Levi Clay Vlog #8 - A432hz vs 440hz Tuning Bullshit

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  • @ad-ross
    @ad-ross 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DISAGREE. You're simply accusing the experimenters of creating plates that are tuned to 432hz. You're creating a conspiracy within itself. There are dozens of experiments done where 432hz shows a harmonious resonation within water. This is sound metaphysics in a microcosmic scale. You seem to just need to do a little more research. Start with Dr. Masaru Emoto. I don't blame you for being skeptical, as you should be, however we're dealing with a true science of sound. This of course will make no difference if you're playing heavy metal. Distorted guitars are meant to create chaos in the mind. That's what makes it "So cool Man!" This isn't some conspiracy theory on the same level as Alex Jones, he isn't "Woke" at all. He's just an Aquarius who enjoys going against the grain. This is real science and if you don't believe it, you're just not ready.

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Did you bother watching the video? I literally talk about Emoto in it. Do not refer to him as a doctor. He was not a qualified doctor. He called himself one to give himself credibility. He was a pseudoscientific hack, widely discredited by the scientific community at large. He made a product which he sold. He’s an embarrassment to the word science.
      It doesn’t surprise me that you chose to take him seriously though.
      As for the plates, disagree all you want. It doesn’t make me any less right.
      Stop approaching things with a cognitive bias.

    • @ad-ross
      @ad-ross 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeviClay Are you denying the fact that sound waves can have an impact on the body such as creating serotonin, releving stress, and even shattering bacteria? Have you heard of someone named Raymond Rife?

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, I’m not denying anything. You have not met your burden of proof. You have made a claim. There is nothing for me to deny.
      You danced over the fact that Emoto wasn’t a doctor though... why would you do that?
      You don’t get to make outlandish claims and use a fraudster as a source and then be taken seriously when you desperately look for another.
      Show me some PEER REVIEWED science

    • @ad-ross
      @ad-ross 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeviClay Oh Emoto didn't go through the gauntlet of medical school therefor he must be a "fraudster" right? We're talking about the science of sound therapy which is a subject you seem to be new to. A real scientist undeniably would be Nikola Tesla, "If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think terms of energy, FREQUENCY, and vibration." News flash, he did not go to "Medical School"
      Here is some proof: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24460405 *"adapted music" = (excerpt from report) "This "Mozart effect" can be intensified by playing the music composition slightly decelerated (as practiced in the days of Mozart). Furthermore, the instruments are tuned to the old French pitch of 432 Hz which corresponds to the harmonic ratio of natural body rhythms..."
      I don't blame you for being skeptical, you just have more research to do.

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He’s a fraudster because he was not a doctor... and yet he portrayed himself as one. He did it to mislead people. And it worked. You are citing him as though he had any knowledge on the subject... when in reality he was even less scientific than homeopathy.
      By any definition, he was a fraudster.

  • @MilosJanic52
    @MilosJanic52 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    People are delusional. It's just their mind playing tricks with them. Going from 440hz to 432hz ofc it will sound "smoother", "relaxed", but try listening 432hz for a few hours, then go for example to 426hz you will get the same sensation, then 432hz will sound wrong.
    Anyway, even in one note A, 432 is not the only frequency, there are hundred of frequencies in just one second of a song. Mixing all the instruments, percussion atc will undoubtedly get both 432 and 440 in one song.
    But, it's their life, if they really want to avoid 440hz, i suggest you get a notch filter and eq that fucked out. Than your DNA could heal properly and you can resonate with the aliens.

    • @phenix8514
      @phenix8514 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This, its like people don't grasp the thought that the song bloody obviously won't only be consisting of a 432hz sound only. Its just like taking a melody and moving it through the scale, of course it'll sound different every time.

  • @WhaleWTFMetal
    @WhaleWTFMetal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've just read about the "Pitch inflation" yesterday ! So your video come in the best time for me ;-).
    In my opinion, classical music "Pitch inflation" (the fact that they pitched up and up for years to try and sound brighter) is very similar to the actual phenomenon of 7-8-9 drop tuned guitars.
    You might not like it, but at least it's shaking things up and brings creativity :-).
    Thanks for this really Good video.

  • @arricat5e311
    @arricat5e311 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn those Nazis trying to make as more docile and aggressive at the same time.

  • @WarrenSenders
    @WarrenSenders 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yep. I can't stand this 432 woo-woo. What an embarrassment to the profession.

  • @DarkShroom
    @DarkShroom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent talk dude, this should have more views... if i remember i'll link people

  • @ArranDutt
    @ArranDutt 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Levi. Always found the whole 432Hz a bit silly.

  • @LukasVanSiegmund
    @LukasVanSiegmund 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this Cast! In fact if you tune to Eb the root is 440Hz

  • @Galactu5
    @Galactu5 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great point! Stay away from the websites with "truth" in the title yeah. So TRUE! haha
    Keep up the great work!

  • @AJLeadbetter
    @AJLeadbetter 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff, mate!

  • @rodolfoamaralguitar
    @rodolfoamaralguitar 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always your channel has intelligent discussions! I know this is not about the topic of this video, but I would like to see a video with your opinion about the pros and cons of the EADGCF tuning, your opinion is very relevant because you´ve transcribed tons of materials in standard.

  • @vahnrondel
    @vahnrondel 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for this!!!

  • @josephgoudreau7425
    @josephgoudreau7425 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Call out all the bullshit Levi!

  • @JasonSpell
    @JasonSpell 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My take:
    432 sounds "unique" and "different" because it is. It's different than the standard of the last 80 years = 440. So anyone looking for that easy "unique" sound, instead of honing in on a unique way of approaching music, one can simply tune down 8 hertz. Easy, right?
    Just like there is no magic pill to lose weight and get in shape, there is no magic pill to being a unique musician.

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      miss ya bud

  • @thejcquartet6943
    @thejcquartet6943 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny that if you walk towards a performing musician tuned to 440 the music will be pitched higher than 440. And lower if you walk away. If you run, all sorts of crazy things happen. And I don't even want to mention bikes...

  • @ToshikiShibata
    @ToshikiShibata 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid again :) Didn't though you will talk about Masaru Emoto dude! Yes he is always talking something that "sounds" true all the time using images and fast forward videos to sell his water products. Japanese are easy to get tricked by these placebo stuffs specially on water, because of our history and culture background :/ anyway I'm always tuned in 440Hz never thought about those 432hz things. Tune then play. That's all what I can do :P

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Toshiki Shibata I'm glad someone got the reference - I was wondering if I watched all these documentaries on him and memorized it so I could bring it up in passing was going to be a complete waste of effort haha

  • @mkguitarhero
    @mkguitarhero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't believe in all that spirit bs but I can tell you 432 is more in harmony with your voice when singing

    • @paketbaand1523
      @paketbaand1523 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you actually sing "in 440hz" it bet it'll sound more harmonious with 440hz music. But go ahead, try it.

    • @harambo88
      @harambo88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paketbaand1523 so savage:D

  • @majav15mg
    @majav15mg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Levi, have you tried 420 hz? 🌿

    • @majav15mg
      @majav15mg ปีที่แล้ว

      @Elias Yildiz I hadn’t even tried cannabis when I made this comment! Haha

  • @thesunabsolute
    @thesunabsolute 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff here, Levi. Scientific inquiry needs to be talked about more in the music community. There is nothing worse than the pseudo scientific bullshit that permeates all corners of the internet.

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Elliot Grey the angle that I completely forgot to mention (problem of lack of script) is that noone plays an instrument with perfect intonation. If I tune to A 432 - unless I have true temperament frets.... I'm going to be out of tune just a few frets higher - so the idea that a few hz difference is a big deal is killed right there - if it's that sensitive - we never achieve it.
      Just talk to a violin player or singer about intonation - it's not a science - it's personal and it will change day to day - whatever tuning reference you're using - we're always out a few cents no matter what
      #bullshit

  • @silverstone3228
    @silverstone3228 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    levi ..lick library dont fuckin listen to requests ,,,can u please make a romeo licks dvd of ur own
    am sure it gonna kick ass

  • @Scias
    @Scias 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my god don't get me started man, I used to work in realfoods for 5 years so you can imagine the crackpots I know from that place. One of them is far, far older than me and is completely taken with all this fucking bullshit. I tried to explain it to him but he wasn't having any of it. Yet another reason 432 is bullshit is because it assumes that we tune pythagorean which we don't with the exception of fretted instruments. So even if it was true, as soon as you move away from the note A, you are no longer mathematically resonating anyway lol. I graphed a comparison i.imgur.com/WevcME1.jpg spanning a single octave of C to C, between pythagorean and the wobbly true temperament (shown in green) that we actually use back when I was writing about musical history not even this conspiracy bullshit.

  • @Infighter_
    @Infighter_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you shed some light are chromatic 1234 exercises really THAT beneficial that you have to do them or you will never have great hand coordination or picking? I just think 1234 is waste of time you never see it in real music that I listen(might be ignorant on that one and somebody uses 1234, idk)

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Infighter That's a good subject, and one that's hard to be accurate on, no matter what I say it will come down to "how I feel" rather than somethign objective with evidence. I'd need to test it across 50 students over 10 years to be certain.
      My gut feeling though is that they're initially great exercises for building dexterity and synchronization skills in both hands - as you progress though there are smarter ways of doing that more relevant to you as a player so you should move on to those. Being told to do them over and over is the sign of a teacher who really doesn't have anything more creative for you to do - ESPECIALLY in 2016!

    • @Infighter_
      @Infighter_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Levi Clay They sure helped me when I first started, but after a while I focused more on scalar exercises because at least I can sometimes use them and they are way more musical. I just read that Vai in his famous 10hr workout did them and Guthrie mentions in his book, but then I found video about Alt. Picking that he did on Lick Library and he states that it's useless, and I am just lost

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Infighter I believe that you play what you practice - if you spent 10 years playing nothing but 4nps chromatic exercises and then someone asks you to solo.... what are you going to play? Would you have the chops to play a Paul Gilbert solo?
      That's why I don't practice scales up and down - what benefit is there? You'll be great at playing the scale ascending fast... but I never want to do that when I'm improvising you know?
      There are just better ways to work on your technique if you ask me. That's opinion, but I do think it's a fact that practicing something gets you good at that thing. So your left hand dexterity will be reasonable doing that and your inside picking will be strong. Great - because THAT's what music is haha

    • @Infighter_
      @Infighter_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Levi Clay I agree, and I didn't want to imply that practicing scales just up and down, but in melodic sequences, improvising etc. And I realize that what worked for Steve Vai may not work for me as well, so it's pretty interesting topic.
      And it seems I need to look into another teacher too, lol

  • @ASKR303
    @ASKR303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Infra base. Research that then tell me certain frequencies do not change emotions etc

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      certain frequencies do not change emotions etc
      there you go

    • @ASKR303
      @ASKR303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeviClay yeas they do . i suggest you research infra bass. they saturate computer games and films with it. its a scientific fact that low end frequency affects emotions . did you know its also a scientific fact that emotions also affect water molecules

    • @ASKR303
      @ASKR303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeviClay theres a reason the scientific world calls infra sound the fear freqency

    • @ASKR303
      @ASKR303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeviClay th-cam.com/video/ZXCZ3OyklrE/w-d-xo.html

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ASKR303 right, so what does this have to do with what’s being discussed here… which is AUDIBLE sound. And 8hz of difference?

  • @martinr7728
    @martinr7728 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm new to this channel and you did make some good points, but it's a bad idea to turn down conspiracy theories 100% of the time; sometimes they can turn out to be true. Also, I doubt a placebo effect (homeopathy) can get rid of my allergies :P or get rid of an irritated throat when you have a cough.

  • @robchio86
    @robchio86 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hmmmm definitly you belive earth is .........?

  • @Greg-bp4rs
    @Greg-bp4rs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i put it simply as this: imagine a washing machine sound pitch at 432 and 440.. which is easier an your ear?.. i think that conspiracy theorist are not right but on a personal level i feel much more stimulated by a sound at 440 than a sound at 432... and this is a bad thing.. because it's true that we work harder at 440 but it leads to be worn out at a certain point and then you'll have an unbalanced health issue: you worked to hard an you fall sick because of the exhaustion that your body and mind undergoes. It's the same thing when you get a cold: You stand in a too cold environment too much and eventually you'll get a cold and your body cannot function anymore in an efficent manner. And simply associate the technological, sociological, etc. developments made since the 1950's.. we did more in 70 years than we did in 4 millennia. Same thing applies to world population. But what else came with it? An extremely high rate of psychological issues.. and what is a psychological issue if not an unbalanced brain/brain-body system?? I am not saying that it is all because of frequency but i think that frequency change around the world had a little tiny role in it. We are litterally bombarded by 440hz frequencies..
    I am agreeing that classical music is not tuned in 432, that it is not the frequency of the universe but i will say this: since i started listening to 432hz sounds i control much much much more my anger management issue than ever before. Again, this is my personal experience and i don't say that this applies to everyone

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're just wrong though. We are not "bombarded by 440hz frequencies". 440hz is a specific frequency. We call it "A" but music and sound isn't just ONE frequency. It's LOTS of different frequencies. A doesn't have a color, it only has a context. A played against a G# will make you feel a different way than A played against an F.
      And this is before you talk about things like temperament. We operate in a 12TET system, but even then, instruments like the guitar aren't actually accurately intonated to 12TET all over the neck. So relationships between notes aren't consistent.
      You've got a lot of "I feel", and "I think" but you never back it up with any knowledge of the subject. I would put money on the fact that if I sat down with you and had music tuned to different reference pitches, you would not be able to tell them apart, just that some are lower or higher than each other. And, just as with everyone else, you will find tuning lower sounds more laid back. So you claim to love 432... guess what... you'll love 424 even more.

    • @Greg-bp4rs
      @Greg-bp4rs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LeviClay no. i played the piano for many years and trust me I can tell you immediately which is which. you're right about that's only the A but the impact on my brain its just different. i use a lot of feel and think because its my personal opinion. i don't say that what I'm saying applies for everyone or anyone else.. and you're right.. there are people that can't tell you the difference. for me when I hear a 440hz a tuned song I sing all the words along.. in 432hz a tuned I simply can't (it relaxes me in opposition to 440hz which excites me)

    • @Greg-bp4rs
      @Greg-bp4rs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      an by saying that i don't mean that one is bad and one is good, its just that me myself I listen to 440 when i want to be upbeat and 432 when I want to relax..

    • @Greg-bp4rs
      @Greg-bp4rs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      as a matter of fact i try to research as much as possible and that's why I watched your video. information is everything

    • @Greg-bp4rs
      @Greg-bp4rs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but that said i find the that the time frame of the international standard setting and the economical boom, the technological innovations and the rise in demography quite fascinating.. mine are only speculations.. i have no actual fact to back my suppositions. just a gut feeling

  • @FF-zy3bu
    @FF-zy3bu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Disagree too 432 sounds so much better plus never her of a conspiracy around 440 not sure im smelling what your selling you look like a musician but for your argument.... 🤔

  • @FF-zy3bu
    @FF-zy3bu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wooow stop watching infowars
    Way of topic... 😂🤣😂

  • @boroborable
    @boroborable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    mate I get what you are saying but you are ignorant about what frequency is. this whole universe made of frequencies not only sound but matter, energy, light etc, everything vibrates on its own.
    and therefor thinking universe doesn't have natural frequencies or it just not happen to affect our biology is simply ignorant
    we live on earth, earth is a massive matter orbits the sun, matter vibrates and have their own frequencies. we are not some aliens happen to be living on alien planet. everything on this planet bound to earths frequency and born with it.
    therefor earth must have its own frequency and its just must be important. now, 'but is it 440hz then?' not likely
    I'm not saying, 432hz is way to go. Before that claim, we have to learn more about its nature scientifically. Just saying, there are cosmic rules, we just happen to ignore it because we just don't know how to utilize it yet.

  • @philliptaylor8861
    @philliptaylor8861 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want you understand the Universe study Frequency and Vibration. 432 is a different color...And as an artist ...I look at everthing...432...is a beautiful color.

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You seem to just be saying words? Not really refuting anything I've pointed out here :/

    • @zookkkk
      @zookkkk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      its a sound i think

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timmbrockmann959 awesome... so A sounds better... what about Bb? perfect elegant numbers there?
      you're a clown

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timmbrockmann959 why are you ignoring my question? Oh that's right... because you're an idiot.
      If A is tuned to 432... and is "more elegant", what's Bb? 457.69 - yeah man... elegant as shit! What about the other way? G#? oh that's 407.75... again, explain the elegance.
      If you can't, I'll go easy and round them to 458 and 408. Find the elegance.
      And even if you can (you can't)... it doesn't matter... because you've had to fudge the numbers to make them work.
      Also, I'd like you to expand on our "time system" - a year and a day are fixed measurements (despite the fact we also round a year off hence leap years and leap seconds). But hours in a day are completely arbitrary. There could be 100 "hours" in a day. We invented the hour... dummy.
      So yes, every need to attack you. You're spouting off utter nonsense and ignoring when you're presented with anything that highlights how stupid you sound.

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timmbrockmann959 but everything you listed at the end there shows your stupidity does it not? Because you're doing it again. It all boils down to "because patterns... and that must mean something" - do you know how well the decimal base 10 system works? And how many patterns there are in that? 1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 20, 25, 50, 100 are all factors of 100! wow! Do you need me to sit down and tell you how many ways we can break 100 down?
      And check this out... water FREEZES at 0c and BOILS at 100c! WOAH!!! Bow down before the numbers.
      Numbers themselves are a human construct. They are abstract. They are by very nature arbitrary. We didn't CHOOSE base 60, it's just what people were using and so went with it. It's the reason some people use Fahrenheit or miles too. It's the way it was always done and if you bend over backwards you'll find a reason to justify it. Of course, you will. Listen to yourself. I'm talking in facts, you're talking about irrelevant patterns that you cannot demonstrate matter.
      Why does A matter so much to you? what if I can find a note in 440 that is just as "magic"... what then?
      Look, you said it yourself. "432 has no real sense over the whole scale", and therefore the points I made in this video are 100% valid.

  • @kendellforest5641
    @kendellforest5641 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You wrong in so many ways and trying to discourage the masses stop with the nonsense.Thanks if your going to put a video out make sure you truly know your knowledge.

  • @TheWheeliebug
    @TheWheeliebug 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I tune 'til it sounds right, then I play. Always worked for me. Can't be doing with a scientific approach. If it sounds right, it is right. Simple as that.

    • @zookkkk
      @zookkkk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      itll make it a lot more difficult for others
      to play with you

  • @philliptaylor8861
    @philliptaylor8861 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sacred Geometry. ....

  • @philliptaylor8861
    @philliptaylor8861 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sacred Geometry. ....