Why Daiwa is Better Than Shimano
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- Shimano has always seemed to be the majority favorite fishing reel brand, but I'm here to explain how and why Daiwa is better.
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People really telling me penn is better than both shimano and daiwa 😂
Shakespeare Is by far the highest quality reel bro!
That's because they are
@@Jessewrightfishing hi jesse ily
The spinfisher vi 2000s are beasts
For the money they definitely are, no spinner better than a slammer 3 by any brand besides the saltigas and Stella's, but they are double or triple the price of slammers, and with daiwa releasing the bg mq with a zinc gear for around $200 and Penn putting stainless steel and brass gears in their new battle 3s around $150, I'd say Penn is better than both, but I definitely agree daiwa is better than shimano. Saltigas are the goat.
For the "budget" level reels that I am looking at,
- Daiwa are made in Vietnam
- Shimano are made in Malasyia
I own Daiwa and Shimano reels love them both. 2 top companies competing with each other is good for fishermen
Fun fact: A 2021 survey from Japan shows that 70% of Japanese fishermen use Shimano gear. Shimano is a much older and more experienced brand, and overall they're reels are much more refined and smooth. However, Daiwa has come up with wome really nice models those past few years. Shimano remains king in Japan though.
Just because a company has been around longer, doesn't mean it's better. Shimano reels are overrated, overpriced junk. The older shimano reels from the 80s, 90s, and mid 2000s were great. Now they cut corners and raise the price. They use plastic spool supports on most of the spinning reels. I had a shimano sahara a few years ago that got stiff after 5 months of freshwater use. My 40 dollar pflueger trion reel still runs fine after 6 years.
Daiwa has been making reels longer than shimano look it up
For one Daiwa has been making reels for far longer, shimano as a company itself has been around much longer than Daiwa because they make bikes too, and while it’s true the reels are pretty popular Daiwa rods are king in Japan, and for specific applications such as slow pitch and popping, people lean towards Daiwa as well
The best reel in Japan is ShiDaimanoWa
Shimano makes more robust reels in the low to mid end range, but daiwa's high end reels are more refined compared to shimano. Saltiga, Certate, Luvias, once you try those 3 you won't ever turn back. Silky smooth and tighest tolerances in the spinning world. Twinpower and Stella cannot compare.
Have you tried the diawa regal lt2000. I'm not sure if I should choose over another pflueger president 30. Thanks
So they manufacture in the same places? Do you know which parts are manufactured/assembled in Japan/UK and which are manufactured/assembled in Malaysia/China/etc. I personally have a 100$ baitcaster in both brands, I prefer the SLX but they are both great reels.
This boy knows nothing, comparing SW reels vs Finesse reels, not even a technical argumento , no nothing , lmao
#TeamDaiwa
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Shimano dont make reels in China and Singapore . Does he know where is Singapore exactly?.
I live in Singapore
yes
.......Shimano only make rod in China
@@zolkiplyibrahim3626 shimano make Rods in Japan and Indonesia also
Malaysia same crap
Daiwa have factory are in Vietnam, China and Japan .
For Shimano reel for mid and entry model are made in Malaysia, high end in Japan.
They have another factory in thailand..
Vietnam better than china
High end for Shimano is $450
@@kenth6140 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Guess my $360 Vanford didn’t make the cut, made in China 😂
I have seika black water 2.7m 10-30g medium heavy rod and i do salt water fishing in rocks should i get a Shimano sienna 2500 or Laguna lt 2500 ?
laguna
Hello, is the BG 3500 suitable for a popping rod 7.4 ft 40-80g?
Could....you like both? I own both, and they excel, respectively, based on different models. One thing I'm not crazy about on Daiwas is how the handles screw into the bodies. I prefer Shimano's approach; it simply feels more secure. Also, my Saltiga BJ, which has their fabled corrosion resistance, started to show corrosion after one outing. I rinsed the reel thoroughly immediately after I used it, mere minutes after use. I never had any problems with corrosion on my Saragosa, the other SW reel I use. And I've used that reel for SW fishing way more times than my Saltiga BJ. That's only my first hand account.
But, yeah, this doesn't have to be a polarized, cultish, dichotomy. Buy both brands, based on which company is excelling at making a particular mode type. It varies by model, not by entire product line-up.
I have Ryobi, Shimano and Daiwa that is 30-45 YO. I seldom greeased but always shoots WD40 after baths.Even jammed reels on the boats, opened it up, shoots WD40 a couple of times, it will be good as before. O issues.
What are your thoughts on the Daiwa Regal 2500xh? I'm only getting into fishing and have heard great things about this reel.
I need a rear drag 2500 reel for pike perch fishing. Any suggestions.
My Ci4+ has been outstanding and never given me an issue...haven’t dunked it though. Do have a bg and a Tatula Ct as well and they are quality reels. If the bg was a little smaller, it may be the perfect reel. My 3000 feels like a 4000, but part of it is the reel feels bulletproof. If I’m throwing artificials I’m going Ci4. If i fish bait or use a popping cork, i go with the BG. What’s your opinion on the BG vs the Battle II?
What do you think about the vanford ?
8:09 is that a procyon or tatula ss?
hello,what is your opinion on daiwa laguna LT 2500?
I did a lot of research into comparing the Shimano Stradic CI and the Diawa BG in 2500 and 3000 sizes. My opinion... I was leaning towards Shimano because I have some really great older Shimanos that I used for bass fishing. I also have a cheap Shakespeare $40 spinning combo I bought from a superstore (similar in size to a 2500/3000). I had all three reels to physically compare, and the Diawa just seems to be a more durable reel. The Shimano construction felt cheap and very similar to the Shakespeare, whereas the Diawa felt sturdy and capable of being abused on my boat, the pier, beach, etc. Both the Shimano and the Diawa seemed equally smooth when reeling and casting (using St. Croix 7' rods). The Shimano was more lightweight than the Diawa, and the Shimano also had a stronger drag than the Diawa. When I purchased my BGs and the Stradic CI, the BG 2500 was around $130 and the Shimano CI was retailing for $240. As far as durability, I haven't had ANY issue with my Diawa BGs. In fact, I bought several after the first one and returned the Shimano CI. I have a friend who also bought a Shimano CI around the same time, and he hasn't had any issues either. He mostly uses his Shimano on a boat saltwater inshore fishing, where I'm a bit more rugged with my BGs.
Which rod is that ? The one paired with shimano
When purchasing a reel you must make service a factor. In my area Diawa parts are tough to get and have weak support so its Shimano(90%) and Penn(10%) for premium reels.
In Australia Daiwa spare parts are a hassle. Once they used mag seal and would not supply the oil I bailed out on them.
Do you think a Daiwa Ballistic LT 5000 that weighs 8.1 oz and has a line capacity of Mono(lb/yd): 16/250, 20/195, 25/140 would be a good fit for a 9ft Medium Bass Pro ocean master thats 15-30 lbs.
1 - 3 oz. or should I go up in size to a 6000 Ballistic thats 11.1oz Mono 20/270
25/225 30/160.
I was gonna make a comment about all the things you got wrong in this video but then I realised it would take me all day just to do that
Couldn't agree more hahaha dont know where he is getting his info
Fabricated info.... what an obvious display total bias hard on for Diawa ... shimano blows Diawa out of the water..
@@dingermark8767 Lol not a bias comment at all...
@@dingermark8767 just bought my first budget (Nasci 2500FC) fishing pole. Fished a little as a kid but I’m basically brand new. Now I just need a rod as I’ll basically be fishing bank/pier
Just shopped the BG vs the Fuego lt (similar price points) and found it interesting that the BG was made in China and Fuego lt in Vietnam.
Do not forget the Stradic is actually more geared towards the bass and inshore crowd.
My Shimano Sedona was under salt water for 10 minutes and i only rinsed it after and it still worked perfectly 100s of fish later.
Yeah well you cleaned it straight after
I’m really heavily debating between the diawa ballistic 4000 mq or the shimano stradic fl st4000 for my inshore reel and I honestly don’t know which one is better.
Ballistic is lighter than the Stradic and from what I’ve heard the newer Stradics aren’t as good as the older models
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Which shimano reel would you recommend for saltwater fishing?
And which Daiwa reel would you recommend for saltwater fishing?
ulegra is a favoriute ..and i had vanquish...amazing reel for a week then the ball bearings gave up
Shimano is superior 🤷the only place where daiwa beats shimano is in the budget under $120 reels and that fits most peoples budgets thats why many use daiwa.
Bruh this is the worst comparison video I have ever watched. I’m literally tearing up from how much I’m laughing 😭😂
Yeah this guy is just a daiwa fan boy
@@itanamullik without even good points...
When will diawa fan boys see the light and switch to shimano?
I prefer Daiwa but I still think this is terrible 😂
Don't know what you're laughing at . Pretty good comparison IMHO. I agree daiwa is incredible. Some of their stuff in japan or Australia is just beyond anything we get to see here in America. Try to find a saltiga s extreme or a saltiga maverick
Bro daiwas are made out plastic what do you think is cheaper plastic or forged aluminum
check out 14:26
If you don't even know Twinpower XD and Twinpower FD,
why should you mislead others?
I just started fishing two months ago and I know that these are two completely different products!
This guy is a litteral potato, can't believe he is actually recommending things to people that he knows less about than 99% of the people that clicked on this video.... I would list examples of things wrong here, but I would just end up scripting out the entire video🤦😂.
Sorry, apart from some vintage fly reels, which Daiwa reels are made in the UK? They do make some Carp rods there.
Okuma also has their own factories.
a lot of daiwa fly rods are still made in scotland
Great take, I love all three brands mentioned, my collection is honestly pretty balanced between the three. Love them all
I’ll have to disagree on the Sahara reels not lasting. I used to charter with those and had very little issue. They were used by novice and experienced anglers, probably 200 trips per year. They lasted somewhere around five years, with only an annual maintenance. One caveat is this was close to 20 years ago.
I’ve had both shimano and Daiwa reels and for the lower end range (which most people will fall into) Daiwa is unbeatable in the more affordable market which like I mentioned makes up the majority of anglers, the tatula, fuego, legalis, ninja, regal, revros, and laguna ALL trickle down from the Daiwa ballistic, and they all use the exact same body, of course the internals get a bit lower in quality as you get lower in price (all the ones listed go from most expensive to cheapest) but even the cheapest reel being the laguna still feels silky smooth and I’ve fished it for over 2 years now and it hasn’t failed yet, I’ve had a similar 40$ reel from shimano and all the components felt cheap except for the spool and drag knob, everything else was just straight up plastic, no not the fancy “graphite” ones straight up car interior gloss black plastic
The bg and the nasci are completely different the nasci isn’t even for saltwater
The Nasci has been marketed as a saltwater reel ever since it came out. Shimano.com even says it. The BG’s are just so good and tough to compete with in their price point... $200 class reel for only $110
@@logans6263 you can find them as cheap as $70 too 😳
yes....his statesment....so bias.....
sir..im 66 years old...started fishing using spinning reel by age of 12 years old....started with Daiwa reel..then jump to Abu...then Penn...back to Daiwa....but since 15 years ago...Shimano is my choice...now i only had 1 Daiwa reel(catalina).....and 17 Shimano reels..from Stradic..Ultegra.Calcutta..Speedmaster...3.Twinpower and 4 Stella.
Why did you compare daiwa luvias with sustain and not vanquish?
I can kind of get that, Sustain and Luvias are in the $300-$350 category while Vanquish is up at $400. Luvias in the US market is typically at $350 so right in the middle between the two shimanos. Sustain does seem a bit outdated though.
Just bought a Daiwa Regal LT 1000 for my ultralight set up. Love how smooth it is, and the drag is amazing!! I like Lew's reels as well.
Great video man ! I also like Daiwa better . How about the daiwa fuego ? Do you think is a good reel .
From what I've seen they both manufacture their higher end reels in Japan and the mid to low in Malaysia or China.
Personally I prefer Daiwa Spinning reels and Shimano baitcasters. Specifically the monocoque body spinning reels from daiwa.
I use braid to fluoro on almost everything so the T-wing keeps me away from daiwa baitcasters for the most part. The exception being my swimbait rod using strait fluoro with a coastal 200.
I just got a Daiwa prorex 400 8.1 t-wing it is smooth, lightweight and strong. Casts a mile even with light lures. Already caught a 45 lb striper on it. Handled it beautifully. The drag is amazing it's smooth as glass
Excuse me Sir, daiwa 'cheap' mainly made in china, and shimano 'cheap' mainly made in malaysia. And best price salwater for me is saragosa. Im so sorry for you Sir
Both Daiwa reels that I have are made in Vietnam.
@@jimmyrecard6021 i do own daiwa rod made in vietnam. But most of my daiwa reel are made in china (bg, lexa lt, phantom lt) may i know your reel Sir?
@@igedewahyuarsana It is a Daiwa AIRD LT 4000-C. I have it paired with a Daiwa RZ 702MHFS.
I own and both 3k and 5k size certate and just bought the TP FD 5k. Love the certates and look forward to putting the FD up to the test.
how did the TP FD5k hold up? I'm looking to get a certate lt 5k or a TP FD 5K. I'm a shimano guy but interested in the certate LT.
@@vnicknguyen The TP5K is very nice for sure. The certate is just butter smooth. They are both smooth in a certain way. You would have to fish them to know. Both really good. But I would go with the certate because it’s just crazy smooth better sealed and lots of stopping power
@@Hulk7385 Thanks for the reply. I will likely go with the certate to try it out.
Just got my first Daiwa in years. Been Shimano all day for about 20 years. Here we go.
I've been using Shimano reels for 20+ years also, getting a Daiwa Procyon MQ LT Spinning Reel
Why did you compare the Nasci to the BG? I would do Shimano Spheros SW 2019 vs Daiwa BG. Both great reels but Shimano has aluminium gear and some seals.
And why compare the Sustain to the Luvias LT? The Sustain is a couple of years old now and should be replaced soon (the new Stradic FL may be more advanced then the current Sustain), and the Luvias is a light weight model. Why not compare the Luvias LT (2020) to the Shimano Vanquish?
I would also suggest to have a look at Alan Hawk's article on mag seal. Apparently, not all Daiwa's with mag seal are fully sealed reels. I'm not so sure I would like to dunk a Luvias LT in salt water. Nice reel though, I'd like to have a Luvias LT, but let's see how it really holds up, it is only available for a short time now.
Spheros is twice as much?
@@chefmatt6299 Is it? Spheros SW 2019 in 3000 and 4000 size is $119,95.
@@debeerbos Fair point, though that is only two sizes and the rest are over $200. Frankly that whole situation is a bit confusing.
honestly, I think you picked the wrong reels to compare. For example, you have skipped the entire SW family within the Shimano brand, which includes some reels that would have been appropriate to compare to some of the Daiwa you picked (e.g. the Saltist). For example you could have compared the BG with the Socorro SW or the Spheros SW, and so on. And with that kind comparison, I think Daiwa and Shimano are basically equivalent and it's just a matter of what you prefer. One thing of which I am sure about, is that Daiwa in the last few years made a huge progress and seems to be becoming better every couple of years
Main manufacturing point Singapore??? Are you sure???
Your experience and mine are polar opposite. I have several Daiwa reels (Fuego, BG and Ballistic) but IMO the Shimano reels in the same price range are superior.
I only have ultralight gear with rods only up to 5 grams for trout fishing, among many reels I use Okuma Ceymar XT, Shimano Sedona and Daiwa Legalis LT, the Ceymar XT is by far the best reel from the 3, I use it for 3 years, 2 a week and still feels like is brand new
Have you tried the new Penn Clash 2? Penn has a winner with that reel. Feels sturdy and is way smoother than what people think of modern penns.
I heard that just came out. Would be interesting to try
Inshore Chaos I fished one and I was shocked. Felt like a stouter Stradic.
I have to agree with the exception of the backbay!I've had 3 of them and fish ALOT!!! I've had ZERO issue with the butter smooth, super stout refined backbay
I bought a diawa bg2500 and my friend bought a nasci 2500 and my diawa feels like shit when I reel in while my friends nasci is still butter smooth our reels are 2+years old we fish a lot when we bought them we where fishing 2 times a day 4hours a day we fish only saltwater,I tried re greasing my bg2500 still feels like shit ima get it serviced and if they can't fix I'm never buying a diawa ima a diawa fan boy I have had a fuego and jdm tatula baitcasters reels and tbh they got fucked up fast especially the fuego
Right on I feel like getting a twin power or certate
In Australia it's a no brainier. Shimano, why ?
Every reel (budget or high end) has a 10 year warranty.
I absolutely love the daiwa regal for the price, 70$ canadian and its got a killer drag on it, I actually caught a few king salmon on it
im a shimano guy, when it comes to low profile reels shimano takes it home no doubt, when i comes to spinning reels im pretty split, i did enjoy the 100 dollar daiwa fuego fast gearratio. Rods im also spit, i love the luvitas rod but i do have a few shimano rods that i love to, at the moment i use a lot of my 10-30g 8 foot ABU vendetta, i really love the lock mecanisms for the reel and the winngrip its very sensitive and feels so great in the hand.
Wish Diawa would work on their spools. If they did I would switch to them for all my reels. Casting distance is a big draw for me. The upper end Shimanos are designed to toss braid better.
I just took apart my Shimano 2021 Scorpion DC and was a little disappointed to see that both the worm gear and the ratchet wheel are plastic. My Lew's Speed Spool 2nd gen has stainless steel and brass and cost far less.
I've owned 3 backbays and I think they are bulletproof!!!
Got a new Stradic 8000 and it's a beast, combo with Prevail 10ft absolute slayer n
The Shimano Stella is Mostly compared to the Daiwa Saltiga.
After having problems with Shimano ive switched. Every Shimano I bought did the same thing. Locked up during fishing. And a couple were barely used
Been a shimano man for years and have to agree once you get into the bigger models 4000 size and up Daiwa takes the cake in durability.
Yeah guys idk. My budget only really allows for bg's, spheros' and battle 3's. Overall, I think they all have their places. Once you get to the higher prices, I would just choose a van staal. But then again I'm mainly a surf fishermen.
Not gonna lie....this video got some attention. Well played, Sir, well played 💯
For the last 4 years i have used the Daiwa Tatula for saltwater fishing and have even dropped it in the water. Took it home and had no water inside. I only buy Daiwa now and agree with everything you said. I was even gifted by my wife the Daiwa Exist, but i have yet to take that one out, one day i will when I know it will not leave my hands. BTW would have never gotten it for myself if my wife did not get it for me, it stays in the safe.
what about a zebco
When it comes to carp fishing in Europe, the Shimano Tribal range is superior. Most professional casters use shimano rods and reels and they are the most popular. Carp fishing casting records are also on Shimano rods (especially the Tx7). When it comes to baitcasters, most people I've talked to prefer Shimano. Spinning reels are where Daiwa has finally caught up with Shimano, and both brands make very good models. I had plenty of reels from both brands and I actually enjoy using both. I actually like my Shimano Stella more than I do my Daiwa Morethan Branzino, even though the latter is more expensive.
I saw you had a Mirrolure Lil John tied on that rod with the Procyon. Hands down my favorite inshore soft plastic!
Slays everything. Just started using it
Looks just like a shrimp darting through the water. They cast like a bullet too.
So now “color” is more important than bearing count?? Wtf?
I’ve come to be pretty unbiased and have a few of each. I’ve learned personally I much prefer Shimano’s baitcasters that I use for Bass and such in freshwater. But I prefer Daiwa and Penn for spinning reels, particularly for use in saltwater or surf fishing.
I don’t understand why some people are so set on one particular brand. It’s not something like a car. Most fisherman I know have at least 4 or more different setups. Reels are relatively cheap, so why not have a spread?
The older daiwas and cheaper ones yes the new ones feel amazing but the tech they've put in with the sealing I cant maintain them myself and im not leaving it up to daiwa to tell me how much it cost when i send it too them
Daiwa and Shimano are both stepping up in the budget range, when before it was daiwa dominated. Shimanos new Nasci and Sahara FJ are quite nice offerings. Shimanos Spheros SW is currently the best budget saltwater reel atm, so it beats the daiwa BG there. But if you turn your head and look into the higher end, the Daiwa Saltiga beats the Stella and Certate beats Twinpower. Daiwa's MQ reels are just more refined and have tighter tolerances. Even Alan Hawk rated the saltiga as the best reel in the world right now. In conclusion, Shimano and Daiwa are almost equal on budget range, mid end is dominated by Shimano because of the aluminium gears compared to daiwas mid end zinc gears like the saltist, and at the top of the range its Daiwa. At the end of the day, we benefit hugely as a consumer from the competition of these two companies. Just my two cents
Do u know if there’s a big difference between the nasci and miravel? And are the components in the miravel and ultegra a huge difference?
@@Rpark1214 As far as I know the Miravel uses the Magnumlite rotor and CI4 body compared to nascis standard rotor and body. Insides are basically the same. The ultegra is a huge step up from the miravel, because it uses the same worm shaft system from the twinpower and stella. I'd go for ultegra if its a reasonable price.
@@danielwutfisho ah I see. I didn’t know the miravel had the ci4 body. In ur opinion is the miravel that much better than the Nasci for $20 more?
@@danielwutfisho I just added a 4000 sedona for $40 and a 5000 bg to my collection but was considering either the ultegra, nasci, or miravel next
@@Rpark1214 Nah man nasci is tried and tested, smooth enough and miravel isn't that big of an upgrade, just bit lighter. You can't go wrong with a Sedona and BG as long as you rinse them after fishing. Enjoy ur new gear 👍
The shamato vanford is made in Malaysia
My Laguna LT4000-C says made in Vietnam on the box.
Been fishing for over 40 years. Both freshwater and surf. Used just about every major brand reels out there, from 1000 to 5000 sizes. Daiwa and Shimano are superior over all other brands. Penn reels are significantly heavier than their competition, and not nearly as smooth. They also become clunkier, noisier, and less smooth over time (I do service my reels every winter). But they don't easily fail and tend to last and be usable for a long time. Although I've owned and used other brands, such as Pflueger, Kastking, Okuma, Abu Garcia, they are all inferior for one reason or another to the main two brands discussed here. IMHO Daiwa makes longer lasting, better reels for saltwater use, while Shimano reels are slightly smoother and my choice for freshwater use. Yes, Shimano bail wire is ridiculously thin, but I never had one bend on me. Of course, if you abuse your equipment by carelessly throwing it onto rocks, sand etc., it will get damaged, regardless of brand.
I fish freshwater (Wisconsin)... Mainly using the Shimano Sedonas. It's light enough, smooth, and strong enough to battle up to 3' Northern Pike so far. I've dropped a Sedona into the lake off the side of my boat. Sat there for about 5 minutes until we could fish it off the bottom 😂. I just shook it off and hoped for the best. I had all intents of opening it up to dry it out. Of course I never got around to to it. It still runs buttery smooth after about 3 seasons of use. Great freshwater reels.
I live in Japan and everyone here knows Shimano is king. I do agree dawia is cheaper but like the saying goes, you get what you pay for. 1. Shimano 2. Dawia.
Like Daiwa putting zinc gears in $200 reels. Daiwa reels under $250 are trash.
Except Daiwa has a 700 rod and a 600 reel, does Shimano have something that nice?
@@rickyrodriguez9831 have you heard of the Shimano Stella? Don’t get me wrong I like the pricier Daiwas.
@@rickyrodriguez9831 They do, in fact. Search for the Shimano Poison Ultima rod and the Shimano 21 Antares DC reel.
@@andizgarta6773 that rod is a collab with jackall
I've been fishing for 31 years. I used to buy nothing but shimano reels from 1996 to 2008. Then starting around 2010, Shimano started cutting corners and raising prices. I bought a daiwa exceler spinning reel in 2012. So much smoother, better drag, stronger gears. Daiwa has the perfect balance between smooth and tough. Daiwa is way ahead of Shimano in terms of technology. I just recently bought a daiwa legalis and daiwa revros. Unbelievable reels. Look up Alan hawk's reel reviews. He rated the daiwa bg the best budget saltwater reel under $150. He rated it better than a Shimano socorro. The daiwa saltiga blows the Stella out of the water. Daiwa is king.
Two letters that ruin the technology argument: DC.
21 Spheros SW is new king at this level according to Alan Hawk latest review.
I have 2 Shimano casting reels I bought in 1988 and have been the only 2 that I have used all these years. Now Diawa brags about their technology that just matched what Shimano had in 1988! I recently bought a Diawa and a Lews reel. The Shimanos show hardly any sign of ware and cast as easily, are as birdnest resistant and work just as smoothly as the newer reels.
That's 35 years of hard bass fishing and technology they are now beginning to match.
I put the new reels on a flipping rod and a grassbed rod.
Love both brands. I Kayak fish in Saltwater and the only bearing I've replaced in my Ci4 is line roller due to lack of maintenance and It's had a lot of use. The Shimano bearings can't be too bad. But Daiwa Gekkabijin and Certate LTs are my favourites to use👌
I skimped and bought an Okuma VS30 back in 2003, fished nothing but saltwater, and I'm ashamed to admit it, but it's never been maintained - only rinsed when I got home.
It's still - to this day - the smoothest reel I've ever held.
I haven't seen a decent Okuma since they discontinued the VS series.
Oh, and Diawa is Chinese - Shimono is Japanese.
Where are you getting your info, bro?
(I know the main distribution dude over there)
I own no less than 15 Okuma's and a VS 55
Daiwa is Japanese, Shimano is Japanese, okuma is Taiwanese, Penn is American, pflueger is American, avet is American,
@@Peter-qb7nl
If that's correct, then it's a recent occurrence since my time the industry.
But you could be right - I'll admit I not up to "current" events.
@@Peter-qb7nl
Oh, and by the way - could you please pass on your source of that?
I got both of them shimano and daiwa reels. I love both
Diawa Bg used to be good and have a lot of Chinese cheap parts on it!
Bought a Diawa Fuego 4000 lt and started spinning rough after less than 6 months!
This is a mag sealed reel!!!
I have a Shimano Saragossa and it has no issues for 3 yrs....
You might want to check your facts.
Diawa is mostly China.
Shimano is Japan and Malaysia!
Anyways I go by experience.... not reviews or ratings which mostly are biased because of receiving free products and sponsorship!
I love my Daiwas but my JDM Luvias just came "Made in China" with no warning that they were switching factories from Japan. Not cool, still a great reel but I'm not trying to support CCP.
Sucks to be daiwa fanboys
I have both....diawa tatula bait casters and Shimano stradic spinners....my son uses all diawa spinners...and guess what...his 6yr old reels are just as old and still just as smooth and dependable as my 6 yr old shimanos...for paddle fishing I use diawa bg 90 and 60's...operate awesome...I have a Shimano Sahara 3ooo as well....13 yrs old and I use it for channel cat....works awesome.....I feel like people need to understand that manufacturing, due to cnc machining, has been pretty much perfected....our cars engines are now marvels to behold, rifle Scopes are now all precision marvels and likewise our fishing reels are all awesome.....about the only difference in what items do is HOW they do it...I understand a preference towards HOW a reel does what it does....but other than that....bla bla bla
I have both stella 8000 2020 and saltiga 8000 2021. i would say.... if you want to go for feeling smooth and strong- go with daiwa. If you want for saving weight and compact look- go with shimano. Both of them very smooth....but saltiga 2020 is beating stella right now...and im feeling that after using stella around 50 fishing trip....the quality of Shimano in the past are not here any more. You can feel the stella gears are grinding but daiwa doen't have.
Not sure where you get your daiwa reel. In Singapore Shimano is cheaper than Daiwa..
Shimano Sarogosa not mentioned? Amazing
Man you are absolutely not right. Nasci and Sahara are same real but Nasci have water proof seals nothing more. And you say "Sahara is trash and Nasci is one of the best real"
Make little bit research before make videos like this.
The new nasci might beat the bg or match because has a screw in handle now I only use diawa or shmano sold all myself penn reels I think the nasic 21 will be a great reel.
I bought nasci 2021, light & smooth . So far so good
If u wanna know the full potential of both companies, you have to look into the JDM reels. There are muuuch more models and technologies in the JDMs
Check out my daiwa sol 3 and see what happens and its my second one. There's good and bad in both. My BG has been great(old model)
Thank you for recomendation!
I recently bought some old Diawas and Shimanos at the local Goodwill for $2 - $4 each. After a clean and grease, they work as well as anything I've tried new. I couldn't imagine spending $200-$300 on a reel.
dont need to spend 200-300 especially for shimano and daiwa. Budget reels like the sedona and laguna are such good value and stand the test of time.
if you fish a lot, you start noticing differences. its all about going out to have fun but its more fun if you have the right gear.
@@yikwonjang2978 of course thats true. Just like the difference between a toyota and a mercedes. I myself own a Luvias LT, Certate SW, Saltist MQ, Vanford and list goes on. Just saying that there are heaps of good budget reels at the moment. Spheros SW, Nasci, Daiwa BG..
I fish Daiwa BG 10's and 20's great spinners. I have a Shimano ultra lite BX 10 for trout. I like both of these reel companies. Los Angeles
The new Shimano Spheros SWA destroys the BG and are similarly priced in my part of the world. Penn Spinfisher VI is also way more value than the BG. I own all 3 so would know. Not sure about reels at other price points.
Interesting. A few things have come to light since you made this. This past month i purchased 4 Daiwa reels, all my first. I wanted to stay away as i discovered a major flaw in one of their rod lines & captured it on video w/dozens of pics from others a few years back. But Daiwa worked with me & sent me my replacement so i didn't post the really bad vids showing it splinter in slo-mo at half it's rated load.
I must say i really liked the technology Daiwa has invested into their reels. I can see & feel the benefits. Still Shimano does still make some exceptional pieces. The new Nasci's are way better for example. I like the Nexave line. Inexpensive yet functional. I just got a Legalis 6K & spooled on 300yd of 40lb braid (most said no way). I like the Daiwa technology but here in Hawaii #1 is Penn (because of the price point). Then Shimano. I hardly know anyone into Daiwa. But when i go to TX there's Daiwa users everywhere. OR & WA it's Okuma. FL & CA it's Shimano.
Okuma is owned by a Taiwanese billionaire & the company owns ALL their factories Worldwide outright. Not many companies can boast that. That's why Okuma rose to grab the #3 spot extremely fast. When i designed a surf rod for them i was working with their factory through the US Developer of Product Development. I had the chance to go with Penn but chose Okuma. Daiwa from what i see has quality products & when i travel abroad they're bigger than Shimano. What Shimano does better than Daiwa hands down is marketing. Meaning if i sell a Shimano product per $100 vs a Daiwa product the money is more noticeable. I know as i have hands in Amazon that has showed me this.
It's good to go with your gut sir. But it's better to stick with facts & technological info & not dwell too long on any unit. This'll win over more anglers over time. Otherwise it's a "he said, she said" debate rather than educating those to your point of view. I like your presentation by the way. Take care.
Have a couple of cheapo Daiwa's and currently have Shimano Ci4+ Vanford and two of the New FC Nascis (3000 and 5000) - I can service the Shimanos - I cannot service any Daiwa or have to pay stupid prices due to the unobtainium "MagSeal". The Shimano handle feels much better and more solid.
I just bought a Diawa saltist mq 4000. Am I biased? No. In the end, for me, it's about durability. I'm just taking up fishing, so have nothing to go on from years of experience. Looked at Shimano, Penn, Phluger, and the all have reels that are well made and long lasting. I decided on Diawa. Time will tell if I made the right choice.