This is a common misconception! Heat does not rise, hot air does! So, we can still efficiently radiate thermal energy downward, like the Sun! Thermal radiation does not know up or down, just hot to cold, so the heat will always move from hotter objects to cooler ones, regardless of the direction! Let us know if you have any questions!
@@messanatech Awesome product. Nice manufacturing setup. Everybody has great ideas all of the time. but very few of us have what it takes to bring the idea to the market. Congrats.
It's just that the Gypsum panels come with the gypsum drywall attached and the NK panels don't. So you'd need to cover the NK panels with drywall once they're installed. We've found that in the US, plumbers don't want to install drywall, and drywallers don't want to install plumbing. So the NK panels were a way to keep everyone happy. It's also easier to transport the NK panels overseas since they're lighter and less fragile. In terms of ease of installation, installers tend to like the NK panels since they're so light. Let me know if you have any other questions!!!
Thank you once again for explaining the difference. Using NK also allows for other types of boards to go over the radiant panels. For example, if possible, and if it won't be too much of an insulator, I'd like to use a cement panel instead of gypsum/drywall. Perhaps you can comment on outer cladding materials that would interfere "too much" with the heating and cooling efficiency of the radiant panels?
@@oldporkchops Great question! It all really depends on the R-value of the material. The lower the better. The higher the R-value the larger the delta T will be between the surface of the panel and the surface of the material. We've used cement and it worked well, and wood worked better than we expected. In terms of drywall, the more air pockets there are within the gypsum, the worse the performance will be. Let us know if you have any more questions!
@@messanatech That makes sense and is probably due to cement containing more thermal mass. My plan was to apply (Venetian) plaster over the cement boards. Have you heard anything about the (Venetian) plaster cracking or deforming due to the head from the radiant panels? No pun intended, but I'll have 100% Made in Italy wall if all goes according to plan. I just need to find metal or wood studs that are also made in Italy!
@@oldporkchops Venetian plaster has worked well in the past! Our co-founder, Francesco, also wanted to recommend Marmorino plaster as it has more of a matte look compared to Venetian plaster. It sounds like Marmorino plaster is more common in Italy right now. Feel free to reach out to Francesco directly at sales@radiantcooling.com and he can give you more insight!
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This is very helpful to understand the Messana system! What type of tubing are you using? It looks thinner and a lot more flexible than PEX tubing.
It's 8mm PE-RT! Let us know if you have any additional questions!
Love this. Just a what I need 💞💞..
Is it efficient to heat from above, seems kinda unlogical since heat tends to go upwards
This is a common misconception! Heat does not rise, hot air does! So, we can still efficiently radiate thermal energy downward, like the Sun!
Thermal radiation does not know up or down, just hot to cold, so the heat will always move from hotter objects to cooler ones, regardless of the direction! Let us know if you have any questions!
@@messanatech Awesome product. Nice manufacturing setup.
Everybody has great ideas all of the time. but very few of us have what it takes to bring the idea to the market.
Congrats.
@@andrewbowers_ Thank you, we appreciate that!
Could you please let me know what are the main differences between the Gypsum and NK panels? Thanks.
It's just that the Gypsum panels come with the gypsum drywall attached and the NK panels don't. So you'd need to cover the NK panels with drywall once they're installed.
We've found that in the US, plumbers don't want to install drywall, and drywallers don't want to install plumbing. So the NK panels were a way to keep everyone happy. It's also easier to transport the NK panels overseas since they're lighter and less fragile. In terms of ease of installation, installers tend to like the NK panels since they're so light. Let me know if you have any other questions!!!
Thank you once again for explaining the difference. Using NK also allows for other types of boards to go over the radiant panels. For example, if possible, and if it won't be too much of an insulator, I'd like to use a cement panel instead of gypsum/drywall. Perhaps you can comment on outer cladding materials that would interfere "too much" with the heating and cooling efficiency of the radiant panels?
@@oldporkchops Great question!
It all really depends on the R-value of the material. The lower the better.
The higher the R-value the larger the delta T will be between the surface of the panel and the surface of the material.
We've used cement and it worked well, and wood worked better than we expected. In terms of drywall, the more air pockets there are within the gypsum, the worse the performance will be. Let us know if you have any more questions!
@@messanatech That makes sense and is probably due to cement containing more thermal mass. My plan was to apply (Venetian) plaster over the cement boards. Have you heard anything about the (Venetian) plaster cracking or deforming due to the head from the radiant panels?
No pun intended, but I'll have 100% Made in Italy wall if all goes according to plan. I just need to find metal or wood studs that are also made in Italy!
@@oldporkchops Venetian plaster has worked well in the past! Our co-founder, Francesco, also wanted to recommend Marmorino plaster as it has more of a matte look compared to Venetian plaster. It sounds like Marmorino plaster is more common in Italy right now. Feel free to reach out to Francesco directly at sales@radiantcooling.com and he can give you more insight!
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Hello. Where can we buy them in Belgium ?
Go ahead and reach out to our sales team with the link below and we'll see what we can do for you!
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