Off-road Comparison: Touareg gen 1 & 2, Outlander (wilderness), Passport, Outback, Explorer
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It's been almost a year (11.5 months to be exact) since this trip out to the Hungry Valley SVRA (state vehicle recreational area) in Gorman, California. A fellow overlander was visiting from the Bay Area, so we rounded up 30 rigs to come out and practice off-road techniques (sorry I couldn't fit everyone in the video).
So, in this episode, the focus will be on the "cement shelf climb". I love this obstacle because it's always consistent. It doesn't deteriorate, it doesn't get rutted, it's always the same. I'd love to see the big TH-cam channels, that recently purchased LAND, to implement an obstacle like this into their tests. Lets see it @drivingsports and @TFLcar . Big shout out to those channels, Roman and Tommy made the 1st gen Touareg famous and Ryan is the guy that showed me what iVTM4 could do, so I went ahead and bought a Honda Passport.
Although this video is an off-road comparison, please don't confuse it with an off-road competition. Too many people get fanboy/fangirl about the car band they drive. Open your mind, and just observe how other vehicles perform. In this episode we see a stock Mitsubishi Outlander 2.4 4cylinder with a continuously variable transmission on bald street tires with a $20 spring spacer lift climb up the cement shelf obstacle. In the past, we've tried to get CVT Subarus with aggressive A/T tires up this obstacle with no success. So why is this? Because the Outlander was rocking "Wilderness" gearing, before the "Wilderness" was even a thing. The AWD system in the Outlander is a scaled down version of the legendary AWD system that was in the Evolution 10. The Mitsubishi crossovers simply don't get enough credit, and to be honest, I forgot about them too until I started editing this video.
In this episode we will see an overly built 1st gen 4WD Touareg vs. a 2nd gen AWD Touareg. While the original is impressive, don't sleep on the newer model, it has 406 TQ!!
Things to note:
-MOST VEHICLES ARE AIRED DOWN
-ALL VEHICLES ARE LIFTED (even the ghetto lifted outlander on bald tires)
-EVERYONE HAS HAD ATLEAST A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE
-WE WERE ALL SPOTTED UP
Stay safe!
Navigation
00:00 Intro
01:11 Meet the Cement Hill Climb
03:30 Jeep Wrangler Sahara JK @O4lo
04:17 1st Gen Volkswagen Touareg @awdfam
06:28 1st Gen Ford Explorer @jaycal90
07:35 2nd Gen Volkswagen Touareg @geekwgn
08:57 1st Gen Touareg with 4 Lo, center/rear locker engaged
10:26 3rd Gen CVT Mitsubishi Outlander 2.4 @j_k_adventuring
14:28 2nd Gen Subaru Outback 3.0 LLbean
15:39 3rd Gen Honda Passport @JonDZ_Adventuring
17:58 3rd Gen Mitsubishi Outlander 3.0 GT @revving9K
18:40 Outtro song by @neffexmusic
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I own two Touaregs, an 06 and a 13. I can confirm that they're both unstoppable lol.
I have a second gen cayenne but really like the first gen Touareg with the tdi and cayenne both with low range. A little more aftermarket for the first gen as well like high clearance bumpers.
ROCK on VW
Always loved gen1 touareg. When tfl had to tow a broken ram down a mountain with one it was hilarious.
TFL made the Touareg famous!
Using the concrete obstacle hill is a great idea for comparisons because like you said, it doesn’t get worn down and change! Another great video Jon, lots of fun thanks for sharing.
Yeah, in the video description I mentioned TFL and Driving Sports TV, since they both bought land to run their offroad tests. I read think they should make a cement hill like this.
Comparisons like these are always so fun to watch. Thanks.
Thank you for sharing Jon. I have not been to Gorman for quite a few years. That 4x4 course is timeless!!
Awesome video as always! Feels like I'm in offroading school when I watched your comparison videos, loved it very informative. Can't believe that's almost a year ago when I finally met you IN-PERSON lol. We should do something like this in the future Thanks for the featured and being a youtube big brother lol.
I really like watching your comparison videos. They’re very informative.
Thank you Philip 🙏
always amazed to see AWD cars go places that make me nervous in a 99 Land Cruiser!
I want to thank you for doing all your Videos and also thanks to those in the comments section that always have positive things to say.
Decided to buy a Honda Ridgeline 2022
I have a lifted outlander as well, i should be hanging out with those guys
Come hangout with us! There’s not to many lifted outlanders out there. Probably will plan a off roading trip to Lake Tahoe this summer.
@@jklpino i wish!!! but i live in florida, i just uploaded my outlander so you can check it out
Awsome video, great comparison 👍. Need to get out there to test out both the wife and i vehicles
Now I need to take a trip there to see how my forester wilderness handles that!
If you ever do, let me know when you go and I’ll meet up with you. I’d be honored to capture to moment. One thing I really liked to see how the Outlander was able to restart mid hill and try again. That’s so important when out overlanding and adventuring, because it means you can get yourself out of a tough situation.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring will do! Though being out on the east coast, that'll take some time haha.
And yea, I was really impressed by that, especially with a cvt. Definitely makes me more comfortable with the types of places I'm planning on going.
Excellent video! Owner of Range Rover sport 2008 . Would love to join when u guys are exploring Southern California ohv trails
Awesome I always wanted a crawler myself cuz the element woukd had to just park and watch haha
JonDZ looks like you were driving a sailboat with that awning on the side. I heard wind power adds like 10hp lol.
That was the hope, to get a little pulled up the obstacle ! 🤣
That was a fun day!
Yeah it was! Looking forward to the Mojave trip. Hope you can make it
Only thing your missing is some Go Fast stripes Jon.
Dude on a Serious note @JonDzAdventure thanks for all the work you do finding these locations & being able to heard all the cats to put these videos together. Thanks for all you do.
ps
Food Brake??? Are we on the Hobbit diet?
Yeah. The gen 1 touareg was mine. Double checked with the damaged chrome trim damage on the drive door and the reg plate. LoL. Glad to see it climb. I hope the drive/buyer 'remain unchanged' LOL.
Love your videos Jon! Very informative and the educational value on vehicle specs and rear-world application is awesome. I have a 2020 TRD OR 4x4 Tacoma that I've only wheeled once at Kavanaugh Ridge with some SoCal Friends. Would like to tag along if you guys ever make it up here. Keep up the awesome videos!
Thanks for the kind words BisdakYoda 🙏. We’ve been to Kavanaugh Ridge, we actually travel up the 395 quite frequently. We have a Facebook group if you wanted to meet up. There’s quite a few from Norcal too!
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Thanks for the invite! I'll look you up on FB. I'll be driving down to Texas to get my rock sliders, skid plates and KC lightbar installed this first week of March (I live in Texas but work here in San Jose)
@@JonDZ_Adventuring What the FB group name? Anyway, thanks again Jon!
It’s called “crossoverlanding (hub)”
My first exposure to off-roading was near Bryce Canyon during winter with the family. Was in high school at the time, so wasn’t the one at the wheel, and we had the first gen Touareg V8 AWD. We thought it was capable enough but we got stuck in the snow in standard all terrains. My dad and I had to trek about a mile and a half to a nearby house where the owners were so kind that basically the whole family came out in snow mobiles and hitched us a ride back to help tow us out. Interesting but cool experience, no pun intended.
Thanks for sharing! Any vehicle will get stuck once it high centers in snow and the tires get buried. A few videos back, my friends lifted Nissan Xterra sunk in 2 feet of snow. The recovery was exhausting (and cold). Then I slept in frosty 10F weather with numb feet (because snow got into my boots. It sucked 🤣.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I feel you, I was wearing basketball shoes and jeans through this whole thing 😂 we had finished up our trip in Utah and were headed for Vegas before we decided to take this detour lol
BIG THUMBS UP!!!
I need to get out there.
Yeah that wing gives you the extra lift to take you through that hill 👍😂
JonDZ Adventuring it looks like that wing gave you an unflying advantage!
😃🤣
The 2nd gen Touareg - does is that on standard AWD only? Or running on the Terrain tech 4WD?
Would be interesting to see how an Outback Wilderness would do on this climb
I’d be interested to! They climb better than my old Forester XT. Would it be enough though?
Any remedy options for the SJ FXT crawl ratio? The new wilderness edition Subarus use a CVT with improved crawl ratio, is there any way to update/convert? (Mechanically ignorant question)
That’s a good question, i many people have chimed in about this in the forums, but it doesn’t look like there’s an easy way. There’s just too much electronics involved. The SJ FXTs already have pretty aggressive 4.11:1 differential gears. 4.44:1 being the most aggressive available to Subarus. 14.3:1 in the FXT is pretty close to the Outback Wilderness 15.5:1.
No Sarah no piece!! Lol
What's your thoughts on Jeep Renegade? I just got a lift done and shopping to tires, really wanna make it an Overlander.
They’re proven. They’ve been taken to Moab and alot of other 4WD trails. My Honda actually shares the same transmission with 2018 and Earlier Trailhawk Renegage. We have a 20.4:1 crawl ratio. 2019 renegade Trailhawks are geared a slightly more aggressive 21.3:1. Jeep crossovers have hands down the best traction control system out of all the AWDs. People actually do beginner rock crawling with them, so to answer your question. Yeah, it’s a good choice.
Oemgee that’s scary babe 😱😱
Wait was that a real car or an RC car in the into... bro you got me stumped!
It was an large RC car, haha!
There’s a guy who drove his outback wilderness there with no problem, nice and slow. It’s on TH-cam. Was posted this month
Good to know, but I did a search and didn’t see anything. I’d like to see it, can you provide a link?
@@JonDZ_Adventuring ops turned out it’s a different hill. It looked similar. Heres the video i was talking about. th-cam.com/video/QA1MP1-T5ws/w-d-xo.html
@@timothyj.2937 different place. Looked like they used a telephoto lense and it appears to be roughly 20 degrees. this test here is 35 degrees. Even the Volkswagen Touareg in 4 Lo with, center diff locked and rear differential locked, still spun out a little at 10:01. Everyone was aired down here, this test is much more demanding and technical compared to Sarah’s test hill. With the right preparation, the right driver, and a bit of bravery, the Outback wilderness might make it. We just won’t know until someone tries it.
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Great video!
Haha! Thanks!
That gen 1 touareg looks like mine which was sold to a 'tough' guy. I think he paint the wheel.
We just need a Tacoma in there haha
Haha! It would be awesome if you brought your old 2WD Tacoma up this. Or bring your new 4WD taco if it’s stock, so you’ll have to dodge the rocks 😃
no t bad for front wheel drive base wagons
Mmm, left food brake.
OMG!!! Hhahahahahahahah! Good catch 😋
I gotta try that technique.
Why the heck is you awning out
was trying to generate lift
Bro get in shape or overdub it
Do you suggest this work out: th-cam.com/users/shortsR_9i_WH91UQ?feature=share?
omg that 1st gen toureg driver is just the worst. jeezez man, just apply even throttle, i'm losing my mind