My Oyster 485 Yacht Isn't Selling - Come See What Buyers Are Missing

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  • @thelastpirate
    @thelastpirate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Thanks for watching!! Don't forget to LIKE the video. Please come see me at the boat show! -J

    • @rohantherockwiththerocketh7871
      @rohantherockwiththerocketh7871 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She looks good James, what's your ball park estimate for her?
      Have a ripper mate and stay safe!

    • @FarFromN0thing
      @FarFromN0thing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thelastpirate
      Me thinks you have an opportunity here.
      ~ Sailing Zingaro boat sales
      ~ Boat repair
      ~ Boat charter
      ~ Boat upgrades
      ~ Restaurant
      Your channel is set UP to convert your viewership to an amazing New Business Venture...where you are communicating with current and aspiring boat owners.
      Partner with the best Marina, help people and make a good life that mines your last decade.

    • @bobbybronkhorst7129
      @bobbybronkhorst7129 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hi Bro, have you found a place yet? I have a camping for sale in the alentejo. let me know if you would like to have more info.
      Cheers
      Bobby

    • @awwtv2603
      @awwtv2603 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Are you going to give all the donors from the gofundme page their money back. They donated all this money to you to make more sailing videos but now you stopped sailing. Dont be such a fraud, give it back or give it to charity.

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rohantherockwiththerocketh7871 Asking price is $299k. You can see the ad here: www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1993-oyster-485-9400025/

  • @nestkeeper
    @nestkeeper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    The birth of your first child changes everything that’s how I felt when you were born.❤️ love you son.

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      You wanted to sell your boat, mom? That’s so sweet!

    • @danieloliver20
      @danieloliver20 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@thelastpirate😂

    • @travistucker7317
      @travistucker7317 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@thelastpirateI think she wanted to sell you and keep the boat, but alas, democracy and all that jazz

    • @propertymanagement7011
      @propertymanagement7011 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not the first child he has an adult son.

    • @nestkeeper
      @nestkeeper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@propertymanagement7011 do you know something I don’t know?

  • @DavidMorrisBoats
    @DavidMorrisBoats หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Hi, firstly may I congratulate you on how well you appear to have kept the boat, she looks in super condition, a real credit to you, well done. I used to work for Oyster Brokerage in the UK from 2000 - 2017 and have sold and sailed many 485's over the years, they are one of my favourite boats to this day, super lines, all in proportion and great sea boat too. In a bid to be helpful, If I can suggest that 4 months is still relatively early in Oyster terms, we did an exercise once at Oyster UK and worked out the the average conversion time from initial enquiry to date of purchase was approximately 4 years. Buyers for these type of boats are often planning life changing adventures, they may be selling houses, properties or simply just trying to find a way to make time to enjoy these wonderful boats. I am not suggesting you have to wait for 4 years, just simply explaining that oyster buyers are often a slow burn. That said, if I have a boat that is not selling, personally I look at 3 things, price, condition and location. Your boat appears to be in good condition, and I'm guessing it is relatively assessable for viewing, so you might want to think about making a reduction, I suggest you normally need to reduce by about 10% to have significant impact. However, do speak to your broker and discuss it with them, they will understand how the market is in your location and i'm sure will want to help you sell. Good luck with it all. Kind regards Matt

  • @forrestwebb6182
    @forrestwebb6182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Gorgeous boat. Someone is going to get a deal. I wish it were me, but that won't be for 5+ years. The best part of boats like this is that someone else (you) have put all the sweat equity into it. You've already figured out what works and what doesn't, and tested it at sea. You've equipped it for real offshore sailing, and for living at anchor. Someone could pay much, much more for a production boat, and then STILL have to equip it to go offshore and live off grid. I sure hope to find a boat like this when the time comes. Don't lower your price, James! You'll find someone smart enough to know the value of a well-equipped vessel!

  • @stephenburnage7687
    @stephenburnage7687 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I have been cruising, for the last ten years, in a boat that I paid $20,000 for (and repowered it with a used engine I paid $100 for). I could afford a new Oyster but never wanted to tie that much money up in a depreciation asset like a boat. I also draw comfort from the fact that I could, in theory, afford to beach the boat and walk away from it, at any time, if things got tough.

    • @andreflavell3453
      @andreflavell3453 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      same as me . i paid $23k for a yacht that i live on and sail off shore . less is more and can walk away anytime

    • @svevergreen3370
      @svevergreen3370 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      50K for my 424. Same concept. Buy a boat you can afford to lose (or walk away from) .

  • @georgekryko7700
    @georgekryko7700 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Captain James, long time watcher, first time commenter. A beautiful rig, sailed and showcased meticulously. Thanks for all the inspiration you have provided over the years. I'll continue to watch whatever path you choose. More importantly, Congratulations on your amazing family! Wish you all the best. Siempre Listo!

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for the comment, George. Much love from Portugal :)

  • @jeffh5220
    @jeffh5220 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    It’s a tough audience in here James, my skin wouldn’t be thick enough to deal with it. I love your candidness and I hope you find a buyer soon, the boat looks magnificent.

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Par for the coarse when you make videos on this platform, though this really cemented my desire create some educational content about how boats are built, how they've changed, and what makes a good bluewater boat. Thanks for the kudos, Jeff.

    • @peteh8077
      @peteh8077 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Clueless boomers think the platform has anything to do with it. Life's pretty comfortable in your echo chamber huh

  • @seafuryphil
    @seafuryphil 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    People grow people change ,that's literally life . We look forward to seeing what's next .

  • @nonoiscool98
    @nonoiscool98 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Man if I had the money I would buy. We saw all the work you did to bring her back to life. Hope the next chapter in life goes well for you.

  • @GB-ew8wc
    @GB-ew8wc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Beautiful boat. I look forward to the land adventures. Thanks for taking us all along.

  • @AustinBoil
    @AustinBoil 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Damn that boat is in tippy top shape, clearly you have done a ton of work & didn't take shortcuts. Beautiful.

  • @gregsage1605
    @gregsage1605 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    You did a magnificent job refurbishing her. Some one will appreciate it.

  • @rickward3574
    @rickward3574 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watching the tour and remembering the first tour you gave after you first got her… quite an impressive difference! Best of luck.

  • @obieandlaurie
    @obieandlaurie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Your sailboat is absolutely beautiful. Best to you and your family. 🤗

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you! You too!

  • @bearitraeb
    @bearitraeb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All I have is a big heart and much love to have a sailing boat. Much Love and Many Blessings

  • @Dtk-1ofakind
    @Dtk-1ofakind 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That is a nice boat, I do hope you find the right buyer for it. It is a bit of a shame to see you get your boat all nicely fixed up, then not take it on many adventures. But yes that is life! Hope you find your next home soon!

  • @normanboyes4983
    @normanboyes4983 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best of luck selling your very well presented boat. I have had a look through the comments and many of them are absolutely hilarious, with many giving their opinions on ‘what it is worth’ and coming up with ridiculous values. I tell you this people - the only person who fixes the value of this (or any) boat is the buyer.

  • @shadon822
    @shadon822 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really sad that you are giving up sailing. You are the reason (and plucky 😋) I have started my sailing journey. However you are now on another amazing adventure, I wish you, anna and baby all the best. Please keep dropping videos and if you ever get back on the water there are lots of people waiting.
    Also when plucky gets his CAT on the water, please visit him and help with shake down, you 2 are dynamite together.

  • @TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk
    @TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Gotta remember, $300k is a cash price. Few would be able to finance this and few have that type of cash around. And I think the majority of those who have the money, might be looking for a somewhat less seaworthy boat that’s even more comfortable.
    Location could also be a problems take it to Florida or Annapolis and you might get lucky.
    It’s a nice boat though.

  • @coronapack
    @coronapack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It being owned by you should get it sold. Our fav sailing youtuber owned it! That's like owning magnum P.I.'s ferrari!!

    • @coronapack
      @coronapack หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@peteh8077 You are mistaken.

  • @svechappe6075
    @svechappe6075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Awesome refit. The boat is in a niche category, bluewater center cockpit, so it’s going to take a bit longer to find the right buyer. Tough to be patient, but that’s what it’s going to take.

  • @Leo-vk6qm
    @Leo-vk6qm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Perhaps you could do a video of the top 10 differences between higher and lower quality boats and hence how the large price differences come about.

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is a fantastic idea

    • @dennisfano2574
      @dennisfano2574 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thelastpirateI agree. Very good idea.

  • @Rodrifuuu
    @Rodrifuuu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    James, if you're gonna be in the Açores near that marina maybe you could keep the boat and do day sails or small cruises between islands? Whale watching tours, diving, etc.

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's not a bad idea! :) It's cheap to have a boat there too.

    • @Rodrifuuu
      @Rodrifuuu หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thelastpirate I'll definitely want to go on a whalewatching/fishing tour with you when I visit the Azores!

  • @rixward5475
    @rixward5475 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just saw your boat on yacht sales for 299 for a 1993 & then I saw a 1992 for 179k & that looks awesome. while that one is on the market for that price you won't be selling your boat unless you drop your price by 100k.

  • @mattdoherty753
    @mattdoherty753 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey James,
    I cut and pasted this comment... I totally agree with it and I feel it says all I could say. I will absolutely keep following your channel. Thanks mate!👍👍👍
    "Captain James, long time watcher, first time commenter. A beautiful rig, sailed and showcased meticulously. Thanks for all the inspiration you have provided over the years. I'll continue to watch whatever path you choose. More importantly, Congratulations on your amazing family! Wish you all the best. Siempre Listo!"

  • @will580
    @will580 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Beautiful boat with very nice upgrades. It shows obvious signs of care.We'd love to buy an Oyster and take it around the world, but our budget is only $150k. I hope you sell soon 😊

  • @DFENDR33
    @DFENDR33 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    With 300K I would by a nice property/finca/house in Portugal, Corsica or Greece and not a 30 year old sailboat. Which means a never ending story of boat jobs and costs of another ton of money. 🙂 Love your honesty James.

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good call. :)

    • @kenrehill8775
      @kenrehill8775 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Two greatest days in a boat owners life………..

    • @juttaweise
      @juttaweise หลายเดือนก่อน

      don't forget Sardinia!

  • @stevenschapera2888
    @stevenschapera2888 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    As tragic as it sounds, that’s a $175k boat. Thats the market. It’s worth what someone will pay.

    • @peteh8077
      @peteh8077 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He doesn't want to hear it, he likes living in a self-congratulating echo chamber.

    • @chickenfriedrice5119
      @chickenfriedrice5119 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      OK boat valuation expert/troll

  • @mennnok
    @mennnok หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a dream boat, it has everything. I watched your channel when you had the wrecked catamaran and didn’t even know you upgraded but this is a really nice one. I like the cabin in the rear.

  • @FireyFlyman
    @FireyFlyman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Wishing you all the best. I remember when Anna first came to the boat. You were toast! Great memories on the boat and so much better than when you first purchased. You've done everything beautifully with expert help when justified. If I did not own a Shannon 43, I'd be making you an offer.

    • @doncoxe644
      @doncoxe644 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, boats of "a certain age". They can be beautiful - and demanding. As an owner of a Shannon 43, you know this. James has been an excellent owner of this Oyster 485, giving it all the attention it could possibly ask for. An informed buyer will get a great deal. Gotta say you're right though, a Shannon 43 is a boat to stay with. I worked for Walter in the mid eighties, launching the early 43's. I *loved* that boat. Lucky you! I'm selling a Freedom 40/40 now and looking for easier sail handling - probably a recent production boat. Sadly, they're harder to love but offer an old guy like me less of a physical challenge. Enjoy the 43 - One of the greatest boats I've known. And to James - best of luck!

    • @FireyFlyman
      @FireyFlyman หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@doncoxe644 then you may now my boat. Hull #3. Originally called Splendor. We’ve returned her to great seaworthy condition and are now working on restoring her beauty. (Brightwork).

  • @captdrewcafe
    @captdrewcafe หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Capt. James you’ve made an awesome boat from a major project boat! Unfortunately the economy is very uncertain, and people are tightening their belts. 5 years ago it would have been sold already. I was in the keys for lobster mini season and it was eerily quiet.. well for mini season anyway. Looking forward to what you have next to come! GL selling her. Cheers 🍻

  • @Burban57
    @Burban57 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    its gotta be killin you to see that beautiful boat sittin on the hard lookin so good, and thinkin about it in the water 30 degrees over and just gittin it

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha. Every day I think about going to get her and bring her down here. We'll see, if it doesn't sell that is exactly what I'm going to do.

  • @SuperSventizeMe
    @SuperSventizeMe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Two months isn't very long to be on the market for a $300k boat. I was watching a $150k C42MkII here in Seattle, and it took six months. You've got an amazing boat, up there with Nigel Calder's Malo 48 that's also for sale. Stay your ground on price. Someone you meet at the Annapolis show will buy it.

  • @charleslassiter6082
    @charleslassiter6082 หลายเดือนก่อน

    woow thats a really lovely boat James how lucky someone will be to own this one ... keep the price its worth every penny how beautiful is she

  • @itsathaithing
    @itsathaithing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's amazing how big that thing is under the waterline. It's like a guppy. Good luck with the sale.

  • @FranklinGray
    @FranklinGray 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I agree. It's not that great cruising with a little one. We did it for 2.5 years and gave up. He wasn't progressing much on the boat but started progressing very well on land. He is getting a bit older and plan on getting back out there in 2 years when he is 9.
    BTW: It's called a Keel Box. Much better than a bold onto the hull directly as the box absorbs stuff, but encapsulated is better :)

    • @belimooo
      @belimooo หลายเดือนก่อน

      I heard the term keel stub before...

    • @FranklinGray
      @FranklinGray หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@belimooo I think stub was the first name when they were little but as the got bigger started calling them keel box. Stubs are like 8 to 12 inches deep. On my Hunter it was 24 inches deep so it was a keel box. Keel box are only surpassed by encapsulated

    • @belimooo
      @belimooo หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I google keel box, its showing images of basically an inverted keel stub, a big box towards inside of the hull... 😮

    • @FranklinGray
      @FranklinGray หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@belimooo Well, you may be right. I read 20 years ago about a keel box and it described what I had on my Hunter, but it seems others have used that term to describe something totally different.

  • @FranklinGray
    @FranklinGray 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is understandable, especially from the salesmanship of the production boat builders and their salesmen about 'advanced tech' and stuff that there is a misunderstanding of what a good offshore boat is these days. I would like to share an experience I had one day in the Caribbean. It was 2019 and we had our current boat, a Whitby 55 for only a few months. We had to make a lot of changes to make it mine...make it ready for cruising. It was never really a cruising boat...more of a dock queen boat which is sad.
    We were leaving Tyrell Bay in Grenada heading to Bequia, a good 4-6 hour sail. The wind was around 20 knots. It was just our second sail on her. There was a new Oceans 46 about a mile ahead of us. I remember wondering if they were going the same place we were. Anyway, I got the sails up and after rounding the corner heading north I set the autopilot and went down below with my wife and baby boy in the cockpit on the low side. I came up with a large mug of ice tea and sat on the high side. We had 1 reef in the main and the boat was heeled just 12 degrees. I remember checking because it was very easy to sit on the high side. I think our speed was around 8.5 knots. We caught that Benny in about 45 minutes.
    The Beneteau Ocean 46, which has about the same water length as my Whitby, was having troubles in the wind and swell. They had 2 reefs in the headsail, and 2 in the main and the guy at the helm was working hard. The boat was heeled over a tad over 20 degrees which is the prime spot on production boats. I remember looking at them and say: I love my new old boat. I waved and then kept drinking my tea.
    about an hour later we are at least a mile ahead. The wind starts to pick up to 25 knots. I thought that was a good time to test my staysail, so I rolled up the genoa and unrolled the staysail. The sheets were not ran right (I fixed that later) and I couldn't get it to stop spilling air and we were only doing 4 knots. I tried to furl the staysail but the furling line was too small and I didn't keep tension on it when I unfurled it so the line got jammed. I was messing with it for about a hour before I decided to just drop it and put it in the sail locker.
    By this time the Oceans had passed me and was a mile out front again. I unfurled the genoa but left about a reef in it. We caught up to them just as we were reaching our anchorage. I furled again because I didn't want to embarrass them just before pulling into the anchorage. They kept on going though...I guess they didn't want to be in the same anchorage as us :)
    Why was my boat so able to handle the situation better? Our keel is 16,000 lbs with all the weight just in the bottom foot of the encapsulated keel. The Oceans is just 6,000 lbs and it's weight goes all the way up to the hull. We can fly a lot more sail than they can and heel a lot less and have a much more comfortable ride.
    Quality of build and design matters. The new production boats are bare minimum quality and risky offshore but great for beer can racing in the med sea. This Oyster is a pretty good boat. Far better than any production boat build these days. About the only boat maker these days that makes something better is a Kraken but they start around 1.5 million dollars. The Krakens though are very similar to my Whitby. Same hull shape, same encapsulated fin keel, same protected rudder but not a ketch like mine.

  • @vb6database
    @vb6database 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Gorgeous!! You should do charter until she sells. Doing charter is doing advertising but you get paid for it...

  • @JoseMariaOliveira
    @JoseMariaOliveira 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this boat. Really love her. If only I could afford it. It is well worth what you are asking. It's amazing.

  • @ambo007
    @ambo007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    asset values have crashed. no one has realized it yet. but yes.. very nice boat

    • @ickster23
      @ickster23 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends on the asset. Used tractors have skyrocketed in price. Pre DEF and pre emissions trucks are also, surprisingly, appreciating. I'm talking about 20+ year old trucks. Same as farm equipment. I bought a disk harrow 2 years ago for $2k and sold it last month for 2.5k.

  • @lkmb1717
    @lkmb1717 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Amazing boat, she will sell soon, no doubt about it!

  • @kristaready8812
    @kristaready8812 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    She looks in great shape. I hope you find a buyer soon. I'm happy to hear you're staying on TH-cam 🤗💞

  • @usabayermicha6178
    @usabayermicha6178 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi James, I have watched your vids even before you bought this boat and have followed your process. It's amazing how you have restored it. As i am just retiring and want to sail the word I am in the market for a suitable vessel. Yours would definitely be match, if I had the funds to buy. Good luck with your sale, and with your new adventure together. BDY, I liked that Mill you looked at a lot. It could have an amazing potential to be something special. The win yard, although the view was spectacular, in my humble opinion, would have to be too much work, especially not knowing about the business
    Good luck on your search

  • @mastertimelord1
    @mastertimelord1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, i have not watched one of your videos for a very long time. Wasnt showing up on my feed for some strange reason. Last one i saw was when you were taking on water on the first outing with her.
    Can't believe how much work you have put into her, she looks so much sharper and tidy. It's a shame your are selling up, but when a child comes along, your priorities change significantly.
    I watch another sailing channel on YT and they have a kid (im sure you know which one im talking about) and i cant help but think it's selfish keeping the kid isolated on a boat at such a young age, just because you want to keep sailing. They need to be socialising with other kids and be able to play out and do things kids do, not be couped up on a 60ft boat.
    It may be hard, but you're doing the best and right thing man.

  • @conniefontenot2793
    @conniefontenot2793 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have a beautiful 1980 Cape Dory 25 on a dual axle Trailer. New this was 27 k and I can’t even sell it for 4900. Sailboat market is beyond dead because boat slips are 500 a month and haul out are very expensive. I see Alberg 27 for 1,000

  • @southernfriedkiwi7726
    @southernfriedkiwi7726 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    99% of sailors are never doing ocean crossings, so they can either have a 30 year old boat or a larger, modern layout boat from this decade for the same money and not struggle to get a loan or insurance for it. Oysters are nice boats, but it's not 2021 and it makes more sense at $200,000, barely.

    • @Richard-up9gb
      @Richard-up9gb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dont forget that the whole world is entering a uncertain times and these days there are more and more regulations and many are getting layed off from work and companies are looking to hire cheap labor so not as much money out there anymore .

    • @southernfriedkiwi7726
      @southernfriedkiwi7726 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Richard-up9gb Yes, but they want us ignore what our eyes see and just believe the narrative.

  • @skipallen3309
    @skipallen3309 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful little girl, what a blessing!! Your boat is awesome and very beautiful too! All the best in your efforts to sell the boat!

  • @wonderboy6511
    @wonderboy6511 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for refitting a fine vessel to her original glory, and good luck with the sale.

  • @miketybring4700
    @miketybring4700 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You have done an awesome job of getting her back top prestine condition. Like others have said it is a soft market for sailboats or any other boat for that matter. Huge price drops, be better to hang on on for a bit and not lose your shirt. Be patient, l realize that is a lot of capital to hang on to, but things are going to get better once the election is done. Everybody is being cautious right now. Good luck with it. Congratulations on the new family member. Kids give you purpose in life.

    • @franksmith137
      @franksmith137 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree just hold till after elections don't let that boat slip away for less

    • @SuperJlonergan
      @SuperJlonergan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@franksmith137 what are u smokin

    • @bearitraeb
      @bearitraeb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is great news … for me, I mean. I have been waiting for the right time…. Its coming 😊😊😊😊

  • @roberth7894
    @roberth7894 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It'll sell, just gotta get the right buyer. The market for big ticket items has been softening lately.

  • @mikemorrison8356
    @mikemorrison8356 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi James, I've followed your videos off and on for a while now, if I were at the stage of my life where I was in the market for a world cruising boat, I'd definitely be considering yours. The Oyster 485 has been at the very top of my list for a "go anywhere" boat for several years, and I've been following the market for this particular vessel for quite a while, from back when you still had that catamaran. I think your price is reasonable, the market right now is crap, but even so, given the refit and upgrades as shown in the video, I think your boat presents a good value. I really like how you've got it set up, and I like the detail you show in the video of how everything is actually rigged. The right buyer will come along. I just sold my first keelboat, after upgrading to a larger vessel, it took two whole summers with lots of showings, and zero offers. I was getting really down on the boat, frustrated, and felt like it would never sell. Selling it happened very quickly, the price I got for it was better than I'd expected to be able to get in this market, and the new owner is absolutely thrilled with it. The right buyer is out there for your boat as well, and it'll happen eventually. I'll go and get a lottery ticket, and maybe it'll be me!

  • @peteh8077
    @peteh8077 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    A 31 year old 49' boat w a LWL of 39 feet... For 300k. And you genuinely aren't sure why it's not going to sell for even half that? 😮

    • @jeffcanar7294
      @jeffcanar7294 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yeah, no kidding. There are fully re-fitted, high end, true purpose built blue water boats (like this Oyster) out there, every bit as good as this for considerably less. Island Packet, Hinckley, Pacific Seacraft, Shannon, Little Harbor, etc... The list goes on. This boat isn't in the wheelhouse of 300k. This is the "I don't want to sell it price". So yeah, it's not gonna sell.

    • @michaelmeinberg2696
      @michaelmeinberg2696 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly. It reminds me of a friend of mine who was selling a house, and said: "It has this feature, that feature, etc, it's worth XXX!" I told him, it's not worth a penny more than someone is willing to pay for it! He was dreaming...
      300K for a 31 year old 49 foot boat? Sure sounds high to me...

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ugh. This is the worst forum for this conversation. Seriously, these comments are verbal diarrhea. If this boat were a car, it would be a Rolls Royce, with an original sticker price of $1.4 Million dollars. Two sisterships just sold for $410k and $300k last year. Find another Oyster in this condition for this price.... You can't. If you want an Island Packet, get that boat; it won't sail like an Oyster.

    • @steveperrin3300
      @steveperrin3300 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks to all of you for your comments and evaluation of the price on this particular thread. I am considering purchasing a used blue water boat, and it's enlightening to read additional comments concerning pricing at this stage of my search. Having said that, this is a magnificent boat. What do you think that insurance replacement costs would be if you were to lose it? Certainly not $300k. Sunk costs are hell. Best of luck, James!!

    • @peteh8077
      @peteh8077 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thelastpirateverbal diarrhea? Want to see what kind of catamaran I can buy for 300k? You should've quit sailing a long time ago. You're a tuber.

  • @DM-tn6jd
    @DM-tn6jd หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful boat man, very nicely set up. Hope you get what you deserve and you need.

  • @brucemckelvy9920
    @brucemckelvy9920 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Everything sells for a price. IF price is too high it will not sell.

  • @billsmith5593
    @billsmith5593 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    New buyers often compare similar year boats and then say you are overpriced. They miss the point that your boat is nearly knew and the other boat is original. Just a new Nortern Lights generator is 13k not including installation. Sails 30k. Lithium batteries with new inverters 25k.
    I just sold my Hinckley 49 with beaufptifully upgraded systems throughout. Great sea boat safe and reliable. It was worth 245k. It took a year to get 185k. I think location here is an issue but anyone who knows James skill and the documentation are missing a great boat. Just look at the new couple on TH-cam who were going to cross the Atlantic and when they put the boat in the yard the keel came thru the salon. Buy upfitted quality

  • @southface06
    @southface06 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just bought a smaller Oyster that was recently refurbished to top condition (like yours). I couldn't believe the quality I got for the price I paid.

  • @theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439
    @theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Such a great freaking boat... but folks are wary of course. It's a different world out there.
    Good luck man. There is probably no better boat out there for that price.

  • @dukewanders
    @dukewanders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    It's overpriced. there is a good condition 1992 Oyster nearby for $179k that has dropped it price... insurance will be an issue for a boat of this vintage, obtaining a loan, if needed, will be problematic as well. Good luck.

    • @michaelwilliams5132
      @michaelwilliams5132 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Agreed we have a newer 1999 485 in nz looks to be in very good condition hasn’t sold for 4 years and asking 160k USD
      Boats that are 30 years old are like dropped pies no 1 wants them.

    • @johnshaw8327
      @johnshaw8327 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@michaelwilliams5132
      Dropped pies.... I love it. My mother who was a nurse in WW2 taught me to eat everything that I drop on the ground, no matter where. I don't ever get sick and I'm 80. On zero medications. She died young unfortunately. Hit by a bus, not pretty. I was 17. Made me live for the moment.

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That 1992 Oyster is parked right next to mine. I invite you to see both. There is a reason that one has been for sale for more than a year. These models are so different you're comparing apples and oranges.

    • @kevnorth9812
      @kevnorth9812 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correct. Any real sailor will seek out a sturdy ocean going yacht (my preference is steel or Aluminium) $300k is nothing compared to a flimsy Cat.

  • @edgarmuller6652
    @edgarmuller6652 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great boat. We have been seeing sailing well too. Good luck on the sale.

  • @ricktarkowski1027
    @ricktarkowski1027 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks like povoaçao marina. There is beautiful mountainous terrain outside of town. Your Oyster 485 looks ready to go anywhere.

  • @stevenrance5320
    @stevenrance5320 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Beautiful example of a proper blue water cruiser capable of getting you anywhere in the world safely and in comfort. Looks an Excellent specification. Water maker, decent solar array, star link etc. Sure, you can buy a much more modern production boat for the same price, and if you are not looking to cruise offshore and are happy to take a bigger depreciation hit, it may be a better option - but if you are looking to cruise offshore, the smart money is on this boat. Good luck with the sale

  • @NeilRedburn
    @NeilRedburn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Done 10,000's of miles on her smaller sister, a 435, this is sooooo familiar. I think 300K is a lot of money, for what, a mid-90's boat (?) ...and I never did understand in-mast furling. On the 435 we removed that, and flaked the main on the boom. I think, sadly, it's a buyers market and despite the obvious quality of an Oyster it's a tough sell at that price.

  • @fs819p60
    @fs819p60 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So very clean and sharp! Always loved this one…

  • @brianchew7805
    @brianchew7805 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a beautiful boat. Being a total land lubber I plan to take a 5 day sailing course in February to see if I even like it. If I do and if she's still available I'll contact you.

    • @brianchew7805
      @brianchew7805 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      PS. Congrats on your amazing family

  • @sailinginmaine
    @sailinginmaine หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have heard that the teak deck is very thin and has very little life left which makes sense given that the boat is 30 years old with original teak? I prefer boats without teak decks due to the huge maintenance costs of teak. That adds a huge extra cost down the road. At least 70-100k to redo a teak deck on a sailboat, provided no moisture got in to fiberglass deck. Add to that many things that need ongoing annual maintenance and this boat will not be cheap to keep in service. It is very beautiful however.

  • @geniksonthego8963
    @geniksonthego8963 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a beautiful boat, if we weren't working on finishing a boat to get on the water, i would be offering. That said, looking forward to Annapolis and meeting you in person.

  • @conradspens3377
    @conradspens3377 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great boat in beautiful, ready to go, condition! My heart goes out to you that the market for all boats, and especially sailboats, is so depressed. Best wishes and good luck!

  • @danieloliver20
    @danieloliver20 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Damn James, the Oyster is looking sweet!! 😍⛵️

  • @svevergreen3370
    @svevergreen3370 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This boat is kick butt no question about it. you know your stuff and has all the wish list of any sailor without a doubt. Not to be nosy but if I recall you used money from a kick starter campaign just curious how that would work as you sell your boat ?

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's not nosey, I get that a lot. I fulfilled the kickstarter obligations long ago. You can still see the campaign if you look it up, we raised money so we could do a season 2 of the show. We are on season 5 now. Much love, bud

  • @dennispatrick4999
    @dennispatrick4999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's definitely a gorgeous sail ⛵️ boat.
    Would love owning it.

  • @christopherharry5818
    @christopherharry5818 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    RIght! You are not alone having trouble selling your boat. Our 49' fully equiped ocean cruising boat has been on the market for six months. Zero interest and it is priced right. Hell of a value for someone wanting an offshore cruising boat. I think people bought a lot of stuff right after covid, including boats and now that stuff is back on the market. No one is buying anything at the moment. The historical data suggests boats our size will sell after more than a year on the market. And it is not clear to me historical data applies at this time.

  • @jamest6837
    @jamest6837 หลายเดือนก่อน

    living out on the ocean is hard core dont blame you one bit...dont know how you did it as long as you did...all the drama scenes you lived thru! p.s. your boat is beautiful and it will sell no worries! love you bud take care and enjoy a normal life with your family. you can get a Hobie cat later to scratch the sailing itch!

  • @melinda5777
    @melinda5777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That Boat is Beautiful! I WISH!!!❤

  • @Thedrifter1
    @Thedrifter1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I think the sailing YT thing has also been played to the death.
    I've noticed one guy building a cat, then another channel has to buy one and fit it out, competition is a good thing, but when i see some getting plastic surgery to try and keep up i think... is it worth it, like really? What sort of life do they have being recorded 24/7 and going under the knife to look ..... I'll leave it there.
    From one James to another one, i think you're doing the right thing bud.

    • @janhbhugo5085
      @janhbhugo5085 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kinda get who you are referring to, sad but true .

    • @John316OBrian-cm4fj
      @John316OBrian-cm4fj หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who went under the knife ? The Aussies ?

  • @NeilMartin-z7e
    @NeilMartin-z7e 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very nice yacht! With the two hurricanes needless to say we have an ice cold market. That plus many want to.m Avoid the winter storage charge with some just walking away. Best bet right now is wait till spring

  • @anthonyfrattalone9937
    @anthonyfrattalone9937 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's not selling because there isn't sufficient demand for it at that price. That's the only reason. Lower the price or increase the demand, and it will sell. This video is an attempt to do the latter I suppose. If I was ready to buy, I would be interested in seeing it. I think if you got rid of those little areas of rust (they catch the eye), shine up the brightwork more and shampoo out the stains in the cushions (or get reupholstered), that would help the curb appeal a lot! Good luck!

    • @SuperJlonergan
      @SuperJlonergan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i was going to say the elephant in the room, but you did so i reply lol, you cant ask top dollar for a boat missing the genset and cushions that id have to put plastic on before i sat down....genset and redo cushions etc etc and maybe sell for close to that price....that price is high end turn key

  • @bulentberksan9888
    @bulentberksan9888 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would like to buy a well-maintained boat with a story like yours, even if it is a bit more expensive than it is worth. I hope you sell it as soon as possible. If I were you, I would give a promotion to speed up the sale. For example, an ocean crossing experience....

  • @thecourts5705
    @thecourts5705 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! This boat is spectacular!

  • @jessefalsone1247
    @jessefalsone1247 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice yacht. I understand your frustration. Hopefully your broker is proactive and understands the boat (few really do). HHN is about the best place to sell a boat in the US and now that it's boatshow season maybe you get more serious buyers. It's a big boat for most people, esp at 40K lbs. If you don't really want to go places, there's no point in buying a boat like this in my opinion. Good luck.

  • @robertlaird6746
    @robertlaird6746 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Jesus, I remember your first video. It's crazy that the time stamp shows that it's 7 years old already. Time flies when your having fun. Do you plan on getting another boat latter on in the future to continue the adventure or are you done? What type of boat would you get if you returned to sailing? Boat kids have the best education and tend to be much smarter than kids that go to public schools!

    • @juttaweise
      @juttaweise หลายเดือนก่อน

      so true. Some years ago I followed a german family with 3 kids on board, one born while sailing. They sailed for years around the globe, later on teachers included. The children were so smart, knowing more languages, knowing so much about the sealife etc. This was before social media became so important, so they stoped in places they liked for longer periods, to work to get money necessary and to give the children the chance to make friends with local children! A life like that teaches children what life is all about!

  • @melinda5777
    @melinda5777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey my Brother! I told you the Azores are the bomb!! But you need to leave San Miguel and go to Terceria Island! Thats where i was stationed in the good ole NAVY. Ive been back and would love to live there. Your missing the bull runs! Much Love to the Family! ✝️🙏❤️🇺🇲⛵️👣🍍☘️🍍🍍🥰😎🤗

  • @bermyFairn
    @bermyFairn หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Oyster looks so good. Im surprised it has'nt sold asap.

  • @Boatlife69
    @Boatlife69 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lovely boat, really really nice. But $300,000 is crazy

  • @bokai2929
    @bokai2929 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PLEASE keep your podcast going!

  • @rew3103
    @rew3103 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A solid platform, one of the better ones out there. Fingers crossed your contingency plans will work out :)

  • @Jb-mi2rm
    @Jb-mi2rm หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent review good luck.

  • @crawford7010
    @crawford7010 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dude the teak on the back was a great idea

  • @rogerrolandbelanger4762
    @rogerrolandbelanger4762 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome boat she is beautiful man if you can afford it I would keep the boat. I understand kids change your lives, but one day you gonna want to get back on that boat and you got the perfect boat for it. Just a thought but I understand too when we all need the money awesome boat.

  • @AfricanFlightStar
    @AfricanFlightStar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    James! We totally get it man, the birth of one's children often changes the entire program, and that's just fine. A man's gotta do what he and his SO feel is right for each different chapter of their lives.
    Didn't know you were in the Azores (for some reason I thought you were in Columbia?! 😄) The Azores a place that is way up there on my bucket list, every sailing TH-camr has raved about the place, and being far away from the madness of 'big society', sure sound like a fantastic thing to me at this time in the world. I'm sure you will have the time of your lives there for a good few years. And you have such a beautiful and well equipped boat, it's bound to move before too long,
    Hope to see you at Annapolis, you're an inspiration to so many of us, best wishes to you and Ana and little baby Luna Azul, she is one sugar-coated cutie, cheers!

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Awe that was such a sweet comment. Thanks my brother.

  • @richardchandonnait6697
    @richardchandonnait6697 หลายเดือนก่อน

    James , coming from a sailor USN, i don't think you will truly happy in a in shore life,Iknow you keep telling yourself that your daughter loves the shore life and she wants to be with people and all that , but let me tell you from experience that i was in the same circumstance as you only it was in reverse and now at 78 years old and my kids are all grown up they don't even come see me any more, so take some good advice and think really hard, you have been sailing all your life this is what you know and make a living at, dont let the trappings fool you, just wanted to be the only one telling you this, it is not for you, trust me as parley says don't let your self be fooled

  • @robertgranafei2781
    @robertgranafei2781 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It seems to me, having been into sailing yachts for 50 plus years, that the younger generation shops for boats like they shop for a condo. How big is the bedroom? Does the kitchen have a lot of counter top space and storage? Does it have air conditioning throughout? Rarely to they focus on how the hull is laid up. Never ask: Is if cored? If it is cored what materials were used? Nope, they want a huge cockpit, a sugar scoop transom and every electrical gadget known to man. Keel bolts? Say what, man, what is that? That mentality has lead not only to fat assed mono-hulls which can barely fill into a slip, but also the increased popularity of cats. That effect, coupled with the economy, has resulted in a major down turn in the older monohull market. I see quality boats, like this one, sit on the market at a fair price for not just months but years. The big advantages this seller has are 1) big You Tube following, 2) boat is in turn key shape, and 3) it is an Oyster. My guess is to sell it he will need to come off his price quite a bit. Sad but true, I am afraid.

    • @roko650
      @roko650 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe younger generation does not want such a big boat.

  • @tammy6992
    @tammy6992 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice lines on that boat

  • @gcrauwels941
    @gcrauwels941 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A Perkins 4.236 with a Hurth. Great, solid combination.

  • @deepdivedelight
    @deepdivedelight 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    woww pristine!

  • @tonybodlovic5825
    @tonybodlovic5825 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She's a beautiful yacht.
    More importantly, it's nice getting a walkthrough from someone who's actually gone cruising. You know what is relevant and what needs pointing out. We've all seen the amateurs and their useless walkthroughs.

  • @bearitraeb
    @bearitraeb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No solar? And soon as I commented you mentioned the solar at the end😂😂

  • @MOTORVESSELFREEDOM
    @MOTORVESSELFREEDOM หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    People on TH-cam think they can ask what they want. 200k is a good number. If someone offers that, take it

  • @Arctodusangustidens
    @Arctodusangustidens หลายเดือนก่อน

    She is a dream boat! ❤❤❤

  • @belimooo
    @belimooo หลายเดือนก่อน

    When did you buy this boat? Was any maintemance done on the teak deck?

  • @TravisHollandMoto
    @TravisHollandMoto 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have your boat saved on YachtWorld, but it’s a 30 year old boat that I can’t get a loan on so as many times as I’ve looked at it and wanted it, it’s just a non-starter when, for the same money, I can get something that banks and insurance likes more for less.

    • @thelastpirate
      @thelastpirate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's strange, because I've had it insured for the entire time I've owned it, no problem. Have you actually tried to get insurance on an older boat, or are you just talking in generalities? I think it's the latter.

    • @TravisHollandMoto
      @TravisHollandMoto 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thelastpirate it’s for sure the later. I’m sure I could get insurance for it but it would likely be more difficult because of its age and it’s my first boat.