The "reflecting" speaker could possibly have sounded better with a clean back wall. I heard a set of these in the mid 70s. It was the first time I experienced sound stage.
I'm sure they would have sounded a LITTLE better with a clean wall. Looking over the comments from folks who had experience with 901s, very few think it was or is a good sounding speaker.
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Steve, I picked up a used pair of 901s in 1971 after my Large Advents were stolen. Don't know if they were Series 1 or not. I had a solid wall behind for proper set up. But I didn't want everything, including solo folk artists, to sound like a wall of sound. Also, I agreed with the slogan, "No highs, no lows, it must be Bose!" I sold them after about 4 months and got another pair of Advents.
Hi Steve...I was a BOSE dealer in Canada in the 1980's during the height of BOSE hysteria. Why I chose BOSE is because of the marketing and the line SOLD. They were not audiophile speakers at all. They were speakers for the non audiophile masses. I never had complaints and sold a a lot of BOSE....primarily 901s and 301s. My reference audiophile speaker that I sold was the ENERGY 22 which we sold a ton. Thanks for the memories Steve.
I had a pair of Energy 2.2 bookshelfs back in the 90's. They were a nice sounding speaker. I still have and use my Energy ES 8 sub and it puts out amazing tight deep bass for it's size. I also have an Energy AS90 12 inch sub that goes deeper but is not as tight sounding as the 8, but still pretty clean sounding. As for the Bose 901 I have an interesting story. It must have been 1978. Back in the day we used to smoke a little weed and maybe sell a little on the side. So went with a buddy to see this dealer and he had a nice new pair of 901's. My friend had already listened to them and he convinced the guy to give me a demo. So he put on the debut Van Halen album and played Eruption. Needless to say I was blown away that day. They were cranked and Eddies guitar just filled the room. I probably had a bit of a buzz going which didn't hurt either. I saw and heard a few lesser Bose speakers afterwards but none really impressed me like that. I supect it was a whole combination of the speaker, the buzz and the right music combination that made it unforgettable.
100% spot on! I’ve mentioned this so many times, that i lost count how many times lol. They’re very unforgiving of placement and the proper EQ wired in properly.
I got my 901’s vi series 2 the last and latest version made by Bose before they were discontinued. I found my 901’s new in the box from the manufacture date of 2012. From what I’ve heard they are very hard to find in new condition for the vi series 2.
Kind of funny, it's 1978 and I buy a pair of Tympani 1D's and my bud got him self a pair of Bose 901's. So kind of your setup in reverse....his setup sounded crap and mine was heaven with a Sansui BA3000 amp...
You mean they weren’t intended to be placed a couple feet in front of giant panel speakers?? That seems like a horrible setup for ANY speaker, let alone a “dipole” that radiates 90% of its energy to the rear.
In 1972 my friend had 901s hanging from the ceiling in a 13 x 13 foot room. Connected to a reel to reel and a big Sansui amp with the Rolling Stones blasting. That was my start into Hifi!
You sound like a friend i used to know around same time his reel to reel set up was fantastic but he had Cerwin Vega speakers which back in the 70's were pretty good damn speakers. First time i saw a parachute he had set up on his ceiling the guy was one partier
@@artkulak9802 hmm... 🙂 I think Steve is one of the most credible YT reviewers. After watching his videos for a while, I clearly can connect to what he's saying about stuff. No diffuse messages.
After over 20 years since I sold my 901s VI v1 speakers and bought into the HT crazy, I finally returned to my 2 channel routes a few months ago. I snagged some mint VI V2s off e-Bay and mated them to an Emotiva pre/power-amp set up. And I’m in love again. I’m spending hours listening to and getting reacquainted to my music collection again. Everything sounds right. I do have the perfect Man Cave that has the PERFECT wall/ceiling dimensions to allow the 901s to BREATHE. And they don’t disappoint. Shame on BOSE for ending production. BTW many say the VI V2s should be called the series VII given all the upgrades over the VI v1’s.
Bose direct/reflecting speakers ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE a room that is acoustically "live". When I was in college, MANY years ago, a guy in my dorm had a pair of Bose 501s. The dorm had cinder block walls, and they made his Bose speakers sound amazing. I'd never heard anything like it, before. Forget about room treatment, when you're running Bose speakers. The joke about Bose speakers used to be that you pulled all of the furniture out of your listening room, and put pieces back in one at a time, to see if the speakers still worked.
A “live room” makes intuitive sense with the Bose 901s. Skyfi (with all that beautiful equipment packing the space), probably wasn’t the best place to hear the Bose speakers.
Bought a pair of 901 Series 2 in 1973 and thought I was in audio nirvana until I went to an audio show in Philadelphia in 1975 and heard a pair of Dahlquist DQ-10's. No comparison.
I heard the DQ-10s in that timeframe and was blown away. I was poor and couldn’t afford them. The other speaker that knocked my socks off was the DCM Time Window 1A, which I heard sometime in the late 80s/early 90s. Bryston was using them at the Toronto high end show. The soundstage and imaging was incredible.
Amar Bose was a serious engineer and was well regarded at the time. He and others did significant research in developing their designs. Bose, in particular, was trying to recreate the concert hall experience. Remember too that at the time, 4 channel was also a hot topic for the same reason. While the company eventually went in other directions, Bose's research was legit and his speakers when first introduced were, contrary to what some have written here, considered inexpensive for what they offered: A big sound in a small package. Today's audiophiles have largely abandoned the notion of trying to recreate the concert hall listening experience, instead opting for goals such as precise imaging, a concept which simply does not exist in any concert hall. To criticize Bose and others (Roy Allison for example), for not delivering a sound which adheres to what today's audiophiles think is "real", represents a total misunderstanding of historical speaker development and of what Amar Bose, in particular, was trying to measure and reproduce. Obviously, everyone should enjoy whatever speaker they like. But not all of today's audiophile goals are akin to a concert hall experience.
Very well put. I think Bose became obsessed with psychoacoustics and market research in the 80s, and stopped trying to investigate physics-based acoustics and sound reproduction accuracy. The sudden design change of the 501 for its 5th generation is a good example.
Well, what Bose was doing was creating a specific effect instead of chasing any form of accuracy. I mean, I can stick a DSP in my system and get a gigantic concert hall effect, but do I want to be stuck with it for every recording and do I want to hear everything through very limited full range drivers? It was a speaker of a more experimental time.
1972…Freshman year of college…there was a rich kid in my dorm with a McIntosh Amp & a set of Bose 901s..I just remember listening to The Stones and how blown away I was by the power… I scurried back to my Acoustic Research Turntable and speakers, powered by a Sansui Amp…in AWE of what I had just heard down the hall! GREAT MEMORY!!! 😊
@@FelixtheMetalcat I recently bought one…YOU'RE RIGHT!!! 😊 I do think that the 901s would still be lacking, though..…an array 4” drivers can only give you so much, right? Steve was listening with a McIntosh amp…this time, I think?
I owned a pair of mint mint 901 series 1 imperial that I recently sold. My daily drivers are Magnepan 3.7i for reference (I also have vintage JM LABS, modern Falcon LS3/5 and Sonus Amators). I have never understood or agreed when I hear the anecdotal “no high, no lows”. My 901’s paired with its equalizer had ample highs and not a terrible speaker by any stretch.
Agree 100% with others who talk about the need for a solid, reflective surface behind the speakers. Without it, the speakers will sound like turds. This is like auditioning a pair of Wilson speakers in your back yard and remarking they don't sound as good as you were expecting. Duh.
...will sound like turds. the implication is that you have actually hooked two turds to your amp and then put on a record and listened. Or was it four turds during you quadraphonic period?
@@junesurfdog What's the matter? Does it bother you that not everyone bashes Bose? Anyone who's owned any iteration of the 901s will tell you the same thing. Have owned quite a few Bose products in the past and currently own a few, to include the 901s. The best acoustic solo piano recordings I've ever heard came via the 901s in an apartment while stationed in CO Springs. For solo piano, I preferred those over the B&W N805 or even the Dunlavy SC-IV. Driven by Pass Aleph amp and I think Rogue preamp (but not 100% sure about the pre). Unfortunately, the 901s don't sound as good in my current location. I think the drywall material is different. Properly set up in a good room the 901s can sound fabulous.
@@mamoruwilkie7669I look at Bose like people look at Apple nowadays. A lot of people hate on Apple gear but I have to say my AirPods Pro is phenomenal earbuds and I own much higher end products like the Sony IER-Z1R. If a boutique brand rolled them out and charged $800 for them with a different name I think critics would clap like seals.
So if someone were to review say Magnapans and they were shoved in a corner of the room and they said these speakers are terrible, you would be all over them. Yet once again someone reviews 901's set up COMPLETLEY WRONG .If you would like to here them when they are set set up correctly , come to my place in eastern Long island .🙂
As said here above...the venue showing the spkrs is not conducive to them sounding very good. You were right about the best 901s being series 1 or 2. After that they changed to a bass reflex approach, with the Star Trek ports for efficiency and destroyed the sound. They became limp and lifeless soundwise and never sounded right. I owned 2 pair of the series 2s and when set up with a brick or concrete wall to their rear and high powered amps...200-250 watts /ch ..they threw a very realistic concert presentation with the lights out in the dark ...Patti Smith's "Horses" was truly a magical experience. Also of note , the driver surrounds on these series did not suffer from the foam degradion that happened in subsequent series. (It is not always true that newer is always better) . With dsp eq in some of today's gear , it would be very interesting to hear what they could do in today's market. Food for thought....
I'm a sound engineer with four decades experience in live and recorded sound and have also done many nightclub and other venue installations. There's a famous saying in the industry..... No highs, no lows. Must be Bose!! 😁
I’m a long time audiophile since the late 70’s. I was introduced to hi-fi gear from my uncle who was a Vietnam veteran in the Marines during the 60’s. A long story short, when he came home from Vietnam as many veterans did, he had brought a bunch of hi-fi gear from the ox exchange in Okinawa, JP. I was around 10 years old in the early 70’s when I first heard hi-fi gear , to say the least I was blown away lol. So much so I got into it as previously mentioned in the later part of the 70’s.
A few years ago I acquired a set of 901 series 3. I opened them up to see the internals and was pretty shocked, the materials and build quality are abysmal! Anyway they sounded horrible no matter how they were positioned in the room or what EQ setting I could push out.
The only time I was in a Fry's Electronics they had a dedicated Bose area. They had a clear acrylic acoustimass module in the display and was horrified at the component quality - stamped frame woofer, bipolar electrolytic caps. Put me off forever.
I will say also as an electronics tech and a Bose 901 VI series 2 owner and multiple Infinity speakers, that the 901’s can sound much better than what you have experienced. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that. The biggest downfall of these speakers is placement, placement & placement. They’re super critical on placement and the proper EQ per series. My 901’s do come quite close to my Infinity Kappa 9’s. However they’re still lacking as I too have them improperly placed as I have limited space in my living room and have hardwood floors.
Hi Steve, Nice to see you are reviewing the Bose 901 speakers, I had the series IV some 50 years ago. I bought them new and powered them was a big Marantz receiver, it gave me years of good and loud sound, and I remember them with great dear. I use them for my wedding ceremony in the church (40 years ago), a friend of mine put the music for the occasion, in that way I didn’t pay a chorus. 20 years after when I moved from my home, I left them on my father’s place, and I bought another Bose equipment, smaller and with better treble sound, “The Lifestyle 20”. When my father passed away, I sold the 901s, and although the cabinet and the cones were still fine, the rubber rims had to be replaced. All in all I cherish those speakers, they were a good company for many years, now with more experience in a backward look I find the same as you, although the sound was open the trebles were a bit course, with no definition. Nowadays I have the KEF reference 5 speakers powered with a McIntosh integrated amp MA 9500, they sound superb however, I still remember my 901s with affection. Cheers, and keep your nice program alive.-
Ha, never heard that before.🙄 But as is often the case with truisms, this was not true across all products. Yes, my Bose Acoustimass system (with the little cubes) was terrible. On the other hand, my Bose QuietComfort 45 Noise Cancelling headphones are quite impressive, and my Bose Wave table radio sounds amazing. Sorry!
I had a pair of 901 series 4 and what they did do well was fill a room with sound ,😅perfect for a party in my 30s. You cannot beat the volume. You would get out of these a great party speaker not a serious two channel sitting in your chair listening, but crank up the volumes and do a shot with the gang 🎉
This. I had a pair of 301s mounted on the long wall of a long, narrow room. You heard stereo effects wherever you were in the room. They weren't the highest fidelity, but were a great choice in sub-optimal conditions
I have a pair of 901 Series III from 1976 and I'm really happy with the sound. They had bad foam rot when I got them so I bought a foam replacement kit and fixed them up. I've been using them for 15 years or so. I'd describe the highs as silky and the bass as warm but not as punchy as my modern speakers. Definitely an open sound.
When I was in college 40 years ago, I had a pair of 901s in the large frat house I lived in. I had them running with a powerful Sansui integrated amp. Those speakers rocked the house. They may not have been tonally accurate but we didn't care. They were just so much fun. They were the ultimate party speaker back in the day.
I have a pair of 901 series four in my workshop hung above the bench. They are great shop speakers. Consistent sound anywhere in the room and you don’t get blasted out when you’re up close. And they sound good enough to jam out when taking a break. They aren’t hifi by any stretch.
Last year I heard a pair of original 1st series BOSE 301's for the first time and they sounded quite good. I wouldn't say they were real HIFI but certainly OK mid-fi, like many speakers of their era and price.
The Bose 901 was a very interesting design and development at the time they were introduced.Your take on direct reflecting speaker is point on in. every word as you stated.The company gave up on their iconic design..and yes its sad. And the Klipshorns are still in production. Bose now turned the focus on headphones and soundbars not exactly hi end product.They sound nice but way to expensive for my taste and budget.But there are people who will not part with that beloved look and in name only..and theres nothing wrong with that.I had listened to the 901's back in the day and i was not impressed. But to each his/ her own.I think its great that you revisited the 901 just for the sake of curiosity. Ok enough said about the 901's..lets talk about the Klipshorns. Thank you Steve Guttenberg for another wonderful post.Keep up the good work..and maybe some day i will get to visit SKYFI audio..heaven !!!!
I had a pair of 901 Series II in the 80s and it sounds fantastic. I cannot believe that you are missing bass, mine were so powerfull and deep, actually my current 12 inch KEF subwoofer does not deliver more. Maybe they changed or whatever, but that 901 in my room were fantastic and all of my friends were overwhelmed. My older brother still has his pair of 901 II and its still a joy to listen. Actually i cannot agree that most people knowing 901 think they were not good speakers. Its just vice verse, all of my friends came visiting me only for listening them and those who could pay for them, bought a pair for themselves. I dont know what is wrong with your speakers, but mine were fantastic. I also heard a pair of 601, but those were really very bad. Another universe.
I am a musician and in the mid 70s would play a bunch of hotel restaurants and travel from town to town, I bought two pairs of 901 series ones speakers to use as a small vocal PA system, the original Bose Equalizers were lost of course. Bose was selling 800s by then which was a 901 without the single "front" speaker, and were turned around to face the 6 reflecting speakers toward the audience. I did get a Peavey CS800 watt amp (400 per channel) to drive them and just turned the 901s around. It worked OK and was much easier to transport than other speakers at the time. Dude to the lack of a crossover, they advertised them as a natural sound. In the end, I don't miss them a bit....LOL
I remember when I was a teenager in the mid 70s. My cousin had Klipsch Horns and my friend’s parents had Bose 901s. Both were driven with high quality amplifiers. The difference was unimaginable
The Series I was a sealed enclosure. After that they went reflex. Had to make a substantial difference. My only experience was with the original series. I loved them and they were positioned properly but my ears weren’t nearly as trained as they are now. Dr. Bose was on to something.
I believe that Dr. Bose really believed that the concept was right, but it wasn’t, as proven both by science and the fact that no other company ever tried a similar design. Any sealed enclosure will have a lot less bass output (for the same internal volume and drivers), with the benefit of reducing the bass “boomyness” associated with poorly designed ported enclosures. But even if the sealed enclosure was able to be beneficial in the bass frequencies, it would have zero effect on the other huge problem of the 901 design, which is too little and unnatural high frequencies leaving mostly the back side of the speaker. 😉 You defined exactly what happened to you, which was basically learning that they weren’t that great after all, _after_ listening some properly designed quality loudspeakers. 😉
Bose is doing a really good job in their bluetooth speakers department. They are experts in tricking your brain to think they sound awesome. I got a Soundlink Micro some 5 years ago and I’m still amazed by the sound that comes out of such a small thing.
The modern world is perfect for Bose. They pioneered the use of DSP in audio and portable speakers and car stereos are a perfect environment to benefit from DSP managed sound
Yes, i have a soundlink Mini 2, i bought in 2017, that thing is so impressive! Good bass, good sound, the battery life is till excellent 7 years later!
I had two pair of the first series 901's in 1971. They were very nice and stood up well against other brands at that time. I ended up using a Phase Liner 400 , more than enough power. They were stored for years and recently were reborn as the surround speakers for my TV set up. They love it.
I bought a pair of Bose 901 Vi (new) with the equalizer and could never make them work to my satisfaction. Once I heard the Mirage MS3I, the Bose were gone. Never got to buy a pair of the Mirages but they blew away almost everything else I head aside from the B&W 801s which is the best speaker system that I have ever heard.
Btw the demo setup we had in the stores was hanging the 901 off of chains near the ceiling. That gave us 3 surfaces to reflect from. It worked but everyone bought stands which never equaled the ceiling mount.
Friend of mine back in the day had a old Kenwood 9600 receiver with a pair of Altec Lansing speakers then he had the 901 Bose hanging from the ceiling. They sounded pretty good.
I think the speakers were not set up properly or they were connected improperly. A solid back wall and proper connection is key. Because they are connected to the receiver through the cassette deck using the equalizer, one has to make sure the cassette is selected on receiver. It makes a huge difference in sound when selecting the tape deck on the receiver. I have 901s hooked up to a vintage Hitachi SA-2500 - not a robust receiver at all but it drives the 901s beautifully. I think you need to visit someone with them hooked properly in home with real walls and furniture. I live in southern NJ. You’re welcome to come here. I also have a pair of Rectilinear Lowboys that I think you’d really enjoy hearing.
My uncle had one pair of Bose 901-1, and one pair of Bozak Symphony. Both driven by powerful McIntosh amplifiers. It was never possible to get the Bose pair to sound any good.
My dad and I set up the original 901s about 1 foot from a wall. And they were about 5 ft. From the floor. We originally heard them set up in a Church. Great sound.
My frosh year in college (1977) we had a guy give a presentation on home audio. Someone asked about the 901's. He turned to the back of the stage and said "do i sound the same?"
Steve with the 901 the room is a part of the speaker design as well as the positioning in the room. I had always had 901s between about 1970 and 2014, when I built my own direct/reflecting speakers with variable gain pots for the front drivers. The 901s easily blew away all other speakers in most store demos. Most customers wondered "how do they do that." They would use the 901s to demo most of their electronics if they wanted to impress people with the HUGE sound. They fell out of favor when the dealers realized that the 901s were taking their high end sales away from them and they were losing money. I discovered that mis-positioning them lost the focus for the center images but Bose wouldn't change their manual to make it correct. That is still a problem with most speakers, especially dipoles. The sound that we hear is a combination of direct and reflected sound shaped by the room but as yet there is no guidance about this except from me. If you are interested look up "An Image Model Theory for Stereophonic Sound" at the AES, paper from 1989.
I heard a pair of stacked 901s with McIntosh mono amps back in the late 70s at a great audio store, and they sounded really good, of course, they had them set up well and that made a huge difference. Morning Has Broken was one of the songs played it sounded live like in an in-room experience. I think these speakers needed proper space and setup to sound their best, any clutter around them behind them killed what they were capable of.
I still own the Bose 301 series 4 still in pristine sounding condition with the surrounds still looking as when I bought them in later 1996. I use them as my "B" speakers while running my Elac debut 6.2 as my "A" on my Yamaha R-N803 receiver.
Steve I own a pair of the original 901’s. I had them set up with the Sony ta2000 pre and 3200f amplifier (100watts per channel) and they sounded good. Everyone said you have to get a Crown DC300 but they sounded not as good (maybe more bass). I found they needed a drywall (or harder) wall behind them and a really clean sounding amp to sound good. I lived in a farmhouse with thick stone walls and they sounded very good. Putting the Maggie’s behind them for a review would not be useful for an accurate review of what they could sound like if set up correctly. Someone mentioned an Emotiva or I would add a more powerful class D amplifier and I think you would take your review back.
I recently learned that back in the day, Bose required retailers to 1) set up a specific listening room to work with the 901s - that made the speakers sound good, but you could never duplicate in your home, 2) Bose forbid any other brand speakers in the listening room, and forbid any A-B comparisons between Bose and any other brand speaker. That to me speaks volumes about Bose as a Marketing company, not a speaker company. They knew that their speakers could not compare favorably with other brands, and prevented buyers from finding that out.
Interesting theory, but Bose has long since given up even trying to sell speakers! Apparently they weren't that successful since they no longer even compete.
I’m not a huge Boz fan, but they have to have a reflective wall behind them for them to operate as they are intended. They definitely sound a lot better with that up properly, but they are still not my cup of tea.
Back in the 70's a friend and I often listened and compared speakers--and even built our own. He had the Bose 901 SII powered by a Dynaco ST-400 power amp. Sound wasn't bad; I remember that the rear wall (reflecting surface) was critical. I suspect that having the Maggies behind them didn't help the sound. By the way, I also enjoyed the IM Fried R series which employed the famous KEF drivers of that era. These, along with the LS3/5a monitors, suited me better. IM Fried also offered a more expensive sub/sat system with a passive crossover which you may remember. Later, when I owned an audio shop, I became involved with audio manufacturers in Philadelphia. Thanks for the memories!
One by last thing to add, the original 901’s series 1 were hard to drive and did need lot of power as they were closed boxes, not ported as their later versions.
Back in the early 80’s a military bud overseas had a pair of 901’s in his dorm room. Music came from behind me from all over! I still remember that music session.
I had a pair of 901s in my military dorm room overseas in the early 80s. Bought them in K town. That's what you did back then when you went overseas....bought electronics.
@@tedplehn8800 I used to go to local pawn shops to buy oversea high end electronics that weren't available here. Had to make sure the switch for 220 or 120 volt in back was switched to 120 volt. This is in Wichita, Ks. Bought a Yamaha M70 power amp, Soundcraftsman preamp, Akai preamp, etc. Not that way anymore. I think that the status symbol for military guys is over.
Bose was always great at MARKETING to people who really didn't know much, they got you on the reflective business....as a youngster in 1979, I bought a pair of 301s and I liked them because they played LOUD AND I could afford them. I can tell you that I heard plenty of other speakers that sounded worse. The 901s were lively sounding but I never thought they were worth the money. Once I heard Klipsch and Paradigm I never looked back and kinda chuckle at all the hype (still going today). I'm a Focal/ Dali/ Mirage listener today and much happier for it.
I had 501's in the 70's and then while in the Army was offered a great deal on a whole system that had 901's the Pioneer system was great but the I liked the 501's better than the 901's but it is probably a good thing they don't make passive speakers anymore.
Had Bose 301s when I was young. They are fun for loud parties with friends. As your tastes change so does feelings for bose. You answered your own questions Steve. The reason they have moved onto their next chapter. This sound was made action movies or an NFL game not Louis Armstrong. Glad I was around for the craze.
ive had three pairs, of various series 901's, two which needed restoration (all surrounds replaced) and one mint pair. all for resell. i did use them all briefly in my listening room for a while with EQ and summarize as follows. The 901's are not for critical listening, but more about the experience which due to their direct / reflecting approach is unique and unlike any other. IMO they seem to come into their own when driven with power and under volume. as such they would make for a fun party speaker in a large space, and although i have not kept any long term i had fun with them passing through, and have always loved the way they look especially on those tulip stands.
Have a pair of these exact vintage. They have a “sound” that you either like or don’t. Placement is key, as is amplification. Having them in front of an absorbing surface will cause an issue. Thanks for reviewing such a vintage speaker. Great content as always!
I tried different kinds of speakers B+W , CANTON,Magnepan ,KEF…..I owned a lot of speakers over the years but always coming back to the Bose 901 .I don’t know why. I like the sound. The last 2 years I am the owner of 901 updated by ‘KLangstark’ better drivers and a different equalizer and it’s really nice.
I've always liked the Bose aesthetics in the 80s speakers. I grew up down the street from a circuit city and I heard them against different speakers the 901s always sounded bad 501s and 301s sounded decent but never woo'd me. I've always been interested in the Japanese Bose there's a series called the West borough series you should check out. I've also wanted to check the Bose 901s with the wings on the side .Get on hifido you'll see all kinds of cool Bose stuff. I wanna add a tweeter to a pair and some woofers and see how it sounds i had a buddy do that back in the day id like to do it again
Not HiFi or audiophile - but - my only experience with Bose is with their PA kit. I used to manage a set of Panarray speakers with subwoofer and Bose equalisation module. All driven with a couple of Kw of Mackie power in a 19" rack in a 600 seat concert hall. I used to take my favourite CDs and have a play when the hall was empty in the interest of "maintenance". It was a lot of fun.
I was a teen in the 70's. I had a friend whose Dad was a salesman for Harvey Sound in NYC. He had a pair of 901's in his home. I was blown away by the sound back then. It was the soundstage that got me the sound seemed to come out of thin air! He also used a McIntosh front end.
I have a pair of 601 series IV. I purchased them around 2015 or 2016 and the only reason I keep them is that they look great in my living room. And yes, no highs, no lows, they must be Bose!
As a 14 year old pot smoking teenager in 1973, my friend bought a pair of Bose 901's. I was completely blown away. Most awesome speakers I have ever heard. Fast forward to 1988, I bought a pair of series VI. Let's just say ... I was underwhelmed. A few years later I bought some Polk Monitor 10's for $120 ... they blew the 901's away. I have since stepped waay up ($100k), but I still have the Polk's in my backup system.
I pair Bose 901 with Dirac to do full correction. The speakers work a lot better with modern equalization rather than the box. I had both Series 1 and VI, and the VI is better. BUT you need to drop the external box for the DSP. The 2017 Bose 901 Series VI ver 2 has the ribbed surrounds and decreases distortion. As pointed out, they are more room dependent than Magnepans and this is where you should let SkyFi lend them to you to try at home. I love my Magnepan MG-IIIs, enjoyed my LS3/5a, and my home theater is Meyer Sound/Trinnov Altitude 32. I currently use my 901s for 2 ch enjoyment and again, once you have them in the right position, the high frequency roll off and lack of micro detail is compensated by the soundstage that, again, in the right position, give you good phantom center imaging while also filling the space. Give them a try in your own home. I am sure SkyFi will lend them to you for another shoutout and video….
I'm still rocking the 601 Series IIIs I bought new in 1986 when I worked in a hifi store right out of high school. They still sound sublime. Liked the 901s but still love these 601s.
Bought a set of 601s used in the late '80's and ran them hard. When the surrounds went, I replaced the 8" drivers with JBLs. They are the only speakers I have ever owned and I'm still running them today. Have yet to hear anything better that would prompt me to replace them.
Thanks for the review. I'd lusted after the 901s since my first deployment to the Pacific back in the late 70s when I first went into the Navy, but they were out of my price range as well. Your video here now makes me think I wasn't missing anything ... LOL! Enjoyed the video, thanks.
Thanks Steve - One of my most impressive stereo memories involved a pair of 901's in the 1970's - I don't know what was driving them, but PF "Money" left a lasting impression. Of course, audiophiles tend to hate Bose for many reasons - lol. Sadly, they tend to just "sell the brand" much like RCA and other former powerhouse companies do these days with cheap Chinese imports. - Cheers!
In the summer of 1990 I worked at Circuit City. They sent some of us for 5 days of training to the Dunphy Hotel in San Mateo. That was mostly lame but there were some highlights. Cerwin Vega! had their Road Woofer semi truck with a mini theater and a wall of speakers in the parking lot. Another day Bose showed up with their home audio lineup, including the 901. To demonstrate its power handling capability they plugged them directly into a wall outlet. I kinda expected them to explode, but they took it. That holds the distinction of being the loudest 60Hz hum I've heard.
I've never heard the 901 speakers, but I do own a pair of Bose 10.2 tower speakers. Have you ever heard this model, which if I'm not mistaken was more of a flagship speaker than the 901. This model also received a positive and detailed review from High Fidelity (or another of the audiophile magazines). My 10.2 speakers are pretty comparable to my other speakers which include Klipsch, Infinity, Polk, and Definitive Technology. Have you ever reviewed this very heavy and expensive Bose model?
901s could really be improved by a superior, transparent modern signal path. They are unfortunately comprimised heavily by their outboard processing unit. I'm convinced with a miniDSP or any number of adequately designed solutions could extract a great deal more than their stock form. Of course they have inherent limitations regardless of EQ transparency.
I tried Deer Creek audio's digital solution...their expensive EQ with Toslink input. I returned it. I have 901 Series VI, the glossy black ones, and use a DAC to grab the Toslink from my TV to the Bose EQ. I use a Yamaha 120W receiver to power the Bose. The sound is okay,, the biggest thing about Bose 901's are the dynamics... they sound bigger than they look. They can get loud. And dialog is listenable at low volumes. My feeling is that the Bose EQ doesn't do enough. And there is no time delay correction between the drivers, so the sound can get muddy. But all in, I have about $400 invested (901s and top-of-the-line 2006 Yamaha). For the price, the sound is grand.
I have owned a pair of 501's for about 30 years. About a year ago I blew one of the light filament "fuses" they put in them to absorb any DC power from a faulty amp - sort of an internal "dim bulb" setup for those of you who work on vintage gear. It prompted me to pull them apart to see what makes them tick. Quite frankly, I was blown away by the poor quality of the speakers used. I replaced them all with high quality drivers and they sound amazing. Long story short, the speaker concept is sound, and if they had used high quality parts, they might have had a winner.
Fried IIIB's, after my AMT1s, were my first high-end speakers. I worked for a Bose dealer at the time and was surprised at how poorly they imaged, but how well they could make all tracks sound the same! A great party speaker. By the way, I had the original 901s and Bose's 1801 monster amp (20hz to 10khz, 12db down at 20khz!) that was designed to solve the current problem in my apartment for one week. Ugh!
In addition to a clean back wall, you really need at least a few feet of clean side walls as well. Otherwise the highs just sort of disappear into the clutter off to the side. I'm not going to argue that the 901 is anything but good mass market speaker, but they can sound pretty damn good when they are optimized as per Bose's' instructions. I had series 3s running off of a Sansui 110W class A amp and really enjoyed the sound.
Great video, thanks! I remember the BOSE 901V3 vividly back in the '80-ies. It wasn't anything at all compared to the KEFs, B&W's, Rogers, Castle, or even the Magnats, T+A of that era. You could poke holes in the way they sounded, but boy, did they go LOUD, with great dynamics. it was just great fun but not 'High Fidelity'. Loved to listen to live concert recordings on them, until I heard the LaScala's for the first time, on a little NAD 3020. Now that was WOW. Couldn't help noticing Sky-Fi's shop door sign in the vid; the metal deck of an otherwise completely stripped 301... Nice! And yet another bonus was to see Zappa's Apostrophe album in the background of your Today's Viewer System. My day was made, thanks!
Strange episode? Bose stopped evolving the 901 1988 (1968) after 20 years, and propably learned something over the years. At that time they succesfully moved into Lifestyle speakers with subwoofers and later systems. Open Baffle/Dipole are similar idéas? With the correct placement you get a great sound stage for classical concert and acoustic jazz music.
I did have the series IV for a couple of years and loved them. I then went on a rampage upgrading speakers and gear. Very pleasant sound with the soft highs and with a sub were a joy. For sure not an audiophile speaker but there are lots of applications for not audiophile speakers. I would pick up a pair for the living room in a heart beat if I had the money. But I'm broke from all the upgrades.
My first speaker that wasn't total S#!T was the mid-70s Bose 301 - later replaced by lo-end Infinity "Qa", then Rogers monitors, and I never looked back. As a musician with thousands of hours in string and sysmphony orchestras, for me Bose speakers were "interesting" in how false they sounded - yet I understand how non-musicians get a big kick with their 901's - whatever their rationalizations. A friend now has (4) 301's - rocking out in his garage. His real system has Maggie Ribbon/Planar hybrids, a dynamic "point source" (Von Schweikerts), and most recently a mid-90s Klipsch Chorus. He remains fascinated by how utterly different they sound - and all are enjoyable/fun/good-sounding. Each "does things" better than the others.
@@billimbriale8535 I did but didnt make sense when he said there were Magnepans behind them. Those look nothing like the traditional Maggies we're accustomed to but more like triple folded absorption panels with thick fabric on them. Is this some new Maggie model? And even if they were Maggies, they still look like they would hamper the reflected sound vs bare walls.
I owned a pair of Bose 6.2 Speakers between 1986 and 1998. At the time I bought them in West Germany in 1986, I was really interested in the Bose 901s, but they were both out of my budget and too big for my limited living space. Back then, I thought they sounded really good. So did the Bose 6.2s,... which came home with me after a listening session with Level42 (not immediately, but after my "lay away" plan was paid off. Anyone remember "lay away" payment plans?!... I bought my entire stacked HiFi stereo system, multi-system TV and VCR on it back in the '80s). Over time, I did come to learn that the Bose 6.2s needed a subwoofer and a EQ to get close to the sound I wanted to hear from my music. Great memories of those speakers...
I too think that back in the 70s/80s, the Bose 901 was the best sounding (affordable) speakers out there. Klipsch were fantastic, but out of the reach for most of us.
I own a pair of 301-Series 1, which I purchased in 2023 new-in-box. The bass is a bit boomy, and the highs are rolled off. When I say they are brand new, they are really brand new. Of course, the bass driver surround had to be repaired. I bought them in honor of a cousin that I lost to leukemia a couple of years ago. He owned a pair after saving his hard-earned money. To go with them, of course, a used Technics SA-828 receiver and a Technics SL-PD 1010 CD Changer. I have no plans to ever sell them. It was painful to lose him because he was my Big 80s buddy. I never owned the 901, but I had the chance to listen to them, and they were a major disappointment. I did like the 601 and owned a pair of 301-II. On the latter, I eventually moved on to something else. The concept was brilliant, but the execution, IMHO, was not good. Also, the asking price was not on par with the quality of the delivered item.
I had a pair of the 901 series 1 that I got for 200 dollars back in 98. The set was bought by the sellers brother in Korea, and the EQ box was set for Korean 240v power, and that is why they were so cheap. I opened it up, saw a giant resistor on the power cord, cut it off, soldered the connection back and the worked after that. They got a subwoofer after.
In my experience with Bose 901 Series IV over 15 years of use, 901's are ideal for Live DVD Concerts and/or Live Performances. This is where 901's sound just like being in the stadium or venue. Other speakers come close, but the 901's to me work best with Live Music.
My first good speaker was a Bose 401. They were placed close to the wall, not like in the video out in the room with the drivers directed at a Magnepan speaker, which probably reflects very little sound. They did something very important: They made me enjoy the music. Were they up to “audiophile” standards? Probably not, but music was very enjoyable to me. Just a few years ago, I set up my old stereo (Luxman with the Bose 401) for my dad, who used to listen to his (mostly classical) music on a little boom box. Just like 30 years ago, it brings joy to him (and me when visiting) to listen to music through those speakers. That is a winner in my book.
Old audiophile here. Many years ago after making my own speakers for a few years and after being quite happy with what I had, I decided to take home a pair of the early Bose 901s to see what all the excitement was about. I had pretty good tube gear at the time including a Citation II basic amp driving them and after several days of my audiophile friends and I trying our best to make them sound their best in several rooms, we concluded they were simply not up to the task and were not a serious audiophile speaker system. I had to return them. Heard them at several hi-fi shows as well set up by Bose personnel. This did not change our conclusion. I was sort of disappointed because I was hoping they might live up to the hype but unfortunately this was not to be.
I remember back in the 70's hearing several pairs and never liking the sound. I had the Large Advent speakers then driven by a Crown IC150 with a Marantz 1030 Integrated as the pre-amp. They smoked the Bose in every way possible. Love those Large Advents. Paid $129.00 each. Now I have Wilson WP7 for 20 years and love every minute with them.
I also wanted to add, I think after Dr. Amar Bose’s death, the company went in a much different direction than with Dr. Bose did. Now the company makes very cheap consumer electronics.
Steve, Interesting. I’ve always wondered how a pair of 901’s would sound today. Back in the late 70’s and early 80’s when I was selecting kit for my first real system I auditioned these. I went with Advents, however a number of friends went with the 901’s. The Quad 34 preamp, Quad 405 amp, and the Thorens TD-160 I purchased back then are still my core system. The Advents were the first in a series of speakers with Sttaf Totems my current kit. Both of my friends ended up having issues with the equalizers with repeated board failures causing them to move on from Bose. I wish you well with your Patreon business. Unfortunately I’m on a fixed income and what spare cash I end up with is invested in music.
They sounded bad enough 30 years ago, except for people who hadn’t experienced properly designed speaker before. Some of the most impressive demos of the 901s were based on showing how loud they could go, and not how good they could (or couldn’t) sound. It was way easier to impress people that way back then than it is today. 😉
Bose...What I remember. Being blown away when hearing them for the first time, stoned in Mr. Goodbar. One pair set up in the back of a huge room would rock the entire place. Got a Series 3. Five yers later the speakers had disintegrated and after much wrangling 'Bose' agreed to replace them with Series 6, for 'shipping' & 300 bucks. I finally 'graduated' to Sonus 10 years ago and don't regret the move at all. YMMV
I sold Bose for 20 years. It's sad they no longer make Stereo speakers any longer. The 901 need to be set up better. you have the right amp. But the wall behind them cant be full of all that stuff plus there is a certain distance from the wall they need to be. The best setup I ever heard was a pair set up in a room hanging from wire. They can be amazing if set up correctly
The "reflecting" speaker could possibly have sounded better with a clean back wall. I heard a set of these in the mid 70s. It was the first time I experienced sound stage.
I'm sure they would have sounded a LITTLE better with a clean wall. Looking over the comments from folks who had experience with 901s, very few think it was or is a good sounding speaker.
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Steve, I picked up a used pair of 901s in 1971 after my Large Advents were stolen. Don't know if they were Series 1 or not. I had a solid wall behind for proper set up. But I didn't want everything, including solo folk artists, to sound like a wall of sound. Also, I agreed with the slogan, "No highs, no lows, it must be Bose!"
I sold them after about 4 months and got another pair of Advents.
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac My friend from the previously mentioned era used to call them "Blows" speakers!
More direct, less reflect. Turn those speakers around!
Bose GM systems are actually quite good. They’re pretty balanced. IMHO, they sound better than the B&O systems in Ford.
Hi Steve...I was a BOSE dealer in Canada in the 1980's during the height of BOSE hysteria. Why I chose BOSE is because of the marketing and the line SOLD. They were not audiophile speakers at all. They were speakers for the non audiophile masses. I never had complaints and sold a a lot of BOSE....primarily 901s and 301s. My reference audiophile speaker that I sold was the ENERGY 22 which we sold a ton. Thanks for the memories Steve.
I had a pair of Energy 2.2 bookshelfs back in the 90's. They were a nice sounding speaker. I still have and use my Energy ES 8 sub and it puts out amazing tight deep bass for it's size. I also have an Energy AS90 12 inch sub that goes deeper but is not as tight sounding as the 8, but still pretty clean sounding.
As for the Bose 901 I have an interesting story. It must have been 1978. Back in the day we used to smoke a little weed and maybe sell a little on the side. So went with a buddy to see this dealer and he had a nice new pair of 901's. My friend had already listened to them and he convinced the guy to give me a demo. So he put on the debut Van Halen album and played Eruption. Needless to say I was blown away that day. They were cranked and Eddies guitar just filled the room. I probably had a bit of a buzz going which didn't hurt either. I saw and heard a few lesser Bose speakers afterwards but none really impressed me like that. I supect it was a whole combination of the speaker, the buzz and the right music combination that made it unforgettable.
As a previous owner of Series 1's, I have to point out that, without a clean reflecting back wall, you're not giving them much of a chance.
100% spot on! I’ve mentioned this so many times, that i lost count how many times lol. They’re very unforgiving of placement and the proper EQ wired in properly.
I got my 901’s vi series 2 the last and latest version made by Bose before they were discontinued. I found my 901’s new in the box from the manufacture date of 2012. From what I’ve heard they are very hard to find in new condition for the vi series 2.
Kind of funny, it's 1978 and I buy a pair of Tympani 1D's and my bud got him self a pair of Bose 901's. So kind of your setup in reverse....his setup sounded crap
and mine was heaven with a Sansui BA3000 amp...
@@c12performance19tympani nice.. would love to get a pair of those
You mean they weren’t intended to be placed a couple feet in front of giant panel speakers?? That seems like a horrible setup for ANY speaker, let alone a “dipole” that radiates 90% of its energy to the rear.
Crazy that you like every speaker that a manufacturer sends you for review but finally can be honest when reviewing a dead product
In 1972 my friend had 901s hanging from the ceiling in a 13 x 13 foot room. Connected to a reel to reel and a big Sansui amp with the
Rolling Stones blasting. That was my start into Hifi!
I love the story
You sound like a friend i used to know around same time his reel to reel set up was fantastic but he had Cerwin Vega speakers which back in the 70's were pretty good damn speakers. First time i saw a parachute he had set up on his ceiling the guy was one partier
My friends dad was a doctor and had a pair on a Marantz in his den. I had never heard anything that good and it started my love for stereo.
Even Steve's shirt is an acoustic panel.
.... just my initial thought at the start of the video
@@medonk12rs STEVE is an acoustic panel - both absorber and diffuser 😃
@@artkulak9802 hmm... 🙂
I think Steve is one of the most credible YT reviewers. After watching his videos for a while, I clearly can connect to what he's saying about stuff. No diffuse messages.
After over 20 years since I sold my 901s VI v1 speakers and bought into the HT crazy, I finally returned to my 2 channel routes a few months ago. I snagged some mint VI V2s off e-Bay and mated them to an Emotiva pre/power-amp set up. And I’m in love again. I’m spending hours listening to and getting reacquainted to my music collection again. Everything sounds right. I do have the perfect Man Cave that has the PERFECT wall/ceiling dimensions to allow the 901s to BREATHE. And they don’t disappoint. Shame on BOSE for ending production. BTW many say the VI V2s should be called the series VII given all the upgrades over the VI v1’s.
Welcome back.
BOSE, Better Off Sold On Ebay 😂😂
Bose direct/reflecting speakers ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE a room that is acoustically "live". When I was in college, MANY years ago, a guy in my dorm had a pair of Bose 501s. The dorm had cinder block walls, and they made his Bose speakers sound amazing. I'd never heard anything like it, before.
Forget about room treatment, when you're running Bose speakers. The joke about Bose speakers used to be that you pulled all of the furniture out of your listening room, and put pieces back in one at a time, to see if the speakers still worked.
A “live room” makes intuitive sense with the Bose 901s.
Skyfi (with all that beautiful equipment packing the space), probably wasn’t the best place to hear the Bose speakers.
Bought a pair of 901 Series 2 in 1973 and thought I was in audio nirvana until I went to an audio show in Philadelphia in 1975 and heard a pair of Dahlquist DQ-10's. No comparison.
I heard the DQ-10s in that timeframe and was blown away. I was poor and couldn’t afford them. The other speaker that knocked my socks off was the DCM Time Window 1A, which I heard sometime in the late 80s/early 90s. Bryston was using them at the Toronto high end show. The soundstage and imaging was incredible.
I had a pair of DQ10's. Excellent speaker.
Bazinga
Amar Bose was a serious engineer and was well regarded at the time. He and others did significant research in developing their designs. Bose, in particular, was trying to recreate the concert hall experience. Remember too that at the time, 4 channel was also a hot topic for the same reason.
While the company eventually went in other directions, Bose's research was legit and his speakers when first introduced were, contrary to what some have written here, considered inexpensive for what they offered: A big sound in a small package.
Today's audiophiles have largely abandoned the notion of trying to recreate the concert hall listening experience, instead opting for goals such as precise imaging, a concept which simply does not exist in any concert hall. To criticize Bose and others (Roy Allison for example), for not delivering a sound which adheres to what today's audiophiles think is "real", represents a total misunderstanding of historical speaker development and of what Amar Bose, in particular, was trying to measure and reproduce.
Obviously, everyone should enjoy whatever speaker they like. But not all of today's audiophile goals are akin to a concert hall experience.
How dare you say anything nice about Bose , you realize you are going to lose your “audiophile” street cred LOL btw great job
@@Patrick-ke5qt Hi Patrick, thanks.
Well spoken! Greetings from Denmark
Very well put. I think Bose became obsessed with psychoacoustics and market research in the 80s, and stopped trying to investigate physics-based acoustics and sound reproduction accuracy. The sudden design change of the 501 for its 5th generation is a good example.
Well, what Bose was doing was creating a specific effect instead of chasing any form of accuracy. I mean, I can stick a DSP in my system and get a gigantic concert hall effect, but do I want to be stuck with it for every recording and do I want to hear everything through very limited full range drivers? It was a speaker of a more experimental time.
1972…Freshman year of college…there was a rich kid in my dorm with a McIntosh Amp & a set of Bose 901s..I just remember listening to The Stones and how blown away I was by the power… I scurried back to my Acoustic Research Turntable and speakers, powered by a Sansui Amp…in AWE of what I had just heard down the hall! GREAT MEMORY!!! 😊
That was the McIntosh amp....
@@FelixtheMetalcat I recently bought one…YOU'RE RIGHT!!! 😊
I do think that the 901s would still be lacking, though..…an array 4” drivers can only give you so much, right? Steve was listening with a McIntosh amp…this time, I think?
@@FelixtheMetalcatfunny thing is McIntosh has about as many haters as Bose does
@@mikeg2491I have never once heard anyone badmouth McIntosh....I would assume they never owned or heard the product .
I have never once heard McIntosh badmouthed..... must be from those who won't pay the price.
I had a pair of 501s, and quickly upgraded to the JBL 100s.
I owned a pair of mint mint 901 series 1 imperial that I recently sold. My daily drivers are Magnepan 3.7i for reference (I also have vintage JM LABS, modern Falcon LS3/5 and Sonus Amators).
I have never understood or agreed when I hear the anecdotal “no high, no lows”.
My 901’s paired with its equalizer had ample highs and not a terrible speaker by any stretch.
Agree 100% with others who talk about the need for a solid, reflective surface behind the speakers. Without it, the speakers will sound like turds.
This is like auditioning a pair of Wilson speakers in your back yard and remarking they don't sound as good as you were expecting.
Duh.
...will sound like turds. the implication is that you have actually hooked two turds to your amp and then put on a record and listened. Or was it four turds during you quadraphonic period?
@@junesurfdog
What's the matter? Does it bother you that not everyone bashes Bose?
Anyone who's owned any iteration of the 901s will tell you the same thing. Have owned quite a few Bose products in the past and currently own a few, to include the 901s. The best acoustic solo piano recordings I've ever heard came via the 901s in an apartment while stationed in CO Springs. For solo piano, I preferred those over the B&W N805 or even the Dunlavy SC-IV. Driven by Pass Aleph amp and I think Rogue preamp (but not 100% sure about the pre).
Unfortunately, the 901s don't sound as good in my current location. I think the drywall material is different.
Properly set up in a good room the 901s can sound fabulous.
@@mamoruwilkie7669I look at Bose like people look at Apple nowadays. A lot of people hate on Apple gear but I have to say my AirPods Pro is phenomenal earbuds and I own much higher end products like the Sony IER-Z1R. If a boutique brand rolled them out and charged $800 for them with a different name I think critics would clap like seals.
La Scala and Klipschorn with modest electronics still blow everything else out of the water.
👏👏…..bose compared to klipsch…. is like a pinto compared to a lamborghini….
So if someone were to review say Magnapans and they were shoved in a corner of the room and they said these speakers are terrible, you would be all over them. Yet once again someone reviews 901's set up COMPLETLEY WRONG .If you would like to here them when they are set set up correctly , come to my place in eastern Long island .🙂
As said here above...the venue showing the spkrs is not conducive to them sounding very good. You were right about the best 901s being series 1 or 2. After that they changed to a bass reflex approach, with the Star Trek ports for efficiency and destroyed the sound. They became limp and lifeless soundwise and never sounded right. I owned 2 pair of the series 2s and when set up with a brick or concrete wall to their rear and high powered amps...200-250 watts /ch ..they threw a very realistic concert presentation with the lights out in the dark ...Patti Smith's "Horses" was truly a magical experience. Also of note , the driver surrounds on these series did not suffer from the foam degradion that happened in subsequent series. (It is not always true that newer is always better) . With dsp eq in some of today's gear , it would be very interesting to hear what they could do in today's market. Food for thought....
I'm a sound engineer with four decades experience in live and recorded sound and have also done many nightclub and other venue installations. There's a famous saying in the industry..... No highs, no lows. Must be Bose!! 😁
I’m a long time audiophile since the late 70’s. I was introduced to hi-fi gear from my uncle who was a Vietnam veteran in the Marines during the 60’s. A long story short, when he came home from Vietnam as many veterans did, he had brought a bunch of hi-fi gear from the ox exchange in Okinawa, JP. I was around 10 years old in the early 70’s when I first heard hi-fi gear , to say the least I was blown away lol. So much so I got into it as previously mentioned in the later part of the 70’s.
A few years ago I acquired a set of 901 series 3. I opened them up to see the internals and was pretty shocked, the materials and build quality are abysmal! Anyway they sounded horrible no matter how they were positioned in the room or what EQ setting I could push out.
The only time I was in a Fry's Electronics they had a dedicated Bose area. They had a clear acrylic acoustimass module in the display and was horrified at the component quality - stamped frame woofer, bipolar electrolytic caps. Put me off forever.
I will say also as an electronics tech and a Bose 901 VI series 2 owner and multiple Infinity speakers, that the 901’s can sound much better than what you have experienced. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that. The biggest downfall of these speakers is placement, placement & placement. They’re super critical on placement and the proper EQ per series.
My 901’s do come quite close to my Infinity Kappa 9’s.
However they’re still lacking as I too have them improperly placed as I have limited space in my living room and have hardwood floors.
Hi Steve,
Nice to see you are reviewing the Bose 901 speakers, I had the series IV some 50 years ago.
I bought them new and powered them was a big Marantz receiver, it gave me years of good and loud sound, and I remember them with great dear.
I use them for my wedding ceremony in the church (40 years ago), a friend of mine put the music for the occasion, in that way I didn’t pay a chorus.
20 years after when I moved from my home, I left them on my father’s place, and I bought another Bose equipment, smaller and with better treble sound, “The Lifestyle 20”.
When my father passed away, I sold the 901s, and although the cabinet and the cones were still fine, the rubber rims had to be replaced.
All in all I cherish those speakers, they were a good company for many years, now with more experience in a backward look I find the same as you, although the sound was open the trebles were a bit course, with no definition.
Nowadays I have the KEF reference 5 speakers powered with a McIntosh integrated amp MA 9500, they sound superb however, I still remember my 901s with affection.
Cheers, and keep your nice program alive.-
I sold Bose speakers in the late 70's and early 80's and we used to say: "No highs, no lows, must be Bose!"
Seems about right for speakers with no woofers or tweeters.
Ha, never heard that before.🙄 But as is often the case with truisms, this was not true across all products. Yes, my Bose Acoustimass system (with the little cubes) was terrible. On the other hand, my Bose QuietComfort 45 Noise Cancelling headphones are quite impressive, and my Bose Wave table radio sounds amazing. Sorry!
except for the 10.2 which I owned and used for almost 20 yrs
I remember those days, but we shortened our criticism to just "Blose".
So obvious but i never thought of it lol
From what I’ve heard after Dr. Bose’s death, that MIT were he taught sound theory and engineering took over and owns Bose currently.
Ah yes, a "non-profit".
I had a pair of 901 series 4 and what they did do well was fill a room with sound ,😅perfect for a party in my 30s. You cannot beat the volume. You would get out of these a great party speaker not a serious two channel sitting in your chair listening, but crank up the volumes and do a shot with the gang 🎉
This. I had a pair of 301s mounted on the long wall of a long, narrow room. You heard stereo effects wherever you were in the room. They weren't the highest fidelity, but were a great choice in sub-optimal conditions
Both of you nailed it...exactly that. Great party speakers, not for critical listening.
@@FelixtheMetalcatBut the party speakers may end up with you getting laid at the end of the night so they pay for themselves!
I have a pair of 901 Series III from 1976 and I'm really happy with the sound. They had bad foam rot when I got them so I bought a foam replacement kit and fixed them up. I've been using them for 15 years or so. I'd describe the highs as silky and the bass as warm but not as punchy as my modern speakers. Definitely an open sound.
When I was in college 40 years ago, I had a pair of 901s in the large frat house I lived in. I had them running with a powerful Sansui integrated amp. Those speakers rocked the house. They may not have been tonally accurate but we didn't care. They were just so much fun. They were the ultimate party speaker back in the day.
I have a pair of 901 series four in my workshop hung above the bench. They are great shop speakers. Consistent sound anywhere in the room and you don’t get blasted out when you’re up close. And they sound good enough to jam out when taking a break. They aren’t hifi by any stretch.
Last year I heard a pair of original 1st series BOSE 301's for the first time and they sounded quite good. I wouldn't say they were real HIFI but certainly OK mid-fi, like many speakers of their era and price.
I've never heard the Bose 901s however I think the theory behind the design is interesting.
The Bose 901 was a very interesting design and development at the time they were introduced.Your take on direct reflecting speaker is point on in. every word as you stated.The company gave up on their iconic design..and yes its sad. And the Klipshorns are still in production. Bose now turned the focus on headphones and soundbars not exactly hi end product.They sound nice but way to expensive for my taste and budget.But there are people who will not part with that beloved look and in name only..and theres nothing wrong with that.I had listened to the 901's back in the day and i was not impressed. But to each his/ her own.I think its great that you revisited the 901 just for the sake of curiosity. Ok enough said about the 901's..lets talk about the Klipshorns. Thank you Steve Guttenberg for another wonderful post.Keep up the good work..and maybe some day i will get to visit SKYFI audio..heaven
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I had a pair of 901 Series II in the 80s and it sounds fantastic. I cannot believe that you are missing bass, mine were so powerfull and deep, actually my current 12 inch KEF subwoofer does not deliver more. Maybe they changed or whatever, but that 901 in my room were fantastic and all of my friends were overwhelmed. My older brother still has his pair of 901 II and its still a joy to listen. Actually i cannot agree that most people knowing 901 think they were not good speakers. Its just vice verse, all of my friends came visiting me only for listening them and those who could pay for them, bought a pair for themselves. I dont know what is wrong with your speakers, but mine were fantastic. I also heard a pair of 601, but those were really very bad. Another universe.
My uncle in the early 70’s had a pair of 901 series 2. And I was really impressed with how they sounded.
I am a musician and in the mid 70s would play a bunch of hotel restaurants and travel from town to town, I bought two pairs of 901 series ones speakers to use as a small vocal PA system, the original Bose Equalizers were lost of course. Bose was selling 800s by then which was a 901 without the single "front" speaker, and were turned around to face the 6 reflecting speakers toward the audience. I did get a Peavey CS800 watt amp (400 per channel) to drive them and just turned the 901s around. It worked OK and was much easier to transport than other speakers at the time. Dude to the lack of a crossover, they advertised them as a natural sound. In the end, I don't miss them a bit....LOL
Great story Ken, thanks for sharing.
I remember when I was a teenager in the mid 70s. My cousin had Klipsch Horns and my friend’s parents had Bose 901s. Both were driven with high quality amplifiers. The difference was unimaginable
The Series I was a sealed enclosure. After that they went reflex. Had to make a substantial difference. My only experience was with the original series. I loved them and they were positioned properly but my ears weren’t nearly as trained as they are now. Dr. Bose was on to something.
I believe that Dr. Bose really believed that the concept was right, but it wasn’t, as proven both by science and the fact that no other company ever tried a similar design.
Any sealed enclosure will have a lot less bass output (for the same internal volume and drivers), with the benefit of reducing the bass “boomyness” associated with poorly designed ported enclosures.
But even if the sealed enclosure was able to be beneficial in the bass frequencies, it would have zero effect on the other huge problem of the 901 design, which is too little and unnatural high frequencies leaving mostly the back side of the speaker. 😉
You defined exactly what happened to you, which was basically learning that they weren’t that great after all, _after_ listening some properly designed quality loudspeakers. 😉
Bose is doing a really good job in their bluetooth speakers department. They are experts in tricking your brain to think they sound awesome. I got a Soundlink Micro some 5 years ago and I’m still amazed by the sound that comes out of such a small thing.
The modern world is perfect for Bose. They pioneered the use of DSP in audio and portable speakers and car stereos are a perfect environment to benefit from DSP managed sound
Yes, i have a soundlink Mini 2, i bought in 2017, that thing is so impressive! Good bass, good sound, the battery life is till excellent 7 years later!
@@fisephalnoxt they might seem expensive but the value for money is insane.
@@J0hnny8ravo Yes, it's 100% worth it!
I had two pair of the first series 901's in 1971. They were very nice and stood up well against other brands at that time. I ended up using a Phase Liner 400 , more than enough power. They were stored for years and recently were reborn as the surround speakers for my TV set up. They love it.
I bought a pair of Bose 901 Vi (new) with the equalizer and could never make them work to my satisfaction. Once I heard the Mirage MS3I, the Bose were gone. Never got to buy a pair of the Mirages but they blew away almost everything else I head aside from the B&W 801s which is the best speaker system that I have ever heard.
Btw the demo setup we had in the stores was hanging the 901 off of chains near the ceiling. That gave us 3 surfaces to reflect from. It worked but everyone bought stands which never equaled the ceiling mount.
Friend of mine back in the day had a old Kenwood 9600 receiver with a pair of Altec Lansing speakers then he had the 901 Bose hanging from the ceiling. They sounded pretty good.
I think the speakers were not set up properly or they were connected improperly. A solid back wall and proper connection is key. Because they are connected to the receiver through the cassette deck using the equalizer, one has to make sure the cassette is selected on receiver. It makes a huge difference in sound when selecting the tape deck on the receiver. I have 901s hooked up to a vintage Hitachi SA-2500 - not a robust receiver at all but it drives the 901s beautifully. I think you need to visit someone with them hooked properly in home with real walls and furniture. I live in southern NJ. You’re welcome to come here. I also have a pair of Rectilinear Lowboys that I think you’d really enjoy hearing.
My uncle had one pair of Bose 901-1, and one pair of Bozak Symphony. Both driven by powerful McIntosh amplifiers. It was never possible to get the Bose pair to sound any good.
My dad and I set up the original 901s about 1 foot from a wall. And they were about 5 ft. From the floor. We originally heard them set up in a Church. Great sound.
My frosh year in college (1977) we had a guy give a presentation on home audio. Someone asked about the 901's. He turned to the back of the stage and said "do i sound the same?"
Steve with the 901 the room is a part of the speaker design as well as the positioning in the room. I had always had 901s between about 1970 and 2014, when I built my own direct/reflecting speakers with variable gain pots for the front drivers. The 901s easily blew away all other speakers in most store demos. Most customers wondered "how do they do that." They would use the 901s to demo most of their electronics if they wanted to impress people with the HUGE sound. They fell out of favor when the dealers realized that the 901s were taking their high end sales away from them and they were losing money. I discovered that mis-positioning them lost the focus for the center images but Bose wouldn't change their manual to make it correct. That is still a problem with most speakers, especially dipoles. The sound that we hear is a combination of direct and reflected sound shaped by the room but as yet there is no guidance about this except from me. If you are interested look up "An Image Model Theory for Stereophonic Sound" at the AES, paper from 1989.
I heard a pair of stacked 901s with McIntosh mono amps back in the late 70s at a great audio store, and they sounded really good, of course, they had them set up well and that made a huge difference. Morning Has Broken was one of the songs played it sounded live like in an in-room experience. I think these speakers needed proper space and setup to sound their best, any clutter around them behind them killed what they were capable of.
901's need walls, ample clean power (nothing warm sounding) and set up exactly like owners manual suggest. With that they can sound pretty decent.
I still own the Bose 301 series 4 still in pristine sounding condition with the surrounds still looking as when I bought them in later 1996. I use them as my "B" speakers while running my Elac debut 6.2 as my "A" on my Yamaha R-N803 receiver.
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I own a pair of the original 901’s. I had them set up with the Sony ta2000 pre and 3200f amplifier (100watts per channel) and they sounded good. Everyone said you have to get a Crown DC300 but they sounded not as good (maybe more bass). I found they needed a drywall (or harder) wall behind them and a really clean sounding amp to sound good. I lived in a farmhouse with thick stone walls and they sounded very good. Putting the Maggie’s behind them for a review would not be useful for an accurate review of what they could sound like if set up correctly. Someone mentioned an Emotiva or I would add a more powerful class D amplifier and I think you would take your review back.
I have the 501 and they sound GREAT!!!!! It would be great if Bose would resume to build REAL speakers rather than TOYS.
I recently learned that back in the day, Bose required retailers to 1) set up a specific listening room to work with the 901s - that made the speakers sound good, but you could never duplicate in your home, 2) Bose forbid any other brand speakers in the listening room, and forbid any A-B comparisons between Bose and any other brand speaker. That to me speaks volumes about Bose as a Marketing company, not a speaker company. They knew that their speakers could not compare favorably with other brands, and prevented buyers from finding that out.
Interesting theory, but Bose has long since given up even trying to sell speakers! Apparently they weren't that successful since they no longer even compete.
I’m not a huge Boz fan, but they have to have a reflective wall behind them for them to operate as they are intended. They definitely sound a lot better with that up properly, but they are still not my cup of tea.
Back in the 70's a friend and I often listened and compared speakers--and even built our own. He had the Bose 901 SII powered by a Dynaco ST-400 power amp. Sound wasn't bad; I remember that the rear wall (reflecting surface) was critical. I suspect that having the Maggies behind them didn't help the sound. By the way, I also enjoyed the IM Fried R series which employed the famous KEF drivers of that era. These, along with the LS3/5a monitors, suited me better. IM Fried also offered a more expensive sub/sat system with a passive crossover which you may remember. Later, when I owned an audio shop, I became involved with audio manufacturers in Philadelphia. Thanks for the memories!
One by last thing to add, the original 901’s series 1 were hard to drive and did need lot of power as they were closed boxes, not ported as their later versions.
Back in the early 80’s a military bud overseas had a pair of 901’s in his dorm room. Music came from behind me from all over! I still remember that music session.
I had a pair of 901s in my military dorm room overseas in the early 80s. Bought them in K town. That's what you did back then when you went overseas....bought electronics.
@@tedplehn8800 I used to go to local pawn shops to buy oversea high end electronics that weren't available here. Had to make sure the switch for 220 or 120 volt in back was switched to 120 volt. This is in Wichita, Ks. Bought a Yamaha M70 power amp, Soundcraftsman preamp, Akai preamp, etc. Not that way anymore. I think that the status symbol for military guys is over.
Bose was always great at MARKETING to people who really didn't know much, they got you on the reflective business....as a youngster in 1979, I bought a pair of 301s and I liked them because they played LOUD AND I could afford them. I can tell you that I heard plenty of other speakers that sounded worse. The 901s were lively sounding but I never thought they were worth the money. Once I heard Klipsch and Paradigm I never looked back and kinda chuckle at all the hype (still going today). I'm a Focal/ Dali/ Mirage listener today and much happier for it.
I had 501's in the 70's and then while in the Army was offered a great deal on a whole system that had 901's the Pioneer system was great but the I liked the 501's better than the 901's but it is probably a good thing they don't make passive speakers anymore.
Had Bose 301s when I was young. They are fun for loud parties with friends. As your tastes change so does feelings for bose. You answered your own questions Steve. The reason they have moved onto their next chapter. This sound was made action movies or an NFL game not Louis Armstrong. Glad I was around for the craze.
I have the Bose 901 With the denon amp now for a year and I liked them so much the sound is good and the bass feels like your in a cinema
ive had three pairs, of various series 901's, two which needed restoration (all surrounds replaced) and one mint pair. all for resell. i did use them all briefly in my listening room for a while with EQ and summarize as follows. The 901's are not for critical listening, but more about the experience which due to their direct / reflecting approach is unique and unlike any other. IMO they seem to come into their own when driven with power and under volume. as such they would make for a fun party speaker in a large space, and although i have not kept any long term i had fun with them passing through, and have always loved the way they look especially on those tulip stands.
Have a pair of these exact vintage. They have a “sound” that you either like or don’t. Placement is key, as is amplification. Having them in front of an absorbing surface will cause an issue. Thanks for reviewing such a vintage speaker. Great content as always!
I tried different kinds of speakers B+W , CANTON,Magnepan ,KEF…..I owned a lot of speakers over the years but always coming back to the Bose 901 .I don’t know why. I like the sound. The last 2 years I am the owner of 901 updated by ‘KLangstark’ better drivers and a different equalizer and it’s really nice.
You did it now. BOSE bashers are coming out of the woodwork now.
You say that, as if that bashing it not completely warranted...
I've always liked the Bose aesthetics in the 80s speakers. I grew up down the street from a circuit city and I heard them against different speakers the 901s always sounded bad 501s and 301s sounded decent but never woo'd me. I've always been interested in the Japanese Bose there's a series called the West borough series you should check out. I've also wanted to check the Bose 901s with the wings on the side .Get on hifido you'll see all kinds of cool Bose stuff. I wanna add a tweeter to a pair and some woofers and see how it sounds i had a buddy do that back in the day id like to do it again
Not HiFi or audiophile - but - my only experience with Bose is with their PA kit. I used to manage a set of Panarray speakers with subwoofer and Bose equalisation module. All driven with a couple of Kw of Mackie power in a 19" rack in a 600 seat concert hall. I used to take my favourite CDs and have a play when the hall was empty in the interest of "maintenance". It was a lot of fun.
I was a teen in the 70's. I had a friend whose Dad was a salesman for Harvey Sound in NYC. He had a pair of 901's in his home. I was blown away by the sound back then. It was the soundstage that got me the sound seemed to come out of thin air! He also used a McIntosh front end.
I have a pair of 601 series IV. I purchased them around 2015 or 2016 and the only reason I keep them is that they look great in my living room. And yes, no highs, no lows, they must be Bose!
As a 14 year old pot smoking teenager in 1973, my friend bought a pair of Bose 901's. I was completely blown away. Most awesome speakers I have ever heard. Fast forward to 1988, I bought a pair of series VI. Let's just say ... I was underwhelmed. A few years later I bought some Polk Monitor 10's for $120 ... they blew the 901's away. I have since stepped waay up ($100k), but I still have the Polk's in my backup system.
I pair Bose 901 with Dirac to do full correction. The speakers work a lot better with modern equalization rather than the box. I had both Series 1 and VI, and the VI is better. BUT you need to drop the external box for the DSP. The 2017 Bose 901 Series VI ver 2 has the ribbed surrounds and decreases distortion.
As pointed out, they are more room dependent than Magnepans and this is where you should let SkyFi lend them to you to try at home.
I love my Magnepan MG-IIIs, enjoyed my LS3/5a, and my home theater is Meyer Sound/Trinnov Altitude 32. I currently use my 901s for 2 ch enjoyment and again, once you have them in the right position, the high frequency roll off and lack of micro detail is compensated by the soundstage that, again, in the right position, give you good phantom center imaging while also filling the space.
Give them a try in your own home. I am sure SkyFi will lend them to you for another shoutout and video….
I'm still rocking the 601 Series IIIs I bought new in 1986 when I worked in a hifi store right out of high school.
They still sound sublime. Liked the 901s but still love these 601s.
You got the better speakers....
Bought a set of 601s used in the late '80's and ran them hard. When the surrounds went, I replaced the 8" drivers with JBLs. They are the only speakers I have ever owned and I'm still running them today. Have yet to hear anything better that would prompt me to replace them.
Thanks for the review. I'd lusted after the 901s since my first deployment to the Pacific back in the late 70s when I first went into the Navy, but they were out of my price range as well. Your video here now makes me think I wasn't missing anything ... LOL! Enjoyed the video, thanks.
Thanks Steve - One of my most impressive stereo memories involved a pair of 901's in the 1970's - I don't know what was driving them, but PF "Money" left a lasting impression.
Of course, audiophiles tend to hate Bose for many reasons - lol.
Sadly, they tend to just "sell the brand" much like RCA and other former powerhouse companies do these days with cheap Chinese imports. - Cheers!
Love the 901 pedestal. That’s about it.
In the summer of 1990 I worked at Circuit City. They sent some of us for 5 days of training to the Dunphy Hotel in San Mateo. That was mostly lame but there were some highlights. Cerwin Vega! had their Road Woofer semi truck with a mini theater and a wall of speakers in the parking lot. Another day Bose showed up with their home audio lineup, including the 901. To demonstrate its power handling capability they plugged them directly into a wall outlet. I kinda expected them to explode, but they took it. That holds the distinction of being the loudest 60Hz hum I've heard.
That was the JBL woofers that were plugged right into a 120V outlet not the Bose. Bose would have caught on fire.
@@michaelcharach Well I don't recall them trying to play music through them after that. But the Bose reps certainly did not bring any JBLs with them.
I've never heard the 901 speakers, but I do own a pair of Bose 10.2 tower speakers. Have you ever heard this model, which if I'm not mistaken was more of a flagship speaker than the 901. This model also received a positive and detailed review from High Fidelity (or another of the audiophile magazines). My 10.2 speakers are pretty comparable to my other speakers which include Klipsch, Infinity, Polk, and Definitive Technology. Have you ever reviewed this very heavy and expensive Bose model?
901s could really be improved by a superior, transparent modern signal path.
They are unfortunately comprimised heavily by their outboard processing unit.
I'm convinced with a miniDSP or any number of adequately designed solutions could extract a great deal more than their stock form.
Of course they have inherent limitations regardless of EQ transparency.
I tried Deer Creek audio's digital solution...their expensive EQ with Toslink input. I returned it.
I have 901 Series VI, the glossy black ones, and use a DAC to grab the Toslink from my TV to the Bose EQ. I use a Yamaha 120W receiver to power the Bose. The sound is okay,, the biggest thing about Bose 901's are the dynamics... they sound bigger than they look. They can get loud. And dialog is listenable at low volumes.
My feeling is that the Bose EQ doesn't do enough. And there is no time delay correction between the drivers, so the sound can get muddy.
But all in, I have about $400 invested (901s and top-of-the-line 2006 Yamaha). For the price, the sound is grand.
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I have owned a pair of 501's for about 30 years. About a year ago I blew one of the light filament "fuses" they put in them to absorb any DC power from a faulty amp - sort of an internal "dim bulb" setup for those of you who work on vintage gear. It prompted me to pull them apart to see what makes them tick. Quite frankly, I was blown away by the poor quality of the speakers used. I replaced them all with high quality drivers and they sound amazing. Long story short, the speaker concept is sound, and if they had used high quality parts, they might have had a winner.
Fried IIIB's, after my AMT1s, were my first high-end speakers. I worked for a Bose dealer at the time and was surprised at how poorly they imaged, but how well they could make all tracks sound the same! A great party speaker. By the way, I had the original 901s and Bose's 1801 monster amp (20hz to 10khz, 12db down at 20khz!) that was designed to solve the current problem in my apartment for one week. Ugh!
Bose could probably have done something with the design if they had employed a good speaker designer who would use different drivers etc.
In addition to a clean back wall, you really need at least a few feet of clean side walls as well. Otherwise the highs just sort of disappear into the clutter off to the side. I'm not going to argue that the 901 is anything but good mass market speaker, but they can sound pretty damn good when they are optimized as per Bose's' instructions. I had series 3s running off of a Sansui 110W class A amp and really enjoyed the sound.
Great video, thanks! I remember the BOSE 901V3 vividly back in the '80-ies. It wasn't anything at all compared to the KEFs, B&W's, Rogers, Castle, or even the Magnats, T+A of that era. You could poke holes in the way they sounded, but boy, did they go LOUD, with great dynamics. it was just great fun but not 'High Fidelity'. Loved to listen to live concert recordings on them, until I heard the LaScala's for the first time, on a little NAD 3020. Now that was WOW.
Couldn't help noticing Sky-Fi's shop door sign in the vid; the metal deck of an otherwise completely stripped 301... Nice! And yet another bonus was to see Zappa's Apostrophe album in the background of your Today's Viewer System. My day was made, thanks!
Strange episode? Bose stopped evolving the 901 1988 (1968) after 20 years, and propably learned something over the years. At that time they succesfully moved into Lifestyle speakers with subwoofers and later systems.
Open Baffle/Dipole are similar idéas? With the correct placement you get a great sound stage for classical concert and acoustic jazz music.
I did have the series IV for a couple of years and loved them. I then went on a rampage upgrading speakers and gear. Very pleasant sound with the soft highs and with a sub were a joy. For sure not an audiophile speaker but there are lots of applications for not audiophile speakers. I would pick up a pair for the living room in a heart beat if I had the money. But I'm broke from all the upgrades.
Yeah, I get it. But my bigger question is, why did Bose stop making speakers? They're a huge company, surely they had the resources.
My first speaker that wasn't total S#!T was the mid-70s Bose 301 - later replaced by lo-end Infinity "Qa", then Rogers monitors, and I never looked back.
As a musician with thousands of hours in string and sysmphony orchestras, for me Bose speakers were "interesting" in how false they sounded - yet I understand how non-musicians get a big kick with their 901's - whatever their rationalizations.
A friend now has (4) 301's - rocking out in his garage. His real system has Maggie Ribbon/Planar hybrids, a dynamic "point source" (Von Schweikerts), and most recently a mid-90s Klipsch Chorus.
He remains fascinated by how utterly different they sound - and all are enjoyable/fun/good-sounding. Each "does things" better than the others.
Are those sound absorption panels behind the 901s? If so doesnt make sense since it depends on reflected sound from the back.
Did you watch the video?
@@billimbriale8535 I did but didnt make sense when he said there were Magnepans behind them. Those look nothing like the traditional Maggies we're accustomed to but more like triple folded absorption panels with thick fabric on them. Is this some new Maggie model? And even if they were Maggies, they still look like they would hamper the reflected sound vs bare walls.
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Magnepan Tympanis. Older model that's been discontinued for a while, I think.
Man, I bet that Viewer System rocks!
I owned a pair of Bose 6.2 Speakers between 1986 and 1998. At the time I bought them in West Germany in 1986, I was really interested in the Bose 901s, but they were both out of my budget and too big for my limited living space. Back then, I thought they sounded really good. So did the Bose 6.2s,... which came home with me after a listening session with Level42 (not immediately, but after my "lay away" plan was paid off. Anyone remember "lay away" payment plans?!... I bought my entire stacked HiFi stereo system, multi-system TV and VCR on it back in the '80s). Over time, I did come to learn that the Bose 6.2s needed a subwoofer and a EQ to get close to the sound I wanted to hear from my music. Great memories of those speakers...
Closest I ever got was a set of Bose 101 still hanging on my wall but hardly used.
I too think that back in the 70s/80s, the Bose 901 was the best sounding (affordable) speakers out there. Klipsch were fantastic, but out of the reach for most of us.
I own a pair of 301-Series 1, which I purchased in 2023 new-in-box. The bass is a bit boomy, and the highs are rolled off. When I say they are brand new, they are really brand new. Of course, the bass driver surround had to be repaired. I bought them in honor of a cousin that I lost to leukemia a couple of years ago. He owned a pair after saving his hard-earned money. To go with them, of course, a used Technics SA-828 receiver and a Technics SL-PD 1010 CD Changer. I have no plans to ever sell them. It was painful to lose him because he was my Big 80s buddy.
I never owned the 901, but I had the chance to listen to them, and they were a major disappointment. I did like the 601 and owned a pair of 301-II. On the latter, I eventually moved on to something else. The concept was brilliant, but the execution, IMHO, was not good. Also, the asking price was not on par with the quality of the delivered item.
I had a pair of the 901 series 1 that I got for 200 dollars back in 98. The set was bought by the sellers brother in Korea, and the EQ box was set for Korean 240v power, and that is why they were so cheap. I opened it up, saw a giant resistor on the power cord, cut it off, soldered the connection back and the worked after that. They got a subwoofer after.
In my experience with Bose 901 Series IV over 15 years of use, 901's are ideal for Live DVD Concerts and/or Live Performances. This is where 901's sound just like being in the stadium or venue. Other speakers come close, but the 901's to me work best with Live Music.
My first good speaker was a Bose 401. They were placed close to the wall, not like in the video out in the room with the drivers directed at a Magnepan speaker, which probably reflects very little sound. They did something very important: They made me enjoy the music. Were they up to “audiophile” standards? Probably not, but music was very enjoyable to me. Just a few years ago, I set up my old stereo (Luxman with the Bose 401) for my dad, who used to listen to his (mostly classical) music on a little boom box. Just like 30 years ago, it brings joy to him (and me when visiting) to listen to music through those speakers. That is a winner in my book.
Old audiophile here. Many years ago after making my own speakers for a few years and after being quite happy with what I had, I decided to take home a pair of the early Bose 901s to see what all the excitement was about. I had pretty good tube gear at the time including a Citation II basic amp driving them and after several days of my audiophile friends and I trying our best to make them sound their best in several rooms, we concluded they were simply not up to the task and were not a serious audiophile speaker system. I had to return them. Heard them at several hi-fi shows as well set up by Bose personnel. This did not change our conclusion. I was sort of disappointed because I was hoping they might live up to the hype but unfortunately this was not to be.
I remember back in the 70's hearing several pairs and never liking the sound. I had the Large Advent speakers then driven by a Crown IC150 with a Marantz 1030 Integrated as the pre-amp. They smoked the Bose in every way possible. Love those Large Advents. Paid $129.00 each. Now I have Wilson WP7 for 20 years and love every minute with them.
I had a pair of 25th Anniversary Large Advents. Drove them with a big Parasound and they sounded really good. Never should have sold them.
@@ChicagoRob2 Ditto
I also wanted to add, I think after Dr. Amar Bose’s death, the company went in a much different direction than with Dr. Bose did. Now the company makes very cheap consumer electronics.
Steve,
Interesting. I’ve always wondered how a pair of 901’s would sound today.
Back in the late 70’s and early 80’s when I was selecting kit for my first real system I auditioned these. I went with Advents, however a number of friends went with the 901’s.
The Quad 34 preamp, Quad 405 amp, and the Thorens TD-160 I purchased back then are still my core system. The Advents were the first in a series of speakers with Sttaf Totems my current kit.
Both of my friends ended up having issues with the equalizers with repeated board failures causing them to move on from Bose.
I wish you well with your Patreon business. Unfortunately I’m on a fixed income and what spare cash I end up with is invested in music.
They sounded bad enough 30 years ago, except for people who hadn’t experienced properly designed speaker before.
Some of the most impressive demos of the 901s were based on showing how loud they could go, and not how good they could (or couldn’t) sound.
It was way easier to impress people that way back then than it is today. 😉
Bose...What I remember. Being blown away when hearing them for the first time, stoned in Mr. Goodbar. One pair set up in the back of a huge room would rock the entire place. Got a Series 3. Five yers later the speakers had disintegrated and after much wrangling 'Bose' agreed to replace them with Series 6, for 'shipping' & 300 bucks. I finally 'graduated' to Sonus 10 years ago and don't regret the move at all. YMMV
Great story thanks for sharing!
I sold Bose for 20 years. It's sad they no longer make Stereo speakers any longer. The 901 need to be set up better. you have the right amp. But the wall behind them cant be full of all that stuff plus there is a certain distance from the wall they need to be. The best setup I ever heard was a pair set up in a room hanging from wire. They can be amazing if set up correctly