As a fellow canadian i want to say thank you, your reviews on the sony zve10 helped me build my youtube channel and now i have almost 4k subs. Thank you once again
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Marc, Great Review, I own and use the Comica VM 20 as a Boom Mic and their Vimo C3 for interviews. Im creative developer and content creator for a busy and very noisy Diesel Performance shop and these are great job at canceling out the background noise. The quality for this price point is amazing.
You mention the magnet instead of clip issue. While not built in, this seems like a thing one could add. As a car phone mount, I have this small circular balll-and-socket magnet mount and a thin metal disk that sticks to the phone. This seems like a pretty simple thing to make for a mic like this.
They should have made a receiver with the Sony digital interface shoe, just like DJI did. no cables, right into camera, all 4 channels at once. but it looks like a budget option. On my multicam setups I use the new Ulanzi U-mic w/ internal recording, and when more mic's are needed I add my rode wireless go (1st edition) or my godox MovLink M2's. Never had to record more than 5 people talking fortunately.
I bought one of these, decided to try it on a very reverberant stage for a musical just for people with single lines. Failed miserably, as did the DJI I tried it against. It’s not the situation it was designed for and even adding a headset mic it was still distorting like crazy even with the volume set to 1. Apart from that it’s really impressive. For regular talking it’s great sounding, the weight of the transmitter is amazing, actors commenting after having a Shure Tx with two AAA batteries in it that they couldn’t feel it at all. Would be nice to have more specs from Comica regarding the input impedance of the 3.5mm jack input and about how long it waits before disconnecting a Tx it hasn’t seen. I will be certainly be keeping mine as in the right situation it will definitely save your ass.
As a teacher and theater director, I’m interested in your comment on using it for a musical. Why do you think it was distorting? Was it a long distance from the sound booth or interference from the rest of your audio system? I’m thinking of this more for interviews in controlled places, not primarily for theater, but that could be a great extra use if it could be worked out. I don’t have any audio system yet - just a beginning system in a black box performance space.
@ there’s a fair bit of latency so that definitely made the situation worse mixing with UHF and I think it’s the auto gain not understanding spill from other performers. Had the Rx mounted side of stage and no drop outs. Need to give it some more testing.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thanks :) Btw: Are there any smaller receivers available? want to use it mounted on a Qoocam 3 Ultra but don:t known where it would be out of sight/stitch line :/
Always love your stuff, it's the reason i grabbed my zv-e10, always my go to, and these i was very interested in, and not for any of the reasons you went over, I honestly want to use them for twitch streams with multiple people. I've setup my home office to be an entire streaming room with cameras setup at different angles, and I have been trying to figure out the best way to do the audio. I have 2 microphone systems that work well, but I know i want to have the ability to have more people join in. These seem to be the ONLY option of 4 mics in one great package. After watching your video i think i have to grab them, i think they are going to work perfectly for my application.
@@buildingsheriffthat's a good point. I personally rarely ever use internal recording. BUT i rarely ever go a distance from the receiver or behind walls. Clean sound is more important for me than internal recording but you are correct that drop outs can be avoided. DJI mic from my experience has high self noise when not using internal recording.
I think at this pricepoint i would Rather 3 sets of ulanzi or Neewer with the internal recording. With the sales or coupon they get around 90dollars for 2 microphones . Maybe they sound not like my rode go II BUT much cheaper and in general the internal arorage saves lives . But thank you for the review . Interesting set .
Great demonstration of some very promising mics. Four mics with the ability to use lav mac is really awesome! 32bit float would have been nice, but the price would have been higher. The Hollyland Lark M2 has way better noise reduction than this one and if you use their phone app, noise reduction can be turned down. If Hollyland came out with a four mic setup, that'd be amazing!
I have the xd-boom and their hand held wireless mic. They have excellent sound. I wish they would offer a wireless lav with on-board recording. I was working with someone else that had the one from Rode, I'm spoiled now. I'm less concerned with 32 bit. It's nice but I've done fine without it for years. The on-board recording has become a must.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis It is, new logo? I don't think I changed anything but this mic system looks pretty sweet. Maybe I should start making videos again? Even Armchair Videographer ones
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ah! OK that did change, I figured I'd make it more directed at music and leave room for other channels/topics. You wouldn't believe how crazy busy it's been down here in Florida!
Fantastic review as always. Spooky timing I was only thinking of options for more than 2 transmitters to 1 receiver. Sounds good and the price is very attractive. What lavalier mic would you recommend with this set up given the budget cost of the system? The one you were using in the test sounded very good.
Id on't get it. Why would I use XLR plugs if the recorder has combo jacks and I can just use the jacks? Stereo TRS 3.5 to dual mono 6.3mm cable costs $7.
You can do that as well. But, the XLR is a balanced cable, which means it has two signal wires and a ground. This design helps cancel out noise and interference. 1/4-inch TS is an unbalanced cable, which can pick up noise and interference more easily. But honestly - either will work in this scenario.
Well i got the new comica vemo Q4...to my suprised it was a diffect, connection loose in between recording, have to record in range of five meter but still looses connection with reciver. Forget about using 2 mic..i have no idea what am i suppose to do.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis yes, I can even hire a sound technician but the problem with the Vimo Q won't be solved since they work very very bad in an environment like a traffic road. Most of you are testing the Vimo in the middle of nowhere. I use them for journalism, in the crowd and believe me, they are bad.
Hey brother, should I buy the zve10 over the a6400 just for the price difference. Im into photography and I'm planning to upgrade my sony a6000 into either of these two
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I'm a bit short on cash for a6400 i'm just a student from ph haha but is the zve10 still considerable for photography or should i buy a used a7ii which has almost the same price with the brand new zve10? I already tried to use zve10 but not a7ii. I'm a bit worried about the af slow that i read on reviews
@@gyredynamicsa7ii is around 2 generations under the af that the a6400 uses , but unless youre doing fast paced work or sports , go get the a7ii If you have the slightest interest for video , go for the a6400. Zve10 ditches the evf which you might need in sunny conditoons
They need to pay Sony some money to license their fancy hotshoe connector thingy and get 4 channels flowing through it like the ECM-M1. Recording all 4 right on the camera with no messy 3.5mm wire I would pay for that
Is it just me that wants a plain wireless microphone? Without a logo or in this case a bright orange stripe and LED light. The most discrete is the DJI Mic 2 but even then you can see all the tech inside albeit dark.
yes - a lot of people want that. The best option is the Hollyland Lark M2 because it is small and comes with a reusable black sticker to hide the logo. th-cam.com/video/Zq_45WiRlo8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ecLx9CsP7XWJRKBM
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I still think the Lark M2 is obnoxious (probably the most obnoxious actually) but love that they give you a sticker. I think mic companies are banking on people not bothering to cover it up and therefore this is perfectly intentional marketing strategy tbh.
@@HotelSeptember I mean I agree. When the first Rodes came out the first thing I thought was "Why is the transmitter shiny? Why does the clip have a huge logo on it? So obvious and unprofessional." But maybe them being so obnoxious was part of their success, people love a brand apparently. And it's no surprise that all the copycats, well, copied that aspect. I went with the PicoMic because it's almost as small as a lav mic with a shirt clip by itself.
it’s the same with almost ever wireless consumer mic. They batteries will last for years, long past most people’s upgrade cycles. you won’t be using mic’s like this a decade from now
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Yes, they are all like that! A reason to avoid, unless you like to be ripped off on infinite repeat. Like Adobe software, a rental, something for people who are ok with thieves, or the WEF, also thieves. ;-)
Hey Mark! Comica has just blatantly stolen part of your video (when you explain how to set up 4 channels) and put that clip on their channel called “Comica Audio” here on TH-cam. Just a heads up
As a fellow canadian i want to say thank you, your reviews on the sony zve10 helped me build my youtube channel and now i have almost 4k subs. Thank you once again
That’s great to hear!!
I’m from Russia and I’ll also say thank you to Mark - his reviews helped me grow to an audience of 6.5k
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@9:20 The chest hair comment is pure gold! Awesome review Mark, didn't even know something like these existed.
Marc, Great Review, I own and use the Comica VM 20 as a Boom Mic and their Vimo C3 for interviews. Im creative developer and content creator for a busy and very noisy Diesel Performance shop and these are great job at canceling out the background noise. The quality for this price point is amazing.
Mark Bennett has the exact number of hands that are needed for this thumbnail which is many.
🤣🤣 nice to see you, Wayne!!
Man I love the value you bring to us bro
I appreciate that!!
Still gonna buy the Hollyland Lark M2 for my ZV-E10 😃
that’s overall my favourite mic
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis well there we have it🎉 still a great vid
Bruh... I did the same thing
Have you tried the new Godox Magic XT1 🔥@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
yes - I have a video ready on the Godox, but they want me to not publish it until more stock comes in.
Love my Vimo Q. 4 ch for the win!
You mention the magnet instead of clip issue. While not built in, this seems like a thing one could add. As a car phone mount, I have this small circular balll-and-socket magnet mount and a thin metal disk that sticks to the phone. This seems like a pretty simple thing to make for a mic like this.
Thank you, Mark! Comica is a great system!
Subscribed after the first minute great quality video man!!
thanks!!
They should have made a receiver with the Sony digital interface shoe, just like DJI did. no cables, right into camera, all 4 channels at once. but it looks like a budget option. On my multicam setups I use the new Ulanzi U-mic w/ internal recording, and when more mic's are needed I add my rode wireless go (1st edition) or my godox MovLink M2's. Never had to record more than 5 people talking fortunately.
Thank you for this review, I'm considering getting The Comica
Will buy just for the Tonka-orange cables!
hahaha - they do look awesome!!
I bought one of these, decided to try it on a very reverberant stage for a musical just for people with single lines. Failed miserably, as did the DJI I tried it against. It’s not the situation it was designed for and even adding a headset mic it was still distorting like crazy even with the volume set to 1.
Apart from that it’s really impressive. For regular talking it’s great sounding, the weight of the transmitter is amazing, actors commenting after having a Shure Tx with two AAA batteries in it that they couldn’t feel it at all.
Would be nice to have more specs from Comica regarding the input impedance of the 3.5mm jack input and about how long it waits before disconnecting a Tx it hasn’t seen.
I will be certainly be keeping mine as in the right situation it will definitely save your ass.
As a teacher and theater director, I’m interested in your comment on using it for a musical. Why do you think it was distorting? Was it a long distance from the sound booth or interference from the rest of your audio system? I’m thinking of this more for interviews in controlled places, not primarily for theater, but that could be a great extra use if it could be worked out. I don’t have any audio system yet - just a beginning system in a black box performance space.
@ there’s a fair bit of latency so that definitely made the situation worse mixing with UHF and I think it’s the auto gain not understanding spill from other performers.
Had the Rx mounted side of stage and no drop outs. Need to give it some more testing.
REALLY interesting…not gonna lie I was sold until the “no internal recording” that’s such a huge benefit nowadays…
Thanks for the video!!
Thank you for the great video & detailing how to properly use them 🤙🏽
FYI: There are double magnets with double sided glue tape on them so you can easily upgrade that
a good plan
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thanks :) Btw: Are there any smaller receivers available? want to use it mounted on a Qoocam 3 Ultra but don:t known where it would be out of sight/stitch line :/
STYX! Yes! Great video
haha. Yes!!
Always love your stuff, it's the reason i grabbed my zv-e10, always my go to, and these i was very interested in, and not for any of the reasons you went over, I honestly want to use them for twitch streams with multiple people. I've setup my home office to be an entire streaming room with cameras setup at different angles, and I have been trying to figure out the best way to do the audio. I have 2 microphone systems that work well, but I know i want to have the ability to have more people join in. These seem to be the ONLY option of 4 mics in one great package. After watching your video i think i have to grab them, i think they are going to work perfectly for my application.
i have this mic and they sound so goodddd
"No internal recording" = deal breaker. Thanks for the review.
Why is it a deal breaker. casue the Quality of the mic is fine and the price is beter than DJI
When you work professionally, you can’t afford to have a dropout that you cannot fix in post. Hence needing internal recording.
@@buildingsheriffthat's a good point. I personally rarely ever use internal recording. BUT i rarely ever go a distance from the receiver or behind walls. Clean sound is more important for me than internal recording but you are correct that drop outs can be avoided. DJI mic from my experience has high self noise when not using internal recording.
I think at this pricepoint i would Rather 3 sets of ulanzi or Neewer with the internal recording. With the sales or coupon they get around 90dollars for 2 microphones . Maybe they sound not like my rode go II BUT much cheaper and in general the internal arorage saves lives . But thank you for the review . Interesting set .
Great demonstration of some very promising mics. Four mics with the ability to use lav mac is really awesome! 32bit float would have been nice, but the price would have been higher.
The Hollyland Lark M2 has way better noise reduction than this one and if you use their phone app, noise reduction can be turned down. If Hollyland came out with a four mic setup, that'd be amazing!
Domo, Domo to you in your shiny silver spacesuit with smoke machine in the background. 🛸
🤣🤣🤣
I have the xd-boom and their hand held wireless mic. They have excellent sound. I wish they would offer a wireless lav with on-board recording. I was working with someone else that had the one from Rode, I'm spoiled now. I'm less concerned with 32 bit. It's nice but I've done fine without it for years. The on-board recording has become a must.
You’re in luck the boom xd-pro does have on board recording. The original Boom XD does not. amzn.to/3XS5EZt
This seems great! Do you think that this will work well for sending audio from 4 persons to a computer to use on MS Teams?
It should, yes
This is indeed the best noice canceling i ever heard.
i got the comica vimo c3 and Quality of the mic is fine but the noice the canceling just suck.
Can you use these microphones to hide them and record whenever?
Mark , hopefully you get the E10 mark 2 review unit early
Any other recommendations for a 4 channel mic?
70k subs? B'y da jumpin'! Congrats buddy!
You have perhaps 1 or 2 friends, that would utilize up to 3 :P
dat you, Kevin?? fancy new logo
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis It is, new logo? I don't think I changed anything but this mic system looks pretty sweet. Maybe I should start making videos again? Even Armchair Videographer ones
@@KPGuitarStudios not logo - I meant name. KPGuitarStudios - hadn’t noticed that before!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Ah! OK that did change, I figured I'd make it more directed at music and leave room for other channels/topics. You wouldn't believe how crazy busy it's been down here in Florida!
Hi mark could this 4 Work with dji pocket 3??
69k subs! Nice!
thanks!!
You can see that screen pretty good in the daylight. Too many good wireless mics have really bad screens that are unusable in sunlight.
it’s a nice bright screen
Fantastic review as always. Spooky timing I was only thinking of options for more than 2 transmitters to 1 receiver. Sounds good and the price is very attractive. What lavalier mic would you recommend with this set up given the budget cost of the system? The one you were using in the test sounded very good.
if yo need more than two transmitters, I would go with this.
Id on't get it. Why would I use XLR plugs if the recorder has combo jacks and I can just use the jacks? Stereo TRS 3.5 to dual mono 6.3mm cable costs $7.
You can do that as well. But, the XLR is a balanced cable, which means it has two signal wires and a ground. This design helps cancel out noise and interference. 1/4-inch TS is an unbalanced cable, which can pick up noise and interference more easily. But honestly - either will work in this scenario.
Would you consider these better than the ulanzi wireless mics?
not really. similar in quality and the Ulanzi is cheaper with internal recording. if you only need two or less mics, the Ulanzi is the better deal
Well i got the new comica vemo Q4...to my suprised it was a diffect, connection loose in between recording, have to record in range of five meter but still looses connection with reciver. Forget about using 2 mic..i have no idea what am i suppose to do.
contact comica and get a replacement
I work mostly on the streets and most of the time I have signal loss and radio interference on these mics. What can I do?
look for a mic that has internal recording. that was if your signal drops out, you’ll have a backup recording on the tramsmitter
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis yes, I can even hire a sound technician but the problem with the Vimo Q won't be solved since they work very very bad in an environment like a traffic road. Most of you are testing the Vimo in the middle of nowhere. I use them for journalism, in the crowd and believe me, they are bad.
I have had this for soooo long and keep failing to make my video on it lol 😂
me too!! finally got to it
Hey brother, should I buy the zve10 over the a6400 just for the price difference. Im into photography and I'm planning to upgrade my sony a6000 into either of these two
f photography is your main thing, I would go for the a6400
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I'm a bit short on cash for a6400 i'm just a student from ph haha but is the zve10 still considerable for photography or should i buy a used a7ii which has almost the same price with the brand new zve10? I already tried to use zve10 but not a7ii. I'm a bit worried about the af slow that i read on reviews
@@gyredynamicsa7ii is around 2 generations under the af that the a6400 uses , but unless youre doing fast paced work or sports , go get the a7ii
If you have the slightest interest for video , go for the a6400.
Zve10 ditches the evf which you might need in sunny conditoons
Am curious if the dji mic2 receiver is compatible with 4 transmitters?
no - two only
They need to pay Sony some money to license their fancy hotshoe connector thingy and get 4 channels flowing through it like the ECM-M1. Recording all 4 right on the camera with no messy 3.5mm wire I would pay for that
thats some nice noice cancelling o.o
That would be great
Could you put all 4 like around your subject and get spatial audio stuff working? o.o
DJI MIC 2 should come out with new transmitter for 4 mic...
it would be nice
Sony zv-e10 ii😊
its very good
What’s the Lavalier mic u used?
The DJI one - I should have mentioned that!! I’ll put a link
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 🙏
Can you review Godox Magic XT1, Greetings.
Yes - on the way
Is it just me that wants a plain wireless microphone? Without a logo or in this case a bright orange stripe and LED light. The most discrete is the DJI Mic 2 but even then you can see all the tech inside albeit dark.
yes - a lot of people want that. The best option is the Hollyland Lark M2 because it is small and comes with a reusable black sticker to hide the logo. th-cam.com/video/Zq_45WiRlo8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ecLx9CsP7XWJRKBM
This is what gaff tape is for.
@@aldolega sure, but why don’t these companies appreciate this need in the design phase? Or maybe they do and that’s why they make it distinctive…
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I still think the Lark M2 is obnoxious (probably the most obnoxious actually) but love that they give you a sticker.
I think mic companies are banking on people not bothering to cover it up and therefore this is perfectly intentional marketing strategy tbh.
@@HotelSeptember I mean I agree. When the first Rodes came out the first thing I thought was "Why is the transmitter shiny? Why does the clip have a huge logo on it? So obvious and unprofessional." But maybe them being so obnoxious was part of their success, people love a brand apparently. And it's no surprise that all the copycats, well, copied that aspect. I went with the PicoMic because it's almost as small as a lav mic with a shirt clip by itself.
Yeah, and the batteries in those mics are not "user replaceable"
The equivalent of buying them over and over!
it’s the same with almost ever wireless consumer mic. They batteries will last for years, long past most people’s upgrade cycles. you won’t be using mic’s like this a decade from now
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Yes, they are all like that! A reason to avoid, unless you like to be ripped off on infinite repeat. Like Adobe software, a rental, something for people who are ok with thieves, or the WEF, also thieves. ;-)
Does it work with teddy bears interviews?
if depends if they can talk
Hey Mark! Comica has just blatantly stolen part of your video (when you explain how to set up 4 channels) and put that clip on their channel called “Comica Audio” here on TH-cam. Just a heads up
Hi - thanks for the heads up - they asked me if they could do it so it's cool. But I appreciate you looking out!!
If you need a friend my rates are affordable. 😉
Nice video mark , I didn't hear any difference in sound quality between that Mic and Dji Mic 2 . It seems they did a good job with the sound quality .