Everybody I know including myself loves there TPI bikes no reliability issues whatsoever. Very smooth linear power, killer in the tight technical singletrack. Sometimes they do need to be tuned and fiddled with out of the box to get running really good.
I know they’ve had their hiccups, but anyone I’ve talked to outside of hardheaded diehard carb guys, say the tpi worked great. I’ve only justed started to hear people regurgitate how “horrible” tpi was after they announced tbi for the 24’ bikes… in fact I’ve seen/heard a good number of people complaining about fouling plugs on tbi. I find that some people have trouble drawing the distinction between good marketing, and actual knowledge/experience.
You guys have such awesome places to ride. How bout sponsoring a contest (rigged where I am the winner) where you get to come ride with you guys for a couple days. Youse guys supply the bike and I bring all my riding gear. It would be a blast to ride with you and Spencer. My calendar looks open in November.
That water drop was hilarious - that guy looked like a turtle stuck on his back when he was trying to get back up😂😂😂 Get rid of the lame wrap around guards, those things are like training wheels. Bike is awesome.
I'm still rocking 2005 km 300 which I seen u and radio build an 04 which one of you I think still have you just can't beat the 300s I love all year model ktms
I recognize this place (IDAHO!) but won't be more specific. Are you going to put out a video of the ride as well? I rode one of these XCWs yesterday. Suspension was already messaged by ProTune so can't compare OEM. The bike feels a bit busier, yet stay's a bit higher in the stroke (I feel more comfortable with higher in the stroke), when compared to my '21 TE300 w/Lucky's and National. My TE felt more planted and had more initial compliance over rocks and roots. Riding was in tight Rocky Mountain single track. XCW feels small, or rather cockpit feels cramped, especially when standing (I'm 6'-3"). I would see if I could swap top triple clamp, and maybe see if I could get pegs a bit farther back (maybe a bit lower too?) to get more room in the cockpit. Engine power seems a bit quicker climbing through mid range, yet very linear. The bike I rode did have a Turbine Core 2.1. I've been buying Austrian built linkage bikes since 2012. They do get hung up more than PDS. I do prefer the over-all performance of linkage, but in most mountain single track I don't realize a huge gain over a properly set up PDS. I do get annoyed when the linkage bottoms out because it hits a rock when I'm not expecting it. Logs are less of a hindrance (to linkage) for me, but it can be quite noticeable on slanted logs (slanted down the fall line) when crossing them on side-hill trails. Rest assured, my linkage bike kicks sometimes too, and I've never had one of my PDS bikes kick so bad that I couldn't handle it. Over all, I don't see myself dumping my very well set up '21 TE for a '24. When I do replace my TE, I'm probably going to go with and XCW. I want to see how PDS works with a National shock. I might give this trials tire a try. I used to run the MT43 Pirelli and loved it. In my experience the Dunlop 803 had better traction but did not last nearly as long. MT43 was DOT approved as well. I went away from them when I saw the Kenda Equilibrium out performing. It seemed to have just as much traction yet worked more like a knobby when cornering, breaking, through the mud, and higher speed stuff. Hybrid tires have come a long way. I now prefer the IRC JX08 as my go to mountain tire. Whether, or not, having a trials tire "says old" is a silly consideration, and simply wouldn't have any weight for me when deciding. Things like performance, cost, and availability would. As always Jay, you put out a good video. I don't always agree with every one of your modifications, but you always have thoughtful rationale when deciding what to modify. Keep up the good work.
The final gearing is same even with 45 rear....smaller sprocket kess prone to damage Problem with constantly modifying bikes is your always looking to do it, even when you dont have too And you become super picky and when its over you need another from boredom Just ride it and enjoy
PDS suspension on the W no thanks. Get the XC version. Better suspension a and gear ratio. Nothing says senior rider more than running a trials tire on the rear.
@@dirtbiketv1 I just don't like the unpredictable kick of the PDS, even when valved. Single pivot has it's limitations. Linkage bikes settle into corners better. I have owned XC and XC-W. The closer ratio XC transmission is a better fit for most offroad riding. XC-W transmission sucks if you go up few teeth on the rear sprocket, you will basically lose first gear. I really don't see the downside to just buying the XC.
@@user-pp5or5og4k OK - last reply - I do way better on emails- So I am not a big PDS fan-- but if you have the luxury of multiple bikes the PDS is great on the trails and on our Dualpsports and no link is for sure better getting over logs and gnarly stuff and why most hard enduro KTM guys ride the PDS bikes- With that said I prefer linkage on all of our MX bikes and our 350XCF that we ride more higher speeds-- this 300XCW is a great all around trail bike but I think gonna be at home in the tight stuff- Also if you want to power a headlight or fan etc the XCW has the higher output stator stock- that is all- you wont go wrong either way if your riding a dirt bike--- I always say that there are guys on $2000 bike having just as much fun as me on a new one--
OK so yes we owned a XCW but not a TPI -- we had a XCW carb bike for a short bike but didnt prefer it to the XC - on the TPI bikes we skipped them all together and just rode a few buddies bikes now and then. sorry
I still have my 2011 Ktm300xc and love it. Enduros and Scrambles it's great ...almost 200 hrs. Maintenance it all time. Keeps it golden!
Everybody I know including myself loves there TPI bikes no reliability issues whatsoever. Very smooth linear power, killer in the tight technical singletrack. Sometimes they do need to be tuned and fiddled with out of the box to get running really good.
Yeah I have had 5 different tpi bikes with zero issues. I have a tbi TX300 and a '23 XCW300 and prefer the tpi.
Def not a fan. Haven’t had reliability issues but I don’t like the rubber band feeling of the throttle response.
The new TBI is definitely better than the TPI but also requires some tuning. A tuned Vortex ECU would really wake it up.
I like my TPI. It’s real smooth in tight trees.
I know they’ve had their hiccups, but anyone I’ve talked to outside of hardheaded diehard carb guys, say the tpi worked great. I’ve only justed started to hear people regurgitate how “horrible” tpi was after they announced tbi for the 24’ bikes… in fact I’ve seen/heard a good number of people complaining about fouling plugs on tbi. I find that some people have trouble drawing the distinction between good marketing, and actual knowledge/experience.
Fantastic bike out of the box and a great starting point for someone that has the means to build a killer single track/hard enduro bike.
Love that you're riding in Idaho! ( In my back yard ) and a great review
Absolutely loving mine so far
Great to hear someone enjoy a new bike, instead of complain that the xc is so much more powerful.. lol. , just ride it !! great video.
Awesome bike build! Looks great and sounds like it is a great bike for most riders
You guys have such awesome places to ride. How bout sponsoring a contest (rigged where I am the winner) where you get to come ride with you guys for a couple days. Youse guys supply the bike and I bring all my riding gear. It would be a blast to ride with you and Spencer. My calendar looks open in November.
Love the 2 stroke reviews. I think I’m getting me a red one!
I have a 2024 300 XCW Hard Enduro on order. Can't wait to give it a try! Thanks for the review.
Where are you going to get the hard enduro version. My local shops tell me they get what they get . No special orders.
@@btcustoms6157 Rocky Mountain ATV/MC Dealership Outlet.
Right on Jay!! Your builds are really cool. That rear tire is interesting.....
Try one of those rear tires, you will never go back to a regular nob. You have to use them with very soft moose.
Looks like a game changer
Boy you guys hosed up a really good stock bike quick
That water drop was hilarious - that guy looked like a turtle stuck on his back when he was trying to get back up😂😂😂
Get rid of the lame wrap around guards, those things are like training wheels.
Bike is awesome.
Awesome video! This bike looks amazing!
I have always been a fan of the XC-W!!
I'm still rocking 2005 km 300 which I seen u and radio build an 04 which one of you I think still have you just can't beat the 300s I love all year model ktms
Absolutely love my billetron carb....for now.
You said the suspension is a bit soft, what weight are you guys. I am planning on getting one and want to know if I should buy springs right away.
I recognize this place (IDAHO!) but won't be more specific. Are you going to put out a video of the ride as well?
I rode one of these XCWs yesterday. Suspension was already messaged by ProTune so can't compare OEM. The bike feels a bit busier, yet stay's a bit higher in the stroke (I feel more comfortable with higher in the stroke), when compared to my '21 TE300 w/Lucky's and National. My TE felt more planted and had more initial compliance over rocks and roots. Riding was in tight Rocky Mountain single track. XCW feels small, or rather cockpit feels cramped, especially when standing (I'm 6'-3"). I would see if I could swap top triple clamp, and maybe see if I could get pegs a bit farther back (maybe a bit lower too?) to get more room in the cockpit. Engine power seems a bit quicker climbing through mid range, yet very linear. The bike I rode did have a Turbine Core 2.1. I've been buying Austrian built linkage bikes since 2012. They do get hung up more than PDS. I do prefer the over-all performance of linkage, but in most mountain single track I don't realize a huge gain over a properly set up PDS. I do get annoyed when the linkage bottoms out because it hits a rock when I'm not expecting it. Logs are less of a hindrance (to linkage) for me, but it can be quite noticeable on slanted logs (slanted down the fall line) when crossing them on side-hill trails. Rest assured, my linkage bike kicks sometimes too, and I've never had one of my PDS bikes kick so bad that I couldn't handle it. Over all, I don't see myself dumping my very well set up '21 TE for a '24. When I do replace my TE, I'm probably going to go with and XCW. I want to see how PDS works with a National shock.
I might give this trials tire a try. I used to run the MT43 Pirelli and loved it. In my experience the Dunlop 803 had better traction but did not last nearly as long. MT43 was DOT approved as well. I went away from them when I saw the Kenda Equilibrium out performing. It seemed to have just as much traction yet worked more like a knobby when cornering, breaking, through the mud, and higher speed stuff. Hybrid tires have come a long way. I now prefer the IRC JX08 as my go to mountain tire. Whether, or not, having a trials tire "says old" is a silly consideration, and simply wouldn't have any weight for me when deciding. Things like performance, cost, and availability would.
As always Jay, you put out a good video. I don't always agree with every one of your modifications, but you always have thoughtful rationale when deciding what to modify. Keep up the good work.
Correction, D-803 works awesome in muddy conditions with tubliss set at 2 to 3 psi.
Especially if there's lots of slimy roots, rocks and holes.
The handle bars, why the change? Personal preference ? Better for stand up riding?
Less air pressure in the trils tire and it will clean out better
What skid plate are yall using for the 2024 300 xcw?
I have owned both 2 and 4 stroke KTMs and reliability was never one of my issues.
Nice vid. Where can I purchase the map switch for my new 2024 KTM 300XCW?
Email Jay. Contact info in About tab. Or link in bio on Instagram.
@@dirtbiketv1 Thanks
The final gearing is same even with 45 rear....smaller sprocket kess prone to damage
Problem with constantly modifying bikes is your always looking to do it, even when you dont have too
And you become super picky and when its over you need another from boredom
Just ride it and enjoy
What state are you riding in, I need to get out of commy cali,looks beautiful place
I find alot of clutch slip on the 300 rekluse. Not good for sand. Any thoughts?
Not Utah this time where is this?
What you doin in my mountains 😂
Is this the bike that went for a swim?
WHAT FRONT TIRE WITH TL01?
YZ250FX for the win.
I would say you probably have to get in line might be able to muster up 4th Place
PDS suspension on the W no thanks. Get the XC version. Better suspension a and gear ratio. Nothing says senior rider more than running a trials tire on the rear.
I'll take either one. I've got PDS to work very very well on a couple of my KTMs. Although It does take someone that knows how🙃
haha- I get it- but dang it hooks up good and I agreed with you on the XC deal until I rode this.
@@dirtbiketv1 I just don't like the unpredictable kick of the PDS, even when valved. Single pivot has it's limitations. Linkage bikes settle into corners better. I have owned XC and XC-W. The closer ratio XC transmission is a better fit for most offroad riding. XC-W transmission sucks if you go up few teeth on the rear sprocket, you will basically lose first gear. I really don't see the downside to just buying the XC.
@@user-pp5or5og4k OK - last reply - I do way better on emails- So I am not a big PDS fan-- but if you have the luxury of multiple bikes the PDS is great on the trails and on our Dualpsports and no link is for sure better getting over logs and gnarly stuff and why most hard enduro KTM guys ride the PDS bikes- With that said I prefer linkage on all of our MX bikes and our 350XCF that we ride more higher speeds-- this 300XCW is a great all around trail bike but I think gonna be at home in the tight stuff- Also if you want to power a headlight or fan etc the XCW has the higher output stator stock- that is all- you wont go wrong either way if your riding a dirt bike--- I always say that there are guys on $2000 bike having just as much fun as me on a new one--
@@user-pp5or5og4kJust get the Husky version then. Linkage baby.
and no s/a.
Did you own one or not. One of you says yes other says no. Do you talk before putting content out.
OK so yes we owned a XCW but not a TPI -- we had a XCW carb bike for a short bike but didnt prefer it to the XC - on the TPI bikes we skipped them all together and just rode a few buddies bikes now and then. sorry
Sure not any kind of review just buy any bike and change most of the stock parts and end of with a 20K dirt bike. No thanks!
where was record it? good nature
Why is the mapping still known by colour ? I