Top 5 WRIST FLEXION Exercises after a Fracture

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  • Michelle, Founder of Virtual Hand Care, shows you how to get wrist flexion back after a wrist sprain, fracture, or other arm injury. These top 5 wrist flexion exercises make it easy to recover your wrist flexion range of motion.
    If you are limited in bending your wrist then you know how hard daily activities like eating, preparing food, or performing your favorite hobbies and sports. In this video, I'll guide you through my Top 5 Wrist Flexion Exercises you can do after a Fracture or Elbow injury. These are active and passive stretching exercises to get your wrist bending.
    You may also be looking for forearm supination (turning your palm up) and/or wrist extension (moving your wrist back). I've got your covered!
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    00:00 Top 5 Wrist Flexion Exercises after a Fracture
    01:08 Wrist Flexion Exercise #1- Active wrist and forearm warm up
    03:01 Wrist Flexion Exercise #2- Active wrist flexion
    05:08 Wrist Flexion Exercise #3- Passive wrist flexion stretch with forearm massage
    08:27 Wrist Flexion Exercise #4- Isolated wrist flexion
    11:20 Wrist Flexion Exercise #5- Wrist flexion with gentle traction
    Doing wrist exercises and stretches properly will be far more effective if you stick around for the whole video and come back to these daily!
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    This video is for educational and demonstration purposes only and is not to be used as a replacement for seeking medical advice or treatment of your condition. Virtual Hand Care, or its members, do not offer medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always consult with your doctor or healthcare provider before starting any exercise program. Please know that performing any exercise or program is solely at your own risk.

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  • @VirtualHandCare
    @VirtualHandCare  3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Let me know what you think of these wrist flexion exercises! These are some of my favorite!

    • @soniahofmann4969
      @soniahofmann4969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's been almost 3 months I fractured my radial wrist bone and the swelling has never gone down so when I do these exercises I don't get the flexion I need because the skin is so tight what should I do

    • @khattakjani6722
      @khattakjani6722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ma'am, how are you? My wrist is broken and it's been four months now. It's still swollen.

    • @sunitakale9484
      @sunitakale9484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I started going to gym but after some days, in an accident I broke my right wrist. My dream was to build a great physic........

    • @ahmedmasoud3914
      @ahmedmasoud3914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes GOD will reward you with blessing cause you’re helping injured people to recover . We all love you and appreciate you 🙏

    • @andreagoncalvescardos4809
      @andreagoncalvescardos4809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@soniahofmann4969 research on hot compress to reduce swelling, I believe you do it before exercise

  • @mpdubiel
    @mpdubiel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I broke my wrist and had my cast removed 2 months ago. I went back to the doctor because of stiffness and pain. After some X-rays, they said it all looked good and to just give it time. No mention of therapy😩. This video has been extremely helpful for my recovery!! My wrist literally felt 5 times better after the first session! Thanks for the help!!!

    • @simsy123
      @simsy123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How's it going now? Did the exercises work?

  • @diegovaldes3471
    @diegovaldes3471 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Scaphoid fracture team here! plus two other hand fractures as well...after 12 weeks on cast this feels great! Thank you so much! Fast Recovery to everyone here!!

  • @cian4468
    @cian4468 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    All 5 are my favorites. They're so helpful and unlike others I've come across online.

  • @barbarafischer8569
    @barbarafischer8569 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You’re videos are excellent. Your explanations and demonstrations are far more helpful than the last month of occupational therapy that I ‘ve had since I broke my wrist and a plate and 6 screws were put in. Thank you so much. The stiffness is finally starting to flex in my wrist and fingers. I highly recommend your videos!

  • @eh5945
    @eh5945 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you - so happy to find your channel!

  • @carriemitchell8021
    @carriemitchell8021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos are so helpful,healing and enjoyable.I definitely see the difference daily in my wrist mobility.

  • @susansalvo8005
    @susansalvo8005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the exercises. I have been using all your exercises and have been pleased with the success.

  • @conniekucharski8744
    @conniekucharski8744 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you so much for theses exercises! I’m only 3 weeks post op, but very beneficial 🥰

  • @dny3260
    @dny3260 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! I am hooked on watching your wrist exercises. This is the 2nd time hurting my wrists and your videos have helped the most. Thanks again

  • @colleensmyth8447
    @colleensmyth8447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes they worked really well ☺️ all of them are helping me. Thank you so much!!

  • @Tfha1
    @Tfha1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All helpful! Thanks for allyour tips and your great teaching style.

  • @edwinmorales2721
    @edwinmorales2721 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Michelle! just I needed

  • @sarahsoor6219
    @sarahsoor6219 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You’re an angel 😇 Your exercises and advice helping me a lot with my right forearm - radial head/ neck hairline fracture. Thank you 🙏

  • @mrsdobbs17
    @mrsdobbs17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really think this is going to help. I appreciate these videos very much. Thank you! 😊

  • @MERCFATMAN
    @MERCFATMAN ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW all these really gave me a better look on how these exercises can be helpful. definitely going to do this throughout the day. thanks for the exercises.

  • @mootot7413
    @mootot7413 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you so much Michelle. I broke my wrist in Aug 23 and dilligently followed your many videos. I didnt undergo surgery but after 2 months in cast, I had recovered very well to remove the cast and was back playing badminton! Thank you so very much.

  • @DawnMartin-zy6po
    @DawnMartin-zy6po 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this video!

  • @user-wy1us9vi1d
    @user-wy1us9vi1d 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your great information

  • @ceced1417
    @ceced1417 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Omg I’ve been having some wrist pain and these helped so much! Thank you❤

  • @jessythomas2994
    @jessythomas2994 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank u for the vedeo Michelle. They are so helpful and useful . God bless u Michelle .

  • @kikiday2102
    @kikiday2102 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent! I could do these without the pain I have at OT using the net press and hand presses which put too much pressure on the top of my hand and kept me from loosening up the wrist properly due to discomfort. Love the traction pull prior to the last press. Love the active rather than passive stretches. Loved the tip on not flexing and extending in the same series before measurements. Trying to get "catch" back (swimming). Warm up exercise perfect for wake up with swelling mornings. Thank you! (DRF volar plate, 71, master's swimmer/ballet dancer).

  • @donnahardin4651
    @donnahardin4651 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow - you are sooo kind and compassionate. I have been soo discouraged with my hand specialist….no empathy. Thank you for the great tips.

  • @dorisruiz4801
    @dorisruiz4801 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. I will follow your exercises besides my Pt. Your voice and pace is great. Thanks

  • @andrewconnolly7020
    @andrewconnolly7020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just did the is flexion routine for the first I feel I’ve gained mobility already. The descriptions of the details are a huge benefit

  • @naeemazehra6775
    @naeemazehra6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i am here again doing hand exercises. some times hard to believe that my fingers had become so stiff honestly i thought i have to live with this pain for the rest of my life. but one day suddenly you pop up showing very good and
    effective exercises. i was not able to to put my fingers on key board now i am typing. thanks lot michelle. God bless you.

  • @steveharwood2214
    @steveharwood2214 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks the best i have seen, has helped me recover my normal hand movment

  • @lalayj2127
    @lalayj2127 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this video

  • @Noaleh3
    @Noaleh3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh thank you so much. I feel so happy that I found you. I love you excited just yesterday they took my cast off and I know you will be my therapy. I love it. I already practiced audio exercise. I’m so stiff, but I know that drop by drop create a movement.
    🙏🙏🙏

  • @marisavongerard1382
    @marisavongerard1382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These exercises are so helpful and although they are gentle they have improved my wrist flexion - in both wrists. I broke both my wrists playing tennis 5 months ago so I don't have a "good" hand to help with the exercises but can manage these ones. Thanks Michelle!

  • @naomifenton2159
    @naomifenton2159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much. Your physio exercises for my wrist have been great I broke my wrist just before Xmas had it in a cast for 5 weeks now in a splint

  • @emmalotriet2904
    @emmalotriet2904 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. This is something I can actually do and I find it very helpful.

  • @karmamrak
    @karmamrak 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grateful! These helped with immediate overnight issue! 3-5 really did the trick!

  • @thabsmathabs2189
    @thabsmathabs2189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video has been great, helpful indeed. Thanks

  • @bwilly6068
    @bwilly6068 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the better self rehab videos, worth watching and good techniques

  • @janestewart7196
    @janestewart7196 ปีที่แล้ว

    first week at work after the removal of my cast - Colles fracture or as some of my medical friends call it the Dinner Fork break and am finding your videos so useful. Will update at the end of the week 😃... Thank you VHC

  • @maryadams1854
    @maryadams1854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m 4 weeks out from my surgery and have a appointment tomorrow and will start P/T. These are very helpful!

  • @user-by4lg5dr8z
    @user-by4lg5dr8z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very helpful, all of them. The injured wrist felt particularly good after exercise no.5.

  • @alisonalison1
    @alisonalison1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Straight to the exercises needed. Thank you!

  • @user-ic4rz6kn1b
    @user-ic4rz6kn1b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THANK YOU! I cant go to PT so doing this at home helps me alot! you are very instructive!!

  • @FrancesCrean-oi2kc
    @FrancesCrean-oi2kc ปีที่แล้ว

    The slow movements and gentle massage works for me. Thank you

  • @victorianabondoc1962
    @victorianabondoc1962 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your video on exercises on fractured wrist.i really like the arm exercises

  • @lindaphillips2153
    @lindaphillips2153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Able to do some exercise but my fingers are still very swollen. I will keep up and do this daily. Glad I found your video.

  • @SANATAN19036
    @SANATAN19036 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tonnes of thanks ... these movements have helped me a lot

  • @naomifenton2159
    @naomifenton2159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are really helping as I had broken my wrist

  • @daadyunes5878
    @daadyunes5878 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful wrist flexion exercises! Thank you very much! 🙏

  • @naomifenton2159
    @naomifenton2159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for showing the wrist exercises they are really helping me just had my cast removed on Wednesday
    💕💕

  • @niranjanpatra7432
    @niranjanpatra7432 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very important and useful exercises I'm practising daily by the help of your youtube channels. Thanks mam

  • @mariaangelicasantibanez2707
    @mariaangelicasantibanez2707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much. This exercise help me a lot. God bles you.

  • @biotreksailing
    @biotreksailing ปีที่แล้ว

    Last exercise was best for me! Recovering from sprain and dislocated pinky. It is a long process! Love your channel.

  • @margarettee1380
    @margarettee1380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this. Best 4 and 5. I'd reached a plateau. Now back to hoping for 100% healing. Thank you. 😁😀😃😁😄

  • @johncraig4661
    @johncraig4661 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is really good! I could feel a difference in a very short period of time.. my tendons stopped clicking, and I could feel the blood flow. I was an interpreter for the deaf and started to get carpet tunnel, and a nurse told me to do the traction on my fingers, and my pain and discomfort went away. She called it decompression. Wow, what an Angel to share these gifts with others

  • @kristinachan8750
    @kristinachan8750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The isolated wrist flexion really help me a lot. Because it was hard to flex those wrist inward, don't know how to do it. So by placing the arm like you did in the video, it really worked! Thank you so much for explaining it so thoughtful~

  • @deliabottoms285
    @deliabottoms285 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are very helpful and I have added this video to my playlist. My radius bone was cracked rather than broken, so no surgery was needed. But I still required a cast. I just had it removed yesterday, and was given a soft small brace which is really more of a reminder than an actual support so that I won't lift anything heavy using my right hand or at least another two weeks. Then I will start PT.
    But I felt a stiffness was not comfortable . These gentle stretches have been very helpful with removing the stiffness. I am using them along with another series of exercises for the fingers called the six pack. Thank you for this demo!

  • @rosemarytranquilli5784
    @rosemarytranquilli5784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m 70 years old and you helped me more than my physical therapy. Especially when we follow you and you count with us for the entire ten which you do in some of your videos. I love all your videos and stopped PT and used you instead (you have all the sales excercises. Thank you

  • @DoMathswithDurkio
    @DoMathswithDurkio ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. just reached 7 week and 1 day after k9 left wrist surgery and it is 4 days after removing the wires. And those exercises really helped me all of them since I need mobility in all. Thank you.

  • @Nath4200
    @Nath4200 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! I broke my wrist over a year ago and knew I needed to do some more excercises especially since I'm back on the mountain bike and its still not very strong nor flexible.
    I have noticably more flexion after one, yes ONE run through this video. A little painful at the time but feels great after.
    Thank you so much!

  • @savithirisubramanian5325
    @savithirisubramanian5325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot, I'm on my week 6 after wrist surgery, with stiffness and pain. By doing these exercises, I got relief from pain and hand feels great. Thanks so much 🙏🙏

  • @anucarlsson2867
    @anucarlsson2867 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much, I have been plasterless 12 days now and struggling with mu wrest issues. It was helpful.

  • @MrJohnbis
    @MrJohnbis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you very much from Greece.

  • @Noaleh3
    @Noaleh3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your warm up exercise it’s feels so good and the rest was Moto Island but I know I am in right path .
    Thank you so much, you’re amazing 🙏🙏🙏

  • @adamarismoreno7323
    @adamarismoreno7323 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had forearm surgery and need wrist and hand strengthening your exercises are helping. Thank you

  • @mdanwarhossain5341
    @mdanwarhossain5341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are some of my favorite!

  • @marcogalmuzzi2730
    @marcogalmuzzi2730 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grazie per il video🙏e complimenti per la spiegazione e la simpatia🔝

  • @bettyburgess7482
    @bettyburgess7482 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much great moves the last one really helped

  • @vidhya1773
    @vidhya1773 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Currently under recuperation after wrist fracture and finding this video very useful.. thanks a lot ❤

  • @inderjitsingh4922
    @inderjitsingh4922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi
    I found these exercises very useful specially the last one which gives proper movement to wrist.

  • @cian4468
    @cian4468 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In addition to some great teaching and exercises, I also liked your choice in clothing - a basic black top, non-distracting, and allowed me to focus on the exercises you were teaching. Very professional and added to my learning. Thank you again.

  • @rlksherbhe
    @rlksherbhe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Virtual Hand Care i just have recently compound fracture broke my radius distal,ulna and dislocate elbow its been a month i have plate on my forearm and my elbow. .i am on therapy 3 times week i found your video very helpful I have stiffness on fingers every morning or in the middle of the night.

  • @LandysJair
    @LandysJair ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much, Michelle. Love from Venezuela

  • @MartyPearson-jq9qe
    @MartyPearson-jq9qe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am so thankful you founded Virtual Hand Care and that I found this channel following my wrist fracture in October 2022! These have helped me so much! I stopped doing them for a while and it seemed like my wrists (both were injured but only one was broken) seemed to be getting stiff and/or my progress stopped. I knew I had to start doing these exercises again - and they continue to be very helpful!

    • @VirtualHandCare
      @VirtualHandCare  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm so glad they are helpful! Your body is definitely telling you it's not time to be done. 👍

  • @nataliegutierrez665
    @nataliegutierrez665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much! All of these exercises are great, just got my cast off 3 days ago :)

  • @aldomoreno6890
    @aldomoreno6890 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much for this video

  • @debbiedennes9948
    @debbiedennes9948 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am really pleased to find these exercises after breaking my right wrist 4 weeks ago then tripping and breaking my left wrist a week ago my doctor decided to cut off my right plaster leaving my right wrist very tight, sore and vulnerable..I'm a yoga teacher so feeling panicked at such a stiff wrist .
    I will be practising these exercises and already feel more confident .

  • @user-js4mq3wl8l
    @user-js4mq3wl8l 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had my cast off my wrist break yesterday, I am looking forward to trying your exercises as it is my main hand, I have such a frustration in not being able to do the simplest things.

  • @lauravandenbosch
    @lauravandenbosch ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks this is wonderful. you. have helped me a lot

  • @Noises
    @Noises 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just had my cast off today but I am no stranger to rehabilitation after injury, and I know from experience that starting early improves and speeds results overall. (Within reason, not looking to run a marathon on day one.) Just a few of your videos have been super beneficial. I had a fairly short cast with good finger motion, but the wrist is stiff as a board and being able to massage and incrementally stretch the wrist has been very helpful, I can see the results already. Heat and massage, never would have thought of their benefit yesterday when the cast was still on but they've made all the difference today. Thanks so much. The muscles and tendons in the back of my hand can't thank you enough.

  • @maryp8756
    @maryp8756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thankyou this has really helped push more flexión after fracture and orif, especially exercises 4-5 I hadn't been doing really helped loosen up the flexors and carpals ❤

  • @subash32118
    @subash32118 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOUR VEDIO IMPRESSED ME A LOT AND AS RECENTLY 2MONTHS BACK I MET WITH AN ACCIDENT AND GOT LEFT ARM WRIST FRACTURED,BUT THANK GOD YOUR VEDIO HELPS ME A LOT GOD BLESS YOU

  • @rajahuja7663
    @rajahuja7663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks it is very helpful

  • @Jeff-lr1by
    @Jeff-lr1by 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard a snap when I was taking out my motorbike on my right hand last November followed up by my left hand on this year January. I took CT scans as per my doc and everything was fine. My right hand was in a cast for a month which was taken out.
    I am still under bearable pain in both wrists although its reduced over time now.
    I just started doing the exercises in your video. Pray to god it fixes my wrist issues! Thank you for this!

  • @sueargue8047
    @sueargue8047 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are wonderful….Thank you

  • @karenrussell8704
    @karenrussell8704 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm 9 days out of surgery for a plate in my broken wrist. The hospital (UK) took my cast off yesterday and gave me a support sleeve and a page of exercises. I tried to do the exercises today, but can't manage any of them because they all involve stretching the fingers, which is too painful. I came across this channel, and the exercises on here are so much more helpful. It helps to have someone explaining how to do them properly as you go along. Thank you so much.

  • @jviner6844
    @jviner6844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi ,using your exercises to complement the physio at hospital .Broke Radius and wrist just over two months ago , can see improvement . Thank you

  • @MrBaleega
    @MrBaleega 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful 👌 Thank you

  • @clairefisher6503
    @clairefisher6503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic helps with watching as well 👍

  • @naeemazehra9415
    @naeemazehra9415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks God these excercises are great. Easy to do the results are very good.👍🌷
    Excellent.

  • @kerrydonovan8345
    @kerrydonovan8345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m so grateful I found you! 3 weeks and doing so much better

    • @VirtualHandCare
      @VirtualHandCare  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So happy to hear this! Keep it up 👍

  • @slwright555
    @slwright555 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just had my cast removed after 6 weeks- fractured radius. You videos are very helpful! I was timid to move due to swelling- your encouragement helped as well as your pacing to do exercises with you. Thank you!
    I am a cellist- vety keen to get back to making music!

  • @farzanakhan3559
    @farzanakhan3559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your exercises are much better then my hand therapist thank you so much

  • @rickys9357
    @rickys9357 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've broken both wrists from a motorcycle accident and had surgery on both my wrists are full of metal and very stiff I appreciate your videos and I will keep trying your exercises and hope for the best! Thanks

  • @normadevilbiss9522
    @normadevilbiss9522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! Thank u!

  • @kirkcooper2397
    @kirkcooper2397 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm finding all these exercises very helpful. Thanks so much for the videos!

  • @mariag2299
    @mariag2299 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just came out of my cast today, had broke my ulnar n my radius, thank you for sharing this video was very helpful❤

  • @buketbilgic502
    @buketbilgic502 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a broken distal radius fraction in multiple fractions. I had a cast on for 7 weeks. It's been three days since I started doing these exercises. all five exercises helped me a lot, especially the one with the marker in hand was great. I also love finishing off with pulling movement because it opens some space. Thank you

  • @dawlatwahby9923
    @dawlatwahby9923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just removed my cast today and really found this video helpful, thank you!

  • @rebeccavancleave5564
    @rebeccavancleave5564 ปีที่แล้ว

    All great exercises, my fingers and wrist are really stiff in the mornings. This really helps.

  • @tourtoday4045
    @tourtoday4045 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks For Exercise Good Advice.

  • @HealthCoach-TaiChiGung
    @HealthCoach-TaiChiGung ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for providing these, they are so helpful. I will let you know how it works. 😊

  • @2320breakem
    @2320breakem ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!
    All the exercises were great. Even when you said don't pull to hard on the last stretch it was exactly when I was pulling to hard. Good cautionary note.
    Thanks for the intel🤙