Why Daiwa is Better Than Shimano
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- Shimano has always seemed to be the majority favorite fishing reel brand, but I'm here to explain how and why Daiwa is better.
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People really telling me penn is better than both shimano and daiwa 😂
Shakespeare Is by far the highest quality reel bro!
That's because they are
@@Jessewrightfishing hi jesse ily
The spinfisher vi 2000s are beasts
For the money they definitely are, no spinner better than a slammer 3 by any brand besides the saltigas and Stella's, but they are double or triple the price of slammers, and with daiwa releasing the bg mq with a zinc gear for around $200 and Penn putting stainless steel and brass gears in their new battle 3s around $150, I'd say Penn is better than both, but I definitely agree daiwa is better than shimano. Saltigas are the goat.
I own Daiwa and Shimano reels love them both. 2 top companies competing with each other is good for fishermen
This boy knows nothing, comparing SW reels vs Finesse reels, not even a technical argumento , no nothing , lmao
#TeamDaiwa
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bro he tells that in shimano you can only get good reels when you spend 200 to 300$, is he gone mad? He is still living in 19century...lol. you have good reels starting from 20$
lol I was thinking the same right when I start hearing like the 3rd comparison, he’s putting a all aluminum rigid reel against a finesse 😂
For the "budget" level reels that I am looking at,
- Daiwa are made in Vietnam
- Shimano are made in Malasyia
I live in Japan and everyone here knows Shimano is king. I do agree dawia is cheaper but like the saying goes, you get what you pay for. 1. Shimano 2. Dawia.
Like Daiwa putting zinc gears in $200 reels. Daiwa reels under $250 are trash.
Except Daiwa has a 700 rod and a 600 reel, does Shimano have something that nice?
@@rickyrodriguez9831 have you heard of the Shimano Stella? Don’t get me wrong I like the pricier Daiwas.
@@rickyrodriguez9831 They do, in fact. Search for the Shimano Poison Ultima rod and the Shimano 21 Antares DC reel.
@@andizgarta6773 that rod is a collab with jackall
Man you are absolutely not right. Nasci and Sahara are same real but Nasci have water proof seals nothing more. And you say "Sahara is trash and Nasci is one of the best real"
Make little bit research before make videos like this.
Fun fact: A 2021 survey from Japan shows that 70% of Japanese fishermen use Shimano gear. Shimano is a much older and more experienced brand, and overall they're reels are much more refined and smooth. However, Daiwa has come up with wome really nice models those past few years. Shimano remains king in Japan though.
Just because a company has been around longer, doesn't mean it's better. Shimano reels are overrated, overpriced junk. The older shimano reels from the 80s, 90s, and mid 2000s were great. Now they cut corners and raise the price. They use plastic spool supports on most of the spinning reels. I had a shimano sahara a few years ago that got stiff after 5 months of freshwater use. My 40 dollar pflueger trion reel still runs fine after 6 years.
Daiwa has been making reels longer than shimano look it up
For one Daiwa has been making reels for far longer, shimano as a company itself has been around much longer than Daiwa because they make bikes too, and while it’s true the reels are pretty popular Daiwa rods are king in Japan, and for specific applications such as slow pitch and popping, people lean towards Daiwa as well
The best reel in Japan is ShiDaimanoWa
Shimano makes more robust reels in the low to mid end range, but daiwa's high end reels are more refined compared to shimano. Saltiga, Certate, Luvias, once you try those 3 you won't ever turn back. Silky smooth and tighest tolerances in the spinning world. Twinpower and Stella cannot compare.
Shimano dont make reels in China and Singapore . Does he know where is Singapore exactly?.
I live in Singapore
yes
.......Shimano only make rod in China
@@zolkiplyibrahim3626 shimano make Rods in Japan and Indonesia also
Malaysia same crap
Daiwa have factory are in Vietnam, China and Japan .
For Shimano reel for mid and entry model are made in Malaysia, high end in Japan.
They have another factory in thailand..
Vietnam better than china
High end for Shimano is $450
@@kenth6140 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Guess my $360 Vanford didn’t make the cut, made in China 😂
I just took apart my Shimano 2021 Scorpion DC and was a little disappointed to see that both the worm gear and the ratchet wheel are plastic. My Lew's Speed Spool 2nd gen has stainless steel and brass and cost far less.
Could....you like both? I own both, and they excel, respectively, based on different models. One thing I'm not crazy about on Daiwas is how the handles screw into the bodies. I prefer Shimano's approach; it simply feels more secure. Also, my Saltiga BJ, which has their fabled corrosion resistance, started to show corrosion after one outing. I rinsed the reel thoroughly immediately after I used it, mere minutes after use. I never had any problems with corrosion on my Saragosa, the other SW reel I use. And I've used that reel for SW fishing way more times than my Saltiga BJ. That's only my first hand account.
But, yeah, this doesn't have to be a polarized, cultish, dichotomy. Buy both brands, based on which company is excelling at making a particular mode type. It varies by model, not by entire product line-up.
I have Ryobi, Shimano and Daiwa that is 30-45 YO. I seldom greeased but always shoots WD40 after baths.Even jammed reels on the boats, opened it up, shoots WD40 a couple of times, it will be good as before. O issues.
I was gonna make a comment about all the things you got wrong in this video but then I realised it would take me all day just to do that
Couldn't agree more hahaha dont know where he is getting his info
Fabricated info.... what an obvious display total bias hard on for Diawa ... shimano blows Diawa out of the water..
@@dingermark8767 Lol not a bias comment at all...
@@dingermark8767 just bought my first budget (Nasci 2500FC) fishing pole. Fished a little as a kid but I’m basically brand new. Now I just need a rod as I’ll basically be fishing bank/pier
When purchasing a reel you must make service a factor. In my area Diawa parts are tough to get and have weak support so its Shimano(90%) and Penn(10%) for premium reels.
So they manufacture in the same places? Do you know which parts are manufactured/assembled in Japan/UK and which are manufactured/assembled in Malaysia/China/etc. I personally have a 100$ baitcaster in both brands, I prefer the SLX but they are both great reels.
honestly, I think you picked the wrong reels to compare. For example, you have skipped the entire SW family within the Shimano brand, which includes some reels that would have been appropriate to compare to some of the Daiwa you picked (e.g. the Saltist). For example you could have compared the BG with the Socorro SW or the Spheros SW, and so on. And with that kind comparison, I think Daiwa and Shimano are basically equivalent and it's just a matter of what you prefer. One thing of which I am sure about, is that Daiwa in the last few years made a huge progress and seems to be becoming better every couple of years
8:09 is that a procyon or tatula ss?
check out 14:26
If you don't even know Twinpower XD and Twinpower FD,
why should you mislead others?
I just started fishing two months ago and I know that these are two completely different products!
This guy is a litteral potato, can't believe he is actually recommending things to people that he knows less about than 99% of the people that clicked on this video.... I would list examples of things wrong here, but I would just end up scripting out the entire video🤦😂.
Hello, is the BG 3500 suitable for a popping rod 7.4 ft 40-80g?
Have you tried the diawa regal lt2000. I'm not sure if I should choose over another pflueger president 30. Thanks
Which rod is that ? The one paired with shimano
hi, are the inshore select ugly stick rods any good? thanks
I have seika black water 2.7m 10-30g medium heavy rod and i do salt water fishing in rocks should i get a Shimano sienna 2500 or Laguna lt 2500 ?
laguna
Excuse me Sir, daiwa 'cheap' mainly made in china, and shimano 'cheap' mainly made in malaysia. And best price salwater for me is saragosa. Im so sorry for you Sir
Both Daiwa reels that I have are made in Vietnam.
@@jimmyrecard6021 i do own daiwa rod made in vietnam. But most of my daiwa reel are made in china (bg, lexa lt, phantom lt) may i know your reel Sir?
@@igedewahyuarsana It is a Daiwa AIRD LT 4000-C. I have it paired with a Daiwa RZ 702MHFS.
I’ve had both shimano and Daiwa reels and for the lower end range (which most people will fall into) Daiwa is unbeatable in the more affordable market which like I mentioned makes up the majority of anglers, the tatula, fuego, legalis, ninja, regal, revros, and laguna ALL trickle down from the Daiwa ballistic, and they all use the exact same body, of course the internals get a bit lower in quality as you get lower in price (all the ones listed go from most expensive to cheapest) but even the cheapest reel being the laguna still feels silky smooth and I’ve fished it for over 2 years now and it hasn’t failed yet, I’ve had a similar 40$ reel from shimano and all the components felt cheap except for the spool and drag knob, everything else was just straight up plastic, no not the fancy “graphite” ones straight up car interior gloss black plastic
Interested in this. Still researching which way to pick between the two as a beginner. Do you fish in saltwater sir?
Which shimano reel would you recommend for saltwater fishing?
And which Daiwa reel would you recommend for saltwater fishing?
I did a lot of research into comparing the Shimano Stradic CI and the Diawa BG in 2500 and 3000 sizes. My opinion... I was leaning towards Shimano because I have some really great older Shimanos that I used for bass fishing. I also have a cheap Shakespeare $40 spinning combo I bought from a superstore (similar in size to a 2500/3000). I had all three reels to physically compare, and the Diawa just seems to be a more durable reel. The Shimano construction felt cheap and very similar to the Shakespeare, whereas the Diawa felt sturdy and capable of being abused on my boat, the pier, beach, etc. Both the Shimano and the Diawa seemed equally smooth when reeling and casting (using St. Croix 7' rods). The Shimano was more lightweight than the Diawa, and the Shimano also had a stronger drag than the Diawa. When I purchased my BGs and the Stradic CI, the BG 2500 was around $130 and the Shimano CI was retailing for $240. As far as durability, I haven't had ANY issue with my Diawa BGs. In fact, I bought several after the first one and returned the Shimano CI. I have a friend who also bought a Shimano CI around the same time, and he hasn't had any issues either. He mostly uses his Shimano on a boat saltwater inshore fishing, where I'm a bit more rugged with my BGs.
I’ll have to disagree on the Sahara reels not lasting. I used to charter with those and had very little issue. They were used by novice and experienced anglers, probably 200 trips per year. They lasted somewhere around five years, with only an annual maintenance. One caveat is this was close to 20 years ago.
In Australia Daiwa spare parts are a hassle. Once they used mag seal and would not supply the oil I bailed out on them.
hello,what is your opinion on daiwa laguna LT 2500?
Do not forget the Stradic is actually more geared towards the bass and inshore crowd.
My Shimano Sedona was under salt water for 10 minutes and i only rinsed it after and it still worked perfectly 100s of fish later.
Yeah well you cleaned it straight after
@@jacobparker8041 i dunked nexave in saltwater moist soil by mistake and didnt rinse it but it still functions like a brand new one. shimano💪always
I've been fishing for 31 years. I used to buy nothing but shimano reels from 1996 to 2008. Then starting around 2010, Shimano started cutting corners and raising prices. I bought a daiwa exceler spinning reel in 2012. So much smoother, better drag, stronger gears. Daiwa has the perfect balance between smooth and tough. Daiwa is way ahead of Shimano in terms of technology. I just recently bought a daiwa legalis and daiwa revros. Unbelievable reels. Look up Alan hawk's reel reviews. He rated the daiwa bg the best budget saltwater reel under $150. He rated it better than a Shimano socorro. The daiwa saltiga blows the Stella out of the water. Daiwa is king.
Two letters that ruin the technology argument: DC.
21 Spheros SW is new king at this level according to Alan Hawk latest review.
In Australia it's a no brainier. Shimano, why ?
Every reel (budget or high end) has a 10 year warranty.
Just got my first Daiwa in years. Been Shimano all day for about 20 years. Here we go.
I've been using Shimano reels for 20+ years also, getting a Daiwa Procyon MQ LT Spinning Reel
Your experience and mine are polar opposite. I have several Daiwa reels (Fuego, BG and Ballistic) but IMO the Shimano reels in the same price range are superior.
I’ve come to be pretty unbiased and have a few of each. I’ve learned personally I much prefer Shimano’s baitcasters that I use for Bass and such in freshwater. But I prefer Daiwa and Penn for spinning reels, particularly for use in saltwater or surf fishing.
I don’t understand why some people are so set on one particular brand. It’s not something like a car. Most fisherman I know have at least 4 or more different setups. Reels are relatively cheap, so why not have a spread?
My Ci4+ has been outstanding and never given me an issue...haven’t dunked it though. Do have a bg and a Tatula Ct as well and they are quality reels. If the bg was a little smaller, it may be the perfect reel. My 3000 feels like a 4000, but part of it is the reel feels bulletproof. If I’m throwing artificials I’m going Ci4. If i fish bait or use a popping cork, i go with the BG. What’s your opinion on the BG vs the Battle II?
Great video man ! I also like Daiwa better . How about the daiwa fuego ? Do you think is a good reel .
Bruh this is the worst comparison video I have ever watched. I’m literally tearing up from how much I’m laughing 😭😂
Yeah this guy is just a daiwa fan boy
@@itanamullik without even good points...
When will diawa fan boys see the light and switch to shimano?
I prefer Daiwa but I still think this is terrible 😂
Don't know what you're laughing at . Pretty good comparison IMHO. I agree daiwa is incredible. Some of their stuff in japan or Australia is just beyond anything we get to see here in America. Try to find a saltiga s extreme or a saltiga maverick
The bg and the nasci are completely different the nasci isn’t even for saltwater
The Nasci has been marketed as a saltwater reel ever since it came out. Shimano.com even says it. The BG’s are just so good and tough to compete with in their price point... $200 class reel for only $110
@@logans6263 you can find them as cheap as $70 too 😳
yes....his statesment....so bias.....
sir..im 66 years old...started fishing using spinning reel by age of 12 years old....started with Daiwa reel..then jump to Abu...then Penn...back to Daiwa....but since 15 years ago...Shimano is my choice...now i only had 1 Daiwa reel(catalina).....and 17 Shimano reels..from Stradic..Ultegra.Calcutta..Speedmaster...3.Twinpower and 4 Stella.
What are your thoughts on the Daiwa Regal 2500xh? I'm only getting into fishing and have heard great things about this reel.
Sorry, apart from some vintage fly reels, which Daiwa reels are made in the UK? They do make some Carp rods there.
Okuma also has their own factories.
a lot of daiwa fly rods are still made in scotland
Shimano have traditionally done the budget part of the market better than Daiwa. The cheap LT daiwas have however largely caught up to Shimano. To say that the Sahara is garbage is ridiculous. Ive sold hundreds and hundreds. This clown is way too young and dumb to be making the statements hes making. When you work in the trade for years and years then and only then do you get enough information to try to draw conclusions from. All he's got is "my dad". Both companies make great reels and you should judge on a model by model basis. Theres no problems with stradic drags. Havent had one returned for that. The issue is the way americans fish - they love to use line thats way too heavy for the situation and the reel as well.
Ngl the sahara is pretty shit
Daiwa and Shimano are both stepping up in the budget range, when before it was daiwa dominated. Shimanos new Nasci and Sahara FJ are quite nice offerings. Shimanos Spheros SW is currently the best budget saltwater reel atm, so it beats the daiwa BG there. But if you turn your head and look into the higher end, the Daiwa Saltiga beats the Stella and Certate beats Twinpower. Daiwa's MQ reels are just more refined and have tighter tolerances. Even Alan Hawk rated the saltiga as the best reel in the world right now. In conclusion, Shimano and Daiwa are almost equal on budget range, mid end is dominated by Shimano because of the aluminium gears compared to daiwas mid end zinc gears like the saltist, and at the top of the range its Daiwa. At the end of the day, we benefit hugely as a consumer from the competition of these two companies. Just my two cents
Do u know if there’s a big difference between the nasci and miravel? And are the components in the miravel and ultegra a huge difference?
@@Rpark1214 As far as I know the Miravel uses the Magnumlite rotor and CI4 body compared to nascis standard rotor and body. Insides are basically the same. The ultegra is a huge step up from the miravel, because it uses the same worm shaft system from the twinpower and stella. I'd go for ultegra if its a reasonable price.
@@danielwutfisho ah I see. I didn’t know the miravel had the ci4 body. In ur opinion is the miravel that much better than the Nasci for $20 more?
@@danielwutfisho I just added a 4000 sedona for $40 and a 5000 bg to my collection but was considering either the ultegra, nasci, or miravel next
@@Rpark1214 Nah man nasci is tried and tested, smooth enough and miravel isn't that big of an upgrade, just bit lighter. You can't go wrong with a Sedona and BG as long as you rinse them after fishing. Enjoy ur new gear 👍
Why did you compare daiwa luvias with sustain and not vanquish?
I can kind of get that, Sustain and Luvias are in the $300-$350 category while Vanquish is up at $400. Luvias in the US market is typically at $350 so right in the middle between the two shimanos. Sustain does seem a bit outdated though.
Why did you compare the Nasci to the BG? I would do Shimano Spheros SW 2019 vs Daiwa BG. Both great reels but Shimano has aluminium gear and some seals.
And why compare the Sustain to the Luvias LT? The Sustain is a couple of years old now and should be replaced soon (the new Stradic FL may be more advanced then the current Sustain), and the Luvias is a light weight model. Why not compare the Luvias LT (2020) to the Shimano Vanquish?
I would also suggest to have a look at Alan Hawk's article on mag seal. Apparently, not all Daiwa's with mag seal are fully sealed reels. I'm not so sure I would like to dunk a Luvias LT in salt water. Nice reel though, I'd like to have a Luvias LT, but let's see how it really holds up, it is only available for a short time now.
Spheros is twice as much?
@@chefmatt6299 Is it? Spheros SW 2019 in 3000 and 4000 size is $119,95.
@@debeerbos Fair point, though that is only two sizes and the rest are over $200. Frankly that whole situation is a bit confusing.
Main manufacturing point Singapore??? Are you sure???
Interesting. A few things have come to light since you made this. This past month i purchased 4 Daiwa reels, all my first. I wanted to stay away as i discovered a major flaw in one of their rod lines & captured it on video w/dozens of pics from others a few years back. But Daiwa worked with me & sent me my replacement so i didn't post the really bad vids showing it splinter in slo-mo at half it's rated load.
I must say i really liked the technology Daiwa has invested into their reels. I can see & feel the benefits. Still Shimano does still make some exceptional pieces. The new Nasci's are way better for example. I like the Nexave line. Inexpensive yet functional. I just got a Legalis 6K & spooled on 300yd of 40lb braid (most said no way). I like the Daiwa technology but here in Hawaii #1 is Penn (because of the price point). Then Shimano. I hardly know anyone into Daiwa. But when i go to TX there's Daiwa users everywhere. OR & WA it's Okuma. FL & CA it's Shimano.
Okuma is owned by a Taiwanese billionaire & the company owns ALL their factories Worldwide outright. Not many companies can boast that. That's why Okuma rose to grab the #3 spot extremely fast. When i designed a surf rod for them i was working with their factory through the US Developer of Product Development. I had the chance to go with Penn but chose Okuma. Daiwa from what i see has quality products & when i travel abroad they're bigger than Shimano. What Shimano does better than Daiwa hands down is marketing. Meaning if i sell a Shimano product per $100 vs a Daiwa product the money is more noticeable. I know as i have hands in Amazon that has showed me this.
It's good to go with your gut sir. But it's better to stick with facts & technological info & not dwell too long on any unit. This'll win over more anglers over time. Otherwise it's a "he said, she said" debate rather than educating those to your point of view. I like your presentation by the way. Take care.
Do you think a Daiwa Ballistic LT 5000 that weighs 8.1 oz and has a line capacity of Mono(lb/yd): 16/250, 20/195, 25/140 would be a good fit for a 9ft Medium Bass Pro ocean master thats 15-30 lbs.
1 - 3 oz. or should I go up in size to a 6000 Ballistic thats 11.1oz Mono 20/270
25/225 30/160.
What do you think about the vanford ?
its a lightweight model that is a stradic but has the MGL rotor for light startup inertia of rotation
ulegra is a favoriute ..and i had vanquish...amazing reel for a week then the ball bearings gave up
Shimano master race Shimano THUNNUS CI4 ftw
I love my Daiwas but my JDM Luvias just came "Made in China" with no warning that they were switching factories from Japan. Not cool, still a great reel but I'm not trying to support CCP.
Sucks to be daiwa fanboys
Not sure where you get your daiwa reel. In Singapore Shimano is cheaper than Daiwa..
I absolutely love the daiwa regal for the price, 70$ canadian and its got a killer drag on it, I actually caught a few king salmon on it
Some of the info you gave at the beginning of this video is wrong. Shimano manufacturers reels in two places. Malaysia for low and mid range suff and high end reels are built in Japan. Daiwa does the same thing, high end in japan and mid and low end reels are built in Thailand and China. Also, the Nasci and Sahara are the same reel expect for seals on the side plate bearings.
I’m really heavily debating between the diawa ballistic 4000 mq or the shimano stradic fl st4000 for my inshore reel and I honestly don’t know which one is better.
Ballistic is lighter than the Stradic and from what I’ve heard the newer Stradics aren’t as good as the older models
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I need a rear drag 2500 reel for pike perch fishing. Any suggestions.
why rear drag? Front drag is better
Been fishing for over 40 years. Both freshwater and surf. Used just about every major brand reels out there, from 1000 to 5000 sizes. Daiwa and Shimano are superior over all other brands. Penn reels are significantly heavier than their competition, and not nearly as smooth. They also become clunkier, noisier, and less smooth over time (I do service my reels every winter). But they don't easily fail and tend to last and be usable for a long time. Although I've owned and used other brands, such as Pflueger, Kastking, Okuma, Abu Garcia, they are all inferior for one reason or another to the main two brands discussed here. IMHO Daiwa makes longer lasting, better reels for saltwater use, while Shimano reels are slightly smoother and my choice for freshwater use. Yes, Shimano bail wire is ridiculously thin, but I never had one bend on me. Of course, if you abuse your equipment by carelessly throwing it onto rocks, sand etc., it will get damaged, regardless of brand.
I fish freshwater (Wisconsin)... Mainly using the Shimano Sedonas. It's light enough, smooth, and strong enough to battle up to 3' Northern Pike so far. I've dropped a Sedona into the lake off the side of my boat. Sat there for about 5 minutes until we could fish it off the bottom 😂. I just shook it off and hoped for the best. I had all intents of opening it up to dry it out. Of course I never got around to to it. It still runs buttery smooth after about 3 seasons of use. Great freshwater reels.
im a shimano guy, when it comes to low profile reels shimano takes it home no doubt, when i comes to spinning reels im pretty split, i did enjoy the 100 dollar daiwa fuego fast gearratio. Rods im also spit, i love the luvitas rod but i do have a few shimano rods that i love to, at the moment i use a lot of my 10-30g 8 foot ABU vendetta, i really love the lock mecanisms for the reel and the winngrip its very sensitive and feels so great in the hand.
Just shopped the BG vs the Fuego lt (similar price points) and found it interesting that the BG was made in China and Fuego lt in Vietnam.
Just bought a Daiwa Regal LT 1000 for my ultralight set up. Love how smooth it is, and the drag is amazing!! I like Lew's reels as well.
Wish Diawa would work on their spools. If they did I would switch to them for all my reels. Casting distance is a big draw for me. The upper end Shimanos are designed to toss braid better.
From what I've seen they both manufacture their higher end reels in Japan and the mid to low in Malaysia or China.
Personally I prefer Daiwa Spinning reels and Shimano baitcasters. Specifically the monocoque body spinning reels from daiwa.
I use braid to fluoro on almost everything so the T-wing keeps me away from daiwa baitcasters for the most part. The exception being my swimbait rod using strait fluoro with a coastal 200.
I just got a Daiwa prorex 400 8.1 t-wing it is smooth, lightweight and strong. Casts a mile even with light lures. Already caught a 45 lb striper on it. Handled it beautifully. The drag is amazing it's smooth as glass
I bought a diawa bg2500 and my friend bought a nasci 2500 and my diawa feels like shit when I reel in while my friends nasci is still butter smooth our reels are 2+years old we fish a lot when we bought them we where fishing 2 times a day 4hours a day we fish only saltwater,I tried re greasing my bg2500 still feels like shit ima get it serviced and if they can't fix I'm never buying a diawa ima a diawa fan boy I have had a fuego and jdm tatula baitcasters reels and tbh they got fucked up fast especially the fuego
Right on I feel like getting a twin power or certate
The Stradic fl is a phenomenal reel ur nuts dude😂 people fanboy over good products for a reason. I own stradic fl’s and ci4s and two ballistic Lts and the ballistic lt is the biggest let down I’ve ever had in a $200+ reel. I’ve got the shimano Vanford on the he way hopefully it’s as good as the stradics. But I’m also from Michigan so salt has no effect for me.
The new Shimano Spheros SWA destroys the BG and are similarly priced in my part of the world. Penn Spinfisher VI is also way more value than the BG. I own all 3 so would know. Not sure about reels at other price points.
Yeah guys idk. My budget only really allows for bg's, spheros' and battle 3's. Overall, I think they all have their places. Once you get to the higher prices, I would just choose a van staal. But then again I'm mainly a surf fishermen.
i only own shimano but daiwa people tell me there handles get slack and sloppy over time as shimano stay tight over time , you should try a sustain or twin power .
I want to thank you for an unbiased video! Strictly from a bass fishing standpoint I think Shimano spinning has Daiwa beat and it’s not close.. however I do think Daiwa is getting closer in that category. Daiwa baitcasters are better than Shimano imo
I have both....diawa tatula bait casters and Shimano stradic spinners....my son uses all diawa spinners...and guess what...his 6yr old reels are just as old and still just as smooth and dependable as my 6 yr old shimanos...for paddle fishing I use diawa bg 90 and 60's...operate awesome...I have a Shimano Sahara 3ooo as well....13 yrs old and I use it for channel cat....works awesome.....I feel like people need to understand that manufacturing, due to cnc machining, has been pretty much perfected....our cars engines are now marvels to behold, rifle Scopes are now all precision marvels and likewise our fishing reels are all awesome.....about the only difference in what items do is HOW they do it...I understand a preference towards HOW a reel does what it does....but other than that....bla bla bla
The older daiwas and cheaper ones yes the new ones feel amazing but the tech they've put in with the sealing I cant maintain them myself and im not leaving it up to daiwa to tell me how much it cost when i send it too them
12:00 I own a Ballistic LT and the reel was ruined with months after it hit the salt water(I washed it wish lots of freshwater and always do after trips). I sent it in for repair and they just took it apart oiled the reel and it seized up again. Reel was very smooth(when it worked) and ultra light but it is not sturdy. Literally in 30 years of fishing it's the least reliable reel I've had with the exception of a $5 bait caster i had as a kid. I am going to a Shimano Vanford Spinning Reel to replace it.
Also far my most sturdy reel in all of my fishing years which I still own is a mid 2000s Shimano Sustain which I still own. Literally bulletproof(granted that was made a long time ago so you cant buy that exact version anymore)
TH-camr Joe Olivas is an avid fisherman in Hawaii. Daiwa reels die with his style of fishing. The Shimano reels outlast the Daiwa reels. See his channel under his name.
indeed thats what happen to me too buy daiwa phantom lt within 6 month in sw enviroment all useless.. bought a stradic ci+4 after a year still running smooth
If u wanna know the full potential of both companies, you have to look into the JDM reels. There are muuuch more models and technologies in the JDMs
Diawa Bg used to be good and have a lot of Chinese cheap parts on it!
Bought a Diawa Fuego 4000 lt and started spinning rough after less than 6 months!
This is a mag sealed reel!!!
I have a Shimano Saragossa and it has no issues for 3 yrs....
You might want to check your facts.
Diawa is mostly China.
Shimano is Japan and Malaysia!
Anyways I go by experience.... not reviews or ratings which mostly are biased because of receiving free products and sponsorship!
Been a shimano man for years and have to agree once you get into the bigger models 4000 size and up Daiwa takes the cake in durability.
Have you tried the new Penn Clash 2? Penn has a winner with that reel. Feels sturdy and is way smoother than what people think of modern penns.
I heard that just came out. Would be interesting to try
Inshore Chaos I fished one and I was shocked. Felt like a stouter Stradic.
I think the reason for Stradic fanboys are those of us who used the originals when they first came out. I've still got four original Stradics from 1992 to 1998 and they all still run perfectly with thousands of days on the water. Best reels I've ever used. Guessing the new ones are not quite as good.
When it comes to carp fishing in Europe, the Shimano Tribal range is superior. Most professional casters use shimano rods and reels and they are the most popular. Carp fishing casting records are also on Shimano rods (especially the Tx7). When it comes to baitcasters, most people I've talked to prefer Shimano. Spinning reels are where Daiwa has finally caught up with Shimano, and both brands make very good models. I had plenty of reels from both brands and I actually enjoy using both. I actually like my Shimano Stella more than I do my Daiwa Morethan Branzino, even though the latter is more expensive.
I recently bought some old Diawas and Shimanos at the local Goodwill for $2 - $4 each. After a clean and grease, they work as well as anything I've tried new. I couldn't imagine spending $200-$300 on a reel.
dont need to spend 200-300 especially for shimano and daiwa. Budget reels like the sedona and laguna are such good value and stand the test of time.
if you fish a lot, you start noticing differences. its all about going out to have fun but its more fun if you have the right gear.
@@yikwonjang2978 of course thats true. Just like the difference between a toyota and a mercedes. I myself own a Luvias LT, Certate SW, Saltist MQ, Vanford and list goes on. Just saying that there are heaps of good budget reels at the moment. Spheros SW, Nasci, Daiwa BG..
btw sahara and nasci are e3xact the same reel ...but sahara dont have a filter on the spool.. the rest is exactly the same.. BALLISTIC IS CRAP,.,.. HAD 2 OF THEM... fuego is as good .. ballistic is overhyped..
I’m 100% with you here man Shimano isn’t a slouch but I’ll take a daiwa spinning reel all day
From my experience as angler i say to you that daiwa produce more in china and quality its socks!!!
After having problems with Shimano ive switched. Every Shimano I bought did the same thing. Locked up during fishing. And a couple were barely used
what about a zebco
The shamato vanford is made in Malaysia
Not gonna lie....this video got some attention. Well played, Sir, well played 💯
I fish 98% of the year in Illinois and Wisconsin freshwater. I went on a trip to Florida and bought a couple BG 4500's (No 4000's were in stock during the plandemic). Man, did they have issues with braid (20 or 30lb) wind knotting! I've heard people say "You must not know how to cast" or "you're using the wrong rod". The line was even on the spool. I fish nearly every day during open water up here. I skip jigs (baitcasters) under docks and brush. I can certainly cast quite well. I never experienced wind knots with my Shimanos with any rod or in any condition. Those BG's just caused me so many issues. Maybe it's just my hard casting style? Maybe the reel sizes weren't conducent to throwing that sized braid and swim jigs. I don't know. I'm going to give a 2500 size BG a second chance. If it doesn't work out, you all will be seeing like new BG's on Craigslist fast... And I'll go buy more Shimanos
Shimano is like Toyota and Daiwa is like Nissan
Vire I feel like you’ve never held a Stella
@@THEBOSS47MLG
That's Toyota Supra for you
Vire oh yeah
Daiwa is stronger
@@kenth6140
Naaah every reel eventualy broke by unresposible people. I saw both of them rusted and unusable
I've owned 3 backbays and I think they are bulletproof!!!
I have 2 Shimano casting reels I bought in 1988 and have been the only 2 that I have used all these years. Now Diawa brags about their technology that just matched what Shimano had in 1988! I recently bought a Diawa and a Lews reel. The Shimanos show hardly any sign of ware and cast as easily, are as birdnest resistant and work just as smoothly as the newer reels.
That's 35 years of hard bass fishing and technology they are now beginning to match.
I put the new reels on a flipping rod and a grassbed rod.
The Shimano Stella is Mostly compared to the Daiwa Saltiga.
Great video this. I've gone the other way. Diawa user for 2 decides. Now I'm more into the Shimano feel. I've got a 2011 Stella 3000 FE plus a 2020 Twin Power 4000MHG FD. It's all I need. Don't forget Daiwa service charges are through the roof. Not the same with Shimano. That's why I switched.
I love both but I’m a baitcaster guy and Shimano dominates the baitcaster game as well as I love the Shimano spinning reels I got
The new nasci might beat the bg or match because has a screw in handle now I only use diawa or shmano sold all myself penn reels I think the nasic 21 will be a great reel.
I bought nasci 2021, light & smooth . So far so good
No Daiwa Fuego or Shimano Saragosa? Two of the most popular reels in their respective price classes? That makes this comparison video woefully incomplete.
I was with you all the way up to the Back Bay. I have over 100 reels and own 3 of those things and they're up there with the best reels I own hands down. See Tackle Advisors tear down of the thing for further proof!
Daiwa LT reels are trash, their anti reverse breaks over time. My shimano at the same price still works fine.
Fuego is the best on the market. Around 100 bucks, mag seal, 22lb drag and super smooth.
So now “color” is more important than bearing count?? Wtf?
Yes, obviously. The new Pepsi can has better coloration than any reel out there, so obviously the best reel in existence, is a Pepsi can.