Fli-Right Gage Fixes Concentricity Without Harming Neck Tension
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Neck tension is more important then concentricity however it still matters. Here in this video I show hot to get both good consistent neck tension and good concentricity using the Fli-Right Concentricity Gage. This gage is a one of a kind and the only one like it. I have been using it for some time now and can tell you that when I shoot a match with ammo that has NOT been checked and straightened my scores are lower then when I shoot a match with ammo that has been checked and straitened.
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you measure runout on the case neck and a loaded round on the bullet to get a true reading.
Actually no. The case neck floats in your chamber. The shoulder and body is what centers the cartridge in the chamber. If the case neck was in contact with the bore before the firing sequence started it would cause a catastrophic pressure issue. Always indicate on the datem points that hold the case.
I bought one of these a few years ago after a friend of mine used his on my handloads it's a great tool easy to use and it really works. You brass really needs to be clean
I saw the product at the show some years ago and it was $475. Now it is $389. I tried them and really want to buy them!
I agree with you on the Horaday It does loosen up the bullet and i ended up having a real bad match .
I know you mentioned name but I missed it. Anyway I do not see how you were supposedly adjusting bullet when it looks in video you were on body with gage and not bullet? I zoomed in and all and still looked like gage was on body.
It looks like a good tool but i personally don't even check concentricity anymore. I use to check every round I loaded and sort into groups by TIR and with the barrel and load I'm currently running it makes ZERO difference. I've even had some batches with +/-".0025(".005 total) that shot smaller groups than the +/-".0002 batch. Your mileage may vary but shoot groups with each end of the spectrum and then decide if the difference is significant enough to spend your time rolling your rounds under an indicator.
I'm hoping when the bullet enters the lands the barrel will sort out any problems :)
@@DLN-ix6vf It sure seems to...to a point. .008" tir on mine seems to be the limit that opens my groups up a whopping .1moa or so. Most bullets tend to yaw during some of their flight anyway. Then hopefully somewhere along it's travel it straightens out and "goes to sleep". Thomas "Speedy" Gonzalez has more info than nearly anyone regarding testing gyroscopic stability of bullets.
@@kassilewis5511 I had a chance to get the Hornady Concentricity & neck wall thickness gauges together but after seeing the Fli-Right and how well it is built I will pass on the Hornady and save up for the Fli_Right for sure. Looks very solid !
Love the solid support the case gets
@@DLN-ix6vf the fli-right is a nice unit. But that price is near ridiculous to me. The sinclair will give a more accurate reading the way the bearing surfaces are located on two points along the case body and costs ALOT less. The whole "correcting concentricity feature" is useless on any one of them. It seems like a good idea but all it seems to do is disrupt neck tension to correct an issue that is far less important. Runout just doesn't seem to make a difference.....until it does.
The only time I even think about checking concentricity now is if I'm setting up a new die.
My case neck thickness gauge is a 0-1" mitutoyo tubing micrometer. I neck turn so it was a must for me.
that is what is pure genius about this gage. it does not interrupt neck tension. You can bang on a round all day and when you pull it it will come out just as hard as any other.
Sadly I am not sure if Bill is selling them anymore. I have not been able to get ahold of him in over a year now.
Where did you get the aluminum bullet trays? They look really nice and durable.
I made those. Future product some day. If I can ever catch up with other production.
Where can I get one of these Tools? Thanks Tim Hill
Here is where I got mine. www.premieraccuracy.com/index.html
So where can you buy these please?
Premier Accuracy sells them.
Thanks
Gee, I have been using the Hornady with no problems at all. It straightens the same way as I straighten arrows. I am no longer shooting competitions. As matter of fact I stopped shooting comps decades ago. Yeah, I'm an old guy. I shoot short range (100-200 yards) and the only accuracy problems are with my eyes.
Ok I’m sold. I need to get one.
The new ones look even better. And can handle even the 50BMG.
I have both Sinclair and Hornady gauges. If you straighten one on the Hornady gauges it will have runout on the Sinclair guage. Which one is correct? I pick the Sinclair. The Hornady is a waste of money.
The Hornady gage is horrible design. It grabs the case by the rim and give you very bad readings. Use your Sinclair for sure.
if the hornady tool is used CORRECTLY, it WILL remove runout without changing neck tension.....to do this you check runout at the NECK, not the BULLET, and straighten at the NECK......almost everybody is using it wrong.......
I mean you no disrespect but this is simply not correct. You must indicate the cartridge on the gage surface that is in contact with the chamber. The neck does not contact the chamber. Only after it is fired does it do this. That is why we measure runout on the neck before sizing the brass. Again after sizing it but once the bullet is loaded we only do it to the bullet and case body.
What is that caliber? 6x54r?
Its actually 6.5mm BR Lapua. I have built a substantial website detailing its development here. grimstoddesh.wordpress.com
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That big cartridge(second) it look like a rimmed cartridge
@@hse2376 It is. A large rim too. Much thicker then the 30-30 or 45-70 cases you are probably sued to. OD of the rim is .585 and its .062 thick.
Clearly you've never put a nail in with an arbor press. It works just fine. A 16 ounce hammer puts out over 100 pounds of force. Your little gentle "taps" are putting out way for force than you realize.
I have. They bend.
@@GrimstodDesh yeah if they're not straight and you apply to much force to fast. How do you think a nailgun works?
@@EitriBrokkr Like a hammer. They are inertia based.
@@GrimstodDesh thats exactly my point
you checking on the case body ,try the neck
Yes the gage can be inverted to do those types of checks.
Buy a tiny hammer at HB