Fun fact: it IS possible to beat Baal Avatar without Hallel Ose or Hallel Flauros ever being summoned. I have proven this. Method: party consisted of Metatron, Shiva, and Dante. I used 4 debilitates, 4 tarukajas, and 4 makakajas. MC and Shiva both focused. Next turn: Fire of Sinai, Freikugel (critical), Hassohappa, Stinger (Critical), Fire of Sinai, Freikugel (Critical), Attack. Total damage: over 13000. End fight. No Divine Will.
I particularly like the idea of calling super versions of Ose and Flauros. Leopard power! :D After watching you this crazy awesome game, I have got to land a copy now!
I have playes Persona 5 and I loved it! Even went for the Platinum trophy! HOWEVER, the more I learn of this game, the more I start to like it more than Persona 5! I haven't even played this yet!
I just finished this game for the first time yesterday (TDE), and I think this was probably one of the easiest boss fights in the game. Just have your entire party void expel, and your'e good to go. :)
Isamu and Chiaki got a little too drunk on their visions. I don't think they're really bad people, it was just the Vortex world getting to their heads.
@MasterLL After you get all 24 magatamas in the game (Which is possible once you reach "Tower of Kagutsuchi 3", right before Thor) go to a "Cathedral of Shadows" and you'll get an item which you can use at that tomb you may have noticed right next to the tower of kagutsuchi on the world map. You get teleported to a short dungeon that contains 4 bosses, and at the end you unlock the Masakados magatama, which makes the demifiend null EVERYTHING but almighty damage.
For getting Masakados: - you need all Magatama (also the one from puzzle boy in Asakusa) - when you have them, go to the Cathedral of Shadow for a scene. Then return to the last area map, on the bridge to the north-east. There is the Masakado's grave and the temple.
Thanks for the post! Wonderful quality. I've been looking for a good upload of the English version game play. I don't have the game but I recently bought and have played Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga and I wanted to learn a little more about this game.
@Bryantzerox Quote: "I have a friend who had recently beaten Nocturne on TDE. He had Dante, Daisoujou, and Ongei-Oki (I think) as his partners. He had pierce on no one, all that was done was Delititate by Ongei-Oki (Ongyo-ki), Focus/Deadly Fury by the MC, and Rebellion by Dante. The MC was level 85 and had no problem beating Lucifer, though it did take an incredibly long time" Case in point. You stand defeated.
@Gospeldude well in the end the Human ending is the best like in all SMT. I wonder if MasterLL met the requirements for that ending yet or knows what they are.
@MasterLL "Masakados" is the ultimate magatama, null all except almighty. You have to get all 24 magatama (including that stupid puzzle boy one from Asakusa) and then go to any Cathedral of Shadows to get a key item. Then you go to the "Masakado's Grave" place which is northeast of Tower of Kagutsuchi on the world map. It'll open up a new area, Bandou Shrine. If you're going to do the True Demon Ending later you'd probably be better off saving that for when you do that ending.
@snake101eyes101 you can get one in the 3rd kalpa however it doesn't have too much spells anyway i recommend the application called Heretic Mansion which shows all fusion possibilities
@Bryantzerox I know what he has. He reduces all damage by 3/4. That doesn't make him impossible. It just makes the fight really long. You CAN beat him without Pierce, it just takes 4x longer.
@UdtheImp WHAT THE - ?? HEY, NO FAIR!! No bringing in new teamates THIS late in the game!! DX One toady down... Oh sorry, was that supposed to do anything? XD There goes the second. Only she remains....
Ah, this was slightly different than the stream recording, I see. This went a bit faster, and Daisoujou got Vitality instead of Magic when he leveled up. Plus, he gave you a different item. Still, way to OWN that boss!
@skuckon thanks for the hint i just killed noah and i've been thinking ever since if that is possible My party: MC: lvl 68 phys impart Bishamon:lvl 89 healer, magic & phys dmg Vishnu:phys & magic damage and main debuffer Kali: HEAVY phys damage and debilitate If phys is out of question i use red rider and i love this team.
How do you know how to fuse what to get what you want in this game? I admit I've been spoiled by Armageddon's improvement to the fusion system, so I know exactly what skills I'm going to fuse into.
@FirestormSurtr You wanna try the final boss of the True Demon Ending without pierce? He has like a 90 or 95% resistance to everything; including almighty.
Are you gonna go for Masakados first or are you headed straight for Kagutsuchi? More for the optional bosses rather than the magatama itself, since it's just cheap if you don't intend to confront Lucifer.
One last opponent before the sun of this God forsaken place itself..... Hi Chiaki! Uh.....nice cape.... Alright then, let's - !! ......please don't say that.....though you may not see it, I still consider you to be my closest friend. I am sorry for not saving you, but we have both made our choice. I defeat you and restore the Eath.... Aw damn, straight to the second phase boss music! :O Missed! XD WHOA!! Good thing that was voided!
@Bryantzerox You should try. I am not in the mood. Besides, I think I heard some people saying that they've done that. Sure, rumors, but still. It'd take a while.
I defeated Baal Avatar without her use "Divine Will" too, the difference is: I fought with a archangel [Raphael or Gabriel], Mada, and Skadi...[I don't have sure if was this demons] The angel used Debilitate/Blight [I think was Gabriel] Mada used Debilitate/Diarahan/Tarukaja/Sukukaja, Skadi used Sukukaja/Makakaja/Wind Cutter and I used Tarukaja/Focus/Spiral Viper I really don't have sure if was it, but I know that I defeated Baal without her using Divine Will... And Skadi who made the difference
@FirestormSurtr Note that I NEVER said it was "impossible". I only stated it was a "must have". To take from your post... "The MC was level 85 and had no problem beating Lucifer, though it did take an incredibly long time" It's a must have, because without it, it would take FOREVER. I think one of the biggest issues in this conversation is your lack of contextual understanding. I'm sorry ,but your ego boost failed. You didn't defeat anyone (: I can't wait to see how you misinterpret this, too!
Chiaki seems like the worst villain in the series, even worse than Futaba's uncle, Kamoshida or Shido because she wants to kill ALL poor or ugly people!
Fun fact: it IS possible to beat Baal Avatar without Hallel Ose or Hallel Flauros ever being summoned. I have proven this. Method: party consisted of Metatron, Shiva, and Dante. I used 4 debilitates, 4 tarukajas, and 4 makakajas. MC and Shiva both focused. Next turn: Fire of Sinai, Freikugel (critical), Hassohappa, Stinger (Critical), Fire of Sinai, Freikugel (Critical), Attack. Total damage: over 13000. End fight. No Divine Will.
Hassouhappa's crit chance is just ridiculous lol. Nuke a boss with two or three Hassouhappas is possible.
I finished her off with one of my demons that turned into a fly, It did 16 damage!
Setsuna F. Seiei haha that’s awesome
I loved this game.
@@RufusKyura still in my heart.
@@RufusKyura nah jarpigs are cringe
I particularly like the idea of calling super versions of Ose and Flauros. Leopard power! :D
After watching you this crazy awesome game, I have got to land a copy now!
Friends fighting friends. So sad I tell you.
She's nothing but a magazine stealing bitch.
You have got to be kidding me. I got dekaja/dekunda/dragon eyed immediately and then every turn subesquently. I am displased.
I have playes Persona 5 and I loved it! Even went for the Platinum trophy!
HOWEVER, the more I learn of this game, the more I start to like it more than Persona 5! I haven't even played this yet!
Nobody asked.
@@youngkappakhan not cool dude
@@josheeee9139 Yeah true, Persona 5 is not cool.
Ok and
I just finished this game for the first time yesterday (TDE), and I think this was probably one of the easiest boss fights in the game. Just have your entire party void expel, and your'e good to go. :)
Hey, what happened to the YTPs man? I loved your content, didn’t know you were a fan of Nocturne.
Chiaki. You were just way too awesome.
Isamu and Chiaki got a little too drunk on their visions. I don't think they're really bad people, it was just the Vortex world getting to their heads.
@@youngkappakhan no one in smt is a bad person really they just do what they believe is right
@@FlynnMegaTensei Tayama.
@@youngkappakhan ngl i was going to edit my og comment to "the aligment reps aren't bad people" but forgot to lol
@MasterLL After you get all 24 magatamas in the game (Which is possible once you reach "Tower of Kagutsuchi 3", right before Thor) go to a "Cathedral of Shadows" and you'll get an item which you can use at that tomb you may have noticed right next to the tower of kagutsuchi on the world map. You get teleported to a short dungeon that contains 4 bosses, and at the end you unlock the Masakados magatama, which makes the demifiend null EVERYTHING but almighty damage.
For getting Masakados:
- you need all Magatama (also the one from puzzle boy in Asakusa)
- when you have them, go to the Cathedral of Shadow for a scene. Then return to the last area map, on the bridge to the north-east. There is the Masakado's grave and the temple.
Kotowari boss track is awesome, nocturne is best smt ever👍
Thanks for the post! Wonderful quality. I've been looking for a good upload of the English version game play. I don't have the game but I recently bought and have played Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga and I wanted to learn a little more about this game.
You could also do a mana drain tactic that makes Chiaki completely unable to CAST Divine Will.
You can just kill her fast.
@Bryantzerox
Quote: "I have a friend who had recently beaten Nocturne on TDE. He had Dante, Daisoujou, and Ongei-Oki (I think) as his partners. He had pierce on no one, all that was done was Delititate by Ongei-Oki (Ongyo-ki), Focus/Deadly Fury by the MC, and Rebellion by Dante. The MC was level 85 and had no problem beating Lucifer, though it did take an incredibly long time"
Case in point. You stand defeated.
DAT BASS. =F
@Gospeldude well in the end the Human ending is the best like in all SMT. I wonder if MasterLL met the requirements for that ending yet or knows what they are.
@GiantPotato Pierce is also a must have for the True Demon Ending. Can't forget that (:
@MasterLL
"Masakados" is the ultimate magatama, null all except almighty.
You have to get all 24 magatama (including that stupid puzzle boy one from Asakusa) and then go to any Cathedral of Shadows to get a key item. Then you go to the "Masakado's Grave" place which is northeast of Tower of Kagutsuchi on the world map. It'll open up a new area, Bandou Shrine.
If you're going to do the True Demon Ending later you'd probably be better off saving that for when you do that ending.
I preferred Yuko anyway :) :P
@snake101eyes101 you can get one in the 3rd kalpa however it doesn't have too much spells anyway i recommend the application called Heretic Mansion which shows all fusion possibilities
@Bryantzerox
I know what he has. He reduces all damage by 3/4. That doesn't make him impossible. It just makes the fight really long. You CAN beat him without Pierce, it just takes 4x longer.
I only used Rakukaja for the final Boss fight in the entire game cause I was way underleveled in the true demon ending
_the Arcana is the means by which all is revea-_
... Op, wrong Avatar.
@UdtheImp
WHAT THE - ??
HEY, NO FAIR!! No bringing in new teamates THIS late in the game!! DX
One toady down...
Oh sorry, was that supposed to do anything? XD
There goes the second. Only she remains....
Ah, this was slightly different than the stream recording, I see.
This went a bit faster, and Daisoujou got Vitality instead of Magic when he leveled up. Plus, he gave you a different item.
Still, way to OWN that boss!
@MasterLL
go to the bandou shrine north east of tower of kagutsuchi after getting the first 24 magatamma and getting the sword from a dark cathedral.
Chiaki was Law aligned? I thought she was chaos. Whoops.
awesome boss music
nice fight too
What's the music that plays when Baal Avatar appears?
i guess that's a late reply, but it's called "Reason Boss Battle"
It’s called Boss Appearance.
@GTV2005 Focus = Nocturne's version of Power Charge
@skuckon thanks for the hint i just killed noah and i've been thinking ever since if that is possible
My party:
MC: lvl 68 phys impart
Bishamon:lvl 89 healer, magic & phys dmg
Vishnu:phys & magic damage and main debuffer
Kali: HEAVY phys damage and debilitate
If phys is out of question i use red rider and i love this team.
I hate this boss, i kept having the misfortune of my entire party turning into flies
How do you know how to fuse what to get what you want in this game? I admit I've been spoiled by Armageddon's improvement to the fusion system, so I know exactly what skills I'm going to fuse into.
Sir Laughsalot
"how to fuse what to get what you want"
I can't comprehend
It selects the skills randomly. Go back and forth in the fusion menu until you get the thing you need
@MasterLL It's a Magatama. You need the other 24 to get it.
@FirestormSurtr You wanna try the final boss of the True Demon Ending without pierce? He has like a 90 or 95% resistance to everything; including almighty.
Are you gonna go for Masakados first or are you headed straight for Kagutsuchi? More for the optional bosses rather than the magatama itself, since it's just cheap if you don't intend to confront Lucifer.
One last opponent before the sun of this God forsaken place itself.....
Hi Chiaki! Uh.....nice cape....
Alright then, let's - !!
......please don't say that.....though you may not see it, I still consider you to be my closest friend. I am sorry for not saving you, but we have both made our choice. I defeat you and restore the Eath....
Aw damn, straight to the second phase boss music! :O
Missed! XD
WHOA!! Good thing that was voided!
0:10 epic intro theme
back to where we started huh?
@Bryantzerox
You should try. I am not in the mood. Besides, I think I heard some people saying that they've done that. Sure, rumors, but still. It'd take a while.
I defeated Baal Avatar without her use "Divine Will" too, the difference is:
I fought with a archangel [Raphael or Gabriel], Mada, and Skadi...[I don't have sure if was this demons]
The angel used Debilitate/Blight [I think was Gabriel] Mada used Debilitate/Diarahan/Tarukaja/Sukukaja, Skadi used Sukukaja/Makakaja/Wind Cutter and I used Tarukaja/Focus/Spiral Viper
I really don't have sure if was it, but I know that I defeated Baal without her using Divine Will... And Skadi who made the difference
what is the name of the song that plays in the organ when you meet the boss?
Conception i think
Jonathan Torreno a year late but it's boss appearance
@FirestormSurtr Okay then. Would you like to upload a video doing it? (: I'll watch all 7 or 8 parts!
Sure, it is "possible" to do it, but who would?
@Bryantzerox
It's not a must have but it's very nice.
NO I AM NOT READY STOP ASKING!!!
i thought Baal Avatar was huge, but i guess never mind
@dzsidu can you tell me about this heretic mansion please?
is this the the remake of the directors cut?
@MugenYomi: If you mean the version with raidou in it then no it's not
You've got to let us know when you stream the final boss.
@DragonFist2500 About 45 or so
@FirestormSurtr
Note that I NEVER said it was "impossible". I only stated it was a "must have".
To take from your post...
"The MC was level 85 and had no problem beating Lucifer, though it did take an incredibly long time"
It's a must have, because without it, it would take FOREVER.
I think one of the biggest issues in this conversation is your lack of contextual understanding.
I'm sorry ,but your ego boost failed. You didn't defeat anyone (:
I can't wait to see how you misinterpret this, too!
I miss this game.
Is focus and power charge related somehow?
ive known u in the PLI forum
How many bosses are in this game?
Almost 60, I think
@Gospeldude Lol.
are u indonesian?
how do you make black frost does anybody know
Chiaki seems like the worst villain in the series, even worse than Futaba's uncle, Kamoshida or Shido because she wants to kill ALL poor or ugly people!
Hikawa is so much worse.
That it isn’t even funny.