Hi Amy, so sorry to hear your experience having purchased SV Fiona. That vessel has a massive historical value indeed Captain Eric Forsyth received the Cruising Club of America gold medal in 2000 on one of his voyages aboard Fiona the highest World Wide award given to civilian sailors. In my opinion SV Fiona must be preserved if not by your good-self but really by the family or a USA maritime museum. I personally crewed on SV Fiona with Captain Eric across the Bay of Biscay in 2015 in a force 9 gale, we got absolutely smashed in mountainous seas but Fiona bought us to Portugal eventually. She truly is a remarkable vessel albeit now needing a full refit. Perhaps you could try a go fund me project and document the refit on TH-cam?
Truly sorry you're dealing with this. I hope you can find some peace...soon. Thanks for sharing such a detailed accounting of the issues; all who watch are wiser for it.
Thanks for your video , it’s an eye opener ! You are strong and bold and damaged emotionally right now ! You will make it back it’s in your DNA ! Stay strong and be true to yourself!
Please don't give up on your dream. I loved all your videos and would certainly support you through Patron. Take a deep breath, accept this as a life-lesson and get back on the water! Your fans miss you!
For years and years I enjoyed following Eric and his adventures on Fiona. After Eric’s passing I saw Fiona was for sale and couldn’t believe it was listed at $20 k. I also saw the pics showing the wind vane attached. I have not done my due diligence on a few sailboats in the past and what on one I thought I could have work done myself and back on the water in a few months became 3 years and was definitely not worth out from any angle. I believe I would rather go into debt on a purchase price and be on the water sails up and being taught scary lessons by the ocean than roll the dice and with no survey. Costly experience, learn from it . If the $9k is still being offered by Eric’s kids thank your lucky stars and take it with appreciation. Imho
Never make decisions from fear. This alone will ruin your life. Make decisions from love, courage, from the heart. The mind gets frustrated but the heart knows the way. It’s a very quiet voice that is heard in silence
You are the captain of your own faith, no matter where you go from here. And I hope that when the dust settles, you'll regain your love for the ocean, and I hope this won't be the last we will see of you. Because though you have received a good beating now, you still appear to be solid and real. The world needs more people like you. So, if you choose to continue this channel like a boat restoration channel, I'll gladly tune in every time you release a video. If not. You are still the kind of person the world needs in it , and I'm sure you'll create a great future for yourself, and I wish you the best of luck. You deserve it. Best regards, Jarle
You definitely hit a hard stretch, Amy. I'm sorry for your situation, but you hold yourself together well, which is commendable. You are strong. You're going to be alright. This may not come out sounding sensitive, but it is true: count your blessings. If you only focus on being wet while it is raining, you don't bother to think that the sun will shine again. It will. You will be amazed at how good it feels when, even in catastrophe, you remember that all of life is a blessing. Take pride in knowing that you have handled this problem like a champ.
Thanks! I am a bit suprised and disappointed at some of the mean comments on here. Com'on people. No need to kick someone when they're down. We all make mistakes unless we never do anything or learn anything. I appreciate her honesty and hard work.
❤️ Thabk you so very much! I truly appreciate it. Some of the comments are vicious. Guess I should’ve expected it. Not sure they realize that I purposely made the video so that others are hopefully able to learn from my mistakes.
@@SebastianParagraph This is so true! Everything Amy said in this video is totally valid, and I applaud you for telling your story. Until buying an old sailboat and uncovering so many issues, I too would have never known how tough and mentally draining it can be. I am sad to hear that you deleted all your accounts and quit life on the water, but you should trust your gut. Much respect and love to you Amy!
@AmysSoloSailingAdventures we do this is boating and we do it in aviation. Some people are just miserable douchebags that will come in and state the obvious over and over again. Even after it was said six times by the people above them in the comments. Fuck em
@@calanpeet Surprised and disappointed at “mean” comments? We all make mistakes but running from the problem or giving up instead of fighting for what’s right is why most comments are so negative towards her!
@AmysSoloSailingAdventures : for what it's worth, I'm old. I downsized to likely my last boat. It looked like hell, but it was structurally sound. I spent about double the purchase price on a used engine and brand new quality sails. ( I've found sailboats sail poorly with bad sails). There isn't much interior, but all the wood has been replaced and new cushions. Our winters are long, I just worked when I could, and now there is a minor amount of yearly maintenance. It's a much better boat than when I bought it, but probably worth the same.
With your mechanical experience and your type of determination I can't imagine you not reaching your goals . I think you should take a step back and let the universe realign itself , we all need you !
I know that heartache all to well unfortunately. 20 years ago me and my 42’ vintage Wooden Egg Harbor cabin cruiser. I spent 77k completing the restoration and new diesel Yanmar engines. I did all the work and it took thousands of man hours. I worked tirelessly for a decade finishing it. I foolishly decided to take her out by myself. I couldn’t wait so I took off for a ride to the Vineyard. 20 minutes into the ride the boat listed to port. To make a long story shorter, a sunken below the waterline telephone pole was floating. It came into the boat up front and traveled all the way to the engine room. My dream was cooked!! My insurance survey hadn’t been completed so I got NOTHING from insurance. So YES I know how bad it sucks. You made a good decision to take a break at the very least. Good luck on your journey ✌️❤️🇺🇸😎
Sorry brother, you've got me beat - but I took a similar beating. Can't get that time/$$$ back... Sometimes junk is junk - even if it's nostalgic junk.
If the sellers were not (are not) able to convey free title for the vessel, that suggests that the sale was not completed and that you should get a full refund.
Crushing. Take a deep breath and a reset vacation. The sea will never leave your soul. If you need a place to reset, Vida Libre is by herself. Take care.
Since the boat is tied up in probate they legally could not sell the boat. They can't complete the transaction so you deserve every penny back and you should get your money back.
Idk. It's a shitty situation, but "buyer beware." This is why there are surveyors. She seems like she should have been able to see all this herself. Did she just peak inside and pay?
Since she took the boat all apart she can't get he money back because it's not in same condition as she bought it but I wouldn't buy anything without a title or a survey it's like giving someone money and you don't get a title it might not even be the person selling the item being their's to sell But good luck no matter what you think of doing
I am very sorry to see you go , I sincerely hope you find an honorable solution to your problems and I wish you the best for the future, Cheers, Richard
Always get a survey before buying any boat! Even a fiberglass boat wears out, and at 50 years old with a life of hard use I would expect the issues you found plus more. I have seen several owner finished Wet snails that were poorly finished once you dug deep into them.
I just watched your video again and picked up on something that I missed......You are a diesel mechanic? They are making top dollar on large construction sites in the US. Become your own contractor fixing/maintaining diesel compressors, generators, etc. on construction site and you will make all of your money back in NO Time! Please look into this, really.....your skills are GOLD. GodSpeed.
I was going to buy a boat last month. The owner decided to raise the price when he saw I was very much interested. This made me angry and I didn't go further. A friend was interested in the boat too and made some survey on it, he found many big issues I didn't find initially. He said to forgot about it because it is a trash boat. Thanks God, I was lucky and this opened my eyes to take double care when buying a boat. Hope you get better and keep following your dreams.
It's likely that Colin and Brenda had no idea as to the condition of the westsail...Given they inherited it...That being said, you bought the boat coast guard documented expecting title. They cannot supply title so there for they cannot complete the contract regardless of you paying them. So, Given they are nicr people, write to them via your lawyer, stating that as they cannot complete the contract, you now withdraw the offer to purchase, and require the money to be returned. If they cannot, or will not accept the contract is unable to be completed, you will proceed and take out a charge on the title of the deceased's property in lue of title, to secure your interest in the funds. When title comes through, you remove that charge on the property. If the property sells, you must be paid out from the proceeds of the sale... You are a nice person too so between you three I am sure you can come to a satisfactory outcome where you do not loose...
Amy, your problems are not terribly unusual though I understand it's difficult. The only real issue is Title - if you can not easily get that in your name you really have no option but toninform the seller they must refund your money and come collect the boat. If they can't do that, you could offer to get the boat to a safe place or even back to where you accepted her for a transit fee but you need your refund first.
Life can do that to ya. Don’t forget you have choices and are making them. A boat is a boat not an entity that has the power to take anything from you. I went through basically the exact same shit cept lost waay more time and money. Dropped the Westsail 32 purchases a ‘68 pearson 22’ which is basic and easy in every respect…sailed my a$$ off for a few seasons and waited till the right pocket cruiser came around. My Fuji 32 is far from maintenance free but she sails like a dream, has a reliable motor, and is large enough to live in if I choose. If you love the water, you love the water. Kayak, Surf, sail on other people’s boats but don’t let a plastic vessel control or manipulate you. Good luck. 💪🏽
Ive been following Eric and this boat for 10+ years. Eric has some outstanding videos. The engine came out of Ohio I believe and was rebuilt. Its not new. This boat was known to have issues. You accepted it as it was. The ownership transfer is an issue. But I suspect that will be solved before the boats ready for anything. I was considering pursuing this boat. I have a well used 1974, 33 footer. But the timing was wrong. Fiona was for sale for over a year. The surveyor can only estimate what it will cost to have it redone by contractors. You can repair that boat for a lot less than what he stated, but it will be your labor. You will probably need to spend 3 months at the boat. And you need a lot of tools and supplies. Boat materials arent cheap. But its very doable. Not sure why you started tearing the fuel tanks out. They can be cleaned in place. You never just start ripping out wiring like that. Its clear that you dont have a lot of experience with boat work. Unless you are willing to do a lot of work and spend 10k plus on materials, you're way over your head and you messed up. Sell the boat. His Son and Daughter will get the ownership papers corrected. Id probably wait to sell it until after the probate issue is resolved. $350/month is an ok price if you can work on it there. If you cant afford $350/month, why would you buy any boat like that? I was surprised that it was sold and that it was heading south without a bunch of work first. That boat had some other issues that Eric discussed in the videos.
Sad to see you go Amy, I really enjoyed your videos. I know it’s probably too late now but I know from my own past experiences that every sailor hits a low point. Like world ending. If this is truly your passion, don’t give up. Things always fall into place even when it seems like there’s no way forward. Whatever you chose, your videos made a difference and I enjoyed seeing them. All the best!
That is true. Don't give up on your dreams. Get the family to make you whole. They have your money and should give it all back to you. Those engines don't look brand new with that rust.
Amy I hurt for you. 17:01 I have Westsail 32 that needs work. Can you recommend the boatyard in Belhaven? TJ? Or Belahaven? I need a place that allow me live aboard while doing the work. Thx Henry
Screw all the naysayers, you got caught in an unfortunate and complicated situation. I just found your channel on this final episode, so I am sorry for that. Obviously you are skilled and smart and determined so I hope whatever your next chapter is brings joy and satisfaction. Maybe, just maybe, the sea calls you back at some point, if it does i’l be here to watch. In the meantime i’l view your previous videos and than you kindly for sharing.
Allow me to recap so you don't have to watch. She bought a 50 year old extremely high mile boat from the family of the deceased owner. The family had no way to know the condition of the boat. She didn't bother to spend a few bucks on a survey, and was then surprised to find her 50 year old extremely high mile boat is completely worn out. Now discouraged to find the boat is crumbling in on itself, she's wanting to ditch the boat. But it turns out she didn't do any due diligence on the status of the paperwork, so she can't even unload it on some other poor soul. So now she wants to sue the estate of the previous owner even though she admits they did nothing wrong. They even offered her $9k to take the wreck off her hands so she won't incur further yard fees. The whole series of poor choices on her part has made her put her other boat for sale and she's going to now only make land based bad decisions. The end.
@meddlehedd1194 She's looking for a lawyer to take her case because she can't afford to be out that money. What do you imagine she needs a lawyer for if not to sue for a full refund? The next big surprise for her will be that lawyers are way more expensive than a marine surveyor, and that any good lawyer will tell her to walk away.
@ufodude1000 I wouldn't have expected them to still have the money. They probably still had a 2 year yard storage bill to pay or some similar expenses.
@@MrMinkaPinka What a ridiculous thing to say. A lot of bad decisions were made. I doubt this video was posted for sympathy. It should be a lesson that everyone can learn from.
I will take a guess at one reason...because she fell in love with the romantic idea of owning the same boat that "sailing legend" Eric Forsyth owned and sailed the world with, and nothing was going to come in the way of realizing that dream. ...Just one guess.
Been there and done that. I'm one of those idiots that did not know when to stop. I paid for a costly pre-purchase survey, but it really did not tell the whole story. My boat cost me a lot of money and time, and it also cost me my dream of sailing the oceans. I still love sailing though, coastal waters only, and I must admit that as costly as it was it was also quite interesting. All the people I met, both con artists and amazing professionals, are now part of my life experience. All my best to you for the future and hope that you soon find energy to find your path for the future.
I saw your video this morning via Chasing Latitudes TH-cam channel. An experience such as yours, kills my desire to buy a boat and cruise. I wish you well and success in your future endeavors.
19:38 "great bones"... really? If the boat basically needs to be gutted, including some if not many of the stringers, can you really say the boat has great bones?
The price itself was a red flag for a boat that size. These people are not your friends. You looked over the boat, but clearly not well enough. You could have got a survey, but didn’t. The tanks should have been checked for contamination before trying to start the engine. You should have checked the boat thoroughly and completed all necessary repairs before leaving port. You should have had the title before setting sail. So many mistakes were made here. This video serves as a lesson to anyone considering this life. Just like flying, sailing safety needs to be taken seriously. Your life depends on it. I wish you well in whatever you choose to do from here.
Hello Amy. Sadly, I've only now found your channel, and can only hope that you're still able to have some fun times to offset this tale of misery. I'm planning on buying my first sailboat next year (30ish foot), and sailing it locally for the next few years while my parents are still around, then maybe getting something bigger and going south. You've given me a lot to think about, and I thank you for it. Its not easy to show the world one's failures and expose oneself to scrutiny from those who would delight in pointing out just where one went wrong, and how they would have done so much better. God, there's even a few long comments from one busybody, basically questioning all your life choices. I hope you're able to rekindle your love of sailing, and I've subscribed in the hopes of getting an update at some point. You seem like a great person, just the sort one would want for a friend. Take care, and keep your chin up :)
Hi Amy, i sailed on Fiona 12 years ago with Eric from PR to Bermuda. She was a strong and hearty boat and Eric was a skilled and fearless captain. I didn't know he passed until viewing your video. Its also sad to learn that Fiona is in such bad shape and may never sail again. I do remember a posting by Eric a few years afte I sailed on her that Fiona had sunk in the slip just a few hours after being put in the water for the summer sailing season. I am sure the salt water took a toll on the subsurface wood, wires and metal. Hope you find peace from your decision.
I looked up to Eric until I met him and his boat in Nome Alaska. Never meet your heroes. The boat was a wreck and his entire crew fled him because of the dismal conditions onboard. Eric has been shoestringing that boat for close to as long as you have been alive. It has nothing left to give.
Amy I'm so so sorry for you. I will be missing you, your voice and your inside power😅. Take care ❤ I can't give any advice but you have friends, family it'll be okay ❤
Sorry you've had so much trouble with Fiona and wish you well. I bought a Baba 35 sight unseen on Ebay. Took me five years and around 35k to set it right. Have been coastal sailing for three years and still fixing a few inherited issues; no refrigeration, dodger shot, a sail needs to be replaced, but this boat is still my joy. The difference is; hobby vs trying to make an income from sailing. The right person can get Fiona safely back on the water, but no money will likely be made in the endeavor.
You don't throw money at a boat in this condition. Remove what you can sell, and cut up & throw out. Don't let some other person go through this nonsense again
Amy this is the first time I've watched your channel. It's understandable that you feel the way you do. No matter what you do I hope you find what makes you truly happy and fulfilled.
Amy im so sorry for your situation. I admire your strength and hope you can get through this chapter knowing that you gave it an honest shot and had to make a difficult but logical decision. Wishing you only good things in your future with a heartfelt hug.
Amy, so sorry to hear about the situation you are in. If you haven’t found a job as of yet, I may have the perfect job for you. My brother and I own several farm and construction equipment businesses. We are always looking for a knowledgeable and hard working person. We have locations throughout the Midwest. (MN, IA, WI, IN, KS and MO) Also, do not give up on your love of the water and sailing. You went from a land frog to an amazing sailor. You are now part of the water, and it is part of you. Good luck.
Well Amy, a truly heart breaking run of bad luck. I really enjoyed your sailing videos but understand your decision. I hope it all works out for you. Take care and all the best.
Hi Amy Very sad to read of your circumstances ,i've never been a position to own a ocean going boat but have helped others sail theirs . It sounds to me you would be a welcome asset on any boat , you get to live the dream and somebody else picks up the tab. There is always owners needing crew for ocean crossings . when things settle down , give it a try . in the mean time stay strong or as we say in this part of the world Kia kaha
Sorry to hear that story! A couple decades ago, I was in a similar situation with a power boat. Eventually I got back into it with a little, reliable Boston Whaler and it was very therapeutic. Got me back to my love of the water and over the trauma of a bad purchase. I’ve since retired from boating altogether. Hopefully you’ll get back into it one day and we hope you find another reason to post on TH-cam. Enjoyed your channel and thanks for all you’ve given us. Cheers.
I once got into a similar mess with a boat when there was seemingly no way out, so I know what you're feeling. The issues with Fiona are solvable, and you clearly have the skills. Sort out the paperwork with the help of your lawyer, then get to work. You will surprise yourself.
Forgive me for thinking that there's something paradoxical about being able to make such a poor choice of boat, and still believing that you're making the right choice for yourself. Emotions are rarely a good advisor.
You surely stepped in it this is what happens when your not experienced in boat structural design that's the first place you should've looked down in the hull or hired a structural boat engineer this would have saved you so much grief and money . Diesel technicians are in high demand and good ones can make a good living I see the pain in your face its truly saddening I'm sure you have prayed more than one can count don't stop things will work out for you I'm sure of it .
Amy- I’m sorry. I am a yacht maintenance/restoration guy in San Diego. I have seen where a buyer paid a marine surveyor to health check the boat purchase, and the woman wound up in a money pit far exceeding your experience. So don’t blame yourself. And yes, you MUST go after the owners- not sure the laws in Maine was it? But possibly be compensated for a portion of not all. After all the headaches and nightmare and costs associated with the entire journey. One somewhat outlandish but dead serious suggestion. Ever think about reaching out to one of the Gold Rush television show crews for diesel mechanic job? You have what it takes, an interesting person, female AND a diesel mechanic, camera friendly, I think you’d do great. Keep your head up. All the best. J❤
Amy, your story is heart rending. Your honesty and candor extraordinary. I have no doubt you are going to come out of this stronger. Don't sink into depression. Action is the only antidote and some good sleep. And. It sounds like legally you should be made whole. All the best.
one of the best ways to build a u tube channel is documenting fixing the boat . even if the boat was ship shape , working on the boat was in your future .
Amy, I’m so sorry for you. That is a terrible thing that has happened to you. I want you to know that I have enjoyed watching your videos and I have always rooted for you keep your head up and you never know you may find a way. I will pray for you and maybe something will happen. Don’t give up.
What a story!! Amy, life is like that sometimes and when you are in it, it can seem oberwhelming. But 25 k is NOT the end of the world. Make a Go-Fund-Me or take another job for a while. Life has ways if testing us sometimes, and this is the time for you. 25k is not worth a depression. Let go for a while. Do something else. Thing will change for you.
Perhaps the boat is strong enough for tow to private land. Tax on sand is cheap if boatwork, especially Sail, is in progress in seasonal occupancy where I live in Cedar Key. True, Hurricane is a change, but hey, it’s only wind and water better than road life. I can help if you boss me technically. My 54 ft, Caledonia has taros stem to stern. Laurel Oak keel rotted, but white oak keel ok. I can help with your boat as Belhaven might cut stowage for Social Security recipient, which I am ( retirement ). No hard storage on my Cedar Key property; have 5 small boats I maintain.
Live in the marina on maritopia and be a diesel mechanic. A lot of people struggle with boat engines, if you have skills there you can stay in the warm and support yourself. It was fun watching you, you were inspiring to me. I wish the best for you.
Ok. This is the best that can be done... Here is what I would do. 1. Accept the $9000 and written proof that they assume ownership again. Take a promisaory note with 5% interest from them as payment. 2. Tell the yard In Writing that the estate is the owner, give them their contact information. 3. Pay the yard bill in full before you leave. 4. Put the motor and any usable parts back inside the Westsail. 5. Take all your stuff and your other boat and leave the state. 6. Formally Cancel your change of ownership documentation request with the Coast Guard. Just pay a service to do it for you. 7. Count yourself very lucky that no one is suing YOU... and that you have proof that you are NOT the legal owner ! 8. The yard is going to end up owning the boat...and they are going to want to come after someone, or sell it for a song... so cover your ass (AS OUTLINED). 9. Forget about the $6,000 you spent. You were never getting that back. No boat owner ever does. 10. So Now your loss is only $9k, but your liability is zero ( that is worth $100K) So, you have avoided all the expenses of owning a dead duck, and you have your free life back...and your other boat. It's Sad, but there you are. You have skills, strength, and are not tied to a lost cause. Don't Worry Be Happy. The good news is no person tried to do you wrong, they will forgive you your mistakes, and you learned this valuable lesson: "Inanimate Objects Are Not Your Friend." - they owe you exactly as much as any stranger you met on the dock.
The yard will be covered by the contract she signed when the boat was hauled out, that she personally signed for and accepts responsibility for, most yard would want liability insurance in case the boat causes a fire that damages other boats. Good plan for her but the yard can come after her. I cannot figure our how she missed the internal wood rot assuming she used a moisture meter when inspecting the boat.
@@UUBrahman I kind of got the impression that she did a slap-dash inspection, maybe had a friend along who 'knows boats'. I didn't read much about the seller's representations other than who the boat belonged to and its sailing history. She seemed to rely a lot on her diesel experience to bolster her decisions. The electrical should have been detectable. I find it hard to believe that the general condition of the boat was such that it would lead her to assume what she could not see was just as well maintained.
@@captlarry-3525 How about the fact that people who sold that yacht were not legal owners of that boat which means that they sold something which didnt belong to them. Is thats doesnt mean that sale of that boat is not valid? Or I missing something? Really confused
She, was in possession of the boat but did not legally own the boat. It’s like buying a car and having the dealership hold a note. All of this is best reviewed by a competent lawyer familiar with marine transactions. It’s money well spent. The sooner she gets the marina in on her issues the better, and they may know how to handle it for her. Lot’s of boats are abandoned in marinas. The boat was sold, I’m sure, as is. But, some things were misrepresented, and the ownership issue is a mess. She could never get a loan to fix it, since she doesn’t have clear title. Sad, but the goal now is to make good decisions going forward. She could certainly do deliveries, and stay on the water and not need a car.
@@prant8998 If one buys a car from the dealer with dealer financing, the buyer takes title and the title has a record of the lien on the title. The buyer still owns the car, just subject to the lien. Right?
I just came across this channel and really enjoy your content. It’s heartbreaking to hear this story. It would be a shame to let money wipe away your dreams.
So sorry about all of this. Really enjoyed following you on your adventures. Happy we met you as you were get Maritopia restored. Hope we can follow you along in whatever you end up doing in the future.
Hello Amy, I just stumbled upon your channel today. I watched several videos about the Bahamas and enjoyed them a lot. Then I watched this and my heart goes out to you. I won’t attempt to advise you what to do other than to focus on what you can control, seek competent legal counsel and take care of your health. I thought you might enjoy hearing from a viewer who appreciates your work. Dave
Completely understand that frustration. I don’t regret moving back to land myself. It’s just too hard a life for too long. It will be nice to not have so many problems piling up for awhile. Now my attitude is, ‘ small boat, small problems’. I would do overnight or a few days. Then go home. I do admire you and others though for the hardcore sailing.⛵️
A couple of questions. 1) Di you not get a USCG abstract of title before buying the boat? 2) Did you buy this boat sight unseen and without a survey? It sure sounds like that is the case.
You made life needlessly hard for yourself. Brand new engines left standing essentially unrun will have the gaskets go dry. My work found that out with a consignment of Cummins X15 destined to repower some Western Star trucks. Older engines with leaks can look good initially if left sitting for a while and then leak once the crud has warmed up for X number of hours running. Fuel tanks? You seriously thought not cleaning out tanks that had been sitting for 2 years? Really? Batteries left idle for 2 years and Eric would have been running lead acid. They should have gone straight to the recyclers! After several instances of engine failure and being towed and suspecting fuel tank contamination, you didn't have the fuel system cleaned and flushed, polished etc? Instead you chucked $700 of fuel into a suspect system? Girlie, you need to sharpen up quick sharp before your luck runs out and end up killing yourself and any crew!
Good plan. You are better off waiting, saving and getting a newer boat. Maybe get a little 30' for fun and to keep the skills up on. 30' are more carefree and things manageable.
Thank you so much for your honest story! There is no shortage of youtube videos of sailboats and bikinis. You've got my respect and my best wishes. Those don't buy much, but maybe they count for something. Hindsight is 20-20; don't listen to folks that blame the unfortunate.
To hear the words "I have completely lost my love of being on the water" may be the most heart-breaking thing that I have ever heard. I know you're having a hell of a time, but the water called to you for a reason. You love her. Don't lose her because of this. Even if you have to go to a micro-boat and do some weekend boat-camping along the shore. do it. Recently A dear friend of mine lost her boat and has no way of getting bakc on the water and it's breaking me into pieces to watch her tragedy. Don't let it happen to you.
May not offer much comfort at the moment, but you have already made more memories than most do in a lifetime and you aren’t even getting started yet. I would guess that there are quite a number of folks that want to tag along thru the videos. Safe travels and,Cheers.
You should offer the sellers to undo the whole deal. If they don't agree then find a lawyer that makes it happen. They sold you a boat that was not theirs of the moment of sale.
I’m a wanna be sailer, don’t know much about sailboats, …but I have only one question, what in the heck were you thinking about. Taking a boat out on the ocean without doing maintenance prior to leaving. Well good luck, ….🤠
Damn. I feel for you. I'm looking to buy my first boat and this is 100% of what I fear. I'll be getting a survey for sure! Good luck on your future endeavors.
I am 68 and have learned that when hiring an "expert" hire two more to audit the audit. The cost upfront often justifies the cost on the back end if you are led astray. Of course, depending on the costs. When it comes to a major purchase definitely. I am speaking specifically of lawyers. A faulty analysis or inaccurate assessment can bury you in expenses you may find you are unable/unwilling to meet later. Never look at any problem in the best case light, things will almost always go wrong. This woman's knowledge of the current problems is very likely incomplete.
Four years ago I put out a bid for a small cabin sailing boat in a bad state on the dry because I had a cheap option to put it up and do it up I thought. But luckily the owner was too greedy and wanted more than I was willing to pay for the boat. A few months later he anchored the boat just in the bay near our house because he could not pay the dry storage fees any more, then covid struck and the boat was left to rot until it sunk during a storm 18 month ago. So now every day I go to the beach, I watch the remains of "my boat" sink deeper into the sand just because the owner could not cut his losses and sell for a reasonable price. So whatever you think bad about yourself, at least you knew when to end the adventure. I might not have been so lucky and would have bought a nightmare of a boat just because it seemed cheap and then spend a fortune on it..
Greetings from your home state of KS. Life is just a chain of mistakes - for ALL of us. You gotta love your mistakes like you planned em perfectly because they are LIFE. The bigger the better. CONGRATS!
Thank you for sharing your story. Hope all your endeavors go well. When it comes to living on the water and sailing. There is a universal procedure that has to get followed to enjoy this life style. First you have to enjoy finding and solving problems with great enthusiasm and positivity. Solving problems is life and death out there any one who sailed will tell you it’s a chess game with every decision you make you have to be 5 moves ahead. There are unforeseen situations and ones that you have complete control over. Which you had complete control of buying the vessel. When it comes to the vessel you have to get a survey done. Even an inexperienced surveyor Would have told you to run. Or get ready to spend 100k on the low side. Don’t beat your self up on leaving on living on the water. It’s definitely not for everyone and I mean that in the most sincere way. The vessel the transition to sailing Fulltime is the easy part. The unexpected situations you encounter in the open ocean and in shady places around the world are much greater than the ones you faced already. I say this with love and compassion. Stay salty everyone.
What baloney! In all my years of sailing, the number of long range voyages made on homemade, barebones vessels by bay and coastal sailors who did their homework, took their time and lived to tell about it taught me that blue water sailing is doable by a wide range of sailors with varied means and experience. Weather, as an example doesn't happen like someone rear ending you at a stop light and with today's communications forecasts give wide margins of time to prepare. The biggest problem is sailors who don't take the extreme situations seriously and equip, educate and train themselves on how to respond.
Stay on Maritopia as your home. Those mid-Atlantic states are pretty cheap living, really, esp S. Carolina. You had a good thing going with Maritopia and are one of the few TH-camrs who really went about the boat and plan (Maritopia) in a level-headed way. You’ve made Maritopia a nice home. Take your time and find a shoreside job while you build some savings back up. Your diesel mechanic skills would keep you well-employed in almost any waterfront community. Rushed decisions are generally BAD decisions
Thank you so much for what you have shared. I'll miss seeing your updates, but sometimes you just have to move on! Best of luck with whatever you do next. :)
I really feel for you. Having built one boat and restored/refitted another, I know it's no child's play. But this is such a legendary boat, there is a book and several videos about it, what a shame. I hope you reconsider, I have seen people doing much more work to restore a classic, you could set up a series and document your rebuild on YT, I'm sure there are many DYIs out there that would be interested. Just think how many years it will take for you to get back on your feet. Rethink, postpone your dreams, and in the end you'll have a great boat and business to show for the years of labor. Just a thought. Good luck with your decision and Godspeed on your new journey.
I just found your channel through this video, and subscribed. Listen, dont let this bad purchase end your dream and passion, you were screwed on this deal and i'm 100% sure the seller knew it was garbage and still tried to make profit off your inexperience, I dont know why this was not detected when you did the boat survey. Give up on this boat, but dont give up on your dream, save up and buy something newer like not more than 20 years old and use this experience to find a reputable boat surveyor, and you personally need to inspect every inch of your new boat before you make any offer or close the deal. 38-44 feet is a good choice for long term liveaboard and ocean crossing, and still small enough to single hand with the right rigging. If the new boat is not sail ready and needs repairs, dont buy, this is a sign she was not taken care of properly, always remember the time and money spent on repairs even if done yourself will always cost more money they buying a boat ready to sail and you will have lost massive time in the process. Whatever amount you save for your new boat, only spend 80% of that on the boat purchase, save the remaining 20% for any unexpected repairs or upgrades you require. Dont plan any ocean crossings till after you've owned and lived aboard at least 1-3 years and had many day-weekend sea trials within 30 miles of your local marina. You can do this, you have great potential, and with the right boat she will be your home for many years. We have a 1978 Newport 30 we bought 1 month before covid Feb 2020, she is equipped to liveaboard but we live on land and spent many many weekends in the marina and within 20 miles offshore over the past 5.5 years. We bought her to learn and practice primarily, but with paying rent on land and paying rising marina fees and insurance fees, we are unable to save for our dream boat. We plan to spend this fall preparing the boat for sale around late Nov 2024 or Jan 2025, then put the money into a savings account along with the monthly amount we would have been paying for marina, insurance, and maintenance, then hopefully in 5-8 years we can afford our goal to purchase a 2000's Beneteau Oceanis 44-52 foot. We wish you all the best in life, follow your passion and heart, dont let anything discourage you, shit happens stay determined pick yourself up and stand strong!
I think you should get a Catalina 27, move in, and start giving sailing classes. Make a projection for 3 years to prepare the boat for solo cruising and make it happen. I spent 7 years in a 22ft. Learned all I could about sailing and repairs by working in boats for a yacht broker and a sailing school. Bought a Pearson 323 relying on my yacht broker, certified Surveyor and my own experience in do diligence in several yachts prior to my purchase. I understand your suffering, but you made the mistake of buying a boat without deep inspection. You should get your money back and not give up. You can do it!
Retired Kansan Sailor here. Very sorry to hear your bad luck story. It sucks and I feel your pain; It's apparent you've beaten yourself up over some recent decisions. Just move forward; time will take care of things. Older boats are a nightmare as you now know and I've heard very, very few good stories about older boats. They ALL require lots and lots of work, money and time. Enough of that. Just more forward; you are smart enough and skilled enough to get it together and find your way in this adventure we call life. I'm 67 y.o. now and I still have dreams and aspirations. Do not lose that part of life; do not crawl into a bottle. Take it from a former Navy drunk; it normally does not help. Use your head and your skills to find another dream, another vision and another plan. Figure out some goals and chase a new dream, follow your dream. It's all a journey and you can do it ! Take care Amy.....
You will probably save a lot of people a whole lotta money. It's one thing to hear someone got burned buying a sailboat (happens every day); it's a whole different ballgame to see so many specifics/pictures/video clips. Wish you all the best on the next one.
Out of the hundreds of comments, you’re the very first person to hit it on the head. That’s exactly why I ended up getting the camera out while I was in that mental state, so that everyone could see the emotions and toll it was taking on me. I sure hope it helps others in their future quest. Thank you very much! Live & learn. Life goes on.
Amy I would love to talk sometime and tell you MY Story of 2 boats , over 4 years , and 50k deep and and an even more infuriating outcome. I promise you'd laugh without it being funny and would surely make you feel better. So if you wanna drop me an Email , it would be fun. I know and feel your pain so well , and yea , I am building my Nomad Van RV with the few salvaged lithiums/solar and other electronics I still have. You would look cool in a schoolbus or other home built mobile adventure wagon. Take Care Amy. Chris.
For what its worth, Amy, I enjoyed your channel (as a similar-age female who wishes she had the means and knowledge to attempt what you did). I'm sorry to see you go. I suspect your life would be interesting whether or not you were sailing. Have you considered that? Anyone can sail a boat and try to make a youtube channel, but its the person sailing the boat that makes the channel interesting.
So sorry for your situation and obvious distress. Just my opinion but i'd never set off-shore with frayed stays or shrouds, thats just a situation waiting to happen! With a janky diesel, bad battery and uncleaned tanks, it just turned into a USCG mayday. A reliable diesel is an ace card when things get bad on a sailboat.
I know the Westsail 42 well and would be glad to own one. And I've followed the travels of Eric in recent years. But honestly, it was clear to see from his many videos, that this boat was "ridden hard and put away wet". I could have told you five years ago to not buy this boat. BUT, for the cheap price you paid, and all the work it needs, it's still a bargain for someone and you should be able to find a buyer on the open market for what you have in it. If I were a few decades younger, I'd buy it in a heartbeat .
An experienced sailor friend told me - "the second best day of your life is when you buy the boat of your dreams. The best is when you sell it". Very sorry to hear of your troubles and wish you the best for the future.
Hi Amy, so sorry to hear your experience having purchased SV Fiona.
That vessel has a massive historical value indeed Captain Eric Forsyth received the Cruising Club of America gold medal in 2000 on one of his voyages aboard Fiona the highest World Wide award given to civilian sailors.
In my opinion SV Fiona must be preserved if not by your good-self but really by the family or a USA maritime museum.
I personally crewed on SV Fiona with Captain Eric across the Bay of Biscay in 2015 in a force 9 gale, we got absolutely smashed in mountainous seas but Fiona bought us to Portugal eventually. She truly is a remarkable vessel albeit now needing a full refit.
Perhaps you could try a go fund me project and document the refit on TH-cam?
Truly sorry you're dealing with this. I hope you can find some peace...soon. Thanks for sharing such a detailed accounting of the issues; all who watch are wiser for it.
I sure hope so. It’s a lesson to learn from, no doubt.
Thanks for your video , it’s an eye opener ! You are strong and bold and damaged emotionally right now ! You will make it back it’s in your DNA ! Stay strong and be true to yourself!
Please don't give up on your dream. I loved all your videos and would certainly support you through Patron. Take a deep breath, accept this as a life-lesson and get back on the water! Your fans miss you!
For years and years I enjoyed following Eric and his adventures on Fiona. After Eric’s passing I saw Fiona was for sale and couldn’t believe it was listed at $20 k. I also saw the pics showing the wind vane attached. I have not done my due diligence on a few sailboats in the past and what on one I thought I could have work done myself and back on the water in a few months became 3 years and was definitely not worth out from any angle.
I believe I would rather go into debt on a purchase price and be on the water sails up and being taught scary lessons by the ocean than roll the dice and with no survey. Costly experience, learn from it .
If the $9k is still being offered by Eric’s kids thank your lucky stars and take it with appreciation. Imho
Every boat purchase should begin with a certified marine survey. Then you'll know what you're getting into before money is laid on the table.
Never make decisions from fear. This alone will ruin your life. Make decisions from love, courage, from the heart. The mind gets frustrated but the heart knows the way. It’s a very quiet voice that is heard in silence
You are the captain of your own faith, no matter where you go from here. And I hope that when the dust settles, you'll regain your love for the ocean, and I hope this won't be the last we will see of you. Because though you have received a good beating now, you still appear to be solid and real. The world needs more people like you. So, if you choose to continue this channel like a boat restoration channel, I'll gladly tune in every time you release a video. If not. You are still the kind of person the world needs in it , and I'm sure you'll create a great future for yourself, and I wish you the best of luck. You deserve it. Best regards, Jarle
You definitely hit a hard stretch, Amy. I'm sorry for your situation, but you hold yourself together well, which is commendable. You are strong. You're going to be alright. This may not come out sounding sensitive, but it is true: count your blessings. If you only focus on being wet while it is raining, you don't bother to think that the sun will shine again. It will. You will be amazed at how good it feels when, even in catastrophe, you remember that all of life is a blessing. Take pride in knowing that you have handled this problem like a champ.
Thank you so much!
Colin and Brenda haven’t deliver clear title. They need to return the sale proceeds and cancel the sale or get sued.
Thanks! I am a bit suprised and disappointed at some of the mean comments on here. Com'on people. No need to kick someone when they're down. We all make mistakes unless we never do anything or learn anything. I appreciate her honesty and hard work.
❤️ Thabk you so very much! I truly appreciate it.
Some of the comments are vicious. Guess I should’ve expected it. Not sure they realize that I purposely made the video so that others are hopefully able to learn from my mistakes.
Anyone who never made a mistake never made anything else..
@@SebastianParagraph This is so true! Everything Amy said in this video is totally valid, and I applaud you for telling your story. Until buying an old sailboat and uncovering so many issues, I too would have never known how tough and mentally draining it can be. I am sad to hear that you deleted all your accounts and quit life on the water, but you should trust your gut. Much respect and love to you Amy!
@AmysSoloSailingAdventures we do this is boating and we do it in aviation. Some people are just miserable douchebags that will come in and state the obvious over and over again. Even after it was said six times by the people above them in the comments. Fuck em
@@calanpeet Surprised and disappointed at “mean” comments? We all make mistakes but running from the problem or giving up instead of fighting for what’s right is why most comments are so negative towards her!
How to turn a $20,000 sailboat into a $35,000 sailboat? Spend $100,000 on it.
Hahaha! Totally!
Live and learn. I just hope others are able to learn from my mistakes.
@AmysSoloSailingAdventures : for what it's worth, I'm old. I downsized to likely my last boat. It looked like hell, but it was structurally sound. I spent about double the purchase price on a used engine and brand new quality sails. ( I've found sailboats sail poorly with bad sails). There isn't much interior, but all the wood has been replaced and new cushions. Our winters are long, I just worked when I could, and now there is a minor amount of yearly maintenance. It's a much better boat than when I bought it, but probably worth the same.
With your mechanical experience and your type of determination I can't imagine you not reaching your goals . I think you should take a step back and let the universe realign itself , we all need you !
I know that heartache all to well unfortunately. 20 years ago me and my 42’ vintage Wooden Egg Harbor cabin cruiser. I spent 77k completing the restoration and new diesel Yanmar engines. I did all the work and it took thousands of man hours. I worked tirelessly for a decade finishing it. I foolishly decided to take her out by myself. I couldn’t wait so I took off for a ride to the Vineyard. 20 minutes into the ride the boat listed to port. To make a long story shorter, a sunken below the waterline telephone pole was floating. It came into the boat up front and traveled all the way to the engine room. My dream was cooked!! My insurance survey hadn’t been completed so I got NOTHING from insurance. So YES I know how bad it sucks.
You made a good decision to take a break at the very least.
Good luck on your journey
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Sorry brother, you've got me beat - but I took a similar beating. Can't get that time/$$$ back...
Sometimes junk is junk - even if it's nostalgic junk.
If the sellers were not (are not) able to convey free title for the vessel, that suggests that the sale was not completed and that you should get a full refund.
Crushing. Take a deep breath and a reset vacation. The sea will never leave your soul. If you need a place to reset, Vida Libre is by herself. Take care.
Since the boat is tied up in probate they legally could not sell the boat. They can't complete the transaction so you deserve every penny back and you should get your money back.
Idk. It's a shitty situation, but "buyer beware." This is why there are surveyors. She seems like she should have been able to see all this herself. Did she just peak inside and pay?
Since she took the boat all apart she can't get he money back because it's not in same condition as she bought it but I wouldn't buy anything without a title or a survey it's like giving someone money and you don't get a title it might not even be the person selling the item being their's to sell But good luck no matter what you think of doing
I am very sorry to see you go , I sincerely hope you find an honorable solution to your problems and I wish you the best for the future, Cheers, Richard
Always get a survey before buying any boat! Even a fiberglass boat wears out, and at 50 years old with a life of hard use I would expect the issues you found plus more. I have seen several owner finished Wet snails that were poorly finished once you dug deep into them.
What a peach.
Conclusion, have your boat inspected before buying it.
You didn’t check the fuel tanks after 2 years on the hard and put 700 bucks in there without checking!
So many things you did wrong.
@@stackingsmiles1372 Stating the obvious now translates to “mean” comments! Can you believe how far we’ve fallen as a society to believe this drivel?
This is one of the saddest stories I have ever heard of a sailboat. I am so sorry you are dealing with this.
I just watched your video again and picked up on something that I missed......You are a diesel mechanic? They are making top dollar on large construction sites in the US. Become your own contractor fixing/maintaining diesel compressors, generators, etc. on construction site and you will make all of your money back in NO Time! Please look into this, really.....your skills are GOLD. GodSpeed.
You bought it without a survey?
I was going to buy a boat last month. The owner decided to raise the price when he saw I was very much interested. This made me angry and I didn't go further. A friend was interested in the boat too and made some survey on it, he found many big issues I didn't find initially. He said to forgot about it because it is a trash boat. Thanks God, I was lucky and this opened my eyes to take double care when buying a boat.
Hope you get better and keep following your dreams.
It's likely that Colin and Brenda had no idea as to the condition of the westsail...Given they inherited it...That being said, you bought the boat coast guard documented expecting title. They cannot supply title so there for they cannot complete the contract regardless of you paying them. So, Given they are nicr people, write to them via your lawyer, stating that as they cannot complete the contract, you now withdraw the offer to purchase, and require the money to be returned. If they cannot, or will not accept the contract is unable to be completed, you will proceed and take out a charge on the title of the deceased's property in lue of title, to secure your interest in the funds. When title comes through, you remove that charge on the property. If the property sells, you must be paid out from the proceeds of the sale... You are a nice person too so between you three I am sure you can come to a satisfactory outcome where you do not loose...
@@colinboniface194 after 10k of legal fees will still be stuck with the boat
Amy, your problems are not terribly unusual though I understand it's difficult. The only real issue is Title - if you can not easily get that in your name you really have no option but toninform the seller they must refund your money and come collect the boat. If they can't do that, you could offer to get the boat to a safe place or even back to where you accepted her for a transit fee but you need your refund first.
Nailed it
Good luck! You have the skills. Expensive lesson. I looked at 5 boats in a row and all of them had structural issues where I passed. You'll recover.
Life can do that to ya. Don’t forget you have choices and are making them. A boat is a boat not an entity that has the power to take anything from you.
I went through basically the exact same shit cept lost waay more time and money.
Dropped the Westsail 32 purchases a ‘68 pearson 22’ which is basic and easy in every respect…sailed my a$$ off for a few seasons and waited till the right pocket cruiser came around. My Fuji 32 is far from maintenance free but she sails like a dream, has a reliable motor, and is large enough to live in if I choose.
If you love the water, you love the water. Kayak, Surf, sail on other people’s boats but don’t let a plastic vessel control or manipulate you.
Good luck. 💪🏽
Ive been following Eric and this boat for 10+ years. Eric has some outstanding videos. The engine came out of Ohio I believe and was rebuilt. Its not new.
This boat was known to have issues. You accepted it as it was. The ownership transfer is an issue. But I suspect that will be solved before the boats ready for anything. I was considering pursuing this boat. I have a well used 1974, 33 footer. But the timing was wrong. Fiona was for sale for over a year. The surveyor can only estimate what it will cost to have it redone by contractors. You can repair that boat for a lot less than what he stated, but it will be your labor.
You will probably need to spend 3 months at the boat. And you need a lot of tools and supplies. Boat materials arent cheap. But its very doable. Not sure why you started tearing the fuel tanks out. They can be cleaned in place. You never just start ripping out wiring like that. Its clear that you dont have a lot of experience with boat work. Unless you are willing to do a lot of work and spend 10k plus on materials, you're way over your head and you messed up. Sell the boat. His Son and Daughter will get the ownership papers corrected. Id probably wait to sell it until after the probate issue is resolved. $350/month is an ok price if you can work on it there. If you cant afford $350/month, why would you buy any boat like that?
I was surprised that it was sold and that it was heading south without a bunch of work first. That boat had some other issues that Eric discussed in the videos.
Sad to see you go Amy, I really enjoyed your videos. I know it’s probably too late now but I know from my own past experiences that every sailor hits a low point. Like world ending. If this is truly your passion, don’t give up. Things always fall into place even when it seems like there’s no way forward. Whatever you chose, your videos made a difference and I enjoyed seeing them. All the best!
That is true. Don't give up on your dreams. Get the family to make you whole. They have your money and should give it all back to you. Those engines don't look brand new with that rust.
Amy I hurt for you.
17:01 I have Westsail 32 that needs work. Can you recommend the boatyard in Belhaven? TJ? Or Belahaven? I need a place that allow me live aboard while doing the work. Thx Henry
Screw all the naysayers, you got caught in an unfortunate and complicated situation. I just found your channel on this final episode, so I am sorry for that. Obviously you are skilled and smart and determined so I hope whatever your next chapter is brings joy and satisfaction. Maybe, just maybe, the sea calls you back at some point, if it does i’l be here to watch. In the meantime i’l view your previous videos and than you kindly for sharing.
Allow me to recap so you don't have to watch.
She bought a 50 year old extremely high mile boat from the family of the deceased owner. The family had no way to know the condition of the boat. She didn't bother to spend a few bucks on a survey, and was then surprised to find her 50 year old extremely high mile boat is completely worn out. Now discouraged to find the boat is crumbling in on itself, she's wanting to ditch the boat. But it turns out she didn't do any due diligence on the status of the paperwork, so she can't even unload it on some other poor soul. So now she wants to sue the estate of the previous owner even though she admits they did nothing wrong. They even offered her $9k to take the wreck off her hands so she won't incur further yard fees. The whole series of poor choices on her part has made her put her other boat for sale and she's going to now only make land based bad decisions. The end.
I heard no mention of a law suit. Don't know were you're getting that from
@meddlehedd1194 She's looking for a lawyer to take her case because she can't afford to be out that money. What do you imagine she needs a lawyer for if not to sue for a full refund?
The next big surprise for her will be that lawyers are way more expensive than a marine surveyor, and that any good lawyer will tell her to walk away.
they said they no longer have the money and she needs to wait it was a scam
@ufodude1000 I wouldn't have expected them to still have the money. They probably still had a 2 year yard storage bill to pay or some similar expenses.
@@MrMinkaPinka What a ridiculous thing to say. A lot of bad decisions were made. I doubt this video was posted for sympathy. It should be a lesson that everyone can learn from.
Why didn’t you have a survey before buying a used/old boat?!!
I didn’t intend to be rude with my comment and not show compassion. It’s a crappy situation and I feel her pain.
I will take a guess at one reason...because she fell in love with the romantic idea of owning the same boat that "sailing legend" Eric Forsyth owned and sailed the world with, and nothing was going to come in the way of realizing that dream. ...Just one guess.
@@OptionsRealty it’s a very painful and expensive lesson.
Been there and done that. I'm one of those idiots that did not know when to stop. I paid for a costly pre-purchase survey, but it really did not tell the whole story. My boat cost me a lot of money and time, and it also cost me my dream of sailing the oceans. I still love sailing though, coastal waters only, and I must admit that as costly as it was it was also quite interesting. All the people I met, both con artists and amazing professionals, are now part of my life experience. All my best to you for the future and hope that you soon find energy to find your path for the future.
I saw your video this morning via Chasing Latitudes TH-cam channel.
An experience such as yours, kills my desire to buy a boat and cruise.
I wish you well and success in your future endeavors.
19:38 "great bones"... really? If the boat basically needs to be gutted, including some if not many of the stringers, can you really say the boat has great bones?
The price itself was a red flag for a boat that size. These people are not your friends. You looked over the boat, but clearly not well enough. You could have got a survey, but didn’t. The tanks should have been checked for contamination before trying to start the engine. You should have checked the boat thoroughly and completed all necessary repairs before leaving port. You should have had the title before setting sail. So many mistakes were made here. This video serves as a lesson to anyone considering this life. Just like flying, sailing safety needs to be taken seriously. Your life depends on it.
I wish you well in whatever you choose to do from here.
Hello Amy. Sadly, I've only now found your channel, and can only hope that you're still able to have some fun times to offset this tale of misery. I'm planning on buying my first sailboat next year (30ish foot), and sailing it locally for the next few years while my parents are still around, then maybe getting something bigger and going south. You've given me a lot to think about, and I thank you for it. Its not easy to show the world one's failures and expose oneself to scrutiny from those who would delight in pointing out just where one went wrong, and how they would have done so much better. God, there's even a few long comments from one busybody, basically questioning all your life choices.
I hope you're able to rekindle your love of sailing, and I've subscribed in the hopes of getting an update at some point. You seem like a great person, just the sort one would want for a friend. Take care, and keep your chin up :)
That would be why they always say "get a survey done BEFORE you buy any boat!"
Hi Amy, i sailed on Fiona 12 years ago with Eric from PR to Bermuda. She was a strong and hearty boat and Eric was a skilled and fearless captain. I didn't know he passed until viewing your video. Its also sad to learn that Fiona is in such bad shape and may never sail again. I do remember a posting by Eric a few years afte I sailed on her that Fiona had sunk in the slip just a few hours after being put in the water for the summer sailing season. I am sure the salt water took a toll on the subsurface wood, wires and metal.
Hope you find peace from your decision.
Wow,good info….
I looked up to Eric until I met him and his boat in Nome Alaska. Never meet your heroes. The boat was a wreck and his entire crew fled him because of the dismal conditions onboard. Eric has been shoestringing that boat for close to as long as you have been alive. It has nothing left to give.
Yep I agree, I think that’s why Mads on Sail Life jumped ship claiming seasickness but was just being polite I think.
Oups!
Amy I'm so so sorry for you. I will be missing you, your voice and your inside power😅. Take care ❤ I can't give any advice but you have friends, family it'll be okay ❤
Sorry you've had so much trouble with Fiona and wish you well. I bought a Baba 35 sight unseen on Ebay. Took me five years and around 35k to set it right. Have been coastal sailing for three years and still fixing a few inherited issues; no refrigeration, dodger shot, a sail needs to be replaced, but this boat is still my joy. The difference is; hobby vs trying to make an income from sailing. The right person can get Fiona safely back on the water, but no money will likely be made in the endeavor.
You don't throw money at a boat in this condition. Remove what you can sell, and cut up & throw out. Don't let some other person go through this nonsense again
Amy this is the first time I've watched your channel. It's understandable that you feel the way you do. No matter what you do I hope you find what makes you truly happy and fulfilled.
That boat has an amazing history. 400k n.m. & 2x circumnavigating the globe ~ very impressive.
Amy im so sorry for your situation. I admire your strength and hope you can get through this chapter knowing that you gave it an honest shot and had to make a difficult but logical decision. Wishing you only good things in your future with a heartfelt hug.
Amy, so sorry to hear about the situation you are in. If you haven’t found a job as of yet, I may have the perfect job for you. My brother and I own several farm and construction equipment businesses. We are always looking for a knowledgeable and hard working person. We have locations throughout the Midwest. (MN, IA, WI, IN, KS and MO)
Also, do not give up on your love of the water and sailing. You went from a land frog to an amazing sailor. You are now part of the water, and it is part of you. Good luck.
Well Amy, a truly heart breaking run of bad luck. I really enjoyed your sailing videos but understand your decision. I hope it all works out for you. Take care and all the best.
Incompetence isn't bad luck.
Hi Amy
Very sad to read of your circumstances ,i've never been a position to own a ocean going boat but have helped others sail theirs . It sounds to me you would be a welcome asset on any boat , you get to live the dream and somebody else picks up the tab. There is always owners needing crew for ocean crossings . when things settle down , give it a try . in the mean time stay strong or as we say in this part of the world Kia kaha
Hang in there Amy, you have a Mechanical Trade that can take you far. Keep your boat and rethink a positive plan forward. Best of luck Go Girl!
You left without polishing the fuel and cleaning the tanks ,, huh can’t understand why engine quit
Sorry to hear that story! A couple decades ago, I was in a similar situation with a power boat. Eventually I got back into it with a little, reliable Boston Whaler and it was very therapeutic. Got me back to my love of the water and over the trauma of a bad purchase. I’ve since retired from boating altogether. Hopefully you’ll get back into it one day and we hope you find another reason to post on TH-cam. Enjoyed your channel and thanks for all you’ve given us. Cheers.
Boat has a running diesel and the wet snail is still strong.
Harden up your sails and don't give up the ship ⚓😎
I once got into a similar mess with a boat when there was seemingly no way out, so I know what you're feeling. The issues with Fiona are solvable, and you clearly have the skills. Sort out the paperwork with the help of your lawyer, then get to work. You will surprise yourself.
Forgive me for thinking that there's something paradoxical about being able to make such a poor choice of boat, and still believing that you're making the right choice for yourself. Emotions are rarely a good advisor.
This. So much this. Sucks.
You surely stepped in it this is what happens when your not experienced in boat structural design that's the first place you should've looked down in the hull or hired a structural boat engineer this would have saved you so much grief and money . Diesel technicians are in high demand and good ones can make a good living I see the pain in your face its truly saddening I'm sure you have prayed more than one can count don't stop things will work out for you I'm sure of it .
Amy- I’m sorry.
I am a yacht maintenance/restoration guy in San Diego. I have seen where a buyer paid a marine surveyor to health check the boat purchase, and the woman wound up in a money pit far exceeding your experience.
So don’t blame yourself.
And yes, you MUST go after the owners- not sure the laws in Maine was it? But possibly be compensated for a portion of not all. After all the headaches and nightmare and costs associated with the entire journey.
One somewhat outlandish but dead serious suggestion.
Ever think about reaching out to one of the Gold Rush television show crews for diesel mechanic job?
You have what it takes, an interesting person, female AND a diesel mechanic, camera friendly, I think you’d do great.
Keep your head up.
All the best.
J❤
A survey from at least one qualified individual before you purchase
Amy, your story is heart rending. Your honesty and candor extraordinary. I have no doubt you are going to come out of this stronger. Don't sink into depression. Action is the only antidote and some good sleep. And. It sounds like legally you should be made whole. All the best.
one of the best ways to build a u tube channel is documenting fixing the boat . even if the boat was ship shape , working on the boat was in your future .
Amy, I’m so sorry for you. That is a terrible thing that has happened to you. I want you to know that I have enjoyed watching your videos and I have always rooted for you keep your head up and you never know you may find a way. I will pray for you and maybe something will happen. Don’t give up.
Checking in. I expect you to pop back up as I'm sure the ocean is still calling you. You made it so far. ❤
Don't skip the survey step in ANY boat you buy.
Always do a survey.
What a story!! Amy, life is like that sometimes and when you are in it, it can seem oberwhelming. But 25 k is NOT the end of the world. Make a Go-Fund-Me or take another job for a while. Life has ways if testing us sometimes, and this is the time for you. 25k is not worth a depression. Let go for a while. Do something else. Thing will change for you.
Perhaps the boat is strong enough for tow to private land. Tax on sand is cheap if boatwork, especially Sail, is in progress in seasonal occupancy where I live in Cedar Key. True, Hurricane is a change, but hey, it’s only wind and water better than road life. I can help if you boss me technically. My 54 ft, Caledonia has taros stem to stern. Laurel Oak keel rotted, but white oak keel ok. I can help with your boat as Belhaven might cut stowage for Social Security recipient, which I am ( retirement ). No hard storage on my Cedar Key property; have 5 small boats I maintain.
Live in the marina on maritopia and be a diesel mechanic. A lot of people struggle with boat engines, if you have skills there you can stay in the warm and support yourself. It was fun watching you, you were inspiring to me. I wish the best for you.
Ok. This is the best that can be done... Here is what I would do. 1. Accept the $9000 and written proof that they assume ownership again. Take a promisaory note with 5% interest from them as payment. 2. Tell the yard In Writing that the estate is the owner, give them their contact information. 3. Pay the yard bill in full before you leave. 4. Put the motor and any usable parts back inside the Westsail. 5. Take all your stuff and your other boat and leave the state. 6. Formally Cancel your change of ownership documentation request with the Coast Guard. Just pay a service to do it for you. 7. Count yourself very lucky that no one is suing YOU... and that you have proof that you are NOT the legal owner ! 8. The yard is going to end up owning the boat...and they are going to want to come after someone, or sell it for a song... so cover your ass (AS OUTLINED). 9. Forget about the $6,000 you spent. You were never getting that back. No boat owner ever does. 10. So Now your loss is only $9k, but your liability is zero ( that is worth $100K) So, you have avoided all the expenses of owning a dead duck, and you have your free life back...and your other boat. It's Sad, but there you are. You have skills, strength, and are not tied to a lost cause. Don't Worry Be Happy. The good news is no person tried to do you wrong, they will forgive you your mistakes, and you learned this valuable lesson: "Inanimate Objects Are Not Your Friend." - they owe you exactly as much as any stranger you met on the dock.
The yard will be covered by the contract she signed when the boat was hauled out, that she personally signed for and accepts responsibility for, most yard would want liability insurance in case the boat causes a fire that damages other boats. Good plan for her but the yard can come after her. I cannot figure our how she missed the internal wood rot assuming she used a moisture meter when inspecting the boat.
@@UUBrahman I kind of got the impression that she did a slap-dash inspection, maybe had a friend along who 'knows boats'. I didn't read much about the seller's representations other than who the boat belonged to and its sailing history. She seemed to rely a lot on her diesel experience to bolster her decisions. The electrical should have been detectable. I find it hard to believe that the general condition of the boat was such that it would lead her to assume what she could not see was just as well maintained.
@@captlarry-3525 How about the fact that people who sold that yacht were not legal owners of that boat which means that they sold something which didnt belong to them. Is thats doesnt mean that sale of that boat is not valid? Or I missing something? Really confused
She, was in possession of the boat but did not legally own the boat. It’s like buying a car and having the dealership hold a note. All of this is best reviewed by a competent lawyer familiar with marine transactions. It’s money well spent. The sooner she gets the marina in on her issues the better, and they may know how to handle it for her. Lot’s of boats are abandoned in marinas. The boat was sold, I’m sure, as is. But, some things were misrepresented, and the ownership issue is a mess. She could never get a loan to fix it, since she doesn’t have clear title. Sad, but the goal now is to make good decisions going forward. She could certainly do deliveries, and stay on the water and not need a car.
@@prant8998 If one buys a car from the dealer with dealer financing, the buyer takes title and the title has a record of the lien on the title. The buyer still owns the car, just subject to the lien. Right?
Thanks!
Oh my goodness! You are too kind. From my heart, THANK YOU so very much! ❤️
I just came across this channel and really enjoy your content.
It’s heartbreaking to hear this story. It would be a shame to let money wipe away your dreams.
So sorry about all of this. Really enjoyed following you on your adventures. Happy we met you as you were get Maritopia restored. Hope we can follow you along in whatever you end up doing in the future.
Hello Amy,
I just stumbled upon your channel today. I watched several videos about the Bahamas and enjoyed them a lot. Then I watched this and my heart goes out to you. I won’t attempt to advise you what to do other than to focus on what you can control, seek competent legal counsel and take care of your health. I thought you might enjoy hearing from a viewer who appreciates your work.
Dave
Did you not have a proper survey done before you bought it? If so I'd be suing the surveyor.
Completely understand that frustration. I don’t regret moving back to land myself. It’s just too hard a life for too long. It will be nice to not have so many problems piling up for awhile. Now my attitude is, ‘ small boat, small problems’. I would do overnight or a few days. Then go home. I do admire you and others though for the hardcore sailing.⛵️
A couple of questions. 1) Di you not get a USCG abstract of title before buying the boat? 2) Did you buy this boat sight unseen and without a survey? It sure sounds like that is the case.
You made life needlessly hard for yourself. Brand new engines left standing essentially unrun will have the gaskets go dry. My work found that out with a consignment of Cummins X15 destined to repower some Western Star trucks. Older engines with leaks can look good initially if left sitting for a while and then leak once the crud has warmed up for X number of hours running. Fuel tanks? You seriously thought not cleaning out tanks that had been sitting for 2 years? Really? Batteries left idle for 2 years and Eric would have been running lead acid. They should have gone straight to the recyclers! After several instances of engine failure and being towed and suspecting fuel tank contamination, you didn't have the fuel system cleaned and flushed, polished etc? Instead you chucked $700 of fuel into a suspect system? Girlie, you need to sharpen up quick sharp before your luck runs out and end up killing yourself and any crew!
Oh my gosh, I'm lost for words, Amy I wish you the best! One foot in front of the other
Good plan. You are better off waiting, saving and getting a newer boat. Maybe get a little 30' for fun and to keep the skills up on. 30' are more carefree and things manageable.
My other boat that I’ve been living aboard & solo’ing around the Caribbean is a 36.
Thank you so much for your honest story! There is no shortage of youtube videos of sailboats and bikinis. You've got my respect and my best wishes. Those don't buy much, but maybe they count for something. Hindsight is 20-20; don't listen to folks that blame the unfortunate.
To hear the words "I have completely lost my love of being on the water" may be the most heart-breaking thing that I have ever heard. I know you're having a hell of a time, but the water called to you for a reason. You love her. Don't lose her because of this. Even if you have to go to a micro-boat and do some weekend boat-camping along the shore. do it. Recently A dear friend of mine lost her boat and has no way of getting bakc on the water and it's breaking me into pieces to watch her tragedy. Don't let it happen to you.
May not offer much comfort at the moment, but you have already made more memories than most do in a lifetime and you aren’t even getting started yet. I would guess that there are quite a number of folks that want to tag along thru the videos. Safe travels and,Cheers.
You should offer the sellers to undo the whole deal. If they don't agree then find a lawyer that makes it happen. They sold you a boat that was not theirs of the moment of sale.
I agree.
@@johanwithag2432 lol, she'd spend more on an attack dog lawyer than she has any chance of being awarded.
I’m a wanna be sailer, don’t know much about sailboats, …but I have only one question, what in the heck were you thinking about. Taking a boat out on the ocean without doing maintenance prior to leaving. Well good luck, ….🤠
Damn. I feel for you. I'm looking to buy my first boat and this is 100% of what I fear. I'll be getting a survey for sure! Good luck on your future endeavors.
Thank you. Lessons learned, no doubt. I’m happy that this video may have helped you. That was my whole reasoning for putting it out; to help others.
I am 68 and have learned that when hiring an "expert" hire two more to audit the audit. The cost upfront often justifies the cost on the back end if you are led astray. Of course, depending on the costs. When it comes to a major purchase definitely.
I am speaking specifically of lawyers. A faulty analysis or inaccurate assessment can bury you in expenses you may find you are unable/unwilling to meet later. Never look at any problem in the best case light, things will almost always go wrong.
This woman's knowledge of the current problems is very likely incomplete.
Four years ago I put out a bid for a small cabin sailing boat in a bad state on the dry because I had a cheap option to put it up and do it up I thought. But luckily the owner was too greedy and wanted more than I was willing to pay for the boat. A few months later he anchored the boat just in the bay near our house because he could not pay the dry storage fees any more, then covid struck and the boat was left to rot until it sunk during a storm 18 month ago. So now every day I go to the beach, I watch the remains of "my boat" sink deeper into the sand just because the owner could not cut his losses and sell for a reasonable price. So whatever you think bad about yourself, at least you knew when to end the adventure. I might not have been so lucky and would have bought a nightmare of a boat just because it seemed cheap and then spend a fortune on it..
Greetings from your home state of KS. Life is just a chain of mistakes - for ALL of us. You gotta love your mistakes like you planned em perfectly because they are LIFE. The bigger the better. CONGRATS!
Did you get a survey?
I am so, so, sorry for you! Please don’t give up your dreams! Give it some time if you can and reevaluate later. God bless you.
Thank you for sharing your story. Hope all your endeavors go well.
When it comes to living on the water and sailing. There is a universal procedure that has to get followed to enjoy this life style.
First you have to enjoy finding and solving problems with great enthusiasm and positivity. Solving problems is life and death out there any one who sailed will tell you it’s a chess game with every decision you make you have to be 5 moves ahead. There are unforeseen situations and ones that you have complete control over. Which you had complete control of buying the vessel.
When it comes to the vessel you have to get a survey done. Even an inexperienced surveyor Would have told you to run. Or get ready to spend 100k on the low side. Don’t beat your self up on leaving on living on the water. It’s definitely not for everyone and I mean that in the most sincere way. The vessel the transition to sailing Fulltime is the easy part. The unexpected situations you encounter in the open ocean and in shady places around the world are much greater than the ones you faced already. I say this with love and compassion. Stay salty everyone.
What baloney! In all my years of sailing, the number of long range voyages made on homemade, barebones vessels by bay and coastal sailors who did their homework, took their time and lived to tell about it taught me that blue water sailing is doable by a wide range of sailors with varied means and experience. Weather, as an example doesn't happen like someone rear ending you at a stop light and with today's communications forecasts give wide margins of time to prepare. The biggest problem is sailors who don't take the extreme situations seriously and equip, educate and train themselves on how to respond.
Did you have it surveyed?
Stay on Maritopia as your home. Those mid-Atlantic states are pretty cheap living, really, esp S. Carolina. You had a good thing going with Maritopia and are one of the few TH-camrs who really went about the boat and plan (Maritopia) in a level-headed way. You’ve made Maritopia a nice home. Take your time and find a shoreside job while you build some savings back up. Your diesel mechanic skills would keep you well-employed in almost any waterfront community. Rushed decisions are generally BAD decisions
Thank you so much for what you have shared. I'll miss seeing your updates, but sometimes you just have to move on! Best of luck with whatever you do next. :)
I really feel for you. Having built one boat and restored/refitted another, I know it's no child's play. But this is such a legendary boat, there is a book and several videos about it, what a shame. I hope you reconsider, I have seen people doing much more work to restore a classic, you could set up a series and document your rebuild on YT, I'm sure there are many DYIs out there that would be interested. Just think how many years it will take for you to get back on your feet. Rethink, postpone your dreams, and in the end you'll have a great boat and business to show for the years of labor. Just a thought. Good luck with your decision and Godspeed on your new journey.
I just found your channel through this video, and subscribed. Listen, dont let this bad purchase end your dream and passion, you were screwed on this deal and i'm 100% sure the seller knew it was garbage and still tried to make profit off your inexperience, I dont know why this was not detected when you did the boat survey. Give up on this boat, but dont give up on your dream, save up and buy something newer like not more than 20 years old and use this experience to find a reputable boat surveyor, and you personally need to inspect every inch of your new boat before you make any offer or close the deal. 38-44 feet is a good choice for long term liveaboard and ocean crossing, and still small enough to single hand with the right rigging. If the new boat is not sail ready and needs repairs, dont buy, this is a sign she was not taken care of properly, always remember the time and money spent on repairs even if done yourself will always cost more money they buying a boat ready to sail and you will have lost massive time in the process. Whatever amount you save for your new boat, only spend 80% of that on the boat purchase, save the remaining 20% for any unexpected repairs or upgrades you require. Dont plan any ocean crossings till after you've owned and lived aboard at least 1-3 years and had many day-weekend sea trials within 30 miles of your local marina. You can do this, you have great potential, and with the right boat she will be your home for many years. We have a 1978 Newport 30 we bought 1 month before covid Feb 2020, she is equipped to liveaboard but we live on land and spent many many weekends in the marina and within 20 miles offshore over the past 5.5 years. We bought her to learn and practice primarily, but with paying rent on land and paying rising marina fees and insurance fees, we are unable to save for our dream boat. We plan to spend this fall preparing the boat for sale around late Nov 2024 or Jan 2025, then put the money into a savings account along with the monthly amount we would have been paying for marina, insurance, and maintenance, then hopefully in 5-8 years we can afford our goal to purchase a 2000's Beneteau Oceanis 44-52 foot. We wish you all the best in life, follow your passion and heart, dont let anything discourage you, shit happens stay determined pick yourself up and stand strong!
I think you should get a Catalina 27, move in, and start giving sailing classes. Make a projection for 3 years to prepare the boat for solo cruising and make it happen. I spent 7 years in a 22ft. Learned all I could about sailing and repairs by working in boats for a yacht broker and a sailing school. Bought a Pearson 323 relying on my yacht broker, certified Surveyor and my own experience in do diligence in several yachts prior to my purchase. I understand your suffering, but you made the mistake of buying a boat without deep inspection. You should get your money back and not give up. You can do it!
Retired Kansan Sailor here. Very sorry to hear your bad luck story. It sucks and I feel your pain; It's apparent you've beaten yourself up over some recent decisions. Just move forward; time will take care of things. Older boats are a nightmare as you now know and I've heard very, very few good stories about older boats. They ALL require lots and lots of work, money and time. Enough of that. Just more forward; you are smart enough and skilled enough to get it together and find your way in this adventure we call life. I'm 67 y.o. now and I still have dreams and aspirations. Do not lose that part of life; do not crawl into a bottle. Take it from a former Navy drunk; it normally does not help. Use your head and your skills to find another dream, another vision and another plan. Figure out some goals and chase a new dream, follow your dream. It's all a journey and you can do it ! Take care Amy.....
You will probably save a lot of people a whole lotta money. It's one thing to hear someone got burned buying a sailboat (happens every day); it's a whole different ballgame to see so many specifics/pictures/video clips. Wish you all the best on the next one.
Out of the hundreds of comments, you’re the very first person to hit it on the head. That’s exactly why I ended up getting the camera out while I was in that mental state, so that everyone could see the emotions and toll it was taking on me.
I sure hope it helps others in their future quest.
Thank you very much! Live & learn. Life goes on.
Amy I would love to talk sometime and tell you MY Story of 2 boats , over 4 years , and 50k deep and and an even more infuriating outcome. I promise you'd laugh without it being funny and would surely make you feel better. So if you wanna drop me an Email , it would be fun.
I know and feel your pain so well , and yea , I am building my Nomad Van RV with the few salvaged lithiums/solar and other electronics I still have. You would look cool in a schoolbus or other home built mobile adventure wagon.
Take Care Amy.
Chris.
How can you return a boat that you took so much apart and is not in the same condition as when you brought it?
Brought it?
For what its worth, Amy, I enjoyed your channel (as a similar-age female who wishes she had the means and knowledge to attempt what you did). I'm sorry to see you go. I suspect your life would be interesting whether or not you were sailing. Have you considered that? Anyone can sail a boat and try to make a youtube channel, but its the person sailing the boat that makes the channel interesting.
So sorry to hear that this has happened to you, dig in deep get yourself sorted and come back x
So sorry for your situation and obvious distress. Just my opinion but i'd never set off-shore with frayed stays or shrouds, thats just a situation waiting to happen! With a janky diesel, bad battery and uncleaned tanks, it just turned into a USCG mayday. A reliable diesel is an ace card when things get bad on a sailboat.
Best of luck, Amy. Seems like cutting your losses with Fiona is the smartest move at this point.
I know the Westsail 42 well and would be glad to own one. And I've followed the travels of Eric in recent years. But honestly, it was clear to see from his many videos, that this boat was "ridden hard and put away wet". I could have told you five years ago to not buy this boat. BUT, for the cheap price you paid, and all the work it needs, it's still a bargain for someone and you should be able to find a buyer on the open market for what you have in it. If I were a few decades younger, I'd buy it in a heartbeat .
An experienced sailor friend told me - "the second best day of your life is when you buy the boat of your dreams. The best is when you sell it". Very sorry to hear of your troubles and wish you the best for the future.
SURVEY SURVEY SURVEY
I was gonna say, sounds like she didn't do her due diligence.
Should have listened to chasing latitudes