3:05 if you don't proceed forward in the middle after the red arrow disappears and treat the situation as a *GIVE WAY* uncontrolled intersection, you would fail with the majority of driving test assessors in Perth
@urlame1447 good chance the traffic on the left hand side along with the traffic on the right hand side of the intersection will have a green light....that's maybe one possibility.
I failed my driving test at Rockingham again today for this particular reason/scenario. I tried to get the assessor to explain to me exactly what i did wrong , and what i should have done.this is my 7th time, my heart is so heavy ,as i'm not confident anymore and wonder if i'll ever pass the PDA.😥😥
@DrivingSchoolWA there is an intersection pretty much the same as this one near where i live, the corner of Hillview Terrace and Berwick Street sometimes it can be very busy
That's very informative and cleared my confusion of why my instructor told me to proceed to the middle when there's green light with no arrow. Thanks mate!
This is pretty helpful. I'm not from AU so I'm a bit scared to do this can of turns haha! But I loved the way you showed us this video from different perspectives
I have a question: suppose I am waiting near the square box at green light and looking for the clearance to turn right. Lets say it is a very busy road and the traffic signal changes to red but I haven't been able to turn right and cross the road. In this case whose priority will be the top? I suppose mine, am I correct? Or what is the rule here? Appreciate your help. Thanks
Thank you much, I come from country where there is no traffic lights, I have no problem with traffic lights with arrow but I do have problem with there light when there is no arrow
Hey Mate, so does that means when there is a Solid green light (not an arrow) we have to wait in middle and look out for the traffic and then go.And when theres a green arrow, we can just normally make a right turn. Thanks!
Hi i have my driving test soon. Is it ok to cross over your hands when steering? I find it much easier then feeding the wheel. Also is it ok to let the wheel slide In your hand to self centre in the test.
Thank You for the informative information What if there is car turning left on the opposite direction with give a way sign, should i still continue proceed if i am turning right with grren no arrow?
@DrivingSchoolWA I know exactly where that intersection is. Before moving down this way I lived in Balga mum and dad used to use it all the tine when they'd take us to school as kids occasionally, I'm not sure but I think that intersection has a camera that yellow pole near where you were standing is a camera I'm not too sure
Question: what do you do at lights without green right arrow, heavy oncoming traffic that likes to go full speed even in amber light and you got to turn right? Unfortunately, we have just too many busy intersections without a right arrow lights!
Traffic lights with no green arrow, or just showing blank, is dangerous. I am four days past from a T-bone accident that I accidentally caused, without due consideration of giving way to oncoming traffic from the opposite direction. I still haven't emotionally recovered from the trauma. Such traffic lights with no green arrow present shouldn't even exist!!! I am deeply disappointed and scarred for life from the incident 😡. Now I temporarily lost confidence in driving thanks to these kinds of traffic lights.
Horrible, I got confused by the same lights and was involved in a fatal car crash with fractured right arm. Having arrows in place would prevent quite a number of accidents from happening. 😔😔
R u serious? Why should we have arrows just for you when we have not needed to have arrows forever? Think you just need to be a better driver and have known the rules. I wouldn't go around complaining about missing a train and saying the train should have come a few minutes later. You needa accept responsibility for your own mistakes lmao
This is surely one of the confusing thing when i started driving 9 years ago. Even after years of driving - sometimes you just forgot that when you get green, you have to giveaway to incoming, those to turn left and the pedestrian. It gets easier with practice, good thing I have one like that near where I live, thus I do it probably hundreds of times.
In my country (not Australia), they teach us exactly how you describe it in your video, so I was seeing so many people not doing it (95%) in Brisbane, I thought the Australian rules were different! So why do you think so many people aren't doing this correctly? I suppose they mix up this rule with the "do not crowd the intersection" one, or their driving instructor themselves are confused about this rule, so they have been taught wrongly.
Is it okay if one opts not to go forward when there is no arrow but there is a green light like the last scenario with the white Ute at the end of the video?
It's not because one would interupt the flow. There are sets of traffic lights without a green arrow at all, so the only option is to proceed when traffic clears from the opposite direction
At 0.55 into the video, when cars were turning right with no green arrow, should the big black van have waited behind the white line at the traffic lights and not proceeded until the silver sedan car in front of him completely cleared the intersection?
Yes, that is correct Gail. It happens all the time, but in the driving test, it would be an automatic fail. From the safety point of you, the black van driver was certain that the car in front of them was going to clear the intersection and followed close behind. Even cops wouldn't pull someone over for doing that as it was obvious that as soon as the white van came through from the opposite direction both turning cars took off at the same time. 2:32 was very much the same where the white ute driver took it and partially went through the red light. By the way, that intersection has both red light and speed camera, the red light camera didn't shoot at that time.
You would go after the last car that proceeds straight from the opposite direction. So, even if it turns red, you have a few seconds until the left and right side traffic lights turn green. Never risk beating cars from the opposite direction, wait until safe to do so. Thanks for watching!
No arrow means straight traffic is prioritized, and there are no protected signal states for cross-traffic turns. It has to do with the prevailing amount of turning traffic compared to straight traffic. It is likely for turns onto minor roads, that cross-traffic turns have to yield on green circle, while two roads of equal rank will have protected turning phases.
3:05 if you don't proceed forward in the middle after the red arrow disappears and treat the situation as a *GIVE WAY* uncontrolled intersection, you would fail with the majority of driving test assessors in Perth
Thanks for the answer. Love the channel. Very useful!
@@md4566 No worries, thanks for the feedback!
Good to know. Thank you so much !
What if the light is red but no arrow?
@urlame1447 good chance the traffic on the left hand side along with the traffic on the right hand side of the intersection will have a green light....that's maybe one possibility.
Your channel is the best TH-cam channel that teaches driving lessons to Australian drivers. Thanks for the awesome work.
Wow, thanks!
I failed my driving test at Rockingham again today for this particular reason/scenario. I tried to get the assessor to explain to me exactly what i did wrong , and what i should have done.this is my 7th time, my heart is so heavy ,as i'm not confident anymore and wonder if i'll ever pass the PDA.😥😥
I'm so sorry to hear that :( Keep at it, a lot of people are in similar boats, it's not just you!
Now im always watching your content to learn more traffic situation in Australia
@DrivingSchoolWA there is an intersection pretty much the same as this one near where i live, the corner of Hillview Terrace and Berwick Street sometimes it can be very busy
I know the one. This one is Mirrabooka Av an Ravenswood Drive near Mirrabooka DoT
That's very informative and cleared my confusion of why my instructor told me to proceed to the middle when there's green light with no arrow. Thanks mate!
You are very welcome, glad it helped!
This is pretty helpful. I'm not from AU so I'm a bit scared to do this can of turns haha! But I loved the way you showed us this video from different perspectives
I am glad it was helpful! Thanks a lot for the feedback
Amazing!!!
Thanks my friend!
Thank you! Cheers!
I have a question: suppose I am waiting near the square box at green light and looking for the clearance to turn right. Lets say it is a very busy road and the traffic signal changes to red but I haven't been able to turn right and cross the road. In this case whose priority will be the top? I suppose mine, am I correct? Or what is the rule here? Appreciate your help. Thanks
Thank you much, I come from country where there is no traffic lights, I have no problem with traffic lights with arrow but I do have problem with there light when there is no arrow
You are most welcome and thanks for sharing your experience
Hey Mate, so does that means when there is a Solid green light (not an arrow) we have to wait in middle and look out for the traffic and then go.And when theres a green arrow, we can just normally make a right turn.
Thanks!
That is correct
Hi i have my driving test soon. Is it ok to cross over your hands when steering? I find it much easier then feeding the wheel. Also is it ok to let the wheel slide In your hand to self centre in the test.
Here is the video on that topic th-cam.com/video/nhVKnHfFN48/w-d-xo.html
Thank You for the informative information
What if there is car turning left on the opposite direction with give a way sign, should i still continue proceed if i am turning right with grren no arrow?
Excellent instructions!
Glad it was helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
@DrivingSchoolWA I know exactly where that intersection is. Before moving down this way I lived in Balga mum and dad used to use it all the tine when they'd take us to school as kids occasionally, I'm not sure but I think that intersection has a camera that yellow pole near where you were standing is a camera I'm not too sure
Unbelievable how so many drivers in Victoria have no clue regarding this simple manoeuvre.
And don't get me started on roundabouts!
Same here in WA
Question: what do you do at lights without green right arrow, heavy oncoming traffic that likes to go full speed even in amber light and you got to turn right? Unfortunately, we have just too many busy intersections without a right arrow lights!
Hey mate I passed my test today in Rockingham and your videos helped heaps thanks.
Well done mate! You are most wellcome, I am glad I helped. Thanks for the feedback!
Cheers
Traffic lights with no green arrow, or just showing blank, is dangerous. I am four days past from a T-bone accident that I accidentally caused, without due consideration of giving way to oncoming traffic from the opposite direction. I still haven't emotionally recovered from the trauma. Such traffic lights with no green arrow present shouldn't even exist!!! I am deeply disappointed and scarred for life from the incident 😡. Now I temporarily lost confidence in driving thanks to these kinds of traffic lights.
I hate this traffic lights too.I made the same mistake but luckily the opposite car stopped and didn't cause accident.
Horrible, I got confused by the same lights and was involved in a fatal car crash with fractured right arm. Having arrows in place would prevent quite a number of accidents from happening. 😔😔
R u serious? Why should we have arrows just for you when we have not needed to have arrows forever? Think you just need to be a better driver and have known the rules. I wouldn't go around complaining about missing a train and saying the train should have come a few minutes later. You needa accept responsibility for your own mistakes lmao
This is surely one of the confusing thing when i started driving 9 years ago. Even after years of driving - sometimes you just forgot that when you get green, you have to giveaway to incoming, those to turn left and the pedestrian. It gets easier with practice, good thing I have one like that near where I live, thus I do it probably hundreds of times.
in the center of road there is a square shape on road .
if this shape is on road it reminds of no green arrow signal here ?
In my country (not Australia), they teach us exactly how you describe it in your video, so I was seeing so many people not doing it (95%) in Brisbane, I thought the Australian rules were different! So why do you think so many people aren't doing this correctly? I suppose they mix up this rule with the "do not crowd the intersection" one, or their driving instructor themselves are confused about this rule, so they have been taught wrongly.
A question, can we proceed if the arrow vanishes and the main signal is red ofc if its safe ?
I learned all of the stuff in one day because these traffic lights are now interesting
Is it okay if one opts not to go forward when there is no arrow but there is a green light like the last scenario with the white Ute at the end of the video?
It's not because one would interupt the flow. There are sets of traffic lights without a green arrow at all, so the only option is to proceed when traffic clears from the opposite direction
Can we right-turn with a green light when the arrow is red in this situation?
No, you can't
At 0.55 into the video, when cars were turning right with no green arrow, should the big black van have waited behind the white line at the traffic lights and not proceeded until the silver sedan car in front of him completely cleared the intersection?
Yes, that is correct Gail. It happens all the time, but in the driving test, it would be an automatic fail. From the safety point of you, the black van driver was certain that the car in front of them was going to clear the intersection and followed close behind. Even cops wouldn't pull someone over for doing that as it was obvious that as soon as the white van came through from the opposite direction both turning cars took off at the same time. 2:32 was very much the same where the white ute driver took it and partially went through the red light. By the way, that intersection has both red light and speed camera, the red light camera didn't shoot at that time.
3:26 that car with trailer finally moves forward with the green arrow rather than just proceed moving forward at 3:05
What if we don't get a chance to cross and the light turns red?
You would go after the last car that proceeds straight from the opposite direction. So, even if it turns red, you have a few seconds until the left and right side traffic lights turn green. Never risk beating cars from the opposite direction, wait until safe to do so. Thanks for watching!
@@DrivingSchoolWA Thanks for the answer. Love your channel. Very useful!
@@md4566 You are most welcome. Thank you!
what about a badly lit road
why no arrow ?
for better flow of traffic
No arrow means straight traffic is prioritized, and there are no protected signal states for cross-traffic turns. It has to do with the prevailing amount of turning traffic compared to straight traffic. It is likely for turns onto minor roads, that cross-traffic turns have to yield on green circle, while two roads of equal rank will have protected turning phases.
The car with the trailer should have stopped on orange
What sort of an accent is that... Where are you originally from.
What do you mean? This is a common Australian accent!
I'm guessing this th-cam.com/video/L6FXa7Ny4s4/w-d-xo.html is something to do with this right turn traffic lights.
Yes, unfortunately the Didi driver didn't give way