Reminds me of when I fist bought tye game and got stuck on tree sentinel for 4 days and considered deleting the game but preserved been addicted ever since
@@eno6712 The militants literally take me exactly as many hits to kill as the new mesmer soldiers, although the stomp into underswing into overswing can get you killed real fast
The Scadutree mechanic is similar to levels in the main game, it's not an extra helping hand, it's literally levels. Going without any Scadutree upgrade is like fighting bosses while being level 1.
Y’know for the longest time I thought my brain worked in a unique way but every time I look in a comment section I see somebody replicate my exact thoughts. This situation isn’t a good example because even a person with a negative iq could guess what this video is about but does anybody know what I mean?
I completly suck at Souls games because I'm in my 60's and don't have the hand-eye coordination I once had. Having said that I beat the final boss on my second try. Because I collected the fragments and made myself into a tank using an OP build I came up with myself with lots of status effects. there are a 100 different easy ways to beat any Souls game with no effort if you use the mechanics and tools the game gives you
Your hand-eye coordination might not be so bad after all! You know, everything is relative and maybe you should say "I am in my 60s but despite that I still have cat"s reflexes, get good, youngsters!!"
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The scadutree fragments remind me of the prayer beads in Sekiro. It’s essentially the same mechanic and I have no idea how people haven’t figured that out yet.
I've seen two guys that have already finished the whole DLC doing a no damage run. And I believe Dino who did a God run (No damage complete runs of all fromsoft games in a sequence) would've done it too.
Nah, they just have that cringe "SOLO ONLY" mentality. They can't fathom the idea that this ISN'T dark souls and is literally designed to be played with all of the mechanics, But nah, keep screaming and breaking your controller because you refuse to play the game the way it was intended lol.
Armor, protection talismans, and shields. Make so much of a difference in the DLC. I feel like everyone forgot about how good defense is. I haven’t seen a streamer yet who complained use any kind of defense. Of course you get one shot wearing a light set of armor
Agreed ima souls vet, not amazing at the game but decent but found every aspect of this dlc more then fair and enjoyable, reckon 3 bosses away from final
@@Waves2299 Yes it does, It's not a HUGE difference, but if you really tested it, You would find that you're surviving the usual killing blows with a little bit of health left. Which is the intended design, Armor saves your life, but not by much, But can be the difference between dead boss or dead player. I definitely see why you think that, but as a fromsoft vet, it DOES help, just not the way it does in most games like it. You're mostly getting buff defences against various damage types, like bleed, Fire, etc. But physical defence DOES indeed help
Calling in other players to help me with a boss and then throwing my sign down after it’s beat to help the next players are some of my best memories from all the souls games.
Genuinely, ignoring the “souls stigma” of no summons/shields/magic/whatever has made my experience so much better, it’s a video game, the only thing that matters is enjoying the experience
But using summins/shields/magic you just then playing shit game, that's why we shame people using this. Using those you playing easier gameb than assassins creed.
@@robhans5bro really orders a steak at a restaurant, licks the crust and then says it's actually shitty to eat the whole steak 💀 my guy, people paid money for the game's content, they're gonna use as much of the game's content as they can, you sound like one of the people musashi miyamoto killed because he "didn't fight fair"
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Scadutree Fragments are definitely NOT training wheels, it’s the main progression of the DLC. It’s the equivalent of weapon upgrades. Can you skip them? Yes. Will you deal far less damage? Yes. Can you still beat it without them? Yes. Simple as that
Someone said its like doing a soul level one challenge if you dont do them also. Leveling your character and weapon is the easy mode of souls. Why people do those challenges because that want it to be more difficult.
Essentially it boils down to "use the game mechanics as intended" or "challenge yourself" if you're going to purposely challenge yourself then you lose all rights to complain about the difficulty cause you're doing it to yourself.
I do think there is artificial difficult in base game (havnt played the dlc probably wont. i prefer bloodborne) with malenia and the end game bosses, i.e. input reading, speed of combos, no windows to attack. I beat all the main game bosses, but I think because there is A: an open world to level easily and B: very strong builds/ weapons. if you dont go into either A and B the game is very artificially hard. I never used summons co op or mimic but the game was horribly hard due to the way I wanted to play. (I wanted to do a guts build because it looked cool sue me). I really do think theres something to that. Why cant some people play the way they want to play?
I really don’t understand why is it difficult because the mobs and and bosses have a big ass hp bar yes. They knew from the beginning that dlc will be hard that’s why they implemented the summons plus I never saw a streamer youtubers using pots or grease and other things they use the a cheese tactic and blame the game for being to easy… Miyazaki didn’t like it because it was to easy so he made a dlc that put even veterans on a scare once more
Tbh until I got scadotree fragments I was dieing from 1 hit on everything (80 Vigor) and thought it was artificial difficulty (but I didn’t mind because before beating the game I never leveled Vigor because I wanted true skill)
Artificial difficulty is the same enemy but with more health and damage. You see this in recycled bosses, and it's fine every so often. It's not fine for a whole game/ expansion, so.... This DLC is perfectly fine actually, because the bosses are pretty unique and not artificially difficult
@@junoperberry take everything i say with a grain of salt cause i'm ass at elden ring but it does good staggers for melania, but i personally couldn't beat her with it. i used dark moon greatsword (before learning it's considered a "cheese build" - still don't really know what that is) and ranni's dark moon to get the frostbite on her and it's significantly better than moonveil.
I was expecting to get tickled but my twig n berries got crushed. Gonna leave a negative steam reveiw, that'll show them. I suck and it's all their fault
Literally half the community hates the current path they are taking with the story telling sending you straight to renala and messmir that are literally late game. RINGS ANY BELLS? (Marget?) Remember him? When you were follwing the grace path they literally fucs you over by sending you to a boss your not supposed to be doing? No one gives any real critasim. An hashinshin literally states all this year's back am look what happened now its fuced. Maybe lock some of the content your not supposed to do yet. Until you reached level then have the npc's gave u a clear distination and path to the promissed content. But they trick you with the marget boss with the grace path. Who tf gonna follow that path again in the dlc? Other than that have some dashes instead of stupid arce looking barrel rollls 80 times during aa boss fight. Great game otherwise thank you.
Gayus is the hardest boss I’ve ever had to fight bro. He is genuinely a terrible boss you can summon your mimic and he is already running you down straight down the fog. If you miss the mini dodge window your cooked and stun locked. The other bosses aren’t that bad there are some bosses that are a little hard, but bro he actually needs some fixes
I would even argue that scadutree fragments aren’t even training wheels. They’re essentially a new leveling system only within the dlc. Scadutree Levels 1-20. Most of the people getting fucked on are probably unbelievably “under-leveled” within the context of the dlc.
I’ve done the scaturtree thing twice and have beaten Rellana. Took about 15 damned times but got it done lol. That damned twin moon attack made me a little erect. I don’t know how many scaturtree fragments I’m supposed to collect before she got easier.
To be fair as long as you can dodge well it doesn't really matter I beat Mesmer in like maximum 10 tries at fragment level like 4 and it wasn't hard with this being my first souls like so I'm sure more experienced players would be fine
@@thesinaclwonI think that’s how many your supposed to have? I don’t know. I saw the moon attack once and said “Nope never again” and switched to a weapon that could stun lock them.
That shouldn’t even be an argument. It was put into the game like golden seeds and tears in the main game. It’s a natural and steady way to make sure players characters can keep up with the stronger enemies as you progress through the game.
Can’t tell you how many winers are 250+ on some NG+ level and think they can ignore the DLC function we knew about FOR MONTHS. Plus, why would From add spirit buffs as a major mechanic if you’re not supposed to use them? Bird brains.
just finished rellana today. I don't personally use summons or tears nor debuffs on my greatsword and it does feel like I'm underleveled. I feel like at some point you get a moment of clarity and the bosses (only gone through Lion and Rellana for now) become very doable and you trade on attacks you thought were too risky to take),
Bosses don't cheese you, if you can dodge it, it's always fair. With the exception of Nihil you can dodge EVERY attack in this game And you're not cheesing the game for using summons and the other mechanics the game presents to you, you're cheesing if you search builds for oneshotting bosses, like a quality greatbow build with Radahn's Rain and a long buff routine before the fight, and even so, it's still fine to use it if you want to
@@justifano7046 They decided to make the bosses reward on patience and you have to really figure out attack patterns moreso then any game or dlc they've made before. Which in concept is fine but I feel that the way the executed it just made the bosses not fun for me. I didn't really struggle either but I just wasn't having fun fighting anything because it just feels annoying to fight most of the bosses.
It's even worse because there's a million diff things than summoning. DLC has tight weapons, skills for those weapons, crafting is now worthwhile, etc. Most normal players are getting on with the game while a handful of try hard streamers cry lol
Literally 95% of fromsoft fans it's crazy ( I say this having played 6/7 of the fromsoft soulslike games ) *I refuse to use mechanic* *game is difficult* *>:(*
The problem I see with summons is that they don't fix most - if not any - inherent issues of bosses, like shitty windups, bloated damage, rollcatching and input reading. All summons do is make the boss' problems less unbearable by having you tackle them less often due to split aggro, but the moment the boss turns to you, every single problem the summon was having is still there and about to slap you in the face. I remember fighting this one boss on a tiny island behind a castle to the south of the map, and I just really wasn't vibing with the fight; eventually I just said "fuck it", summoned a stupid jellyfish with incredibly bloated health and the fight went from 100 to 0, essentially making the fight go from too hard to too easy - that's awful design.
The scadutree fragments aren’t training wheels, you’re literally expected to use them because the bosses are scaled up. If you don’t grab them you’re just gonna be one shot by everything
i have maxed them out and beat the dlc and I promise you that shit is placebo. Bosses still take half your health per hit at max, only thing that changes is the overworld mobs are easier.
Everyone, the Scadutree fragments are definitely intentional - it’s pulled from Sekiro. The Scadutree fragments leveling system was introduced so that you can’t use your old level 700 character, and immediately curb-stomp everything in the DLC.
@@jaswanthvardireddy2243100% Asmon the voice of this, is pathetic. And I’m pretty sure Charlie knows and is not afraid to go to war against Asmon about this topic. Asmon is acting very bitch like about this DLC
The health the bosses have without all the fragments is actually wack af, not very fun chipping away at like 30k health when my great swords hitting like a pool noodle
Yeah, the fragments were to debuff overleveled players so they couldn't just steamroll the whole DLC without putting in some work. It's a bonus extra hard mode if anything if you choose to not get the seeds.
@@SnakeEater776 Well honestly I find that hard to believe considering there's Scadutree fragments at very important locations and a whole new menu appears at the grace points
@@bologna2644 Exactly. The game doesn't spell out where/what golden seeds are or sacred tears, you have to actually get off your ass and find them to get that information. Same with the Scadutree and whatnot. Game doesn't handhold you. People loved that, and now they hate it because they're not as gud as they thought they were
The real problem is that bosses like rellana would be perfect on Sekiro, but on this game u basically have to press circle for the entire fight and attack every 5 minutes, not to mention the framerate which is an added difficulty
Yeah especially if you are playing in new game + its extremely easy to upgrade your summons, weapons, and character level to make the game as easy as you need it to be. Playing on New game + you get massive amounts of runes (anywhere from 2X to 5X the amount of rune drops), so you can quickly just upgrade your character until you can beat the boss.
Why do people not understand that this expansion is meant for the veterans with ultimate builds they've cultivated throughout the last two years to test them out against the hardest bosses From Soft has to offer? This is the last hurrah for Elden Ring, you're not going to zoom through it in a weekend.
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yeah that turns it into a pretty black and white experience for me personally - use mimic and play on adventure mode or dont use mimic and play on the hardest difficulty there is
the problem with that is is that you get toxic gatekeepers telling you "well you didn't REALLY beat the game if you use (summon/magic/bleed/etc etc)" so it deters people from using things that would help them beat the fight. or you have people telling you how much of a massive idiot baby you are for not being able to beat a boss and just "lmao git gud scrub".
The Scadutree fragments are the intended gameplay mechanic to allow all players to start the DLC on an equal level. They want you to explore the map and come back to fights later if you arent able to do it right away, like how Margitt teaches new players to go away and lvl up in the base game
Eh. While I haven't delved into the DLC yet, I beat Margitt as a Wretch with only a club. You can learn any fight as long as there aren't unavoidable moves.
Yeah the dancing lion is destroying me, so I was thinking of finding some fragments and then return, literally no reason to torture yourself its about taking your time.
See, that isn't what I learned from Margitt. What I learned from Margitt is that I have more lives than him and if I'm stubborn enough anything can be killed
It's 4% more attack and 2% damage reduction per level too. So even at blessing level 3/4 the differences should be fairly noticeable. At max level(20) you get almost double attack and half damage from these fragments.
I don't remember where I heard it but the DLC is trying to show that dodging is not the only way to avoid damage. From using shields to block (even the medium ones especially with barricade), to parrying. Even some ashes of war help with quickstep or bloodhound step if your feeling spicy or Indomiable Oath (?) Where you just get a second of invulnerability (which is a little more than twice as long as a dodge's I-frames) on activation. Even jumping is surprisingly useful in both the base game an DLC.
Using a summon doesn’t even mean you’re trash, it’s a tool in the game. These are the same people that will apply 5 buffs and use a fully upgraded weapon the boss is weak to. The logic never adds up
The logic there is that summons take away aggro drastically making the fight easier while buffing just adds more damage / less damage taken. Golden vow isn't suddenly going to make you win the fight but a mimic tear can carry you. That said use whatever you want it's supposed to be fun.
No lie, after being more of a experienced souls gamer i refuse to use cheesy summons aka black knife mimic, however i do use stormhawk just to see the moves of the boss then I get the hang of it a lot quicker it is a great enough tool.
@@SunlightPrince that’s cute, wait would it be an ultimate anime rage moment if you use the new talisman after the spirits pass? I wonder if it stacks when you have more than one summon
I’ve noticed with the bosses still target you more rather than the summon. From the base game to the DLC I feel like the summons dont agro like they used to.
I’m actually not sure what the DLC difficulty is supposed to be. Because I’m halfway through it on my new game plus character from the original. I’m not sure if it carries over because it seems like no one else has done this. But It took 7 SD fragments for me to actually start doing damage
I'm disabled and find the DLC awesome. Yeah it kicks my butt, but no other game company has made me feel more proud of myself for going beyond my limitations and adapting to what I can't improve. I have pain, my hands don't work like everyone else's, and brain issues.. I am having a great time. And I didn't need anyone to help me with Moggy, no one was there to summon. I grabbed the two sisters, used the spank trinket on him, the phys that nullifies his nihil tantrum, and tried over and over different tactics. I got mad, I got frustrated, but then the feeling of killing Moggy was glorious. Anyways, just take your time. Go to the farming place (I'll let you find it!) In the main game and make sure to try different weapons and armor and ashes etc. Level up your Mimic Tear and Tiche. Google what you're finding hard and people will have tips. It's a new DLC do it's not going to be chocablocky yet but soon. No performance problems yet for me - ps4 pro - it is a great DLC so far. And of course, kiss the Turtle Pope.
way to go, happy you're enjoying this even with the extra challenges life threw your way. True Elden Lord right here yall. Likely hero, therefore praise the good vibes.
I also noticed through my gameplay and watching others that the hit boxes on the golden hippo, lion puppet and giaus aren't there sometimes when you're hitting their back-side. Like my weapon will just go straight through them sometimes. So it's like it's there sometimes and not other times. Seem like an error in the code they need to patch up.
Are you ready for this to get funnier? IGN tweeted it, Bandai just retweeted it. A literal gaming journalist organization is calling "skill issue" to the people complaining it's too hard. We've entered the upside down, now players are yelling about difficulty and rage-reviewing it online while journalists are no-lifing it and winning.
@@abramelbin5631his phase 2 is kinda busted and not fun. Oh and the Gaius charge hitbox, had to go light roll for that. Otherwise banger of a DLC. From definitely delivered.
elden ring is my first souls like game and i was able to beat most bosses in the main game without summons once i learned how to dodge and learned move sets. i think this dlc is amazing and i feel like i do need the summons so im having a great time fighting harder bosses with 3 people lol
No, it's not like that at all. Because when you don't use summons the bosses are straight up and possible, but when you do the bosses are so easy that I legitimately guarantee I could beat them with my monitor turned off using just sound they trivialize the boss so hard that a toddler could beat it. The problem is that there's no middle ground. There is no way for me to play this game and feel good about it. It's either impossible or baby mode
A better analogy would be that you either use only pawns (no summons), or now you get 20 moves per round (using summons), or some other ridiculous handicap. I don't play chess but you know what I'm getting at.
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Here’s the “the game is too hard” argument in a nutshell: 1. This game is popular in the culture 2. I want to be part of the culture, so I have to beat it and get internet points for it 3. It’s too hard and blowing my back out-I’m not having fun 4. I’m mad now because I feel like I’m missing out People are literally playing games now just to be a part of what’s “happening” instead of to genuinely have fun. I’m using the mimic tear and a broken build and having fun…: the literal whole point of playing games in the first place.
Me and my Zeus cosplay character are about to play the DLC for thr first time today. Hope I don't get my ass beat while spamming honed bolt and lightning spear
It's the streamer culture. I watched some people stream lies of p and they REFUSE to use items, throwables, or GOD FORBID summons. One even responded to me this "if I'm using summons what will my viewers think?" Like wtf?!. This false toxic pride is destroying gaming.
5. most of the bosses have attacks that spawn in a million particle effects and lag the game to an unplayable degree while blindly the player but you know go off
@@antepa112If you want to make it harder for yourself then you can, but it's going to be harder for you. You can absolutely use many builds in the dlc if you have enough blessings and are skilled enough Weaker weapons and skills in the meta = need more skill to beat the bosses. Always been like that, and while it's at its highest here, it's still just that
Elden ring is my first Souls game and I must say the community is puzzling at times. People say you cant use jump/stagger build, spells, bleed weapons, faith buffs, summons, etc etc or else you're cheesing the game. These same people will die on a boss 500 times and rage quit the game.
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2:18 THANK YOU somebody had to say it! like jeez I'm playing DLC without using Scadutree fragments and to be honest? I'm loving the challenge. thanks again for mentioning this MC! And I'd also like to address I played "Every From-soft Games" that they had to offer. I am a soul Vet as well from 2009 through 2024. and to be truly honest? I expected a lot of these challenges so nothing didn't surprise me at all how boss was programmed and how the AI of the battle play style was for them... Just be thankful that these game have checkpoints like the stake of Marika. because it these games were treated like old Nintendo games with certain amount continues and started you way over to very beginning? You for sure wouldn't play it. So, freaking relax and enjoy the challenges and enjoy the game. because game like souls are suppose to challenge your mental core on how to have quick muscle memory and style of play. and that's what make it fun. and you too will grow to play high intermediate games.
@superproduce Exactly. Lmao. These people aren't even playing the game. They can explore. It's the same thing when Elden Ring released originally. Can't beat tree sentinel or Margit? Go somewhere else? Explore? Level up? Lmao.
Play how you want and don’t let others convince you how you’re supposed to play. I personally don’t use summons because they make the game less fun for me, but if they’ll make it more fun for you then go ahead and do it
people threw big honking baby tantrums about margit at launch too until everyone figured this out. its kinda funny that everyone forgot and now we're doomed to repeat the same conversation again.
I agree with everything except for Scadutree fragments being "training wheels" Its literally the DLC's main progression system. Thats like saying levelling up your character / weapon is "training wheels" in the base game.
This! It’s supposed to be a passive power upgrade as you play the dlc, sure on the second play through you could technically rush all the locations but on the first one you won’t know them
I'm a bit confused by Charlie's criticism about mounted bosses. From my counting, there are only 3 in the whole dlc, with one being the base gams tree sentinel. Is he talking about gaius and putrescent only?
big agree for like 95% of this video but i think calling the scadutree fragments "training wheels" sorta just reinforces that gigamasochistic "i cant use any summons or powerups i have to play the pure way" mentality that permeates soulslike communities. especially because scadutree fragments are literally designed to be the leveling system of the dlc, so saying they're training wheels is like saying leveling up is training wheels lol
Hard-core fanbase not using the tools game provided (scudtree) didn't expect to see that in 2024.. then remembered these same reaction with Margit 1st encounter 😂
@@R3TR0J4Nthr point is that they could complete the original game with these challenges. The DLC suddenly being so hard that they can't complete a bit sized portion of the original game with the same challenges is d*mb.
@@JohnMarston-lo5qk It's as hard as you make it... I'm doing it RL1 and if you prep, it's possible, I spent 140 hours killing every named enemy in base game and I'm prepared to put my experience to use, lvl up or get gud is the name of the game
What a lot of people don’t get about Mimic Tear is that you can change your own loadout on a boss and the Mimic can get way stronger against a specific boss.
I’ve seen people mad the boss doesn’t Aggro the summon. They aren’t even upset about the power, they literally just want the AI to keep Aggro so they can spam spells or something.
@@AngstUrnacht Even with that the mimic just needs to land a few attacks and they have aggroe, or u can use the aggroe talisman summon mimic and then take it off. Even easier
Dude that is the one complaint I have, like all of them so far give you no time to summon, like the golden hippo, I literally summon then he has me in his mouth lol.
@@prithvisingh7347bruh I’m a full time medical student I don’t have the time to memorize each frame of an enemy’s move set and torture myself for hours. I still have fun regardless stop being an elitist it’s so played out at this point
@@prithvisingh7347 It's wild to me that some people can't just be happy about a new audience enjoying The world and gameplay without having to soak 9000 hours. I play FPS games almost exclusively This is my first RPG let alone my first from soft game so having that ability to ease in and then not summon on repeat playthroughs is incredibly helpful. If the hardcore community keeps this attitude up the games will die.
The final boss of this SOTE is so absolutely cracked that when I first watched them do a 16 hit combo at the speed of light that fully tracks movement I wasn't even mad, I just laughed and started using summons.
btw, little hard but I know of TWO questlines, that give you an NPC for the final boss. so you have the potential for two helpers not including your own spirit ash.
When Miyazaki said he wanted veterans to feel like they were playing Elden Ring for the first time again, he meant it.
Reminds me of when I fist bought tye game and got stuck on tree sentinel for 4 days and considered deleting the game but preserved been addicted ever since
It's honestly too easy .
And the repeat mobs from Vanilla that you can still one shot are a Lazy Filler Joke.
Absolutely. Making me feel like I’m playing DS1 again.
@@eno6712 did you watch the video? Play a weaker build, use less of your tools
@@eno6712 The militants literally take me exactly as many hits to kill as the new mesmer soldiers, although the stomp into underswing into overswing can get you killed real fast
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The Scadutree mechanic is similar to levels in the main game, it's not an extra helping hand, it's literally levels. Going without any Scadutree upgrade is like fighting bosses while being level 1.
Even more similar with golden seeds and sacred tears. who plays without them lol
Really? 😂 I've not used a single one....on a NG+8 character with 44 vitality getting one shot by trash mobs.
@@LogicallyKnot Yes. Enemies in the DLC scale with you no matter how high of a level you are. Go get those fragments!
Those players: Exploring is boring!!!
😂 not using any Scadutree like an OG on my very first souls game stop crying been rocking with Fromsoft since 97 armored core 1
I saw the title and went 'this is about Elden Ring DLC'
Same lol
Yo same
i saw the title and thought he was about to whip his shii out
I lowkey thought it was something gay
Y’know for the longest time I thought my brain worked in a unique way but every time I look in a comment section I see somebody replicate my exact thoughts. This situation isn’t a good example because even a person with a negative iq could guess what this video is about but does anybody know what I mean?
I’m too hard Charlie
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Prove it
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I completly suck at Souls games because I'm in my 60's and don't have the hand-eye coordination I once had. Having said that I beat the final boss on my second try. Because I collected the fragments and made myself into a tank using an OP build I came up with myself with lots of status effects. there are a 100 different easy ways to beat any Souls game with no effort if you use the mechanics and tools the game gives you
Nice job
Your hand-eye coordination might not be so bad after all! You know, everything is relative and maybe you should say "I am in my 60s but despite that I still have cat"s reflexes, get good, youngsters!!"
well the shield build is basically the anti endboss build because it completely trivializes him xD But gj nonetheless!
Wow
Well done sir. Unfortunately most players arent like you.
Jerma's playthrough is just him having a good time even when he can't beat the bosses. Dude summons the boys and enjoys it.
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Jerma is so real for that man, I only see him get mad at like carnival games or gambling
For real, like dude hes just there to enjoy the game. He doesn't care about how hard it is. Mambo is carrying lol.
As it should be. Fun is absolute in video games. Even Souls-likes are no exception.
Facts, i respect people who just play the game
" Elden ring is too easy, Fromsoft sold out for Mass market"
" Elden ring DLC is too hard, Fromsoft messed up"
Who tf said elden ring was too easy I wanna see the guy and look him in the eye
@ZiroWatt his name is HeyZeusHeresToast. He was a bloodborne speedrunner
@@dylanethridge6311 he is... the guy
Our ancestors live hard and terrible lives, the least thing we can do to celebrate what they sacrificed for is to challenge our easy lives is by playing hard video games. If you think that game is hard try living g during the ice age , snowflake
The duality of man.
The scadutree fragments remind me of the prayer beads in Sekiro. It’s essentially the same mechanic and I have no idea how people haven’t figured that out yet.
exactly, and people rate that game over all of the other souls games
There's a reason why so many are still maidenless
Yall calling it hard now. A month from now, "Final boss cleared, no damage, bo armor, stick"
Be like that one dude that slapped Malenia at level 1, a club, shield, and no armor
@@KazuIsGamingongbal
I've seen two guys that have already finished the whole DLC doing a no damage run. And I believe Dino who did a God run (No damage complete runs of all fromsoft games in a sequence) would've done it too.
There already are people doing no hit runs all over tik tok
That already exists lol
I am way too terminally online I knew what the video was about from the title lmao
Same
My parents said if I hit 30k they'd buy me a professional camera begging you guys literally begging!!!😢❤😢
@@p-__That's why you'll never find love.
Yeah....
Same lmfao
One of the first lessons in Elden Ring, taught by the Tree Sentinel, is explore first and come back later, but a lot of people seem to have forgotten
Nah, they just have that cringe "SOLO ONLY" mentality. They can't fathom the idea that this ISN'T dark souls and is literally designed to be played with all of the mechanics, But nah, keep screaming and breaking your controller because you refuse to play the game the way it was intended lol.
Armor, protection talismans, and shields. Make so much of a difference in the DLC. I feel like everyone forgot about how good defense is. I haven’t seen a streamer yet who complained use any kind of defense. Of course you get one shot wearing a light set of armor
Agreed ima souls vet, not amazing at the game but decent but found every aspect of this dlc more then fair and enjoyable, reckon 3 bosses away from final
that's why they need to let us use the looks of whatever armor set we want with the stats of another armor
@@erikvandyk7006How you finding that final boss?
Armour makes no difference in this game
@@Waves2299 Yes it does, It's not a HUGE difference, but if you really tested it, You would find that you're surviving the usual killing blows with a little bit of health left. Which is the intended design, Armor saves your life, but not by much, But can be the difference between dead boss or dead player. I definitely see why you think that, but as a fromsoft vet, it DOES help, just not the way it does in most games like it. You're mostly getting buff defences against various damage types, like bleed, Fire, etc. But physical defence DOES indeed help
Calling in other players to help me with a boss and then throwing my sign down after it’s beat to help the next players are some of my best memories from all the souls games.
god, yeah. i sat in front of nameless king and midir in DS3 for hours upon hours as a sunbro helping people and it was so fun.
I do the same
EXACTLY!
The summoning on the dlc is completely broken right now
FOR REAL!
Genuinely, ignoring the “souls stigma” of no summons/shields/magic/whatever has made my experience so much better, it’s a video game, the only thing that matters is enjoying the experience
But using summins/shields/magic you just then playing shit game, that's why we shame people using this. Using those you playing easier gameb than assassins creed.
Womp womp lil bro😂@@robhans5
@@robhans5Lol
@@robhans5bro really orders a steak at a restaurant, licks the crust and then says it's actually shitty to eat the whole steak 💀 my guy, people paid money for the game's content, they're gonna use as much of the game's content as they can, you sound like one of the people musashi miyamoto killed because he "didn't fight fair"
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Penguinz0: “You either die as a gamer or live long enough to see yourself becoming a journalist”.
Ali: I loved that quote, you make the Green Goblin proud.
Coming in with an update; if Adriana Chechik can first try the storm lion, ITS NOT HARD
Hard, eh...
Scadutree Fragments are definitely NOT training wheels, it’s the main progression of the DLC.
It’s the equivalent of weapon upgrades. Can you skip them? Yes. Will you deal far less damage? Yes. Can you still beat it without them? Yes. Simple as that
Someone said its like doing a soul level one challenge if you dont do them also. Leveling your character and weapon is the easy mode of souls. Why people do those challenges because that want it to be more difficult.
Yeah, Charlie did more damage than me during the fight against mesmer, and I used 8 of the scadutree (no summon or magic build just two uchigatanas).
They are training wheels, cope you scrub
Yeah this was a pretty common dumb take by him
Essentially it boils down to "use the game mechanics as intended" or "challenge yourself" if you're going to purposely challenge yourself then you lose all rights to complain about the difficulty cause you're doing it to yourself.
Remember kids, if you're bad at a game, it's a "skill issue." But, if I'm bad at a game, it's "artifical difficulty."
People just be saying anything is artificial difficulty im not even sure they know what it means
I do think there is artificial difficult in base game (havnt played the dlc probably wont. i prefer bloodborne) with malenia and the end game bosses, i.e. input reading, speed of combos, no windows to attack. I beat all the main game bosses, but I think because there is A: an open world to level easily and B: very strong builds/ weapons. if you dont go into either A and B the game is very artificially hard. I never used summons co op or mimic but the game was horribly hard due to the way I wanted to play. (I wanted to do a guts build because it looked cool sue me). I really do think theres something to that. Why cant some people play the way they want to play?
I really don’t understand why is it difficult because the mobs and and bosses have a big ass hp bar yes. They knew from the beginning that dlc will be hard that’s why they implemented the summons plus I never saw a streamer youtubers using pots or grease and other things they use the a cheese tactic and blame the game for being to easy… Miyazaki didn’t like it because it was to easy so he made a dlc that put even veterans on a scare once more
Tbh until I got scadotree fragments I was dieing from 1 hit on everything (80 Vigor) and thought it was artificial difficulty (but I didn’t mind because before beating the game I never leveled Vigor because I wanted true skill)
Artificial difficulty is the same enemy but with more health and damage. You see this in recycled bosses, and it's fine every so often. It's not fine for a whole game/ expansion, so.... This DLC is perfectly fine actually, because the bosses are pretty unique and not artificially difficult
DLC drops and everyone thinks they’re a challenge runner
L2 gamers when the boss dosen't die in 7 moonveil beams
Pro-tip - Taker's Flame is still as broken as ever
is moonveil still viable? Im using hand of malenia and keen uchigatana
@@GorehowlBeardheadapparently it doesn't send malenia flying anymore
@@junoperberry take everything i say with a grain of salt cause i'm ass at elden ring but it does good staggers for melania, but i personally couldn't beat her with it. i used dark moon greatsword (before learning it's considered a "cheese build" - still don't really know what that is) and ranni's dark moon to get the frostbite on her and it's significantly better than moonveil.
@@junoperberry yeah confirmed it doesn't knock her in the air, but with that health on hit it doesn't need to :')
" When I went to the Ballcrusher 9000, I didn't think it would crush my balls! 0/10 would not recommend"
Too true lmao
I was expecting to get tickled but my twig n berries got crushed. Gonna leave a negative steam reveiw, that'll show them. I suck and it's all their fault
“the girth is impressive” thats how i will be describing anything now
All the while they are using talismans that lower your damage negation
mfs wearing marikas soreseal
“You can subscribe to the ancient belief system, Get Gud” lmfao
*Git Gud
@@sirornsteindefinitely git gud
Literally half the community hates the current path they are taking with the story telling sending you straight to renala and messmir that are literally late game. RINGS ANY BELLS? (Marget?) Remember him? When you were follwing the grace path they literally fucs you over by sending you to a boss your not supposed to be doing?
No one gives any real critasim. An hashinshin literally states all this year's back am look what happened now its fuced.
Maybe lock some of the content your not supposed to do yet. Until you reached level then have the npc's gave u a clear distination and path to the promissed content.
But they trick you with the marget boss with the grace path. Who tf gonna follow that path again in the dlc?
Other than that have some dashes instead of stupid arce looking barrel rollls 80 times during aa boss fight.
Great game otherwise thank you.
😂😂
"Commander Gaius, Hog Rider" sounds like when the Elden Ring subreddit was making up fake lore in the leadup to the base game's release 😂
"Hog rider" The first redditor boss
I can't stand that fight, it's the only boss I haven't beaten aside from Messmer. That fucking pig man, it's satan incarnate
I would make fun of the idea of having a the final boss be an actual boss in the dlc
He’s a legend 😊
Gayus is the hardest boss I’ve ever had to fight bro. He is genuinely a terrible boss you can summon your mimic and he is already running you down straight down the fog. If you miss the mini dodge window your cooked and stun locked. The other bosses aren’t that bad there are some bosses that are a little hard, but bro he actually needs some fixes
I agree with Gaius, just the head swiping one can be dodge by rolling *left, right, left, right*
The charge on Gaius, yes. The head throw, I dodge every time. You just have to dodge into the attack.
I would even argue that scadutree fragments aren’t even training wheels. They’re essentially a new leveling system only within the dlc. Scadutree Levels 1-20. Most of the people getting fucked on are probably unbelievably “under-leveled” within the context of the dlc.
I’ve done the scaturtree thing twice and have beaten Rellana. Took about 15 damned times but got it done lol. That damned twin moon attack made me a little erect. I don’t know how many scaturtree fragments I’m supposed to collect before she got easier.
To be fair as long as you can dodge well it doesn't really matter I beat Mesmer in like maximum 10 tries at fragment level like 4 and it wasn't hard with this being my first souls like so I'm sure more experienced players would be fine
@@thesinaclwonI think that’s how many your supposed to have? I don’t know. I saw the moon attack once and said “Nope never again” and switched to a weapon that could stun lock them.
That shouldn’t even be an argument. It was put into the game like golden seeds and tears in the main game. It’s a natural and steady way to make sure players characters can keep up with the stronger enemies as you progress through the game.
Can’t tell you how many winers are 250+ on some NG+ level and think they can ignore the DLC function we knew about FOR MONTHS. Plus, why would From add spirit buffs as a major mechanic if you’re not supposed to use them? Bird brains.
When the boss cheese you, you are legally allowed to cheese it back
just finished rellana today. I don't personally use summons or tears nor debuffs on my greatsword and it does feel like I'm underleveled. I feel like at some point you get a moment of clarity and the bosses (only gone through Lion and Rellana for now) become very doable and you trade on attacks you thought were too risky to take),
Bosses don't cheese you, if you can dodge it, it's always fair. With the exception of Nihil you can dodge EVERY attack in this game
And you're not cheesing the game for using summons and the other mechanics the game presents to you, you're cheesing if you search builds for oneshotting bosses, like a quality greatbow build with Radahn's Rain and a long buff routine before the fight, and even so, it's still fine to use it if you want to
@@ArtorioVideojogosMalenia stagger cancelling into waterfowl is not “fair” idc how many summons or op spells you use.
If you gotta cheese a boss. That's not good boss design.
@@justifano7046 They decided to make the bosses reward on patience and you have to really figure out attack patterns moreso then any game or dlc they've made before. Which in concept is fine but I feel that the way the executed it just made the bosses not fun for me. I didn't really struggle either but I just wasn't having fun fighting anything because it just feels annoying to fight most of the bosses.
i saw the title and thought this video was another “i told her i ran out of mana”
"that's what she said!" - michael scott
“I’ve played all souls like games in the genre”
IronPineapple: Hold my beer
Glad someone else caught that haha
"hold my Estus"
@@smygulf lol that’s better
This guy made me play a lot of indie goodies that I really enjoyed. Cannot thank the guy enough.
*cue the intro music
“I’m angry”
“Here’s a summon”
“I dont want a summon”
“I want to be angry”
Fr
It's even worse because there's a million diff things than summoning. DLC has tight weapons, skills for those weapons, crafting is now worthwhile, etc. Most normal players are getting on with the game while a handful of try hard streamers cry lol
Literally 95% of fromsoft fans it's crazy ( I say this having played 6/7 of the fromsoft soulslike games ) *I refuse to use mechanic* *game is difficult* *>:(*
The problem I see with summons is that they don't fix most - if not any - inherent issues of bosses, like shitty windups, bloated damage, rollcatching and input reading. All summons do is make the boss' problems less unbearable by having you tackle them less often due to split aggro, but the moment the boss turns to you, every single problem the summon was having is still there and about to slap you in the face. I remember fighting this one boss on a tiny island behind a castle to the south of the map, and I just really wasn't vibing with the fight; eventually I just said "fuck it", summoned a stupid jellyfish with incredibly bloated health and the fight went from 100 to 0, essentially making the fight go from too hard to too easy - that's awful design.
@@maxwellsterling So... Because you can't read a boss it's shitty? Lol
"Summonless"
*Rahdon has entered the chat*
"Punch only"
*Rykard has entered the chat*
You can still fight withouth summon on radhan, and, altough infuriating because of the lave pool, you can still punch the shit out of rykard.
@@Kebin13 I know I'm just saying that because Charlie used summons to beat meteor man and used serpent spear on his punch only tun
@@DrsteezymcgeeI mean that's pretty understandable. At some point it's just super unfun to do things in those runs more than it is difficult
@@EclipsingMomentum I know, it's more of a meme than anything. It just pops in my head when he says he does everything summonless or punch only
There's also a bug where the scadutree frament pot enemies are disappearing and they never come back
The scadutree fragments aren’t training wheels, you’re literally expected to use them because the bosses are scaled up. If you don’t grab them you’re just gonna be one shot by everything
Same with summons.
Summoning an NPC increases the bosses health by 60% and some of these idiots call it easy mode
That's what got me too when he said that. It's the leveling system in the dlc like runes.
i have maxed them out and beat the dlc and I promise you that shit is placebo. Bosses still take half your health per hit at max, only thing that changes is the overworld mobs are easier.
Everyone, the Scadutree fragments are definitely intentional - it’s pulled from Sekiro.
The Scadutree fragments leveling system was introduced so that you can’t use your old level 700 character, and immediately curb-stomp everything in the DLC.
@@AndrewRyan-zv7zb spirit ashes dont hehe
The DLC situation has gotten so bad that when I saw the title I immediately knew what was going on.
lol same, its cuz of people like asmon
@@jaswanthvardireddy2243100% Asmon the voice of this, is pathetic. And I’m pretty sure Charlie knows and is not afraid to go to war against Asmon about this topic. Asmon is acting very bitch like about this DLC
@@jaswanthvardireddy2243 to his credit, he changed his build and is back at it
Yeah me too lol this has a lot of people with mix feelings. But I seeing a lot more positive than negative
Same hehe
The health the bosses have without all the fragments is actually wack af, not very fun chipping away at like 30k health when my great swords hitting like a pool noodle
Battle toad:they complaing again
Elden ring:yep
People quickly forget what made a Souls game challenging and rewarding. Difficulty and struggling through obstacles are part of the appeal.
scadutree fragments are NOT training wheels. They're just as necessary as levelling up in the base game..
Yeah thats the only thing I disagreed with, its legit just the progression system for the DLC and its necessary, also doesnt help much.
Yeah, the fragments were to debuff overleveled players so they couldn't just steamroll the whole DLC without putting in some work. It's a bonus extra hard mode if anything if you choose to not get the seeds.
Charles IQ has fallen off a cliff since he started frequenting twitter a few years ago
Same here I agree they are necessary to have and use
Soooo... also unnecessary? imagine not doing hitless no damage all bosses with +0 weapons rl1 blindfolded. fake souls players smh
"It's only a game, I dunno why you get mad" that one hockey guy years ago.
Lies of P prepared me lol. Loved it.
Bandai telling people on twitter go get good was the funniest thing I’ve seen
To be fair a few people who reviewd the game negatively that i spoke to had no idea what scadutree blessing was
@@SnakeEater776There’s a pop-up tutorial that explains what they are when you enter the DLC
@@SnakeEater776 Well honestly I find that hard to believe considering there's Scadutree fragments at very important locations and a whole new menu appears at the grace points
@@SnakeEater776if you say so pal
@@bologna2644 Exactly. The game doesn't spell out where/what golden seeds are or sacred tears, you have to actually get off your ass and find them to get that information. Same with the Scadutree and whatnot. Game doesn't handhold you. People loved that, and now they hate it because they're not as gud as they thought they were
2022: People complain about how this game is too easy and unbalanced.
2024: People complain about how this game is too hard and unbalanced.
Yes mate, you can go too far in both extremes. What people as for is the golden ratio between those two.
It's stupid that the boss attacks you the INSTANT you enter the arena.
Why is it stupid
@@toshtao1 don't go in the arena if ur not ready then
The real problem is that bosses like rellana would be perfect on Sekiro, but on this game u basically have to press circle for the entire fight and attack every 5 minutes, not to mention the framerate which is an added difficulty
"you either die a gamer or live to see yourself become a journalist." is fuckin great
Hit boxes is one of the issues I’ve seen. Would like to see a bit more enemies in these big open areas, some of the areas are to empty.
There’s a whole mechanism dedicated to upgrading your summon. Not everyone is a hardcore gamer, just have fun according to your level.
Yeah especially if you are playing in new game + its extremely easy to upgrade your summons, weapons, and character level to make the game as easy as you need it to be. Playing on New game + you get massive amounts of runes (anywhere from 2X to 5X the amount of rune drops), so you can quickly just upgrade your character until you can beat the boss.
Why do people not understand that this expansion is meant for the veterans with ultimate builds they've cultivated throughout the last two years to test them out against the hardest bosses From Soft has to offer? This is the last hurrah for Elden Ring, you're not going to zoom through it in a weekend.
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yeah that turns it into a pretty black and white experience for me personally - use mimic and play on adventure mode or dont use mimic and play on the hardest difficulty there is
the problem with that is is that you get toxic gatekeepers telling you "well you didn't REALLY beat the game if you use (summon/magic/bleed/etc etc)" so it deters people from using things that would help them beat the fight. or you have people telling you how much of a massive idiot baby you are for not being able to beat a boss and just "lmao git gud scrub".
The Scadutree fragments are the intended gameplay mechanic to allow all players to start the DLC on an equal level. They want you to explore the map and come back to fights later if you arent able to do it right away, like how Margitt teaches new players to go away and lvl up in the base game
Eh. While I haven't delved into the DLC yet, I beat Margitt as a Wretch with only a club. You can learn any fight as long as there aren't unavoidable moves.
Yeah the dancing lion is destroying me, so I was thinking of finding some fragments and then return, literally no reason to torture yourself its about taking your time.
See, that isn't what I learned from Margitt. What I learned from Margitt is that I have more lives than him and if I'm stubborn enough anything can be killed
Except a lot of the map is fucking empty space.
It's 4% more attack and 2% damage reduction per level too. So even at blessing level 3/4 the differences should be fairly noticeable. At max level(20) you get almost double attack and half damage from these fragments.
5:37 i see now... i was trying to understand the dodge timing for it and your absolutely right the hitbox is definitely bugged.
I don't remember where I heard it but the DLC is trying to show that dodging is not the only way to avoid damage.
From using shields to block (even the medium ones especially with barricade), to parrying. Even some ashes of war help with quickstep or bloodhound step if your feeling spicy or Indomiable Oath (?) Where you just get a second of invulnerability (which is a little more than twice as long as a dodge's I-frames) on activation. Even jumping is surprisingly useful in both the base game an DLC.
"Too hard to be fun"
- Asmongold rushing through the DLC with the Fingerprint Shield 😂
O7
Tbf Shields are braindead
His flasks aren't even maxed lol.
Common Asmongold L take
he also has dead rats in his room so who cares what he thinks
Using a summon doesn’t even mean you’re trash, it’s a tool in the game. These are the same people that will apply 5 buffs and use a fully upgraded weapon the boss is weak to.
The logic never adds up
The logic there is that summons take away aggro drastically making the fight easier while buffing just adds more damage / less damage taken. Golden vow isn't suddenly going to make you win the fight but a mimic tear can carry you. That said use whatever you want it's supposed to be fun.
No lie, after being more of a experienced souls gamer i refuse to use cheesy summons aka black knife mimic, however i do use stormhawk just to see the moves of the boss then I get the hang of it a lot quicker it is a great enough tool.
@@bryanmichimani3784 I love using the soljars of fortune because they're my little pot buddies even though they pretty much do nothing
@@SunlightPrince that’s cute, wait would it be an ultimate anime rage moment if you use the new talisman after the spirits pass? I wonder if it stacks when you have more than one summon
I’ve noticed with the bosses still target you more rather than the summon. From the base game to the DLC I feel like the summons dont agro like they used to.
Preach! Use those summons!
I’m actually not sure what the DLC difficulty is supposed to be. Because I’m halfway through it on my new game plus character from the original. I’m not sure if it carries over because it seems like no one else has done this. But It took 7 SD fragments for me to actually start doing damage
Only thing harder than the DLC for Asmongold is cleaning his room & showering
Ong he looks like he smells like a mixture of moldy cheese and pennies
or being decent human in general .
Why bring asmongold up?
he's such garbage lol
Yeah, he "stinks" kekw
I'm disabled and find the DLC awesome. Yeah it kicks my butt, but no other game company has made me feel more proud of myself for going beyond my limitations and adapting to what I can't improve.
I have pain, my hands don't work like everyone else's, and brain issues.. I am having a great time.
And I didn't need anyone to help me with Moggy, no one was there to summon. I grabbed the two sisters, used the spank trinket on him, the phys that nullifies his nihil tantrum, and tried over and over different tactics. I got mad, I got frustrated, but then the feeling of killing Moggy was glorious.
Anyways, just take your time. Go to the farming place (I'll let you find it!) In the main game and make sure to try different weapons and armor and ashes etc. Level up your Mimic Tear and Tiche. Google what you're finding hard and people will have tips. It's a new DLC do it's not going to be chocablocky yet but soon.
No performance problems yet for me - ps4 pro - it is a great DLC so far.
And of course, kiss the Turtle Pope.
Can’t agree more. Especially on not being able to summon anybody for Mohg. Honestly was a lot more satisfying to beat him on my own anyways
This is what gaming has always been about. Love this! :)
way to go, happy you're enjoying this even with the extra challenges life threw your way. True Elden Lord right here yall. Likely hero, therefore praise the good vibes.
😂😂😂
Imagine last gen gaming 4 years after new Gen released
I also noticed through my gameplay and watching others that the hit boxes on the golden hippo, lion puppet and giaus aren't there sometimes when you're hitting their back-side. Like my weapon will just go straight through them sometimes. So it's like it's there sometimes and not other times. Seem like an error in the code they need to patch up.
Journalist: "The game is too hard"
Speedrunners: "Hold my mountain dew"
I saw bandai namco usa tweeted “this is a sign to get those scadutree fragments up” and so many were mad at them lol
Are you ready for this to get funnier?
IGN tweeted it, Bandai just retweeted it. A literal gaming journalist organization is calling "skill issue" to the people complaining it's too hard.
We've entered the upside down, now players are yelling about difficulty and rage-reviewing it online while journalists are no-lifing it and winning.
@@sunn7615We've entered the land of shadow irl lol
@@sunn7615 Yep, it's been the media that has given SOTE glowing reviews across the board. Never thought I'd see something like this occur haha.
I havent really noticed any difference between 0 scadutree fragments and being +8 right now.
@@garrettwilson9664 look at your attack power in and out of the dlc area in the attributes page
I like to imagine Malenia being the drill seargent for all the dlc bosses yelling at them to all be faster and do more damage
Not the final guy, though.
She's got no room to whip him into shape.
Don't forget "steal their health-bar! their health is yours!"
@@abramelbin5631 The boss versus boss fights would like to have a word with you. Malenia still comes out on top fighting Rellana and CR.
Malenia is still harder imo
@@abramelbin5631his phase 2 is kinda busted and not fun. Oh and the Gaius charge hitbox, had to go light roll for that. Otherwise banger of a DLC. From definitely delivered.
The only hard thing is having 2 people to help you and the boss has extra HP. So it takes longer and someone ends up dying by 2 shots lol
Those built in systems make new game 7 equal new game 1 with no summons. Been rough
Not using the resources that the game gives you is like playing chess, while only using the pawns and then complaining that it’s too hard
elden ring is my first souls like game and i was able to beat most bosses in the main game without summons once i learned how to dodge and learned move sets. i think this dlc is amazing and i feel like i do need the summons so im having a great time fighting harder bosses with 3 people lol
Nah it's much closer to playing chess and "well sorry you didn't do this specific advance made by xyz, so suck it"
No, it's not like that at all. Because when you don't use summons the bosses are straight up and possible, but when you do the bosses are so easy that I legitimately guarantee I could beat them with my monitor turned off using just sound they trivialize the boss so hard that a toddler could beat it. The problem is that there's no middle ground. There is no way for me to play this game and feel good about it. It's either impossible or baby mode
A better analogy would be that you either use only pawns (no summons), or now you get 20 moves per round (using summons), or some other ridiculous handicap. I don't play chess but you know what I'm getting at.
Any excuse for baby mode right?
The real boss battle is these "gamers" overcoming their 70 foot tall ego
😂FACTS
Sounds like that wont be a problem for long, considering the bosses are cutting those egos down to knee height like lumberjacks.
erm actchually wise guy mine is like 97.8976 feet tall. 🤓(im joking plz don't kill me)
Amen.
Gamers playing a advanced form of memory.
I didn't have any problems with Messmer's phase 2 hitboxes lol
Dearest Miquella. You must abide alone a while. Welcome, honored guest. To the birthplace of our dynasty. Trēs, duo, ūnus, Nihil!, Nihil!, NIHIL!!!. Miquella is mine and mine alone
Here’s the “the game is too hard” argument in a nutshell:
1. This game is popular in the culture
2. I want to be part of the culture, so I have to beat it and get internet points for it
3. It’s too hard and blowing my back out-I’m not having fun
4. I’m mad now because I feel like I’m missing out
People are literally playing games now just to be a part of what’s “happening” instead of to genuinely have fun. I’m using the mimic tear and a broken build and having fun…: the literal whole point of playing games in the first place.
Me and my Zeus cosplay character are about to play the DLC for thr first time today.
Hope I don't get my ass beat while spamming honed bolt and lightning spear
It's the streamer culture. I watched some people stream lies of p and they REFUSE to use items, throwables, or GOD FORBID summons. One even responded to me this "if I'm using summons what will my viewers think?" Like wtf?!. This false toxic pride is destroying gaming.
5. most of the bosses have attacks that spawn in a million particle effects and lag the game to an unplayable degree while blindly the player but you know go off
@@ssdeaglez neckbeard that is all
@Xeno455 me but I'm a lightning crusader
"GRR THE DLC IS TOO HARD"
*sees someone with a op strength build*
"HEY DON'T DO THAT! THATS CHEESE!"
If you have played these games for long and are still forced to summon and google meta builds after dying 50 times then yes, it's badly designed.
@@antepa112 Just get good.
@@antepa112 Git gud gay
@@antepa112If you want to make it harder for yourself then you can, but it's going to be harder for you. You can absolutely use many builds in the dlc if you have enough blessings and are skilled enough
Weaker weapons and skills in the meta = need more skill to beat the bosses. Always been like that, and while it's at its highest here, it's still just that
@@antepa112no, you are.
Just use lightning purfume bottles with rolling spark aow and the dlc is cake lmao
Elden ring is my first Souls game and I must say the community is puzzling at times. People say you cant use jump/stagger build, spells, bleed weapons, faith buffs, summons, etc etc or else you're cheesing the game. These same people will die on a boss 500 times and rage quit the game.
Even Kai Cenat said "Put your big boy pants on"
Kai is trash, go cry about it 😂😂😂😂
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That speaks volumes
@@xaf943 😦
@@xaf943unhinged asf there sir
“People don’t like to run and randomly kill things and explore” - the guy that played WoW for 7639 years.
You mean anemic Moist Critical?
@@andrewpresley8676 or the guy who never cleans his room lol that loser?
you talm bout asmongold? 😭😭@@LuisZepeda2318
@@LuisZepeda2318i love how peopleeven if they dont know nothing about him, like literally have no idea, make fun of him for his room. I mean that genuinely, dude needs to finally clean his room
Btw i recommend actually checking his stuff out, either to be a more accurate haider or to see that this dude is a human reasoning machine
why do I see u on every charlie video
2:18 THANK YOU somebody had to say it! like jeez I'm playing DLC without using Scadutree fragments and to be honest? I'm loving the challenge.
thanks again for mentioning this MC!
And I'd also like to address I played "Every From-soft Games" that they had to offer. I am a soul Vet as well from 2009 through 2024. and to be truly honest? I expected a lot of these challenges so nothing didn't surprise me at all how boss was programmed and how the AI of the battle play style was for them...
Just be thankful that these game have checkpoints like the stake of Marika. because it these games were treated like old Nintendo games with certain amount continues and started you way over to very beginning? You for sure wouldn't play it.
So, freaking relax and enjoy the challenges and enjoy the game.
because game like souls are suppose to challenge your mental core on how to have quick muscle memory and style of play.
and that's what make it fun. and you too will grow to play high intermediate games.
the wretch comment 😭😭😭
The "shield boys" summon makes a mockery of most bosses in the dlc
The nightmare of being too scared to use summons because people will yell at me for using intended game mechanics
Summone won’t even work to bruh I use the black knife and gets killed so fast and it’s maxed out like summons get clapped so fast
Tell them to go touch grass. Have fun with the game.
@@mr.official_isaac9use revered spirit ash
@superproduce Exactly. Lmao. These people aren't even playing the game. They can explore. It's the same thing when Elden Ring released originally. Can't beat tree sentinel or Margit? Go somewhere else? Explore? Level up? Lmao.
Play how you want and don’t let others convince you how you’re supposed to play. I personally don’t use summons because they make the game less fun for me, but if they’ll make it more fun for you then go ahead and do it
The base game had you explore and level up to beat the bosses as well.
Margit straight out of the gate was hard as hell.
Nah. Skeleton army summon :D
people threw big honking baby tantrums about margit at launch too until everyone figured this out. its kinda funny that everyone forgot and now we're doomed to repeat the same conversation again.
They're definitely granny-shifting
I remember when this same outrage was centered around “Gooning Simulator 4’s DLC: Blacked!”
I agree with everything except for Scadutree fragments being "training wheels" Its literally the DLC's main progression system. Thats like saying levelling up your character / weapon is "training wheels" in the base game.
People who finish it with SL 1 would call them that xD
You shouldn't be ashamed because you beat the game using training wheels
@@felygu9268Cr1tikal didnt do sl1 lmao
Exactly people don't understand you are SUPPOSED to use the leveling system to beat the DLC.
This! It’s supposed to be a passive power upgrade as you play the dlc, sure on the second play through you could technically rush all the locations but on the first one you won’t know them
It's like ordering hot wings, then complaining that your hot wings are too hot.
More like ordering hot wings but being given suicide wings. Bit of a difference.
And then you didn’t use the ranch or the glass of milk they gave you to help with the spiciness.
Nah it just sucks
To the people that genuinely think it's too hard for them, it'd be like ordering mild wings and getting extra spicy instead 😂
😂
I'm a bit confused by Charlie's criticism about mounted bosses. From my counting, there are only 3 in the whole dlc, with one being the base gams tree sentinel. Is he talking about gaius and putrescent only?
big agree for like 95% of this video but i think calling the scadutree fragments "training wheels" sorta just reinforces that gigamasochistic "i cant use any summons or powerups i have to play the pure way" mentality that permeates soulslike communities. especially because scadutree fragments are literally designed to be the leveling system of the dlc, so saying they're training wheels is like saying leveling up is training wheels lol
Fromsoft somehow in 2024 managed to re-ignite the original Soulslike Debate. Kudos
Hard-core fanbase not using the tools game provided (scudtree) didn't expect to see that in 2024.. then remembered these same reaction with Margit 1st encounter 😂
Making it hard doesn't make it special. It's just lazy. Anyone could make any game hard.
@@R3TR0J4Nthr point is that they could complete the original game with these challenges. The DLC suddenly being so hard that they can't complete a bit sized portion of the original game with the same challenges is d*mb.
@@JohnMarston-lo5qkhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahha hard disagree
@@JohnMarston-lo5qk It's as hard as you make it... I'm doing it RL1 and if you prep, it's possible, I spent 140 hours killing every named enemy in base game and I'm prepared to put my experience to use, lvl up or get gud is the name of the game
Everyone: it's too hard.
Ongbal: watch this...
Bruh, he already made vids. Dang lol
@@Gandhi_Physique there someone else , i don't remember their name, but their dancing again rellana is beautiful to witness
I almost expect LMSH to make a return for Messmer or something lol
Ymfah just fucks off without input for walking in any game tho
He has already streamed helping people with messmer@@FrankJaeger803
I truly hope the devs release a 5 second statement that’s just, “get gewd.”
Punch and kick build is crazy, I’m new to Elden ring and struggle with a maxed character 😂
What a lot of people don’t get about Mimic Tear is that you can change your own loadout on a boss and the Mimic can get way stronger against a specific boss.
Mimic tear level 10 is way stronger than your character.
@@teknoid5878 At least tankier
Also don't give the mimic too many tools to use. Give them like three things and they're a boss, lol.
I’ve seen people mad the boss doesn’t Aggro the summon. They aren’t even upset about the power, they literally just want the AI to keep Aggro so they can spam spells or something.
@@AngstUrnacht Even with that the mimic just needs to land a few attacks and they have aggroe, or u can use the aggroe talisman summon mimic and then take it off. Even easier
My wife threatened to leave me if I don’t beat every DLC boss with no summons or spirit ashes.
o7
That’s ok you can get a real man to beat the game for her while you watch
I suppose you’re soon to be Maidenless
So the only option there is to use all the summons and spirit ashes, right?
- an NTR hentai original
When you are crying when you die 7 times to a boss and not over 1000 times is just skill issue😂
Cant believe Miyzaki added the godskin quartent 😭
My only thing is that, alot of these bosses are on you the second you walk through the fog, you dont even time to summon ashes before you take damage
Dude that is the one complaint I have, like all of them so far give you no time to summon, like the golden hippo, I literally summon then he has me in his mouth lol.
Yes 100%. One of the ways I have kind of dealt with this is waiting for the opening in an attack pattern and instead of hitting the boss summoning.
Using summon to beat bosses😂 do u let or wife’s boyfriends stay over sometimes? 😂😂
@@prithvisingh7347bruh I’m a full time medical student I don’t have the time to memorize each frame of an enemy’s move set and torture myself for hours. I still have fun regardless stop being an elitist it’s so played out at this point
@@prithvisingh7347 It's wild to me that some people can't just be happy about a new audience enjoying The world and gameplay without having to soak 9000 hours. I play FPS games almost exclusively This is my first RPG let alone my first from soft game so having that ability to ease in and then not summon on repeat playthroughs is incredibly helpful. If the hardcore community keeps this attitude up the games will die.
The final boss of this SOTE is so absolutely cracked that when I first watched them do a 16 hit combo at the speed of light that fully tracks movement I wasn't even mad, I just laughed and started using summons.
real
W for not spoiling the boss with this comment
i mean he pretty much did the same shit 😭
btw, little hard but I know of TWO questlines, that give you an NPC for the final boss. so you have the potential for two helpers not including your own spirit ash.
They also help with the fight right before the final boss if you have them, which is very helpful.
It's hard as hell, but that's the challenge, and the reward is even grander
Shamelessly summoned for Rannala dude gave me the work