I'm not vaccinated, but followed the way my mother used to deal with us when we started to get sick, immediatly in bed with extra blankets and fever it out. And next day better. But why was the official advice to go out and let your self be tested ? So, in stead of going in bed, one had to go to a test centre, wait in line, get tested, go home and wait till the next day for the result and then when the result was positive, one still did not know what to do. I thought the official advice was strange and am glad that my mother taught us what to do.
23 comments as I write, against thousands responding to channels full of opinion and speculation based on very little science, let alone discussed with immunologists and virologists. A sincere thank you as we all struggle to understand what is going on.,
Thank you so much these life science based podcast/youtube series. Listeninging on TWiV and Immune is big part of my weekend routine for the past few years now. Perhaps I am cynical, I think depending on rich people to voluntary to contribute their wealth for altruistic objectives, is like wishing for rainstorm in the desert; it's against nature and when it happens, just seem more like a miracle. Have a centralized government/non-profit agency to defined long term basic research goal and organize transition between funding government agency and for profit entity is probably the only feasible approach with our society today. Which means that we are always going to be studying for yesterday's crisis and hoping to be able to handle tomorrow's issue.
@electronaut9858 We really only saw a lot of deaths initially, to those who were elderly, obese or had co-morbidities. Very few in younger and healthier people. They used fear, as a force multiplier to gain widespread acceptance to injecting an experimental 'vaccine' into themselves.
Not substantiated it was a Coronavirus in the late 1800's (Russian flu), this only one hypothesis going on historical accounts. This different to the 1918 pandemic where actual viral samples were extracted, substantiating an influenza virus.
I would like a study looking at an immune boost not from infection (where lower immunity might be what lead to it, or result from resource depletion ,/ immune suppression) but from exposure not resulting in detectable infection. Perhaps using an exposure risk profile component in a population study to see it correlates with length of protection. Teachers are one group at a high exposure risk. (Edit having received initial immunity from a three dose vaccine series, or two dose in a non pandemic situation. Because vaccination including with mRNA clearly works at a population level to establish a resistant immune system. I want to see what effect regular situational exposure has on reducing the natural waning of the immune response over time without it resulting in infection.)
You are on to something and you might find one article on substack of particular interest to you. It's astounding that in an hour and a half episode not one researcher mentioned in the slightest way the major issues mRNA injections. If you read just one article of the many serious issues, you will start to see why your idea is so much more logical and safer than what these jab happy people love glorifying. Read the substack article in the Arkmed Blog titled "Welcome to Gilead" to see just one example of how unethical this field can get. It discusses the case of very important study that showed what are the dangerous consequences are for women who are injected with poorly studied mRNA so called vaccines. And what the researcher had to endure from those that wanted his study discredited.
If you are repeatedly exposed to the sars2 virus, your immune system will become stronger against it each time, because it's a natural infection, and that's how your immune system works. You have the blueprint already, your T cells are ready and equipped and will to fight illness off (in my opinion).
Your T cells are more important, they fight off attackers, they don't wane. Antibodies rise when your immunen system identifies that they are needed, then they subside, maybe not the correct scientific word, but that's what they do, they shouldn't stay elevated, that's not a good thing. So we need exposure to help keep our immune system's working.
Very interesting indeed all these comments about a June 2022 paper. I assume the whole point of this episode is that most of the information still applies!
It seemed a little unclear but from what I understood if you've had the first two vaccines and then the booster(not bivailant) plus an infection you should be okay for an undetermined amount of time?
Yes, you should be confused if you are a rational and reasonable thinker. Read the court ordered FOIA Pfizer phase 3 trials data to see what the data actually revealed, instead of what we were told it showed. Sad, but true, this show won't address this crucial data and or all the other data that has revealed so many other serious issues that make it clear to steer clear of mRNA technology until it has been thoroughly studied for at least 5 years or more.
Immune system needs to be built and developed more maximum leverage on current Canadian vaccination dosages because then we can make name for scientist again for sure long live India !
"They say that if ypu interupt it, tou're distracting all those cells..." 1) No they weren't. 2) They were speculating and they weren't even speculating in the way Vinny states. You mustn't read more than is there, some of your viewers will have the belief that this study prooved that putting vaccinations close together disturbed the naturation process in the specific way that Vinny stated - they are being misinformed. You guys can do much better than that. If you want to see a paper reviewed according to the layed down criteria take a look at Medcram - info there is straight as a die.
Thank you all for a wonderful episode. The four of you are an awesome team and I appreciate what you've taught me. Keep up the good work!
I'm not vaccinated, but followed the way my mother used to deal with us when we started to get sick, immediatly in bed with extra blankets and fever it out. And next day better.
But why was the official advice to go out and let your self be tested ?
So, in stead of going in bed, one had to go to a test centre, wait in line, get tested, go home and wait till the next day for the result and then when the result was positive, one still did not know what to do.
I thought the official advice was strange and am glad that my mother taught us what to do.
Laurier, mom's are awesome. Global Corporations and captured agencies, not so much.
@@ivermec-tin666 It was as if they wanted people to get really sick, so the vaccine would be welcomed as saviour.
Too late now but I wish you and your mom got a proper education.
My mom did the same.
23 comments as I write, against thousands responding to channels full of opinion and speculation based on very little science, let alone discussed with immunologists and virologists. A sincere thank you as we all struggle to understand what is going on.,
Natural imunity rules
Thank you so much these life science based podcast/youtube series. Listeninging on TWiV and Immune is big part of my weekend routine for the past few years now. Perhaps I am cynical, I think depending on rich people to voluntary to contribute their wealth for altruistic objectives, is like wishing for rainstorm in the desert; it's against nature and when it happens, just seem more like a miracle. Have a centralized government/non-profit agency to defined long term basic research goal and organize transition between funding government agency and for profit entity is probably the only feasible approach with our society today. Which means that we are always going to be studying for yesterday's crisis and hoping to be able to handle tomorrow's issue.
As a complete layperson, if hybrid immunity is so great, why are vast numbers getting reinfected again and again?
but they are bot dying
@electronaut9858 We really only saw a lot of deaths initially, to those who were elderly, obese or had co-morbidities. Very few in younger and healthier people. They used fear, as a force multiplier to gain widespread acceptance to injecting an experimental 'vaccine' into themselves.
Fascinating show...wonderful speakers, excellent presentation.... thank you!
What about those who had the first two and one booster? Thanks for all you do.
I like the intro and endtro music. And so does my neighbors 😉
The Russian Flu 1889-1996 was a Corona-Virus Mutation CC43, yes? Thank you all for the good work 🙏🏿♥️
It could have been. But there's also distinct serum archaeology evidence that a new flu swept into the human population around that time as well
OC43
Not substantiated it was a Coronavirus in the late 1800's (Russian flu), this only one hypothesis going on historical accounts. This different to the 1918 pandemic where actual viral samples were extracted, substantiating an influenza virus.
Thank you, I arranged this typo O=C.
I would like a study looking at an immune boost not from infection (where lower immunity might be what lead to it, or result from resource depletion ,/ immune suppression) but from exposure not resulting in detectable infection.
Perhaps using an exposure risk profile component in a population study to see it correlates with length of protection.
Teachers are one group at a high exposure risk.
(Edit having received initial immunity from a three dose vaccine series, or two dose in a non pandemic situation. Because vaccination including with mRNA clearly works at a population level to establish a resistant immune system. I want to see what effect regular situational exposure has on reducing the natural waning of the immune response over time without it resulting in infection.)
You are on to something and you might find one article on substack of particular interest to you.
It's astounding that in an hour and a half episode not one researcher mentioned in the slightest way the major issues mRNA injections.
If you read just one article of the many serious issues, you will start to see why your idea is so much more logical and safer than what these jab happy people love glorifying.
Read the substack article in the Arkmed Blog titled "Welcome to Gilead" to see just one example of how unethical this field can get. It discusses the case of very important study that showed what are the dangerous consequences are for women who are injected with poorly studied mRNA so called vaccines. And what the researcher had to endure from those that wanted his study discredited.
If you are repeatedly exposed to the sars2 virus, your immune system will become stronger against it each time, because it's a natural infection, and that's how your immune system works. You have the blueprint already, your T cells are ready and equipped and will to fight illness off (in my opinion).
Your T cells are more important, they fight off attackers, they don't wane. Antibodies rise when your immunen system identifies that they are needed, then they subside, maybe not the correct scientific word, but that's what they do, they shouldn't stay elevated, that's not a good thing. So we need exposure to help keep our immune system's working.
What helps a resistant immune system is isolation. We should only isolate sick people, not healthy people.
@@janephillips6031 that certainly works well with viruses were symptoms appear well before people become infectious.
Great episode. Love from Wales 🏴
How do the IgA foks fall with these antibodies in this context .
Very interesting indeed all these comments about a June 2022 paper. I assume the whole point of this episode is that most of the information still applies!
It seemed a little unclear but from what I understood if you've had the first two vaccines and then the booster(not bivailant) plus an infection you should be okay for an undetermined amount of time?
Yes, you should be confused if you are a rational and reasonable thinker. Read the court ordered FOIA Pfizer phase 3 trials data to see what the data actually revealed, instead of what we were told it showed.
Sad, but true, this show won't address this crucial data and or all the other data that has revealed so many other serious issues that make it clear to steer clear of mRNA technology until it has been thoroughly studied for at least 5 years or more.
Remember you only produce antibodies for the wuhan spike, which has been extinct for a couple of years. Thats just one protein of SARS COV2.
You don’t need to take any more shots/boosters etc. If you’re that vulnerable go on a diet, exercise, get a steady dose of sun and take your vitamins.
Immune system needs to be built and developed more maximum leverage on current Canadian vaccination dosages because then we can make name for scientist again for sure long live India !
This is really huge big news now currently
14:35 ❤
The more I listen, the more I wonder why the term spike is used. I would use the term "wuhan spike" or for bivailant, wuhan+early Omicron.
Route 66 😂 Great show.
"They say that if ypu interupt it, tou're distracting all those cells..."
1) No they weren't.
2) They were speculating and they weren't even speculating in the way Vinny states.
You mustn't read more than is there, some of your viewers will have the belief that this study prooved that putting vaccinations close together disturbed the naturation process in the specific way that Vinny stated - they are being misinformed. You guys can do much better than that. If you want to see a paper reviewed according to the layed down criteria take a look at Medcram - info there is straight as a die.
31:48 ❤
R u still pushing it?🤦🏻♀️