@@thelastpirate Me thinks you have an opportunity here. ~ Sailing Zingaro boat sales ~ Boat repair ~ Boat charter ~ Boat upgrades ~ Restaurant Your channel is set UP to convert your viewership to an amazing New Business Venture...where you are communicating with current and aspiring boat owners. Partner with the best Marina, help people and make a good life that mines your last decade.
Are you going to give all the donors from the gofundme page their money back. They donated all this money to you to make more sailing videos but now you stopped sailing. Dont be such a fraud, give it back or give it to charity.
Hi, firstly may I congratulate you on how well you appear to have kept the boat, she looks in super condition, a real credit to you, well done. I used to work for Oyster Brokerage in the UK from 2000 - 2017 and have sold and sailed many 485's over the years, they are one of my favourite boats to this day, super lines, all in proportion and great sea boat too. In a bid to be helpful, If I can suggest that 4 months is still relatively early in Oyster terms, we did an exercise once at Oyster UK and worked out the the average conversion time from initial enquiry to date of purchase was approximately 4 years. Buyers for these type of boats are often planning life changing adventures, they may be selling houses, properties or simply just trying to find a way to make time to enjoy these wonderful boats. I am not suggesting you have to wait for 4 years, just simply explaining that oyster buyers are often a slow burn. That said, if I have a boat that is not selling, personally I look at 3 things, price, condition and location. Your boat appears to be in good condition, and I'm guessing it is relatively assessable for viewing, so you might want to think about making a reduction, I suggest you normally need to reduce by about 10% to have significant impact. However, do speak to your broker and discuss it with them, they will understand how the market is in your location and i'm sure will want to help you sell. Good luck with it all. Kind regards Matt
Gorgeous boat. Someone is going to get a deal. I wish it were me, but that won't be for 5+ years. The best part of boats like this is that someone else (you) have put all the sweat equity into it. You've already figured out what works and what doesn't, and tested it at sea. You've equipped it for real offshore sailing, and for living at anchor. Someone could pay much, much more for a production boat, and then STILL have to equip it to go offshore and live off grid. I sure hope to find a boat like this when the time comes. Don't lower your price, James! You'll find someone smart enough to know the value of a well-equipped vessel!
Captain James, long time watcher, first time commenter. A beautiful rig, sailed and showcased meticulously. Thanks for all the inspiration you have provided over the years. I'll continue to watch whatever path you choose. More importantly, Congratulations on your amazing family! Wish you all the best. Siempre Listo!
It’s a tough audience in here James, my skin wouldn’t be thick enough to deal with it. I love your candidness and I hope you find a buyer soon, the boat looks magnificent.
Par for the coarse when you make videos on this platform, though this really cemented my desire create some educational content about how boats are built, how they've changed, and what makes a good bluewater boat. Thanks for the kudos, Jeff.
I have been cruising, for the last ten years, in a boat that I paid $20,000 for (and repowered it with a used engine I paid $100 for). I could afford a new Oyster but never wanted to tie that much money up in a depreciation asset like a boat. I also draw comfort from the fact that I could, in theory, afford to beach the boat and walk away from it, at any time, if things got tough.
Us too. $10k (for a $35k boat, shop in Canada!) 10 yrs of cruising and living our best lives. We have several friends trying to unload expensive sailboats - the market is tough and all their retirement money is locked up.. and dropping.
With 300K I would by a nice property/finca/house in Portugal, Corsica or Greece and not a 30 year old sailboat. Which means a never ending story of boat jobs and costs of another ton of money. 🙂 Love your honesty James.
That is a nice boat, I do hope you find the right buyer for it. It is a bit of a shame to see you get your boat all nicely fixed up, then not take it on many adventures. But yes that is life! Hope you find your next home soon!
I have a beautiful 1980 Cape Dory 25 on a dual axle Trailer. New this was 27 k and I can’t even sell it for 4900. Sailboat market is beyond dead because boat slips are 500 a month and haul out are very expensive. I see Alberg 27 for 1,000
Best of luck selling your very well presented boat. I have had a look through the comments and many of them are absolutely hilarious, with many giving their opinions on ‘what it is worth’ and coming up with ridiculous values. I tell you this people - the only person who fixes the value of this (or any) boat is the buyer.
its gotta be killin you to see that beautiful boat sittin on the hard lookin so good, and thinkin about it in the water 30 degrees over and just gittin it
Hey James, I cut and pasted this comment... I totally agree with it and I feel it says all I could say. I will absolutely keep following your channel. Thanks mate!👍👍👍 "Captain James, long time watcher, first time commenter. A beautiful rig, sailed and showcased meticulously. Thanks for all the inspiration you have provided over the years. I'll continue to watch whatever path you choose. More importantly, Congratulations on your amazing family! Wish you all the best. Siempre Listo!"
James, if you're gonna be in the Açores near that marina maybe you could keep the boat and do day sails or small cruises between islands? Whale watching tours, diving, etc.
New buyers often compare similar year boats and then say you are overpriced. They miss the point that your boat is nearly knew and the other boat is original. Just a new Nortern Lights generator is 13k not including installation. Sails 30k. Lithium batteries with new inverters 25k. I just sold my Hinckley 49 with beaufptifully upgraded systems throughout. Great sea boat safe and reliable. It was worth 245k. It took a year to get 185k. I think location here is an issue but anyone who knows James skill and the documentation are missing a great boat. Just look at the new couple on TH-cam who were going to cross the Atlantic and when they put the boat in the yard the keel came thru the salon. Buy upfitted quality
I saw that video. I felt bad for them. But they didn't do their "do diligence". They picked a fin keel spade rudder coastal cruiser to be their blue water boat. They should have been looking for something more like Jame's Oyster.
Really sad that you are giving up sailing. You are the reason (and plucky 😋) I have started my sailing journey. However you are now on another amazing adventure, I wish you, anna and baby all the best. Please keep dropping videos and if you ever get back on the water there are lots of people waiting. Also when plucky gets his CAT on the water, please visit him and help with shake down, you 2 are dynamite together.
What a dream boat, it has everything. I watched your channel when you had the wrecked catamaran and didn’t even know you upgraded but this is a really nice one. I like the cabin in the rear.
It is understandable, especially from the salesmanship of the production boat builders and their salesmen about 'advanced tech' and stuff that there is a misunderstanding of what a good offshore boat is these days. I would like to share an experience I had one day in the Caribbean. It was 2019 and we had our current boat, a Whitby 55 for only a few months. We had to make a lot of changes to make it mine...make it ready for cruising. It was never really a cruising boat...more of a dock queen boat which is sad. We were leaving Tyrell Bay in Grenada heading to Bequia, a good 4-6 hour sail. The wind was around 20 knots. It was just our second sail on her. There was a new Oceans 46 about a mile ahead of us. I remember wondering if they were going the same place we were. Anyway, I got the sails up and after rounding the corner heading north I set the autopilot and went down below with my wife and baby boy in the cockpit on the low side. I came up with a large mug of ice tea and sat on the high side. We had 1 reef in the main and the boat was heeled just 12 degrees. I remember checking because it was very easy to sit on the high side. I think our speed was around 8.5 knots. We caught that Benny in about 45 minutes. The Beneteau Ocean 46, which has about the same water length as my Whitby, was having troubles in the wind and swell. They had 2 reefs in the headsail, and 2 in the main and the guy at the helm was working hard. The boat was heeled over a tad over 20 degrees which is the prime spot on production boats. I remember looking at them and say: I love my new old boat. I waved and then kept drinking my tea. about an hour later we are at least a mile ahead. The wind starts to pick up to 25 knots. I thought that was a good time to test my staysail, so I rolled up the genoa and unrolled the staysail. The sheets were not ran right (I fixed that later) and I couldn't get it to stop spilling air and we were only doing 4 knots. I tried to furl the staysail but the furling line was too small and I didn't keep tension on it when I unfurled it so the line got jammed. I was messing with it for about a hour before I decided to just drop it and put it in the sail locker. By this time the Oceans had passed me and was a mile out front again. I unfurled the genoa but left about a reef in it. We caught up to them just as we were reaching our anchorage. I furled again because I didn't want to embarrass them just before pulling into the anchorage. They kept on going though...I guess they didn't want to be in the same anchorage as us :) Why was my boat so able to handle the situation better? Our keel is 16,000 lbs with all the weight just in the bottom foot of the encapsulated keel. The Oceans is just 6,000 lbs and it's weight goes all the way up to the hull. We can fly a lot more sail than they can and heel a lot less and have a much more comfortable ride. Quality of build and design matters. The new production boats are bare minimum quality and risky offshore but great for beer can racing in the med sea. This Oyster is a pretty good boat. Far better than any production boat build these days. About the only boat maker these days that makes something better is a Kraken but they start around 1.5 million dollars. The Krakens though are very similar to my Whitby. Same hull shape, same encapsulated fin keel, same protected rudder but not a ketch like mine.
I love the boat. Very much what I am looking for in the next three years. I wish I could afford it because I know how much work you put into the great yacht. Fingers crossed you find a good home for her. ❤
Capt. James you’ve made an awesome boat from a major project boat! Unfortunately the economy is very uncertain, and people are tightening their belts. 5 years ago it would have been sold already. I was in the keys for lobster mini season and it was eerily quiet.. well for mini season anyway. Looking forward to what you have next to come! GL selling her. Cheers 🍻
Wishing you all the best. I remember when Anna first came to the boat. You were toast! Great memories on the boat and so much better than when you first purchased. You've done everything beautifully with expert help when justified. If I did not own a Shannon 43, I'd be making you an offer.
Ah, boats of "a certain age". They can be beautiful - and demanding. As an owner of a Shannon 43, you know this. James has been an excellent owner of this Oyster 485, giving it all the attention it could possibly ask for. An informed buyer will get a great deal. Gotta say you're right though, a Shannon 43 is a boat to stay with. I worked for Walter in the mid eighties, launching the early 43's. I *loved* that boat. Lucky you! I'm selling a Freedom 40/40 now and looking for easier sail handling - probably a recent production boat. Sadly, they're harder to love but offer an old guy like me less of a physical challenge. Enjoy the 43 - One of the greatest boats I've known. And to James - best of luck!
@@doncoxe644 then you may now my boat. Hull #3. Originally called Splendor. We’ve returned her to great seaworthy condition and are now working on restoring her beauty. (Brightwork).
Awesome refit. The boat is in a niche category, bluewater center cockpit, so it’s going to take a bit longer to find the right buyer. Tough to be patient, but that’s what it’s going to take.
Beautiful boat with very nice upgrades. It shows obvious signs of care.We'd love to buy an Oyster and take it around the world, but our budget is only $150k. I hope you sell soon 😊
Hi James, I have watched your vids even before you bought this boat and have followed your process. It's amazing how you have restored it. As i am just retiring and want to sail the word I am in the market for a suitable vessel. Yours would definitely be match, if I had the funds to buy. Good luck with your sale, and with your new adventure together. BDY, I liked that Mill you looked at a lot. It could have an amazing potential to be something special. The win yard, although the view was spectacular, in my humble opinion, would have to be too much work, especially not knowing about the business Good luck on your search
Such a great freaking boat... but folks are wary of course. It's a different world out there. Good luck man. There is probably no better boat out there for that price.
Man, i have not watched one of your videos for a very long time. Wasnt showing up on my feed for some strange reason. Last one i saw was when you were taking on water on the first outing with her. Can't believe how much work you have put into her, she looks so much sharper and tidy. It's a shame your are selling up, but when a child comes along, your priorities change significantly. I watch another sailing channel on YT and they have a kid (im sure you know which one im talking about) and i cant help but think it's selfish keeping the kid isolated on a boat at such a young age, just because you want to keep sailing. They need to be socialising with other kids and be able to play out and do things kids do, not be couped up on a 60ft boat. It may be hard, but you're doing the best and right thing man.
James! We totally get it man, the birth of one's children often changes the entire program, and that's just fine. A man's gotta do what he and his SO feel is right for each different chapter of their lives. Didn't know you were in the Azores (for some reason I thought you were in Columbia?! 😄) The Azores a place that is way up there on my bucket list, every sailing TH-camr has raved about the place, and being far away from the madness of 'big society', sure sound like a fantastic thing to me at this time in the world. I'm sure you will have the time of your lives there for a good few years. And you have such a beautiful and well equipped boat, it's bound to move before too long, Hope to see you at Annapolis, you're an inspiration to so many of us, best wishes to you and Ana and little baby Luna Azul, she is one sugar-coated cutie, cheers!
I agree. It's not that great cruising with a little one. We did it for 2.5 years and gave up. He wasn't progressing much on the boat but started progressing very well on land. He is getting a bit older and plan on getting back out there in 2 years when he is 9. BTW: It's called a Keel Box. Much better than a bold onto the hull directly as the box absorbs stuff, but encapsulated is better :)
@@bens_light I think stub was the first name when they were little but as the got bigger started calling them keel box. Stubs are like 8 to 12 inches deep. On my Hunter it was 24 inches deep so it was a keel box. Keel box are only surpassed by encapsulated
@@bens_light Well, you may be right. I read 20 years ago about a keel box and it described what I had on my Hunter, but it seems others have used that term to describe something totally different.
Depends on the asset. Used tractors have skyrocketed in price. Pre DEF and pre emissions trucks are also, surprisingly, appreciating. I'm talking about 20+ year old trucks. Same as farm equipment. I bought a disk harrow 2 years ago for $2k and sold it last month for 2.5k.
It is a tough market for an older boat in the last year. Make sure you have an insurance commitment, seen a number of sales fall thru here in Seattle because buyers would not close without locked in insurance. Good luck
Jesus, I remember your first video. It's crazy that the time stamp shows that it's 7 years old already. Time flies when your having fun. Do you plan on getting another boat latter on in the future to continue the adventure or are you done? What type of boat would you get if you returned to sailing? Boat kids have the best education and tend to be much smarter than kids that go to public schools!
so true. Some years ago I followed a german family with 3 kids on board, one born while sailing. They sailed for years around the globe, later on teachers included. The children were so smart, knowing more languages, knowing so much about the sealife etc. This was before social media became so important, so they stoped in places they liked for longer periods, to work to get money necessary and to give the children the chance to make friends with local children! A life like that teaches children what life is all about!
Hi James, I've followed your videos off and on for a while now, if I were at the stage of my life where I was in the market for a world cruising boat, I'd definitely be considering yours. The Oyster 485 has been at the very top of my list for a "go anywhere" boat for several years, and I've been following the market for this particular vessel for quite a while, from back when you still had that catamaran. I think your price is reasonable, the market right now is crap, but even so, given the refit and upgrades as shown in the video, I think your boat presents a good value. I really like how you've got it set up, and I like the detail you show in the video of how everything is actually rigged. The right buyer will come along. I just sold my first keelboat, after upgrading to a larger vessel, it took two whole summers with lots of showings, and zero offers. I was getting really down on the boat, frustrated, and felt like it would never sell. Selling it happened very quickly, the price I got for it was better than I'd expected to be able to get in this market, and the new owner is absolutely thrilled with it. The right buyer is out there for your boat as well, and it'll happen eventually. I'll go and get a lottery ticket, and maybe it'll be me!
I just saw your boat on yacht sales for 299 for a 1993 & then I saw a 1992 for 179k & that looks awesome. while that one is on the market for that price you won't be selling your boat unless you drop your price by 100k.
99% of sailors are never doing ocean crossings, so they can either have a 30 year old boat or a larger, modern layout boat from this decade for the same money and not struggle to get a loan or insurance for it. Oysters are nice boats, but it's not 2021 and it makes more sense at $200,000, barely.
Dont forget that the whole world is entering a uncertain times and these days there are more and more regulations and many are getting layed off from work and companies are looking to hire cheap labor so not as much money out there anymore .
Yeah, no kidding. There are fully re-fitted, high end, true purpose built blue water boats (like this Oyster) out there, every bit as good as this for considerably less. Island Packet, Hinckley, Pacific Seacraft, Shannon, Little Harbor, etc... The list goes on. This boat isn't in the wheelhouse of 300k. This is the "I don't want to sell it price". So yeah, it's not gonna sell.
Exactly. It reminds me of a friend of mine who was selling a house, and said: "It has this feature, that feature, etc, it's worth XXX!" I told him, it's not worth a penny more than someone is willing to pay for it! He was dreaming... 300K for a 31 year old 49 foot boat? Sure sounds high to me...
Ugh. This is the worst forum for this conversation. Seriously, these comments are verbal diarrhea. If this boat were a car, it would be a Rolls Royce, with an original sticker price of $1.4 Million dollars. Two sisterships just sold for $410k and $300k last year. Find another Oyster in this condition for this price.... You can't. If you want an Island Packet, get that boat; it won't sail like an Oyster.
thanks to all of you for your comments and evaluation of the price on this particular thread. I am considering purchasing a used blue water boat, and it's enlightening to read additional comments concerning pricing at this stage of my search. Having said that, this is a magnificent boat. What do you think that insurance replacement costs would be if you were to lose it? Certainly not $300k. Sunk costs are hell. Best of luck, James!!
Such a beautiful boat, if we weren't working on finishing a boat to get on the water, i would be offering. That said, looking forward to Annapolis and meeting you in person.
Very nice yacht! With the two hurricanes needless to say we have an ice cold market. That plus many want to.m Avoid the winter storage charge with some just walking away. Best bet right now is wait till spring
Done 10,000's of miles on her smaller sister, a 435, this is sooooo familiar. I think 300K is a lot of money, for what, a mid-90's boat (?) ...and I never did understand in-mast furling. On the 435 we removed that, and flaked the main on the boom. I think, sadly, it's a buyers market and despite the obvious quality of an Oyster it's a tough sell at that price.
Hey my Brother! I told you the Azores are the bomb!! But you need to leave San Miguel and go to Terceria Island! Thats where i was stationed in the good ole NAVY. Ive been back and would love to live there. Your missing the bull runs! Much Love to the Family! ✝️🙏❤️🇺🇲⛵️👣🍍☘️🍍🍍🥰😎🤗
living out on the ocean is hard core dont blame you one bit...dont know how you did it as long as you did...all the drama scenes you lived thru! p.s. your boat is beautiful and it will sell no worries! love you bud take care and enjoy a normal life with your family. you can get a Hobie cat later to scratch the sailing itch!
This boat is kick butt no question about it. you know your stuff and has all the wish list of any sailor without a doubt. Not to be nosy but if I recall you used money from a kick starter campaign just curious how that would work as you sell your boat ?
That's not nosey, I get that a lot. I fulfilled the kickstarter obligations long ago. You can still see the campaign if you look it up, we raised money so we could do a season 2 of the show. We are on season 5 now. Much love, bud
Great boat in beautiful, ready to go, condition! My heart goes out to you that the market for all boats, and especially sailboats, is so depressed. Best wishes and good luck!
You have done an awesome job of getting her back top prestine condition. Like others have said it is a soft market for sailboats or any other boat for that matter. Huge price drops, be better to hang on on for a bit and not lose your shirt. Be patient, l realize that is a lot of capital to hang on to, but things are going to get better once the election is done. Everybody is being cautious right now. Good luck with it. Congratulations on the new family member. Kids give you purpose in life.
What a beautiful boat. Being a total land lubber I plan to take a 5 day sailing course in February to see if I even like it. If I do and if she's still available I'll contact you.
Beautiful example of a proper blue water cruiser capable of getting you anywhere in the world safely and in comfort. Looks an Excellent specification. Water maker, decent solar array, star link etc. Sure, you can buy a much more modern production boat for the same price, and if you are not looking to cruise offshore and are happy to take a bigger depreciation hit, it may be a better option - but if you are looking to cruise offshore, the smart money is on this boat. Good luck with the sale
Nice looking boat, and much bigger than my 38 footer, but I only paid $25k (plus $17k for brand new sails that I didn't really need since the sails it came with are simply old, with no rips or patches). I hope you find a buyer, but I think it's a pretty small niche of people who can afford what you're asking but can't afford a more expensive newer boat. I've seen quite a few 30-40 foot boats change hands in the last couple years, not so much the larger boats.
Awesome boat she is beautiful man if you can afford it I would keep the boat. I understand kids change your lives, but one day you gonna want to get back on that boat and you got the perfect boat for it. Just a thought but I understand too when we all need the money awesome boat.
In my experience, the best place to buy is at the remote end of a long passage. Reality, age, and entropy in all its forms can show that a thing is worth what someone will pay you for it, nothing more. I know 2 French guys who came out to raiatea and spent10k & 30k respectively, oneboat ready-to-go, food still good, one needed to be towed and a patch welded.. I know a mechanic who apologetically offered a widow what he could afford - 19k - which she accepted.... all were around 10% of what was originally hoped for. Stuff happens, so don't lose hope if you'd love to, but can't deal with the 6 figure asks, look around.
I would like to buy a well-maintained boat with a story like yours, even if it is a bit more expensive than it is worth. I hope you sell it as soon as possible. If I were you, I would give a promotion to speed up the sale. For example, an ocean crossing experience....
Hi James, I,m a current owner of a CS36 and looking to move up and start my sailing adventures on a bigger "blue water" boat. As a long time follower, I love your boat and what you have done. Is the boat still available?
It's overpriced. there is a good condition 1992 Oyster nearby for $179k that has dropped it price... insurance will be an issue for a boat of this vintage, obtaining a loan, if needed, will be problematic as well. Good luck.
Agreed we have a newer 1999 485 in nz looks to be in very good condition hasn’t sold for 4 years and asking 160k USD Boats that are 30 years old are like dropped pies no 1 wants them.
@@michaelwilliams5132 Dropped pies.... I love it. My mother who was a nurse in WW2 taught me to eat everything that I drop on the ground, no matter where. I don't ever get sick and I'm 80. On zero medications. She died young unfortunately. Hit by a bus, not pretty. I was 17. Made me live for the moment.
That 1992 Oyster is parked right next to mine. I invite you to see both. There is a reason that one has been for sale for more than a year. These models are so different you're comparing apples and oranges.
Thanks for watching!! Don't forget to LIKE the video. Please come see me at the boat show! -J
She looks good James, what's your ball park estimate for her?
Have a ripper mate and stay safe!
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Me thinks you have an opportunity here.
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Hi Bro, have you found a place yet? I have a camping for sale in the alentejo. let me know if you would like to have more info.
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Are you going to give all the donors from the gofundme page their money back. They donated all this money to you to make more sailing videos but now you stopped sailing. Dont be such a fraud, give it back or give it to charity.
@@rohantherockwiththerocketh7871 Asking price is $299k. You can see the ad here: www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1993-oyster-485-9400025/
Hi, firstly may I congratulate you on how well you appear to have kept the boat, she looks in super condition, a real credit to you, well done. I used to work for Oyster Brokerage in the UK from 2000 - 2017 and have sold and sailed many 485's over the years, they are one of my favourite boats to this day, super lines, all in proportion and great sea boat too. In a bid to be helpful, If I can suggest that 4 months is still relatively early in Oyster terms, we did an exercise once at Oyster UK and worked out the the average conversion time from initial enquiry to date of purchase was approximately 4 years. Buyers for these type of boats are often planning life changing adventures, they may be selling houses, properties or simply just trying to find a way to make time to enjoy these wonderful boats. I am not suggesting you have to wait for 4 years, just simply explaining that oyster buyers are often a slow burn. That said, if I have a boat that is not selling, personally I look at 3 things, price, condition and location. Your boat appears to be in good condition, and I'm guessing it is relatively assessable for viewing, so you might want to think about making a reduction, I suggest you normally need to reduce by about 10% to have significant impact. However, do speak to your broker and discuss it with them, they will understand how the market is in your location and i'm sure will want to help you sell. Good luck with it all. Kind regards Matt
The birth of your first child changes everything that’s how I felt when you were born.❤️ love you son.
You wanted to sell your boat, mom? That’s so sweet!
@@thelastpirate😂
@@thelastpirateI think she wanted to sell you and keep the boat, but alas, democracy and all that jazz
Not the first child he has an adult son.
@@propertymanagement7011 do you know something I don’t know?
Gorgeous boat. Someone is going to get a deal. I wish it were me, but that won't be for 5+ years. The best part of boats like this is that someone else (you) have put all the sweat equity into it. You've already figured out what works and what doesn't, and tested it at sea. You've equipped it for real offshore sailing, and for living at anchor. Someone could pay much, much more for a production boat, and then STILL have to equip it to go offshore and live off grid. I sure hope to find a boat like this when the time comes. Don't lower your price, James! You'll find someone smart enough to know the value of a well-equipped vessel!
Captain James, long time watcher, first time commenter. A beautiful rig, sailed and showcased meticulously. Thanks for all the inspiration you have provided over the years. I'll continue to watch whatever path you choose. More importantly, Congratulations on your amazing family! Wish you all the best. Siempre Listo!
Thanks for the comment, George. Much love from Portugal :)
It’s a tough audience in here James, my skin wouldn’t be thick enough to deal with it. I love your candidness and I hope you find a buyer soon, the boat looks magnificent.
Par for the coarse when you make videos on this platform, though this really cemented my desire create some educational content about how boats are built, how they've changed, and what makes a good bluewater boat. Thanks for the kudos, Jeff.
Clueless boomers think the platform has anything to do with it. Life's pretty comfortable in your echo chamber huh
I have been cruising, for the last ten years, in a boat that I paid $20,000 for (and repowered it with a used engine I paid $100 for). I could afford a new Oyster but never wanted to tie that much money up in a depreciation asset like a boat. I also draw comfort from the fact that I could, in theory, afford to beach the boat and walk away from it, at any time, if things got tough.
same as me . i paid $23k for a yacht that i live on and sail off shore . less is more and can walk away anytime
50K for my 424. Same concept. Buy a boat you can afford to lose (or walk away from) .
$20,000
Us too. $10k (for a $35k boat, shop in Canada!) 10 yrs of cruising and living our best lives. We have several friends trying to unload expensive sailboats - the market is tough and all their retirement money is locked up.. and dropping.
Man if I had the money I would buy. We saw all the work you did to bring her back to life. Hope the next chapter in life goes well for you.
Beautiful boat. I look forward to the land adventures. Thanks for taking us all along.
Damn that boat is in tippy top shape, clearly you have done a ton of work & didn't take shortcuts. Beautiful.
With 300K I would by a nice property/finca/house in Portugal, Corsica or Greece and not a 30 year old sailboat. Which means a never ending story of boat jobs and costs of another ton of money. 🙂 Love your honesty James.
Good call. :)
Two greatest days in a boat owners life………..
don't forget Sardinia!
Your sailboat is absolutely beautiful. Best to you and your family. 🤗
Thank you! You too!
All I have is a big heart and much love to have a sailing boat. Much Love and Many Blessings
You did a magnificent job refurbishing her. Some one will appreciate it.
That is a nice boat, I do hope you find the right buyer for it. It is a bit of a shame to see you get your boat all nicely fixed up, then not take it on many adventures. But yes that is life! Hope you find your next home soon!
I have a beautiful 1980 Cape Dory 25 on a dual axle Trailer. New this was 27 k and I can’t even sell it for 4900. Sailboat market is beyond dead because boat slips are 500 a month and haul out are very expensive. I see Alberg 27 for 1,000
Best of luck selling your very well presented boat. I have had a look through the comments and many of them are absolutely hilarious, with many giving their opinions on ‘what it is worth’ and coming up with ridiculous values. I tell you this people - the only person who fixes the value of this (or any) boat is the buyer.
Timeless, quality boat. Well maintained. I gotta say she looks beautiful.
Watching the tour and remembering the first tour you gave after you first got her… quite an impressive difference! Best of luck.
its gotta be killin you to see that beautiful boat sittin on the hard lookin so good, and thinkin about it in the water 30 degrees over and just gittin it
Hahaha. Every day I think about going to get her and bring her down here. We'll see, if it doesn't sell that is exactly what I'm going to do.
Hey James,
I cut and pasted this comment... I totally agree with it and I feel it says all I could say. I will absolutely keep following your channel. Thanks mate!👍👍👍
"Captain James, long time watcher, first time commenter. A beautiful rig, sailed and showcased meticulously. Thanks for all the inspiration you have provided over the years. I'll continue to watch whatever path you choose. More importantly, Congratulations on your amazing family! Wish you all the best. Siempre Listo!"
I love this boat. Really love her. If only I could afford it. It is well worth what you are asking. It's amazing.
James, if you're gonna be in the Açores near that marina maybe you could keep the boat and do day sails or small cruises between islands? Whale watching tours, diving, etc.
That's not a bad idea! :) It's cheap to have a boat there too.
@@thelastpirate I'll definitely want to go on a whalewatching/fishing tour with you when I visit the Azores!
its amazing what us blokes have to give up in a relation ship .... keep doing your tours James
New buyers often compare similar year boats and then say you are overpriced. They miss the point that your boat is nearly knew and the other boat is original. Just a new Nortern Lights generator is 13k not including installation. Sails 30k. Lithium batteries with new inverters 25k.
I just sold my Hinckley 49 with beaufptifully upgraded systems throughout. Great sea boat safe and reliable. It was worth 245k. It took a year to get 185k. I think location here is an issue but anyone who knows James skill and the documentation are missing a great boat. Just look at the new couple on TH-cam who were going to cross the Atlantic and when they put the boat in the yard the keel came thru the salon. Buy upfitted quality
I saw that video. I felt bad for them. But they didn't do their "do diligence". They picked a fin keel spade rudder coastal cruiser to be their blue water boat. They should have been looking for something more like Jame's Oyster.
Really sad that you are giving up sailing. You are the reason (and plucky 😋) I have started my sailing journey. However you are now on another amazing adventure, I wish you, anna and baby all the best. Please keep dropping videos and if you ever get back on the water there are lots of people waiting.
Also when plucky gets his CAT on the water, please visit him and help with shake down, you 2 are dynamite together.
As tragic as it sounds, that’s a $175k boat. Thats the market. It’s worth what someone will pay.
He doesn't want to hear it, he likes living in a self-congratulating echo chamber.
OK boat valuation expert/troll
Maybe you should get in the yacht sales business….. oh wait you don’t actually know anything! Shut up stupid
What a dream boat, it has everything. I watched your channel when you had the wrecked catamaran and didn’t even know you upgraded but this is a really nice one. I like the cabin in the rear.
It is understandable, especially from the salesmanship of the production boat builders and their salesmen about 'advanced tech' and stuff that there is a misunderstanding of what a good offshore boat is these days. I would like to share an experience I had one day in the Caribbean. It was 2019 and we had our current boat, a Whitby 55 for only a few months. We had to make a lot of changes to make it mine...make it ready for cruising. It was never really a cruising boat...more of a dock queen boat which is sad.
We were leaving Tyrell Bay in Grenada heading to Bequia, a good 4-6 hour sail. The wind was around 20 knots. It was just our second sail on her. There was a new Oceans 46 about a mile ahead of us. I remember wondering if they were going the same place we were. Anyway, I got the sails up and after rounding the corner heading north I set the autopilot and went down below with my wife and baby boy in the cockpit on the low side. I came up with a large mug of ice tea and sat on the high side. We had 1 reef in the main and the boat was heeled just 12 degrees. I remember checking because it was very easy to sit on the high side. I think our speed was around 8.5 knots. We caught that Benny in about 45 minutes.
The Beneteau Ocean 46, which has about the same water length as my Whitby, was having troubles in the wind and swell. They had 2 reefs in the headsail, and 2 in the main and the guy at the helm was working hard. The boat was heeled over a tad over 20 degrees which is the prime spot on production boats. I remember looking at them and say: I love my new old boat. I waved and then kept drinking my tea.
about an hour later we are at least a mile ahead. The wind starts to pick up to 25 knots. I thought that was a good time to test my staysail, so I rolled up the genoa and unrolled the staysail. The sheets were not ran right (I fixed that later) and I couldn't get it to stop spilling air and we were only doing 4 knots. I tried to furl the staysail but the furling line was too small and I didn't keep tension on it when I unfurled it so the line got jammed. I was messing with it for about a hour before I decided to just drop it and put it in the sail locker.
By this time the Oceans had passed me and was a mile out front again. I unfurled the genoa but left about a reef in it. We caught up to them just as we were reaching our anchorage. I furled again because I didn't want to embarrass them just before pulling into the anchorage. They kept on going though...I guess they didn't want to be in the same anchorage as us :)
Why was my boat so able to handle the situation better? Our keel is 16,000 lbs with all the weight just in the bottom foot of the encapsulated keel. The Oceans is just 6,000 lbs and it's weight goes all the way up to the hull. We can fly a lot more sail than they can and heel a lot less and have a much more comfortable ride.
Quality of build and design matters. The new production boats are bare minimum quality and risky offshore but great for beer can racing in the med sea. This Oyster is a pretty good boat. Far better than any production boat build these days. About the only boat maker these days that makes something better is a Kraken but they start around 1.5 million dollars. The Krakens though are very similar to my Whitby. Same hull shape, same encapsulated fin keel, same protected rudder but not a ketch like mine.
I love the boat. Very much what I am looking for in the next three years. I wish I could afford it because I know how much work you put into the great yacht. Fingers crossed you find a good home for her. ❤
Capt. James you’ve made an awesome boat from a major project boat! Unfortunately the economy is very uncertain, and people are tightening their belts. 5 years ago it would have been sold already. I was in the keys for lobster mini season and it was eerily quiet.. well for mini season anyway. Looking forward to what you have next to come! GL selling her. Cheers 🍻
Wishing you all the best. I remember when Anna first came to the boat. You were toast! Great memories on the boat and so much better than when you first purchased. You've done everything beautifully with expert help when justified. If I did not own a Shannon 43, I'd be making you an offer.
Ah, boats of "a certain age". They can be beautiful - and demanding. As an owner of a Shannon 43, you know this. James has been an excellent owner of this Oyster 485, giving it all the attention it could possibly ask for. An informed buyer will get a great deal. Gotta say you're right though, a Shannon 43 is a boat to stay with. I worked for Walter in the mid eighties, launching the early 43's. I *loved* that boat. Lucky you! I'm selling a Freedom 40/40 now and looking for easier sail handling - probably a recent production boat. Sadly, they're harder to love but offer an old guy like me less of a physical challenge. Enjoy the 43 - One of the greatest boats I've known. And to James - best of luck!
@@doncoxe644 then you may now my boat. Hull #3. Originally called Splendor. We’ve returned her to great seaworthy condition and are now working on restoring her beauty. (Brightwork).
Awesome refit. The boat is in a niche category, bluewater center cockpit, so it’s going to take a bit longer to find the right buyer. Tough to be patient, but that’s what it’s going to take.
Beautiful little girl, what a blessing!! Your boat is awesome and very beautiful too! All the best in your efforts to sell the boat!
She looks in great shape. I hope you find a buyer soon. I'm happy to hear you're staying on TH-cam 🤗💞
woow thats a really lovely boat James how lucky someone will be to own this one ... keep the price its worth every penny how beautiful is she
That Boat is Beautiful! I WISH!!!❤
Perhaps you could do a video of the top 10 differences between higher and lower quality boats and hence how the large price differences come about.
That is a fantastic idea
@@thelastpirateI agree. Very good idea.
It's amazing how big that thing is under the waterline. It's like a guppy. Good luck with the sale.
Beautiful boat with very nice upgrades. It shows obvious signs of care.We'd love to buy an Oyster and take it around the world, but our budget is only $150k. I hope you sell soon 😊
Beautiful boat man, very nicely set up. Hope you get what you deserve and you need.
Amazing boat, she will sell soon, no doubt about it!
It's definitely a gorgeous sail ⛵️ boat.
Would love owning it.
So very clean and sharp! Always loved this one…
Hi James, I have watched your vids even before you bought this boat and have followed your process. It's amazing how you have restored it. As i am just retiring and want to sail the word I am in the market for a suitable vessel. Yours would definitely be match, if I had the funds to buy. Good luck with your sale, and with your new adventure together. BDY, I liked that Mill you looked at a lot. It could have an amazing potential to be something special. The win yard, although the view was spectacular, in my humble opinion, would have to be too much work, especially not knowing about the business
Good luck on your search
Such a great freaking boat... but folks are wary of course. It's a different world out there.
Good luck man. There is probably no better boat out there for that price.
Man, i have not watched one of your videos for a very long time. Wasnt showing up on my feed for some strange reason. Last one i saw was when you were taking on water on the first outing with her.
Can't believe how much work you have put into her, she looks so much sharper and tidy. It's a shame your are selling up, but when a child comes along, your priorities change significantly.
I watch another sailing channel on YT and they have a kid (im sure you know which one im talking about) and i cant help but think it's selfish keeping the kid isolated on a boat at such a young age, just because you want to keep sailing. They need to be socialising with other kids and be able to play out and do things kids do, not be couped up on a 60ft boat.
It may be hard, but you're doing the best and right thing man.
Thanks for refitting a fine vessel to her original glory, and good luck with the sale.
It being owned by you should get it sold. Our fav sailing youtuber owned it! That's like owning magnum P.I.'s ferrari!!
@@peteh8077 You are mistaken.
Great boat. We have been seeing sailing well too. Good luck on the sale.
James! We totally get it man, the birth of one's children often changes the entire program, and that's just fine. A man's gotta do what he and his SO feel is right for each different chapter of their lives.
Didn't know you were in the Azores (for some reason I thought you were in Columbia?! 😄) The Azores a place that is way up there on my bucket list, every sailing TH-camr has raved about the place, and being far away from the madness of 'big society', sure sound like a fantastic thing to me at this time in the world. I'm sure you will have the time of your lives there for a good few years. And you have such a beautiful and well equipped boat, it's bound to move before too long,
Hope to see you at Annapolis, you're an inspiration to so many of us, best wishes to you and Ana and little baby Luna Azul, she is one sugar-coated cutie, cheers!
Awe that was such a sweet comment. Thanks my brother.
I agree. It's not that great cruising with a little one. We did it for 2.5 years and gave up. He wasn't progressing much on the boat but started progressing very well on land. He is getting a bit older and plan on getting back out there in 2 years when he is 9.
BTW: It's called a Keel Box. Much better than a bold onto the hull directly as the box absorbs stuff, but encapsulated is better :)
I heard the term keel stub before...
@@bens_light I think stub was the first name when they were little but as the got bigger started calling them keel box. Stubs are like 8 to 12 inches deep. On my Hunter it was 24 inches deep so it was a keel box. Keel box are only surpassed by encapsulated
If I google keel box, its showing images of basically an inverted keel stub, a big box towards inside of the hull... 😮
@@bens_light Well, you may be right. I read 20 years ago about a keel box and it described what I had on my Hunter, but it seems others have used that term to describe something totally different.
Damn James, the Oyster is looking sweet!! 😍⛵️
Gorgeous!! You should do charter until she sells. Doing charter is doing advertising but you get paid for it...
asset values have crashed. no one has realized it yet. but yes.. very nice boat
Depends on the asset. Used tractors have skyrocketed in price. Pre DEF and pre emissions trucks are also, surprisingly, appreciating. I'm talking about 20+ year old trucks. Same as farm equipment. I bought a disk harrow 2 years ago for $2k and sold it last month for 2.5k.
It is a tough market for an older boat in the last year. Make sure you have an insurance commitment, seen a number of sales fall thru here in Seattle because buyers would not close without locked in insurance. Good luck
Wow! This boat is spectacular!
It'll sell, just gotta get the right buyer. The market for big ticket items has been softening lately.
Jesus, I remember your first video. It's crazy that the time stamp shows that it's 7 years old already. Time flies when your having fun. Do you plan on getting another boat latter on in the future to continue the adventure or are you done? What type of boat would you get if you returned to sailing? Boat kids have the best education and tend to be much smarter than kids that go to public schools!
so true. Some years ago I followed a german family with 3 kids on board, one born while sailing. They sailed for years around the globe, later on teachers included. The children were so smart, knowing more languages, knowing so much about the sealife etc. This was before social media became so important, so they stoped in places they liked for longer periods, to work to get money necessary and to give the children the chance to make friends with local children! A life like that teaches children what life is all about!
Hi James, I've followed your videos off and on for a while now, if I were at the stage of my life where I was in the market for a world cruising boat, I'd definitely be considering yours. The Oyster 485 has been at the very top of my list for a "go anywhere" boat for several years, and I've been following the market for this particular vessel for quite a while, from back when you still had that catamaran. I think your price is reasonable, the market right now is crap, but even so, given the refit and upgrades as shown in the video, I think your boat presents a good value. I really like how you've got it set up, and I like the detail you show in the video of how everything is actually rigged. The right buyer will come along. I just sold my first keelboat, after upgrading to a larger vessel, it took two whole summers with lots of showings, and zero offers. I was getting really down on the boat, frustrated, and felt like it would never sell. Selling it happened very quickly, the price I got for it was better than I'd expected to be able to get in this market, and the new owner is absolutely thrilled with it. The right buyer is out there for your boat as well, and it'll happen eventually. I'll go and get a lottery ticket, and maybe it'll be me!
I just saw your boat on yacht sales for 299 for a 1993 & then I saw a 1992 for 179k & that looks awesome. while that one is on the market for that price you won't be selling your boat unless you drop your price by 100k.
She looks beautiful and well cared for. Just wish I had money.
99% of sailors are never doing ocean crossings, so they can either have a 30 year old boat or a larger, modern layout boat from this decade for the same money and not struggle to get a loan or insurance for it. Oysters are nice boats, but it's not 2021 and it makes more sense at $200,000, barely.
Dont forget that the whole world is entering a uncertain times and these days there are more and more regulations and many are getting layed off from work and companies are looking to hire cheap labor so not as much money out there anymore .
@@Richard-up9gb Yes, but they want us ignore what our eyes see and just believe the narrative.
A 31 year old 49' boat w a LWL of 39 feet... For 300k. And you genuinely aren't sure why it's not going to sell for even half that? 😮
Yeah, no kidding. There are fully re-fitted, high end, true purpose built blue water boats (like this Oyster) out there, every bit as good as this for considerably less. Island Packet, Hinckley, Pacific Seacraft, Shannon, Little Harbor, etc... The list goes on. This boat isn't in the wheelhouse of 300k. This is the "I don't want to sell it price". So yeah, it's not gonna sell.
Exactly. It reminds me of a friend of mine who was selling a house, and said: "It has this feature, that feature, etc, it's worth XXX!" I told him, it's not worth a penny more than someone is willing to pay for it! He was dreaming...
300K for a 31 year old 49 foot boat? Sure sounds high to me...
Ugh. This is the worst forum for this conversation. Seriously, these comments are verbal diarrhea. If this boat were a car, it would be a Rolls Royce, with an original sticker price of $1.4 Million dollars. Two sisterships just sold for $410k and $300k last year. Find another Oyster in this condition for this price.... You can't. If you want an Island Packet, get that boat; it won't sail like an Oyster.
thanks to all of you for your comments and evaluation of the price on this particular thread. I am considering purchasing a used blue water boat, and it's enlightening to read additional comments concerning pricing at this stage of my search. Having said that, this is a magnificent boat. What do you think that insurance replacement costs would be if you were to lose it? Certainly not $300k. Sunk costs are hell. Best of luck, James!!
@@thelastpirateverbal diarrhea? Want to see what kind of catamaran I can buy for 300k? You should've quit sailing a long time ago. You're a tuber.
Such a beautiful boat, if we weren't working on finishing a boat to get on the water, i would be offering. That said, looking forward to Annapolis and meeting you in person.
Excellent review good luck.
Nice lines on that boat
Will you give all the people who donated money to help you refit
this boat their $ back?
Yeah right 😂
Very nice yacht! With the two hurricanes needless to say we have an ice cold market. That plus many want to.m Avoid the winter storage charge with some just walking away. Best bet right now is wait till spring
Done 10,000's of miles on her smaller sister, a 435, this is sooooo familiar. I think 300K is a lot of money, for what, a mid-90's boat (?) ...and I never did understand in-mast furling. On the 435 we removed that, and flaked the main on the boom. I think, sadly, it's a buyers market and despite the obvious quality of an Oyster it's a tough sell at that price.
A solid platform, one of the better ones out there. Fingers crossed your contingency plans will work out :)
Hey my Brother! I told you the Azores are the bomb!! But you need to leave San Miguel and go to Terceria Island! Thats where i was stationed in the good ole NAVY. Ive been back and would love to live there. Your missing the bull runs! Much Love to the Family! ✝️🙏❤️🇺🇲⛵️👣🍍☘️🍍🍍🥰😎🤗
living out on the ocean is hard core dont blame you one bit...dont know how you did it as long as you did...all the drama scenes you lived thru! p.s. your boat is beautiful and it will sell no worries! love you bud take care and enjoy a normal life with your family. you can get a Hobie cat later to scratch the sailing itch!
I just bought a smaller Oyster that was recently refurbished to top condition (like yours). I couldn't believe the quality I got for the price I paid.
Everything sells for a price. IF price is too high it will not sell.
This boat is kick butt no question about it. you know your stuff and has all the wish list of any sailor without a doubt. Not to be nosy but if I recall you used money from a kick starter campaign just curious how that would work as you sell your boat ?
That's not nosey, I get that a lot. I fulfilled the kickstarter obligations long ago. You can still see the campaign if you look it up, we raised money so we could do a season 2 of the show. We are on season 5 now. Much love, bud
Great boat in beautiful, ready to go, condition! My heart goes out to you that the market for all boats, and especially sailboats, is so depressed. Best wishes and good luck!
dude the teak on the back was a great idea
You have done an awesome job of getting her back top prestine condition. Like others have said it is a soft market for sailboats or any other boat for that matter. Huge price drops, be better to hang on on for a bit and not lose your shirt. Be patient, l realize that is a lot of capital to hang on to, but things are going to get better once the election is done. Everybody is being cautious right now. Good luck with it. Congratulations on the new family member. Kids give you purpose in life.
I agree just hold till after elections don't let that boat slip away for less
@@franksmith137 what are u smokin
This is great news … for me, I mean. I have been waiting for the right time…. Its coming 😊😊😊😊
A Perkins 4.236 with a Hurth. Great, solid combination.
She is a dream boat! ❤❤❤
What a beautiful boat. Being a total land lubber I plan to take a 5 day sailing course in February to see if I even like it. If I do and if she's still available I'll contact you.
PS. Congrats on your amazing family
Beautiful example of a proper blue water cruiser capable of getting you anywhere in the world safely and in comfort. Looks an Excellent specification. Water maker, decent solar array, star link etc. Sure, you can buy a much more modern production boat for the same price, and if you are not looking to cruise offshore and are happy to take a bigger depreciation hit, it may be a better option - but if you are looking to cruise offshore, the smart money is on this boat. Good luck with the sale
Beautiful boat.
PLEASE keep your podcast going!
Nice looking boat, and much bigger than my 38 footer, but I only paid $25k (plus $17k for brand new sails that I didn't really need since the sails it came with are simply old, with no rips or patches). I hope you find a buyer, but I think it's a pretty small niche of people who can afford what you're asking but can't afford a more expensive newer boat. I've seen quite a few 30-40 foot boats change hands in the last couple years, not so much the larger boats.
A beautiful boat ❤.
Awesome boat she is beautiful man if you can afford it I would keep the boat. I understand kids change your lives, but one day you gonna want to get back on that boat and you got the perfect boat for it. Just a thought but I understand too when we all need the money awesome boat.
In my experience, the best place to buy is at the remote end of a long passage. Reality, age, and entropy in all its forms can show that a thing is worth what someone will pay you for it, nothing more. I know 2 French guys who came out to raiatea and spent10k & 30k respectively, oneboat ready-to-go, food still good, one needed to be towed and a patch welded.. I know a mechanic who apologetically offered a widow what he could afford - 19k - which she accepted.... all were around 10% of what was originally hoped for.
Stuff happens, so don't lose hope if you'd love to, but can't deal with the 6 figure asks, look around.
The Oyster looks so good. Im surprised it has'nt sold asap.
Gorgeous yacht.
I would like to buy a well-maintained boat with a story like yours, even if it is a bit more expensive than it is worth. I hope you sell it as soon as possible. If I were you, I would give a promotion to speed up the sale. For example, an ocean crossing experience....
Lovely boat, really really nice. But $300,000 is crazy
Hi James,
I,m a current owner of a CS36 and looking to move up and start my sailing adventures on a bigger "blue water" boat. As a long time follower, I love your boat and what you have done. Is the boat still available?
It's overpriced. there is a good condition 1992 Oyster nearby for $179k that has dropped it price... insurance will be an issue for a boat of this vintage, obtaining a loan, if needed, will be problematic as well. Good luck.
Agreed we have a newer 1999 485 in nz looks to be in very good condition hasn’t sold for 4 years and asking 160k USD
Boats that are 30 years old are like dropped pies no 1 wants them.
@@michaelwilliams5132
Dropped pies.... I love it. My mother who was a nurse in WW2 taught me to eat everything that I drop on the ground, no matter where. I don't ever get sick and I'm 80. On zero medications. She died young unfortunately. Hit by a bus, not pretty. I was 17. Made me live for the moment.
That 1992 Oyster is parked right next to mine. I invite you to see both. There is a reason that one has been for sale for more than a year. These models are so different you're comparing apples and oranges.
Correct. Any real sailor will seek out a sturdy ocean going yacht (my preference is steel or Aluminium) $300k is nothing compared to a flimsy Cat.
Most are going for 1\2 the list cost so your right at the right price.
Awesome boat she is beautiful
But where is she located now??
No solar? And soon as I commented you mentioned the solar at the end😂😂
@thelastpirate Azores looks EPIC, I was looking at properties there too! Where about are you looking? Do you surf? I’m keen for waves and a new life 😎