The Best, Coolest Color Job In Marvel Comics 70+ Year History?! Maybe!
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I would say that the coloring job for Barry Windsor Smith's X-Men #205 is up there. One of the best colored X - Men covers of all time too. I remember buying that one at the 7- Eleven as a kid.
BWS's coloring on MACHINE MAN is excellent as well.
BWS seems to both do great color work (Weapon X) and inspire it (Glynis Oliver over his pencils and inks in Uncanny X-Men 198).
Barry Windsor-Smith colouring his own work in the "Weapon-X" run in Marvel Comics Presents. The original printing, not the garish trade collection.
The color in Moore's Swamp Thing run are really great
I love the Hollingsworth colours on David Aja’s Hawkeye books. Not bombastic like this, but understated and really slick...
ain’t no channel pumping out content anywhere near as a+ as you fellas. it’s making me fall in love with comix all over again!
This one's tough to beat, but Iron Man 232 with the BWS pencils and colors might be close
BWS' Marvel days have some of my favorite artwork. I didn't care for all of the stories, but I just love his style. There's something both 'heavy' and weighty about his art but also sketchy and almost like industrial design sketchy about it. I love it!
Just be sure never to do your eyes the utter disfavor of seeing the recent computer-colored redo of it.
My favorite color job is the six issue Marshall Rogers Doctor Strange run in the 80's from #48 - #53, really wild use of different printing methods to contrast the physical world from the spirit dimension
That's a really wonderful run, and that whole era is rife with beautiful art.There's also some nice color surprint work on the backup story in Dr. Strange #46, Mike Golden coloring his own pencils with P. Craig Russell inks.
Just found you guys this last week. Amazing info and stories. I tried but failed to get anyone from Dark Horse and DC and Marvel to like my work ...so I just drew for myself. I studied all kinds of comics for tips and burned through Wizard how to draw segments. Loved the Wally Wood show even though some of his work reminded me immediately of John Severin. Love the old late eightys and early ninetys comics. Kirby and Finger were both screwed over. Unfortunately I'm a comic addict so I sold my last collection and got out of it in the mid 1990's. I live in a dead zone comic wise, but I've found some lately and have passed on piles of well loved "readers" to a local kid who like comics. I was even asked to illustrate a children's book for a friend.
I just began rereading this story yesterday, so I’m very happy to see you guys break it down, and while I was mainly focused on Romita Jr.’s artwork, Rosas did a hell of a job with his color choices and use of white. As good as it gets.
i love the 25% red and yellow ironman, it has a real mobius kind of look
The Daredevil issue mentioned in the video is the Fall of the Mutants tie-in, #252.
I don't know if it's better, but the 80's Machine Man miniseries (Trimpe/BWS) was a revelation in comic book coloring.
Everything about this comic is punching above it's place on the magazine rack. What a gorgeous piece of art. I don't know if the story matches the art, but I like to enjoy visuals if they're good. I mean, Tron is by no means a great movie, but it's so gorgeous to look at.
Great Job guys! IRON MAN was in my pull box when this issue came out, I rebember this fondly. Its great to compare the coloring from Living Lasers other app in IM #153 & #211. LL pulled some great performances from artists back in the 80's
you guys already made note of it before, but Kirby's 2001 A Space Odyssey is definitely up there for me as far as GOAT coloring jobs go (Marvel or otherwise!)
That really is a great looking comic! Personally, Swamp Thing Annual 2 leaps to mind when I think about impactful coloring. The Annual was one of the earlier Flexigraphic efforts, and a lot of colorists were struggling with the over-saturation that lead to a lot of gaudy books. Being in hell was a great environment that really gave the colorist a chance to put to use the new tool kit in an innovative way. Just like you call out Iron Man being near the end of non-computer color, ST Annual 2 was part of the first wave of books in the final chapter of traditional separations.
This series was definitely formative for me. I recently found some old childhood drawings copying JRJR’s linework. So happy to watch you guys decode this even further! Thank you!
Also, if I recall, the first issue of this storyline has the same coloring style, where Iron Man is trapped in some space station wreckage, and at points delicately using his repulser rays (god this is so geeky, haha!) to free himself. The coloring really sells the emptiness and hopelessness Stark feels at points in this issue. Plus loads of perfectly horrid 80’s fashion!
Listening to you guys talk about comics is the best
What sells the coloring for me is the blacks are mostly printing over the other colors, so the blacks are selling the color effects too. And then black becomes the star on the middle panel of page 20 with just black on newsprint with the rays and on Iron Man's shoulders. Who ever cut the colors also contributed where it counts for sure. Love the print nerd videos guys!
Awesome video, really love your detailed study of a comic etc, a fun video for the afternoon. Also, great comic as well !!
That was a masterclass. Thank you. Got eBay on hold waiting for the Kayfabers' suggestions.
I don't get it, you guys already covered The Toddmeister's Spide-Man #4!
The only contenders I could think of that look better than this is comics that have fully painted panels like Slaine the horned god, Blacksad, or Kingdom Come but as far as traditional non-glossy paper comic coloring this definitely is GOAT material
I remember you guys talking about this issue a while back and I immediately had to go look it up. Absolutely tremendous coloring in here. Something about it feels so complex yet the contrasting colors prove so simple. Definitely an example of the story lending itself to some great experimentation with the art.
I always enjoyed in Denny O'Neil & Neal Adams' GL/GA when the lines are green instead of black inside glowing areas. It makes the light look so much brighter.
love the jr jr content !!!
Remember the Frank Miller All Star Batman and Robin issue where B&R paint a room yellow to defeat the absurdity of Green Lantern? You don’t remember that? Yeah...me neither.
I bought this off the newsstands in the uk and have been reading my copy along with you guys. It’s powerful stuff. The mushroom-cloud-shaped expulsion of energy on page 29 is god-like! Thanks for the great nostalgic content fellas!
Incredible! How have I never seen this before? Thank you!
I would agree this Iron Man is awsome. We got some brief flashes of inspired color work the Micronaughts series and few titles of the Epic line like "Swords of the Corsairs", "Alien Legion" and "Starstruck" (?).
I would argue the worst of Marvel's inking was in "the New Mutants" around issue 25 with the Legion story arc. The bullpen kept praising the art, but all the readers got was page sfter page of black ink (check the quarter bins for the original printings). Perhaps you should make a what-not-to-do video comparing those books to "Sandman"
This looks really nice ^^
I would recommend the teen titans issues about trigon from Marv Wolfman and George Perez, they achieved a very psychedelic look when the characters where in azarath
Best comic Channel on TH-cam! I should comment more often^^
More color based vids plsssss
Amazing episode guys!
JRJR is my favorite artist in western comics, thanks a lot for covering this and let me know about it.
Before I see what this is all about....betting....Barry Windsor Smith! He was the only pre photoshop colors I ever noticed.
The Kayfabe effect took place.
JR JR is one of the most dynamic artists of all time, like a modern Kirby. These colors and inks are the perfect compliment to his style
This is prob out of range for the discussion, but my favorite coloring job of all time is the color that was added to the Epic run of Katsuhiro Otomo's AKIRA.
awesome, ganna keep my eyes out for this issue, cool to see amazing art that can be attainable for the price of a few bucks
BWS' Machine Man, Weapon X, Iron-man are some nice colors. Also His recoloring of Conan's Red Nails tabloid. I'm also a BIG fan of Marvels' late 60's and early 70's color especially the Roy Thomas and Gene Colan Doctor Strange.
It might not be as good as this issue, but the Jae Lee run of Namor, colored by Glynis Oliver, always stood out to me as a prime example of coloring.
Hey guys, I went out an ordered the whole Armor Wars II set on ebay, and realized something. John Romita Jr went from a pretty "basic" but very good style on Amazing Spider-Man that runs from 230 ish to 295, give for take. Less than a year later, 1989 he's on Daredevil with Ann Nocenti, and then in 1990, hitting Iron Man with Byrne, and his style has changed almost completely. He doesn't look anything at all like his previous iterations. Same guy, but you're talking a change like the Beatles 1963 and Beatles 1968.
Any idea how/why/when this change occured? It's much better, just curious what happened, and how it happened so quickly. Not many artists make that kind of change so quickly, and so dramatically, after being a monthly artist for the better part of a decade. I just find it fascinating, particularly in his case.
My suggestions to look at for color are Lynn Valley’s colors on Daredevil 191 and issue 4 of the Wolverine Miniseries, as well as Michael Golden’s cover for Nam 13 as well as Issue 40 of What If? I know you guys already covered both of Varley’s comics in previous episodes but it is an interesting exercise to try and pick out why her colors stand out from the previous three wolverine issues, for instance. Golden’s cover to Nam is just hot pink orange blue and white. It really shouldn’t work but it’s so striking. And the What If issue has a terrific Golden cover but Butch Guice’s interiors are vastly underrated and there’s lots of fun color holds. My favorite work by that guy.
Man, that was great!
Id like to see you guys review Matt Hollingsworth’s colors on Batman White Knight with Sean Murphy. His textures and palettes are so pleasing to the eye.
There's an early new teen Titans that's done a similar way. It's just glorious
Romita Jr's art changed drastically from his early 80s stuff, obviously originally heavily influenced by his dad, to his later/current, blocky, Simonson-by-way-of-Miller style. Although I'm not a huge JR JR fan, his art, particularly in this issue, would look as good in b&w as does with those great colors.
In a future episode consider taking a look at the art in the Byrne/Gordon FF run from the 80s (at and around the time She-Hulk replaced the Thing). Everyone remembers the Byrne/Austin X-Men but Gordon's inks brought a level of detail to Byrne's stuff that wasn't as evident before. It certainly beat the heck out of Byrne's muddy solo issues. The Byrne/Gordon stint was one of the first teamings that turned me on how much an inker could distinguish himself from the penciler,
Very cool, guys! Iron Man by JRjr channeled Kirby ,definitely he’s cracking it out of the park! Monthly mayhem output also DD with amazing Al Williamson inks! Iron Man 256 by Bob Layton,JRjr,Harry Candelario,&colors by Paul Becton! Shell head trapped in a space station that has decaying orbit and all kinds of other things to deal with! One &done tale with color works to set mood in space station etc! Not as flashy as Living Laser lightshow but subtle! Definitely not cookie cutter hack job! Love this book and the one you guys reviewed! Thanks again!
This is one of the first comics I ever read. had no idea what I was reading but loved every page.
I didn't give JRJ enough credit when I was a kid.
So good!
Fantastic exercise in minimalist coloring.
"rank and file...shovelware comics"
Byrne always preaches the "power of contrasts" and credits his understanding of that to Steve Ditko.
Looks like JRJR reused that splash page punch at 11:20 in Hearts of Darkness, the Ghost Rider/Wolverine/Punisher joint
MAGNIFICENT break down!!!!! thank you Gentlemen, PEACE family of the inkwell, and God bless.
Bought a copy for $2 at a con today!
This is a great, easy to find issue.
This is great. Classic JRJR.
Gorgeous…hands down one of the best color jobs, and only ‘one of’ cuz I simply haven’t read them ALL to be fair.
one of the few comics I had when I was a kid
I have never read this issue but now badly want a copy.
Great channel loved the fukitor and Tim vigil Faust.
Have you guys done Ranxerox, I've looked for it on your channel but I can't find it?
wow!
A lot of knowledge being dropped in the comics, too. Thanks kayfabers, I love me a good coloring job since I’m mostly partial to black and white comics.
more, more, MORE!!!
but make sure yoy guys get some rest, you're already prolific!
Colour theory is a weakness of mine, this is a great example to learn from!
Brought their ”A” game!
This was the first issue of Iron Man I bought, I was sad that JRjr didn't return.
This is extra funny because the black and white phone books look soooooo good. Plus manga (Just my natural preference over 20 years...)...American comics color is all not great.
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the more JRJR the better
White is definitely lost in the era of digital coloring. It's like the colorists can stop themselves.
I can't stand modern coloring in comics, it is often really heavy and very literal. I love comic coloring like this...