Carlos Mencia v George Lopez? Joke Stealing?
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To be fair, the "kid changing the TV" joke has been done by dozens of comedians, from Ned, to George, to Jeff Foxworthy... Roseanne even did it on her show.
Still, COSBY is just about word for word
This is not stealing a joke. This joke has literally been told for decades from multiple comedians. It’s a common thing that anyone could think of that happened in almost everyone’s house back then.
Does the same apply for carlos and ari
He's still a thief. This is just 1 example
Bruh Carlos Mencia looks young af here , he said it first!!! Lol
This isn't theft, this is actually facts
Yes I totally agree it's like when I hear some old school Comics talk about the 70s with having an old Wooden Tube TV that broke, they just put a another TV right on top of it. I've heard that joke several times and I never really felt like they stole it they were just reliving the old days! Only thing is some Comics tell the joke better than the other...👈🏼
Joke stealing is real. It ruins peoples act
It's not facts for Carlos Mencia. Pretty sure his German father never did any of this.
Mencia got his ass whooped by George Lopez for stealing his jokes
Zoul125 is this about the stuff at the laugh factory? cuz i've heard rumors but never found anything substantial.
To my understanding George slammed carlos up against a wall
Theres an interview on the Howard Stern show between him and George where Lopez explains exactly what happened that night
Al S all over youtube now with joe Rogan ripping into him, calling him out on all his jokes
@Mathew Sacks Nope hes making tiktoks while still rich
George is 100% better and a real chicano
I guess if thats what you call a piece of shit
cody2167 Do you like donald trump?
@cody2167 George is God!
I'm sure you're a trumptard.
@@travelingman5146 what do you care?
@@ferndog2260 Why do you care,not what do you care!
Carlos Mencia isn't Mexican.
+James Nelson Yep, Honduran/German.
He is half central American and half Mexican. His dad was from Mexico.
No German what so ever!!!
Wow much smart
@@deboraharellano4334 his dad from Honduras, his mom mexican
"when i was a kid we had carlos" since his name is Ned who the hell is he talking about? some other kid named carlos maybe
They had a servant named Carlos, that's where he got his stage name
@@autonomous8108 actually, Mitzi Shore coined the name for Ned.
i hate your picture
@@jtsvisuals3423 bothered the hell outa me i thought i had a hair on my phone lol
Your profile pic made me think I had a loose hair on my screen
this isn't a very good example of him stealing... cause everyone parents did the same thing
You're right There are better examples of Mecia's theft out there. some that are word for word identical.
F'n Ned!
Exactly
That’s right. We all went through this. How is this stealing 🤦🏻♂️
Exactly. My parents would do this to me when they’ll buy a tv from a garage sale that didn’t have a remote. And this was already 2005
Regardless of whoever said it on stage first, it was stolen.
One of those jokes I heard so regularly as a kid I would roll my eyes at it. It's a fucking dad joke.
JESUS....did Carlos (ned) write anything?
Gda Rippa hell no
Yes. His name on other people's jokes😂
the78wildcat - 😂 100%
He wrote for unemployment. That's for sure.
Lol his video was about 20 years before George
Carlos personal friend Bobby Lee (well known for mad tv) admitted that ''Carlos'' stole jokes from him too.
Two unfunny hacks
But he hasn't proved it verbally or by video. Simply just stating. Oh you still jokes. Doesn't make it true
@@frogmanpipes9561 it Kinda does when a bunch of comedians say it and even your personal friend admitting thst you stole a joke form him, and thst guy was Bobby Lee himself, but sure keep belivein ned. No one really cares about his unfunny ass anyways.
@@Danovio let me start off by asking you do you believe. That he stole this joke from Lopez?
@@frogmanpipes9561 bobby lee admitted back then on video, that ned stole his jokes. And again this week on tiger belly. Check it out
It's a generic joke in general. Race has literally no influence.
When then you miss the joke
@@sob5607 you replied back to an 8 year old comment?
The joke is too plain and universal. I'm sure that joke has been thought about by everyone.
I'd like to say oh yeah thief blah blah. But this is wrong. A horrible example of something that pretends to be proof. Click bait.
Paul Rodriguez was the first to use that joke, both of these guys stole it from him.
Way too exact. That wasn’t universal.
@@rivermcratt3683 it wasnt stolen, its universal hispanic culture
The premise of growing up broke where the one kid played the roll of the remote control seems to be universal among Latinos. I can relate to this joke and if I was a comedian I can see myself coming up with this same material.
Victor Salazar .yup. . My asshole brother would be like "bro check it out " from another room then when I get there he'd be like turn off the light. ... same basic concept
He got his @$$ beat for it lol
would've been smart to include the dates of when each of these were performed...
Right!!
Mencias was first... Didn't mean it's his tho
Isnt it weird that Carlos video are from the early 90s and George lopez video is from the 2000s.
I also find it interesting that carlos went on bobby lee's pod cast. They talked about it. But bobby didn't bring no written or video proof. All that was said. Was you steel jokes. If someone really wanted to prove it. Why don't they do this?
@@frogmanpipes9561 yes. Never any proof . only 2 examples of a lame cosby joke and a wall joke done by like 5 other comedians. And then when they start messing with him about his ethnicity...thats where they lose me. Thats where it sounds like strait up hating
@@frogmanpipes9561 There isn't a need for video proof when these guys were at the comedy store every week, eventually witnessing it themselves. Bobby even had friends that Carlos stole from. I like Carlos, but even he knows he stole and remixed other peoples bits, he just doesn't want to admit it. th-cam.com/video/1CQ_KL3KHhA/w-d-xo.html
Comedians often use alot of their back catalog for specials, George Lopez has been doing comedy years before Carlos was even a thing. That clip of Carlos was from a IIRC a 10-15min segment, where multiple comedians would fill an hour of stand up. So Carlos was 1 of 4-5 comedians to fill that show. My point being, is that George Lopez probably used that joke alot over his years before really making it big, and decided to use it in one of his specials, where as Carlos probably heard it at one of the shows George did, that had no networking and reworked it enough to use in this 10-15 min segment of his. I mean, he didn't just take Lopez's joke, but also the way Lopez is known for delivering jokes, his style. I use to watch mind of mencia, and never once did he tell a joke with that same type of delivery/stance. The only real thing, it seems, that mencia created was his "de de dee" catch phrase.
@@blueskadoo1402 thats bull... Other comedians do the same joke. And it was about george Bush. I dont think it would be a good joke saying bill clinton wants to build a wall . George lopez is full of it. They call Carlos(Ned) a fake Mexican when his mom is Mexican and Carlos speaks fluid spanish but you side with George Lopez whom doesnt even speak Spanish.
that noise with your logo at the end - RIP my ear drums
It's actually my joke. They both stole it from me
George is a king of comedy. Ned "Carlos" is nothing but a jester.
Hard to tell. I'm not Mexican but both jokes brings back memories 😅
Can you steal an experience, that was a common thing back in the day. I also remember standing by the TV holding the antenna while my mom watched her novelas. Saying " Don't move Jr."
We all joked about being remotes if we grew up before remotes. Plus, Mencia looks 18 and Lopez looks 50.
My dad used to yell to me when I was UPSTAIRS in my room to come downstairs to change the channel lol
The original joke was from Freddie Prinze back when the original "clicker" remotes became the craze.
Oh my god I can't think of a comedian who hasn't used that joke.
Its not jokes stealing because that's how it really was back then
I use to ask my dad can I see the remote and he would pick it up and say here your looking at it lol
It's got buttons, numbers, here's where the batteries go.
Yeah I wouldn't say stolen, just normal stock materiel. :p
Omg! am i the only one who was watching this while on the munber 2 pot? When i heard the water running at the end of this video i about flipped out thinking is that my ASS making that noise? Lol.
Sorry 😂
I mean this sounds like a common thing for older generations. I see how that is a joke everyone makes up. Hell this is one of my go to complaints about child hood and i never ever heard these jokes until today
That happened to almost everybody in the old days. That kids were the remote contr
George Lopez runs circles around Mencia lol
The hitting on the head was a bit spot-on. But asking a kid to change channels, even I have thought about that joke.
Carlos video looks like it was shot years earlier then George lopez
My dad would bang on the wall when I was in the bed to get me to come hand him the remote 2 feet away from him.
While I do think Carlos is a joke thief, that was a pretty common thing as a kid. I was doing that same joke when I was like in 7th grade with my friends about how I was excited we got a TV with a remote etc.
It’s really the idea of no idea original there’s nothing new under the sun.
Its not identical.. idk why people think they can own a concept..
Its like if you was on welfare food but someone else talked about welfare food.. he only person that can talk about welfare food?
Ned Arnel Mencia, known professionally as Carlos Mencia is a Honduran-born American comedian, writer, and actor. His style of comedy is often political and involves issues of race, culture, criminal justice, and social class. Wikipedia
Born: October 22, 1967 (age 52 years), San Pedro Sula, Honduras
Full name: Ned Arnel Mencía
Height: 5′ 8″
Spouse: Amy Mencia (m. 2003)
Nationality: American, Honduran
Take it for what you want.
1. Mencia looks super young here. Lopez, not.
2. This is not a unique premiss. It's been told by so many people. I my self as an 80's kid, was "the remote" for a couple of years growing up. As many other kids of my era.
When he hit the scene he had everyone laughing their asses off and buzzing with predictions on how big he would becomes. But behind the scenes everyone knew he was robbing comics blind. The crowds hadn't caught it until people effected spoke up. Got bigger when TH-cam came around. Truth be told. They didn't say shit until they got robbed themselves.
No because nobody spoke up until Rogan called him out and he didn't steal from Rogan. Mencia was also stealing from and bumping smaller comics
Exactly! If not for Rogan confronting him about it and standing up to him without backing down he would have gotten away with it. Rogan justifiably ruined this man's career.
What is this revisionist history?
I say it's carlos's joke that special was from the 90's George Lopez was from 2003
He did this to Dave Chapel as well
really? you know how many people have done that exact same - "we used to have to get up to change the channel" joke and probably 50% would end with them being hit to go and do it. Its an easy, tired punchline. Its not plagerism.
its not even a funny joke.
FlashMeterRed, that is absolutely true. He is a total hack, with the easiest, most obvious, staid and boring jokes. But in addition, he has stolen a LOT. Stealing, as in...jokes that are not obvious, and come from very specific situations, where often the wording is near verbatim to the original. I could excuse a couple of those as an accident, or "parallel thinking", but when you hear with your own ears, live and in person, over the course of years....dozens and dozens of lifted jokes that you could identify as lifted...that's no longer a coincidence.
You would need to show the dates of these performances to determine who did it FIRST.
I was the I-robot vacuum cleaner, the dishwasher, the car wash and the tv remote.
There was no joke stealing as a mexican we all kinda have the same life story.
Cris Lopez keep telling yourself that
Johnny Cage you wouldn't know unless your mexican and it is true so i don't have to tell myself anything
Cris Lopez Even though it's idiotic and ridiculous to claim that all Mexicans "have the same life story"; it's irrelevant.
The joke begins as intellectual property from the point it was first used in a commercial setting; It becomes copyrighted material at the point it appears on a commercially distributed work.
While it is difficult for individuals to prosecute for a single verbal infringement (i.e. on-stage, theater setting); it is easier to argue a lawsuit after multiple such infringements, or infringement of distributed works.
Carlos mencia isn't Mexican
raymond guajardo We are not talking specifically about Carlos Mencia.
Both did a great job telling the joke. What’s funny is when they both told joke I knew we’re they were going .
Cuz they stole it from Paul Rodriguez many years before that
This doesn't have anything to do with the Mentstealia stuff...but just generally i don't find Carlos(Ned) funny anyways, in regard to you saying they both performed the joke well. I just don't find him funny, never did. And the robbing jokes thing just makes it worse...but yeah not a bias opinion or anything. If that means anything.
That is what we call a my generation joke. Millennials will all joke their kids will never know about yelling that their show is back kn from a commercial.
If you can relate no one can own that joke . It’s like Lebron trying to patent the phrase “Taco Tuesday”
Sure many people have similar experiences but as a comedian creates his act or performance there's many aspects of the way a joke is presented, --context, demeanor, the punchline, etc.,---that he takes into account. If you're creating something raw and completely original these aspects will be completely personal and unique. SO, when you see a comic imitate very closely the various aspects of another comic it's very easy to see that they're copying the other comic. It's not always intentional however and sometimes just cryptomnesia (subconscious stealing)...
Yes exactly. A lot of it is subconscious and even if it were stolen you can say it’s a cover!!!! Just pay your royalties especially if you do the holes better!!!!
Ayy never seen anyone use that term other than textbooks
@@boouyaymethats dumb its art..its not identical.. same concept but people dont own a concept.. as long as i dont go word for word for you..
@@JarellLavender89 the word for word part is just a matter of perfecting the joke and it just happens that both concepts shrink down to the same word for word.
It would be considered copying if you take each word and switch them with a thesaurus to make it your own.
Remember that coincidences are more common in our reality then something done on purpose
@@boouyayme i watched the george lopez thing and cosby..
Both was told differently then the other..
Same concept but told differently
But not word for word..
if i use the same concept dont mean im copying.. i cant talk about being broke and government food because someone else talked about it? If someone make a pandemic joke about being stuck in the house.. now i cant make a joke about being stuck in the house during covid?..
So anyone talking about being stuck in the house for covid is copying the other guy?
Again copying is saying it word for word not having the same concept
That joke is so hack. Who cares
The fact he isn't even Mexican . How embarrassing
I dnt think neither of them stole it because as a mexican the same happen to me they made me switch the channal n shit
Jean Sanchez ..yup. . My asshole brother would be like "bro check it out " from another room then when I get there he'd be like turn off the light. ... and basic concept
dude that was everyone
Before the days of electronic remote controls every family that had children had a remote control
I’ve seen multiple videos of Ned clearly stealing bits from people. At this point it’s no longer even a question. However, this particular video means nothing. I’ve heard at least 10 different comedians tell this joke and if I was a comedian I’d tell it too. You know why? Because this story is true for every child who grew up in the era before remote controls.
Well then, so is all the other jokes.
the reason why it's hard to catch is because the material was changed to fit another race or scenario. But I've listen to Paul Mooney enough to notice some of his stuff was stolen but even he says people steal from him lol but he's OK with it
yep this vid means nothing
the cosby “Hey Mom” is criminal lol
His name is Ned.! Lol
Chat George López special was like in the 2000's and the video of mencia he was not even famous yet it was like early 90's way before that López special lol
That joke has been around longer than either one of these guys have been doing comedy
Spot on, the youngest in all families where the remote, 40 years ago I was using that joke.
No it hasn't.....at least not for me asshole and I'm a first generation Mexican-American
@@JoseGarcia-ho7co how does the fact that I heard a joke 40 years before you make me an asshole. And what does being Mexican-American have to do with a joke about kids having to get up to change the channel back in the day?
I think you just wanted to say something mean
@@JoseGarcia-ho7co you definitely are, I can smell you 😘
I can name 5 other comedians that told similar variations of that exact same joke. Topical jokes and jokes about childhood experiences ( ex. How tv didn't used to have remotes) are very common in stand up comedy and They all tend to sound similar because you can only tell so many variations of the same joke. If you wana accuse people of stealing then they both "stole" that joke from sinbad, and sinbad "stole" it from somebody before him.
The remote control joke is the oldest joke! No steal of any sort
These are very common jokes made in the Hispanic and black comedy scenes. But George and his were very similar
Mencia has zero comedic timing. Lol
He walks around like he has shit in his ass. That's kinda funny.
That happened to me growing up. Its not stealing. He told it a lot different too.
Just because you experienced doesn’t mean they said the joke first stooopidd
Being blind is a blessing...same topic.. different delivery...joke stealing now that's a joke
Carlos doing his best accent
Ok... Carlos special came out first than George Lopez. Even if it didn't it's a very common Hispanic or Latin thing. To go change the channel
Wow you are stupid.
@@ericcaires6423 it was for me and in Hispanic. I think you're the one that just looked stupid.
@@Andy-bh8hw he a fucking joke who steals other people shit and play it off as his own that why gorge Lopez smack the fuck out of him once for stealing his shit and was just making himself look more and more stupid every fucking time he would get called out lol joe Rogen finally shut him the fuck up and I'm not really a fan of joe but I do give credit when credit is due
it's not stolen they just had the same experience when they were young. come on people it's common sense. everyone has had at least one experience that another person had as well. They're just talking about a funny moment they had as a kid. For example when I was a kid I would put tapitio and Parmesan cheese on my corn. And so did other people especially if you're Mexican. it's just an experience that they had in common. so I don't know why this video was made.
Nope Mencia isn't even Mexican he uses a fake name, look it up.
His friggin name is Ned. Get a clue.
Yeah, but this is not the only example. In this case, the joke was obvious and simple, and may be independent of each other. Many of his jokes are much more specific, and the chances of two people writing the same joke is unlikely. Then when you add dozens and dozens of those examples up, you have a pattern of theft.
Bad example, Carlos taping of this joke is way before that Lopez special came out
Pretty sure George Lopez did this, because he did it first
Sure Mencia steals jokes, but come on man.....Every comedian over 45 years old in the world does the "change the channel by hand joke."
Yes, but he also does a lot of jokes that not everyone is doing....except for ONE other comic that is not him.
Lopez did it better. I laughed when he said it
I wonder how Carlos Mencia feels about the whole world calling him THE THEIF of comedy. No one would even want to remember him after he dies except as a great example of what not to be.
If this was the only example of Ned Holness stealing jokes, then maybe it wouldn't be that big of a deal. but after all the examples out there, this just icing on the cake
this is an old bit that almost every comedian does at some point. its the same as when somebody talks in the crowd, then when the comedian confronts them they shut up. then the comedian says "this isn't TV, I can see you"
I'm afraid that all the "stolen" jokes are very common things... I even thought of that exact same thing as it happened to everyone.
Westham are trash
I’ve heard this premise countless times
Those are two seperate jokes. Even I made jokes as a kid that WE were the remote controls. That's not an original concept.
How could Carlos have stolen the joke when he used it first?
I guess having the same life expediences aren't allowed in comedy?
Carlos isn't Mexican.
His name is Ned and he's a immigrant from Honduras.
+Raluyen Skylance That doesn't matter. I'm sure that remote control thing is not limited to just the Mexican community or even the latino community for that matter. It pretty much applies to anyone from an older time when remote controls weren't used as much.
+osamabad true I'm Mexican and white, and I got from both sides with pliers
osamabad but the joke is exactly the same and mencia even states he's Mexican in the joke even though he's not literally to rip off the joke, even with the hitting the microphone over the head, Carlos has always been a thief so why are you defending him
Whether or not Mencia steals jokes is pretty cut and dry.. IF you really know your comedy. If you perform stand-up, you see a LOT of comics. And in your down time, you watch a lot of other comics online. I did stand-up for 10 years, and used to sit in the back of the room with other comics while Ned (his real name) was on stage. We used to play a game and see how many lifted jokes we could point out in his set. We always found at least one, depending on how long his set was. One or two if it was a showcase, but 5-6 if he was doing a full hour or so. Whoop, there's a Lopez! Whoop, there's a Cosby from 1978 (seriously). Whoop, there's a Pryor joke from 1974.
I've heard that joke told by several comedians . And frankly Carlos does it better it just a small part of a bigger joke . With George it is the joke . Who did it first who cares .
Lopez told it so much better, I actually laughed at his as well.
I heard Paul Rodriguez tell the same joke back in the late 1980s
It probably originates before them but this would lead me to believe if anything george Lopez stole the bit.
Funny how people keep saying that Carlos stole from George even though nobody has presented any video evidence, yet there is clear evidence here of George stealing from Carlos, and everyone is saying that it's a generic joke that anyone can come up with. Would all be saying the same thing if George had used it first?
Not joke stealing. It’s an actual truth of millions of people who actually did and said the same thing after growing up and being adult. Telling the same stories . Like walking miles to school. No video games. Being outside etc etc etc.
Carlos isn't even named carlos, his name is ned
No joke- daily life of a typical Mexican American home in the 80- and some into the 90s
This is a pretty universal joke lol
Thanks for the loud ass effect at the end
George was doing these jokes years before Mencia. Also, George is OLD enough not to have had remotes in his household while Carlos was the first generation with. Besides, George writes many of jokes, Carlos uses writers. But in actuality, many stand-up guys steal from each other. It just sucks when they dont bother to change it up.
1Garagehero yeah but my question is; why did Joe Rogan specifically targeted Carlos for joke stealing?
People don't steal jokes as much as you think they do. I was in the comedy business for years, and Carlos wasn't the only one, but it's not as rampant as you think. From my experience, most comics are pretty respectful of other people's material. What happened a lot in my comedy career was have other comics give me good lines to fix a joke, or take lines i gave them to fix theirs. It was a very "i got your back" community from my experience.
To be fair, that joke is about as old as TV remotes. I'm sure many other comedians have done that joke before as well.
Carlos isn't a thief...he's a sociopath!
Lol at people saying that Ned Holdman learned that joke from his childhood as a Mexican.
He's not Mexican
The punisher finally got punished
Holy crap....things have gotten so out hand with stealing material in comedy. Someone stole the letter “e” from the word Whose .
I remember the floor TVs lol, my dad wouldn't get up for shit, Billy!!!!
Literally all kids were made to change the channel before remotes were a big thing. If I comment on how my dad made me take the trash out, I'm not stealing from the other kid who had to do the same thing.
Carlos told that joke wayyyyy before George. But in all fairness, you heard old people tell that joke tons of time before either of these 2 vatos... Just like the "build a bridge and throw the Mexicans out.... well who's gonna build it?" I thought of that immediately but didn't say it because it was low hanging fruit and hacky... My brother named his first born daughter Melrose, immediately I thought "whats her middle name... Place?" but I was like yeah thats fucking hacky and he'll hear it a million times, then my drunk uncle walks up and says "ah, her name ah is Melrose, ah middle name ah Place? Hahaha" I said to myself thats why I didn't say it... He went around telling everybody! With a shit eating grin, Like he was auditioning for Star Search or the Gong Show.
It's a low hanging fruit of a premise that is not unique. You could say they both stole that joke from my dad. This is a horrible example of joke stealing.
Comedians always tell similar jokes changing some details. And even IF someone copies a joke, who gives a f.? Jokes have copyright?. Too many Karens in the US.
George Lopez choked Ned at a comedy club because of his stealing. 🥳