What Is Going Wrong With Kyle Busch?
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- Kyle Busch may just go down as one of the best drivers in the history of NASCAR racing. With that being said the last few years have steadily fallen away from that standard with 2024 starting off on an awful note. So today, 15 races into 2024 we are going to look into Rowdy’s worst season yet and try to figure out the issues. What is going wrong with Kyle Busch?
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Why do you think Kyle Busch has been in decline?
The team isn’t the best, bad luck and age
Was starting to blame JUST the pit crew
The new car
Team equipment
Washed
In my opinion
1 lack of practice
2 bad equipment
3 anger and emotions
4 age he’s not young
5 next gen makes more teams competitive
All of this has all led to a decline in performance
Yup, all those things really add up to work against him.
OK, why have the younger guys been demoted to the xfinity scrubs. Why has Elliot, Gibbs, Truex, Suarez, and Chastain been in the toilet so much.
@oktoday8323
Why not just blame it on covid. Are these guys just not capable off over coming the technology. Or has over engineering defeated ones education VS. the capacity to learn. Are you saying next year they will have conquered the new car ... or is next year going to be the dawn of another new care and more rule changes. Maybe Matty D and Haley Deegan will have a chance.
Lack of practice affects everyone, not just Busch.
He's used to having the best equipment, and now that he's in average equipment, he's throwing juvenile temper tantrums.
It's all the above plan and simple
People are quick to point out Busch’s age but Hamlin is 43 and Truex is 44 and they’re both competing at top level.
Truex has showed signs of decline though. He struggled in 2022, then had a bounce back last year before choking in the playoffs, and he's been kind of quiet this season so far.
@@zachwalentinyI would even say since 2020, he only won once that year and was in a must win situation at Martinsville and 2021 while better was nearly kicked out the playoffs in the round of 8 and got bailed out late
I would put in the class as Elliot who has won one race in three years they are both about the same both lacking for wind
Martin was good till the end
That is because Hamlin is still trying to go for A championship where as Truex he has been flirting with retirement an it could be the last season we see him.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Adam Steven, won both championships with Kyle Busch and was no longered paired with each other after 2020. Adam Steven has made the final 4 twice since they split so it just feels as if he has a bit of impact on Kyle's decline as well.
Edit: Another thing to consider. When they started together in 2015 they made every Championship race until 2020, their only year they didn't make it.
Big Kyle Busch fan here, Adam Stevens definitely had a role in the prime of Kyle Busch’s career. Similar to Chris Gabehart for Denny Hamlin right now.
@@nascarsam6161 and similar to Chad Knaus for Jimmie Johnson
Kyle Busch recently said that after the halfway point of the 2023 season, like Elliott after the 2022 regular season, he really struggled with this next gen car and how to handle it.
I do think he still has the talent, but is just stuck in a really bad rut.
I always go back to Kyle Busch's worst enemy is himself.
True that.
That’s nothing new.
In my opinion, age is not a concern as Harvick, Hamlin, Truex Jr, and even Kyle’s older brother Kurt Busch remain in contention for wins with this Gen 7 car. Fewer practice sessions certainly contribute to his struggles. Kyle mentioned at Darlington during the Gen 6 era when he was with JGR, how they would depend on simulators for car setups, and then they would struggle on race day. Kyle is more hands on with fine tuning his race car to be competitive and the changes to fewer practice sessions and using more simulation data is affecting his performance on track. Also, RCR is still behind Hendrick, Gibbs, Penske, RFK, and Trackhouse in terms of performance with the Gen 7 car. Pretty much the reason why Kyle said to Stenhouse that he sucks as bad as him on track. I can see why some would rather have Kyle leave RCR for another team, but teams like Trackhouse, Spire, and 23XI have drivers waiting for their chance at Cup, so Kyle’s long term future with other teams is not certain either.
I'm a Kyle Busch fan and I always have been since I was little. I remember in 2015 when I was 4 he won the championship and I still have that Die cast that he signed. Its hard seeing your hero sink. I am praying that he somehow makes his way into the championship but honestly all I want is a win.......... :(
2015 he didn't win the championship he was given the biggest undeserved asterisk in sports history Busch is overrated trash
Let's not forget about 2019. He "deserved" it then.@@Alex-dc5mx
@Alex-dc5mx Bet you didn't realize that David Pearson ran only part time in the nascar cup series and won 3 CHAMPIONSHIPS. Get he was overrated to in your opinion
@@VarishKasturiactually I did know that as a diehard NASCAR fan since 95
4:08 Age had nothing to do with how Jimmie Johnson ran towards the end of his full time career and had everything to do with that really hard crash he had at Pocono. Also all of the Hendrick Motorsports drivers struggled in the late 2010's.
Being a fan of his since the beginning it has to do with the equipment more than anything. He’s always had an immature side to him but most of that is usually when he’s not performing to the degree he feels he should be. The new car doesn’t help tbh because there have been some drivers who have kind of struggled with the new car even now a year and a half into it. But the competitiveness isn’t there so now you’re gonna see him fall even further probably into obscurity the longer he is at RCR. It sucks as a fan, but it’s something he and Richard should probably discuss now rather than later.
RFK should buy a charter from SHR and put Kyle Busch in a 3rd RFK car for he could be slightly competitive again
There's a higher chance of Justin Haley going to RFK after they buy an SHR charter than that happening.
More than anything I think it’s a combination of an inability to adapt to the no practice and the new car and his overall attitude. He has more talent than most of the cup garage put together but his demeanor is one of “fuck it” and get pissed off rather than diagnosing the issues and trying to adapt to not having practice sessions
Hope he gets better
I think he will get better.
As an Anti Kyle Busch fan, I'm starting to feel bad for him since it's now been 1 year since he won in the Cup Series
Lack of practice hindered him big time
I wish it was possible for him to go back to Toyota
Every time KFB struggles, I always hear that one clip: “I suck just as bad as you!”
Bruh. That was two weeks ago lol
It is possible to see kyle win one more race this season, he broke richard petty record last year by winning races in 19 season, with richard petty winning seasons from 1960 to 1978, and kyle broke it from 2005 to 2023, so will he go for 20 seasons, I think kyle can do it, he might not make the playoffs, but don't count him out by winning a race this year.
Lack of practice since 2020 led to this guy's downfall
Absolutely it has!!!
He doesn’t need practice.
And the next gen has nerfed him as well
It's honestly so stupid that they don't allow practice. Steve Phelps does NOT know what he's doing
Doesn’t seem to be hurting the other drivers
One damning thing I heard from the booth last race was that the 8 team ran the EXACT same set up that they won with last win at this race. I think that is an indication that RCR, or at least the 8 team, got lazy. They were fast as hell in 2022 with Reddick and the first half of 2023 with Busch. We all know how every single race, teams learn and get better, but for whatever reason, the 8 ran the exact same setup as last year, which means they did not get better when everyone else around them did. What if they are approaching every race with the same standard? They use what worked in the past instead of innovating and being faster than last time like so many other teams.
Richard just doesn’t care anymore
@@BraydenBunch58 It's possible it could come down to poor leadership. But ultimately, if you are a crew chief and are content with just running the same speed you did last year, then that's a failure from the crew chief. You always have to strive to be better and faster. Coming to a race 1 year later with the exact same setup tells me the crew chief, war room at HQ, whoever it is that makes that decision, is content with running the same speed while everyone else around learns and gets faster.
They ran last year’s Hendrick setups at Richmond if I remember correctly
Using what worked in the past and never innovating? That's just RCR in general
At what race? There are mutliple races in this video. 😅😅
The problem with Kyle Busch is that he’s exactly the same racing driver as Sebastian Vettel. Both drivers liked oversteer under the condition that the car has rear end security. When they were given that, they’re just as good as any driver that came before them. Vettel’s security came from the blown diffuser from ‘09-‘13 and Kyle’s came from the fender flare from ‘06-‘18. While there was still flared fenders in ‘19-‘21, the 550hp wasn’t enough power for Kyle Busch to pitch the car into the slip angle he wanted in the middle of the corner (Johnson suffered from this as well but didn’t need nearly as much rear end security). Kyle tends to play catch-up with the throttle when the setup or car isn’t to his liking and feels the need to brake extremely late and get on the power early to the point that he’ll lift off the throttle on corner exists and kill his straight line speed (watch literally any track less than a mile and a half during practice). Vettel had a very aggressive V shaped racing line into many corners and while they both are short corner drivers (spending the least amount of time at the moment of rotation) they never were the best drivers to get the car settled in the middle of the corner which is why they both spun or lost the car in the middle of the corner more times than a Jeff Gordon or Alan Prost. Gordon and Prost never leaned on the tires as much as Vettel or Busch through corners and both had really good platforms (flat car) which produced a more evened out tire wear over a fuel run compared the Busch and Vettel. Although this a driving style analysis, RCR definitely has lost speed year over year in the next gen era and gets majority blame since they’re on the same tier as Hendrick. The lack of practice does mean that car feedback is limited for Busch (ironically I rate both Vettel and him on setup feedback) but they haven’t had a test in where they hit the setup for a specific type of track in awhile except for Gateway
As a fan of both drivers. This is correct.
@@slysupersonic it really is scary how similar they are😂😂😂
Wow, this is a great comparison that I never thought of. That makes a lot of sense.
Yes. The quick version of this comment is.... the "new car" has cost Busch. No one has lost the "back end" more than Busch. Nobody. For many reasons, the "new car".... sucks.
Great analysis that's totally on point.
I’m not trying to completely defend Kyle Busch, but some of the problem is his team. His cars are not as good as last year and his pit crew is constantly screwing him up. However, I feel the further we get into the season, the more of a problem it is on the driver.
Frustration is obviously building
Thinking about it, what are the chances that Denny wants a 3rd charter for a guy like Kyle? I know there are options on the table, but what are the chances that 23XI pulls him from RCR?
I don’t think it’s impossible but pretty unlikely. It be interesting to see tho
Great idea. he needs to be back in a Toyota.
It could be possible but they're probably looking at the future. Also keep in mind 23XI probably won't get a third charter because the third car is gonna be Hamlin but he's working on winning the championship with JGR first.
I'd say the chances are zero because if rumors are true, Riley Herbst is going to 23XI. The rumor is his family is trying to help purchase the charter.
The same reason we all thought Harvick was only a good not a great driver while at RCR. It’s all about equipment and team chemistry.
Talk to people in the industry they said that Kyle Bush was one of the best dialing in the car in practice in the last 20+ years. Also, no matter how good of a driver you are you can’t drive a slow car. lol I think it’s showing how much Childress racing has fallen off.
RCR hasn't been good in Cup since Dale died.
1. He hasn’t figured out this car yet
2. RCR is a mediocre team
3. No practice
I don’t think he’s lost the ability to drive. I think you can look at guys like Hamlin and see that there was a dip in production for a couple years and then it ascended. Kyle will need better equipment to be the 2019 version, but that doesn’t seem like a possibility…unless Hendrick dumps Bowman.
RFK is likely getting a third charter. Maybe we see a surprise silly season move. This silly season is gonna be chaotic to say the least.
Except the difference is Hamlin still needs to win a championship though where as Kyle Busch already has enough.
Lack of practice and racing for RCR’s Cup program is the problem.
I don’t blame him for being mad and frustrated (except him intentionally wrecking Stenhouse)
He needs to get out of RCR. Even if (I have no idea how long his contract is), say Penske, 23XI, and MAYBE JGR if MTJ retires offer to buy him out. Toyota/JGR bought Chandler Smith out of a multi-year Kaulig Racing Chevy contract.
@@nascar4842 Penske unlikely and Kaulig, no…
@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT I meant that Kaulig Racing had Chandler Smith signed on a multi-year deal when he joined the Xfinity Series and that Toyota and JGR bought Chandler out. I meant that if Kyle became a free agent, if a team wanted him bad enough, they would get him.
@@nascar4842 but Kaulig’s Cup program sucks
@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT OH. Yeah, that would be a step in the wrong direction. The only other bold prediction that he could go is RFK. Depending on how if Brad wants to pursue Justin Haley or is able to get 2 charters.
From my observation as a fan of his, it's a mix bag of what has gone wrong this season. 1) Pit road issues whether it be the crew, Randall making the wrong adjustments or Kyle speeding have affected the results. 2) Having no normal practice has hurt his ability to really dial in and work on the car like he was used to prior to 2020. He can still wheel a Truck or Xfinity car with no issues, but this Next-Gen car has presented some challenges mostly to the veteran drivers who don't have a lot of tools to work with compared to the Gen 6 car. It has been frustrating to watch each week and it's gotten to him badly. I want him to keep that win streak alive but unless changes are made, I don't see it happening :/
We need to bring back practice. Not saying it’s everything but honestly if it’s a top tier motorsport why don’t you have practice sessions? And why do we have a gimmick style points system?
As a lifelong Kyle Busch fan, I’ll tell you why: Father time. He’s nearly 40 and he hasn’t won in the playoffs since 2020. And without great equipment and his clutch nature of years past, he’s shown his age even more than before.
Ur not a fan then. He still has the talent but this car is horrible and does not fit his style of driving (being loose) and making aggressive moves, which he can’t do because you can’t pass anybody
@MoonRacing23 bro what? Age absolutely is a factor. Does that take away from what he accomplished in his prime ? Certainly not, and it’s not like he’s horrible or anything but it does look like his championship contending days are behind him
I feel like people are quick to forget how big some of the hits NASCAR drivers take and how it can affect their health and performance short and long term. Short off-seasons, raising a family, running a race team and running as many races as Nascar let him for 20 years will takes it toll on anyone.
@@MoonRacing23 Kyle always complains about not being able to pass with this car, but how many times have we seen other drivers start at the rear to start the race and by the end of stage 1 are top 10 or at least top 12? A LOT. It's not as impossible to pass with this car if you're fast enough. RCR equipment is just garbage. Guaranteed, if he had worked out something to stay at JGR, he would still be performing much better.
Harvick was dominating the series at the same age
The whole Childress is going downhill. Look at Dillon too.
I know fans like to trash him, but a regular playoff contender all of a sudden, inexplicably running outside the top 30, is a major cause of alarm. Dillon isn't *that* bad. There are much deeper issues going on at RCR, and it starts at the top with Richard. I personally think the culture there is a toxic one. Most drivers always seem to leave there angrily or seem to get angrier and moodier the longer they're there. And that is endemic of Richard's arrogant attitude. RCR has done nothing outside of Earnhardt's success, but Richard thinks he's the shit because of it. He's too old and stubborn to reflect on himself at this point, so nothing will change. He's NASCAR's Jerry Jones at this point
@@DepravedCoTApologist I don't think it's a toxic culture, I just think RCR has fallen behind the times in terms of technology. Much like Roush until Keselowski joined the team.
@@DepravedCoTApologistYeah Dillon showed he still has it at Gateway. The fact that Kyle Busch is running 15th and Dillon 30th every week is cause for all the alarm bells to be ringing.
@@jovazquez6102except Dillon clearly never had it and won't have it any time soon either.
@@DepravedCoTApologistI don't think it's a toxic culture. If you watch both Xfinity Series and Cup Series races every week, you can see RCR is way more invested in their Xfinity Series program than the Cup Series program.
To me at least, the single biggest damaging thing is NASCAR killing the extra practices. They are idiots because teams AND drivers need practice to improve equiptment and race craft. The optimism in me wants to believe tht since last year around this time was when this slump started and hasnt improved. I want to believe he and RCR can dig their way out and compete again like the first half of last year. Only time will tell. For a key partner elite Chevy team RCR can be so much better than they have shown.
feel like its the pit crew. dont think he fell off. still wins in trucks multiple times so i dont think his racing senses are no longer tingling
Go with me on this but I'm spotting a small trend
RCR has preduced some of the most agro driver's ever from dale sr to Kevin harvick to now kyle Busch and austin hill hell even papa childress has been willing and has gotten in fights.
So my theory childress has made a work environment that is unstable and toxic that all starts at the top
Now I'm not saying thats the only reason as to why kyle is slipping but I don't think rcr is helping and may be the primary reason why kyle has been getting more unstable
And i hope no pray that gragson doesn't end up at rcr as that just won't end well
From what others say, I have a feeling that a lack of practice is a reason
This year I see kyle and Fernando Alonso as very similar both are 2 time champions driving cars incapable of winning and are often times pushing the car harder than it will allow due to both their expectations of themselves being higher and their emotions taking over, and both have a teammate who is only there due to being related to the team owner.
I dont know but its really depressing. I went from always being excited to watch him race but ever since the Darlington truck race I've just kinda lost hope.
If I were to compare Kyle Busch's 2020 season (15 Starts in) to this season, here are his stats:
2020 - 0 Wins, 7 Top 5s, 8 Top 10s, 1 Pole, Led 130 Laps, 2 DNFs, An Average Start of 9.93, An Average Finish of 14.73, and was 11th in the Final Standings at the Time.
2024 - 0 Wins, 2 Top 5s, 5 Top 10s, 1 Pole, Led 130 Laps, 1 DNF, An Average Start of 15.1, An Average Finish of 17.2, and is Currently 17th in the Points Standings.
As you can see:
Busch has the Same Amount of Wins (0), Same Number of Poles (1), and Same Number of Laps Led (130) in 2020.
Unfortunately, he also has Less Top 5s (2), Less Top 10s (5), A Worse Average Start (15.1), A Worse Average Finish (17.2), and A Lower Points Position (17th) than 2020.
The only "bright spot" is DNFs (1), which is 50% Less than 2020.
Kyle's been on the rotten side of luck like Jimmie Johnson. When they ever had a good day and were in contention, luck then yeets them.
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I think it's a combination of a lack of practice and him being in lower equipment than JGR. RCR isn't on the same level as JGR, Hendrick, Penske, etc. I also think that maybe Richard Childress, Austin Dillion and Kyle Busch thought they could do a RFK scenario and turn the race team around to be a championship contending team once again. With that not really coming to fruition, everyone may be frustrated.
I think the biggest reason is he went from JGR to RCR. Simply put, their cars aren't on the same level.
He won the same number of races in his first 15 races with RCR as he did in his last two years with Gibbs.
Who’s here after he crashed in the Indy test
Me
I'm a Kyle Busch fan so you might wanna take whatever I say with a pinch of salt, but I think there's a number of reasons. For starters I just don't think RCR are anywhere near as good as they were 12 months ago and have regressed dramatically since the start of the next gen era, that and also I'll admit and accept that I think Busch's prime is behind him.
I still have faith he can get a win, that's all I really want or expect going into a season anymore, but as for championships I think that ship has sailed. I just want him to turn it around man.
Remember kyle’s 2020? It was really bad, But he got a win at Texas anyway. Just have a little bit of hope left
@@BraydenBunch58 that's what I'm hoping for, just 1 single win would be success for me now, hopefully he can pop off and have another great season where he wins more than once like Gordon did in 2014 or something, but that's probably asking for too much. Either way I just want him to be able to win to keep the season win streak alive.
Busch is trash very overrated always has been
@@Alex-dc5mx There’s no way you actually think that
@@BraydenBunch58I do he’s a childish sore loser man child and dirty racer my favorite drivers were far better
Kyle's problem is that he only drives the cup car anymore. Look at Larson, he drives everything he can. The more seat time a driver can get, the better. That's why guys like Parnelli Jones, Mario Andretti, Mark Donohue and AJ Foyt were so good, they drove every chance they had. I think that's a big part of it
This is going to sound awful but as a Kyle Busch fan I believe it now since 2020 it’s been a steady decline but I feel like it was a mix of bad luck just down times every driver has those but since his daughter was born and Brexton started racing outside of the first 15 or so races with RCR it has been a sharper downhill than before so I honestly think his family growing and him spending more time with them has contributed to his downfall. If you put 2021 Kyle Busch even in this RCR car I expect similar results to what Reddick had in 2022
I'm glad you did this video Jarett because it needs to be discussed. He's clearly frustrated and he's thinking with his emotions instead of his skill and it's showing more and more..
Bro just crashed in a test in indy also. Kyle going through it this year.
I think Rowdy, more than any other driver, gets very frustrated very quickly when things start to go sour. As someone who has watched his career from the very beginning, I think he's very super emotional and it's a double edged sword for him. When he's running good it's a benefit to him but when he's running like he has this season it actually becomes a hinderance. Who knows for sure?
Busch is overrated trash he's a never was
@@Alex-dc5mx While you may not personally care for him theres no other way to say it then he is one of the greatest drivers in the entire history of nascar. So, yeah. You're wrong there bud.
He's driving like he did when he was at Hendrick... Too many repair bills... Probably needs to hit the gym more than I used to. Look at Fernando Alonso at age 42 now, he changed his diet and workout, he's back to one of the best drivers in F1 again. And, Busch might need to work on his mindset as well.
Come on home to Toyota, Kyle. 23XI may have a ride
My thoughts here 1. RCR is a B level team. 2. Bush is getting older and losing his edge. 3. Bush has regressed to to the days behaving like 5 year old like he did way back and ultimately hurting himself .
Practice and limiting of how many Xfinity/Truck races you can run a year led to this. As talented as he is, this shows he doesnt have the RAW talent and needs to find the right setup instead of playing with what he has. Not saying hes a bad driver persay, but he aint as good as what we thought he was, and the removal of 2 things proved that
Then he goes and crashes at Indy dangit man
Im calling it now, and 23xi gets a SHR Charter, Kyle Busch leaves RCR for 23xi
there’s no way Kyle’s going to 23XI, let alone back to Toyota
Busch does not like the "new car." For example, he loses the back end more than anyone. No one should like the new car. It's a step backward in every area. It downright sucks, and all they do is make excuses for it.
I'm not sure a single driver likes it, some of just been far more vocal about it, from Kyle's Walmart car comment to Christopher Bell's "gutless engines" to Denny Hamlin being concerned about the safety before it even hit the track, nobody likes these cars.
I think Kyle Busch can be competitive again because we've seen what he can do when he has good stuff and is motivated he's the scariest guy on this race track. In oder to make him relevant again he has to be willing to make some serious changes and realize that he has to be open to finding other solutions than waiting for a change from NASCAR. Kyle needs to leave RCR it's apparent that they are not a team that can be contenders and rely too much on him trying to be a leader of that team. I think a team like 23XI is perfect since he's back with Toyota and they are near or at the level of Joe Gibbs Racing which is really competitive right now. He also needs to stop letting his emotions get to him and focus more on succeeding in each race which will help him get better results. I think we've these changes Kyle can put himself in a better position and while maybe not on the level he was before he will be closer to his 2015-2019 era. Being a KB fan I've seen the many downs but also the up's that come with it.
Busch is overrated trash
@@Alex-dc5mx Still has talent you may not see it every week now but when he's on he's on.
At least my boy Brad is doing good
Not being with JGR Eventually exposed KFB's flaws that by his standards are Worse than Corey Harris' Decision to Court Zoom while Driving With A Suspended License
man as a life long kb fan it really is sad to see the decline of his career, a lot of is definitely from rcr just not being competitive at all anymore even though it looked like they would be, as well as still having no real practice which for a veteran driver like him who was used to it for his entire career is a huge disadvantage. Unfortunately tho I do believe some of it is just Kyle himself beginning to regress a little as a driver and all of these mixed together have simply ruined his career
Did anyone really expect him to perform to Gibbs standards at Childress given his age?
I think Kyle Busch should go to 23XI mainly due to the fact they are most likely better than RCR
There was that option Kyle said he never went in detail why rumors were 1 year deal
@@dang5553 interesting
I really hate how in the last 15 years if someone has a slump people act like they will never get out of it. This kind of thinking is not helping.
Honestly think the Larson incident, he was seemingly defensive against a hit to his corner which visibly had him fish tailing at high speed, then larson’s car goes loose and puts him in the wall. The contact at the start by Larson could have actually put Busch in a wreck had he not caught it so it honestly was just some push back in my eyes to that contact
Exactly, i was watching the in-car camera, and KB definitely made a nice save. Larson was getting frustrated after not being able to clear after 4 laps. The whole Penske team passed the 8 with no problems but not that lil guy in the #5. Busch wasnt blocking anyone, he was trying to stay in top 10 for points and got wrecked by a guy who overused his tires and spun out.
I think it was similar to the Hornaday incident in his mind. He's just had months of disappointment and just lets it boil over
I was expecting this kind of season last year.
THIS IS MAKING ME CRY DAY BY DAY!!!!!!!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Kyle Busch will win Richmond and Michigan back to back.
It's rcr paying him back for all the shit he put harvick through.
Lol yeah sure. After the way the Harvick-RCR relationship ended on a sour note, I'm pretty sure RCR stopped giving a damn about Harvick after he left the team.
@zachwalentiny still funny that Richard supposedly put kyle in a headlock, now he's his boss🤷🏼♂️🤣
Richard Childress let Kevin Harvick have the old number 29 for the All-Star race last year and ran some Harvick tribute throwbacks on the Xfinity teams.
Question is what team would Kyle go to if he was to leave RCR?
KB is 39. I'm 41. I am nowhere near the physical fitness of a professional athlete, but I generally take care of myself. The difference between my 20's and 30's and then my 30's and 40's is drastic! It takes a hell of a lot more effort to stay in shape, keep the pounds off, and not to mention mental acuity and quickness. I'm sure that KB's problems have to do with RCR in large part, but the age factor has to be part of it.
If he didn't have to leave Gibbs he would have had a win by now.
Gibbs got rid of him to put TY
GIBBS in it got on put it together
It’s really sad to see this, He’s in his veteran years. I hope he gets a win eventually and maybe be like his brother in his later years. I hope it doesn’t end like this
He has his wins and two championships and he has a huge amount of talent. Makes me feel old as hes only two years older than me. Every driver has had "slump" seasons. Whether its team, age, rules package, new car or just ready to do something else other than racing, only time will tell.
Kyle Busch still my driver ROWDY NATION
Why do u like no talent overrated sore loser crybabies
In other words Kyle Busch
I think he will retire after this season. Sold his house, his race team, and energy drink company. RIP Rowdy
When did he sell Rowdy Energy, was it recent? Hadn't heard. A shame they had really good drinks 😢.
@schalitz1 Shut it down earlier this year. Apparently they found metal shavings in so.e of the drinks. And I think rather than fight and try to survive the PR nightmare that would be... it just would be less stress to just get rid of it. Amazon still has some. There is news articles on it if you wanna read up on it.
It is possible to see kyle win one more race this season, he broke richard petty record last year by winning races in 19 season, with richard petty winning seasons from 1960 to 1978, and kyle broke it from 2005 to 2023, so will he go for 20 seasons, I think kyle can do it, he might not make the playoffs, but don't count him out by winning a race this year.
Well he just wrecked at Indianapolis...
This feels like when the Labontes were driving Go Fast and JTG cats 💀
Kyle Busch's 2024 Season is proof that Even The Very Best are guaranteed the burden of a Career Slump
I'm honestly shocked there's no mention of Rowdy Energy possibly being a factor.
I dont think hes regressing. RCR has been absolute shit in the cup. Dillon was like 30th in points a lot of the year. Kyles pit crew shits the bed nearly every week as well. He was going to have a solid day at the 600 until it rained out, and his car at gateway would have been a top 10 car as well. Its a combo of bad luck and a few mistakes from the driver, but big mistakes by the pit crew.
The NexGen car is driving Kyle, not Kyle driving the NexGen car.
Kyle mastered a “loose” chassis and “sloppy” tires.
No rapid decline, adaptation to the new reality of the NexGen design vs his command of the car.
There’s a number of problems with RCR and I think Kyle is just fed up. He’s just as talented as ever though
1. Numerous times throughout the year Kyle gave feedback on the car and Randall made the opposite adjustment of what was needed
2. Pit crew shoots themselves in the foot every other stop (Daytona, Atlanta, Vegas, charlotte to name a few)
3. WHY DID THEY RUN THE EXACT SAME GATEWAY SETUP AS LAST YEAR????? Clearly not evolving
4. Austin Dillon, you gotta go! You’re trash 9/10 weeks
5. Overall trash racecars. What happened at Darlington? Why was that car so bad? Richmond… same story. Phoenix too. Those were some of Kyle’s best tracks before and now… nothing
6. Touching on the last point, why is the short track package so bad (except la for some reason) Bristol, Phoenix, Richmond, and Martinsville were all mid pack cars at best.
4:15 that’s Primarily Rick Hendrick And Keith Rodden’s Fault. Rick Never Cared For Kasey And Gave Trash Cars And A Terrible Crew I Know Some Will Disagree But That’s Just How I Feel But Then Again Rick Is Known For Having More Blood In His Stomach Than His Brain
Anyone think that he's just burned out? I mean, he's been doing this long enough that maybe he's just not enjoying it like he used to. Running two or all 3 races in one weekend was great when he was in his early 20s but he might just need some time away from the track to rekindle that spark.
If Kyle decides to leave, He’ll probably end up at Spire driving whatever is available. If they get another charter. Maybe Hocevar goes to RCR to take the 8 and KB takes the 77. Or maybe frontrow MTS? Either way. I think Busch is never winning another championship. Definitely not unless Richard Childress sells his shitty wine business and puts every dime into getting SHR’s finest to working on Kyle’s cars and how to make them fast without making their own chassis
Kyle is in decline because he left arguably the mose powerful team in NASCAR for a has been former 7 time championchip team. Jack Roush was 100% correct.
It’s funny that you posted this as he just crashed in the Indy Goodyear test
Kyle Busch really need a stable rear end so he can drive the car with oversteer. This car is unforgiving. If you slip the car too much, you spin out.
Kyle is used to winning races and competing for championships, and he has a tendency to just get frustrated and sort of ragequit.
I think the lack of practice in 2020, Stevens leaving for Bell in 2021, and now being in mediocre RCR equipment has continued to frustrate him until he kinda says "fuck it" and tries to drive the wheels off the car, until he wrecks it.
Listening to the radio he just sounds exasperated. He actually had good speed for the first 5-7 races but no luck, then the speed fell off, and now he's just stuck running 15th every race, which to him, he'd rather be in the garage having left everything on the table than finishing 15th
If you truly think about it. Denny Hamlin is the new Mark Martin.
Absolutely not. Mark Martin isn't a whiny arrogant prick.
@@cdmit27 production wise not their personalities dingus pingus
I think it's the team. RCR seems way more invested in Xfinity Series right now compared to the Cup Series. And it shows on track if you watch every week. And Kyle probably feels his team was abandoned and just lashing out.
Also Jaret, would you have the same attitude if Dale Jr. had a similar drop???
Busch out performs in the RCR equipment. RCR is not on top of any pit crew game what-so-ever. They just don't have horsepower to the wheels of the top teams. It does not look like "good-old-boy" Richard Childress is going to step up (outside of his ego) to what it takes to get there either.. I think he might move on.. He has been seen at Hendricks in recent weeks. I'd sooner guess that JR Motorsports has picked up (2) of the SHR Charters in cup... Would not surprise me to see Josh Berry and Kyle Busch show up in those cars next year. Or one of the other (2) charters elsewhere...
1. The car, it’s doggy doo doo. We know Kyle is capable of having great seasons. Even after his 2019 championship he still was good, just not to KB standards. But let’s be honest RCR and same with many teams got a jump with the nex gen which is why they were good. It’s different now, the cream has risen to the top where on a week to week basis the same teams are towards the front. What I’m trying to say is Kyle is still good, just a bad car. He also ain’t even that old. We’re acting like when you’re 40 plus you lose the ability to drive a car lol. It’s nothing compared to stick and ball.
I hope he figures it out. NASCAR is way better when he’s good.
If you told me in 2012 I would be rooting for Kyle Busch I would laugh in your face. Yet, Here we are
His recent run-ins with Stenhouse and Larson tell me he still the same hothead he's always been or, RCR is so dogshit that it's making him lose his sanity. Could be both.
IMHO its a combination of issues for KB. Almost a Perfect Storm of issues of age, lack of practice and lack of the ability to fine tune the Next Gen car setups.
Pre Next Gen car, all drivers got to practice enough to really fine tune to their liking. The Next Gen car has a lot of setup features for a at best semi rough setup. But due to the extremely cut and dried must purchase and use NASCAR erector set parts limits fine tuning that they once had. I really felt that KB wasn't taking to the new car right from the get-go. KB seemed to be more sensitive to the all the changes than the other drivers were.
And to make a point of this. Dale Earnhardt had a huge slump way back when too. Its well known that Sr. hated tire testing and rarely tested his cars, paying Dave Marcus to be his primary personal tester. During the slump my Dad asked me, what's up with Earnhardt? My answer back to him was "radial tires". The cars handled very differently when going from bias ply to radials. And Dale had a difficult time with radials for a while. Did Dale test on radials? I dont know, I would guess that he did at some point. Dale seemed to be more bothered by the radial transition then other drivers were. But being the Intimidator, he adjusted and went on to win races on radials.
What's wrong with Kyle Busch? He started driving for that Richard Childress clownshow! Anymore questions?
Lack of practice definitely plays into it, but to be good you have to continue to adapt to changes. That’s consistent across all sports. I really hope Busch can bounce back somewhat, but I lose hope more and more every race weekend. Especially with the lackluster equipment RCR is giving him.
His luck has ran out. It happens to most of the greats. DW's luck ran out years before he left the sport. Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson's luck just ran out, and so did Dick Petty's. One day - it's just gone and you ain't getting that mojo back.
Before his team switch, it could be a multitude of factors, it could also be maybe that Joe just wanted his grandson (and or his father) to be in cup, so they gave him not so great equipment to race, he started to fall off, team switch, that gave Joe Gibbs a reason to replace him with his grandson. And switching over to RCR was a good idea, the RCR team just hasn't been a front runner ever since Kevin Harvick. At least that's my theory; Like I said, a multitude of theories but that's what I think that comes to mind when it talks about his performance so far
I think many will say stevens and Busch were awesome together. Like Tim Brewer n Bill Elliott like Hammond n Waltrip. So why in your mind would you break them up. I don’t see stevens winning a championship soon
Was too aggressive in last race and should've backed off, long race ! Second, his team sucks ass and they don't have any speed ANYWHERE!