I have fond memories of the Kef Cadenza. Back in '72 I was 14 years old and had never heard of HiFi although I was a big music fan. My uncle was shopping for HiFi and took me to a show at Olympia. He ended up with a Pioneer PL12 / Shure frontend, an Armstrong 521 integrated amp and a pair of Kef Cadenzas. I went to visit him for a week and have been hooked on HiFi ever since.
At the beginning of the 70s, the magazine "que choisir" had made a comparison that put about fifteen loudspeakers in competition. It was the "kef cadenza" that came out on top in this comparison
That passive radiator looks like a heavy, stiff thing. What a unique piece. Ahh, yes, bad memories of cold joints. It's not that soldering is hard, it just happens to be as easy to do wrong. Good on ya for not being cruel at someone's misadventure with the iron.
A funny thing about Kef in these early years. There drive units were widely used by many other speaker manufactures. In many cases the other makers speakers tended to have better cabinets and managed to get a better sound out of Kefs drivers. The Kef Choral and the Cadenza were quite similar really. Both used the same T27 tweeter, the Cadenza used the high power, larger magnet B200 and had the ABR. (many customers thought it was a real driver B139) The Choral had a smaller cabinet but had a better, quite clean sound. The better of the 2 in my opinion. The Cadenza did have a bit more low end but a very boxy sound in comparison. Ohh, why on earth did KEF not paint the B200s frame black. They looked bloody dreadful in unpainted silver.
Hi there. Love the channel. I'm a DIY speaker builder and would love a video on what methods and equipment and software you use to measure the frequency response and spectral decay of speakers. I have yet to find a really authoritative video on this. It's probably the most difficult part of the DIY speaker builder art, because everything needs reliable accurate measurement.
I remember when my friend bought a pair of Cadenzas when they were a current model and we put on a Jimmy Cliff album, the bass notes shook the floor boards....Never seen the early ABR with foam board chassis before...
@@bernardchesneau3091 Good to hear from you 😃. Yes Clio is on the radar but I do like REW. I use DATS with it for impedance where as Clio has it all. ARTA is a product I'm aware of but will research it. I don't know. REW is good. Clio is just a bit more professional. Given that I'm going to release my own line if speakers soon I feel like I should be using it now.
@@haycrossaudio5474 Arta has been modelled on Clio (so I heard). Arta comes in three modules, one for impedance and driver parameters, one for old for old school sine wave measurements and the main one for all measurements. You can download the free version which does not allow you to store the measurement files but you can play and see how you get on with it. I know that Danny Richie uses Clio so that's reassuring. Klippel at 100 grand is out of the question.
@@bernardchesneau3091 I'd never use Klippel. Whilst very detailed and accurate it's way to slow for measurements Whilst designing. Also you could by a house for that 🤣🤣. I'll take a look at ARTA but I like Clio's hardware. That's what stands out from the other products. You get the hardware to drive everything to
@@haycrossaudio5474 Agree about buying the house... Yes, like you, I believe the Clio hardware will guarantee more accurate results. Arta has no hardware so you'd be using your current one.
@@bernardchesneau3091 I think that's the difference. Clio 'automatica' has hardware designed for there software. Everything else doesn't. You have to spend ages calibrating everything and then your still not 100% and limited. Clio is a lot of money but probably in the long run worth it. Stay tuned
I have fond memories of the Kef Cadenza.
Back in '72 I was 14 years old and had never heard of HiFi although I was a big music fan. My uncle was shopping for HiFi and took me to a show at Olympia. He ended up with a Pioneer PL12 / Shure frontend, an Armstrong 521 integrated amp and a pair of Kef Cadenzas. I went to visit him for a week and have been hooked on HiFi ever since.
@@TheRealWindlePoons Great to hear your story as to how you got in to Hifi. The Cadenzas are going to turn out well I think. Cheers
A classic combo with a Shure M75ED no doubt. I hope he put the speakers on stands, that took most of the boomyness out of them
At the beginning of the 70s, the magazine "que choisir" had made a comparison that put about fifteen loudspeakers in competition. It was the "kef cadenza" that came out on top in this comparison
That passive radiator looks like a heavy, stiff thing. What a unique piece.
Ahh, yes, bad memories of cold joints. It's not that soldering is hard, it just happens to be as easy to do wrong. Good on ya for not being cruel at someone's misadventure with the iron.
@@bobclarke5913 Yeah easily done. The passive radiator is really light. It's like the Celestion method of constricting them. I quite like this speaker
A funny thing about Kef in these early years. There drive units were widely used by many other speaker manufactures. In many cases the other makers speakers tended to have better cabinets and managed to get a better sound out of Kefs drivers.
The Kef Choral and the Cadenza were quite similar really. Both used the same T27 tweeter, the Cadenza used the high power, larger magnet B200 and had the ABR. (many customers thought it was a real driver B139) The Choral had a smaller cabinet but had a better, quite clean sound. The better of the 2 in my opinion. The Cadenza did have a bit more low end but a very boxy sound in comparison.
Ohh, why on earth did KEF not paint the B200s frame black. They looked bloody dreadful in unpainted silver.
Hi there. Love the channel. I'm a DIY speaker builder and would love a video on what methods and equipment and software you use to measure the frequency response and spectral decay of speakers. I have yet to find a really authoritative video on this. It's probably the most difficult part of the DIY speaker builder art, because everything needs reliable accurate measurement.
I remember when my friend bought a pair of Cadenzas when they were a current model and we put on a Jimmy Cliff album, the bass notes shook the floor boards....Never seen the early ABR with foam board chassis before...
@@mfr58 Just running test tones through them they have incredible bass extension. At 30Hz there was still good output!
@@haycrossaudio5474 Not the tightest bass in town as I remember, but it was there in spades full and great fun for certain kinds of music.
If you are contemplating getting Clio, you may want to take a look at ARTA. The license is very good value. I like using it along with REW.
@@bernardchesneau3091 Good to hear from you 😃. Yes Clio is on the radar but I do like REW. I use DATS with it for impedance where as Clio has it all. ARTA is a product I'm aware of but will research it. I don't know. REW is good. Clio is just a bit more professional. Given that I'm going to release my own line if speakers soon I feel like I should be using it now.
@@haycrossaudio5474 Arta has been modelled on Clio (so I heard). Arta comes in three modules, one for impedance and driver parameters, one for old for old school sine wave measurements and the main one for all measurements. You can download the free version which does not allow you to store the measurement files but you can play and see how you get on with it.
I know that Danny Richie uses Clio so that's reassuring. Klippel at 100 grand is out of the question.
@@bernardchesneau3091 I'd never use Klippel. Whilst very detailed and accurate it's way to slow for measurements Whilst designing. Also you could by a house for that 🤣🤣. I'll take a look at ARTA but I like Clio's hardware. That's what stands out from the other products. You get the hardware to drive everything to
@@haycrossaudio5474 Agree about buying the house... Yes, like you, I believe the Clio hardware will guarantee more accurate results. Arta has no hardware so you'd be using your current one.
@@bernardchesneau3091 I think that's the difference. Clio 'automatica' has hardware designed for there software. Everything else doesn't. You have to spend ages calibrating everything and then your still not 100% and limited. Clio is a lot of money but probably in the long run worth it. Stay tuned
Afternoon Matt, it’s been a while🤣🤣
@@kjbunnyboiler I know mate. Got a ton of videos to post. Just need to edit them
@@haycrossaudio5474 keep em coming👍👍
Matt I can tell you have cats by your t shirt lol I have two and all my t shirts are HOLY 😹😹
@@angeloluis4130 Yep I have a Cat. He loves nothing better than jumping out at me then running off. It's his little game 🤣🤣