I had a similar instance as a child hiking to a hidden fishing spot with my dad. We started hearing gunshots from a distance and could tell it was more than one firearm being discharged at a time. My father told me to kneel behind a large tree and be quiet. We listened for about 30 seconds and there was no gunfire. He gathered up our packs and his fishing pole and told me we were about to head home. As he was gathering our gear we could hear more shots again, this time they seemed louder as if the shooters were closer to our position than before. He grabbed me and pushed me completely down on the ground basically crouching over top of me and fired about 10 rounds in the air and shouted into the woods something along the lines of cease fire or hold fire and alerted that he and his son were at the receiving end of their shots. He looked at me with a smile and told me that it was ok and that it's probably some silly guys target shooting but I could see the anxiety in his face regardless. But the shots started up again and this time I could hear them actually coming close and about 20 meters or a little less of my dad's immediate left dirt kicked up. After a moment of sitting together behind cover he told me we were going to have to take a really long hike and that he was sorry. I was about 9 or 10 but I started to realize the gravity of the situation and although I wasnt actually worried about my mortality I was worried at my father's change in demeanor. At the point the dirt kicked up my father pulled me up by my back pack straps pointed to the burm by the stream and said run as fast as you can behind that hill. He swung around the tree and using it as cover he fired the rest of his magazine. This time into the woods in the apparent direction of the shooters whilst screaming out a string of profanity lol. As an adult and father now myself i can relate to his fear and frustration. Long story short we had to take a 6 hour hike in a loop out of the woods and through a cornfield to get back to my dad's ranchero. This was before cellphones so no way to call for help in the case of an injury. We did not talk at all through the entirety of the hike and occasionally my dad would pass me a piece of jerky or give me a handful of peanuts. When we got back to the car my father unloaded our guns put them behind the bench seat and we drove off. As we were driving home my dad spoke to me like an adult and confided in me that he had been very afraid of me being shot and He explained to me that we would never be going back to that fishing spot again. We also made a pinky promise to not mention it to my mom lol of course. I was armed with a ruger 10/22 but I highly doubt I would have reacted appropriately had we encountered a threat face to face. My father on the other hand was armed with a od green polymer ak-47 and several magazines in his pack and pockets. He is a very cool minded individual and does not often react in emotion. The silent fury he represented that day left no doubt in my mind that he was willing to kill for me. I love ya Dad.
Very crazy story right there, but your dad did an amazing job. Protected you, didn't freak out, used cover, tried to give those idiots a chance to stop shooting. Very good job.
I drive like a lunatic but in roaDs I know completely and when I know that there's almost no chance that anybody else is there. My dad often yells at me and tell me that I don't know how to drive and that I don't even know how to drive like a lunatic so to just stop. Whenever we drive up to somebody that doesn't know how to follow the rules of the road he'll often yell or get mad at me for not being defensive (I try to just pass those drivers and just as soon not worry about them). I've been telling him lately that I need to drive crazier than them so that they fear my driving and that they start driving defensively. In my mind once they realize that somebody stupider than them exist that can just as easily kill them, then maybe they'll be more careful. This is what I think when I hear your story. But I get that as a parent, the instinct to protect their children comes ahead of trying to maybe teach some other idiots a lesson.
Being that you were an "out of towner" and they're probably locals. They were probably mad you were in their favorite hunting spot, and went to shoot in your general direction to scare you off. Some people are just a special kind of stupid.
Yes, that was my assumption as well. Locals sometimes like to claim some level of ownership on certain public land just because they are local and use it frequently. It's dumb and dangerous. Anyone who does this is potentially the party that is outgunned.
My suspicion is that the intent wasn't to hit anyone, it was to harass them to get them to leave and not come back. Once he mentioned the small town folks vs. big city folks that was my immediate thought.
Yeah, very rural areas they just don't want strangers there for a host of reasons or no reason at all. Also, they generally know how to shoot and there is a difference between someone intentionally missing and trying to hit the target.
@Bob Bobbertson I think it would be more like a teenager to think everyone thinks like you think. I absolutely believe some people are unconcerned with whether or not their actions are good or evil.
My friend's dad grew up in the 1930s in a Utah mining town that was served by a railroad spur. Once a day, every day, the train would roll into town. He and his brothers would go out after school and pepper the locomotive with .22 fire. After a couple of weeks of that the train engineer was drinking with the boys' dad in a local bar. A couple beers later the engineer got up to leave, then turned and said, "By the way, tell your boys to stop shooting at me after school. I hate sitting on the floor all the way into town." Legend has it you can still hear the crack of the leather belt across 10 year old butts on a summer evening.
The funniest part of the story is how unconcerned the engineer was that he let this happen over and over again until he finally said something seemingly in passing.
@Jen farmer Either way if I'm getting shot at I'd still be scared shitless the first time it happens to me, but if I start catching on to what's happening (i.e. a bunch of ruffians being bored) then I'm not so inclined to give as many shits as I initially did
Literally what I was thinking. Not that there is 'nothing to be done', just a different way of handling these things. I made a similar post to that effect. And awesome story.
If he was calm about it I would probably feel some what safe considering he has military experience and taught firearm training. That being said there is something comedic about a calm guy staying composed saying " hey bud we're taking fire" lol
Calm doesnt mean safe it just means hes familiar with it. Taking fire is never safe unless I've got a camp fire and you're taking some because I said its cool
Only Paul would be out there telling a story about the time he took fire, getting more mad about the trash on the ground, and calling them "inexperienced shooters."
My friends uncle almost blew my head off with a shotgun once when I was a teenager, we went shooting with him and his buddies, a damn low flying bird went right past us and my buddy's uncle immediately turned around with his shotgun and let out a shot, the problem is that he turned towards me, I was standing like 4 feet behind him, thank god I had quick reflexes because as soon as he started turning I realized what he was trying to do and I hit the floor a split second before he shot, went right over my head, I couldn't hear anything the rest of the day.... never went shooting with them again.
I was born and raised in Michigan. Lived there until I went in the Navy at 19. Every year there were a handful of stories in the local papers about city slickers that would come out to the country to go hunting and shoot themselves or something else that they weren't supposed to shoot. One guy lost basically everything he ever owned after he pulled into a DNR check station and they found out he'd shot an elk thinking it was a deer. Elk tags are very limited in Michigan and this guy didn't have one. They fined the living shit out of this guy. He ended up selling most of everything he owned paying the fines. There are a lot of people that don't belong in the woods.
I am 60 six years old now . This happened when I was 16. I was out bird hunting in a farmer's field that I had permission to Hunt in. Going around the outside of the field hunting dove if I remember right. When all of a sudden bullets came whizzing by my head. I started shooting when I was six years old. I knew it a 22 sounded like. There was a ditch about 1 meter behind me I jumped in the ditch shut three rounds up in the air from the shotgun. That way they knew I was there started out of the ditch and bullets whizzed by me again. Jumped back in the ditch let off three more rounds. Bullets started hitting the ditch above my head. An old veteran told me when I was about 15 years old always carry 00 buck every time I picked up the shotgun no matter what I was hunting. I had about a dozen rounds of 00 buck. Crawled down the ditch like any Infantry man wood on his belly. Popped up about 5 maters away from where they were shooting at me. Let three rounds of 00 buck go over their heads did not try to shoot them. Came back down the ditch re loaded and crawled down the ditch about another 9 to 13 meters and just waited. Whoever was shooting at me was gone. I'm glad I met the old timer that told me to keep of 00 buck with me. There are all kinds of stupid fools in the world.
my father went on a hunting trip a few months ago, he was sat on a treestand about 6 or 7 meters off the ground. at that point around noon he heard about 5 bullets wizz past him, wasn't a crack, more of a tzzt noise as per his description. so they were probably far away. I doubt this was intentional, but It blows my mind that people will go out and shoot at nothing in particular and worse, a trajectory that is upwards.
A friend of mine's parents had their house shot 3-4 times by some morons shooting a .308 at steel targets with no backstop (obviously their marksmanship was about as good as their critical thinking skills). Those rounds make it through 3 sets of drywall and an exterior wall after going god knows how far through the trees UPHILL. They were that stupid to be shooting uphill... Anyway cops tracked them down somehow and slapped them with some pretty serious charges since they managed to shoot an occupied dwelling. Still gives me pause because they only live maybe a mile as the crow flies from my parents' house which sits up on a hill ready to catch cletus' bullets. It's not hard to build a proper backstop and not endanger your neighbors, we're lucky to live outside city limits so we can legally shoot on our land but morons like that are bound to ruin it as the area gets suburbanized.
Like the idiots firing up in the air on the 4th of July. We had a lady killed this year at a party in her yard and they never even heard shots. Came straight down and into the top of her head.
@@leahwhiteley5164 I really doubt that happened. If a bullet is traveling straight down, and it wasn’t fired from an airplane, then that means it had to slow down in order to start falling back down again. A falling bullet will not have the velocity necessary to kill someone. If it came in at an angle, then yes but if you shoot a gun straight up into the air the bullets are not going to fall back down and kill someone.
@@assjuice8223 I'm not trying to be a jerk but you are incorrect. You can either Google it or I believe the Mythbusters did a show on this subject. The lady I spoke about is not the first person I've heard of that was killed on a holiday. New Years Eve we've had people killed also. Please research and you will find the falling velocity of a bullet to be enough to penetrate the skull or body tissue.
few years ago me and my family were at our regular camping spot by a pond in the woods. we noticed how filthy it was and filled 2 garbage bags with litter, then fish and wildlife services came and fined us $300 for having atv's. really cant win
Ben Cox actually Fuktard... It's more like Libtard Retarded Geniuses...! Just like the ones that left MOUNTAINS of trash recently "protesting" for the environment.. U know the Keystone Pipeline crowd out at the Standing Rock Indian Reservation, ND...? What's that u say..? U mean ur lying Libtard media neglected to tell you about that... Hummmm interesting..
I find the intro regarding the litter to be extremely frustrating, and I agree with Paul Harrell entirely. I come from a state with essentially no public land, and I would kill for the opportunity to go out and shoot/hike/camp with no prior arrangements with a landowner. Where I currently live, it's almost impossible to shoot regularly, with the only options being costly and limited ranges, or knowing someone who will let you use their property to shoot on. People in Western states have no idea how lucky they are to be able to use public land, don't mess it up by leaving garbage behind.
I had a very similar experience, except that we did see the vehicle and saw it again at a gas station later that day. We drove up and talked to the people and I could tell that they were very nice folks. As we chatted, I worked around to asking and they happily told us exactly where and when they had been shooting. When I told them our side, they were horrified. I didn't get angry, as I could see that they genuinely felt very bad about it and apologized profusely. Like you, I was sure they had to have seen us. Just goes to show: Never underestimate the ability of stupidity and incompetence to imitate evil.
I'm curious just how much more interesting the short version is. I imagine there's a drunken abridged version which ends right after Joe finally takes cover and always gets everyone laughing at the bar.
That’s frustrating, Paul. Homicidal assholes! A psychiatrist I work with at a prison told me a story of interviewing an inmate once who was in prison for hunting hunters. For years, he’d go out in deer season in camouflage with his high powered, scoped rifle and hide out hunting the hunters in orange. Serial killer, is what he was. Anyway, for years police chalked it up to “hunting accidents”. One year, he killed a man and his widow hit the roof about it and wouldn’t let it go. She kept badgering him through the newspapers calling him a coward, etc. Finally, he got so mad about it, he wrote her a reply in the newspaper. The cops used that to track him down. He’s doing a life sentence now.
@@MrWeenuk21 lol yes he is. u think the guy killing people gave a shit about the ethics of hunting? he's a piece of shit whose actions momentarily intersected with your retarded world view
This is a great reminder to think before we act. Situational awareness is extremely important. A friend told me a story about 25 years ago he was 25 feet up in a tree stand while bow hunting on public hunting ground. Somebody for no apparent reason with a 22 was shooting at him from about 150 yards away. Only a handful of shots were fired and he could hear a few whiz past him. During that time he thought a bug bit him on the leg. He found out a few minutes later he was bleeding and it ended up being a bullet hole. There are some crazy people out there.
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Maybe you had some retard mistaking him for an animal
Totally agree about the littering,. There is a spot me and friends go to up on a mountain in the desert and it use to be just TRASHED with litter, furniture, blown up tv's, brass and shot gun shells as deep as your ankles in a couple spots. Over the course of a couple weeks we went up there a couple hours a day and took at least one truck bed full of shit down and to the dump. When we finally got it cleaned up and looking nice, i made up a sign saying to please respect the land and be responsible shooters by cleaning up brass and trash. People still left shit but to this day, others now help and pick up other peoples trash if there's any left behind. Something i ended up being really proud of.
That's what I'm trying to do with a really nice spot where I go shooting. It really beautiful, opens up to miles of mountains and is totally littered with shotgun shells and all kinds of other crap. I had the idea of placing a garbage bin for people to use but I thought some assholes would just shoot up the bins and my job would be wasted.
It’s not 35th ave and baselines old quarry is it? I saw a sign like that out here I mean still messy as all piss but I can see it being much worse than it is now.
Back in the late 60 s early 70 s we used to go to the dump to shoot rats. They were cruelly glad to have us there and only asked whatever else we shot up was junk and it was in the revetment not making a big mess. Great fun as rats are very smart but there were always plenty . Imagine doing that today the cops would be all over you
I could listen to you tell a story about paint drying. And leaving shells/casings after shooting is equivalent to alcoholics leaving beer cans/bottles behind, so thank you for raising awareness of picking up after ourselves (and I can quit shooting anytime I want to). Great video.
I used to live in the middle of nowhere. One time as a teen, I was with my dad who was driving down a remote back road to a job site. Suddenly our back window exploded. We chalked it up to a piece of gravel being kicked up at a strange angle and hitting it, but later when we were cleaning out the glass we found a hole in the trim around the window, and taking the trim off we found the remains of a bullet. The area we were in had a lot of residences (farms, mostly) and roads, so target shooting or hunting were absolutely not allowed, especially pointing in the direction of a roadway. I don't know if we were shot at, but it sure seems weird that the only vehicle on a long stretch of road that would have been visible from a huge distance in every direction got hit in a place where shooting isnt allowed.
One of my favorite things as a child was going to the gun range with dad to collect all the awesome brass, and sometimes if we were the only ones there, we'd go out to the berms with hand shovels and a coffee tin and collect all the lead. (Probably 95% of the club members were black powder shooters only). My dad melted down all the lead and made his own roundballs for YEARS with all the lead we brought back. Fun times!
My theory: The chuckleheads in the pickup truck were locals headed out to their favorite shooting spot. They found outsiders already set up there. At least one was an idiot and decided to "intimidate" the interlopers. The shots were intentionally off target.
That's my guess as well. I have to think that I would have considered laying down suppressive fire that was also deliberately off-target, but enough to get them to pack up and leave. I no longer go out into the woods without a centerfire rifle because of exactly this sort of idiot.
My guess is about the same, except they were trying to zero and the burm was too short and some fliers went over. I'd have to get an account from Paul as to how many audible shots were fired versus how many shots seemed to be going overhead. Either way, these guys were negligent and manslaughter (or worse if it was intentional) could have occurred.
Imagine spending your whole life becoming an expert in firearms and self-defense only to get taken out by some random punk with a .22 lobbing shots at you a quarter mile away.
I was out gopher shooting with my buddies once, there were 6 of us, and 3 guns. All .22 caliber, 2 bolt actions and a semi auto. We were in a loose line, above a nearby road, and firing across the hill. A large, loud, lifted truck went ripping by revving the engine with 3 people in the box, firing their rifles. The first shot passed between me and the guy next to me, at head height. Of 6 of us, 3 reacted, and 3 more or less stared dumbly. I hit the ground, and would have returned fire, had i a weapon. On guy ran forward yelling profanity, and one other guy ran away. Of the remaining three, one more or less stood in place panicking, and tow seemed stunned. About a dozen more shots were fired at us from approximately 50-250 meters away as the truck drove away at medium speed, popping the clutch to revv the engine. To this day i have no idea who or why. I am just glad i didn't have a gun at the moment, because there's a chance i would have killed or maimed someone, and probably went to jail.
would have been a textbook case of self-defense. too bad you didn't shoot them because they probably continued to shoot at and possibly kill other innocent people
@@jackliu7326 Understand, in court its not what you know its what you can prove. Proving it was 100% justified could have been very hard to do in court. Lastly, You don't shoot unless you know for sure exactly what you are shooting. He could have shot a an unarmed 13 yr old that was with the group and would be in prison right now for having done so. In that situation its best to take cover unless you are under immediate threat. Given the threat was so far away a prosecutor would make the argument they were not under immediate threat and the kids in the truck didn't know they were there. Know your situation.
Paul, we've been bugging you to tell the "long story" for quite a while and, while I didn't expect to hear any cool, sensational secrets left out of the "short version", I really appreciate you taking time to reenact the long version for the sole purpose of (and please don't take this the wrong way) "more of Paul's storytelling is ALWAYS better than less". You are a very undervalued instructor and entertainer. I learn something from every video and from everything you test. For example, I appreciate you telling us what went through your mind with both shooting back and why you didn't contact local law enforcement. I know that you have a private life to protect but the fact of the matter is this: your career choices have provided you with so many more personal experiences (stories) than most of your viewers will ever experience even once in a lifetime. So when I hear, "let me share a personal anecdote", I know that I just hit paydirt in both my personal education and my entertainment value for the day. I feel fairly confident that I speak for a large group of your viewers when I inform you that, without compromising your personal life, your life experiences definitely enrich the lives of us Joe Schmo subscribers. Please, don't feel like "storytelling" is EVER a burden on is. Blowing up things is fun to watch but hearing real life stories in the world of home defense, military, law enforcement, and staying yoked at... 40..., is equally entertaining and educational. And thanks for clarifying that your viewers won't find you in old porn videos. haha. So...this is just one subscriber's reaction to your video today. Well done!
My Dad is a Canadian army combat veteran retired but about 4 years after he retired he was out hunting deer and somebody starts shooting full size rifle rounds at him and they are landing a couple of inches too a foot beside him and he grabs the orange hunting sweater he is wearing and starts swinging it in the air and the shooting stops but he never figured out who was shooting at him.
I had something like this happen once in Steamboat Springs, Colorado on Buffalo Pass. My friend and I were just hiking and looking for a spot to camp and two guys with rifles starting blasting the trees were walking through, presumably to flush us out thinking we were elk (I honestly think there are more irresponsible idiots out there hunting than there are Paul Harrells, having listened to the horrendous stories of personal misconduct from fellow hunters). That idea is challenging to hold, though, as they continued to shoot even after we leaped out of the trees and jumped up and down yelling to stop shooting. These days I don't go anywhere without a firearm. You truly never know who would be happy to kill you over something trivial (like daring to hike in a common hiking area near town, apparently.).
You are probably 100% correct on this. I don't think the shooters were trying to kill anybody but just get them out of the area. If they were out to kill, They would have drove in and fired at close range.
Something similar happened to me almost a decade ago. Got back from my first deployment and was told I was deploying again in 4mos, just enough time to change commands and get my gear. I drove my new used tacoma home, and for old times sake, decided to take the truck out for some "REAL" offroading on some roads I knew. Before I left, I grabbed my New Vaquero in .45lc, because you NEVER go alone unarmed into the hills. I got to my favorite spot, which to my dismay, had a road a lot closer to it than I remember from 3 years before. I parked the truck in a empty plot and I started walking the ditches and little canyons for an hour or so and had almost made it back to the truck when I heard that pop pop pop and saw a few puffs in the ground above me about 20-30 feet ahead. Realizing what it was, I drew my pistol and fired 3 or 4 into the same spot while shouting. I heard some voices and foot steps, and a few guys appeared above me on the canyon rim. We exchanged pleasantries, they helped my climb out of the canyon, gave me a beer, and I continued on my way. Lesson learned, I don't walk the canyons anymore.
Underappreciated youtuber right here, great content,very informative, straight to the point while still having some dialogue that doesn't put me to sleep.
Same thing happened to my wife and I, except we were on my families land and some people renting a cabin next to my families land were shooting at us on our four wheeler. I heard the cracking and whizzing and literally the tweety bird moment moment while bullets were landing in front of us. I grabbed my AR and emptied a 40 round mag in their direction while yelling. Called the police and nothing happened. I regret doing that but in the heat of the moment I thought we would be shot because a small ATV does not provide much cover. Spoke with the land owner that rented his cabin and he now refuses to rent it out anymore. My wife will still not go back to my families land for a range day. Some people just lack common sense to not shoot at what you can not see.
Sadly and regrettably I've been on the other end of a situation involving negligent target shooting (with me being the negligent party). My friends and I went to a the local dumpsite/"outdoor range" and set up old cans and trash to shoot at. We shot until our mags were empty and when we started reloading we heard someone screaming at us to stop shooting. We scanned the area and saw a guy about 150 yards or more behind our targets taking cover behind his tipped over snowmobile. We told him we had ceased firing and he hopped on his snowmobile and sped off. Luckily he didn't get hit by any of our bullets. We had no clue that there were any snowmobile trails in that area. This happened in Interior Alaska, so anything could be considered a snowmobile trail. It may be possible the chowderheads that disappeared behind the hill used the hill as a backstop for target shooting and the stray rounds were going above your head. Just a thought.
That's why having a backstop is in my mind a necessity, shooting off into an open field or dense trees may seem safe but in reality that's creating a large danger zone you can't reliably monitor. I like to know the exact patch of material that's stopping my bullets and make damn sure that's where they all end up, should not be shooting over your backstop or you're doing something wrong.
At the DNR shooting range at Kanawha State Forest, there is a trail that runs almost parallel to the range. At the bottom, there is a "no entry" sign, but I've seen people come down that trail. It's a scary thought that somebody would be walking around in the woods down range. And imagine being a hiker: hearing countless gunshots from dozens of shooters, hearing that it's the direction you're going, knowing you're getting closer, and NOT turning around!
@@cymond Unfortunately I've come across a fair few hikers that play music loud enough that you'll hear them long before you'll see them. I imagine they wont be hearing much of anything around them carrying on like that.
@@freddy67h I left the Kanawha Valley in 2011, so that was before the widespread proliferation of Bluetooth speakers, and nobody was carrying around an old school boombox, either.
I would still heavily recommend reporting it if something like this happens, even if you have absolutely zero proof, if the cops are doing their job then it would be put into record and the next times someone else also reports similar incidents then they can be sure that it's not a one off occurence. Plus if you're being specifically targeted and another incident occurs when you HAVE proof then not reporting it the first time hurts your credibility.
With the propensity of cops to investigate and gather data on people, espcially who has arms and what kind they have, no thanks. I'll bear my own burdens and deal with situations as God gives me wisdom.
@@libertypastor1307 That's the dumbest thing I've read all week. What kind of morons hide their perfectly legal and constitutional activity like firearm ownership? If Paul cared about a cop knowing he has guns he wouldn't shoot competitively, go hunting, have a TH-cam channel about shooting...
@@SuicideVan Who said anything about hiding anything? I've made 11 Citizen's arrests in my lifetime, and the only problems I have had were with the police after they show up and want to collect their data for their reports. One guy got away because the police wanted info from me for their records. That was my first one. I never let that happen again. Now I give them orders when I ask for their help, which I try not to need. You do things your way, I'll do things my way. Obviously, we have different beliefs. I could think your way is moronic, too, but I'll be a little more respectful.
@@libertypastor1307 if you've made that many "citizen's arrests" then you are more delusional than we all first thought. Citizens arrest isn't even a real thing ya dork.
This is why I pack out some of the other people's garbage, though I curse under my breath a little bit. I wonder if a lot of this is the 'BLM land is my land' mentality, which is totally true, but it doesn't mean we're not sharing it with others. They should just buy some private property, then they can leave their trash. Generally out in these 'types' of areas (I'm in Utah), acreage is ridiculously inexpensive, because it is basically worthless. I'd still cringe to think there is a property with a bunch of garbage, but at least they'd be crapping in their own backyard instead of ours.
Oregon invented the bottle deposit in the US. It does not stop people littering with targets and shell casings, unless you are a reloader.... He is in Oregon and the other State is likely Washington. Both have that type of terrain.
Well, since he killed a man who tried to run him and his wife down with a truck while they were camping, trust that he knows what it's like to have been charged with manslaughter and go before a grand jury as an out-of-towner.
@@johnsmith-dy8yb I read it. Interesting, very interesting. Considering the drawing of him mutton chops, I had to do a double take, but it most certianly was him.
My Dad and I took fire down in the Texas Hill Country. I was 14 years old . He told me to take cover. I did but kept my eye on where we were taking fire from. He put 6 rounds of 30/30 into a rock at 100 yards right by the guy and he ran. The motive was to discourage us from hunting down there. Quite the experience at 14.
Steel casings rust away in a year or so. Brass casings turn dark and mix with the dirt and become harmless, particularly pistol ones. But shotgun shells leave ugly plastic messes that take a decade to biodegrade. Just plain litter when left behind.
One of the areas where i bow hunt there are literally 100's of old 12ga shells all over the edge of the fields near the wood-line from bird hunters. some of them are from YEARS ago and still not degraded fully, it is a shame.
UK shooter here, this is exactly why I use compressed paper cartridges for my shotgun. I pick all my empties up anyway, but on the odd occasion I miss or lose one I can be sure it won't be around for long.
40 or so years ago a friend and I were deer hunting in the northern part of Minnesota. It was rifle season. He and I both had rifles and were both wearing bright orange head to toe clothing. It was early morning and at least ten below zero, perhaps colder. The problem with that is you don't get to sneak around in the snow as each foot makes a crunch sound in the snow. As he and I were walking, we heard a rifle shot in the distance. We thought that's going to scatter deer in the area. Soon after another shot followed and this one went overhead and tge cracking sound of low hanging branches was heard. Both of us were former military and we both crouched down low. We looked at each other and thought, that couldn't have been intentional? Two more shots went overhead. We thought we heard distant voices. My partner yelled out, of course with a few expletives mingled in, with a warning. One more shot came our way. My partner raised up and shot in the general direction, aiming high. We heard no more shots. It's possible, especially with poorly trained people, to squeeze off a round without consideration of what may be its backstop. Several rounds in your direction indicate malice, especially after a verbal warning. BTW, dense woods found it the location we were, don't provide a clear path to shoot 500 plus meters away. That's why the 30/30 is so popular among hunters familiar with the geography.
Some Hmong piece of shit killed a bunch of American hunters in northern Wisconsin awhile back. I think they caught him in their tree stand or something and he just started blasting them.
I'm kind of surprised that one guy didn't realize it. IME bullets ricocheting and going by you sounds almost exactly like the movies, just not as loud. I'm not sure how you could confuse it for something else.
That's that whole problem of "train like you fight" - as cringy as it sounds. You can sit on the range punching holes in paper from your conceal carry holster all day. But until you have a PERSON coming at you in genuine surprise, you don't have any idea how you'll react. There's a video floating around the tubes here I can't seem to find again. A guy goes onto an indoor range with a CCW holster testing a draw/shoot on a paper target that SOMEONE ELSE would move at him. You can see just in his body movements how uncomfortable of a position this puts him in. If I find it I hope I can get back here and repost it, interesting watch. Found it! th-cam.com/video/SSUS-b1Ftq0/w-d-xo.html
@@uncreativename9936 The catch here is : The bullets Paul encountered , if from a .22 LR, were likely well into the subsonic velocity range by 300m ... so there's no supersonic "Snap" like when you're in the target butts, or encountering live High-powered fire. it would be a funny low whirr, and a bit of a hiss... impacting the ground, should make more of a proper buzzing ricochet, albeit faint, because they're only .22's... the first few rounds might likely have been completely missed by the average person. If they were .223 or more powerful, it's likely the loud snap would have caused almost anyone's adrenaline to kick-in and send them scrambling for cover.
"ArmA 3" taught me, it has superb sound simulation. The bullets flying by, hitting things, sound like whip lashes. And it is kinda scary if you are fired at from multiple directions in an area with loud echo noises. Especially scary if the shooters are too far away and the whip lashes are louder than the shots themselves. You just don't know where to run, where to hide. Yeah fuk the EU, greetings from Germany.
Eric Redbear Hell, I was in the military (no combat) and its 50/50 that I would’ve been Joe. I think, and this goes for most of us, it likely depends on the situation, how distracted you are, your mood etc. Let’s hope we never have to find out how we’d react to some idiot hillbillies takin’ pot shots at us! 😂
@@DocLois2010 That's kinda how I felt too. I might not be in military, but I've played enough damn video games to recognize the whiz of a bullet. I'd be hitting the ground or finding cover asap. Paul wouldn't have even to have to tell me to.
I'd have stood there cluelessly like Joe, but if someone as dry and matter of fact as Paul said "get down, we're taking fire" I like to think I'd be smart enough to take it seriously.
@@Not_Ciel and which game would that be? The actual sound of incoming bullets being fired towards your position is something very few, if any video games ever get right.
People just don't understand bullets travel. I love your vids your very to the point I think u give yourself lil to much grief on your dialog you do just fine. I'm a fan and have learned alot from your vids thank you for taking the time to do these cause just like me there is always something to be learned by them. Keep up the good work.
There are always gangs of small town vigilantes who absolutely hate city slickers hunting in what they believe is their personal territory. I have seen it here in Canada when deer hunting a few hours up north. There were large groups of hunters who would block all the entrances into crown land with their trucks. You could tell by the number of crew cab trucks and trailers that they had their entire clan in that bush. We hunted on about 500 acres of private land but were warned by the owner never to cross the border fences, any shot quarry that crossed the border was to be forgotten and belonged to the neighbor. Yes I believe they shot at you intentionally as a deterrent for hunting there but I think their fire was meant to draw yours in return. In which case the local sheriff whom they all know and may even be related to would throw the book at you. You were very smart for not shooting back in this case.
Thanks When we arrived to the above mentioned town ( about 3.5 hrs drive north) for the first time we were immediately followed and stopped by a cop. He asked where we were going and then said oh yes I know him but when I asked why I was stopped he just replied because he had never seen my vehicle before. When we got to our hunting grounds the owner was waiting at the gates to greet us and told us the cop had given him the scoop on how many men were coming with descriptions. Not a bad thing in my opinion but my point is that in these situations you are always out numbered and out classed. Going to the local supermarket, diner or bar was a real treat as well. Everyone stared at us like we just came from outer space. The local bar was the most amusing, If you like to see home grown, deliverance type back woods missing link creeps just come deer or moose hunting here. Long story I know but it was necessary. Its much longer but this was as short as I could make it
well it would be very different story if some round struck the truck, at that moment you would be well within your rights to return fire and no connections to local PD would make that any better when you have a piece of hard evidence to the threat of injury/death lodged in your vehicle
First, the long version is really interesting because it illustrates three very important points. 1. It only takes a few irresponsible clowns to give all hunters and plinkers a bad reputation. 2. Don't be a litterbug. 3. The most important point: engage your mind before you engage your weapon. If you shoot anyone, even in self-defense, you will have to be able to satisfy law enforcement that you were justified in doing so. How hard or easy it is to do this will vary from one jurisdiction to another. Now let's say Paul and his buddies had returned fire and inflicted casualties, and the other guys buggered off. The incident is reported to the police or county sheriff or whatever as would surely be the case in the event of casualties. The sheriff rounds everyone up, but the aggressors all claim it was Paul and his buddies who opened fire first. What happens then? I'll tell you what happens: you end up needing a lawyer. The takeaway: be responsible, leave no trash behind, and NEVER shoot at anyone unless your life depends on it.
It was not only very interesting, it was extremely informative about understanding one’s situation on several levels. Thank you so much. Also, I imagined that events like this happen but this will be helpful in planning for and dealing with one, should it occur. May you be healthy, happy, safe, and have all you need.
I had a similar thing happen when I was 17 . Me and a buddy were out plinking with a Glenfield tube fed .22 , a pump 12 gauge and a single shot 12 gauge. We were in a huge pit dug out for road build were a pond had formed. We were probably a good 40 feet below the entrance which was a 100 or so yard away. Some guys drove up in the entrance and stopped. We saw them but didn't pay much attention because we were shooting at snake by then . Next thing I know I here a whistle and something hit the water in fron of me and my friend. It only took a few before we realized they were shooting at us. We had nothing to hide behind except big old equipment tires so that's we we went. I had the .22 in my hand and my friend had the pump but we really didn't want to shoot back and cause a mini war. We were at a big disadvantage from the get go so we stayed behind the tires as best we could . This lasted only 15-20 minutes but it seemed a lot longer at the time. We never found out who it was or even what rifle they were shooting but it wasn't a good feeling at all. I don't know anyone who would want to shoot another person and even if they were just playing around it was a dangerous way to play . Always be aware of your surroundings and available cover if needed. You don't know who else may be shooting in the SA,e area as you !
The litter problem is really getting bad. Here we have public land where people shoot regularly, it looks like a dump....... Simple it you have room to bring it , you have room to haul it out. Others are not your mother and we tire of you types giving us a bad name.
12 years ago in Kodiak, Alaska they shut down a similar area near the Coast Guard base. There were televisions, washing machines, engine blocks, and more broken glass than one would ever think possible. A few hundred yards down the road, the chowderheads started doing the same thing. You just cant get away from them, they're everywhere. Always have been, it's just the population is getting denser now and you're forced to be aware of their existence more often.
When I first started going out shooting with a friend at some, not so local, rock quarries, I thought it was thoughtful of the others to leave their interesting targets out there for others to enjoy. I thought, "if this is a popular shooting location, than why not just let it be that so people will have an unofficial range to shoot at, and not litter up some other locations? Then we went back to one of those places and found the signs all over stating `No Shooting', and such, then another, and another. In those trips, I think we contributed a few one gallon water jugs, and a few plastic pop bottles. Other than that, just the brass we spent. No we didn't clean that up because there appeared to be no point. The place was covered in thousands of cases, and mostly shotgun shells. Anyway, after these places were shut down, I realized that this was why they were shut down. Not everyone was on board with these locations being treated like a dump. Also, having such a place to shoot at didn't prevent people from turning another spot into a dump. This practice, that I initially thought of as practical and litter preventive, was just giving the entire shooting community a bad image. It makes us appear thoughtless, lazy, sloppy, which leads to dangerous, and especially environmentally unconscious. Now while I hate all the overzealous and paranoid regs at local gun ranges, I understand that they need to have rules that are based on an assumption of worst case scenario of shooting idiots. So I get why the rules have to be very uptight. I also hate to shoot on these ranges, because they can be a real pain in the a$$. I much prefer to have a spot far away from everyone where we can just do our thing, safely, then leave it cleaner than we found it when we are done, but that requires a discipline that apparently is still plenty uncommon today. Even if I owned the property I was shooting on, I'd still police up my brass, and anything else inorganic.
Interesting; Three years ago, down near Quartzsite Arizona my wife and I were in a wash searching for rocks to populate our yard in South Dakota. We saw a group of bikers go by on the road that leads to where we had our motor home parked, then within a few minutes bullets flew overhead, since we were down in the wash they were well over our heads, but still a bit worry some. Being a retired police officer, and former soldier, I was quite familiar with the sounds, but never really felt in danger since we were rather low in that wash area. When we drove back to our rig, we discovered the targets of the bikers. A falling rock sign was peppered with bullets, apparently one of the bikers was not as good a shot as the rest as his bullets continued past where we were rock hounding.
Like a few of the others I read in the comments, I to had a similar experience while hiking in the Sierra Nevada Mtns in 2017. I was around 6 miles into a hike resting under a tree and eating lunch and some1 atop the ridgeline tried to pick me off, I could not place the direction of fire for about 10 seconds or maybe 5 or 6 shots but I saw the rounds hitting the trees and ground around me. The caliber sounded large and not at all like a .22 but that's all I could tell, My brother has always told me I move very fast and I think that saved me along with the Lord and adrenaline. I did the ducking boogie outa there and Literally never went back.
Years ago i was scraping loose paint off the house, on an extension ladder and started taking fire from a pellet rifle. The pellets hit the stucco but not me. I scampered down the ladder, walked down the street and at the 4 way corner I saw beer cans sitting on the side yard fence gate. I called out and heard a voice answer, my neighbors 2 sons had decided to do some target practice that morning. On that ladder the first thing that went through my mind " what the hell is that noise", still on the ladder looking around , trying to figure out what was going on, instead of getting off the ladder, duh. The mind just can't grasp it, its so out of the ordinary.
I still think it would have been a good idea to inform the local law enforcement. Let's say these goons come by once or twice a month for one of these drive by's, they're eventually going to kill someone. If each of these failed attempts are followed up with a police report, measures could be taken to prevent this from happening.
This is exactly correct. Eventually (if the locals don't do anything) there will be enough to justify the county or state coming in to investigate. Seen it.
@@TheAmGoth Their reply should there EVER be an instance of them getting caught, "We were just getting target practice, we did not even know that a .22 would travel that far." Followed by them getting released and sent home having been told not to do that again.
xarlock's how to channel - there’s at least a chance that after that, they actually don’t do it again since they couldn’t tell the same story twice. Maybe they don’t go to jail, but the problem could be stopped and the child they would have hit the following month gets to live.
@@n386cp4 Most times, they would have been shooting at targets on the other side of that hill he described. People are idiots and make exceptional errors in judgement every day. BUT assuming that they were firing at you deliberately with malice and forethought, shoot back, and shoot to kill. Now this next part is against the law, but as Paul points out, it's a small town rural area, and the local cops may not be on your side. I would dispose of the bodies and the truck. Lots of ways to do it, just make sure you take and destroy any cell phones and any memory card they might have.
"6 of them, probably all armed, and then the three of us, and the only one of us that's armed is me." So in other words those 6 guys were hopelessly outmatched.
Thanks for sharing your story Paul! I had someone shooting at me just last year in a similar remote location. I had come back from trail riding on my dirtbike and thankfully already finished loading up before it happened. I could hear bullets zooming by over head and to the side of me and see the bark flying off the trees for the bullets impacting around me. Fortunately I was able to get in my vehicle, stay low and get down the road to cover quickly and leave the area. I didn't have any evidence either but I did let the sheriff know so it would be on record and he could at least go clear the area and scare off the shooters. Crazy world we live in.
Depending on the distance...shots overhead could just have been over-compensated bullet drop shots...anything coming close to me I take as someone tryin to very well kill me and....obviously you cant spray into a treeline...but id return fire if I saw one of them pointing a weapon...and then id follow them when they fled. Should they fire AT me again id obviously return fire with intent to kill... Albeit that would make for a very tricky case of self defense. But people like that will kill someone if they haven't already...and basically are fine with doing it. F that
@LooksForLogos that's what im saying. And I know...many will likely think I wouldnt be so decisive in the heat of the moment and I'm tough behind a keyboard (which id understandable). But, I don't know if I could keep cool enough not to fire back...this occurrence really would have infuriated me. But that's a weakness...
@LooksForLogos right, we're talking about death if those bullets were a foot lower and the guns they came from centimeters lowers or less. Just not something to play around with and only the biggest assholes would consider a joke.
@LooksForLogos with the fact he mentioned he was in a city/town/county he was not familiar with and was an outsider...Paul likely made the right choice. What scumbags tho-people like that are mascots for the ant-gun lobby.
Could just be an asshole property owner who thinks it's a fair way to let people know he doesn't want them walking across his property line, too. Plenty of people out in the middle of nowhere who think you can fire at people legally if they're walking on your property (even unknowingly).
Just found your channel by happen stance and the first video I saw had the short version. Thanks for providing the long version, it is an interesting story.
Paul, You guys were lucky that none of you nor your vehicle were hit by the local goon platoon during their good old boy style drive by! I think I'd have filed a report with the local police anyway, for S&G's if nothing else. If a few people report strange happenings and then someone does wind up with a 22lr wound or damage to their vehicle, the local LE might have a description to start with. One report like yours might well end up in the back of the filing cabinet but when two or three more get added, the police or sherrif deputy reading them has a better chance of figuring out who's the idiot zinging 22's at people. On the other hand though - if it ain't on paper, it didn't happen!
I can think of at least one other explanation, though it likely doesn't account for low number of rounds fired. The truck stopped behind a "low hill." Paul says he couldn't see it. So, if that was a short (forgot the beer) target session directed at a target toward the crest of the hill and the shooters reckoned the hill was a safe back stop, then ricocheting bullets can glance and continue on their way. I've seen grooved marks in the ground from stirkes where there was no spent bullet at the far end, meaning instead of being stopped, it kept going, hopefully harmlessly. My dad did this once with a 2.5-inch lead ball from a homemade, black-powder canon. There was a 140-foot hill as a backstop - he thought. The round struck the target, the ground behind, then headed up. We tracked its passage for about 300 feet through scrub oak until we could not find any clipped debris on the ground. Never did find where it came down. Happily there were no neighbors that direction, so if it cleared the back line there was nothing to hit for miles.
Paul, your comment is underrated. People don't realize how difficult it is for police to fight crime if people are mum on reporting it. I think it partially has to do with the way people are brought up to not be part of their community and that crime is "someone else's problem" but crime tips do have a very big influence in the success of law enforcement. Seemingly minor things can be a very big part of a difficult puzzle. Theeddorian. I thought the same thing too, except Paul mentioned that they were in the boonies. Who travels all the way out only to set up an shoot for only a few minutes? I know that for me a range session lasts at least half an hour and if you are with friends, that often follows a picnic or BBQ of some sort, especially if at a long travel distance. For this reason from what Paul has said, I agree with his assessment that they were deliberately shooting at them. There are a lot of messed up people around the world who get their kicks from seeing other people suffer either physically, or just the joy of scaring them a bit. I don't know when this story takes place, but there is a possibility of those "environmental terrorists". Lunatics who think that mankind is the scourge of the "pure and inncoent world" and think especially that outdoorsmen should be eliminated (but conveniently don't have the balls to off themselves like their ideology would suggest).
The apparent "poor" fit is why I mentioned the low number of rounds fired and the possibility that something might have been forgotten. I have a story of my own from my late teens. I was rabbit hunting with my dog, hiking up a ridge line in deep, dense chaparral (about 12-14 foot high chemise and manzanita). My dog, a collie-mix was quartering back and forth in front of me. I heard a gun shot and a small bush about 15 feet in front of me keel over. I dropped flat as several more rounds were fired. My dog also dropped and bellied over to me. Being young and stupid I worked my way over to where I could see down into the ravine below. Two fellows, adults at least 30 years old, armed with revolvers were reloading. I could hear them talking. The gist was they didn't think they had "hit it," didn't know what "it" was, and didn't really care. The more I heard the more angry I was. As I said, I was rabbit hunting. I was carrying a .22 magnum rifle with a scope. I'm embarrassed to say I planted a round in the ground right between them. They started yelling about "people down here." I backed off the ridge and went down the opposite ravine headed home. I wonder how they told that story. All it really takes is "stupid."
Thanks Paul, I’ve been putting this video off for awhile. Now that I’ve watch this, I can tell you I’ve heard of many instances of this happening. One that comes to mind was I the Florida Everglades. The camping couple this happened to, didn’t live to tell their story.
Okay, two questions I've been wondering about for a while: 1.) Does Joe watch your videos, and 2.) If so, what does he think of it that every time you mention him it's to make fun of him?
Joe is the name he gives for the dumb person in his stories, whomever they are. . I would be very surprised if joe was a real person and not just every dumb person he’s encountered.
Thank you for highlighting the problem with littering. It is super problematic here in Washington state. I always end up cleaning up other people's junk when I leave a shooting spot.
I’ve been shot in the general direction of several times while working as a field geologist for a mining company. Some small claim “cramp miners” don’t much appreciate representatives of big mining outfits showing up anywhere near their claims. The first time I was kinda like Joe; it took me a couple of rounds to grok what was happening. I didn’t immediately connect the sound of the round passing overhead with the slightly delayed report of the rifle. But I caught on pretty quick. I say shot in the direction of, because if that fellow had intended to hit me, I wouldn’t be here today. I later discovered he had put a round dead center through the mining company decal on the front passenger door, just to make sure I really got the message. (That bullet went through the door, the seat, and the floor on the driver’s side rear; the body of a vehicle is not cover!) The one upside of that experience was that I did learn how fast I could drive a 4WD Suburban in reverse. 😉
Not only is your incident very similar to mine, but the terrain in your video is nearly identical to that in my incident, so I can't help but relate it here. This was on a National Grassland, a popular spot here for target shooting. As I was down range tending to my targets, I suddenly heard shots going over my head, coming from the other side of a small rise in the generally flat terrain. The shots were passing overhead close enough to scare the hell out of me and cause me to get down low. After probably not more than a dozen shots went over me and then cease, I quickly got back to my car parked at the road, where I could see to the other side of that small rise. About 150 yards down range were five guys appearing to be in their 20s standing in a cluster with long guns. The fact that they had been so dangerously shooting into the air, above what could have served them as a berm for their target shooting, had me enraged. Okay, I admit right here and now I let my anger get the best of me and compel me to confront them -- a very risky proposition any way you look at it, which I was aware of then as well as now. Nevertheless, I started walking toward them, my Ruger P97 .45ACP with nine rounds in my side holster. Strangely, while they obviously could see me approaching from quite some distance, they seemed to totally ignore me until I was right up to them, at which time I spoke up in the best "nice guy" tone I could muster while trying to suppress my anger. Four of them were holding shotguns and one a rifle. I told them I was ducking fire on the other side of the rise and asked what the hell are they doing shooting so carelessly. They were very nonchalant about it all and basically denied it and brushed it off. I knew I wasn't going to get any more than that out of these jerks, and fortunately I was at least smart enough to let it slide and bid them adieu. And I'm glad things didn't get out of hand!
Ah Paul, simple math. Guns + knuckleheads = dangerous situation. We, as firearms users must always be careful, even if the knuckleheads don't. Glad no one was injured. Here in Brooklyn we call those folks douchebags.
I really enjoy these videos. They remind me of older family members that used to take us shooting and hunting. No tactical stuff or unrealistic scenarios. You get to see actual proof of tests. Keep up the good work Mr. Harrell. Great videos.
I got shot at in Juarez. Coming out of the club at 0400 with my girlfriend and some friends, we were headed to go somewhere to eat when apparently some robbery took place down the street. There was a street sign behind me and we were huddled around that. Next thing I heard were bullets whizzing by. One went bzzzzzzzzz inches near my left ear. 2nd one farther away but hit the street sign behind us. We all dove behind some cars while the cops were shooting back. That was surreal. When a bullet whizzes right by your ears, that's a life changing experience.
I live next to a rifle range and when I was a kid, a buddy and I decided to go camping. Set up our tent on the top edge of a bluff. Made a camp fire, all was good. About an hour in, we’re watching from what must’ve been 1200ish yards away the rifle shooters do their business. It’s a 500 yard range and being 12 year olds we said, “ehh the bullets go into the back stop dude”, it was only a couple minutes in when some cheddar head with a semiauto of some sort decided to do some rapid fire and we started hearing hisses and wizzes all around us and we never packed up faster.
@@The_Ballo Local Yokels out to impress their women folks and have big bar talk, about how they ran them City slickers off ?? Seems like they have them every where, you go .
Oh shit, he has a camera man. I was under the impression that he did all the videos himself. Nonetheless Paul's great. I'm glad I found this channel. He should definitely have a TV show!
@@jumbo4billion Sure, but there is a lot of good stuff on the internet while there is no good stuff on TV, except for maybe nature documentaries, althought most of them are filled with propaganda aswell like the climate change agenda.
Wow! I had the same happen to me. Except Bigger rounds. Sitting in my Tree stand someone was at my truck firing shots off into my Truck so I thought? They were firing at me in the tree stand. Getting near dark I jumped the 10 foot and pulled my hand gun out. And waited to see if they were coming in my direction. They didn't. I put my 270 up on the lights of a truck that was moving off from my location. Sure I could have fired off my rifle at them but I'm not wanting to go to jail over a simple scare me out of the woods deal. I later told my Game and fish Officer I was buddies with about it. He said you really don't want to know what I would have done, they were very lucky it wasn't him. He would have shot them. The ones shooting in my situation had no idea just where I was? They had a general idea, I guess? There's a lot I could have hid off in and having a handgun and my rifle I felt if they really wanted to come in the woods after me for whatever dumb ass reason they would have been in a Great disadvantage. Would I have shot them? I wouldn't want to kill anyone over a deer hunting spot. You can learn a lot about yourself when faced if these situations. I remember a class I was in that was taught by a FBI guy. He told us it's a lot better up on the Stand telling why you killed some one than the other way around.
Interesting. I wonder if they weren't trying to scare you off from something. That is, they were shooting high on purpose. Drug cache comes to mind. Or maybe just their favorite hunting spot. That or they were just drunken/high teenage/early 20's assholes who thought they were being funny.
As an early 20’s firearm owner I can attest to this. While I was brought up with a lot of gun safety training. (My mom’s best friend is a national from holster speed shooting champ) I have run across many many people in my age group who only see the fun side of going out shooting. They go out to have fun, and in their either immaturity or ignorance of firearms forget that these things are extremely deadly and dangerous weapons. I can’t count the number of times I’ve been on some outback shooting property and had a firearm unintentionally pointed in my direction, rather than down range because the owner just wasn’t thinking about it. I do my best to educate these sorts of people as I was. Little rant though, the worst kind of people are the ones who unintentionally point a gun at me, I get upset and try and re-educate them on gun handling and the dangers associated with mishandling a firearm...then they ignore me and blame me for overreacting and say it’s no big deal....like shut up. Yes it is a big deal. Don’t point guns at me, asshole.
"Its not very interesting" this guy could tell me a story of how his paint dried and I'd be like woah that's sick af
Same
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Yes. It was a good story. Maybe "not very interesting" to Paul means he didn't nail any of the bad guys.
For real tho
Based on what you said you know he could be an amazing school teacher
I had a similar instance as a child hiking to a hidden fishing spot with my dad. We started hearing gunshots from a distance and could tell it was more than one firearm being discharged at a time. My father told me to kneel behind a large tree and be quiet. We listened for about 30 seconds and there was no gunfire. He gathered up our packs and his fishing pole and told me we were about to head home. As he was gathering our gear we could hear more shots again, this time they seemed louder as if the shooters were closer to our position than before. He grabbed me and pushed me completely down on the ground basically crouching over top of me and fired about 10 rounds in the air and shouted into the woods something along the lines of cease fire or hold fire and alerted that he and his son were at the receiving end of their shots. He looked at me with a smile and told me that it was ok and that it's probably some silly guys target shooting but I could see the anxiety in his face regardless. But the shots started up again and this time I could hear them actually coming close and about 20 meters or a little less of my dad's immediate left dirt kicked up. After a moment of sitting together behind cover he told me we were going to have to take a really long hike and that he was sorry. I was about 9 or 10 but I started to realize the gravity of the situation and although I wasnt actually worried about my mortality I was worried at my father's change in demeanor. At the point the dirt kicked up my father pulled me up by my back pack straps pointed to the burm by the stream and said run as fast as you can behind that hill. He swung around the tree and using it as cover he fired the rest of his magazine. This time into the woods in the apparent direction of the shooters whilst screaming out a string of profanity lol. As an adult and father now myself i can relate to his fear and frustration. Long story short we had to take a 6 hour hike in a loop out of the woods and through a cornfield to get back to my dad's ranchero. This was before cellphones so no way to call for help in the case of an injury. We did not talk at all through the entirety of the hike and occasionally my dad would pass me a piece of jerky or give me a handful of peanuts. When we got back to the car my father unloaded our guns put them behind the bench seat and we drove off. As we were driving home my dad spoke to me like an adult and confided in me that he had been very afraid of me being shot and He explained to me that we would never be going back to that fishing spot again. We also made a pinky promise to not mention it to my mom lol of course. I was armed with a ruger 10/22 but I highly doubt I would have reacted appropriately had we encountered a threat face to face. My father on the other hand was armed with a od green polymer ak-47 and several magazines in his pack and pockets. He is a very cool minded individual and does not often react in emotion. The silent fury he represented that day left no doubt in my mind that he was willing to kill for me. I love ya Dad.
Very crazy story right there, but your dad did an amazing job. Protected you, didn't freak out, used cover, tried to give those idiots a chance to stop shooting. Very good job.
Sounds like my dad, cool, calm and collected under pressure.
I drive like a lunatic but in roaDs I know completely and when I know that there's almost no chance that anybody else is there. My dad often yells at me and tell me that I don't know how to drive and that I don't even know how to drive like a lunatic so to just stop. Whenever we drive up to somebody that doesn't know how to follow the rules of the road he'll often yell or get mad at me for not being defensive (I try to just pass those drivers and just as soon not worry about them). I've been telling him lately that I need to drive crazier than them so that they fear my driving and that they start driving defensively.
In my mind once they realize that somebody stupider than them exist that can just as easily kill them, then maybe they'll be more careful. This is what I think when I hear your story. But I get that as a parent, the instinct to protect their children comes ahead of trying to maybe teach some other idiots a lesson.
@j m Given the amount of shooting that seems to happen in that area who wouldnt lol
@j m fishing for bears
Being that you were an "out of towner" and they're probably locals. They were probably mad you were in their favorite hunting spot, and went to shoot in your general direction to scare you off. Some people are just a special kind of stupid.
Yes, that was my assumption as well. Locals sometimes like to claim some level of ownership on certain public land just because they are local and use it frequently. It's dumb and dangerous. Anyone who does this is potentially the party that is outgunned.
Good way to get killed. Hey hillbillies...out of towners are well armed too.
Agreed that this or some variation sounds likely. Even simpler, they may just have thought it was funny to harass the non-locals.
@@double-eagle-dave DAMN More than one sentence, Please.
@@double-eagle-dave had a stroke trying to read that, jesus
My suspicion is that the intent wasn't to hit anyone, it was to harass them to get them to leave and not come back. Once he mentioned the small town folks vs. big city folks that was my immediate thought.
I had the same line of thought.
@@T4nkcommander This analysis makes the most sense. Intentionally attempting murder makes so much less sense in comparison.
Yeah, very rural areas they just don't want strangers there for a host of reasons or no reason at all. Also, they generally know how to shoot and there is a difference between someone intentionally missing and trying to hit the target.
@Bob Bobbertson Most anywhere you go in the world people are territorial. Regardless if it is their land, it's their land...
@Bob Bobbertson I think it would be more like a teenager to think everyone thinks like you think. I absolutely believe some people are unconcerned with whether or not their actions are good or evil.
My friend's dad grew up in the 1930s in a Utah mining town that was served by a railroad spur. Once a day, every day, the train would roll into town. He and his brothers would go out after school and pepper the locomotive with .22 fire. After a couple of weeks of that the train engineer was drinking with the boys' dad in a local bar. A couple beers later the engineer got up to leave, then turned and said, "By the way, tell your boys to stop shooting at me after school. I hate sitting on the floor all the way into town." Legend has it you can still hear the crack of the leather belt across 10 year old butts on a summer evening.
i wish i could be a 10 yo walking around with a gun
The funniest part of the story is how unconcerned the engineer was that he let this happen over and over again until he finally said something seemingly in passing.
@@AgitpropPsyop first time you shit your pants, second time you start realising their aim sucks, third time you just don't give a shit
@Jen farmer Either way if I'm getting shot at I'd still be scared shitless the first time it happens to me, but if I start catching on to what's happening (i.e. a bunch of ruffians being bored) then I'm not so inclined to give as many shits as I initially did
Literally what I was thinking. Not that there is 'nothing to be done', just a different way of handling these things. I made a similar post to that effect. And awesome story.
Imagine being with paul as he CALMLY says "hey bud were taking fire" 😂😂
If he was calm about it I would probably feel some what safe considering he has military experience and taught firearm training. That being said there is something comedic about a calm guy staying composed saying " hey bud we're taking fire" lol
Calm doesnt mean safe it just means hes familiar with it. Taking fire is never safe unless I've got a camp fire and you're taking some because I said its cool
@@grahamlopez6202 +1 reading comprehension!
I forgot to mention taking fire is safe if you're strange and that's what you call advil.
We're*
Only Paul would be out there telling a story about the time he took fire, getting more mad about the trash on the ground, and calling them "inexperienced shooters."
If Paul was trying to hit someone he wouldn't have missed.
Low key burn in case they ever watch this video
It’s because the story is made up.
@@colin-campbell how the fuck would you know that dummy go ride your fucking short bus outta here and fuck off
@@colin-campbell is it?
My friends uncle almost blew my head off with a shotgun once when I was a teenager, we went shooting with him and his buddies, a damn low flying bird went right past us and my buddy's uncle immediately turned around with his shotgun and let out a shot, the problem is that he turned towards me, I was standing like 4 feet behind him, thank god I had quick reflexes because as soon as he started turning I realized what he was trying to do and I hit the floor a split second before he shot, went right over my head, I couldn't hear anything the rest of the day.... never went shooting with them again.
Nice friends uncle you've got there.
What an idiot
I was born and raised in Michigan. Lived there until I went in the Navy at 19. Every year there were a handful of stories in the local papers about city slickers that would come out to the country to go hunting and shoot themselves or something else that they weren't supposed to shoot. One guy lost basically everything he ever owned after he pulled into a DNR check station and they found out he'd shot an elk thinking it was a deer. Elk tags are very limited in Michigan and this guy didn't have one. They fined the living shit out of this guy. He ended up selling most of everything he owned paying the fines. There are a lot of people that don't belong in the woods.
@scars337 lol
scars337 Nah, Cheney can definitely hit his hunting buddies.
"Hey Joe. You better get down. We're taking fire."
that cracked me up i had to check the comments and see if anyone else said anything.
Its true. Staying calm doesnt mean you arent stressed or scared, but it helps you keep from panicking.
Heh - the only response I could think of to that was, "Fighter pilot much?" - that was far more cool-headed than I woulda been.
That's called shitting your pants and jumping in for a swim.
when he said that, i burst out laughing
PLOT TWIST: It was from a rival TH-cam channel.
Nah, Y****r would never use a .22, it's not manly enough for his ego.
😂😂
HEY GUYS HICKOK45 HERE
@@singami465 Hickok wouldn't've missed lol
My first suspect was the RPS guy .... then I looked at the dates. :)
I am 60 six years old now . This happened when I was 16. I was out bird hunting in a farmer's field that I had permission to Hunt in. Going around the outside of the field hunting dove if I remember right. When all of a sudden bullets came whizzing by my head. I started shooting when I was six years old. I knew it a 22 sounded like. There was a ditch about 1 meter behind me I jumped in the ditch shut three rounds up in the air from the shotgun. That way they knew I was there started out of the ditch and bullets whizzed by me again. Jumped back in the ditch let off three more rounds. Bullets started hitting the ditch above my head. An old veteran told me when I was about 15 years old always carry 00 buck every time I picked up the shotgun no matter what I was hunting. I had about a dozen rounds of 00 buck. Crawled down the ditch like any Infantry man wood on his belly. Popped up about 5 maters away from where they were shooting at me. Let three rounds of 00 buck go over their heads did not try to shoot them. Came back down the ditch re loaded and crawled down the ditch about another 9 to 13 meters and just waited. Whoever was shooting at me was gone. I'm glad I met the old timer that told me to keep of 00 buck with me. There are all kinds of stupid fools in the world.
Gotta shoot to kill next time! So you can see the face of the son of a bitch who was trying to kill you. If there is anything left of it.
should of shot to kill there man
Anyone telling you to "shoot-to-kill" doesn't know how much that'll screw with your mind. Especially at that age...
Good self control, in those situations it’s easy to lose your clarity if you’re not careful.
Holy crap that is insane. That's like it's straight out of mad max. I'm glad you are still alive.
my father went on a hunting trip a few months ago, he was sat on a treestand about 6 or 7 meters off the ground. at that point around noon he heard about 5 bullets wizz past him, wasn't a crack, more of a tzzt noise as per his description. so they were probably far away. I doubt this was intentional, but It blows my mind that people will go out and shoot at nothing in particular and worse, a trajectory that is upwards.
A friend of mine's parents had their house shot 3-4 times by some morons shooting a .308 at steel targets with no backstop (obviously their marksmanship was about as good as their critical thinking skills). Those rounds make it through 3 sets of drywall and an exterior wall after going god knows how far through the trees UPHILL. They were that stupid to be shooting uphill...
Anyway cops tracked them down somehow and slapped them with some pretty serious charges since they managed to shoot an occupied dwelling. Still gives me pause because they only live maybe a mile as the crow flies from my parents' house which sits up on a hill ready to catch cletus' bullets. It's not hard to build a proper backstop and not endanger your neighbors, we're lucky to live outside city limits so we can legally shoot on our land but morons like that are bound to ruin it as the area gets suburbanized.
Like the idiots firing up in the air on the 4th of July. We had a lady killed this year at a party in her yard and they never even heard shots. Came straight down and into the top of her head.
@@jumpninthedarkalley It sounds like something they would test.
@@leahwhiteley5164 I really doubt that happened. If a bullet is traveling straight down, and it wasn’t fired from an airplane, then that means it had to slow down in order to start falling back down again. A falling bullet will not have the velocity necessary to kill someone. If it came in at an angle, then yes but if you shoot a gun straight up into the air the bullets are not going to fall back down and kill someone.
@@assjuice8223 I'm not trying to be a jerk but you are incorrect. You can either Google it or I believe the Mythbusters did a show on this subject. The lady I spoke about is not the first person I've heard of that was killed on a holiday. New Years Eve we've had people killed also. Please research and you will find the falling velocity of a bullet to be enough to penetrate the skull or body tissue.
i hate when people trash a beautiful landscape
Agreed, people need to pick up after themselves.
Whats up P.G. ! People just don't have any respect!
ShotgunMikey81 whatsup bro no they dont its sad
few years ago me and my family were at our regular camping spot by a pond in the woods. we noticed how filthy it was and filled 2 garbage bags with litter, then fish and wildlife services came and fined us $300 for having atv's. really cant win
Ben Cox actually Fuktard... It's more like Libtard Retarded Geniuses...! Just like the ones that left MOUNTAINS of trash recently "protesting" for the environment.. U know the Keystone Pipeline crowd out at the Standing Rock Indian Reservation, ND...?
What's that u say..? U mean ur lying Libtard media neglected to tell you about that... Hummmm interesting..
“Chowderheads with guns” LOL God I love this guy
www.wallowa.com/news/harrell-freed-of-manslaughter-charges-in-troy-shooting/article_b148a9a9-2280-5ca8-968f-3e7a84fcdc1a.html
Here’s the new article
@@elijahcruz8206is that about this guy?
Elijah Cruz what’s that about
1) It's "chowdah"heads, and 2) They are only found in New England. LOL
@@christophermoltisanti1557 You are probably one of those "chowder heads" Paul is referring to.
"Take only memories, leave only footprints."
i love this
I find the intro regarding the litter to be extremely frustrating, and I agree with Paul Harrell entirely. I come from a state with essentially no public land, and I would kill for the opportunity to go out and shoot/hike/camp with no prior arrangements with a landowner. Where I currently live, it's almost impossible to shoot regularly, with the only options being costly and limited ranges, or knowing someone who will let you use their property to shoot on. People in Western states have no idea how lucky they are to be able to use public land, don't mess it up by leaving garbage behind.
Which state?
@@alexanderchenf1 Indiana probably, not a single square inch of public land here. Fuckin farmers
Hint: it has nothing to do with luck
I had a very similar experience, except that we did see the vehicle and saw it again at a gas station later that day. We drove up and talked to the people and I could tell that they were very nice folks. As we chatted, I worked around to asking and they happily told us exactly where and when they had been shooting. When I told them our side, they were horrified. I didn't get angry, as I could see that they genuinely felt very bad about it and apologized profusely. Like you, I was sure they had to have seen us. Just goes to show: Never underestimate the ability of stupidity and incompetence to imitate evil.
Very good point.
Stupid kills more often than evil.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." One of my favorite quotes and logical razors. Hanlon's razor.
"Apologized profusely" for attempted murder? You should have turned them in to the police. There's no possible excuse for what they did.
"never underestimate the ability of stupidity and incompetence to imitate evil".... Damn well said
Dead wrong Paul. It was VERY interesting. Thanks loads.
I agree z
What's the moral? We can shoot at people, but we can't litter?
I actually listen to Paul talk about stuff like this all day long.
YES....simple! Get It, Got it, Good.
I'm curious just how much more interesting the short version is. I imagine there's a drunken abridged version which ends right after Joe finally takes cover and always gets everyone laughing at the bar.
That’s frustrating, Paul. Homicidal assholes!
A psychiatrist I work with at a prison told me a story of interviewing an inmate once who was in prison for hunting hunters. For years, he’d go out in deer season in camouflage with his high powered, scoped rifle and hide out hunting the hunters in orange. Serial killer, is what he was. Anyway, for years police chalked it up to “hunting accidents”. One year, he killed a man and his widow hit the roof about it and wouldn’t let it go. She kept badgering him through the newspapers calling him a coward, etc. Finally, he got so mad about it, he wrote her a reply in the newspaper. The cops used that to track him down. He’s doing a life sentence now.
I think I heard that story before...
hes not all that bad if they were hunting for sport.
@@MrWeenuk21 lol yes he is. u think the guy killing people gave a shit about the ethics of hunting? he's a piece of shit whose actions momentarily intersected with your retarded world view
@@MrWeenuk21 This happened in Southern Ohio. Who goes sport hunting in the fucking Midwest?
@@MrWeenuk21dog that doesn't justify murder
This is a great reminder to think before we act. Situational awareness is extremely important. A friend told me a story about 25 years ago he was 25 feet up in a tree stand while bow hunting on public hunting ground. Somebody for no apparent reason with a 22 was shooting at him from about 150 yards away. Only a handful of shots were fired and he could hear a few whiz past him. During that time he thought a bug bit him on the leg. He found out a few minutes later he was bleeding and it ended up being a bullet hole. There are some crazy people out there.
Maybe you had some retard mistaking him for an animal
Totally agree about the littering,.
There is a spot me and friends go to up on a mountain in the desert and it use to be just TRASHED with litter, furniture, blown up tv's, brass and shot gun shells as deep as your ankles in a couple spots.
Over the course of a couple weeks we went up there a couple hours a day and took at least one truck bed full of shit down and to the dump. When we finally got it cleaned up and looking nice, i made up a sign saying to please respect the land and be responsible shooters by cleaning up brass and trash. People still left shit but to this day, others now help and pick up other peoples trash if there's any left behind.
Something i ended up being really proud of.
That's what I'm trying to do with a really nice spot where I go shooting. It really beautiful, opens up to miles of mountains and is totally littered with shotgun shells and all kinds of other crap. I had the idea of placing a garbage bin for people to use but I thought some assholes would just shoot up the bins and my job would be wasted.
Time to hide a trail camera somewhere...catch their license plates
Good job . That’s very admirable.
It’s not 35th ave and baselines old quarry is it? I saw a sign like that out here I mean still messy as all piss but I can see it being much worse than it is now.
Back in the late 60 s early 70 s we used to go to the dump to shoot rats. They were cruelly glad to have us there and only asked whatever else we shot up was junk and it was in the revetment not making a big mess. Great fun as rats are very smart but there were always plenty . Imagine doing that today the cops would be all over you
I could listen to you tell a story about paint drying. And leaving shells/casings after shooting is equivalent to alcoholics leaving beer cans/bottles behind, so thank you for raising awareness of picking up after ourselves (and I can quit shooting anytime I want to). Great video.
"I can quit shooting..." LOL
One Fat Hick; with a long enough lever of course.
damn
I used to live in the middle of nowhere. One time as a teen, I was with my dad who was driving down a remote back road to a job site. Suddenly our back window exploded. We chalked it up to a piece of gravel being kicked up at a strange angle and hitting it, but later when we were cleaning out the glass we found a hole in the trim around the window, and taking the trim off we found the remains of a bullet. The area we were in had a lot of residences (farms, mostly) and roads, so target shooting or hunting were absolutely not allowed, especially pointing in the direction of a roadway.
I don't know if we were shot at, but it sure seems weird that the only vehicle on a long stretch of road that would have been visible from a huge distance in every direction got hit in a place where shooting isnt allowed.
Theres a lot of morons about who think cars are bulletproof. I can only put some of these stories down to that
One of my favorite things as a child was going to the gun range with dad to collect all the awesome brass, and sometimes if we were the only ones there, we'd go out to the berms with hand shovels and a coffee tin and collect all the lead. (Probably 95% of the club members were black powder shooters only). My dad melted down all the lead and made his own roundballs for YEARS with all the lead we brought back. Fun times!
Lol seems very fun
The rule is "take only pictures, leave only footprints," whether I'm shooting, hiking, camping (or all three).
what movie is that
Add my dad's corollary: Always leave a place in better shape than you found it.
@@bigtoe4344 The Boy Scout Handbook.
Learn how to read.
nice
Police when you arrive, police when you leave.
My theory: The chuckleheads in the pickup truck were locals headed out to their favorite shooting spot. They found outsiders already set up there. At least one was an idiot and decided to "intimidate" the interlopers. The shots were intentionally off target.
That's my guess as well. I have to think that I would have considered laying down suppressive fire that was also deliberately off-target, but enough to get them to pack up and leave.
I no longer go out into the woods without a centerfire rifle because of exactly this sort of idiot.
My guess is about the same, except they were trying to zero and the burm was too short and some fliers went over. I'd have to get an account from Paul as to how many audible shots were fired versus how many shots seemed to be going overhead. Either way, these guys were negligent and manslaughter (or worse if it was intentional) could have occurred.
My return fire would not have been.
I would think likely the same thing.
In France villages the favorite sport is the Cal. 12 "rain" with little grains to intimidate strangers....
Imagine spending your whole life becoming an expert in firearms and self-defense only to get taken out by some random punk with a .22 lobbing shots at you a quarter mile away.
I was out gopher shooting with my buddies once, there were 6 of us, and 3 guns. All .22 caliber, 2 bolt actions and a semi auto. We were in a loose line, above a nearby road, and firing across the hill. A large, loud, lifted truck went ripping by revving the engine with 3 people in the box, firing their rifles. The first shot passed between me and the guy next to me, at head height. Of 6 of us, 3 reacted, and 3 more or less stared dumbly. I hit the ground, and would have returned fire, had i a weapon. On guy ran forward yelling profanity, and one other guy ran away. Of the remaining three, one more or less stood in place panicking, and tow seemed stunned. About a dozen more shots were fired at us from approximately 50-250 meters away as the truck drove away at medium speed, popping the clutch to revv the engine. To this day i have no idea who or why. I am just glad i didn't have a gun at the moment, because there's a chance i would have killed or maimed someone, and probably went to jail.
thisisn'tmyrealname would have 100% been a justified shooting
would have been a textbook case of self-defense.
too bad you didn't shoot them because they probably continued to shoot at and possibly kill other innocent people
@@jackliu7326 Understand, in court its not what you know its what you can prove. Proving it was 100% justified could have been very hard to do in court. Lastly, You don't shoot unless you know for sure exactly what you are shooting. He could have shot a an unarmed 13 yr old that was with the group and would be in prison right now for having done so. In that situation its best to take cover unless you are under immediate threat. Given the threat was so far away a prosecutor would make the argument they were not under immediate threat and the kids in the truck didn't know they were there. Know your situation.
that would have clearly been self defense
Paul, we've been bugging you to tell the "long story" for quite a while and, while I didn't expect to hear any cool, sensational secrets left out of the "short version", I really appreciate you taking time to reenact the long version for the sole purpose of (and please don't take this the wrong way) "more of Paul's storytelling is ALWAYS better than less".
You are a very undervalued instructor and entertainer. I learn something from every video and from everything you test. For example, I appreciate you telling us what went through your mind with both shooting back and why you didn't contact local law enforcement.
I know that you have a private life to protect but the fact of the matter is this: your career choices have provided you with so many more personal experiences (stories) than most of your viewers will ever experience even once in a lifetime. So when I hear, "let me share a personal anecdote", I know that I just hit paydirt in both my personal education and my entertainment value for the day. I feel fairly confident that I speak for a large group of your viewers when I inform you that, without compromising your personal life, your life experiences definitely enrich the lives of us Joe Schmo subscribers. Please, don't feel like "storytelling" is EVER a burden on is. Blowing up things is fun to watch but hearing real life stories in the world of home defense, military, law enforcement, and staying yoked at... 40..., is equally entertaining and educational. And thanks for clarifying that your viewers won't find you in old porn videos. haha.
So...this is just one subscriber's reaction to your video today. Well done!
Brad Erickson hear hear
I agree whole-heartedly.
Very well said. You stole my thunder but saved me from writing something probably less accurate. Instead I just echo your sentiments.
Paul is our TH-cam Dad. Two thumbs up, thanks pop!
lol wow
I see him more as an uncle I never had.
For when your real dad failed
My Dad is a Canadian army combat veteran retired but about 4 years after he retired he was out hunting deer and somebody starts shooting full size rifle rounds at him and they are landing a couple of inches too a foot beside him and he grabs the orange hunting sweater he is wearing and starts swinging it in the air and the shooting stops but he never figured out who was shooting at him.
I had something like this happen once in Steamboat Springs, Colorado on Buffalo Pass. My friend and I were just hiking and looking for a spot to camp and two guys with rifles starting blasting the trees were walking through, presumably to flush us out thinking we were elk (I honestly think there are more irresponsible idiots out there hunting than there are Paul Harrells, having listened to the horrendous stories of personal misconduct from fellow hunters). That idea is challenging to hold, though, as they continued to shoot even after we leaped out of the trees and jumped up and down yelling to stop shooting. These days I don't go anywhere without a firearm. You truly never know who would be happy to kill you over something trivial (like daring to hike in a common hiking area near town, apparently.).
Thank you for telling the long version, I was interested to know.
Maybe you were close to a grow operation or something similar and they were trying to scare you off.
fukn druggies REEEEEEEEEEE
@@mikuhatsunegoshujin wtf you idiot
@G2C Lover
Ha, he looks like a guy I work with.
Actually that's a good point... That's def possible
You are probably 100% correct on this.
I don't think the shooters were trying to kill anybody but just get them out of the area.
If they were out to kill, They would have drove in and fired at close range.
Something similar happened to me almost a decade ago. Got back from my first deployment and was told I was deploying again in 4mos, just enough time to change commands and get my gear. I drove my new used tacoma home, and for old times sake, decided to take the truck out for some "REAL" offroading on some roads I knew. Before I left, I grabbed my New Vaquero in .45lc, because you NEVER go alone unarmed into the hills. I got to my favorite spot, which to my dismay, had a road a lot closer to it than I remember from 3 years before. I parked the truck in a empty plot and I started walking the ditches and little canyons for an hour or so and had almost made it back to the truck when I heard that pop pop pop and saw a few puffs in the ground above me about 20-30 feet ahead. Realizing what it was, I drew my pistol and fired 3 or 4 into the same spot while shouting. I heard some voices and foot steps, and a few guys appeared above me on the canyon rim. We exchanged pleasantries, they helped my climb out of the canyon, gave me a beer, and I continued on my way. Lesson learned, I don't walk the canyons anymore.
@N-Word Salesman Perhaps he was Asian? People are racist ya know.
Perhaps you were Asian? Some hillbillies hate any minorities.....Always pack!
what was it about? why did they end up shooting at you?
@@SteveIsHavingMC They thought he was Asian....you know this Covad-19 stuff, many Asian's are the subject to Racism.
@@bigfootswatching9986 dude fuck off with the "hurr durr he was chinkoid" shtick
“Hey, joe we’re taking fire”
Joe replies “Come on man!”
This incident is what inspired the infamous Double Barrel quote lol
Corn pop was a bad dude.
Underappreciated youtuber right here, great content,very informative, straight to the point while still having some dialogue that doesn't put me to sleep.
Same thing happened to my wife and I, except we were on my families land and some people renting a cabin next to my families land were shooting at us on our four wheeler. I heard the cracking and whizzing and literally the tweety bird moment moment while bullets were landing in front of us. I grabbed my AR and emptied a 40 round mag in their direction while yelling. Called the police and nothing happened. I regret doing that but in the heat of the moment I thought we would be shot because a small ATV does not provide much cover. Spoke with the land owner that rented his cabin and he now refuses to rent it out anymore. My wife will still not go back to my families land for a range day. Some people just lack common sense to not shoot at what you can not see.
Sadly and regrettably I've been on the other end of a situation involving negligent target shooting (with me being the negligent party). My friends and I went to a the local dumpsite/"outdoor range" and set up old cans and trash to shoot at. We shot until our mags were empty and when we started reloading we heard someone screaming at us to stop shooting. We scanned the area and saw a guy about 150 yards or more behind our targets taking cover behind his tipped over snowmobile. We told him we had ceased firing and he hopped on his snowmobile and sped off. Luckily he didn't get hit by any of our bullets. We had no clue that there were any snowmobile trails in that area. This happened in Interior Alaska, so anything could be considered a snowmobile trail.
It may be possible the chowderheads that disappeared behind the hill used the hill as a backstop for target shooting and the stray rounds were going above your head. Just a thought.
That's why having a backstop is in my mind a necessity, shooting off into an open field or dense trees may seem safe but in reality that's creating a large danger zone you can't reliably monitor. I like to know the exact patch of material that's stopping my bullets and make damn sure that's where they all end up, should not be shooting over your backstop or you're doing something wrong.
At the DNR shooting range at Kanawha State Forest, there is a trail that runs almost parallel to the range. At the bottom, there is a "no entry" sign, but I've seen people come down that trail. It's a scary thought that somebody would be walking around in the woods down range.
And imagine being a hiker: hearing countless gunshots from dozens of shooters, hearing that it's the direction you're going, knowing you're getting closer, and NOT turning around!
@@cymond Unfortunately I've come across a fair few hikers that play music loud enough that you'll hear them long before you'll see them. I imagine they wont be hearing much of anything around them carrying on like that.
@@freddy67h I left the Kanawha Valley in 2011, so that was before the widespread proliferation of Bluetooth speakers, and nobody was carrying around an old school boombox, either.
6 people arrive, fire 20 rounds into the berm, drive off? interesting target shoot.
I love it when Paul lays down the law
I see you all over. Music and now here
I would still heavily recommend reporting it if something like this happens, even if you have absolutely zero proof, if the cops are doing their job then it would be put into record and the next times someone else also reports similar incidents then they can be sure that it's not a one off occurence. Plus if you're being specifically targeted and another incident occurs when you HAVE proof then not reporting it the first time hurts your credibility.
With the propensity of cops to investigate and gather data on people, espcially who has arms and what kind they have, no thanks. I'll bear my own burdens and deal with situations as God gives me wisdom.
@@libertypastor1307 There is no god so no wisdom in you
@@libertypastor1307 That's the dumbest thing I've read all week. What kind of morons hide their perfectly legal and constitutional activity like firearm ownership? If Paul cared about a cop knowing he has guns he wouldn't shoot competitively, go hunting, have a TH-cam channel about shooting...
@@SuicideVan Who said anything about hiding anything? I've made 11 Citizen's arrests in my lifetime, and the only problems I have had were with the police after they show up and want to collect their data for their reports. One guy got away because the police wanted info from me for their records. That was my first one. I never let that happen again. Now I give them orders when I ask for their help, which I try not to need.
You do things your way, I'll do things my way. Obviously, we have different beliefs. I could think your way is moronic, too, but I'll be a little more respectful.
@@libertypastor1307 if you've made that many "citizen's arrests" then you are more delusional than we all first thought. Citizens arrest isn't even a real thing ya dork.
Leave it better than you found it. Part of the Boy Scout handbook
This is why I pack out some of the other people's garbage, though I curse under my breath a little bit. I wonder if a lot of this is the 'BLM land is my land' mentality, which is totally true, but it doesn't mean we're not sharing it with others. They should just buy some private property, then they can leave their trash. Generally out in these 'types' of areas (I'm in Utah), acreage is ridiculously inexpensive, because it is basically worthless. I'd still cringe to think there is a property with a bunch of garbage, but at least they'd be crapping in their own backyard instead of ours.
I agree with you Adam.
Shawn Bane filing ki
My father's motto when we went camping was "Take pictures, leave footprints."
Oregon invented the bottle deposit in the US. It does not stop people littering with targets and shell casings, unless you are a reloader.... He is in Oregon and the other State is likely Washington. Both have that type of terrain.
Well, since he killed a man who tried to run him and his wife down with a truck while they were camping, trust that he knows what it's like to have been charged with manslaughter and go before a grand jury as an out-of-towner.
How.. how do you know that?
@@jamesmonroe1538 Available if you search for this gentleman online in the local paper from where he was charged.
@@johnsmith-dy8yb I read it. Interesting, very interesting. Considering the drawing of him mutton chops, I had to do a double take, but it most certianly was him.
@@johnsmith-dy8yb
How are we to know what local paper that was, if we don't even know which state?
@@eugene7304 Requires research on Google - try the Pacific Northwest first.
My Dad and I took fire down in the Texas Hill Country. I was 14 years old . He told me to take cover. I did but kept my eye on where we were taking fire from. He put 6 rounds of 30/30 into a rock at 100 yards right by the guy and he ran. The motive was to discourage us from hunting down there. Quite the experience at 14.
Steel casings rust away in a year or so. Brass casings turn dark and mix with the dirt and become harmless, particularly pistol ones.
But shotgun shells leave ugly plastic messes that take a decade to biodegrade. Just plain litter when left behind.
One of the areas where i bow hunt there are literally 100's of old 12ga shells all over the edge of the fields near the wood-line from bird hunters. some of them are from YEARS ago and still not degraded fully, it is a shame.
@@andyw237 Well pick them up for fucks sake
And they’re the easiest to find and cleanup after yourself
Shotgun shells are also the easiest to pick up too. all it takes is a magnet.
UK shooter here, this is exactly why I use compressed paper cartridges for my shotgun. I pick all my empties up anyway, but on the odd occasion I miss or lose one I can be sure it won't be around for long.
The most surprising part of this is that Paul owns that little cutoff tank top.😄
Its the true apparel of an operator. Combine that with some ripped jean shorts and you are basically SOF.
it may just be a shirt he borrowed, or even decided to create just for the video. he could then use the shirt as a dirty rag.
more surprising is he can run like steven seagal
Oh, behave.
A Fugal why don't you?
When i go kayaking or hiking i pick up trash. It floors me how inconsiderate people are on a refuge.
40 or so years ago a friend and I were deer hunting in the northern part of Minnesota. It was rifle season. He and I both had rifles and were both wearing bright orange head to toe clothing.
It was early morning and at least ten below zero, perhaps colder. The problem with that is you don't get to sneak around in the snow as each foot makes a crunch sound in the snow.
As he and I were walking, we heard a rifle shot in the distance. We thought that's going to scatter deer in the area. Soon after another shot followed and this one went overhead and tge cracking sound of low hanging branches was heard.
Both of us were former military and we both crouched down low. We looked at each other and thought, that couldn't have been intentional? Two more shots went overhead. We thought we heard distant voices. My partner yelled out, of course with a few expletives mingled in, with a warning.
One more shot came our way. My partner raised up and shot in the general direction, aiming high. We heard no more shots.
It's possible, especially with poorly trained people, to squeeze off a round without consideration of what may be its backstop. Several rounds in your direction indicate malice, especially after a verbal warning.
BTW, dense woods found it the location we were, don't provide a clear path to shoot 500 plus meters away. That's why the 30/30 is so popular among hunters familiar with the geography.
What's most disturbing about stories like yours (and mine) are how common these events are.
Some Hmong piece of shit killed a bunch of American hunters in northern Wisconsin awhile back. I think they caught him in their tree stand or something and he just started blasting them.
Very interesting AND educational. 1) grab weapon THEN 2) go for cover. A bullet whizzing past you is a distinctive sound you never forget.
I'm kind of surprised that one guy didn't realize it. IME bullets ricocheting and going by you sounds almost exactly like the movies, just not as loud. I'm not sure how you could confuse it for something else.
especially if you have been shot or fired at before.
That's that whole problem of "train like you fight" - as cringy as it sounds. You can sit on the range punching holes in paper from your conceal carry holster all day. But until you have a PERSON coming at you in genuine surprise, you don't have any idea how you'll react. There's a video floating around the tubes here I can't seem to find again. A guy goes onto an indoor range with a CCW holster testing a draw/shoot on a paper target that SOMEONE ELSE would move at him. You can see just in his body movements how uncomfortable of a position this puts him in. If I find it I hope I can get back here and repost it, interesting watch. Found it! th-cam.com/video/SSUS-b1Ftq0/w-d-xo.html
@@uncreativename9936 The catch here is : The bullets Paul encountered , if from a .22 LR, were likely well into the subsonic velocity range by 300m ... so there's no supersonic "Snap" like when you're in the target butts, or encountering live High-powered fire. it would be a funny low whirr, and a bit of a hiss... impacting the ground, should make more of a proper buzzing ricochet, albeit faint, because they're only .22's... the first few rounds might likely have been completely missed by the average person. If they were .223 or more powerful, it's likely the loud snap would have caused almost anyone's adrenaline to kick-in and send them scrambling for cover.
"ArmA 3" taught me, it has superb sound simulation. The bullets flying by, hitting things, sound like whip lashes. And it is kinda scary if you are fired at from multiple directions in an area with loud echo noises. Especially scary if the shooters are too far away and the whip lashes are louder than the shots themselves. You just don't know where to run, where to hide. Yeah fuk the EU, greetings from Germany.
Having never been in the military, let alone combat, I would likely be "Joe."
Eric Redbear Hell, I was in the military (no combat) and its 50/50 that I would’ve been Joe. I think, and this goes for most of us, it likely depends on the situation, how distracted you are, your mood etc. Let’s hope we never have to find out how we’d react to some idiot hillbillies takin’ pot shots at us! 😂
You would be okay. Once the first round goes over head things crystallise for you.
@@DocLois2010 That's kinda how I felt too. I might not be in military, but I've played enough damn video games to recognize the whiz of a bullet. I'd be hitting the ground or finding cover asap. Paul wouldn't have even to have to tell me to.
I'd have stood there cluelessly like Joe, but if someone as dry and matter of fact as Paul said "get down, we're taking fire" I like to think I'd be smart enough to take it seriously.
@@Not_Ciel and which game would that be? The actual sound of incoming bullets being fired towards your position is something very few, if any video games ever get right.
I've binged a few of Paul's videos this weekend and this Joe guy is some piece of work
People just don't understand bullets travel. I love your vids your very to the point I think u give yourself lil to much grief on your dialog you do just fine. I'm a fan and have learned alot from your vids thank you for taking the time to do these cause just like me there is always something to be learned by them. Keep up the good work.
There are always gangs of small town vigilantes who absolutely hate city slickers hunting in what they believe is their personal territory. I have seen it here in Canada when deer hunting a few hours up north. There were large groups of hunters who would block all the entrances into crown land with their trucks. You could tell by the number of crew cab trucks and trailers that they had their entire clan in that bush. We hunted on about 500 acres of private land but were warned by the owner never to cross the border fences, any shot quarry that crossed the border was to be forgotten and belonged to the neighbor.
Yes I believe they shot at you intentionally as a deterrent for hunting there but I think their fire was meant to draw yours in return. In which case the local sheriff whom they all know and may even be related to would throw the book at you. You were very smart for not shooting back in this case.
Very good point.
Thanks
When we arrived to the above mentioned town ( about 3.5 hrs drive north) for the first time we were immediately followed and stopped by a cop. He asked where we were going and then said oh yes I know him but when I asked why I was stopped he just replied because he had never seen my vehicle before.
When we got to our hunting grounds the owner was waiting at the gates to greet us and told us the cop had given him the scoop on how many men were coming with descriptions. Not a bad thing in my opinion but my point is that in these situations you are always out numbered and out classed.
Going to the local supermarket, diner or bar was a real treat as well. Everyone stared at us like we just came from outer space. The local bar was the most amusing, If you like to see home grown, deliverance type back woods missing link creeps just come deer or moose hunting here.
Long story I know but it was necessary. Its much longer but this was as short as I could make it
Deliverance deal for sure. Rambo: First Blood also comes to mind.
well it would be very different story if some round struck the truck, at that moment you would be well within your rights to return fire and no connections to local PD would make that any better when you have a piece of hard evidence to the threat of injury/death lodged in your vehicle
@@Asghaad at that distance it might not even break a window but you have a fair point
First, the long version is really interesting because it illustrates three very important points.
1. It only takes a few irresponsible clowns to give all hunters and plinkers a bad reputation.
2. Don't be a litterbug.
3. The most important point: engage your mind before you engage your weapon. If you shoot anyone, even in self-defense, you will have to be able to satisfy law enforcement that you were justified in doing so. How hard or easy it is to do this will vary from one jurisdiction to another.
Now let's say Paul and his buddies had returned fire and inflicted casualties, and the other guys buggered off. The incident is reported to the police or county sheriff or whatever as would surely be the case in the event of casualties. The sheriff rounds everyone up, but the aggressors all claim it was Paul and his buddies who opened fire first. What happens then? I'll tell you what happens: you end up needing a lawyer.
The takeaway: be responsible, leave no trash behind, and NEVER shoot at anyone unless your life depends on it.
These replies got stupid in a hurry
There's a lawyer attached to every pull of the trigger.
@Stewart Deel absolute idiot.
@Stewart Deel when your rotting the rest of your life away in a jail cell I'll bet you'll wish you acted like a "pussy" and used your brain for once
Legitpenguins69 rather be in jail than dead
It was not only very interesting, it was extremely informative about understanding one’s situation on several levels. Thank you so much. Also, I imagined that events like this happen but this will be helpful in planning for and dealing with one, should it occur. May you be healthy, happy, safe, and have all you need.
Great video, as always. Paul is a great story teller with a unique style.
Paul, the way you speak and tell stories is absolutely enamoring. You capture attention very well. Thank you for sharing.
I had a similar thing happen when I was 17 . Me and a buddy were out plinking with a Glenfield tube fed .22 , a pump 12 gauge and a single shot 12 gauge. We were in a huge pit dug out for road build were a pond had formed. We were probably a good 40 feet below the entrance which was a 100 or so yard away. Some guys drove up in the entrance and stopped. We saw them but didn't pay much attention because we were shooting at snake by then . Next thing I know I here a whistle and something hit the water in fron of me and my friend. It only took a few before we realized they were shooting at us. We had nothing to hide behind except big old equipment tires so that's we we went. I had the .22 in my hand and my friend had the pump but we really didn't want to shoot back and cause a mini war. We were at a big disadvantage from the get go so we stayed behind the tires as best we could . This lasted only 15-20 minutes but it seemed a lot longer at the time. We never found out who it was or even what rifle they were shooting but it wasn't a good feeling at all. I don't know anyone who would want to shoot another person and even if they were just playing around it was a dangerous way to play . Always be aware of your surroundings and available cover if needed. You don't know who else may be shooting in the SA,e area as you !
“When it comes to litter bugs shotgun shooters are the...”
...most obvious.
"That sounded like a..."
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"That was, that was a bullet going over my head!"
The litter problem is really getting bad. Here we have public land where people shoot regularly, it looks like a dump....... Simple it you have room to bring it , you have room to haul it out. Others are not your mother and we tire of you types giving us a bad name.
12 years ago in Kodiak, Alaska they shut down a similar area near the Coast Guard base. There were televisions, washing machines, engine blocks, and more broken glass than one would ever think possible. A few hundred yards down the road, the chowderheads started doing the same thing. You just cant get away from them, they're everywhere. Always have been, it's just the population is getting denser now and you're forced to be aware of their existence more often.
My local state park has a range it's like 3 to 4 inches of shot gun shells on the ground. Not including other cases
My experience is similar to Paul's. When it comes to brass litter, shotgun shooters are the worst.
When I first started going out shooting with a friend at some, not so local, rock quarries, I thought it was thoughtful of the others to leave their interesting targets out there for others to enjoy. I thought, "if this is a popular shooting location, than why not just let it be that so people will have an unofficial range to shoot at, and not litter up some other locations? Then we went back to one of those places and found the signs all over stating `No Shooting', and such, then another, and another. In those trips, I think we contributed a few one gallon water jugs, and a few plastic pop bottles. Other than that, just the brass we spent. No we didn't clean that up because there appeared to be no point. The place was covered in thousands of cases, and mostly shotgun shells.
Anyway, after these places were shut down, I realized that this was why they were shut down. Not everyone was on board with these locations being treated like a dump. Also, having such a place to shoot at didn't prevent people from turning another spot into a dump. This practice, that I initially thought of as practical and litter preventive, was just giving the entire shooting community a bad image. It makes us appear thoughtless, lazy, sloppy, which leads to dangerous, and especially environmentally unconscious. Now while I hate all the overzealous and paranoid regs at local gun ranges, I understand that they need to have rules that are based on an assumption of worst case scenario of shooting idiots. So I get why the rules have to be very uptight. I also hate to shoot on these ranges, because they can be a real pain in the a$$. I much prefer to have a spot far away from everyone where we can just do our thing, safely, then leave it cleaner than we found it when we are done, but that requires a discipline that apparently is still plenty uncommon today. Even if I owned the property I was shooting on, I'd still police up my brass, and anything else inorganic.
Interesting; Three years ago, down near Quartzsite Arizona my wife and I were in a wash searching for rocks to populate our yard in South Dakota. We saw a group of bikers go by on the road that leads to where we had our motor home parked, then within a few minutes bullets flew overhead, since we were down in the wash they were well over our heads, but still a bit worry some. Being a retired police officer, and former soldier, I was quite familiar with the sounds, but never really felt in danger since we were rather low in that wash area. When we drove back to our rig, we discovered the targets of the bikers. A falling rock sign was peppered with bullets, apparently one of the bikers was not as good a shot as the rest as his bullets continued past where we were rock hounding.
I’m glad you did the long version. Thank you.
Like a few of the others I read in the comments, I to had a similar experience while hiking in the Sierra Nevada Mtns in 2017. I was around 6 miles into a hike resting under a tree and eating lunch and some1 atop the ridgeline tried to pick me off, I could not place the direction of fire for about 10 seconds or maybe 5 or 6 shots but I saw the rounds hitting the trees and ground around me. The caliber sounded large and not at all like a .22 but that's all I could tell, My brother has always told me I move very fast and I think that saved me along with the Lord and adrenaline. I did the ducking boogie outa there and Literally never went back.
Seeing Paul run around the truck going "Eek!" made my year.
Joe just got roasted.
Kudos to you for cleaning up. As a shotgun operator i police my brass and hulls for this reason
Yeah sorry about that I was shooting in the air in celebration, my sister is pregnant I’m going to be a dad
Congrats man. When are the piglets due?
Sleeping with your brother in laws wife always brings family drama. Trust me on this, I did it twice.
@@mrskunk4732 How many brothers do you have?
@@TheLZempir3 the same amount as my uncles, 2.
@@mrskunk4732 u nail same wife twice or two different wives?
Years ago i was scraping loose paint off the house, on an extension ladder and started taking fire from a pellet rifle. The pellets hit the stucco but not me. I scampered down the ladder, walked down the street and at the 4 way corner I saw beer cans sitting on the side yard fence gate. I called out and heard a voice answer, my neighbors 2 sons had decided to do some target practice that morning. On that ladder the first thing that went through my mind " what the hell is that noise", still on the ladder looking around , trying to figure out what was going on, instead of getting off the ladder, duh. The mind just can't grasp it, its so out of the ordinary.
I still think it would have been a good idea to inform the local law enforcement. Let's say these goons come by once or twice a month for one of these drive by's, they're eventually going to kill someone. If each of these failed attempts are followed up with a police report, measures could be taken to prevent this from happening.
This is exactly correct. Eventually (if the locals don't do anything) there will be enough to justify the county or state coming in to investigate. Seen it.
@@TheAmGoth Their reply should there EVER be an instance of them getting caught, "We were just getting target practice, we did not even know that a .22 would travel that far." Followed by them getting released and sent home having been told not to do that again.
xarlock's how to channel - there’s at least a chance that after that, they actually don’t do it again since they couldn’t tell the same story twice. Maybe they don’t go to jail, but the problem could be stopped and the child they would have hit the following month gets to live.
what measures would you propose be taken?
@@n386cp4 Most times, they would have been shooting at targets on the other side of that hill he described. People are idiots and make exceptional errors in judgement every day.
BUT assuming that they were firing at you deliberately with malice and forethought, shoot back, and shoot to kill.
Now this next part is against the law, but as Paul points out, it's a small town rural area, and the local cops may not be on your side.
I would dispose of the bodies and the truck. Lots of ways to do it, just make sure you take and destroy any cell phones and any memory card they might have.
That was totally worth pestering you for.
Thanks for telling the long version, I found it very interesting and makes me think about how I would act if I was ever in a situation like that.
"6 of them, probably all armed, and then the three of us, and the only one of us that's armed is me." So in other words those 6 guys were hopelessly outmatched.
Thanks for sharing your story Paul! I had someone shooting at me just last year in a similar remote location. I had come back from trail riding on my dirtbike and thankfully already finished loading up before it happened. I could hear bullets zooming by over head and to the side of me and see the bark flying off the trees for the bullets impacting around me. Fortunately I was able to get in my vehicle, stay low and get down the road to cover quickly and leave the area. I didn't have any evidence either but I did let the sheriff know so it would be on record and he could at least go clear the area and scare off the shooters.
Crazy world we live in.
Before pot was legalized in Oregon, I had warning shots over my head on several occasions.
Depending on the distance...shots overhead could just have been over-compensated bullet drop shots...anything coming close to me I take as someone tryin to very well kill me and....obviously you cant spray into a treeline...but id return fire if I saw one of them pointing a weapon...and then id follow them when they fled. Should they fire AT me again id obviously return fire with intent to kill... Albeit that would make for a very tricky case of self defense. But people like that will kill someone if they haven't already...and basically are fine with doing it. F that
@LooksForLogos that's what im saying. And I know...many will likely think I wouldnt be so decisive in the heat of the moment and I'm tough behind a keyboard (which id understandable). But, I don't know if I could keep cool enough not to fire back...this occurrence really would have infuriated me. But that's a weakness...
@LooksForLogos right, we're talking about death if those bullets were a foot lower and the guns they came from centimeters lowers or less. Just not something to play around with and only the biggest assholes would consider a joke.
@LooksForLogos with the fact he mentioned he was in a city/town/county he was not familiar with and was an outsider...Paul likely made the right choice. What scumbags tho-people like that are mascots for the ant-gun lobby.
Could just be an asshole property owner who thinks it's a fair way to let people know he doesn't want them walking across his property line, too. Plenty of people out in the middle of nowhere who think you can fire at people legally if they're walking on your property (even unknowingly).
Just found your channel by happen stance and the first video I saw had the short version. Thanks for providing the long version, it is an interesting story.
Your voice is smooth and calm, I'm sure I can mishear any words you say.
This is even more riveting than your telling of the Miami shootout!
Paul, You guys were lucky that none of you nor your vehicle were hit by the local goon platoon during their good old boy style drive by!
I think I'd have filed a report with the local police anyway, for S&G's if nothing else. If a few people report strange happenings and then someone does wind up with a 22lr wound or damage to their vehicle, the local LE might have a description to start with. One report like yours might well end up in the back of the filing cabinet but when two or three more get added, the police or sherrif deputy reading them has a better chance of figuring out who's the idiot zinging 22's at people. On the other hand though - if it ain't on paper, it didn't happen!
Thats why you should always bring a high powered rifle with you and be proficient with it.
I can think of at least one other explanation, though it likely doesn't account for low number of rounds fired. The truck stopped behind a "low hill." Paul says he couldn't see it. So, if that was a short (forgot the beer) target session directed at a target toward the crest of the hill and the shooters reckoned the hill was a safe back stop, then ricocheting bullets can glance and continue on their way. I've seen grooved marks in the ground from stirkes where there was no spent bullet at the far end, meaning instead of being stopped, it kept going, hopefully harmlessly. My dad did this once with a 2.5-inch lead ball from a homemade, black-powder canon. There was a 140-foot hill as a backstop - he thought. The round struck the target, the ground behind, then headed up. We tracked its passage for about 300 feet through scrub oak until we could not find any clipped debris on the ground. Never did find where it came down. Happily there were no neighbors that direction, so if it cleared the back line there was nothing to hit for miles.
Paul, your comment is underrated. People don't realize how difficult it is for police to fight crime if people are mum on reporting it. I think it partially has to do with the way people are brought up to not be part of their community and that crime is "someone else's problem" but crime tips do have a very big influence in the success of law enforcement. Seemingly minor things can be a very big part of a difficult puzzle.
Theeddorian. I thought the same thing too, except Paul mentioned that they were in the boonies. Who travels all the way out only to set up an shoot for only a few minutes? I know that for me a range session lasts at least half an hour and if you are with friends, that often follows a picnic or BBQ of some sort, especially if at a long travel distance. For this reason from what Paul has said, I agree with his assessment that they were deliberately shooting at them. There are a lot of messed up people around the world who get their kicks from seeing other people suffer either physically, or just the joy of scaring them a bit. I don't know when this story takes place, but there is a possibility of those "environmental terrorists". Lunatics who think that mankind is the scourge of the "pure and inncoent world" and think especially that outdoorsmen should be eliminated (but conveniently don't have the balls to off themselves like their ideology would suggest).
The apparent "poor" fit is why I mentioned the low number of rounds fired and the possibility that something might have been forgotten. I have a story of my own from my late teens. I was rabbit hunting with my dog, hiking up a ridge line in deep, dense chaparral (about 12-14 foot high chemise and manzanita). My dog, a collie-mix was quartering back and forth in front of me. I heard a gun shot and a small bush about 15 feet in front of me keel over. I dropped flat as several more rounds were fired. My dog also dropped and bellied over to me.
Being young and stupid I worked my way over to where I could see down into the ravine below. Two fellows, adults at least 30 years old, armed with revolvers were reloading. I could hear them talking. The gist was they didn't think they had "hit it," didn't know what "it" was, and didn't really care. The more I heard the more angry I was. As I said, I was rabbit hunting. I was carrying a .22 magnum rifle with a scope. I'm embarrassed to say I planted a round in the ground right between them. They started yelling about "people down here." I backed off the ridge and went down the opposite ravine headed home. I wonder how they told that story. All it really takes is "stupid."
@ theeddorian Sounds to me like rabbit hunting is more dangerous than I gave it credit for!
Thanks Paul, I’ve been putting this video off for awhile. Now that I’ve watch this, I can tell you I’ve heard of many instances of this happening. One that comes to mind was I the Florida Everglades. The camping couple this happened to, didn’t live to tell their story.
Thank you so much for your story...I wish we we're all thinkers in a situation that intense...we all needed to hear that...thanks!!!
Okay, two questions I've been wondering about for a while:
1.) Does Joe watch your videos, and
2.) If so, what does he think of it that every time you mention him it's to make fun of him?
Joe is the name he gives for the dumb person in his stories, whomever they are. . I would be very surprised if joe was a real person and not just every dumb person he’s encountered.
To what channel are you referring to?
@@blahblah8037 I feel sorry for anyone who's name is Joe who becomes Paul friend.
@@blahblah8037 He's said in multiple videos that Joe is one real person, but not their actual name
Gon he’s said in multiple videos that joe is a real person. Never one specific person. Don’t be joe
Thank you for highlighting the problem with littering. It is super problematic here in Washington state. I always end up cleaning up other people's junk when I leave a shooting spot.
I’ve been shot in the general direction of several times while working as a field geologist for a mining company. Some small claim “cramp miners” don’t much appreciate representatives of big mining outfits showing up anywhere near their claims. The first time I was kinda like Joe; it took me a couple of rounds to grok what was happening. I didn’t immediately connect the sound of the round passing overhead with the slightly delayed report of the rifle. But I caught on pretty quick. I say shot in the direction of, because if that fellow had intended to hit me, I wouldn’t be here today. I later discovered he had put a round dead center through the mining company decal on the front passenger door, just to make sure I really got the message. (That bullet went through the door, the seat, and the floor on the driver’s side rear; the body of a vehicle is not cover!) The one upside of that experience was that I did learn how fast I could drive a 4WD Suburban in reverse. 😉
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Not only is your incident very similar to mine, but the terrain in your video is nearly identical to that in my incident, so I can't help but relate it here. This was on a National Grassland, a popular spot here for target shooting. As I was down range tending to my targets, I suddenly heard shots going over my head, coming from the other side of a small rise in the generally flat terrain. The shots were passing overhead close enough to scare the hell out of me and cause me to get down low. After probably not more than a dozen shots went over me and then cease, I quickly got back to my car parked at the road, where I could see to the other side of that small rise. About 150 yards down range were five guys appearing to be in their 20s standing in a cluster with long guns. The fact that they had been so dangerously shooting into the air, above what could have served them as a berm for their target shooting, had me enraged. Okay, I admit right here and now I let my anger get the best of me and compel me to confront them -- a very risky proposition any way you look at it, which I was aware of then as well as now. Nevertheless, I started walking toward them, my Ruger P97 .45ACP with nine rounds in my side holster. Strangely, while they obviously could see me approaching from quite some distance, they seemed to totally ignore me until I was right up to them, at which time I spoke up in the best "nice guy" tone I could muster while trying to suppress my anger. Four of them were holding shotguns and one a rifle. I told them I was ducking fire on the other side of the rise and asked what the hell are they doing shooting so carelessly. They were very nonchalant about it all and basically denied it and brushed it off. I knew I wasn't going to get any more than that out of these jerks, and fortunately I was at least smart enough to let it slide and bid them adieu. And I'm glad things didn't get out of hand!
Ah Paul, simple math. Guns + knuckleheads = dangerous situation. We, as firearms users must always be careful, even if the knuckleheads don't. Glad no one was injured. Here in Brooklyn we call those folks douchebags.
I really enjoy these videos. They remind me of older family members that used to take us shooting and hunting. No tactical stuff or unrealistic scenarios. You get to see actual proof of tests. Keep up the good work Mr. Harrell. Great videos.
I got shot at in Juarez. Coming out of the club at 0400 with my girlfriend and some friends, we were headed to go somewhere to eat when apparently some robbery took place down the street. There was a street sign behind me and we were huddled around that. Next thing I heard were bullets whizzing by. One went bzzzzzzzzz inches near my left ear. 2nd one farther away but hit the street sign behind us. We all dove behind some cars while the cops were shooting back. That was surreal. When a bullet whizzes right by your ears, that's a life changing experience.
I live next to a rifle range and when I was a kid, a buddy and I decided to go camping. Set up our tent on the top edge of a bluff. Made a camp fire, all was good. About an hour in, we’re watching from what must’ve been 1200ish yards away the rifle shooters do their business. It’s a 500 yard range and being 12 year olds we said, “ehh the bullets go into the back stop dude”, it was only a couple minutes in when some cheddar head with a semiauto of some sort decided to do some rapid fire and we started hearing hisses and wizzes all around us and we never packed up faster.
LOL - Chowderheads with guns!
I was just going to post that! ROFL!
I call them yay-hoos
@@The_Ballo
Local Yokels out to impress their women folks and have big bar talk, about how they ran them City slickers off ?? Seems like they have them every where, you go .
I enjoyed the long version. Thanks for sharing!
Hi Paul. Love your stuff. Thanks for all the realistic shotgun testing.
Ah, this is the deep lore I've been looking for ever since I discovered this channel yesterday.
7:44 My guess:
They were ''muh ballistics charts!'' and ''JUST AS POWERFUL!'' types, they were offended by your high-quality videos.
Nah, they were certainly "Highly trained professionals" members of the "What if..." brigade.
Oh shit, he has a camera man. I was under the impression that he did all the videos himself. Nonetheless Paul's great. I'm glad I found this channel. He should definitely have a TV show!
I read a comment in another video that he trained his dog to be the cameraman
TV is from yesterday. Don't depend on that shit. You will only get shit entertainment and fake news.
@@DarkPsy There's a fair amount of that on here too.
@@jumbo4billion Sure, but there is a lot of good stuff on the internet while there is no good stuff on TV, except for maybe nature documentaries, althought most of them are filled with propaganda aswell like the climate change agenda.
You can actually hear the cameraman's breathing in a LOT of those videos.
Paul you are a class act. Thanks for another great video.
Wow! I had the same happen to me. Except Bigger rounds. Sitting in my Tree stand someone was at my truck firing shots off into my Truck so I thought? They were firing at me in the tree stand. Getting near dark I jumped the 10 foot and pulled my hand gun out. And waited to see if they were coming in my direction. They didn't.
I put my 270 up on the lights of a truck that was moving off from my location. Sure I could have fired off my rifle at them but I'm not wanting to go to jail over a simple scare me out of the woods deal. I later told my Game and fish Officer I was buddies with about it. He said you really don't want to know what I would have done, they were very lucky it wasn't him. He would have shot them.
The ones shooting in my situation had no idea just where I was? They had a general idea, I guess? There's a lot I could have hid off in and having a handgun and my rifle I felt if they really wanted to come in the woods after me for whatever dumb ass reason they would have been in a Great disadvantage. Would I have shot them? I wouldn't want to kill anyone over a deer hunting spot. You can learn a lot about yourself when faced if these situations. I remember a class I was in that was taught by a FBI guy. He told us it's a lot better up on the Stand telling why you killed some one than the other way around.
Hey kids, this is not about picking up trash-this is about attempted murder.
yes...that and the evil shotgunners do....
Interesting. I wonder if they weren't trying to scare you off from something. That is, they were shooting high on purpose.
Drug cache comes to mind. Or maybe just their favorite hunting spot.
That or they were just drunken/high teenage/early 20's assholes who thought they were being funny.
I hate to say this... But those are exactly the kind of people that cause gun restriction laws.
As an early 20’s firearm owner I can attest to this. While I was brought up with a lot of gun safety training. (My mom’s best friend is a national from holster speed shooting champ) I have run across many many people in my age group who only see the fun side of going out shooting. They go out to have fun, and in their either immaturity or ignorance of firearms forget that these things are extremely deadly and dangerous weapons. I can’t count the number of times I’ve been on some outback shooting property and had a firearm unintentionally pointed in my direction, rather than down range because the owner just wasn’t thinking about it. I do my best to educate these sorts of people as I was. Little rant though, the worst kind of people are the ones who unintentionally point a gun at me, I get upset and try and re-educate them on gun handling and the dangers associated with mishandling a firearm...then they ignore me and blame me for overreacting and say it’s no big deal....like shut up. Yes it is a big deal. Don’t point guns at me, asshole.
@@VeteratorianLove Do that at a range and you will get fined and banned
This was more interesting than you might think. Thanks for sharing. You made some very valid points. Glad you survived unscathed.