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2016 PC Games Hardware interview with Chris: th-cam.com/video/9pBUeZ2CTvk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4H_gG6W8CK3N-9SM
Also, what amazes me is that the sun is just a yellow-colored ball... Even in Indie games, the sun looks like the sun, like a gas giant. And not just a ball.
@@vladkudrya9615 No, the sun in Star Citizen is not a ball.
It is a low poly disc, see: th-cam.com/video/aA9WB6rbMa8/w-d-xo.html
@@Camural 1 billion dollars...
update of planets and atmospheres has been released in No man sky, perhaps you should compare what this game and SC have. I'm already tired of people who repeat the same thing over and over again that not one other game has what SC has.
Coming back to that 2016 video almost a decade later is _rough_ , buddy. Listening to Roberts talk about one of his then competitors then seeing how every major contemporary (ie Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky, and X4) from the start of the Space Game Renaissance has excelled while CIG putters along is something. It's even worse in the case of No Man's Sky, a game that failed, built itself back up, and succeeded, while CIG is still working out how to get the training wheels off.
He talks a good game, but the reality is that CIG has never learned to plan how anything is going to work or fit together and has as a result has blown vast quantities of money to accomplish very little. I think their last chance to fix it was 3 years later in 2019 when they used a year to make a roadmap that then failed spectacularly. They needed to ask themselves hard questions about why they couldn't plan even a couple months out after 'building tools and a foundation' for 7+ years, but instead they took the easy way out and blamed the people who noticed how badly they were failing as 'roadmap watchers'. It's not the fault of the people who have given them a billion dollars and near 13 years that they can't deliver what they promised us would take a maximum of 65 million and be ready far sooner at a far higher quality level.
@@RN1441 No hard questions are needed when your source of funding is a bunch of "backers" that are literally giving you a BILLION $$ of free money with NO STRINGS ATTACHED! Absolute crazy sauce how such a large number of people have been willing to sink so *so* much money into literally nothing but a tech demo with some very *very* basic gameplay.
Facts. No mans sky was cold hotdog water. I am very pleased with the direction they took, and they did it in less time than CIG.
I like the ED's approach - it gave us a game
@AnotherOne-Retro-Paladin I find it extremely disturbing that Chris claimed in 2016 he is building Star Citizen right from the start, like you would build a castle.
While in realty, CIG in year 13 still has no plan,. no concept, it just making stuff up.
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Braben was why i was confident in that we would get a game. He had coded a solar system galaxy simulator in assembler by himself before for ffe and had lots of time to think after that what compromises multiplayer would need to get a game out.
And sure its a space trucker sim but thats what elite is all about
Chris is the Master of Refactoring... icache, anyone?
In software... It's always best to start off small and manageable... But leave just enough infrastructure in place so that new features can be added in seamlessly at a later date! Christ Roberts BIG mistake was to try and start off BIG! And not enough adequate infrastructure was left in place, to accommodate the ZILLIONS more features that they want to add later on!
So the worst of BOTH worlds!
You should be modding Starfield.
Im not even mad about the delays.
Im super mad about the stuff that's been taken away or made worse.
spot on
Yep, they are now making a bog standard survival craft MMO in space and removing/watering down all the actual space sim features.
@@senn4237 this... search for "star citizen crafting" and you wont find ANYTHING before 2022ish, with the first ever mentions to be the recycle components that could turn to multi tools... now we have ship crafting...
@@senn4237 All those people, all this time, and all this money...and all we have to show for it is a basic foundation for a half-assed version of Rust in space.
It's fun how Chris mocks Elite for not having foundations.
And then Benoit explicitly says they need to rewrite half of SC, because foundations were done wrong.
@SolarWindsRider I would go further: Chris and CIG never had a plan and a foundation for Star Citizen.
It is a fragile castle build on sand. And now they have to, once again, knock it all over and start new.
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@@Camural i am also very sure to remember Chris mocking No Mans Sky on his podium for procedual generation, that was back in the day when they said every planet, station & settlement will be "hand crafted"....a few years later they went procedual generation and copy & paste...
@@SolarWindsRider Benoit said the reason the transit and elevators are always bugged is because the servers can’t keep up with all the entities spread around from player to player, depending on what they’re doing in the game😭😭 yeah no shit. Tell us something we don’t know. Instead of saying how they’re gonna fix the problem. They just resort to platitudes where they’re gonna investigate this. They’re gonna investigate that but no actual solutions because there are none shy of stripping the platform and building a new one.
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Our group just started playing ED due to the current SC issues. We have been having a great time. I hope CIG can pull it together. Until we see some progress no more money from us for Chris.
Welcome to ED, commanders.
Welcome to the galaxy CMDRs. O7
LoL Chris Talking about Elite Dangerous is golden... One project actually became a great game and seems to be able to add features yet retain a stable environment. Forget base building, elite is adding Solar system architects with colonization of the replica milky way and its 400 billion solar systems in a few weeks... XD
I`d bet Elite add`s ship interiors before SC gets crafting. Elite has such an amazing foundation to work with. Sc is Eye candy where the bugs from the eye candy kill you. lol Refactor Chris Refactor Refactor Refactor then maby one day...
All this. And honestly, when you drop out of hyperspace and you're staring at Sag A* is a moment SC, despite all its beauty, has never replicated.
No black holes in the 5 planned systems for 1.0, no blue supergiants, no lava planets like Pyro was supposed to have...sure the things that SC does have are prettier but the whole "mile wide and inch deep" argument often launched against Elite starts to fall apart when your own game is like 200 feet wide and only 2 inches deep to compensate.
@@austinm5630 So true. Elite has plenty of extremely pretty moments that pop up when exploring throught the verse... The systems with multiple suns and pulsars.. I love it.. Its got a galaxy thats only been .06% explored by players... After all these years thats freeking phenominal. The alien race is super uniqe, pretty and the sounds are out of this world!
I took a break from elite to dive into star citizen partially based on star citizen sites being "hand made". That ended up being bullshit, most places feel the same. How long to get a real explorable universe in SC, 10-20 years? Chris R had no idea what he was doing game wise, still doesnt I think. Hell of a marketer tho. He litterally had to buy code from a different game engine to start and there obiously confused on how to fix 5 year old bugs. lol
Im glad I checked out SC for a bit tho, coming back to elite dangerous, I honestly appreciate it 100x more now. Quality is so important.
Looks like Elite is adapting to Sc`s marketing model, just not as scummy, good for them..
Now Sc needs to catch upto Elites game play model, mm give me thoes vibes. Good luck Chris Robbers there ahead of you by a decade. lol
Sold all my ships last month, and so glad I did.
how?
@@user-hq9fp8sm8f look into star hangar, the impound, or others.
Tips on how you did that? Looking to get out of my “investment”
Y'all should be scared. In a three-hour interview, Benoit couldn't pinpoint the difference between and game dev Engineer and a game dev programmer and proceeded to say they could be interchangeable to him. He then went on to repeatedly say they didn't have enough expertise to assign different projects at once. A billion dollars, a lack of experts, and only now a focus on fixing bugs. But they neither have the brain-power, nor the institutional knowledge to understand the systems creating and hiding the bugs.
Wowzers.
They admitted to only looking toward making features to attract new wallets. Wild.
CIG presents themselves as making a game that requires simultaneously solving extremely different problems over several interconnected but different domains of specialization, then proceeds to hire a gaggle of low priced inexperienced developers to do it. Solving hard let alone hard and interconnected problems requires experienced specialists but CIG is mostly throwing code at the wall. You can also tell their leadership structure is profoundly broken as their ship throughput hasn't budged at all even while they've hired several hundred more people and even as their 'tools' and 'pipelines' were finished. All that effort and a couple guys bouncing derailed the banu merchantman, twice.
I think you’re missing the point. The distinction between a Software Engineer and a Programmer can be subtle, and in many cases, the roles overlap, which is why Benoit might have found them interchangeable. He wasn’t confused, he was emphasizing how these roles blend in practice. In a complex system, it’s less about job titles and more about expertise in specific areas. From his perspective as a system architect, it makes sense to see them as interchangeable.
As for the lack of expertise, that’s a fair concern, but it's not unusual in large-scale projects. Game development at this level isn't just about fixing bugs. It is about managing evolving systems, many of which were likely built with trade-offs that make debugging difficult. That is not a lack of brain power. It is the reality of working with massive, interconnected systems.
As a programmer myself, I know that sometimes there’s no distinction at all. If you see a difference Benoit missed, could you pinpoint it for me?
“Experts”
Maybe with a few more Billion $$ and 2 decades of dev work we can get the v5.0.0!!
@@zsavior4535 Chris is clueless he had to text on stream to realise logins don’t work as he doesn’t play his own mess of a game. I’m not sure adding actual experts could help this mess of the leader ship is only focused on making chrises on rails single player game so he can tell his wing commander story and get to meet a few famous people on our dime.
Even hardcore fans can't deny the lack of progress anymore. The last four years were extremely frustrating and on top of that we got the Squadron is two years away message.
Oooh they definitely can, white knights are a special kind 😂
SC has no foundation
It is like building a castle out of sand
Nah a sand castle is more stable
Elite actually got finished while SC is still in alpha and more expensive lol
"We're gonna make the most complex game of all time!" (CIG).
Despite having no one capable of leading the most complex game's development..
Seems Elite Dangerous did know what they were doing.
Als Backer der "ERSTEN STUNDE"", mit hohem Einsatz an Glaube, Hoffnung und Geld, ist meine Geduld erschöpft!
Ab und an schaue ich bei den einschlägigen Content Creator in DE und EN rein und stelle fest: - Jahr für Jahr die gleiche Schei.....!
und,- ich kann es nicht mehr hören
Was für ein geiles Spiel das hätte sein können, wenn sie beim Konzept der ersten Stunde geblieben wären!
Wir alle m8... wir alle...
@@Whitedust91 Das ganze Debakel hat rückblickend glaube ich seinen Lauf genommen, als man anfing über planetare Landung zu fantasieren, was Ende 2016 dazu geführt hat das ich mit noch recht großen Augen zum Projekt dazugestoßen bin.
Man hätte sich durchaus erstmal vornehmen können ein vielleicht ordentlich funktionierendes "Freelancer2.0" zu machen, bevor man Jahre später die ganzen anderen Extras dazuschustert...um erstmal unter Beweis zu stellen das man als Softwareschmiede in der Lage ist ein komplettes fertiges Produkt auf den Markt zu bringen.
Ich hatte über die Jahre vereinzelt immer wieder mal leise Zweifel ob CIG sich da nicht doch zuviel vorgenommen hat...und 2019 beim Concierge Event in Frankfurt war ich auch etwas verwundert das es eher wie eine glorifizierte Werbeaktion für die AEGIS Nautilus (Minenleger) gewirkt hat...allerdings hat es bis 2021 gedauert bis ich durch etwaige andere Vorgänge wie u.a. den Forbes Bericht und Videosammlung wie "Sunk Cost Galaxy" auf TH-cam angefangen habe an CIGs Fähigkeiten oder gar Ehrlichkeit gegenüber den Supportern/Backern zu zweifeln.
4.0 is 7 years late, and brokie as an indie alpha development
The current foundation is Cryengine. No amount of coping or renaming changes this FACT.
I was stupid too, brother. But I feel you are not yet free. WHY would you EVER put more money into CIG, regardless of what improves? Do you feel the game is worth thousands of dollars? Elden Ring is 60 dollars.
We all need to get our heads screwed on straight. 60 bucks is the limit for a game. Don't let companies sell you games in parts, and don't convince yourself that it's a reasonable chunk of your entertainment budget. It's addiction. Stop.
I dont ever remember this interview with Chris at 3:50 but holy shit did that age badly for him
Yeah lol E:D has all those things he mentioned and SC is nowhere close
That bit with Chris at 3:50 is incredibly idiotic. The most distilled form of gaslighting. It's disgusting.
That interview of Chris didn't really sound like he was talking about the same game we have now.
The latest stream was cool but scary at the same time, they basically said that nothing works with the new code of SM and there is a lot of loose ends just breaking everything else
Makes you sick to your stomach to realize how many dollars and man hours are wasted away, never to be had again. You aren't going to raise another billion, nor even half that.
The man who gave you the dream, is dreaming. And he's not going to wake up, is he?
As long as CR is there in charge, this project will not become what we so fervently hoped it would.
Chris, please...kill the console idea altogether, hire the most experienced person or persons to guide the next 2-3 yrs as Game Directors, and you go off with you and yours to make the movies that are obviously in your head.
Stop using our dollars to build your own personal movie production studios all over the world. I want a game to play, not a feature film. We paid for SC. Not to secure the financial futures of the Chris Roberts family.
Its mind boggling that after 13 years and a billion dollars, devs are still using the "we don't have the resources" excuse . What has management been doing ??
50th times they tell us they will "slow down" or change the process in some ways to improve quality of releases lol. Anyone believing that must be an idiot. Benoit took over the gaslighting role of Tony. That's what needs to be remembered from this.
-$777.75m from funding tracker
-$63.25m from Calders' share purchases (in 2018 and 2020)
-$98m from Subscriptions and Other Income (upto end of 2022) adding to $939m (not including Subscriptions and Other Income in 2023 & 2024
No one working at cig knows how to develop such a complex game
Stop wasting your money
I keep saying all over Spectrum, "Less artists, MORE NERDS!" Bring on the coders, the GAME makers!
@@markcritic2409 They all left.
3:44 - oh, the hypocrisy. 🤔
Started playing Elite Dangerous again two weeks ago after not playing SC for a year, and what a joy Elite has become. I'm full of self loathing for all the money I wasted on Star Citizen. Chris has a vision and dream that is only ever going to exist in his head.
Chris reminds me of Steve Jobs - he has an idea in his head of what he wants the thing to look like but he can't put it into words, so his employees keep throwing new designs of the same phone at the wall over and over praying one will finally satisfy their god but all that changes in the price keeps going up for customers just to get a barely-improved version of last year's functionless paper weight.
Then Jobs died and now they spent a decade just barely figuring out how to make the brick look pretty again, because Jobs didn't write his plan in his head down.
Chris is not a young man. I hope he lives a long life but if something happens tomorrow, I am not even sure if that would be good or bad for the game. Is he the one keeping the ship afloat or the one constantly running it aground? I think maybe both now.
this project is what happens when you foster such a bad work environment that you have a high staff turnover and no one left knows how to turn the lights on anymore
Preach it, brother.
Science and research. It’s slides like these where you see just how much they was blagging at the time and how far short they have fallen of there own intended goals. Yet Chris tries to tell him self “if it worked” it’s got more than sea of thieves” I have never fallen through the planet on sea of thieves or not been able to log in or do missions or my ship randomly explode. I don’t know how he sleeps at night.
Proof that Tom Wilson is absolutely farking awesome!
I have zero confidence the game will ever reach the height of the good old days of active Jumptowns with functioning comm arrays (able to hack them). The game design decisions since then have sucked the fun out of the game like an energy vampire.
They have a great art project - the best space .jpgs out there. What they don't have is the "foundation of a game". The basic systems - they aren't even sure what those should be. A code base that has clearly defined modules they can modify without affecting every other piece of code they've written? Nope, it is just a mess of code that was not planned out and put together with proper version control. Every change they make seems to bring back old bugs they supposedly took care of years ago...
Often the best scammers are the ones who do not even think of themselves as scammers. People who rationally know what Ponzi schemes are will sometimes still go into Ponzi schemes convinced they will work so long as nobody stops believing.
The problems start when people do stop believing.
We are at that point now.
Listening to Chris Roberts critique elite dangerous is rich. What the hell happened?…we went from Chris Roberts crying on stage talking about birthing a child with server meshing and we held the line to 2025 and the game is on the verge of collapse because it’s so Corrupted😂
You don't understand, MMs are here to stay and to be considerably worsened, the specificity of a shooter game is to have a high refresh rate to allow millimetric hitboxes tracking and the current settings are already well below all industry standards with a staggering level of complexity of features to integrate like engineering, fire, physicalized damage, Maelstrom, component and micro-component destruction ....
It can't work, the whole scam is there, they're developing things that can't work, it's the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life !
"Good Foundation".....😮 after fourteen years...😂 Chris makes me laugh
@4:11 "The problem with that is..."
That you at least get a functional game
@Foppemoa Chris claiming in 2016 they worked on the foundation of their game first to make sure they can build onto it is such a joke. Star Citizen never had a good foundation, still doesn't have one in 2025.
This is why we see reworks of reworks of reworks of ... that are wasting a lot of man hours and money.
There can always be unforeseen hurdles, but not having any plan at all is bad.
scientific illiteracy.. that reminds me of the trailer showing a space ship being destroyed by a lightning bolt - supercool weather effects and so on.. Cars today don't have this problem (Faraday cage), what kind of alien electricity are we going to encounter in 900 years?
Reworks of reworks is the summary for the latest 3hr long scl.
I believe Hacking was listed in the monthly report; it's awaiting character animations. But also in the sam ereport, the Animation department was working on animals 'charging'; and their next task is the Sandworm! They probably wont animate Hacking until the end of the year, and without placeholders, so fitting it into the code will require more refactoring.
Zero Direction. This is why. ~1000 employees, right? What are they doing?
Also, in case you missed it, Elite Dangerous is releasing BaseBuilding on the 26th. So we can expect CIG to drop everything and focus on building a toilet or something on a planet, soon.
MobiGlas was THE ULTIMATE CORE GAMEPLAY NERF... and all because the f***ing cursor used to fall of the UI when player breathed in and out... you know, instead of fixing the bug i.e. by assigning the cursor to a confined mobi-UI space or something LOL and this is why we don't have a dedicated GARAGING/SPAWNING feature based on the selection of a floating 3D solid hologram version of your ship in the mobiGlas tool.
LOLs all round... and I don't wanna say this, but, "We told you so, backers." We all told you CIG had no idea what they were making. :)
tried to do a bounty, got the ship to 75% dead and then its shields miraculously went to full and it became invincible, not in an Armistice Zone. Fuck this game
CAG proved you didn't need a developer to make a AAA game but you still need someone to watch over the creatives so they don't run crazy.
CIG relies on this "You don't understand how hard game development is at this scale" drumbeat argument to justify never being done and it's absolute nonsense. Plenty of us have been working in tech for years and are not mystified about the scale of the effort and can remain critical. At this point CIG needs to start acting like they themselves understand how hard game development is and develop absolutely any one of the many different games they've pretended SC is going to be over the years. Star Citizen is not in any way a groundbreaking game because it never actually finishes anything enough to break the ground. Many of the unfinished chunks of game would have been groundbreaking if they had come out anytime near when CIG almost did them. At this point then we'll be too busy actually flying spaceships to be interested in how Chris got the physics wrong when he was over simulating details but making the flying cartoony.
Except elite dangerous has done all these things.. star citizen hasnt
Start Citizen has elevators that I get stuck in and go nowhere. Let's see ED do that 😂
🎵 A never-ending stooory... ahahahahh ahahh... 🎵
"patches with new features every 3 months" and they wonder why Star citizen will never be finished. Oh and it's funny how he said that his approach is just as valid as the way elite dangerous does it. But which one has a game. 1 billion dollars later Chris Roberts your approach doesn't work.
Agreed, although I would suggest his approach might have worked had they not allowed their development to be taken over by chasing incessant scope creep. The moment they let the stretch goals go too far, they were doomed to development hell.
Star Citizen is rapidly becoming a lost cause. There is so much work to do just to fix up the base game and build the backlog of ships, while gold-passing the ones we have, on top of the money drying up. Unless Microsoft takes over, and I think they might just to stick it to CIG. Then SC becomes a shadow of a dream with a controller.
Was a lost cause 4 yrs ago wasn't it?
@@Kneejair Everything was predicated on server meshing as the "reason." That pie in the sky kept the true believer going, not so much these days.
@@Sutex0sofar yup, find it funny how so many ppl in my org claimed "oh wait for SM" being the end all solution, and here it is showing yet again CIG cannot do what is needed and waste millions of dollars on nothing
The "gold pass" ones still are not Gold.
Engineering and armor are still outstanding work.
CIG's work debt is enormous.
Beta will be in another 10 years, don't worry
We are in Beta now.
Great videa. Funny, I was also reading that forum post yesterday. Some very good points.
I don't think the old CryEngine is actually a problem. This engine was developed before ray tracing and AI fake frames or blurry AI upscalers were a thing. The fact that CIG has to do classical asset optimization (like LODs and displacement / bump maps) may be benefitial for perrformance in the long run. The number of games i have played recently that were barely hitting 60fps at native 1080p despite not looking better than games from 8 years ago is abysmal. Unreals Nanite and Lumen are a big part of the problem. Impressive systems developed for the dynamic destructible worlds of Fortnite. But for mostly static worlds, they are a really bad choice performance wise. Many games could run way faster on recent hardware, if more game developers would actually optimize the engine to the needs of their game. With the old engine, CIG is gonna have to do just that.
If they add permadeath I'm going to make it my mission to see how quickly I can get them to remove it.
Because I haven't spent any money on ships. I don't care about the game. And I'll sit there all day loading a new char up and just kamikazee-ing people until they ragequit.
It's the only way CIG will learn.
Give them a break its really hard work to cut and paste the same 3 building 12 times on a planet.
Server meshing and persistence is what I tend to blame for the state of the game. I never needed it to play an enjoyable space game. How complete and stable might the game be if he never went down this path. Does wow's millions of players for decades and decades need persistent environments? Does it need one large virtual server? No. No other MMO that's successful tried to do this. Often it's been said they don't want to "break the immersion" with a load screen. Haha . Not having my character fall through a planet having the elevators work having my ship spawn incorrectly or despawn correctly not having my body teleport places on ending up in the sun so many examples of things that break the immersion.
Ultima online and runescape, minecraft and some others do have these mechanics and lots of muds but of course all have limitations and not everyone is playing in same minecraft server. Eve of course is like it is for reasons that its how it can work.
Sc promised private servers with mods too.
Cig had a bunch of people who stupidly seem to have thought that nobody else thought of that wouldn't it be cool if this and that. Like no, kids in 90s thought of these wouldn't be cool scenarios already - they're obvious! Whats not obvious is why they're hard or impossible to do
at this point, it's better to scrap most things and use a different engine.
Better start crowdfunding another $1bn!
Which engine can work at this scope & scale then?
Buy ed's engine or what? There isn't an engine on the market. Remember somehow the trash around a jumppoint is supposed to be persisted for all players, but somehow they wouldn't need to be on same mesh and unlimited number of players could jump in and somehow its supposed to not break and make sense.
All the while the action would be drop in drop out. The original ks promises don't actually make any sense.
@@lassikinnunen there is an engine on the market and people just dont want to use it because it has a bad rep due to performance..... its called UE5 with nanite. nanite literally solves a big core tech element with there engine (seamless transitions) but tbh most of the game needs toning back in scope to achieve its wider goal of features
@Cloop123-s5z the nanites, in fact the whole graphical side, isn't the problem for what they say they're making in what scale with the user numbers.
None of it is a graphical problem. You could replace everything with 2000 era polygons and flatshade them and the problems would be the same.
I have been pissed off for a while with this game but I have to admit I have had several hours of great game play, it still has issues but it's way better now.
Chris talking about ED and politely "ribbing" on them is hilarious.
The fact is ED has a flight model, a wwwwaaayyyy better map system that can get you anything you need in a few button presses. I also will take the MFD system over any implementation of multicrew from SC.
Being able to handle everything as one player is just better for game playability...
ED and SC arent 1 to 1 comparisons.
ED is a "Star Trek" sim.
SC is a "aStar Wars" fantasy game.
The problem is they tried to sell it as "the best damn space sim ever"....
Turns out after you look at everything its not a sim at all, but a space fantasy game that doesnt even have a flight model.....
SC if it comes out, is not going to be a good game, its going to be a social space fantasy game...
The game already had its release many years ago. They are selling the entrance for full price, sell skins and weapon/ armor packs.
And obviously they sell big ships for maximum money.
This game has to be considered as "released". It is playable. And via the "life service" argument, will receive updates and getting more content and mechanics along the way.
The definition of "alpha" is just an escape plan of denial by this point.
If it would be an alpha, it is a pre-alpha: almost no concept has been finished and locked down, they have still no idea about many mechanics at all and purely neglect basic ideas, like what happens with the loss of paid-with-real-money items? Or rare ones, like event -rewards?
No word from the company at all.
Kinda sad, that there is so much deceiving of the public by this company today.
Listening to Chris preach about a foundation after years and never actually accomplish it and still be grappling with fundamentals is ironic.
Yip, 2955 with 1955 execution!
In the time you can literally go through university and 2 years into your career... for CIG? That's just the post-deadline time needed to meet a deadline.
LOL
As the saying goes you gotta take a shit or get up off of the toilet.
hearing that guy talk like he doesn't know anything about how to make games, that's right they have no basis and are always confused changing everything to make it work
Basically we are getting a rubbish featureless 1.0 because players and content creators could not cope understand the difference between Alpha and a game. CIG made this worse by calling what we have now a live service game.
So we are now in Beta
Wipe this shit show's buggy ass back to 3.22 and start from there. No more time sinks, fluffy filler, or master modes. Fix the bugs, make it playable, and make it fun
Don’t play it anymore.. shame
Shut up and just buy more ships! LOL
First ooo
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CIG top performer
I watched this yesterday :)
Yeah, three hours with almost no real answers.. I guess we have a year to know whether it’s time to bail or not.
Every update i was left with a couple of ships less. Last update took everything away. All my ships and 280 mil
If I said any of those things on spectrum, nightrider would delete it. This proves that nightrider is arbitrarily punishing and engaging in discriminatory behaviors. COMMY citizen