yet. she seems to have looked practically everywhere now and hasn't found them, so i lost my patience and gave her the money to order a new one, super smash bros. we both know it's probably a fake, but i'm one of those people who doesn't care, as long as i can play the game. we will find all our authentic cartridges eventually, and i know she has mario 64, ocarina of time, and majora's mask, three of my favorites in the n64 library
The color of the fake one is more lighter too
I have 4 mass produced fakes. 3 I bought with full knowledge that they were fake, 1 I got duped by an Amazon Seller. After taking a look at the build quality (ie don't even bother with the inner screws, cheap little flash board) I have switched to buying cosmetically flawed originals to keep costs down and it weeds out 99% of Repros. For the ones that are out of sight for pricing for originals of any condition, I am going with the Retro Stage Blaster. They are IMHO higher quality than the mass produced ones.
What ever happened to your theme song intro man? Love that stuff.
I opened up my N64 Sin & Punishment cart which is in great condition and...
It's LEGIT! Thanks for helping me confirm!
the label on the fake looks stretched
FightGet Also, it has Black ESRB letters when the cassette isn’t the “Player’s Choice” version. Super Smash Bros.’ original American version came out on May 1999, and Black ESRB letters didn’t exist until October 1999. “Player’s Choice” cassettes for this game came out in 2000, when the black ESRB letters get used for real.
You can also tell without opening them by looking at the gold fingers.
the screws are the same?
Hay John I have question I have a Rom hack copy of super smash bros its call d smash remix I got it off Amazon yesterday for some resion it will not boot up I'm glade I got it so then i whent back it said the only it will play if it has an expansion card I don't know if it's the expansion pack or the expansion memory pack.
love the right to the point stuff and yeah its pretty clear and any game shop worth its salt in gold will let you open and test the games in shore.
The only game I'd legit buy a fake cartridge of , is Conkers bad fur today. Only because the original people want like 150$ for it.
My original super smash bros that I have since i was a kid looks as good as that fake one
Another way to tell if N64 games are fake on the back of the cart the Nintendo logo writing the letter i has a circle dot on the original real cart the letter i has a square dot
Does the bootleg one still run good though?
Where do you buy the original?
Always check the board it should have Nintendo stamped on it
Hello John
Could you confirm if the punched/imprinted numbers on the back label (top right) are missing on the fake cart, from your video it looks like it
And that should be a dead give away that the cart is fake
Gb gba games had this on the front label
Csn those flash boards get reflashed?
does the fake play any different?
Great video, always get worried getting fakes
Are fakes still ok to play if you just want to play it?
Sure but you can play emulators too if you just want to play the games, for free, so.
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism yeah I emulate too just wondering if I came across a fake if it was ok to play
@@Artsensei86 It depends on the system most Chinese repros use 3V flash chips which is fine with N64 & GBA as that's what they run at. But not safe in 5V systems like NES, SNES or Gameboy.
@@schaffiourketaris2691 thank you
But do repro n64 games damages your N64 in general?
Why there is an altera chip on it?
Where did you get that N64 controller in the beginning of the video?
Thnx for spreading the infos. Good to know
Just look for the nintendo logo on the board
I see those on ebay for half the price of used ones. I have a bootleg Starcraft n64 game, I had sold mine years ago stupidly, when I started playing it on PC... cool video!
The fake is the sketchy
reproductions are alright for those who don't mind it but i prefer an original copy
I have this game in the box original with everything what would this be worth
Nintendo 64 fake games are a little to expensive to make a profit
What are they rare?
I'd rather have the flash board. Awesome for tinkering :P
It doesn't matter unless is playabe
I have a few in the box . .
The color looked washed out, but to the untrained eye, peoplewould get scammed easily.
I bought one of these FOR 60 FEKKIN BUCKS! The game doesn't save, there's parts on the chip that do NOTHING. THE BATTERY IS FAKE. I AM NOT KIDDING. OMG I'll post a video showing this. There is no electrical connectivity to the battery port on these things.
I have my dads copy and it looks like the bootleg but he got it when it came out
I could tell it was fake from the back label.
The problem with those things is legitimate game play. According to tournament judges, such games do not count at all. In other words, if you beat a difficult game using a knockoff, you have not beaten that particular game at all in reality.
What is that exact tv?
Its a CRT screen. Never seen one before?
@@RealHealthyGuidance I'm asking what's the exact name of that tv. Not what type
@@RealHealthyGuidance I know it's a cry but what is the exact name of it.
Well i have mario party 3, paper mario and Pokémon stadium but i dont have anything to open to know if they are legit they seem to good in condition to be true but im pretty sure they are real
Soooo how did you get this one? You got duped? You're not getting sloppy there on us Riggs?
I think all the games I got from eBay is fake
It's too pink.
You’d be surprised how many idiots out there don’t even know there are fakes. I got gifted a fake Mario Kart 64 so I sold it and I had at least 10 idiots messaging me how do you know it’s fake? Does it work? 🤦🏽♂️
My local game exchange sell boot legs of that game. Its un ethical man, diluting the population like that.
I bought a fake MK 64 and I am still mad about it. It plays Mario Kart fine, but it's still not real. I totally get what you said about it barely fitting. You have to jam it in there.
Curtis Griffin I have a Dragon Ball Kart 64 Game Pak, and it saves Time Trials records and Extra/150cc Mirror unlocks just fine.
But does that damage your n64?
I don't like bedbugs sooooo aliexpress
I don't like these repro scammers
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