Watching The Goku Black ARC(The Manga Movie)
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They forgot a part before zamasu kills Gowasu where he asks black why he killed the gods too and black tells him that “he already knew they would be against the idea”. Gowasu than claps back by basically saying “that just means you knew what you are doing is wrong” goku black than has no response and starts SWEATING knowing he just got exposed lol.
DANM gowasu was a beast in the manga, in the anime hes just there doing almost nothing
Gowasu was NOT playing
W
People really like saying “zamasu had a point” when he was really doing nothing but losing a game of pin the donkey.
He skipped many shit ngl
"Trunks, I couldn't stop it" Goku could've gotten away with it🤣
*Fun Fact:*
DBZ Kakarot covers Trunks’ events against Babidi even more.
Plenty of the final fight from _Kakarot_ mimics the actions and panel work from the DBS’ manga’s displays.
Clearly inspired to keep them relatively the same.
Plus Akira said kakarot is supposed to be more canon to the manga than the anime, so hopefully in the future we get the black arc in dlc or smthn
not inspired that what akira wanted hes the one behind kakarot after all and xenoverse 2 all dragon ball content games its all canon
@@XenoVibezz makes sense, since there are an infinite number of timelines.
@@RandomName-xx9ls that’s why he made dragon ball online years ago and people still think GT and heroes and xenoverse series and fighterz is non canon when he explained it is
The even left out the part where he actually slice them from the balls up. 😂
Making Trunks’ Supreme Kai training useful in this arc was such a good decision, one of my favorite parts of the manga version of the arc
And no dumb ahhh super saiyan rage
@@orbboom6119SSJ rage sucks
It's funny that even with that training he is irrelevant as fuck
@_SSCJ imo the form at least looks cool and is different than a palette swap, and makes some reasonable sense. Sucks that it was kinda useless though.
@@rileyinscoe3558 What sense does it make?? It’s supposedly unlocked by anger based off the name but that’s one of the ways to unlock NORMAL super saiyan, so you’re telling me he’s the only one to get this form because he’s angrier than anyone else has ever been?
man... i wished the best moments of the manga and anime was combined. Seeing this makes me wished the highs of both arcs were just in the same medium
well toei shouldve not made the anime first when there was no manga
@@XenoVibezz well they did too bad
@@XenoVibezz The manga was made first and was ahead of the anime at first. However, around the beginning of hte U6 arc, the anime surpassed the manga. Instead of stopping the anime or putting in fillers during the MIDDLE of the first real arc , Toei, Toriyama, and Toyotarou just decided to let the anime be ahead.
@@jantheking7028bro what? The manga was promotional material for the anime at first…
@tay14741 Doesnt change a thing he said, the manga came out two weeks before the anime aired
One scene the manga cuts is Vegeta speech when beating The Goku Black. The fact that Zamasu could never fully utilize Goku body because he took the shortcut, that Goku is strong because of years of training, discipline and being a Saiyan. That scene hits hard AF in the anime.
Actually no, that speech is done at the beginning when Zamasu can't even transform into Blue, so that's why Vegeta does the speech
Y'know trunks cutting a goku black and zamasu who are off guard and splitting so they're panicking in half makes way more sense then him straight up cutting merged zamasu in half cause even if he was corrupted that fucker was still trading blows with vegito blue.
Ngl I like Goku using the Mafuba and grabbing a tag but the wrong tagged way more than in the anime simply forgetting it and then trunks learning it
Yeah I liked how they handled the Sealing with Goku much better here as well, the anime just made Goku look incompetent.
Goku winning the beam struggle makes more sense in the manga than the anime.
After video watch: I thought Goku went ultra instinct sign against fused Zamasu during the beam struggle? I guess I was mistaken
He was just stronger zamasu is carried by immortality in manga
In the anime goku literally broke his arms by how much power he used to beat the attack.
And Zamasu can't actually ADD more energy to a Ki sphere like that, only increase the force he's pushing it with. So Goku can keep recklessly cranking up the juice til his beam punches through it
I really like that there's no "what's a kiss?" scene in the manga, cuz that shit made no sense
It's in the manga too, but regardless the whole joke for both the anime and the manga wasn't about the kiss itself but the fact that Trunks was feeding a senzu bean via kissing that had Goku confused since he's never fed a sensual bean mouth to mouth before.
Super Saiyan Goku Black?!
God Vegeta *before* Super Broly?!
Why the *fuck* didn't they keep this in the anime
anime was first
At the end of the day I do prefer the anime to the manga, because as clunky as it was, at least Trunks was relevant. I can't name one thing Trunks did between arriving in the future and cutting Merged Zamasu in half. He is even more irrelevant than he was in Z after killing Mecha Frieza.
Not saying the anime wasn't flawed in power scaling and retcons, but at least it didn’t make me actively forget Trunks was around.
And at least Trunks had actual character work in the anime, he learns to believe and rely on himself and what he has in his timeline rather than running to the future for help. In the manga, he runs to the future for help and does next to nothing afterwards.
What annoys me about zamasu’s motivation was he saw a couple species doing savage shit but then dukes it out to a different species and it’s even more civilized than the one he saw
I gotta say. The manga is goated, but i kinda wish they kept gooner zamasu and him becoming the entire universe, instead of being multiple of them.
Gooner Zamasu is a fantastic name
yeah cuz then erasing the entire multiverse makes sense while zeno was being a dick here destroying the wold even tho he can finish every last atom of zamasu with one swipe
@@zeeshanismail7768 Honestly, I'm like bro could😂 you not have just bombed the area?The planet? Heck if he really wanted to make sure the solar system , but the whole timeline??? 😭
I think zamasu was actually asking some pretty good questions. like when you’re overseeing the universe, its fair to think “whats the point in all this? Tf is the point? Why don’t we just interfere n’ correct all the evil?”
Thats some pretty fair stuff to be asking about… the problem was Gowasu was absolutely dogshit at answering those questions, bro basically just said “because I said so”. And then that led to Zamasu coming to his own fucked up answers to his own questions. Obviously the fact Zamasu instantly went to genocide means he was never really a good dude at heart, but at first he was just asking some genuinely good quesions
This Arc is top tier,And Vegeta wasn't being a loser,he was catching a dub till Zamusu interfered and sneak attacked him,w story
15:54 The Pilaf gang are semi gag characters. It makes sense that she is extremely durable.
28:16 It wasn’t a retcon, in the manga version of the Buu saga Goku said that it ran out.
Just to let you know Mai also survived a explosion inside a vehicle with gasoline, and only black marks were on her she is one of the luckiest characters in Dragon Ball
Manga scale makes a lot more sense. A mortal Trunks scales right there with Goku and Vegeta before they use God-Ki. He’s a hybrid and he’s been training. Makes sense.
The gap from Completed Blue Goku to Vegito is still evident as well as the power limit of the potaras. Makes them using Gogeta against Broly make a lot more sense.
Anime did build it up better but I believe it’s really just the fact that it’s animated. How many panels did we really need of Smoku Black?
The scene in the anime where Vegito hit Zamasu with the turnaround Spirit Sword was one of the hardest scenes in the anime.
Manga just make a bit more sense to me. Like u said, no BS ssrage, no BS Sword of Hope. U can see the build up for the TOP and the development of Blue and Red. This and Moro prolly the two best arcs.
Trunks isn't relevant and SSB perfected is just as out of nowhere as Rage, the only difference being they give an explanation
Perfected Blue is literally the continuation of the ki leakage issue that was shown in the previous arc U6.
@@superexclusive452
That’s fine. But in the manga, when Goku is using Perfected Blue, he’s acknowledged as being stronger than he was during his earlier fight. In the anime, not only does he start to outfight Zamasu but even when his arms are broken, he’s dealing damage. Further proving that despite the Ki leakage issue, he was a lot stronger than when they initially boxed.
I still wish they gave Trunks more to do, instead of just being reduced to temporary white mage. I also think that Goku Black was significantly less interesting and entertaining in the manga, despite being drawn much better. In general, the setpieces used for fights were significantly less interesting as a whole. There's also the "Supreme Kai" qualification plothole that the manga introduced which is nonexistent in the anime.
For some things, I prefer the manga, and for others, I prefer the anime. I like to consider both.
@philswift8793 Perfected Blue makes sense, Rage doesnt.
The Goku Black Arc in the Manga is the SUPERIOR VERSION!!!!
Just wanted to say that I like your content, commentary, and just overall how enthusiastic you are about Dragon Ball
Manga - Goku doesnt see Hakai but does it
Anime - Reverse
12:38 plus he probably wanted to prove himself superior to the mortals first before he ended them, if he just wished them all away that would kinda just be him admitting to himself that the mortals were stronger than him
Originally Toriyama didn't intended to add Vegito in this arc but the toei add vegito to make it feel bigger
And fused character vs another fused character
Don't know why vegito wasn't in his original plan if black and zamsu fused they have to fused to fight fire with fire
@@kaidenjohnson2624because Zamasu/Black wasn't supposed all strong and Goku and Vegeta would have been enough by themselves let alone together. Toyotaro mentioned this in a interview that one of Toriyama's plot points was that Zamasu was only being carried by the immortality
15:55 she musta been getting them durability gains
30:07 she musta been hitting the gym 30 times a day
Getting maximum gains
24:54 That's not exactly true for Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan uses a lot of energy to go into the form so switching between 1 or 2 into 3 would drain Goku much faster than staying in 3. I honestly don't see how blue and Super Saiyan god are different but whatever.
SSG supposedly in not a SSJ like form, it’s a divine base form. For comparisons sake, if there was a SSB 2 (SSB Evolved) the cost of switching from SSB to SSB2 is there. But SSG to SSB isn’t
We’re getting close to the Moro arc 😈
😂
We’re getting closer to the Moro arc with this one 🔥🗣️
To be fair, the potara stuff isn't really a retcon due to it never really being that explored. It was vague about the permanent situation and elder kai who is known to forget things clearly left that out which makes sense in universe and makes sense as to why vegetto defused against buu
No. It's a retcon. Elder Kai gave definitive statements about the Potara and has no business to not know how his own tools work or leave out such an important detail. And because of those statements, other DB media rolled with it and made Potara permanent while Fusion was temporary and could fail, even going as far as for Dragonball Fusion to incorporate elements of both with EX Fusion, not having a time limit and not having a failure state like Potara, but using the dance like Fusion. It's a MAJOR retcon to then say all of that was wrong because what was said all those years ago about the Potara was false, with the only reasonable explanation being that either Elder Kai is a jackass who didn't mention the time limit on purpose, or a dumbass that either doesn't know how his own tools that were used to make him work.
@espurrseyes42 again...for all we knew, potara WAS permanent based on what elder kai said. Still doesn't add up what happened with buu's body defusing them considering gotenks was still fused. You're also forgetting elder kai forgot a lot of shit. Also using a video game to determine how something in the story works is crazy. The only that matters is kakarot since toriyama helped work on it. Again, it's all on elder kai for forgetting or didn't know because he's never seen fusion with two mortals. Ofc he'd think it'd be permanent. So no, not a retcon
@@lordkai59
There is no "was" permanent. There's no evidence that the mechanics of Potara changed in-universe. From the information we've been given, Elder Kai lied about how they work. And before you try to say to give him the benefit of doubt that he didn't know about the Kai fusee stipulation, you're expecting too much of anyone to think that a Kai as old as him doesn't know how his own tools are supposed to work.
It's not A videogame. It's EVERY videogame that's ever had Vegito in it. Which is a LOT of them. Budokai 2 and 3. Tenkaichi series. Xenoverse. Dragonball FUSIONS that has a special Fusion variant that merges aspects of both existing types. Various other games. All of which are based on the same canon material that states Potara is permanent. For multiple decades.
8:16 mortals or i guess you could say
M word😂😂😂😂
Mai on her Drake shit.
About Goku liking the name. Everything’s better in black.
Goku is the new black
sage locked in with the DBZ content and in all for it🔥
In defence of fusing zamasu fusing with the timeline, that shit is hilarious
Bro I remember watching that when I was 11 I was fucking confused
Imagine Goku recognizes mai from his childhood and say "hey your that one girl who worked with the short guy when I was a kid!" Trunks and Vegetas faces would be priceless 😂
The part I thought was really cool which they skimmed over in this manga movie is the fact that Future Trunks in his SSJ2 form was actually on par with SSJ3 Goku, which actually shocked both Goku and Vegeta. Trunks got knocked out by SSG Goku, only being noticed by Vegeta.
Damn I enjoyed this video more than I expected to
I think the cat being in the time machine was a joke at Schrodinger's Cat lol
did the dude skip the part where it states that trunks special ssj2 form was stronger than goku's super saiyan 3? that part was kinda important tbh.
We need you to keep watching the manga especially after where the anime ended
While that shot of the thousands of Zamasu squaring up was dope, I still prefer him fusing with the universe. It just goes to show how broken the Super Dragon Balls are, him becoming the universe made the situation feel hopeless, and it made all the more sense for Zeno to erase the entire timeline.
Tbh Mai has always been a question on why she didn't die long ago...she once even tanked a full on explosion that they planted to kill Goku, Bulma and Oolong with.
Gonna admit...the anime Black arc was trash by comparison. The Kais were getting down to BUSINESS in the manga. Instead the anime takes out all the Kais work and ends up being drawn out badly.
“Kill him four times” caught me off guard guard😂😂😂😂
Isn’t Mai like 40 ish years old but got accidentally turned back into a child during gt ? Or is this a different mai with kid trunks
Okay just got to that part in the video 😂🤣
Closer to 70 actually
I cant be the only one who thought of the cjdachamp video when he said “godtube” iykyk😂
keep in mind the mai in dbs is around 40-60 cause shes way older than goku because she was a grown women when pilaf wished for them all to turn young again
38:14 Trunks does have a wild pull game 😂😂😂
Them manga movies are always on point. I remember doing one punch man to the manga movies and baki. They keep the hype going (and is the whole reason i was upset with season two opm. metal bat was going IN). Good idea to do this bro
listen if zenkai exists why wont goku and vegeta just continuosly almost kill each other and then pop a senzu
That's why they're sparring in the first place.
They have the desire to fight so they don't do it that way.
14:45 Among Us reference is Wild !!!
Can’t wait till we watch The Return of Cooler 😭
"Man I hate that little shi-" The result of insulting Zeno (the destruction of everything) 🤯
trunks need to take off that hot ass jacket
He needs to go back to his old drip 😫
probably gave kid trunks blue hair to keep it actually consistent because Bulma trunks both versions and Bulla really are supposed to have purple hair the original Bulma design had purple hair which is why Trunks has purple hair and if you look at it Dr.Briefs has purple hair Panchy and Tights have blonde hair.
This doesn’t apply to super but I’ve always hoped you would invest more into Manga. it seems like the author’s intent is important to you it always made sense that you would end up going to work on the source material. Really appreciate these videos from you as a fellow fan
It skipped the part where trunks was able to power up matching ssj3 Goku while staying in ssj2 form
13:52 Well luckily for you there’s fan theories about Zarama (the creator of the Super Dragon Balls and the amazing Super Shenron) being the true creator/omni king 👀
It’s just a shame that they cut, “Don’t shoot, this man isn’t black,” line
It was never in the manga
@@kaidenjohnson2624 I know, I mean it wasn’t carried over from the anime because believe it or not, I read the manga
When I watched the Goku Black Arc, I was like “that was a ki particle, how does a human survive that!”😩
another unmentioned manga W: the anime makes a quirk about Goku saying he just needs to beat up a Black guy. They removed the single word that made that questionable lol
Elaborate?
@@laary7589 Goku often says "guy" after Black in many sentences in the anime, but the manga kind of distinguishes itself iirc
It's been a bit so I haven't been focusing on this aspect as much
also apparently subtitle Krillin states, "the black one, his power is increasing!"
stg they shoulda just used another name, it's too easy now LOL
Til this day, i dont know why Mai is young in Future Trunks' timeline.
THIS.
No Dragonballs since Trunks was a baby
Almost all the Earth's population was wiped out, no way Pilaf and co. made it for like 30 years after the androids. It's dumb as fuck
Why she’s young is because during the Androids first attack, the Pilaf gang collected all of the Dragon Balls and wished to be younger.
Dbz manga includes the part where they wished to become babies, they later add this reference to Super of them being children.
Bro skipped over so many statements 💀
Yeah he should just read than watch
You should definitely react to the Moro arc first then the granolah arc from Carthu’s Dojo
Love the content bro keep it up 💯🙌
"That don't mean you go around sayin the n-word" man who gon stop him? 😂😂
Fun fact: TRUNKS is dating mai and mai is over 80 years old, older than trunks mother 😱
I still don't understand how in a future timeline with NO Dragonballs that the Pilaf Gang seemingly still got de aged in that evil future
@@richborn6700I don't think the timelines are the same in anyway so maybe she's actually the same age as future trunks also what if she doesn't know who pilaf and the dog is but Akira fucked up the anime so his fault in the end
@@Von.gzzz0
The timelines are the same up until Mecha Frieza. In Trunks' timeline, Goku offs him, there's peace since they don't know about the Androids, and Goku dies of Heart Virus before the Androids kill everyone but Gohan, Bulma, and Trunks. So unless the Pilaf Gang became kids before when the Android Saga would've happened, there are no Dragon Balls to use. And there's no implication that this happened. There's no reason for future Mai to be around Trunks' age.
@@espurrseyes42 dude I watched dbz you don't gotta explain but I'm not talking about dbz this is about super maybe she was never old like present mai we don't know nor can we assume
@@Von.gzzz0
I do gotta explain since this is the same timeline from Z, progressed forward towards past when Babidi and gang showed up. It's not a different timeline. Mai was already an adult in Classic, and would've been older in Z, where Piccolo died and the Dragon Balls with him in the Trunks timeline to prevent the wish in Super that turns her into a kid. It's not possible for there to be a younger Mai in that timeline.
21:40 that’s not fair. If it wasn’t for him Kid Buu would have killed Goku and Vegeta in the earth devastation attack if I’m not mistaken
Can’t wait for Moro
Bro dropped this video and didn’t alert me immediately smh Fr
I don't feel anyway, Mai is basically a rencarnater
no she isnt tho she kept her memories
35:31 blud... AGAIN HE ALREADY KNOWS
Next watch Mondocools moro arc!
I stand by the fact the manga is better 😤
It’s time for the Moro Arc 😈😈😈 (Can you watch Carthu’s Dojo?)
Everytime we hear sage talk about Videl, it always makes me think, what about Mai?
Zeno went OD for no reason 😭
3:43 Fr tho 😂😂😂
I hope you know how refreshing these manga videos are.
31:20 perfected Blue
you should read the manga in video monthly when the manga returns for new chapter
They skipped the mario kart part. Please read the arc itself.
21:18 The cat too lmao ❤❤❤
What if 1 of the zamasus reached the universe 12 time machine before the timeline got wiped out?
W content, gon head n do the granola n morro arcs
When you read the Granola arc, I suggest that you watch Carthu's Dojo's explanation of the arc
Love ❤ the Goku Black saga from the anime series more
Zamasu in the anime ended up being way stronger than he was originally supposed to be and that’s another Toei L
Toei accidentally turned that man into Madara and couldn't figure out how go write the ending 😭
The anime scaling makes more sense, considering they went blue AFTER fusing, which made vegito a lot weaker than he could've been.
I’m here for the manga review arc.
Moro next would make all my days!
u should read n catch all the way up that would be mad fire
Future Trunks deserved better.
He sacrificed so much only to have his world (including the afterlife containing all his loved ones disappear). Fuck that.
At the very LEAST, he should have stayed in the main timeline because there he at least has made genuine friendships with the people there. Why he need to go to some new parallel world he's a stranger in and doesn't belong?
if you played dragon ball online you know why this need to happen this is still trunks fault for going back in time at the end of the day thats why theres a xeno trunks so he can fix the timelines and dimensions that he made. and if you played xenoverse 2 and kakarot it would make even more sense
@@XenoVibezz I don't really care about the xenoverse/dragon ball heros canon. It's cringe ngl
@@lololol924 that how akira felt he never liked the term canon and non canon because he never seen his work non canon just other dimensions and the cause of it was all trunks
Just sayin, if Goku and Friends used the Fire Hydrant in that last scuffle, they would’ve won.
If you know, you know.
"same mickey mouse ending" what would have been a good ending then, man?
You missed the part where they said ssj2 Trunks was stronger than ssj3 Goku, for some reason.
tbf trunks is a hybrid saiyan and ssj3 drains too much energy to be really reliable
He basically achieved ssj 2 grade 4
That’s because of the power-boost potential growth that came from after doing his post-kaioshin training to the point where when he was on his own he rained himself to the brink of death during the few years of peace he had in his world before goku black showed up to where he achieved in Max full power variant state of SS2.
Yeah, but you all forget Goku in base is god level so he should in theory be stronger than ssj2 Trunks in base form.
@@jg5004nah, in the manga, he doesn’t absorb SSG into his base form.
Wait so the Manga added zenkai limits why other then to make the stakes higher but still it one of there many unique abilities and what separates sayains from other races first was the tail now the sayain most usefull ability zenkai
38:21 Mai just looks younger she’s like 70
Soo if mai somehow still had life in her a sensu can still save her so I guess its more of q she was very close to death scenario but like this is also the manga ssb goku was taken out by a laser soooooo does it really matter at this point?
Gonna say the universe 6 saga is way better in the manga, you'll definitely enjoy it
14:29 You right frfr 😂😂😂
LETS GOOO ! WERE SO BACK !