Will Tuning To 432Hz Make Your Music Better?

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  • Ever heard of the idea that 432Hz can make your music more in tune with the universe? Seems crazy but today we're going to look into it.
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  • @samuraiguitarist
    @samuraiguitarist  7 ปีที่แล้ว +433

    Sorry guys, it was a fluke not a conspiracy
    imgur.com/vHQAlAl
    (Check out Adam's video here th-cam.com/video/EKTZ151yLnk/w-d-xo.html)

    • @AgentMurphy286
      @AgentMurphy286 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So no plans for a crossover then?

    • @luispereztasso
      @luispereztasso 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      samuraiguitarist do a vídeo together of "how to start composing music. Do I need to use theory?"

    • @JulianDoe
      @JulianDoe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought that there's a universal conjunction between you and Adam!!! ahahaha btw, it's great to have different opinions on the same subject

    • @SladeBallard
      @SladeBallard 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's so weird, I always felt like your two channels have this thing in common, the relaxed "let's discuss music deeply" feel to it, so it's great seeing that you know each other, I hope you collaborate with him, you're both amazing musicians!

    • @KarstenJohansson
      @KarstenJohansson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      When two people are independently in sync with each other, does it produce a natural harmonic?

  • @JanSzedlak
    @JanSzedlak 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1512

    HELP I accidentally tuned my guitar to 666hz and after couple chords satan came to my room and want my kidney??? what to do now?? try different tuning??

    • @noriakikakyoin4430
      @noriakikakyoin4430 7 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      Jan Szedlak tune your guitar to 777hz and God will save you.

    • @zacharybrewer5650
      @zacharybrewer5650 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Instead pledge your eternal soul and forever praise our true dark lord Lucifer, for infinite power forever. Or something like that

    • @groverjuicy
      @groverjuicy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Jan Szedlak Change to 420 and he'll chill out...

    • @stevehudson6695
      @stevehudson6695 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I tune my guitar to 420 Hz and now i can only play Reggae and Grateful dead tunes?

    • @inUR2teeth
      @inUR2teeth 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jan Szedlak invite him to marshmallows grill party and give him plenty of women'milk with honey. ...

  • @jasonm456
    @jasonm456 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1445

    everyone knows the chillest tuning is 420Hz

  • @jackb4164
    @jackb4164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    When your v neck locks like a u neck you know it’s half washed

    • @kevinplayscello_
      @kevinplayscello_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not bad kid

    • @kevinplayscello_
      @kevinplayscello_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      When your Flying V is looking like a walking U you know it’s half washed

    • @tripleforcium8003
      @tripleforcium8003 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      DOWNY

    • @Word_Wise_Woman
      @Word_Wise_Woman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like he needs some Woolite... or wait was it downy🤔 lol 😂

    • @t42press15
      @t42press15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey lying samurai guitarists dont have time to shop or order t shirts from amazon !

  • @10HW
    @10HW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I didn't believe in this either until I started weeping tears of unbounded joy when my friend tuned the keyboard in 432hertz during a violent but wonderful mushroom trip :s

    • @jaden_bricker
      @jaden_bricker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Something tells me that was just the mushrooms

    • @tommbrowne
      @tommbrowne 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mushroom synchronicity... mmmmmmm

    • @jacobstockley
      @jacobstockley 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The mushrooms like 432hz

  • @tritonusseitan6601
    @tritonusseitan6601 7 ปีที่แล้ว +477

    I'm so used to tuning to 440, that the 432 sounded out of tune and horible.

    • @tritonusseitan6601
      @tritonusseitan6601 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Then again, 448 sounded super perky and chirpy.

    • @ShouldBePracticing
      @ShouldBePracticing 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      On the first one the 440 sounded out of tune to me because of the 448 before it

    • @Crunchifyable2
      @Crunchifyable2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I liked the lower tunings for that reason...seems like back in the day nobody tuned to exactly 440 and you had more variation.
      The lower tunings were sweeter.

    • @spotable2
      @spotable2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It did to me for about a min, but then I really warmed to it.

    • @juangarcera2544
      @juangarcera2544 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wash your ears or ask for brain transplant.

  • @themennissvids
    @themennissvids 7 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    you just had a Newton and Leibniz moment with Adam Neeley. Hah.

    • @FossilFishy
      @FossilFishy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Calculus history joke! I'm pretty sure you win *all* the geek points. Cheers!

    • @corrda1993
      @corrda1993 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe it was a secret collaboration.

    • @th3gr81
      @th3gr81 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They should collaborate on a video/jam session.

  • @gnarman1358
    @gnarman1358 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I've always tuned my guitars at 432hz just because I was inspired to start playing by Dimebag and that's what he used so I did the same and stuck with it

    • @MatthewJury
      @MatthewJury 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GnarMan 135 he uses 425hz, quarter step down

    • @othala7540
      @othala7540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      but down tuning is not persee 432HZ or 415HZ

  • @jamesmills7255
    @jamesmills7255 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Definitely the best examination of this subject I have so far seen. Having pitch shifted a few of my favourite songs down to A=432Hz a while ago, to see how they sound compared with the original tuning, I must admit I do prefer some of them at the altered frequencies. However, this is because the slightly lower pitch can make the music sound less harsh on the ear and have a nicer tonality. Or, as you mentioned, perhaps there is just a placebo effect.

    • @RicardoAldana1988
      @RicardoAldana1988 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would recomended to you to seek what your ear feel the most pleasant! I would suggest 430 with a slightly turn up intonation to 431 hz aprox by ear as equal modern temperament! it´s all in the ear and 432 it´s a good mathematical reference and startpoint

    • @killerrosebudiscool
      @killerrosebudiscool 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd say it sounds a little darker of a tone.
      For example, horror movies should definitely use 432 hz tuning because it sounds to me like a natural minor

    • @castle6660
      @castle6660 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately...lying about the test conditions mean this experiment is null and void. This wasn't even an experiment. Nothing was proven.. nothing was disproven.

    • @veggimellom1872
      @veggimellom1872 ปีที่แล้ว

      i agree. The higher tuning is more harsh for the ears. In a way that will tell us that the lower is more healing ^^ because of the straining on the ears with the higher. When we get old some of us looses the highest frequencies.

  • @johnwescott1500
    @johnwescott1500 7 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    Tune to 136.1 Hz. That's Om, you'll resonate with the universe!

    • @yummyjackalmeat
      @yummyjackalmeat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I feel way more connected to 60hz. I'm surrounded by electronics.

    • @RicardoAldana1988
      @RicardoAldana1988 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would suggest 430 with a slightly turn up intonation to 431 hz aprox by ear as equal modern temperament! it´s all in the ear and 432 it´s a good mathematical reference and startpoint and pretty close to the sadja tone you mentioned.. the reference tuning tone in the hindostani classical music system equivalent to a C# in this temperament.. om chanting tone sound!

    • @johnwescott1500
      @johnwescott1500 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The pic is Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart. I also comment on other guitar channels like Norman's, Anderton, Chapman, Marty, Justin etc.

    • @sohamsengupta6470
      @sohamsengupta6470 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yummyjackalmeat dude if I remember correctly thats the frequency of hum a single coil produces
      So no tuning required

    • @karelspinka3031
      @karelspinka3031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yummyjackalmeat I'm European, here the electricity frequency is 50 Hz.

  • @GoldenGunner111
    @GoldenGunner111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    Yeah dude! Drop those drums 8 Hz!

    • @makke_macro
      @makke_macro 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      drums are pretty much tuned by hz. i use hi-tom 127Hz md-tom 113hz and floor-tom 76Hz. it depends what wood their are and layers and size ect ect duh. they sound bad in down tune. Duh. okay maybe thats sarcasm but
      i wanted to share a little fact :)

    • @GoldenGunner111
      @GoldenGunner111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      c:

    • @MadMatty01
      @MadMatty01 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You make it sound like standard procedure for drummers to tune their instrument by Hz, but it's really not. Even roughly tuning by notes is somewhat uncommon. Most people just tune to a pitch where the combination of shell and head sounds good and harmonizes with the rest of the kit.

    • @1976oswald
      @1976oswald 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i work just with 432 hz now

    • @NerismaStudios
      @NerismaStudios 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thing is it's not standard procedure, but I personally like accuracy when I tune my drums. If I'm in a pinch though, I have quick-tuning methods that get my drums sounding good quickly without a lot of fuss. All it takes is knowing how the science of a drum-head works.

  • @mnfreeman
    @mnfreeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    One of the best tests is to take a tone generator and listen to A at 440 vs 432. The A tone at 432 sounds softer and a bit wider. The A at 440 sounds tighter and harsher. Don't base it on spiritual stuff, base it on what the sound physically feels and sounds like

    • @keyboardtek
      @keyboardtek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think that may be just your ears. Other than a difference in frequency, my brain does not associate those descriptive characteristics. But then I was an electronic keyboard repair tech for 38 years and listened to zillions of tones.

    • @tigersblood12212012
      @tigersblood12212012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting that you mention a wider frequency with 432hz. Probably why I struggle with my b string all the time in 440

    • @StopFear
      @StopFear 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did exactly that before having read your comment. None of what you described is true. In fact 432 sounds kind of wrong, less balanced, out of tune.

    • @tigersblood12212012
      @tigersblood12212012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StopFear I strongly beg to differ. Do.
      realize that anything that sounds different to what your ear is used to will not sound right.

  • @valorthom3509
    @valorthom3509 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I absolutely LOVED example 2. I can really dig the woodsy/homey feel to it. Cheers mate!

  • @TheCartoonCatastrophe
    @TheCartoonCatastrophe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +769

    Vsauce for guitars

    • @jonathanocampo7614
      @jonathanocampo7614 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      TheCartoonCatastrophe 10/10 would watch

    • @shiansho2716
      @shiansho2716 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      TheCartoonCatastrophe no, that's Adam Neely jaja

    • @jacintourteaga4504
      @jacintourteaga4504 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Shian sho yeah definetly Adam Neely lol

    • @zawette
      @zawette 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      he said for guitars not bass/music

    • @Jish1695
      @Jish1695 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey guitarists, Samurai here.

  • @gregorlimbach1316
    @gregorlimbach1316 7 ปีที่แล้ว +498

    Funny that Adam Neely just uploaded a video with a similar topic.
    Really like what you're doing, keep it up

    • @ideitbawx
      @ideitbawx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Gregor Limbach lol i was just about to say the same thing! Adam's given shout-outs to SamuraiGuitarist before, so I'm sure this is just great munds thinking alike lol

    • @brkfstchmp
      @brkfstchmp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I literally just watched Adams video lol

    • @meowtherainbowx4163
      @meowtherainbowx4163 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They need to collaborate. They're both quite similar, and their videos are very informative.

    • @sukitta2
      @sukitta2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Im more interested in what kind of music would come out of a colab, having their differences in mind.

    • @mikefisher84
      @mikefisher84 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This is proof that there is a conspiracy at work trying to keep 432hz down so we can't get in touch with our higher (err lower?) vibrational selves! ;)

  • @SonOfHutch
    @SonOfHutch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Been playing at 440 for decades and always struggled with singing... until i sent 432 and much easier. big difference for me myself and I.

    • @swfx
      @swfx ปีที่แล้ว +6

      same here. also makes me wonder how many great artists recorded in 432 but were tuned up by the industry. it was night and day for me. ive struggled singing for years until recently doing this

  • @kbproweb
    @kbproweb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Try going outside on a nice spring day and tune your guitar to the birds singing. I've done this about three or four times and always end up in the same range of frequencies. It has never come out in the range that would sync up with 440 but always falls in alignment, or in tune with 432. I've also done this with recorded whale sounds with the same result. I'm not totally sure what this means, but it's interesting.

    • @kairs621
      @kairs621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lmao

    • @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
      @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. Sounds of Nature herself! God definitely made the world the way it is. It's actually kind of scary the way certain types (both musician and non) get completely trigged and hostile at the idea of tuning to A-432 Scientifc Tuning. Yet tthey even use C-256 and A-432 tuning forks a the doctors office to test nerve responses and such. Again, God made things the way they are. The fact that there is such a dogmatic resistance to this is almost . . . Evil.

    • @kbproweb
      @kbproweb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've had some people resist simply because they don't want the hassle of having to deal with changing the tuning they use to create music. They call it nonsense so they don't have to deal with it. It is a hassle if you're working with other musicians, so that's understandable, but to actually get angry about it? What's that all about?

    • @keyboardtek
      @keyboardtek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you get a bird to hold an A432 pitch for you to tune to?

    • @kbproweb
      @kbproweb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@keyboardtek​That's funny, lol. I could think of several sarcastic responses, but will restrain myself.
      What you are trying to do is to get one string to harmonize with the dominant bird song. This might be difficult if you don't have a good ear, but anyone who is an experienced musician will likely understand. If you start with your guitar in 440 you will likely end up close to either 432 or 444, depending on if you tune up or down.
      What I did, in all three attempts, was detune flat, well below 440, and then tuned up one string until I felt it to be in harmony with the bird song. Each time it was in sink with 432 inside a 12 frequency range. For example, one time it came out at 420 which is in harmony with 432 and 444. You could end up at 412 or 456 or any variant of 12, but if you have the same results they will fall within those ranges. I never ended on any variant of 440. Hope that makes it clearer.

  • @korydeleon8236
    @korydeleon8236 7 ปีที่แล้ว +355

    I thought the "440" tuning sounded better for some of those compositions, and the "432" tuning sounded better for others. It just goes to show that there is very clearly no correct way to play music.

    • @rokas7
      @rokas7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      watch the whole video

    • @KingFiveHead
      @KingFiveHead 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Rokas he very obviously did

    • @korydeleon8236
      @korydeleon8236 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Rokas I did watch, hence the quotation marks around 440 and 432. I don't want to be a debaser and spoil the video for anyone.

    • @rokas7
      @rokas7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      oops, my apologies

    • @korydeleon8236
      @korydeleon8236 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rokas no harm no foul

  • @D1GItAL_CVTS
    @D1GItAL_CVTS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    432 blaze it

  • @nun6996
    @nun6996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    not trying to hop on the 'conspiracies' but to me.. going from 440 to 432 feels natural, but going from 432 to 440 sounds weird and off.. looks like 432 it is.

    • @keyboardtek
      @keyboardtek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Until you have to play with other musicians in the real world who tune to the standard A440. Then you will be the one sounding horrible.

  • @RobertWJackson
    @RobertWJackson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I tend to tune a half-step down most of the time, just because I like the string tension better and, as you mentioned, that’s where many of my favorite bands tune to. But there’s really no other reason than that. But I was thinking something sounded a little off during your demo. I had to laugh when you came clean at the end. Great video dude!

  • @WeyounVI
    @WeyounVI 7 ปีที่แล้ว +450

    Anyone who has ever hand tuned an acoustic guitar without a tuner knows its all about relative pitch, not frequency.

    • @RicardoAldana1988
      @RicardoAldana1988 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It´s called comfort zone and it has to do with the fact that we are used to some conceptions that it occurs that could it be missconceptions.. like what we hear and how we hear it! I would suggest 430 with a slightly turn up intonation to 431 hz aprox by ear as equal modern temperament! it´s all in the ear and 432 it´s a good mathematical reference and startpoint

    • @swissarmyknight4306
      @swissarmyknight4306 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Or anyone who has used a device to tune a guitar to A=432 or any other pitch. There's no magic, just slightly lower pitches.

    • @Christian-qe8hw
      @Christian-qe8hw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the same for nearly all accoustic instruments

    • @RigobertoMartinez07
      @RigobertoMartinez07 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

    • @lionessma8762
      @lionessma8762 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You don't get it.

  • @rafaelbrito9519
    @rafaelbrito9519 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Love how different the purpose of your videos are most of the time, it's what makes it unique and appealing to me.

  • @BEERFEST07
    @BEERFEST07 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always felt that tuning down slightly from 440 gives the music a warmer tone. I almost never tune my guitar at 440 unless I want to learn a song that was recorded at 440.

  • @kofi1305
    @kofi1305 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You actually proved for me that it does make a difference!

  • @bradenholmes8011
    @bradenholmes8011 7 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    To me, all the lower tunings sounded just a bit warmer. Maybe I am just hearing things though

    • @shayanmoosavi9139
      @shayanmoosavi9139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yup, your brain tricked you. As he already said it's a placebo effect.

    • @gl1tch542
      @gl1tch542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It CAN be a placebo effect, but it doesn't HAVE to be a placebo effect. Someone could really like 432 rather than 440, who knows

    • @user-zb8tq5pr4x
      @user-zb8tq5pr4x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      they do sound warmer. tuning lower usually does. but it only sounds warmer because you also heard the 440 version. 420 would sound warmer than 432, etc.

    • @VendettaMusicUK
      @VendettaMusicUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sounds warmer/better because our ears are used to hearing music in 440hz. any deviation from 440hz (higher or lower) will sound interesting... and sometimes better

    • @ghostwryteranonymous4910
      @ghostwryteranonymous4910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, you're not just hearing things. Longer (slower) wave lengths are less stressful and more relaxing to the body and brain. I personally felt that the lower tunings we're warmer and more soothing.

  • @Sonserf369
    @Sonserf369 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    The rock/metal song sounded better in the lower tuning. But that's nothing new really. Good stuff though, I like that you provided multiple examples across varying genres instead of just one like in other videos on the subject that I've seen today.

  • @samuellangley1162
    @samuellangley1162 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man! Just wanted to say, I really enjoy your videos. Ive been playing guitar for 20 years, but seems like Ive hit a plateau of sorts. When I discovered your channel, its content began to rejuvinate my urge to learn in some way. Thank you so much sir! Hope your having a great weekend.

  • @xmarkhimselfx
    @xmarkhimselfx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Exactly the video I needed. Thanks dude! 432hz was everything I have been looking for. What a sound / tuning standard

  • @grbear01
    @grbear01 7 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    You and Adam Neely's video on this are eerily similar given that they were uploaded within hours of each other.

    • @fredjones5698
      @fredjones5698 7 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      Its because of the resonation of the universe

    • @Soundtrack33VEVO
      @Soundtrack33VEVO 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sparrow Shimasu That's why same movies appear at the same time...

    • @elijahbutterfield4869
      @elijahbutterfield4869 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sparrow Shimasu
      ILLUMINATI

    • @whuforever8088
      @whuforever8088 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard this in Michael's voice

  • @conorheduvan
    @conorheduvan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Adam Neely just uploaded a similar video on this subject.

  • @4dultw1thj0b
    @4dultw1thj0b 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For me, all I'm noticing is that 432 sounds more exactly on key, while 440 is sort of between keys a little bit. There was something I always liked about songs being slightly out of tune, maybe a kind of other-worldliness.

    • @ghostwryteranonymous4910
      @ghostwryteranonymous4910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Listen to classical music like Mozart and Bach. Their music was set at 432 hertz. Very soothing and therapeutic.

  • @miladeisaei82
    @miladeisaei82 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man this video was awesome! I had no idea how good you're gonna explain and exploit the subject!Cheers!

  • @TheDarkFishbone
    @TheDarkFishbone 7 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I have never felt so betrayed in my entire life

  • @quailstudios
    @quailstudios 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Steve, I love it when you said I lied! That was really sweet. In the 60s we can find recordings by Led Zeppelin and other famous bands not tuned exactly to 440. In the 70s when sound engineers were mastering popular music in the Los Angeles area - sometimes they would speed up a recording just a little bit to raise the pitch - which also sped up the song a tiny bit - they felt that this technique helped the songs to stand out from others that were being mastered at regular tuning - whatever that was at the time.

    • @MrAnders1976
      @MrAnders1976 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Quail Studios Guitar
      Another studio trick was to record the instrumental track at 440hz. Then slow it down some 30 cents and let the singer record at this lower easier pitch and then speed up the vocal track to match the 440hz instrumental track. The effect is obvious when you now what to listen for. Madonnas 80s stuff sound manipulated this way. The 32 cents detune (432hz) from 440hz prevents early register shift for many voices. This effect was demonstrated by some famous opera singers in the 80s

  • @Beehj84
    @Beehj84 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first video of yours I've seen, and a heck of a welcome. Fascinating, conclusive, and well done all around. Subbed.

  • @RocknRollAddict666
    @RocknRollAddict666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i always find that altering my tuning can help me get out of writers block when i'm stuck with a song. Thank god for vari-speed!

  • @geoffharvard8722
    @geoffharvard8722 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In high school, our band director had us tune to A=446Hz for a brighter sound.

    • @alanthedrum
      @alanthedrum 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      English Brass Bands were tuned to a higher pitch until the 60's. Then they fell into line so they could play down to 440 and perform with others.

  • @acousticknights9654
    @acousticknights9654 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If anyone's interested in this subject, or alternate tunings, I would suggest researching scientific tuning and the reasoning behind it.
    Also, regardless of tunings, there is a problem with experiments of this precise type that seem to be flooding TH-cam. The problem is that the human ears adapt too readily to alternate tunings and which ever song is played next will either sound sharp or flat as a result of the expected measure. To truly test any merit to the 432 hz tuning, you would have to look at things completely differently. Sound amplification, wave visualizations, and how an instrument holds up to the strains of the different Hertz throughout time are just a few things to consider.
    Perceptions are subject to Placebo effects, as you mentioned. It's no wonder why you came into this experiment and left with the same biase, given the method of experimentation.
    I don't prescribe to any specific tuning, nor suggest that someone get stuck in one, but I hate the scienceless biases that everyone seems satisfied with. It's as one sided as someone offering nothing on why it's better and saying everyone should switch...which I've seen plenty of that as well. Bah, this world

    • @RicardoAldana1988
      @RicardoAldana1988 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It´s called comfort zone and it has to do with the fact that we are used to some conceptions that it occurs that could it be missconceptions.. like what we hear and how we hear it! I would suggest 430 with a slidely turn up intonation to 431 hz aprox by ear as equal modern temperament! it´s all in the ear and 432 it´s a good mathematical reference and startpoint! there's also a theory which may has to be what you reffers.. it's called Scientific Pitch Tuning or Phytagorean-Phitagoric Tuning it can differ but not much.. they're pretty all the same base with differents apreciations.. approaches and aproximations to give pretty close results too!

    • @castle6660
      @castle6660 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also to make an experiment of this kind legit.. he would have to actually play half of them in 432 and the other half in 440. Forcing people to choose between two categories.. while lying about the categories.. makes this experiment nonsense.. people were forced to choose between two...when in reality there were many different choices. This experiment was nonsensical and didn't prove nor disprove anything.

    • @tommbrowne
      @tommbrowne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good grief, stop yogurt weaving this thing. Some people like Marmite, some don't, simple; move on, get a life, enjoy

  • @brandoncalloway8779
    @brandoncalloway8779 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've always heard of 444hz being the frequency of King David. I'd like to see you take that on.

  • @Treythemusician
    @Treythemusician 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subbed, great content man! Looking forward to more videos like this

  • @thekingmonarch
    @thekingmonarch 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the way you did this video. The twist was very intriguing. So I happened upon a copy of this frequency chart claiming to be the original value of notes. These notes are said to correspond to the resonant frequencies based upon the geometric laws of the universe. I have it lying around somewhere, and yes A happened around 432 cycles, although I think it was actually slightly lower. I created a piano scale with these frequencies mapped the best I could, all of them being, slightly off of what they would be in the commonly recognized scale. I used a moog and a tuner on my computer, but in reality the notes were precise down to a 100th of a cycle so I can't speak to what degree of accuracy I was able to maintain. I did notice that the notes did seem to resonate better, but that, could be as you said, a placebo effect. One thing of note is that dissonant notes seemed to sound less off. I think this could be due to the fact that the actual degree of the scale was a more even mathematically and created less phase juxtapositions. If you're interested I could see if I could find the scale and republish the frequencies.

  • @griffinnelson4288
    @griffinnelson4288 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still liked whatever was lower in pitch. I don't know why but my ears have always enjoyed the sound of songs in lower tuning than in standard.
    You're right though about singing. I find myself straining way less in lower tunings and I feel like I can write a better melody if it's in a lower tuning. 🤙 great video and keep up the great work!

    • @RicardoAldana1988
      @RicardoAldana1988 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That´s cuz your ear is sayin' to you where it´s a better point where sound and music it just feel right! I would suggest 430 with a slightly turn up intonation to 431 hz aprox by ear as equal modern temperament! it´s all in the ear and 432 it´s a good mathematical reference and startpoint

  • @asheriko26
    @asheriko26 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice dude ! i liked your vibe and also the way you developed your points

  • @JohnMutch
    @JohnMutch 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for taking the time to explore this idea.

  • @trevorclark7985
    @trevorclark7985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i think when we hear 432 it’s like we’re used to 440 so much it just sounds refreshing to hear it a little bit lower. none of that healing magic bullshit

  • @RabbitintheMoon
    @RabbitintheMoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are awesome... loved this!

  • @marco89lcdm
    @marco89lcdm 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow blow my mind 👍👍 good one sensei!

  • @overtarget
    @overtarget 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    no wonder the 432hz songs u played felt off, i thought it was just me lol. Nice going there.

  • @afipia7
    @afipia7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually felt that the examples given were not all 440 vs 432hz because the feel was not consistent between the different examples and I thought to myself, this guy can't possibly be tricking his loyal viewers like this but yes, yes you did. Subscribed!

  • @Chadosaaan
    @Chadosaaan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Very well thought out.

  • @garycrase7068
    @garycrase7068 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic. Best instructional video on hz I ever heard

  • @Steve-mq9sg
    @Steve-mq9sg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Samurai Scientist, I like it :)

  • @virusladd
    @virusladd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I thought they all sounded off except for the jazzy one

  • @The00Free00
    @The00Free00 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well played, you've earned a subscriber

  • @youngkovicmusic.6056
    @youngkovicmusic.6056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great work, great video !

  • @TytoMobile
    @TytoMobile 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The lower tunings just sounded like a slow record player, having been played after the higher ones.

  • @austynwoodliff3190
    @austynwoodliff3190 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been doing this for years without knowing it was conspiracy. I always felt like tuning it to 432 sounded a bit fuller

  • @beware_ofdogg
    @beware_ofdogg ปีที่แล้ว

    Love what you did at the end there

  • @felinefurball
    @felinefurball 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Samurai, thumbs up for the insane amount of research for your content 👍👍😅

  • @TranceCore3
    @TranceCore3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't think 440 or 432 sound better or worse than the other, but there's definitely a color difference.
    Gives me an idea to write in A@432, because I've only ever wrote music at A@440

    • @djsilent01
      @djsilent01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree exactly. there was a definite color difference.. which is what I've been looking for...

  • @yvngpierre1063
    @yvngpierre1063 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Spiritual So sent me here

  • @trickedouttech321
    @trickedouttech321 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this video! I wonder how many MoFo's had to backpedal once you said I lied. That was the best video on the subject ever! great job calling out the 8Hz junkies. I think many different tunings sounds great all depending on the music. As long as all your other notes are in tune with one another it will sound smooth and good to the ear. doesn't matter if you've tuned down 1/2 step or 2 steps or up the same. As long as all notes are tuned to sync your golden.

  • @mimiteas
    @mimiteas 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a complete experiment! Thank you!

  • @kasolkay
    @kasolkay 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I enjoyed the Higher pitched ones, the ones that weren't tuned down as low.

  • @VinicioHaner
    @VinicioHaner 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now I know why I liked only the sound of "432hz" in the first example

  • @professorpedropontes4402
    @professorpedropontes4402 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for clearing that up.

  • @andrewcampbell2903
    @andrewcampbell2903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done , sir . I'm sure you surprised most or at least many of us . I hope to test it for myself ,, as best I can , on brass instruments . I am always flat when I tune up with my brass band . I simply play the natural tone according to my embouchure without a reference tone . I simply wonder , in this case if the tone that naturally results may be better , warmer , rounder , etc .

  • @andrewvonzuben7471
    @andrewvonzuben7471 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hi!
    I tried 432 hz out on my acoustic guitar last year. I didn't notice much difference at first. But after a while I did. It seemed as though it took some time for my guitar to adjust. The result was my best year of songwriting ever; by a long shot, and with the same habits. Maybe it was coincidence, but it didn't feel that way. I play in 440 now so that I'm in tune with the norm, but if I ever finish up my songs from last year I'll go back to 432 for more.

    • @RicardoAldana1988
      @RicardoAldana1988 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would suggest 430 with a slightly turn up intonation to 431 hz aprox by ear as equal modern temperament! it´s all in the ear and 432 it´s a good mathematical reference and startpoint

    • @R.C.Bullar
      @R.C.Bullar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tuned my guitar completely by ear with no reference point. The result? I had tuned my guitar to exactly 430 and some strings slightly up or down for more intonation within the instrument.

  • @K0r0n1s
    @K0r0n1s 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Did you also change tuning on the drums accordingly? :-P

    • @schmollischolle2641
      @schmollischolle2641 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      K0r0n1s i asked that now top before i read you're comment. I don't think so either. But I can't blame hin if he didn't because that takes a lot of time.

    • @cptnoremac
      @cptnoremac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *your

    • @isaacmaxwell5082
      @isaacmaxwell5082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If he did not, it is not a full 432 experiment.

  • @calebrains370
    @calebrains370 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Mind blown. I think I preferred the former clip in each example simply because it was an established reference point before the latter. That was a great little experiment!

  • @quaveda1983
    @quaveda1983 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comprehensive explanation! 👍

  • @Dustiliciousz
    @Dustiliciousz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Don't know bout everyone else, but I certainly heard that the frequencies changed drastically per song. Not better or worse, just obvious to my ear. Having said, that loved the clip! And what an impressive collection of instruments you have. Will subscribe

  • @yummyjackalmeat
    @yummyjackalmeat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I agree. It's just BS. I do just like tuning lower. If someone plays at A415hz I feel EVEN MORE drawn to that. There isn't anything special about 415, or 410, 432, or 442, or 440. People try to prove why something is "good" when all they need to say is "I like it because I just like it." 15 or so years ago people were freaking out because orchestras were starting to tune to 442. It's all kinda dumb to me and a way to avoid taking responsibility for your own music and your own opinions.

    • @RicardoAldana1988
      @RicardoAldana1988 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It´s called comfort zone and it has to do with the fact that we are used to some conceptions that it occurs that could it be missconceptions.. like what we hear and how we hear it! I would suggest 430 with a slightly turn up intonation to 431 hz aprox by ear as equal modern temperament! it´s all in the ear and 432 it´s a good mathematical reference and startpoint

    • @jacksonpriest2033
      @jacksonpriest2033 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ricardo Aldana you said the exact same thing on another comment

    • @edilbertolopez9514
      @edilbertolopez9514 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yummyjackalmeat its making others difficult for others to imitate yourcomposition. if theresva note in between mi and fa ti and do ill use it and people whovaccidentally like my musicwill be in a quandary on how to play it. just wait til I can invent a microphone that can make my voice into blended four voices automatically

    • @TopRacer-tx5cd
      @TopRacer-tx5cd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      415. Baroque tuning XD

  • @frangellico
    @frangellico 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid mate, thanks

  • @dylanduke1075
    @dylanduke1075 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a really good explanation of how sound works !

  • @h.i.mcdunnough9421
    @h.i.mcdunnough9421 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank god people are starting to cover this topic. A few months ago I had to dig to find someone being honest about this "Philosopher's tuning". It all comes down to personal taste, vocal strain (as you mentioned), and the fact that we respond to reference points in music such as intervals or side by side tuning comparisons. On that note I love that you lied about the real tunings! I had no idea the first was above 440! Most people are not able to tell either so this deception really proved your point!

    • @ptsdjoe4956
      @ptsdjoe4956 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeff Stack I'm not sure if you make any sense at all. It's fact that most people love sugar and sugary things... But it's DEFINITELY NOT GOOD FOR OUR BODIES!!! Capiche? Do some brainiac work if you're gonna try to sound "brainy". Please, for the love of GOD!!! RESEARCH BEFORE OPINING ON ANYTHING!!!

  • @Pyriscent
    @Pyriscent 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My music here on youtube from my band is all in 432 hz and I'm never going back!

  • @FFVison
    @FFVison 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not to mention that if you are moving, you will experience variations in pitch due to the Doppler effect and even if you could account for those, you also have variations in movement which alters how you experience time itself as per the theory of relativity. Then, I also heard an episode of Science Friday on NPR that featured a talk about "leap seconds" and how they would add or even subtract seconds to the correct official time. The fact of the matter is that just playing an instrument, your instruments will go out of tune periodically and no one will notice. Just enjoy the music.

  • @eljardinperdido
    @eljardinperdido 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, I love that twist you threw on the end. Placebo or not, some of the original ‘432’ songs did not actually resonate with me and I was like, ‘wtf, this is a crock.’

  • @PearlJamaholic
    @PearlJamaholic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was going to suggest next time do a blind test when you do a comparison....but you're pretty sly. Well done!

  • @Rendydany
    @Rendydany 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this is advanced. sometimes I record my guitar and bass parts few semitone or even one note higher. then shift the pitch down to normal in the mixing to get more full sound, but this is an irrelevant topic I guess

    • @noseloquedigo92514
      @noseloquedigo92514 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well, the beatles did that in strawberry fields forever, and they've got an amazing result.

  • @ZPDSurvival
    @ZPDSurvival 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video. Thank You.

  • @zimmie99
    @zimmie99 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant. Couldn't agree more!!

  • @prepecenihleb1679
    @prepecenihleb1679 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I generally liked the second versions better because they felt softer and more soothing

  • @niconico4138
    @niconico4138 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was not completely sure about this A = 432Hz thing, so I just tuned half of my strings to 440Hz and the other half to 432Hz. Now my music is resonating with the universe AND my neighbours in whole new ways!

    • @Bikeadelic
      @Bikeadelic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is only one version of the story and its the most reduc one. There is another much more compelling and provable. Ultimately you need to hear the comparison between 440 and 432 while tripping balls.

  • @kernalkarma4752
    @kernalkarma4752 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes ..Brilliant presentation . thank you .

  • @gregfultonmusic
    @gregfultonmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well played!

  • @kingblaze7272
    @kingblaze7272 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    who here from solluminati

    • @cxldi2684
      @cxldi2684 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me lmfao

    • @cxldi2684
      @cxldi2684 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shit got me scared

    • @shelovesmar
      @shelovesmar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Allowment shit got me thinking

    • @ytsquad7791
      @ytsquad7791 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me

    • @Yon_Solo
      @Yon_Solo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ong lmao

  • @heathbarnhart1092
    @heathbarnhart1092 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I didn't really notice a difference except on the rock example, and then it was barely noticeable. What's the difference between 440 and 432 in terms of semi-tones?

    • @holofech9744
      @holofech9744 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A = 440, Ab = 415.30, so like a third of a semi-tone

    • @xenontesla122
      @xenontesla122 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Holofech
      0.317666536334293 semi-tones to be way too precise.

  • @gish_
    @gish_ ปีที่แล้ว

    so proud of myself for noticing the tuning trick before you mentioned it

  • @guitar19971
    @guitar19971 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    HAHA! This is brilliant. Goes to show the power of the placebo effect even in music. Great job Samurai guitarist I love your videos. Keep up the quality content.

  • @brianprinty112
    @brianprinty112 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stop giving my guitarist ideas! He's gonna make me retune all my drumheads

  • @billymurphy6910
    @billymurphy6910 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The last few seconds BLEW my F*C*I*G mind! YOU LIED TO ME!

  • @anhedonia4441
    @anhedonia4441 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video!

  • @kewlbns69
    @kewlbns69 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    before the end my thought was "it doesn't always work." but now i see you were up to shenanigans. :)

  • @jonnysophisticado
    @jonnysophisticado 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like 432, just vibes nicely to my taste. For me it was definitely like what samurai said as far as perking up your ear to something new. I played 440 for over twenty years and switching to 432 was like a breath of fresh air, but so are alternate tunings

  • @scumprophet3630
    @scumprophet3630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At first I was like “man that 432 stuff sounds pretty good, and then after you revealed the goof I thought “ the metal kid in me probably just prefers lower tunings

  • @Lascarnn
    @Lascarnn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is exactly what internet needed! Thank you for cleaning misinformation in those dark times! :)

  • @timchalmers1700
    @timchalmers1700 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best ever video on 432 vs 440. Best ever musical examples on 440 vs 432. And yeah, I liked all of the examples because the instruments were in tune with each other.