How to Distinguish Between Intentional Gunfire and Unintentional Gunfire in Your Direction
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ม.ค. 2023
- Paul explains some ways to identify if someone is intentionally or unintentionally shooting at you or in your direction.
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Ohio front door shooting video that Paul was talking about
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The Case Of James Rayl on the Dreading channel is an extensive breakdown of this event.
@@vstaritz Active Self Protection just did one this week as well
Here's an uncensored version with 2 interviews.
A more explicit version th-cam.com/video/mBkI-ze75Q4/w-d-xo.html
Interview with the dad th-cam.com/video/5TtzijifP9o/w-d-xo.html
Interview with the daughter
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I've watched a few clips on this one, and I am absolutely SMH at some of the comments. "Should have just talked with the guy." "Fire a warning shot." "Wrestle him to the ground and tie him up until the police get there." What planet are these people living on?!?
@@warrenfowler8049 - Dad's interview is so messed up. NEVER speak without an attorney. NEVER.
Everything that cop said was to get him to incriminate himself.
NEVER speak without an attorney, even if you know you were right.
type of ammo? - anything other than standard ball ammo indicates a desire to kill
one in the chamber? - means you are ready for a fight
keep it loaded? - means you are ready for a fight
registered in your name? - looking for something wrong or throw you off
NEVER speak without an attorney.
(edited to add question marks to indicate questions given to him, not my statements. The other part is what the prosecutor could say his answer meant. )
Paul is outstanding in his field.
As always
He is also out, standing in his field.
@@HumboldtGuanoBand commas, matter?
Like a scarecrow
Tell him to come back, he has an anecdote to share
I have been shot at unintentionally twice in my life, both times while hunting. One was a fellow hunter who had turned 180 from the firing line since he "assumed we were all in line" as we progressed forward. The other was some target shooters on public land that had an insufficient backstop that were sending all sorts of rounds at my friends and I. We first jumped in a trench/gully to provide cover, then shouted and hollered that we were downrange of them, and then as the fire continued we spent a tedious amount of time working our way around their position so we could approach them safely from behind. Many words were exchanged.
After seeing tracer fire at night i feel pretty confident in saying there is no shich thing as a sufficient backstop when you are dealing with dirt mounds. Ive seen tracers go into mounds and come flying out the top at 45 degree angles
Used to work pit detail for army rifle training. The crack of supersonic rounds overhead is unmistakeable.
I’m really curious to know what those words were.
I got shot at unintentionally once. I was in my backyard as a teen when we heard these loud noises and the ground was sorta tore up near us. Turns out a turkey hunter missed so he blasted out 3 or 4 shell out within 300 years of a home (big no no here. like good bye gun rights hello cuffs no no). We yelled at him then my dad and my friends dad went out towards him for a conversation that can be summed up as 'come with us please to apologize to our sons then the local police are going to talk to you.' The guy wasn't actually charged but he got a nice ride in the back of a crown vic.
@@DonMeaker I grew up a 3/4 of a mile down range from the backstops of a military firing range. The build up to the iraq invasion sure taught us that .50 bmg and 7.62 don't respect back stops and can go faaar after bouncing. The farmer between us and the range was finding those rounds in his feilds for years after.
As a teen of about 13 I was pheasant hunting with my Dad on private land in the midwest. A third man who we did not know joined us. We walked through the fields as a row of three hunters spaced appropriately apart. I was far left, the man was center and Dad was right. We had discussed the field of fire each of us were to have. As we proceeded a pheasant flushed in front of me. The bird was mine and I raised my shotgun to fire. The next thing I knew I felt the heat of a warm pressure wave whoosh past my right ear. My hair rustled. I can still "feel" that today, over 50 years later. The hunter (center man) did not intend to shoot at me but, another inch or two to the left and I wouldn't be writing this here today. Thanks Paul for an excellent topic and discussion.
Dang that's an intense story!
Thanks for sharing.
I bet your dad was livid with the other hunter. What happened afterwards?
Your dad would never have forgiven himself if the worst happened to you. Probably a good reason not to trust anyone you don't know to hunt with you......
The exact same thing happened to me as a kid. We set up a firing line very close to each other and whenever birds popped up, I’d feel the concussive force of shotgun blasts on my face. Afterwards I stopped going hunting.
I've never hunted, but had a round go right by my head. On the range at Camp Pendleton. Someone on another range must have gotten confused and/or whoever was in charge was not doing their job. Probably a good thing that I was in the prone position. The guy in the tower rushed down the ladder, phone in hand.
Regarding returning fire, I would suggest that getting out of there is often a better option. If they came out there to actually shoot you, they may very well be more equipped to do that than you are to stop them. They decided the weapon, distance, timing, etc. Remember, you win the encounter if you get out of there without life-threatening injury. You do not have to actually hit an attacker to avoid getting shot. Nor do you automatically avoid getting shot if you do hit them.
Firing in their direction AND getting out of there might be preferable in some cases, as they may become suppressed. But in general I think putting as much distance between yourself and the guy with the gun as possible is probably a good idea 9 times out of 10.
Yes. As a "decrepit old man of 65" who fought jihad against an entity known as the Soviet Union (most young people have no idea what it was) in the early 1980s in Afghanistan, I can vouch for you viewpoint. One could never tell with any degree of accuracy (most of the time) where someone was shooting at you in those majestic mountains of the Hindu Kush. The only thing you could tell was whether it was a semi-automatic or an automatic weapon and if it was a particularly large caliber weapon.
@@tibzig1 So...did you just admit you fought on Osama Bin Laden's CIA funded side? Or am I totally misunderstanding?
@@genericwhitekidthesecond4330 I was 16 at the time. I have no idea to this day "what Mujahideen group" or "side" I was part of. I was assigned to a loose faction of about 50 fighters. People came and went and were wounded/killed as well. Yes. The Americans (CIA) were funding the Mujahideen through the Pakistani ISI. The Pakistanis were extremely sharp in this regard, and they never allowed the CIA to establish direct contact with those groups. The ISI was the middleman. Yes, I did. There is nothing to admit. Of course, the U.S funded the war against the Soviet Union. The U.S. involvement brought it to a quicker end. We would have prevailed in the long run just as the Taliban prevailed over the U.S after 20 years. Western culture being hedonistic is scared of death and long, drawn-out conflicts. That has been proven over and over.
@@tibzig1 Interesting perspective. A man who is 65 and fought in the mujahedeen is typing on youtube, what a time we live in.
@@dadistos4538 Yes it is. And I have my grandchildren to thank for making me computer literate! LOL! But I still do not have Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter. No use for these. Just Watsapp for those long distance calls.
Two things that I learned from this presentation:
1. Reserve firing your gun to identify your position as a last resort.
2. The less someone knows about your situation, the more they want to judge you.
Thank you for making us think. More people should do so.
The less info you provide about your situation the more likely you will receive factually inaccurate responses.
If you can't beat them, join them!!! (Together there is Unity!)
The "do-gooder" gun owners shall eventually destroy the 2nd amendment on their own, by self-righteousness!
What part of shall not infringe do "do-gooder" and politicians not understand! (This is their fault too!)
Nearly half the nation are convicted felons for victimless non-violent offenses who are ETERNALLY BANNED from possessing a firearm or single bullet, for life! (Self-righteous gun owners shall eventually lose their guns & bullets with the help of the police!)
FACT: There are more non-violent than violent felons without God-given gun rights thanks to self-righteous do-gooders! Non-violent felons can still vote though and abolishing "guns & bullets" from backstabbing "do-gooders" is exactly how they'll vote with vengeance, in record millennial numbers for equal (Slave) EQUALITY!
ALL FOR ONE, AND ONE FOR ALL IN THE NEW MILLENNIUM of SLAVERY!!! (If non-violent felons without victims and injured parties can't legally possess a single bullet, then nobody should possess guns or bullets!) PERIOD!....
- Turtletruth (Oorah)..
I remember a sign a grade school teacher had: Be alert.
The world needs more lerts.
If you realize that someone is in fact purposefully shooting at you, another thing to remember is that you are already at a massive disadvantage. They already know generally where you are and are also apparently already in a position to be able to take shots at you. So getting to cover, assessing where they are at, and then planning what you are going to do is critical. You don't want to just jump out and start firing somewhere.
daily reminder dr paul harrell had to once shoot a guy in the head because that guy thought it was smart to try and scare him and his wife by making like he was going to ram them
That is, unless you have a tank.
Wow you should be given an award for your genius comment
@@miketyson8933 +1
Yeah exactly, if you start firing at (were you) "think" they are (general direction) if you can't see them, you may be firing off in the wrong direction. they may hit you, or they still didn't see you, Only because you didn't signal and they think they are shooting at a deer or something still. Some people shoot at stuff in the woods that moves instead of confirming what it is first yeah it's crappy but it's just the truth of it.
I have been on the fireing side of this. I had a place where I had been shooting on a ditch bank down into a ditch for 30 years. The nut of a neighbor a quarter of a mile away walked out in front of where I was shooting. He then used his cell phone to call the sheriff to report me for shooting at him. THe sheriff arrived and walked over and talked to me about the incident and remarked "Nice set up" because I was set up with a 50 foot range and my vector was such that no stray rounds could leave this 30 foot deep ditch and he could clearly see all my rounds were on target with the way I was set up. The Deputy then went and had a talk with the neighbor about making false 911 reports.
Was it your property and did you have no trespassing signs in your property lines?
@@kriskahn7249 It was and still is irrigation ditch bank managed by a federal agency.
No offence but it kind of dumb to put a personal shooting range on public land good back stop or not. Same as people getting shot at on public hunting property. Him being stupid had just as much right as you
@@kriskahn7249 Public land is how it is done and if you could read a map instead of just yap your face you would know what those marks that denote public shooting ranges and gravel pits are.
Sheriffs are fictional. Did you check if the shooter had the central nervous system required to shoot before calling a slave marketed as Sheriff?
Marketing slaves when made marketable is?
I have definitely had wayward bullets fly over when out shooting on public land.
Also, a guy I grew up with was murdered, and some of his companions were wounded, while camping many years years ago. Someone decided he didn’t like that people were camping in a place they paid to have access to, which was adjacent to his land. He went to prison for sure, but he wrecked some lives.
To this day I always have a gun on me when I go camping (not that it will necessarily save me, but I feel safer).
Be careful out there.
I also have a legal carry permit, but usually only carry if I'm out camping or just looking at the birds or little animals.
@@rin_tinsilver3593 permit? constitution clearly says shall not be infringed.
@@rin_tinsilver3593 I'm glad you follow the law the best you can, while keeping yourself safe.
Same here I will never go camping without some sort of fire arm. You never know what is out there even if they say there is no wild animal's. When I was younger I was nievee not knowing what is really out there until I went camping alone off some logging road in Northen California.
I may never go camping again I gave all my camping gear away.
@@snoopu2601 ok you got me curious, I'll bite.
What happened off that logging road?
"Fire a warning shot!" ⚠️ DON'T EVER FIRE A WARNING SHOT, PLEASE! ⚠️ Follow Paul's advice and keep that whistle right where you can access it. It really is the best audio signal. It's a very clear way to show that you are there and that you are not a danger to anyone else.
Yea a warning shot is a sure way to get your whole hunting party killed like the guy who shot at Chai Vang, granted it seemed like he would've died if he hadn't immediately dropped to the ground and not just that the dude was a well decorated war veteran.
A warning shot works on most animals when hunting, but not a human predator stalking you. A whistle won't tell them better than your voice. But a whistle will grant possible bystander attention, as will your first shot. Whether it be a warning or not. Difference is whether it's legal in your area for a warning shot.
In general, from what I've gathered and Learned, and it's the old saying "dead men tell no tales."
"Patterson, fire a warning shot."
"Sir, this is an M32 Rotary Grenade Launche-"
"Ahh, potato potato, just fire it Patterson."
Paul waving his hat from behind the tree was a very good impression of a deer ruting.
@@WynnofThule Ironically, 40mm colored smoke can actually be a really good warning shot.
My uncle retired to Arkansas and bought a nice sized piece of land and built a house on it. He became drinking buddies with some of the local guys, including one guy who is like a real life version of Boomhauer from King of the Hill. He invited Boomhauer and a few of the other guys to come over and shoot some guns and drink some beers, preferably in that order. He was setting up the target about 100 yards away from the deck they were shooting from. Boomhauer wanted to get my uncles attention, but instead of just shouting, he picked up a 10/22 and started shooting in his direction. My uncle said a couple of the rounds were terrifyingly close to hitting him. Apparently Boomhauer thought a .22 wasn't powerful enough to hurt him at that distance. Unfortunately for Boomhauer my uncle was a pretty big and strong buy before he had cancer, and he walked back to the deck and punched Boomhauer in the mouth, then banned him from his house.
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@@mikewilhelmson8413 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 the translation
@@youtube.commentator yea lol wtf is that
.22LR is deadly further than you can shoot it accurately.
I've met a disturbing amount of people who consider the .22 lr so weak as to not be a threat to other people, likening it to a BB gun. I've heard "It'll bounce off the skull" and "Won't penetrate the skin past 20 yards" on more than one occasion.
A buddy of mine who is a veteran once told me that if the bullet makes the whizzing sound, its not close but if it makes a pop then its time to move and find cover, I was out in an area of desert in AZ when I was younger, me and some friends were target shooting and started hearing pops and stuff hitting the ground near us, I got everyone under cover and took off running toward the gunfire, found 2 guys shooting directly at us through targets even though you could easily see my truck from where they were standing, I yelled at them and they apologized and started packing up
I had one of these incidents as a teenager. Luckily I had been raised around guns. The first shot kicked up dirt in front of me; didn't know for sure which way it had come. There were a few trees around and as I was moving for cover, another shot soared past my ear. There was a huge open field and I don't know where the shot actually came from. Stayed behind the tree for quite awhile and then bolted to safety. It was clearly intention, as though they were sighting me in. Took awhile to process that experience!
Wow... just wow!
Did you ever find out who was shooting at you?
@@glenj.taylor2938 probably not.
Omg. Good thing you kept your wits about you.
@@glenj.taylor2938No, because it didn't happen.
@sukhoifockewulf9371 true, attempted murder has never happened IRL.
“I guarantee you that your actions will be judged very harshly by people from the league of ignorant pedantic doofuses”. Paul Harrell
Not just actions, as a person you will be put online and judged before you appear in court. I am reminded of one of my ignorant acquaintances aggressively asserting that Rittenhouse, "shot black people"
And if you get charged, there's a pretty good chance you'll get some of them on your jury.
@@HCFyD One of them was jchewish and in today's "woke" society, that's even a bigger no-no.
@@jd9119
I’ve served on a jury, you are 1000% correct. BOTH the DA and the Defense get to pick jurors. Remember that. The DA is not your friend.
@@HCFyD Had a run in with a jackass like that in the comments of another video a few weeks back. "Shot blacks". Weird. I didn't know a kiddie diddler, a wife beater, and a burglar; all of whom were white; suddenly turned into a trio of black guys. That was a very obvious "I only know what mainstream media tells me" clue from that guy. Guy was a jackass. I saw phone footage of that incident days after the fact, and it took a year later for more people to start talking about it through that sham of a court case with all the bullshit media spin.
I've been to Norway a handful of times. They have laws that allow people to travel on your property without requiring permission, and even camp there for a few days, as long as they are far enough away from your house. (allemannsrett... or "every man's right)
Every Norwegian I know fully supports this.
I've been to my friend's ancestral family cabin a few times, and we always do some clay bird shooting with a foot activated rig.
The first time I went, we were shooting up a storm and then we heard a voice in the valley call out... obviously it was in Norwegian, so I don't know exactly what was said, but it was something like:
"Hey guys, I am walking here, can you please stop shooting for 5 minutes, until I get out of range?"
They said "sure". And waited for 5 minutes until the hiker was no longer our backstop.
I was amazed about how chill everybody was.
Also - 9 minutes in... if it doesn't get covered later in this video... my (not legal) advice... if you find yourself in a situation when shots are unintentionally heading your way... drop to the ground and fire of 3 rounds in a safe direction... so that people know that you are not a deer/hog/moose/goose/etc.
@BatCaveOz good advice on the dropping. Unless you have reason to believe you are the intentional target.
The way it is in Norway sounds awesome, and I wish Americans could get along that well. Won't happen I don't think considering our government has done things like Ruby Ridge, so we can't trust the person walking :(
In lots of new england we have the same thing, here you can hunt, fish, trap, hike, or target shoot on any land that isnt posted or within a reasonable distance of a house. Well, you cant shoot within city/town limits, but you can do all the other things.
If it's my land I dont want any visitors on it
@@LordPerique do you have a good link to hunting laws in England, specifically what you can and where you can hunt? That sounds interesting
That's a really sinister and scary sound hearing the rounds whizzing by the camera, it would really get you on edge very fast
From experience ,it does get your attention .
Yeah I would definitely say that being shot at would get you on edge great observation buddy
It just occurred to me that when bullets go right past you, you actually hear the whistling sound in reverse. First you hear the sound the bullet made when it was closest to you, then the sounds arrive that it made further away and further back in time, all the way back to then it started whistling through the air at the time of the shot.
Years ago me and a few work buddies were hunting a tree line for rabbit and squirrel. The 180 acre farm we were hunting belonged to an uncle of one of the guys, so we had permission to hunt there. All of a sudden I heard these sssst sounds pass by my head and hit the leaves of the tree behind me. Me and my friends were all ex GI's except for the son of one. We all hit the deck and spread out in combat formation. A second shot (turned out to be a shotgun) buzzed over our heads. Once we saw the shooter (about 75yards away) we opened up on him. All of us had shotguns except me, I had a .22rimfire autoloader. After about 4 volleys we saw the shooter break away and jump into a white pickup truck and take off down the road. One of the guys had a Motorola flip phone and made contact with 911. About 20 minutes later a deputy sheriff met up with us and advised they caught the guy. Apparently he had broke into the house and stolen the shotgun. He was charged with 8 counts of attempted murder, home invasion and a few other charges. He was a repeat offender and got 25yrs, no parole. So, yes, I know what it is like being shot at.
Sometimes you can just feel the hate. Sometimes you can hear the stupidity.
Sometimes they're one and the same.
There's a thin line between brave and stupid. There's an even thinner line between stupid people that hate everybody smarter than them.
seek first to understand, then to be understood. dont eddy out in your own thoughts.
My favorite part of this channel is all of the practical advice Paul gives. The "Shooting while in bed" one sincerely had me training in my bedroom. This is a skill I learned in the Army and undoubtedly Paul did too.
There's something wonderful about listening to wise men offer their life advice based on their wealth of experience. I've learned so much from this channel and I'm not even an avid outdoorsman, other than the occasional/yearly trip to the shooting range. All I can say is how grateful I am. Thank you, Paul.
if there's one thing (there's a lot more) that this channel has taught me is that to know myself.
Know my limitations (yes, I just might need a road flare to start a campfire) and knowing that I do have road flares in my car...and of course strive to learn amap to where I won't need them.
So much info on this channel alone.
Too bad the youth of today don’t share the same sentiment. Many are indoctrinated through schools now, or are so far into following the current “thing” that nobody stops to do their own research or check facts.
I’m in my early 30s, so I narrowly escaped what was coming. Still played outside as a kid, and didn’t have phone until high school. Glad I took the time to listen to ww2 vet stories and stories from older people growing up.
It doesn't have to be someone else shooting at you. Many years ago, a buddy of mine and I were shooting a Ruger 10/22 into an old, porcelain washtub that was laying on its side. While my buddy was shooting, I kept hearing what sounded like bees buzzing around my head, but it turned out to be the bullets zipping around that tub and coming back at us. We're lucky to be alive!
I know someone who shot a dinosaur tv monitor and dodged a ricochet. Don't shoot TVs or golf balls.
@@ThisTimeTheWorld Good advice! Thanks and be safe!!
With me it was an older TV set with the curved steel shield behind the (long gone) CRT. Never will forget the sound those bullets made.
@@eloiseharbeson2483 I know what you mean because I could hear them as I wrote my post.
I did something similar with my 10/22. Bullet hit a rock about 1/2cm below the dirt behind the target and came back at me. Not really much you could do differently there
I was in a small boat with a friend and bullets started hitting all around us. We could hear the direction from where they were coming and jumped overboard. Using the boat as a shield we pushed it to shore and ran up to my house. Turns out, a teenager across the lake was shooting at pigeons roosting on their boathouse with a .22 and the bullets happened to hit near us. Exciting times. Know what's behind your target.
Nice, I was thinking how I would react as Paul told the boating story, this seemed like the best option, glad nobody got hurt in that instance of negligence.
In my Canadian C.O.R.E. course, recommended BEFORE you get your firearms license, two kids came with their dad: 10 and 11 years old. They're taught the same as adults: "prove it safe", how to check the five types of long guns for emptying cartridges, and good basic best practices. The 10 year old was the only one with the perfect test score! Safety and good work habits start early.
@@user-pc8tb7hg1lHandlesRDumb That's why in Canada kids come with their dad or mom to take the gun safety course. You don't just hand a kid a firearm.
I’ve seen this exact comment on garand thumbs video
I have read many comments on the subject of people being careless with .22 LR firearms. There are a lot of people who underestimate the power, range, and lethality of firearms in caliber .22 LR
Perhaps we'll do a demonstration on this topic.
Sage advice old boy.
I was often put to "pull pits" at the rifle range as a young enlisted man.(european)
Having thousands of rounds hurled in your direction at the same time as you familiarize yourself with your weapon was extremely valuable to me when judging how close incoming rounds are hitting in proximity to you and others.
Most say you only have experience a near miss once and you never forget the sound instinctively.
You did a good job capturing this effect here.
Only the one that hits you sounds different.
@@wobblysauce Some say that you never hear the one that hits you ;-)
Advice*
@@gregkis happy?:p
@@stevecooper2873 I'm not talking about the one that hits you,I'm talking about judging how close impacting rounds hit to your position.
There definitely is a very distinct sound that a very close impact makes.
You kind of have to experience it first hand.
That being said,this video comes close and gives valuable advice.
Thank god Paul Harrell is making videos. I couldn't get to sleep
I was talking with a coworker about new years eve and what all he did the other day and he told me something interesting. He said that over the night people had shot guns in the air as is tradition for a lot of people to do. However his neighbors car had the back glass hit by a falling 9mm bullet. This wasn't out in the country, this was in a residential area of town. The ignorance of irresponsible gun owners makes us all look bad and judged harshly by the general public.
There's a video on yt about that happening irl to a lady who was gusting with two guys who were arguing. She collapsed and they wondered if she had a heart attack or the like. She died. The 9mm round that killed her was fired from about 1800 yds away and had been fired up in the air and out of the shooters simple exuberance. He got in major legal difficulties out of that negligence. Good to remember, what goes up must come down - best for us to remember that whenever we are shooting
Can't remember exactly where, but a couple of years ago a guy was shot by police in his own backyard over this exact same "tradition". Guy was firing a rifle, in the air, in town, multiple times.
Can't say it was a surprise ending.
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I lived in a medium sized city as a kid, and on new years my neighbor across the street in the cul-de-sac shot a shotgun in the air (I'm assuming birdshot) but he was drunk as a skunk 😂
Every Fourth of July the police where I live remind the public not to do this by remembering an7-year-old boy who was killed by a falling bullet.
This sort of moronic behavior has been going on for years. There have been a few interviews with people that think their bullets will just "burn up in the atmosphere"...........Unfortunately, they never seem to get hit by their own projectiles, it's always someone innocent that suffers for their lack of cognitive function.
Paul's knowledge is the only thing that scares Chuck Norris!
Chuck Norris checks his closet for Paul Harrell
@@Tadicuslegion78 HAHAHA! He'd better!
Being a part of the military, one of our graduation requirements for basic training was to complete a course where we crawl through a simulated battlefield while we're being shot at by a M240. Really the shots in this video dont do it justice, even if they were shooting probably 30 feet over my head, I could feel the pressure that each shockwave gave out in my ears (even wearing earpro) and sinuses. I could also see the glow of the tracers on the floor in front of me when they passed overhead which was pretty cool too!
when did your grandson go to boot? I was at MCRD San Diego back in 2017, and during the crucible, or any of the prac app events that involved crawling, the gunfire was simulated via speakers. We were never shot at while crawling like they reenacted in that Jarhead scene.
@@Bank_Da_Bread Grandson? Heh Ill assume you're talking about me. I went to Fort Leonard Wood.
@@KcTries lol my bad b. Wrote this comment around 6 this morning with very little sleep. Mistook graduation for grandson.
Intriguing they shot at you with live rounds
@@Bank_Da_Bread All good lol! And yeah it was super cool, one of the highlights of BCT for sure
@@Bank_Da_Bread it’s called the Night Infiltration Course and every soldier will complete it during basic training. They shoot like 30 feet over your head.
Paul is correct in regards to hunters knowing what gunfire coming at them sounds like, me and my father were out hunting many years ago and somebody over the hill decided to start taking target practice in their backyard. Obliviously lobbing bullets into the tree line about 75 yards to our left next to us. They were shooting a semi auto rifle and were shooting in large volleys. I'm just thankful he didn't change his aim or he might have found a shot coming back. Always know your target AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT.
My condolences on the standard-capacity magazines that were recently misplaced. Great video as usual.
I missed them as well
Boating safety in Oregon has really taken a downturn in recent weeks. Terrible losses. I'm just glad everyone has managed to swim ashore safely.
Did laws change in Oregon?
@@bhoward9378 nothing short of a miracle.
Oregon. They’re right there on the ocean, you know? Everybody gets out in a boat once in awhile.
Back in the late '80s or early '90s, I attended rangemaster School. One of the instructors was giving a presentation on negligent retention, specifically the legal ramifications of not maintaining accurate qualification records. One of the things that I will never forget was a comment he made. Should litigation occur, he asked would you like to be judged by 12 people who are too stupid to get out of jury duty. It's been at least 30 years and I can still hear those words like he spoke them yesterday.
Still seems preferable to being carried by 6 close friends or relatives, while children and wife are nearby that genuinely needed you alive and healthy.
Some citizens believe in the rule of law and choose to serve as jurors out of civic duty; with our individual actions we choose the society we wish to live in.
This doesn't seem relevant.
@@jackpippenstock1104 well said
@@troy3456789 not to me. It would be ok for my family and I won't have any spouse. Being the victim of the broken justice system is shameful and guarantees a long life of suffering.
I've been shot at four times over the years. Once accidentally, three times close to me to scare me away from the area I was legally in. This happens regularly in public land where locals "have claim" over fishing/camping/hunting spots. They want you to run away and tell your friends to avoid that area in the future.
Man, I would like to see a video on staying safe while camping alone or even with a loved one.
I have examples for two of the situations.
First one was my college professor. He was out during the rifle deer season creeping along a ridgeline looking down into some hollows. He hears a "Zip!" fly past him then sees an impact hit a tree just in front of him. He hit the deck and started yelling. There were two more "Zips" followed by rifle reports some distance away.
He continued yelling as he backed down below the ridge. The foliage was pretty thick so he was of the opinion they were shooting at something else totally oblivious that he was in the line of fire.
Second one, brother in law was a county policeman. He got called in on an incident during the bow season. Early in the day two bow hunters came across a bear hunter who was using a rifle. They exchanged pleasantries then went their separate ways.
Later that evening the bow hunters were setting up a remote camp back in a couple miles. One of them was in the tent when he heard his buddy greet someone. They must have been a bit of a distance away because the buddy made a louder greeting.
Then there was a boom followed by silence. Guy in the tent asked his buddy "Hey, what happened?" Silence...
Guy came out of the tent and found his buddy obviously deceased and way beyond any help. Fearing for his own safety he left most of the gear and booked it out of there and straight to a phone to call the police station.
Turns out the bear hunter had begun drinking that morning. By the time he came across the bow hunters he was well beyond a buzz. He somehow convinced himself that the bow hunters were invading on his bear hunt. So in a moment drunken rage he shot at the bowhunter with a 7mm Mag.
When he realized he actually hit the guy he panicked and took off. His wife turned him in after he tried to convince her to help him cover it up.
What a sad story.
He thought BOW hunters were intruding on a BEAR hunt? I feel bad for the guy who died so absolutely pointlessly by a moron.
Of course, alcohol had to be involved. No dearth of fools who mix it with firearms.
Alcohol is responsible for way too high a percentage of stupidity. Half this country is dangerously stupid sober. Drunk? Hopeless.
@@tibzig1 A lot more than alcohol too. Alcohol does not invent things, it lowers inhibitions. He had to already have been allowing bad mental patterns for them to run wild.
The Mythbusters did a good episode on the results of bullets fired upward. Their conclusion was that a bullet fired straight up would come back down without being able to cause much injury, but if the angle deviates from 90 degrees by much, the flight was ballistic and potentially deadly.
Makes sense, for it to fall down the bullet needs to have lost all the initial kinetic energy acquired from the powder's explosion (directed upward) to gravity (directed in the opposite direction). The speed of the should be the terminal velocity of the bullet which is now just a falling object.
it should be noted that it's very difficult to shoot directly up. It's not like a video game where you cannot look further up than straight up, you are very likely to not shoot at 90 degrees vertically
'Potentially deadly' as if it hit someone, or may or may not be deadly if it hit someone?
That are several cases where people have been killed by falling bullets. One was a 9mm shot in the air from over a mile a way...came down and killed the guy it hit.
@@applejacks971 Exactly, I can’t believe people are relying on MythBusters
@@applejacks971 Potentially deadly in the way that all bullets are when shot at the usual angle.
Don’t underestimate how “different” people can be way way out in the boonies (and I mean way out). I can absolutely see something like that as an idea of humor to some people I have met out where there’s nothing.
Great vide, as usual! A friend ( that I really, really trust) and I recently experimented with this. I stood behind the 4000 gallon water tank on my ranch and had my friend shoot within 5 feet of the tank (we set up a marker) at a target 150 yards away. Tried it with 22lr, 7.62X39 and Creedmore. The audible report, from a bullet breaking the sound barrier, eleven feet from you, is a VERY DIFFERENT sound than the muzzle report. More like a relaly big firecracker. After that, I really feel for the military guys who have post traumatic stress disorder.
That "crack" sound also warrants wearing earpro, even if you are far enough away from the shooter (in cases where bullets passing nearby is intentional & safe)
My largest worry about having to defend myself. Is not the physical capability to do so.
It is the corrupt authorities, and all the people from the league of ignorant, pedantic, doufuses that will be in the jury.
My thoughts exactly 👍
M'yes, shallow and pedantic indeed.
Exactly
I'd be worried the attacker had family or friends in positions of power to destroy my life as payback. Still better than the alternative of becoming a victim.
Yep
That doorway video case also is a good illustrator of how nice it is to have good neighbors. The man's neighbor was on local news after he was essentially exonerated by a grand jury (no charges were pressed, but none would be after a grand jury failed), saying that it was murder and how terrible it was. I'm glad I live somewhere where the neighbors would be more likely to offer their backhoe.
Don't have a backhoe, do have a pick up and a couple of shovels...
@@davidburroughs2244 my hoa keeps a roll of carpet for this very reason
for all we know that might just be an actor the "local" news used for propaganda purposes.
@@Oscar-ds2vb That is most likely the case, the news is 99.9..% scripted.
Yeah, I believe that POS neighbor was actually in the video near the end complaining about the man shooting this home invader. He was definitely had a problem with a dead home invader.
Great topic! My family and I were mushroom picking one year and had a hailstorm of bullets hitting the gravel road all around us. We were on private timber company property, but it had signage allowing public entry. That was adjacent to public state forest and BLM.
I yelled "stop shooting" and "hold your fire" repeatedly, but I don't think they could hear me over the gunfire.
We had to just run in the opposite direction. My guess is they were target shooting on top of a ridge with no backstop. But at the time it really seemed like they were shooting at us. Bullets were impacting the road not 20 feet from us.
I know of a handful of people who have been accidentally shot at while hunting, including my wife and my father-in-law, and a few people that have been intentionally shot at (on public lands).
And while I haven't had shots in my direction, I've experienced a few unexpected close range shots from hidden hunters who didn't know I was close (I was wearing orange every time, one time they were duck hunting and not wearing orange)
“Amalgamate”, your videos don’t just increase my firearms knowledge, but my vocabulary is also expanded significantly! Thank you Paul! 🙂
I think he should have said "consolidate" am I wrong? idk lol
He taught me that 'Germaine' is not just a singer's name....Ya...I'm small town....
Well Paul knows about fillings :)
Its easy to tell if its intentional by the dropping bodies next to me, also confirms the attacker is a bad shot.
I grew up in Brooklyn. Dunno about “in the field” but do know the difference between July 4 and New Years gunfire, and “holy shit, that dude is shooting at us….RUN!” LOL. When they are shooting at you, you can hear the bullet whizzing by, and usually a glass window breaking, or a ricochet, or a PLUNK sound when the round hits old bricks, or CLUNK if it hits some dude’s head. LOL
Great video Paul. Also, Garand Thumb did a video in late 2022 where he had someone )safely) fire rounds near him and his camera. Something like 5.56, .308 and .50 BMG at distances of 500, 800 and 1000 yd. Really good watch. Crazy to hear the rounds whiz by and then the report 1-2 seconds later.
Here it is: th-cam.com/video/8HdgyoGdyV0/w-d-xo.html
That was a cool video. I was at the range shooting steel with my 40 and 9 and made a bad shot which caused the bullet to come back and whiz by my head. Shit was scary as hell.
@@Daniel-rk3vflol I just clicked your link, and lo and behold, there was the talking balaclava!
Edit: okay well I dropped a link to a video by Administrative Results getting "shot at" with a German MG-34 but I guess that hyperlink was too offensive for lube tube, so the comment got taken down. smh.
th-cam.com/video/5nwO8-AitmI/w-d-xo.html
Garand Thumb and Paul live close enough to collaborate.
For anyone interested, Paul has excellent videos on concealment vs cover behind vehicles, wood cabins, beds, interior walls and so on. I highly recommend them as they are relevant to the first part of this presentation, hiding before attempting to signal.
Another piece of advice is to use "time, distance, and cover". Take time to size up the situation and get a better idea of what's happening; put distance between yourself and potential threats so they can't reach you as easily; use cover/concealment (and PPE) to protect or hide yourself. Of course, all to the degree possible in the situation
I had “B” happen to me when I was a teenager. It wasn’t hunting season and me and my friend were out in the open. It was some older guys trying to scare us. Not knowing how good of shots they were we obliged and took cover. After a few more rounds they left. We went the other way. They were shooting .22s. I’ve had out of state hunters , who weren’t supposed to be on the ranch my buddy and I were hunting on, not see either of us 50yds away. Our state requires orange , these guys were in camo. They didn’t know either one of us was there until we both yelled. They were walking with the wind so they already scared off all the deer. We were both standing in the open and they still had trouble seeing us. I also had a friend that was hunting black powder in Pennsylvania and was walking across an open meadow and was wearing orange. He got shot in the calf of the leg by another hunter who was only about 75 yds away. The other hunter said he thought he was a deer. Apparently not all hunters can see fluorescent orange either.
That's so true, why I stopped wearing orange while hunting and switched out to white. Have had a couple guys take shots at me while wearing orange but never with white so far.
These people that can't see jack shit should not even approach a gun let alone hunt. I refuse to believe that they are "accidents".. you can clearly observe through a scope if it's an animal or a human in camo. It's a ridiculous concept to me, so I don't understand. The way I see it, they see that opportunity to kill another human being and think to themselves "I can get away with this" and when they miss and when you yell they'll come to their senses..
There should be a colorblind test to require to get a hunting permit
@@Ravello1111111111111111111 colorblind and vision requirements. If you can’t see get glasses, if you still cant see your not in any capacity to shoot.
@@Jacob_Overby people who are too quick to shoot or just see part of a rack and don’t look to see if it’s another hunter carrying that rack on his back tend to use “ I didn’t see him” or “I thought he was a deer/elk” as an excuse. That’s why in our hunter education we teach people not to use a rifle scope to locate or identify game but use binoculars and clearly identify what you are about to shoot.
I'm one of those hunters who had an "indecent" while deer hunting in NE Texas. I was a teen in the 1960s when my dad was teaching me to hunt deer. Dad was a veteran of heavy combat in WWII in the S. Pacific. As we moved slowly through thick woods a loud rifle report followed the noise of bullet ripping through limbs right over our heads. Dad instantly dove onto the ground and I followed as I quickly as I could. Dad began to shout at the top of his lungs, "Hey, there are people over here." We heard no more and assumed it was a mistake. But it was also an event that I have never forgotten. Thankfully, all was safe. But we were on private family owned property. Assumably the shooter was trespassing and left with haste. As to "sound down range: Working the "pits" below a berm at a shooting range allows one to hear bullets 8 feet overhead, this great "practice" for hearing bullets downrange. ALSO: Thanks for your great videos!!!
Can imagine your Dad was extremely pissed. His combat experience and training kicked in. 😮
Pulling targets in the butts is great practice and experience about bullets going close by you.
I really hope you meant incident. I don't _want_ to know what indecent things happened with you and the deer.
I would have taken cover then readied myself to return fire if I came under fire on my own land. The first thing I WILL assume is that someone intends to kill me or a loved one......idiots with guns be warned.
@@taraswertelecki3786 You can't say that.
Thanks Paul for your service and your channel!!!👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🤝
Paul, you are the only person on TH-cam who I will listen to and watch the entire video from beginning to end. I ALWAYS learn something new from you! KUDOS to the best channel on TH-cam for general firearm education!!! Thank you Paul!
"Incoming fire has right of way"
I've been on the receiving end of incoming fire... when you're behind the berm it's exciting... when you're not, it's a little more than exciting. The decision of wether or not the return fire is not always cut and dried.
As always, insightful and educational.
When I was a kid, I was skidooing on our fields. There was a huge dump of snow overnight and the next day was clear and sunny out. As I was ripping along, I started seeing snow skipping up beside me. So as I come to a stop, some snow kicks up right in front of my skidoo just as I hear the report. Naturally, I high-tailed it out of there, zig-zagging all the way back home.
My father, uncles, and some cousins quickly strapped up and surrounded the area but only found tracks going to and from our fence line and the nearest road to our property. They were able to track the vehicle tracks all the way back to the nearest main highway where the tracks were lost in the other tire tracks. I think whoever it was, they were intentionally messing with me. Every time there is a good dump of snow on them fields, that memory of that day comes back.
Read this like 23 Skidoo and thought you just meant being a child but old timey
That seems very odd someone would've intentionally targeted a random kid. Did your family have enemies? That would make more sense. Still though, seems likely it was unintentional IMO.
@@clamum9648 I think you underestimate just how dumb AND cruel some people can be ...
That's a fuckin' nuts story if true.
@@clamum9648 you seem to be denying that monsters exist.
Thank you for your time and consideration for making this video Paul!
Absolutely one of your best yet. Considering such a random but realistic topic! Thankyou Paul!!
Me and some friends were bass fishing on a tiny private lake. It was overcast, and we could hear shotgun fire from a local gun range. It started to sprinkle intermittently. All of a sudden one of the raindrops struck me on the leg. It stung like hell! It was summer, so we thought it might be a bit of hail (late summer I northern Minnesota can have frozen precipitation any time without severe weather). Finally, putting the pieces together, we realized that we were being hit by birdshot and we rowed back to a safer spot to resume fishing.
That's my story of being shot by accident.
oh damn! At least you didn't catch any on your eyes or something.
I’ve been shot at 3 times in the US (not counting the sandbox or the rock pile): twice were only vaguely in my direction - one was an idiot shooting across the road at a common shooting range because he wanted a longer shot and the second was a ricochet from the guy next to me (that hit his truck, karma strikes again). The first, however, was most definitely on purpose: how do I know? I watched him step out from cover (at a high school) and shoot directly at me. Your point on “if the shots follow you it’s probably on purpose” rings very true for me - truly hostile fire from anyone other than an expert tends to be pretty obvious, an expert on the other hand will simply hit you with the first shot, so you don’t have to worry about determining intent.
Who shot at you at school?
At school? Was this part of a larger event or?
@@infantjones chicago
Ricochets are wild. Only had one come back one time and it hit my dad in the leg. We heard the plink of the steel target then "zip, smack" and my dad sits down on the ground grabbing his leg. We immediately freaked out thinking he caught a full bullet but thank god it was just the separated jacket. I've taken target plate angling a lot more seriously since day.
@@crazysilly2914 Lol. You know Chicago isn't even in the top 60 most dangerous cities in the US in 2022, right? Of course you don't, you one of *those* people. /spit
I enjoy how you break things down into logical steps and situational differences. Keep up the great work and thank you for giving us so much to think about.
All excellent advise-----from someone in that position. It is scary as all H+++ when they whiz by you.... Especially when you are on your own property...
I'm not a camper or hunter. My several experiences of gunfire are in built-up environments. People's reactions are first freeze, then run/take cover if it's nearby. But then curiosity sets in. Heads appear in windows, above walls and people look in the direction of the gunfire. I've had the same feelings of curiosity but told myself to stay put. Late one Sunday evening in suburbia prolonged, rapid gunfire started. I heard bullets striking houses nearby. I looked in the general direction and saw other people doing the same. There was nothing to see. Then I saw people intentionally walking towards the gunfight, very strange.
Being an "older" citizen I can attest to the fact that it is much more difficult to get out of trouble than to get into it! If someone says get off my property I have a gun you best be moving your butt Pronto! Also remember the police are not your friends they are supposed to gather the facts but a lot of times just take the easiest way to close the case if that means you're guilty in their eyes well enough said!! Great subject matter Paul thank you sir clear consice and thought provoking! 👍
They take the route which is easiest to oppress.
I'm really surprised after the last two years especially. That peoppe haven't opened their eyes to what the police really are. The red coats were the british policing forces of the day. Loook whst men praised for founding this country did to them.
Try citing where in our constitution that we the people gave government the authority to police society. You can't. Because if government had authority over you. Then you wad never intended to be free. And no, the 10th amendment doesn't give the state the authority to give itself authority over me. People should really read jeffersons, Maddison, and almost.eveey founders writings about self governance. The lie is far larger than most could ever begin to imagine. We were all born into tyranny
I'm 30, ex army and I currently live with family. I may be right or wrong but personally I wouldn't have done anything different. The guy was fore warned and still violently persisted on breaking and entering. There's no way to tell if he had a weapon and unarmed people can be dangerous too. Once I've fully warned you in my mind the consequences fall on you. You know what's gonna happen if you continue so if you choose to it's on you. The law may disagree but that's that's my rules of engagement as a civilian. My family's safety comes first. Lucky I live in a state with castle doctrine.
@@PartTimeGoblinSlayer what is the reasoning for cops and puppets always needing to use logic fallacy? It doesn't make your reasoning any more valid then the people who are obviously far more intelligent than you are. You are not wrong. But there is zero point to try to give your point validation. Especially when that validation let's anyone with a brain know that you are not very bright.
Hell, if you spent any time executing goat herders. You killed them reguardless of the circumstances. "Rule of engagement " doesn't make it just. It makes you dim for believing you were there for a just reason.
@@PartTimeGoblinSlayer I also live in a state with castle doctrine, and I realize my porch and yard are not included. But one step inside the door and that’s all it takes.
Maybe so. In some places (Such as Maine) its traditional for hunters to wander on land to hunt so long as it's not "Posted" no trespassing. If a man happens to walk across my land, well so what? As long as he didn't cause trouble or steal something, why should I respond as a prick?
I really enjoy your delivery style Mr. Harrell! Great presentation!!
So well said, throughout! Thank you for making this video, Paul!
Got plinked at once in Afghanistan from far enough away that I couldn't hear the muzzle blast over background noise, just the zip and buzz of the bullets, and it surprises me how close that .22LR sounded to how I remember the 7.62 sounding.
As always, great video. Thanks, Paul.
If you think about it, size of bullet is not much different so the sound is similar
@@clotz1820 proportional to a human body, they're all quite tiny projectiles. the speed is the danger
@@clotz1820 size is very different. if it is a 7.62x39 then it is about 3 times heavier than a 22lr. if it is a 7.62x54r it is about 3.5 - 4 times heavier than 22lr.
@@richardlooch2109 Are you sure everything is not the same size as an AR 15?
This has all to do with speed of the bullet. It was most definitely 7,62x39 and at distances so long you don't even hear the muzzle report, this bullet is travelling so slow it don't make a sonic boom crack. Every projectile, regardless of the shape and size, makes some kind of whizzing sounds then. Supersonic projectiles also makes them, but the whizzing is masked by the loud sharp crack of the sonic boom. If it was Mosin-Nagant and it's 7,62x54r with MUCH heavier and faster bullet, you would hear not only loud crack, but also whizz and thud delayed by speed of sound. Proof is film on YT titled "Shooting Rifle Towards Camera At Long Range Full Video" by Cody'sLab.
Thank you for another great video.
I live in one of the "nicer Detroit neighborhoods". That being said, we have had quite a large number of shootings and murders. I mentioned to a coworker once that I frequently hear gunshots at night, and I know they are gunshots. They reply that I'm only hearing firecrackers. I have to tell them what I heard are the same firecrackers that killed my childhood friends just 50 feet from my home a few years earlier. 🙁
my four years in the SWATS of Atlanta taught me the same thing, as did my classmates coming to class on clutches because they caught a stray.
@@darthawesomness Maybe they were just hit with fireworks.
There are no "Nicer areas" in the hell hole known as Detroit
Yes sir, there is no mistaking the consistent gunfire in midnight daytwah. Moved to what was considered by locals to be a bad area in another state and feel safer than I ever did through my childhood and early adulthood in the murder mitten.
Another excellent video rationally discussing a scenario that happens with frightening frequency.
Thank you, Paul.
Thank you for more information to add to the vault. You do an outstanding job with your presentations.
I just turned 48 and I live with extensive Emphysema and COPD. I can’t tie my boots without losing my breath. My fighting days have passed me by. I have to take care of myself effectively and efficient. I Pray 🙏🏼 I never have to find a situation that requires it. God Bless us all with Protection and Safety! ❤️🇺🇸🖖🏼
“God created man but Sam Colt made them equal”
Disclaimer, I’m pretty much of an agnostic but still love this quote.
3:18 - my own personal story about something like this. I'm an Archaeologist, and a couple of years ago I was doing a survey for a planned new power infrastructure installation. The land we were surveying on we had permission to be on, but the abutting plots of land were owned by people who (I was told at the time) were very hostile to this development, and had even harassed other crews in the same general area. Whilst we were digging, we suddenly heard the sound of rifle fire (I assumed at the time something like .300blk or 6.5 Grendel) and the very noticeable whirring of bullets close to us. Our crew chief immediately had us pull out, but the shooting continued (and the bullets seemed to stay the same distance away from us the whole time, even as we were moving), even after our crew chief repeatedly hollared at whoever it was to cease fire and that whoever it was was endangering us, until we hit the paved road our crew trucks were parked on and began to pack up to head to another area. Someone shooting carelessly without a backstop or concern for what's downrange? Someone trying to scare us off the land? Who's to say.
Great presentation Paul, Thank You
Thank you once again Mr. Harrell for the sage advise and for giving us plenty to think about if this were to happen.
There was a kid (maybe very young teen) on a neighboring piece of property who was firing in an indiscriminate manner, and some of the bullets went across my property behind and parallel to my house. I can tell you that the sound was most certainly "different" than the sound of firing AWAY from you, and I have done plenty of shooting at ranges in the past. I didn't hear the "whiz" of the bullets as they were just far enough away that the house masked that. However, there was little guessing that something wasn't right in this case. That is the one instance where I called the police about gunfire. Where I live, people shoot on private property, no big deal, I do it, too. However, I have a backstop and there is no place in my normal direction of fire that may have people at any reasonable distance (miles of space as confirmed by both eyeball and using online maps). That kid was just popping shots rapid fire in their backyard. I don't think there were any parents home when he did it. By the time the police did come out and talk to me, the parents had come home. The police then went and talked to the neighbors. That way maybe a couple of years ago now, and it hasn't been repeated. So, never count out sheer dumbassery in a situation.
In Florida you can be prosecuted for "trespassing with a weapon" if your bullets go onto someone else's property. I don't know of anyone down here that would recognize three shots as a distress signal. Plenty of shooting all year long and most hunting shotguns are limited to three shots.
I cannot even imagine the mindset it would take to think "I'm going to prank that guy buy shooting at him".
Great video, I work in the timber industry and many people have stories of being shot at, usually by jumpy hunters
Outstanding Presentation, Thank You, Paul
I have a few relevant stories, but only one is personal. Two were at public gun ranges.
Some friends were at a range, and while changing their targets, some guys pulled up in a pickup truck, and started shooting at their targets while they were still downrange. They yelled at the guys in the pickup truck, and the threw their guns back into the truck and drove off really fast.
My personal story was kind of similar. This was during a cease fire at the range. People were down range changing targets, the red cease fire lights were flashing. Two guys came in without checking in, set up, and started shooting in the next lane over from mine. I heard what I described as a zipping sound... although the description of a hiss is probably more appropriate, and saw the impact in the berm behind my target. The range master called out over the PA, and came over to confront the two guys, who picked up their guns and ran back to their vehicle. The range master took their license plate number as they drove off and I believe contacted the police.
The final was very different. A friend went out to one of the local fish and wildlife areas to hunt. He'd been doing this for several years in the same spot. Some people in a blind a ways off started shooting in his direction. They were angry and trying to scare him off. It turned out that a hunting club had made an arrangement with the fish and wildlife area to hold raffles for hunting areas. The club didn't make any of the public announcements they were supposed to about the raffles, and never posted about it at the area sign-in area. The people who had been drawn were angry because there were intruders on what they thought was supposed to be their exclusive hunting area. The hunting club was actually trying to make the area exclusive for their members, which is why they never announced anything. Their agreement was voided after the first week, after several incidents similar to this being reported.
Tldr
@@DinoNucci Ritalin. Get some.
@@filonin2 man comments "tldr" on a Harrell video and your first thought wasn't that he's joking? maybe you should go take some prescribed meth
Just more proof there aren't enough asylums and state supported living centers to house all of these people.
in europe get shot at by careless or pissed up hunters seems to be the norm over there especially in france . in the UK we can only shoot on private land .
Paul is absolutely right about what can happen if you have to defend yourself. The shooting of the ex-boyfriend occurred in Sidney, Ohio. We are a Stand Your Ground/Castle Doctrine state. Both dad and daughter were interviewed, and the grand jury refused to indict. But the incident made it to media outlets from NY to CA, and pretty much every story I've seen (before Paul's) paints dad as a villain. The 22 Y/O daughter stated her dad saved her life, for which even she's taken grief. And of course local LE is being portrayed as protecting a murderer. Mainstream news networks speak about the dad laughing during the police interview (they teach you in interview classes to try to lighten the mood and put the subject at ease), and the Sun of London states that Dad "gunned him down".
Ya know I’ve seen that story several times and never realized it happened in Sidney. I live in Dayton,that’s not very far from me lol
The POS broke in, after being warned even. Anybody who sides with criminal is retarded.
@@itsamk18-ish I’ve got a buddy who just moved to Sidney, crazy honestly I didn’t know it was there.
Law of Self Defense did a good video breaking down the legals of the situation, worth a watch if you’re interested.
Leave it to the media to get it wrong. I’ve been on the receiving end of inaccurate reporting, the media doesn’t give a shit about facts.
Let's be honest, the Sun is tabloid trash and everyone knows it. Lending any credence to tabloids is illogical.
Your videos are always great Paul, they never let down. You seem a very reasonable and smart man to me, thanks for the videos.
Interesting concepts, keeping it fresh and always original. God bless
Paul Harrell is so extremely articulate on every subject matter he covers showing wisdom beyond years of living, This Man is a Legend a Genius a Scholar a Teacher that gives a broader perspective to what every subjects matter he covers!
In My opinion His channel is the best Gun channel on TH-cam bar none. This younger generation that will take over our world needs Your values and wisdom so much now more than ever Thank You for all You do Paul God Bless You
Kinda gay NGL
Yeah
Myself and a few of my family together hunt deer on a decent sized piece of land that is enough to spread out and, emphasizing everyone being very clear about each other’s locations and fields of fire, hunt for years without incident and make many good memories. Last year my brother and I were leaning against an oak on the last night of rifle season, and with our tags still valid for archery/late doe seasons we opted to pass on a doe about 50 yards to our left that continued on behind us out of sight. No more than 30 seconds after its passing, we heard the unmistakeable report of a rifle behind us from the direction of where the doe likely went after we lost sight of it. In hindsight we both acknowledged hearing the crack of the bullet passing near us, but whether it was shock or obliviousness we didn’t react immediately. Then, a second shot a few seconds later (and much closer) sent us simultaneously to the ground yelling something to the effect of “hey don’t shoot, we’re over here!” A third shot somehow closer than the second then made me feel the most helpless I ever have. We just laid there on the ground behind the tree, and I eventually called my uncle who was on the other side of the property. He came flying down the adjacent county road to see what was happening. Turns out a local idiot who didn’t have permission on any of the land in the area was driving around “taking pot shots at does” as he described it when my uncle caught up with him, uncle subsequently giving him the chewing of a lifetime for shooting into woods he knows we hunt on the last night of rifle. Point being, you can do everything right but you can never eliminate the wild card that is other people’s bad intentions, lack of awareness, or plain stupidity. Thanks Paul for another great video.
Very very helpful Thank You...I like the pause and going forward...You Rock Paul Harrell! Always enjoy!
Love your videos Paul. You cover each aspect of the topic thoroughly.
Years ago I was squirrel hunting on private land that very few hunted on (it belonged to a friend of mine and he mostly bird hunted on it but allowed me and a few others to small game hunt on it when he wasn’t bird hunting) i was sitting under a tree in a rather heavily forested and brushy area when I heard some rustling a ways off. As I sat there the rusting got closer and louder. Try as I might I could not see what was causing the noise. It didn’t really sound like a man but then it didn’t sound like an animal either. The rusting would start and stop at random and seemed to get closer but then would seem it may be getting farther away. It seemed to be coming towards me then would move to my left. After about 10 minutes or so of this all of a sudden I hear a 12 gauge go off in my direction and a load of shot hit the tree I was sitting under about 10 feet above me and a squirrel fell in my lap dead. I hollered hey there is someone here!!! Who ever it was made haste out of there faster than Jessie Owens. I never could see who it was but am sure it was a trespasser who wasn’t supposed to be there. I told my friend about it and he said he knows people come on his land and poach but couldn’t catch them red handed. That really scared me.
Paul: *enters field exercise*
The universe: did someone say shenanigans?
Hi Mr Paul. Amazing explanation and video. Thanks you.
Your videos just get better and better Paul. Thanks for your wisdom.
Brilliant, Paul. I’m a retired LEO and agree completely. Yes, deer hunting I had experienced the sound of the slug whizzing by and it was definitely uncomfortable. But, it is something I won’t forget. Keep them coming. Refreshingly intelligent presentation. Thank you, Sir.
Appreciate his effort, but it really didn't capture the sound well from my experience. As he said, maybe most the problem is my speakers. Though I think more distance would have helped.
Wow close call
@@heartysteer8752 I heard a couple ricochets but nothing else except the report
Ah, you haven't really experienced anything until you hunt in SE OH. Akronites plague the woods....Some people just shouldnt be allowed to hunt.
@@sethtenrec Yeah, he needed to be back 300 yards or so to clearly hear the bullet itself.
That's easy. Intentional gunfire always sounds more motivated and determined
Been watching for a few years now as always a great presentation/video. Keep up the good work Paul.
Anytime i see the duration over 30 minutes, man it makes my day.
As someone who has worked in law enforcement, and later leaving the law enforcement field I can say this. What you might do now with your cell phone is not relevant to an event that happened in say the 1990's or even the 1980's when we all carried bricks for cell phones, and camcorders was about the size of a boom box. Now the last thing, Paul is absolutely right about having ample evidence to back your story. And is why people like me put all kinds of security camera's, game camera's and such up around our place so we can catch poachers, acts of vandalism and intentional shootings.
Living in a surveillance state is a two edged sword. You might want to be careful with that.
@@donshekn9114Being careful won’t change living under surveillance just who has access to it.
cameras
@@Klein-Morretti People who choose to live in surveillance states. those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Never point your security cameras at anything you don’t want seen.
Important safety tip, Paul! Thanks for sharing!
The difference is night and day, I could hear the zing of the rounds being picked up by the mic. Thank you for making these videos, being informed is half the battle. My Mrs and I have 15+ acres of woods and hilly terrain I do alot of walking during fall and winter on our property for fun and exercise. I have caught a couple people hunting on the property, luckily they haven't ever had an attitude about being told they're on private property. But to be safe I always carry my trusty S.A.A. in a western single drop rig or my AR-15. I would much rather have them and not need them than the other way around, you never know about people and their intentions. You Sir are Top Shelf. Subscribed
In that home defense video, the neighbor came to investigate an active shooting scene. You can tell he lived in a protective suburbia cocoon all his life and doesn't recognize the danger he is in.
That man was the perfect "local yokel."
I saw that, he was a proud member of the League of Doofuses.
My wife and I were talking about the defensive shooting featured in the epilogue of this presentation. Both our first blush reactions were "well, duh. Dad was totally right," but then we got to thinking, and I thought I'd share it.
I think that there is a lot of strong opinion on both sides of the gun debate. I found it ironic that California and New York (which feature plenty of anti-gun sentiment) take the stance they do, since there's at least the popular belief that so many gun-related crimes happen there. However, I want to discuss two important hypotheses:
A: Many people, even in traditionally well-armed areas, remain ignorant regarding the functioning of firearms. They don't know how safe they are when handled properly. They don't know how difficult it is to aim correctly. They don't seem to understand that a gun isn't a magic wand that automatically kills whatever it's pointing near. Essentially, people lack information on the subject. That's where creators like this channel are so important.
B: The gun community has to learn, as a whole, to speak respectfully about the power guns have. Guns have a well-deserved reputation as deadly weapons. So many people are so full of bluster that it drives people into the opposing side of the gun debate simply out of shock. I hope I'm never in a position to use lethal force in defense of my life. I very nearly have been, but the police arrived and de-escalated the person trying to get into my house. But I was ready if I had to take matters into my own hands. I remember how sad and shaky it left me, because I knew I might have to be responsible for the ending of a human life. Some might label that feeling as cowardice, but I don't. The gun community must learn to take guns seriously and to respect the shock that even justified loss of life represents.
Another great conversation.
Awesome video, especially loved the second half.
One of the most disconcerting things I ever saw regarding this topic was at a small county airport in southern Indiana, when I was a young fellow. Upon visiting this airstrip while accumulating hours as a young pilot, I had an occasion to walk around and discovered a low-wing Piper airplane that had a bullet hole through the fuselage. It had passed cleanly through the fuselage; entrance hole on the underneath side of the aircraft and exit hole out the top side. The shot was DIRECTLY in line with the left pilot’s seat, only about four feet behind it. 😬😳
yikes, that is terrifying and infuriating
In my younger years I hung out with some country boys out in Idaho who would go out every Saturday night to plink at the airplanes with their 22's. At the time I was dumb and thought maybe it would be fun, I never participated but heard plenty of stories they told. I cant imagine being in a Cessna minding my business as I see hole appear in the fuselage.
I owned three different airplanes. All had bullet holes. Americans are too stupid to own guns.
Lucky they didn't lead enough. I saw the same thing on a bus at camp. Someone blew out the window right behind the driver while the bus was empty and on its way to the camp. Intention was clear, trajectory was fortunately not.
@@ScottLovenberg that's more like premeditated murder, at least with airplanes is probably just some idiots wondering if they can hit it.
Paul.... This was a great presentation... Thank You.. I have been shot at both Intentionally and Not.... Neither is good.. Being retired a few years just hearing those bullets rip through those pine trees gave me goose bumps....Really brings it back... Glad you made the point of You Better Be Right!
No matter if your a LEO or Civilian.. Thanks again..
If nothing else, Paul convinced me to carry a whistle any time I’m walking in the woods. But I learned a lot more…
I hope you also carry a gun for predators, while attacks are few they do happen & some predators walk on 2 legs. I know a woman who hiked a lot had a man harass her and follow her to her campsite at night, in spite of this alarming occurrence I still can't convince her to carry a gun.
We can tell that this was a tough presentation for you, Paul. Thank you.