@@yogxoth1959 It really depends on what wheel you have. Most commercial wheels like G29, T300, etc. can safely be used at 100% FFB, while something like Jimmy's direct drive wheel *will* break your wrists.
Until today I wasn't able to understand what was going on and why Samir was breaking the car. He ignored everything and it seemed like he took some drugs before the race 🤣 I would like to know the background story of this sad video. I am so sad for the co-driver because he was doing his job pretty well... 😥 Sorry for my strange English it isn't my main language 😅🙏
People always point out how good Jimmy must be to commentate and drive so well at the same time. This ability really shines while he's flying through a rally stage and talking over the pace notes.
Faith restored in this game... With the announcement of VR support coming and seeing that the physics is actually better this time, I'm finally ready for something to take DR 1's place on my pc.
@@Evolver10 what a silly thing to say, if there is to little content that you can memorize the stages, which was the case for DR1, then you are not driving a rally.
RBR obviously has one advantage as that is modding. However, comparing RBR’s base game to DR 2.0, 2.0 absolutely blows it away. No contest. Even with RBR’s mods DR still has the advantage in terms of overall quality and polish.
Quality over rbr world? In what? Physics? No rbr world is better. Quantity and quality of PS? No, rbr is better with mods, it has also Real Life stages, some are over 20km . I was hoping for a big step forward but codemaster is only about money nowadays. 30 euros for 2 dlcs of dirt 1 special stages? Recycled montecarlo and Sweden?
Miko Marczyk (Polish rally champion, Skoda Motorsport driver, sim racing enthusiast and world record holder on SS Zagórze in Dirt 2.0) commented on realism of the two. He wrote that according to him RBR is still the most realistic one. For him iRacing or AC are real simulators, but it's a lot harder to produce a serious one for rallying environment. The grip on gravel in Dirt games is much higher in real life (he was like 4s / km quicker than in real life). The stages are not close to being bumpy enough, on the second run on the stage is like a battlefield, you have to aim for the ruts, which have a huge impact on how the car behaves and in games it's a lot less noticeable (even in RBR,). He also wrote that the Dirt Rally team did a good job producing a balanced game as far as realism and accessibility is concerned. He also wrote that the FF on default was too strong for the R5 car and he had to reduce it to make it closer to reality.
The thing is, DiRT Rally 2.0 could be 100% accurate and it still wouldn't matter to a lot of people in the simracing community because they played RBR first therefore they think it's always the best. That's just how the simracing community is.
I was a dirt fan back when it came out. Even before that,colin mcrae 04. Later I heard about rbr and gave it a go. I did not play rbr before dirt and I think rbr is better than dirt. It's not whether you've played which title first. It's just a matter of which one is best; period.
I'm not sure about it. I think I still live in era of Colin McRae games when there were plenty of stages (I miss special stages) from asphalt in Europe, dirt in Australia to snow roads in Northern Europe. Since first Dirt game I feel there is lack of content or rather there is too much of it (rallycross, rally, gymkhana etc.) that from outside it looks a lot, but when we start playing it quickly become repetitive. For me it really a huge issue, because even great number of cars, outstanding graphics and impressive handling can't change that feel of emptiness after hour or two.
Yeah, for me 5-6 countries are to low. 10-12 it would be far better. I would like to drive in: Sweeden, Monte Carlo, Corsica, Argentina, Greece, Portugal, Walles, Australia, Poland, Sardegna, Germany and the most in Finland. Game with this calendar would be for me perfect.
It's not about countries. In Colins you had 5-8 different countries which each has 6-10 unique stages. In Dirt Rally you have similar number of countries but there is only two unique stages that was cut in smaller pieces.
It's about quality or quantity. Dirt 4 offered a generic system that made stages on the spot. Almost endless variation of stages. I however extremely prefer DR2, because even though there are not tons of stages (in my opinion enough though), because they are of a very high quality, there are various conditions to ride them in and they are difficult to master. Took me hours and hours to get on the 1st spot of the global leaderboards of Jezioro Lukie (Group A, Poland) but I loved it. DR2 gives feels authenthic. DR2 made me buy a racing seat. DR2 is a gem.
The calls issue was present also in DiRT Rally, and I never was able to find a proper timing for the calls. Hope this one is better regarding this aspect. Can't wait to download mine!
Jimmy, it would be absolutely fantastic if you could do a serious career mode in this. What I mean by serious? I mean: with the commitment level like that of ILMS or something like that. Minimum of speaking during a stage, so that you could actually focus on the pacenotes and let us hear them, too :). Don't get me wrong: I love your narration, I really do. But when playing a rally game it just doesn't make any sense and takes out a lot of fun of watching it. Contrary to what some racing afficionados might think, rallying is actually not about throwing the car right and left on the road, just trying to survive and carry some speed: it's about committing to corners based on a rough idea of what's coming. Without the driver listening to pacenotes, this is very messy and gets to be tedious to watch. I'm not referring to this particular video, because I understand its intended purpose, but I'm talking about your potential future videos. Perhaps I'm alone in this suggestion, but maybe there are more people like me, who would be waiting for every new episode of a career mode series in which you would drive the rallies in a real rally simulating mode: there's plenty of time before and after a stage to do some quality narration. Love what you're doing, Jimmy! Keep it up!
couldnt agree more sir... i also would like to see some video of jimmy playing dirt rally, while listening to the pacenotes also very love to see the footwork as well... it would be nice tough...
Nice to see Jimmy picked one of my favorites, the 240Z is such a pretty little car. This may be an odd request but I'd like to see a stage which includes the car crashing and how it handles afterwards. Just don't do it with this one!!
The cars still seem to be too light weighted in DR2.0... compared to RBR NGP6 physics, which feels correct for me. I discovered the whole RBR stuff 3 weeks ago, got used to NGP6 and now I am addicted to these physics and the weight transfer. Perfect in VR. Not the best grafix, but OK in the most natural stages. Oh the stages are sooo real. Have a try!
can't chance the weight cars as the setting in cfs files u can't edit them i tried it shame now all dlc are locked as well no modding in future cody sux now.
Thanks for the preview Jimmy! This looks amazing. You completed that stage while talking and ignoring pace notes...in a rwd car in the rain. You are a beast. I'm looking forward to playing on the 22nd! Thanks for the great content keep it up.
Hey jimmy, I am in no way a rally driver but I've done some running on the dirt roads in Georgia at pretty decent speeds. 50-60mph. Ruts; if you absolutely can not avoid them then order of operations are as follows. 1. Cross rut at sharpest angle possible. If impossible. 2. Place the rut on inside of turn on inside of the tire. Rut on driver side, keep it on driver side and Visa versa. While doing this you should always look for ways around it but it is always good to attack the rut at it most predictable point. For bad ruts it's almost always better to go around/cut. I use to live in the farm lands on dirt/ orange clay road. The tractors left huge car totalling ruts if it rained. Like rip the a frame right out if you hit it wrong. We use to race the dirt roads in old beaters. 83 oldsmobile, caprice, box Chevys.
I'm a beginner at this, started playing Dirt 2.0 Today and wow is it fun!! Definitely something to get used to, and doing some research does help a lot. Highly recommended.
Personally I found that the Group B cars in DR1 were dangerous because you would go into space if you hit a slight bump from the huge amount of speed you could get though them, rather than the cars themselves actually being difficult to drive in terms of actually controlling the car
I'm a tester on the forums, and we're chatting about the tarmac. It's still not 100%, and sometimes the ass end seems to float around a little bit, but overall it's massively better than DR, and even though like Jimmy here I don't love the FFB it's more consistent across cars and surface types. Early on in the testing we had some prototype builds and from what all of us recall, the FFB and tarmac were better then than now, so we're not sure what changed. I guess to put it simply, I'd say DR tarmac was like... 50%. 60 if you're being generous. DR2 is more in ~90% range. It's not on AC levels or anything, but it's a massive improvement still.
I’m loving everything about this game: New locations for new iconic stages like DiRT Rally, new cars with classic liveries from rally history, Phil Mills as a co-driver for the first time since WRC 4 on PS2, and I am ready to give this a drive on Friday morning!
Can't wait to see more DR content, I found and subscribed to your channel because of a DR career playthrough in the little Fulvia that could back in 2015 maybe? Been a fan ever since, so amazing that now you're getting the game early, what progress mate, well done!
I hope as much flavour from DiRT 4 is retained as possible, specifically the in-engine menus/screens and team management/customisation. That flavour doesn't impact the core gameplay but it makes me feel like I'm part of something exciting that draws crowds of people, and wasn't just racing for racing's sake like DiRT Rally and many other physics focused racing games. I'm still waiting on a rally game that simulates more of the real life experience, such as driving the transitional stages in between special stages and to/from the service area, nursing any damage and performing any field repairs that would be allowed. I noticed here thay they mixed 70s Group 4, 80s Group 4 and RWD Group A into a single class, which would be about as fair as racing an F2004 against a Lotus 25.
I like the main menu system a lot more, it's cleaner and easier to navigate. You still have the sort of "in game menu" at the service stations between events. Team Management is... sort of there? I haven't been able to buy any new engineers yet, but the game gives you the co-driver, a head engineer, and standard engineer that seem to have no contract periods. I don't know about any ones you can "buy" later yet. They do all have things you can upgrade on them though. There's also the drive through finish to the marshal, which I aim directly for. If you drive straight into him you don't actually have to stop and you don't get any damage or penalties. XD Otherwise it's pretty similar with a service station every few events where you can do tunings, repairs, and tire changes.
Since Richard Burns Rally I haven't played a good, realistic rally game. My test is: start the game, try to drive and if I don't crash in one of first three curves, game is not good. It took me like 50 repeats on one stage of Richard Burns to have it perfect. With Dirt series it was one dissapoint after another, you could virtualy finish the game without crashing once. And I can tell you, if you are not experienced with a high powered car, you will crash in Mitsubishi Lancer Evo on first few curves on a real rally stage. Seeing that Jimmy didn't crash once during this stage, I am inclined to have doubts about this game.
You mentioned a different video about 30 seconds in, though you didn't link it in the notes below. Easy way to funnel more views for your videos, if you'd do that when mentioning your other videos in a new one! Thanks for the reviews, been looking forward to 2.0!
Stoked to hear you like it Jimmy! You’re definitely a yard-stick for me in terms of whether I get 2.0...sounds like a winner! Would be great to see you drive the Audi Sport Quattro please!! Cheers, Tim (Auckland, New Zealand)
I just recently got this game for myself, but I'm unfortunately limited to just an xbox controller. I'm finding it super hard to be able to enjoy the game, or even feel competitive as a result. perhaps one day I can fully enjoy this game with a sim setup.
I bought Dirt Rally on PS4 yesterday (there's a deal going). It feels fine with just a controller. You will lack the precision of the wheel (mostly on icy track - Sweden and Monte Carlo - ) but I drive RWD and steering is more about brake and gas and you will not miss a lot.
Like others said... Just practice more. Xbox one controller does a great job of haptic feedback and steering. I've spent like 100s of hours on dirt rally with an Xbox one controller and i enjoyed the hell out of it. Also.. I could beat players with wheels.
If you are are wondering if there will be more cars/locations don't worry, they have already confirmed that there will be post launch contents, in example in the first wave there will be Monte Carlo, Sweden and Germany (plus some other cars, you can find all the info on the blog of Codemasters)
But aren't those just ports from DR1? That is just so lazy to sell those as full price DLC again instead of making new stuff. I've played those enough...
@@WhiteHawk77 I'm a bit salty too that they make DLCs when in reality the base game should have at least a couple of more maps. Still, it's just 20 euros more when you pre-order so now I'm tempted...
are you kidding? all the first season dlc is locations we already had in dirt rally 1? thats so fucking lazy. tbh I'm not thrilled with the amount of content that comes with this game, in some ways it seems worse than dr1
For me 5-6 countries are to low. 8-10 it would be far better. However if they add 3 countries in season 1 and as they say somethting same in season 2, is it possible that there will be 12 events in calendar? I would like to drive in: Sweeden, Monte Carlo, Corsica, Argentina (or Greece), Portugal, Walles, Australia, Poland, Sardegna (or Germany) and the most in Finland. Game with this calendar would be for me perfect, so i cant wait for few more countries.
If you wouldn't mind, could you give RBRCZ's NGP5.92 physics a shot and take a run through one of France's stages and compare it to DR2.0's tarmac physics? I'm aware they're somewhat inferior, I want to know by how much you think it is!
@@uksimracer of course and we are just a few in Italy, or how could I make those suppositions?. It is a nice and well polished game. Gravel feels nice but tarmac is lacking, as always. Less than 10 hours and you know all the stages. Rbr with mods (original it suck) is probably unbeatable thanks to mods. If dirt2.0 will accept mods it can be a close battle in the future
@@LorenzoClara97 RBR? "Still" the king? no for sure, RBR is very good but on tarmac it's too grippy, the car is very agile and very fast not loosing grip when you force it, planted to the ground unless you use ALOT of handbrake, i mean this with the R5's & WRC cars
Dirt Rally - 10/10 Best modern rally experience Dirt 4 - I'm not even mad, I'm just disappointed Biggest letdown of my life. Now I'm hyped for Dirt Rally 2.0, but the fear it doesn't hold up to expectations is killing me inside.
It depends on what you would qualify as a disappointment. I've seen people complain about the stages looking boring and generic... I'm not sure what that means, and I'm inclined to disagree. It's better than Dirt 4, and Dirt 4 fixed things with DR, despite people not wanting to believe it.
@@horseradish843 Compared to Dirt Rally, it has some really repetitive stages, and the extra vehicles such as trucks handle very poorly with very limited variety in the stages.
@@horseradish843 The hate is for no good reason. I swear. Look into what people actually say regarding all the hate and you'll find no substance. It's an EPIC game and can offer limitless fun for anyone who plays it :)
80mph into a tree gave me a terminal damage. I haven't messed with the hardcore mode, and for some reason it's absent from career. They're not as strong as DR, but they aren't that brittle either.
I like that you bring the car to a full stop now after the stage. I always hated the balls to the wall through the finish then likely die during the slow-mo mentality.
@@o00nemesis00o then stanley decided not to listen to reason, or his very sensible co driver and instead of driving another 300 yards, he drive 290 yards and cut the right 3 straight into s tree. poor stanley... stanley sits in his car and waits for something to happen... stanley, who is mildly shaken from hitting a tree, continues to sit there staring into empty space... stanleys player has apparently left the room for a sandwich...
Would I be wrong in saying that the behaviour of the speedo seems a bit off? It looks almost synced to the RPM, and lifting throughout the stage seems to visibly wipe off a lot more speed than I'd expect for the amount of time you lifted for. That could just be me not fully understanding just how much a car like that slows when driving on such a surface though. There a bit about 11:15 where the car goes from 130 down to 80, back up to 120, then down 0 as you go around the corner, and that just seems wrong to me.
The physics still look a bit cartoony. I mean, for a 40+ year old RWD sports car; it sure acts like a 4WD. It corners incredibly fast and it looks like it can recover from near reverse-entries.
The difference is that he has to work it a lot with the gas to make it look and act that way. With an awd it would be a lot easier and he could've been with the foot to the floor on a lot mlre occasions
Edu Campoamor - It still looks like it has way too much grip for a RWD. It puts it’s power down effortlessly. The 70’s cars in Dirt Rally 1 act more akin to what off-roading a RWD should be, with how they struggle for grip in 1st and 2nd gear.
antsolja - Yes and no. The RWD cars in DR1 were still too grippy, but they were nowhere near as grippy as the Z was. I just binged on DR1 the other day, hooning a Ford Escort RS1800 around. It was way less grippy than the Z was in this clip, just visually.
yeah, i see his foot hard on the gas going around corners which without lots of countersteer at the exact right moment would spin you out. in dr 1 you had to be very gentle with gas around corners and be off throttle if the back tries to go around too much. not sure im seeing that here, didnt notice him countersteering much around corners either.. on the few occasions i was looking for it anyway it looked like he had the wheel turned to the right while sliding around a right hand turn.. instead of countersteering to the left. but then again i still struggle to drift in assetto corsa so i dont want dirt rally to suddenly feel impossible to drive... then again with 540 degree steering (or whatever low wheel rotation you prefer) does make it a lot easier. and i still try 900 degree in assetto corsa, and with a g29 its just too hard to react and spin the wheel far enough fast enough.. for me anyway. overall looks good, but i think it could do with being a bit harder not to spin out and require a bit more countersteering and slightly lower cornering speed. for this particular rwd anyway.. but i am still a noob so i dont really know what im talking about i better add.. ;)
I hope they improve the ffb, that was the only thing i didnt like about the first game, was alright on dirt surfaces still sometimes felt odd but on the tarmac stages it was awful, wheel felt unplugged untill the suspension loaded up mid corner and suddenly provided feedback, really put me off the tarmac stages which would have been fun otherwise
I liked the FFB in Greece, but I'm agreeing with Jimmy on 2.0. It's not very communicative. I don't really get any gravel feel, so right now the most I get from the wheel is the cattle guards (which honestly feel near perfect) big jumps, and the general centering force. The biggest improvement is the "stability" between all the cars and levels/surfaces being more equal, so you no longer really need to fiddle with multiple FFB presets based on the surface type. I doubt Jimmy got to try it, but we had a super early test demo and the FFB felt much improved then, so I'm not entirely sure why it seems to have been dampened now.
@@JZStudiosonline hmmm. i definitely dont like the sound of the ffb being worse that original dirt rally. i need to feel the gravel etc just like in original dirt rally..
@@wotever99ninynine Yeah, it's better and worse, just because it's more... less variable? I mainly kept to Greece in DR because I hated trying to fiddle with FFB settings any time I went to any other location, especially Pikes Peak or RX. I'd say there's good possibility of a FFB patch though. It's not god-awful, it's just not amazing. The centering force works well enough to still have fun with it, even if I do miss the "gravel feel."
Well, I'm gonna start with the obvious one, Audi Quattro E2 with 100% FFB :D PS. Fun fact: although the game has the "S1 E2" name, it's not actually correct. The S1 actually refers to the "Sport Rallye" version of the Quattro, aka the one from the first DiRT Rally. This one is E2. The reason for the name difference is that between the S1 and E2 releases, FIA changed their naming rules, so all the cars had to be named "Evolutions". If it wasn't for that, the E2 would be called S2. The whole naming confusion is so mangled up that Audi's licensing department doesn't even know what's what anymore, thus it licenses it sometimes as "S1" and sometimes as "S1 E2". For more insight, here's a good read: www.ableitet.no/twentyS1/s1vse2.htm
The official name is Audi Sport Quattro S1 E2. The S1 is the shortened version of the original Quattro, which was called the Audi Quattro A1/A2. With the added aero kit the S1 became the S1 E1 which they ran for the 1984-1985 season. They upgraded the E1 and then it became the legendary S1 E2 that Audi ran for the 85-86 season. It's really confusing, i know.
@@j-psalmi8039 I'd really like to know what you've been smoking. Cause everything you said is wrong :D Honestly, read the article I linked. Maybe do some research on google as well and by that I don't mean reddit threads, I mean actual articles and onboards and rally entry lists for those years.
@@j-psalmi8039 Alternatively if you don't like to read much, here's a quick summary: forums.codemasters.com/topic/10313-the-confusing-car-name-thread-s1e2-22bwrc-etc%E2%80%A6/
@@Ryu_Makkuro Wow, nice of you to insult me straight off the bat. Very mature. But since i'm not a dick i will post my own source which is this: rallygroupbshrine.org/the-group-b-cars/rally-cars/audi-sport-quattro-s1/ And i will admit, I made a mistake, the E1 did NOT have the aero kit, it was the E2 that had the aero. The E1 was just the normal Sport Quattro. Since FIA came up with this ridiculous way of naming the homologated cars everything is just fucked
@@Ryu_Makkuro is spot on J-P Salmi, there is more detail on the S1/E2 confusion here: www.ableitet.no/twentyS1/s1vse2.htm As said the wrong designation has been repeated so frequently now that even the Audi licensing department get it wrong.
Yes, so happy this has turned out great, been eyeing up 2.0 has hopefully the catalyst for my channel, it would of sucked if it was no good. Thanks for the honest review bud
Just ordered my first sim racing setup! - Question: Are the heel toe downshifts actually necessary in these games or is Jimmy just showing off his skills 😉? Or are you able to just slam it in gear without rev matching and be just as fast? That would be awesome if it's THAT realistic. Can someone please confirm?
@@lucywucyyy Yeah, it's disappointing. The kinda weird thing is you can run past them on the side of the road, so it's not like they can't put the model in, and you can race against your own ghost. Sorta just seems like it's a way to not really do AI.
Jimmacher, you impressed me. First time considering to buy this sim, because first time I think that it is legit sim and better than DR1. Car looks like it does not slide sverely enough though, but perhaps it is ok as it is gravel and those ruts kicks wheels and points them. Looked like there was truly plenty of steering and modulation involved, impressive how you can keep talking faster than I could ever talk while being perfectly at rest lol
I have played RBR for more than 10 years, and i was quite excited to try out Dirt 2.0. Installed it, played for 3 days, deleted. It feels like an arcade game compared to RBR. You can tell that the developers tried to make the game appeal to a larger audience, and more casual gamers. Only thing i enjoyed in this game is the graphics, but other than that, RBR is still the king of rally sims, even after 15 years.
I agree. I received dirt-2 gifts. The donated horse does not look into the teeth :). In fact, even the graphics were disappointing. It is too colorful and not very realistic. Physics completely disappointed the FFB as well. I remain faithful to RBR :)
IMO Dirt Rally 1.0 already de-throned RBR. Sure maybe the physics aren't quite there, but the gameplay aspect is far better, and that's not even considering graphics, Codemaster's amazing sound design etc.
True RBR is still a game, but the online championships require much deeper immersion into “thinking” like a pro driver, nursing a sick car seems to contain more anxiety than it does in Dirt, trying to decide which tyres for a leg with a mixture of surfaces and conditions and driving accordingly is more “”stressful”, Dirt is more pick up and play in any mode, RBR is only that in solo mode and even then it requires a higher level of concentration, I’ve seen myself take half an hour of Dirt after an RBR session just to lighten up.
Hey guys, wondering if i should upgrade to the CS v2.5 and V3 pedals (with the kit brake kit) i have the TM TX base & T3pa pro pedals. i have a fantastic cockpit the K2 & the Samsung super ultrawide so that part is all good but i feel the Thrustmaster stuff is more a toy than anything. i mainly Drift on AC & will race sometimes & will deffo get dirt rally 2. i also chill on FH4 which is my chill game to play. with mates i play AC Tandem drifting which is what im also learning to do IRL.
@@r3volt21 yeah ive watched all the simracing garage and other sim reviewer on the gear and they all agree its much better than the thrustmaster stuff. Atm i dont fancy going DD as im not hugely into like comp racing and like need the best gear. Like the DD1 is 999 plus the wheel i want is 479. So basically an extra 500 over the 2.5 which atm i cant justify since ive only just properly got into it. Like i have the cockpit for a DD if i ever wanted. Plus i have the monitor i the samsung super Ultrawide but my gear i feel is lacking. I started in dec time.
@@RathOX I use vr over flat screen, would even recommend getting csl ps4 not xbox version and v3 pedals and using the price difference to pick up an oculus as vr is much more immersive then a slightly better wheel as long as you have a pc that can run it at good frames with 1.5 ss at high settings.
I think it maybe a good bit of a wait on the PSVR side, will prob hit steam sometime after Oculus, then maybe they will take a swing at getting it to PSVR as there will have to be some heavy optimisation again to get it working on the og PS4.
@@cacarey01 Still a lot of optimization would be needed with all the extra detail for the surface degradation, but undoubtedly it would be a must play for anyone with a PSVR that likes driving games, just as the 1st Dirt Rally currently is. I hope it happens but I think it would be sometime off if it does.
Playing Dirt 2 back in the day I used to spent alot of my time trying to set leaderboard records and listening to that sweet sound track. Haven't played a rally game since.
What a clickbait title... these games cannot even be compared. The first one is a nice rally game for advanced players (Dirt: Rally) and the second one is the rally ecosystem for people who want to get as close to real rally as possible. So even if Dirt: Rally offers proper physics (I admit it feels less arcadish now - the car finally seems to have some weight), it just cannot beat the complexity of RBR - the online championships, trophies, teams consisting and managed by real people, reality based events (i.e. Monte-Carlo rally where you can be forced to drive with slicks on snow) where you have chance to compare with real rally drivers (the best RBR drivers are mostly real drivers), way more content because the modding possibility (tracks, cars, VR etc.), way more precise force feedback, editable and detailed pacenotes etc... I don't want to hate Dirt: Rally, it is a nice game (I love DR sound especially!) and even RBR is far from perfect, but - besides it's still very simplified physics - it would need to offer the same level of complexity and modability so the RBR community can even start thinking about switching.
@Nick Cassetta force feedback doesn't pretend to be realistic, it's role is to substitute missing connection with the actual car, it gives the information about what is the car actually doing so you can drive it properly. In RBR the response is so detailed that you exactly know when you are loosing grip, what is the surface you are driving on, what is the damage, detect locking wheels while braking etc. In Dirt the FFB is just a fun factor.
@@cougar231000 RBR is the only real simulator because no other rally game uses actual simulation for the physics - in RBR the car's behavior is a result of a math modelling of each car component, using exact data and real-world units. All other rally games works with a "driving model" that is tweaked for each car so it behaves like it should, using much simplified formular (look-up tables) = more limited and imprecise, not reacting to advanced driving techniques & conditions. Thats just how it works internally and why we can clearly tell what is a simulator and what is a challenging game. And just a note - even simulation can be imprecise of it doesn't work with correct data or doesn't implement necessary computations, so I don't say RBR is absolutely perfect. th-cam.com/video/MEkqg7Cp62A/w-d-xo.html
@@jendabekCZ how do you know dirt doesn't use real data??? Plus i don't care, i just believe in what i experienced by playing both games, and richard burns rally definately DIDN'T feel like a simulation!!!!
Regarding force feedback. I remember playing dirt rally with my wheel fir the first time and the ffb was 100%. almost took my house down.
Massive F for your past self.
Noice
@@rikupv thanks sometimes I still struggle with simple wrist movements
...I play with 100% ffb. Do you mean I should turn it down?
@@yogxoth1959 It really depends on what wheel you have. Most commercial wheels like G29, T300, etc. can safely be used at 100% FFB, while something like Jimmy's direct drive wheel *will* break your wrists.
Jimmy: "Rally used to be about caution, not speed."
Group B: "Hold my beer."
Colin Mcrae: Hold my brake pedal
He says "cation vs speed" though, so I think thats still apropriate to the group B cars
@@toddcolston1501 LOL
TRIPLE CAUTION
I would like your comment but it has 420 likes
New drinking game. Every time jimmer mentions he drove an impreza rally car take a shot.
Elliott hutton so that’s... once
@@m.r.9127 Twice actually, but that's neither here nor there as it was a joke.
@@elliotthutton7175 what an anal out of date chocalate bar you are @wispa
@@elliotthutton7175 I miss the days when "jokes" were supposed to actually be funny.
@@Logan912 Yeah because humour is objective... oh wait no, that's not right.
SAMIR YOU'RE BREAKING THE CAR! Listen to my calls!!
Yessssss
No Rally video is legit without this comment
Shud uuup
Until today I wasn't able to understand what was going on and why Samir was breaking the car.
He ignored everything and it seemed like he took some drugs before the race 🤣 I would like to know the background story of this sad video.
I am so sad for the co-driver because he was doing his job pretty well... 😥 Sorry for my strange English it isn't my main language 😅🙏
@@i3l4ckskillzz79 You speak better than half of the natives mate.
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Simple challenge, I call bullshit on that
If you set the video quality to 480p, then Jimmy looks like John Wick.
anybody looks like john wick at that quality. except keanu reeves, he looks like mister anderson
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Just watched two completely unrelated videos and your top comment on both, what's the chances haha
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People always point out how good Jimmy must be to commentate and drive so well at the same time.
This ability really shines while he's flying through a rally stage and talking over the pace notes.
@@ueberlicht_ then why watch his channel? You have the logic of a person who is a few chromosomes short, my friend.
@@alec7568He's complimenting Jim, fool.
Faith restored in this game... With the announcement of VR support coming and seeing that the physics is actually better this time, I'm finally ready for something to take DR 1's place on my pc.
David Gossett people who have the game already are saying its good but gets boring very quick as it’s lacking content.
PIPPO-10 people who haven’t played DR1 then. Only 6 tracks in 1 and yet it never got old.
Did they actually announce VR support for this? Oh thank fuck I might buy this after all!
@@Evolver10 what a silly thing to say, if there is to little content that you can memorize the stages, which was the case for DR1, then you are not driving a rally.
@@FirriApril me too for that same reason
Stranger: thats a nice car, whats it called?
Me: dats my sun
That son, is my car
RBR obviously has one advantage as that is modding.
However, comparing RBR’s base game to DR 2.0, 2.0 absolutely blows it away. No contest.
Even with RBR’s mods DR still has the advantage in terms of overall quality and polish.
Quality over rbr world? In what? Physics? No rbr world is better. Quantity and quality of PS? No, rbr is better with mods, it has also Real Life stages, some are over 20km .
I was hoping for a big step forward but codemaster is only about money nowadays. 30 euros for 2 dlcs of dirt 1 special stages? Recycled montecarlo and Sweden?
Lorenzo Clara but he just said the base game, not with mods.
Shame licensing nowadays fuck up the modding scene. This game would be amazing with mod support.
@@LorenzoClara97 you don't know if Montecarlo and Sweden are recycled. Spain looks so different in this game in comparison with Dirt 4
rbr world is shit. They still us vanilla physics. @@LorenzoClara97
"You've got to be smooth, you can't just whack it" - Top life advice there Jimmer
That's what she said.
Miko Marczyk (Polish rally champion, Skoda Motorsport driver, sim racing enthusiast and world record holder on SS Zagórze in Dirt 2.0) commented on realism of the two. He wrote that according to him RBR is still the most realistic one. For him iRacing or AC are real simulators, but it's a lot harder to produce a serious one for rallying environment. The grip on gravel in Dirt games is much higher in real life (he was like 4s / km quicker than in real life). The stages are not close to being bumpy enough, on the second run on the stage is like a battlefield, you have to aim for the ruts, which have a huge impact on how the car behaves and in games it's a lot less noticeable (even in RBR,). He also wrote that the Dirt Rally team did a good job producing a balanced game as far as realism and accessibility is concerned.
He also wrote that the FF on default was too strong for the R5 car and he had to reduce it to make it closer to reality.
Thanks for taking the time to write a useful comment.
The thing is, DiRT Rally 2.0 could be 100% accurate and it still wouldn't matter to a lot of people in the simracing community because they played RBR first therefore they think it's always the best. That's just how the simracing community is.
Also because it's by Codemasters. Some past mistakes they made (like Dirt 4 in whole, Dirt Rally absurd tarmac physics) makes people skeptical
Maybe, but the fact is it is far from being a simulator, regardless of what one think about RBR.
I was a dirt fan back when it came out. Even before that,colin mcrae 04. Later I heard about rbr and gave it a go. I did not play rbr before dirt and I think rbr is better than dirt. It's not whether you've played which title first. It's just a matter of which one is best; period.
@@Koggelxander Which is completely subjective; period.
That's the truth. There's always going to be someone complaining that physics are arcade this, simcade that.
I'm not sure about it. I think I still live in era of Colin McRae games when there were plenty of stages (I miss special stages) from asphalt in Europe, dirt in Australia to snow roads in Northern Europe. Since first Dirt game I feel there is lack of content or rather there is too much of it (rallycross, rally, gymkhana etc.) that from outside it looks a lot, but when we start playing it quickly become repetitive. For me it really a huge issue, because even great number of cars, outstanding graphics and impressive handling can't change that feel of emptiness after hour or two.
Lots of tracks is definitely one of the common traits of all my favorite racing games.
Actually dirt make by British-Malaysia company
Codemaster
Yeah, for me 5-6 countries are to low. 10-12 it would be far better. I would like to drive in: Sweeden, Monte Carlo, Corsica, Argentina, Greece, Portugal, Walles, Australia, Poland, Sardegna, Germany and the most in Finland. Game with this calendar would be for me perfect.
It's not about countries. In Colins you had 5-8 different countries which each has 6-10 unique stages. In Dirt Rally you have similar number of countries but there is only two unique stages that was cut in smaller pieces.
It's about quality or quantity. Dirt 4 offered a generic system that made stages on the spot. Almost endless variation of stages. I however extremely prefer DR2, because even though there are not tons of stages (in my opinion enough though), because they are of a very high quality, there are various conditions to ride them in and they are difficult to master. Took me hours and hours to get on the 1st spot of the global leaderboards of Jezioro Lukie (Group A, Poland) but I loved it. DR2 gives feels authenthic. DR2 made me buy a racing seat. DR2 is a gem.
Man, A wheel, pedals and a VR headset with this game, dream.
a very green dream
What took you so long, partner.
Idk what took me so long
The calls issue was present also in DiRT Rally, and I never was able to find a proper timing for the calls. Hope this one is better regarding this aspect. Can't wait to download mine!
The first proper gamer that plays this game correctly. Pedal work on point! Loved it
Anyone watching this after seeing it’s the next PS plus free game for April
Yep
Yeah.
Just started using my wheel after 2 years in this game! It's such a blast
Made me buy a g29 because of how good it is
Me
Jimmy, it would be absolutely fantastic if you could do a serious career mode in this. What I mean by serious? I mean: with the commitment level like that of ILMS or something like that. Minimum of speaking during a stage, so that you could actually focus on the pacenotes and let us hear them, too :). Don't get me wrong: I love your narration, I really do. But when playing a rally game it just doesn't make any sense and takes out a lot of fun of watching it. Contrary to what some racing afficionados might think, rallying is actually not about throwing the car right and left on the road, just trying to survive and carry some speed: it's about committing to corners based on a rough idea of what's coming. Without the driver listening to pacenotes, this is very messy and gets to be tedious to watch. I'm not referring to this particular video, because I understand its intended purpose, but I'm talking about your potential future videos. Perhaps I'm alone in this suggestion, but maybe there are more people like me, who would be waiting for every new episode of a career mode series in which you would drive the rallies in a real rally simulating mode: there's plenty of time before and after a stage to do some quality narration.
Love what you're doing, Jimmy! Keep it up!
yup me too
+1
barsorrro Jimmy, this is what you need to do!
Agreed
couldnt agree more sir... i also would like to see some video of jimmy playing dirt rally, while listening to the pacenotes also very love to see the footwork as well... it would be nice tough...
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I'm still mad that the Drift Stage dev ran away with the Kickstarter money
soshykin wait - really? i thought it was the 90's arcade racer who did it instead
The main dev of Drift Stage decided to bail with the money
Hell yeah Myrone! 👀
@Catman Just check out the Steam community discussions for the game.
Nice to see Jimmy picked one of my favorites, the 240Z is such a pretty little car. This may be an odd request but I'd like to see a stage which includes the car crashing and how it handles afterwards. Just don't do it with this one!!
Big like!!
Pulta merda, mario sete galo, vc por aq kkkkkkk
@@loona9207 Amo jogo de corridas! Kkkkk
@@MarioSeteGalo bah dirt é mto foda kkkk
The cars still seem to be too light weighted in DR2.0... compared to RBR NGP6 physics, which feels correct for me. I discovered the whole RBR stuff 3 weeks ago, got used to NGP6 and now I am addicted to these physics and the weight transfer. Perfect in VR. Not the best grafix, but OK in the most natural stages. Oh the stages are sooo real. Have a try!
can't chance the weight cars as the setting in cfs files u can't edit them i tried it shame now all dlc are locked as well no modding in future cody sux now.
@@aussiezx3017 RBR time babe!
Only thing about RBR is setting up FFB. I've yet to still get a decent setup where I can actually drive.
But in Dirt 2.0, it's perfect.
You didn't answer the question! Does it dethrone RBR???
the only reason I watched the video :(
I only care about 1 thing. How realistic is the physics?
A hardcore rally guy doesn't care about graphics.
@@GmKcorp ive seen real rally drivers play this game and enjoy it on youtube, pretty sure its a realistic one
@@ThePepe969 Even real driver can enjoy arcade ;)
@@ThePepe969 I´ve seen real airplane pilots enjoying Star Wars Battlefront, specially using a Tie Fighter, pretty sure it´s a realistic one.
@@Wen6543 haha haha are you referring to the original battlefront from ps2
Thanks for the preview Jimmy! This looks amazing. You completed that stage while talking and ignoring pace notes...in a rwd car in the rain. You are a beast. I'm looking forward to playing on the 22nd! Thanks for the great content keep it up.
You should have worn your Japanese headband.
Hey jimmy,
I am in no way a rally driver but I've done some running on the dirt roads in Georgia at pretty decent speeds. 50-60mph.
Ruts; if you absolutely can not avoid them then order of operations are as follows.
1. Cross rut at sharpest angle possible.
If impossible.
2. Place the rut on inside of turn on inside of the tire. Rut on driver side, keep it on driver side and Visa versa.
While doing this you should always look for ways around it but it is always good to attack the rut at it most predictable point. For bad ruts it's almost always better to go around/cut. I use to live in the farm lands on dirt/ orange clay road. The tractors left huge car totalling ruts if it rained. Like rip the a frame right out if you hit it wrong. We use to race the dirt roads in old beaters. 83 oldsmobile, caprice, box Chevys.
Hows the dry tarmac handling? Thats a big point to improve on compared to dirt rally 1.0
He talked about tarmac handling in his first impressions video
@XGamerX DR2 also doesn't use a tyre model, but RBR and any reputable simulator uses a tyre model.
@@lorenzo2862 DR2 doesn't have a tire model yet has multiple compounds. Okay then.
@@Logan912 Open your eyes
@@glenn1975 Use your brain.
Thanks for the review Jimmy, I'd love to see more Dirt Rally 2.0 coverage, looking good so far!
I'm buying this game soley for the 240z, it's my favorite car, and I live rally. Perfect combo!!
I'm a beginner at this, started playing Dirt 2.0 Today and wow is it fun!! Definitely something to get used to, and doing some research does help a lot. Highly recommended.
Group B feel dangerous now... if they felt dangerous to me in DR1, how will they feel in DR2?
Im just waiting here for some delta s4 or quattro action! God am I excited!
Personally I found that the Group B cars in DR1 were dangerous because you would go into space if you hit a slight bump from the huge amount of speed you could get though them, rather than the cars themselves actually being difficult to drive in terms of actually controlling the car
good to finally see some one with a full setup and not racing in 3rd person
Curious how much different the PC version will be from the console.
Pretty sure the PC will offer a LOT more and graphics like these will most likely not be seen on console
Consoles are garbage on their best day.
@@EDDSkitz I'm on PC and I'll say this isn't entirely true
Graphics won’t be the same but in terms of handling and physics it must be the same
I think Jimmy has a PS4 or Xbox 1 so maybe he can comment in future.
Well done Jimmer! I'm so proud for you and your growth during the past two years. You do man!
What do you think of tarmac physics?
They felt terrible in DR1, and didn't look much better in the videos i've seen.
Tarmac is pretty much always been terrible on rally games :/
I'm a tester on the forums, and we're chatting about the tarmac. It's still not 100%, and sometimes the ass end seems to float around a little bit, but overall it's massively better than DR, and even though like Jimmy here I don't love the FFB it's more consistent across cars and surface types. Early on in the testing we had some prototype builds and from what all of us recall, the FFB and tarmac were better then than now, so we're not sure what changed.
I guess to put it simply, I'd say DR tarmac was like... 50%. 60 if you're being generous. DR2 is more in ~90% range. It's not on AC levels or anything, but it's a massive improvement still.
I’m loving everything about this game:
New locations for new iconic stages like DiRT Rally, new cars with classic liveries from rally history, Phil Mills as a co-driver for the first time since WRC 4 on PS2, and I am ready to give this a drive on Friday morning!
You need to do a video on the Lancia 037 in Greece/Italy as that will be challenging
From what I understand the 037 isn't in the game at launch unfortunately, it'll be coming in one of the later updates :(
The 037 is such a great car
Gotta love the thicc flaps!
@@ILoveNeeps There's no Greece either, much my massive disappointment.
Can't wait to see more DR content, I found and subscribed to your channel because of a DR career playthrough in the little Fulvia that could back in 2015 maybe? Been a fan ever since, so amazing that now you're getting the game early, what progress mate, well done!
I hope as much flavour from DiRT 4 is retained as possible, specifically the in-engine menus/screens and team management/customisation. That flavour doesn't impact the core gameplay but it makes me feel like I'm part of something exciting that draws crowds of people, and wasn't just racing for racing's sake like DiRT Rally and many other physics focused racing games. I'm still waiting on a rally game that simulates more of the real life experience, such as driving the transitional stages in between special stages and to/from the service area, nursing any damage and performing any field repairs that would be allowed.
I noticed here thay they mixed 70s Group 4, 80s Group 4 and RWD Group A into a single class, which would be about as fair as racing an F2004 against a Lotus 25.
I like the main menu system a lot more, it's cleaner and easier to navigate. You still have the sort of "in game menu" at the service stations between events. Team Management is... sort of there? I haven't been able to buy any new engineers yet, but the game gives you the co-driver, a head engineer, and standard engineer that seem to have no contract periods. I don't know about any ones you can "buy" later yet. They do all have things you can upgrade on them though.
There's also the drive through finish to the marshal, which I aim directly for. If you drive straight into him you don't actually have to stop and you don't get any damage or penalties. XD
Otherwise it's pretty similar with a service station every few events where you can do tunings, repairs, and tire changes.
Since Richard Burns Rally I haven't played a good, realistic rally game. My test is: start the game, try to drive and if I don't crash in one of first three curves, game is not good. It took me like 50 repeats on one stage of Richard Burns to have it perfect. With Dirt series it was one dissapoint after another, you could virtualy finish the game without crashing once. And I can tell you, if you are not experienced with a high powered car, you will crash in Mitsubishi Lancer Evo on first few curves on a real rally stage. Seeing that Jimmy didn't crash once during this stage, I am inclined to have doubts about this game.
You mentioned a different video about 30 seconds in, though you didn't link it in the notes below. Easy way to funnel more views for your videos, if you'd do that when mentioning your other videos in a new one! Thanks for the reviews, been looking forward to 2.0!
Stoked to hear you like it Jimmy! You’re definitely a yard-stick for me in terms of whether I get 2.0...sounds like a winner! Would be great to see you drive the Audi Sport Quattro please!! Cheers, Tim (Auckland, New Zealand)
I just recently got this game for myself, but I'm unfortunately limited to just an xbox controller. I'm finding it super hard to be able to enjoy the game, or even feel competitive as a result. perhaps one day I can fully enjoy this game with a sim setup.
I bought Dirt Rally on PS4 yesterday (there's a deal going). It feels fine with just a controller. You will lack the precision of the wheel (mostly on icy track - Sweden and Monte Carlo - ) but I drive RWD and steering is more about brake and gas and you will not miss a lot.
Like others said... Just practice more. Xbox one controller does a great job of haptic feedback and steering. I've spent like 100s of hours on dirt rally with an Xbox one controller and i enjoyed the hell out of it. Also.. I could beat players with wheels.
If you are are wondering if there will be more cars/locations don't worry, they have already confirmed that there will be post launch contents, in example in the first wave there will be Monte Carlo, Sweden and Germany (plus some other cars, you can find all the info on the blog of Codemasters)
Thanks for the info!
Btw, here's a link: blog.codemasters.com/community/02/seasonone-dr2/
But aren't those just ports from DR1? That is just so lazy to sell those as full price DLC again instead of making new stuff. I've played those enough...
@@WhiteHawk77 I'm a bit salty too that they make DLCs when in reality the base game should have at least a couple of more maps. Still, it's just 20 euros more when you pre-order so now I'm tempted...
are you kidding? all the first season dlc is locations we already had in dirt rally 1? thats so fucking lazy. tbh I'm not thrilled with the amount of content that comes with this game, in some ways it seems worse than dr1
For me 5-6 countries are to low. 8-10 it would be far better. However if they add 3 countries in season 1 and as they say somethting same in season 2, is it possible that there will be 12 events in calendar? I would like to drive in: Sweeden, Monte Carlo, Corsica, Argentina (or Greece), Portugal, Walles, Australia, Poland, Sardegna (or Germany) and the most in Finland. Game with this calendar would be for me perfect, so i cant wait for few more countries.
Didn't watched yet but I love the intro
Thanks for the video, Dirty Boi! Great memories of driving a road going 240Z. such a beautiful, responsive car.
If you wouldn't mind, could you give RBRCZ's NGP5.92 physics a shot and take a run through one of France's stages and compare it to DR2.0's tarmac physics? I'm aware they're somewhat inferior, I want to know by how much you think it is!
A lot. Dirt 2.0 has too much grip like 1.0 . Rbr world in term of physics is still the king of course
@@LorenzoClara97 Have you got the game?
@@uksimracer of course and we are just a few in Italy, or how could I make those suppositions?. It is a nice and well polished game. Gravel feels nice but tarmac is lacking, as always. Less than 10 hours and you know all the stages. Rbr with mods (original it suck) is probably unbeatable thanks to mods. If dirt2.0 will accept mods it can be a close battle in the future
@@LorenzoClara97 RBR? "Still" the king? no for sure, RBR is very good but on tarmac it's too grippy, the car is very agile and very fast not loosing grip when you force it, planted to the ground unless you use ALOT of handbrake, i mean this with the R5's & WRC cars
GiorGiTeV Well wrc and r5 cars ARE basicaly glued to the tarmac.
Looks like a huge improvement over dirt rally, really want to get playing it now, this degradation looks equally fun and challenging
You sold the game to me, thanks boi!
The guy is doing heel - toe and everything. Job well done, sir!
Dirt Rally - 10/10 Best modern rally experience
Dirt 4 - I'm not even mad, I'm just disappointed
Biggest letdown of my life.
Now I'm hyped for Dirt Rally 2.0, but the fear it doesn't hold up to expectations is killing me inside.
im already disappointed.. and i was hyped before which made it hurt more.. damn codemasters..
It depends on what you would qualify as a disappointment. I've seen people complain about the stages looking boring and generic... I'm not sure what that means, and I'm inclined to disagree. It's better than Dirt 4, and Dirt 4 fixed things with DR, despite people not wanting to believe it.
What issues do you have with dirt 4? I dont really understand why everyone hates it
@@horseradish843 Compared to Dirt Rally, it has some really repetitive stages, and the extra vehicles such as trucks handle very poorly with very limited variety in the stages.
@@horseradish843 The hate is for no good reason. I swear. Look into what people actually say regarding all the hate and you'll find no substance. It's an EPIC game and can offer limitless fun for anyone who plays it :)
Thank you Jimmy for focusing on physics. Its really all I want to know about racing games before I buy.
Is there any risk?- How is the damage model? Is it still impossible to actually wreck a car?
There is "hardcore damage" option. With normal damage DNF comes after 3 big hits, in hardcore it takes just one (or so the developers said)
80mph into a tree gave me a terminal damage. I haven't messed with the hardcore mode, and for some reason it's absent from career. They're not as strong as DR, but they aren't that brittle either.
for me this guy is legit badass driving rally car while talking while thinking what the co said. I can't help but admire
The engine sound is amazing! 😍 No comparison to Forza horizon 4
I like that you bring the car to a full stop now after the stage. I always hated the balls to the wall through the finish then likely die during the slow-mo mentality.
8miles is the longest stage in the game? :( That would've been one of the shorter stages in Rally Championship 2000
Thanks, Jimmy! Really excited for this game and your content on it, and found your channel looking for Dirt Rally 1.0 tips. Roost BEEST!
Does the Co driver have the voice of the announcer from the Stanley Parable?
stanley parable was awesome, we need the stanley parable 2.0!
Stanley drove a further 300 yards, took a 3-right, and didn't cut.
@@o00nemesis00o then stanley decided not to listen to reason, or his very sensible co driver and instead of driving another 300 yards, he drive 290 yards and cut the right 3 straight into s tree. poor stanley... stanley sits in his car and waits for something to happen... stanley, who is mildly shaken from hitting a tree, continues to sit there staring into empty space... stanleys player has apparently left the room for a sandwich...
It looks great. The driving does indeed look very natural. Dirt 2.0 might actually be really good :)
Would I be wrong in saying that the behaviour of the speedo seems a bit off? It looks almost synced to the RPM, and lifting throughout the stage seems to visibly wipe off a lot more speed than I'd expect for the amount of time you lifted for. That could just be me not fully understanding just how much a car like that slows when driving on such a surface though. There a bit about 11:15 where the car goes from 130 down to 80, back up to 120, then down 0 as you go around the corner, and that just seems wrong to me.
Maybe the speedo cable is connected to the rears?
i think it is because the wheels are spinning out because of the dirt and then they lock up and stuff probably
Yes, you would be. It's wheel speed being displayed, and with a rear-drive car on a low-traction surface, the speedo's going to go a bit nuts.
before GPS, wheel speed is all they had.
Hmm maybe that's because this is how it behaves in real life when driving on low grip surfaces? 😏😏😏
Please 'All the Way'-arino Jimmer! Loved the vid. So excited to watch your first official 2.0 content. Waiting for more.
It’s my birthday today and I can’t wait to get DR 2.
Happy birthday lol even tho its 2 yrs later hahaha
@@ryanbrown3152 LMAO
All the way! Thank you for the passion, as always!
The physics still look a bit cartoony.
I mean, for a 40+ year old RWD sports car; it sure acts like a 4WD. It corners incredibly fast and it looks like it can recover from near reverse-entries.
The difference is that he has to work it a lot with the gas to make it look and act that way. With an awd it would be a lot easier and he could've been with the foot to the floor on a lot mlre occasions
@@lucywucyyy Well it depends on rack gearing, not all cars need 1080° to go full lock
Edu Campoamor - It still looks like it has way too much grip for a RWD. It puts it’s power down effortlessly. The 70’s cars in Dirt Rally 1 act more akin to what off-roading a RWD should be, with how they struggle for grip in 1st and 2nd gear.
antsolja - Yes and no. The RWD cars in DR1 were still too grippy, but they were nowhere near as grippy as the Z was.
I just binged on DR1 the other day, hooning a Ford Escort RS1800 around. It was way less grippy than the Z was in this clip, just visually.
yeah, i see his foot hard on the gas going around corners which without lots of countersteer at the exact right moment would spin you out. in dr 1 you had to be very gentle with gas around corners and be off throttle if the back tries to go around too much. not sure im seeing that here, didnt notice him countersteering much around corners either.. on the few occasions i was looking for it anyway it looked like he had the wheel turned to the right while sliding around a right hand turn.. instead of countersteering to the left. but then again i still struggle to drift in assetto corsa so i dont want dirt rally to suddenly feel impossible to drive...
then again with 540 degree steering (or whatever low wheel rotation you prefer) does make it a lot easier. and i still try 900 degree in assetto corsa, and with a g29 its just too hard to react and spin the wheel far enough fast enough.. for me anyway.
overall looks good, but i think it could do with being a bit harder not to spin out and require a bit more countersteering and slightly lower cornering speed. for this particular rwd anyway.. but i am still a noob so i dont really know what im talking about i better add.. ;)
As much as i like and really appreciate your style as a commentary-while-driving Jimmer, just shut up once and focus :D Love your content
I hope they improve the ffb, that was the only thing i didnt like about the first game, was alright on dirt surfaces still sometimes felt odd but on the tarmac stages it was awful, wheel felt unplugged untill the suspension loaded up mid corner and suddenly provided feedback, really put me off the tarmac stages which would have been fun otherwise
i love the ffb in dirt rally.. i prefer it to any other games ffb. i dont play much tarmac though, and agree the tarmac physics were not quite right.
I liked the FFB in Greece, but I'm agreeing with Jimmy on 2.0. It's not very communicative. I don't really get any gravel feel, so right now the most I get from the wheel is the cattle guards (which honestly feel near perfect) big jumps, and the general centering force. The biggest improvement is the "stability" between all the cars and levels/surfaces being more equal, so you no longer really need to fiddle with multiple FFB presets based on the surface type.
I doubt Jimmy got to try it, but we had a super early test demo and the FFB felt much improved then, so I'm not entirely sure why it seems to have been dampened now.
@@JZStudiosonline hmmm. i definitely dont like the sound of the ffb being worse that original dirt rally. i need to feel the gravel etc just like in original dirt rally..
@@wotever99ninynine Yeah, it's better and worse, just because it's more... less variable? I mainly kept to Greece in DR because I hated trying to fiddle with FFB settings any time I went to any other location, especially Pikes Peak or RX.
I'd say there's good possibility of a FFB patch though. It's not god-awful, it's just not amazing. The centering force works well enough to still have fun with it, even if I do miss the "gravel feel."
It's looking good, thrilling and fun, that's a relief. Thanks for the video.
Girls: eeewww mud
Jimmy: dirt boy here
This game looks amazing, I will have to try it. Great video as always, thicc brit
If it's not moddable so you can have WRC cars and real life stages RBR will remain the king.
While the game is not a sim in it's core, the mod's wouldn't make it much better in the term of physics.
Looks sick! Finally a video without the arrows and arcade crap all over the screen. 👍🏻 the new rally sim king....? Looks promising.
Well, I'm gonna start with the obvious one, Audi Quattro E2 with 100% FFB :D
PS. Fun fact: although the game has the "S1 E2" name, it's not actually correct. The S1 actually refers to the "Sport Rallye" version of the Quattro, aka the one from the first DiRT Rally. This one is E2. The reason for the name difference is that between the S1 and E2 releases, FIA changed their naming rules, so all the cars had to be named "Evolutions". If it wasn't for that, the E2 would be called S2.
The whole naming confusion is so mangled up that Audi's licensing department doesn't even know what's what anymore, thus it licenses it sometimes as "S1" and sometimes as "S1 E2".
For more insight, here's a good read: www.ableitet.no/twentyS1/s1vse2.htm
The official name is Audi Sport Quattro S1 E2. The S1 is the shortened version of the original Quattro, which was called the Audi Quattro A1/A2. With the added aero kit the S1 became the S1 E1 which they ran for the 1984-1985 season. They upgraded the E1 and then it became the legendary S1 E2 that Audi ran for the 85-86 season.
It's really confusing, i know.
@@j-psalmi8039 I'd really like to know what you've been smoking. Cause everything you said is wrong :D
Honestly, read the article I linked. Maybe do some research on google as well and by that I don't mean reddit threads, I mean actual articles and onboards and rally entry lists for those years.
@@j-psalmi8039 Alternatively if you don't like to read much, here's a quick summary: forums.codemasters.com/topic/10313-the-confusing-car-name-thread-s1e2-22bwrc-etc%E2%80%A6/
@@Ryu_Makkuro Wow, nice of you to insult me straight off the bat. Very mature.
But since i'm not a dick i will post my own source which is this: rallygroupbshrine.org/the-group-b-cars/rally-cars/audi-sport-quattro-s1/
And i will admit, I made a mistake, the E1 did NOT have the aero kit, it was the E2 that had the aero. The E1 was just the normal Sport Quattro. Since FIA came up with this ridiculous way of naming the homologated cars everything is just fucked
@@Ryu_Makkuro is spot on J-P Salmi, there is more detail on the S1/E2 confusion here:
www.ableitet.no/twentyS1/s1vse2.htm
As said the wrong designation has been repeated so frequently now that even the Audi licensing department get it wrong.
Yes, so happy this has turned out great, been eyeing up 2.0 has hopefully the catalyst for my channel, it would of sucked if it was no good.
Thanks for the honest review bud
"i run low force feedback in rally games" just killed it for me
Looks so awesome! Pre ordered the deluxe edition and I absolutely can't wait to play it!
Just ordered my first sim racing setup! - Question: Are the heel toe downshifts actually necessary in these games or is Jimmy just showing off his skills 😉? Or are you able to just slam it in gear without rev matching and be just as fast? That would be awesome if it's THAT realistic. Can someone please confirm?
I think you can tell the Dirt Rally series are just made with a passion for rally. That's what sets it apart so much
The graphics look incredible and the physics feel kinda better.
Da Monster Cat Graphics look terrible? Are we watching the same video?
@@jamesshives5679 🤦♂️😭I said they looked great smh
Da Monster Cat Oh I totally read that wrong, sorry, haha. I even read it more than once and still read it as "terrible"
@@jamesshives5679 nah don't worry it's ok
That was some neat driving right there... impressed
Can u see AI broke down or crashed?
Andy Mc yes u can
@McLarenBMW That should happen while racing with Group B cars or in Argentina
@McLarenBMW damn.. ;-)
@@justolascano3778 yeah
@@lucywucyyy Yeah, it's disappointing. The kinda weird thing is you can run past them on the side of the road, so it's not like they can't put the model in, and you can race against your own ghost. Sorta just seems like it's a way to not really do AI.
I get massively excited in me trousers every time I see that wicked heel toe maneuver
DAT SUN DOE
Really?
Jimmacher, you impressed me. First time considering to buy this sim, because first time I think that it is legit sim and better than DR1. Car looks like it does not slide sverely enough though, but perhaps it is ok as it is gravel and those ruts kicks wheels and points them. Looked like there was truly plenty of steering and modulation involved, impressive how you can keep talking faster than I could ever talk while being perfectly at rest lol
Don't know about anyone else but I can't just "mash" the peddle in Dirt Rally.
I have played RBR for more than 10 years, and i was quite excited to try out Dirt 2.0. Installed it, played for 3 days, deleted. It feels like an arcade game compared to RBR. You can tell that the developers tried to make the game appeal to a larger audience, and more casual gamers. Only thing i enjoyed in this game is the graphics, but other than that, RBR is still the king of rally sims, even after 15 years.
I agree. I received dirt-2 gifts. The donated horse does not look into the teeth :). In fact, even the graphics were disappointing. It is too colorful and not very realistic. Physics completely disappointed the FFB as well. I remain faithful to RBR :)
Rbr is rubbish. Feels like you're always on ice and it always crashes or maps won't load. Absolute piece of shit creates by bad Devs.
IMO Dirt Rally 1.0 already de-throned RBR. Sure maybe the physics aren't quite there, but the gameplay aspect is far better, and that's not even considering graphics, Codemaster's amazing sound design etc.
@@lucywucyyy you can get the numeric pace notes added to RBR as a mod....
But there are many people who wants a sim and don't care about "gameplay aspect", there is still only RBR for these hardcore drivers.
@@jendabekCZ There are very few people who want "just" a hardcore sim. Even the most hardcore of simmers want some sort of gameplay there.
True RBR is still a game, but the online championships require much deeper immersion into “thinking” like a pro driver, nursing a sick car seems to contain more anxiety than it does in Dirt, trying to decide which tyres for a leg with a mixture of surfaces and conditions and driving accordingly is more “”stressful”, Dirt is more pick up and play in any mode, RBR is only that in solo mode and even then it requires a higher level of concentration, I’ve seen myself take half an hour of Dirt after an RBR session just to lighten up.
I don't comment often, but holy shit that was awesome. Pre-ordered right after this video!
mans got the race gloves and race shoes on lol
Based of this video alone i will be purchasing dirt rally 2.0. That looks like so much fun!!
Hey guys, wondering if i should upgrade to the CS v2.5 and V3 pedals (with the kit brake kit) i have the TM TX base & T3pa pro pedals. i have a fantastic cockpit the K2 & the Samsung super ultrawide so that part is all good but i feel the Thrustmaster stuff is more a toy than anything. i mainly Drift on AC & will race sometimes & will deffo get dirt rally 2. i also chill on FH4 which is my chill game to play. with mates i play AC Tandem drifting which is what im also learning to do IRL.
RathØX have a csl elite ps4 and v3 pedals huge difference over my g29 or brothers t300 rs, went csl over csw as planned to upgrade again to dd.
@@r3volt21 yeah ive watched all the simracing garage and other sim reviewer on the gear and they all agree its much better than the thrustmaster stuff. Atm i dont fancy going DD as im not hugely into like comp racing and like need the best gear. Like the DD1 is 999 plus the wheel i want is 479. So basically an extra 500 over the 2.5 which atm i cant justify since ive only just properly got into it. Like i have the cockpit for a DD if i ever wanted. Plus i have the monitor i the samsung super Ultrawide but my gear i feel is lacking. I started in dec time.
@@RathOX
keep wasting money
@@God-mb8wi wasting? Whos wasting money lmao its called spending on a hobby?
@@RathOX I use vr over flat screen, would even recommend getting csl ps4 not xbox version and v3 pedals and using the price difference to pick up an oculus as vr is much more immersive then a slightly better wheel as long as you have a pc that can run it at good frames with 1.5 ss at high settings.
I got the game because of this review, awesome fun, beautiful graphics.
Water on the top of the hill and not going down... Great physics...
It's Australia. They're upside down.
Ooooh, Exclusive Coupé as a background music... Love it!
PSVR support.......p.l.e.a.s.e.
Vr coming in the summer 2019.
@@Marco-ym8ry I have heard of Rift support in the pipeline but so far nothing about PSVR.
I think it maybe a good bit of a wait on the PSVR side, will prob hit steam sometime after Oculus, then maybe they will take a swing at getting it to PSVR as there will have to be some heavy optimisation again to get it working on the og PS4.
Would be a good fit for psvr. As not too many cars to render at once.
@@cacarey01 Still a lot of optimization would be needed with all the extra detail for the surface degradation, but undoubtedly it would be a must play for anyone with a PSVR that likes driving games, just as the 1st Dirt Rally currently is. I hope it happens but I think it would be sometime off if it does.
Playing Dirt 2 back in the day I used to spent alot of my time trying to set leaderboard records and listening to that sweet sound track. Haven't played a rally game since.
What a clickbait title... these games cannot even be compared. The first one is a nice rally game for advanced players (Dirt: Rally) and the second one is the rally ecosystem for people who want to get as close to real rally as possible. So even if Dirt: Rally offers proper physics (I admit it feels less arcadish now - the car finally seems to have some weight), it just cannot beat the complexity of RBR - the online championships, trophies, teams consisting and managed by real people, reality based events (i.e. Monte-Carlo rally where you can be forced to drive with slicks on snow) where you have chance to compare with real rally drivers (the best RBR drivers are mostly real drivers), way more content because the modding possibility (tracks, cars, VR etc.), way more precise force feedback, editable and detailed pacenotes etc...
I don't want to hate Dirt: Rally, it is a nice game (I love DR sound especially!) and even RBR is far from perfect, but - besides it's still very simplified physics - it would need to offer the same level of complexity and modability so the RBR community can even start thinking about switching.
Nothing yet has come close to RBR... end of story....
@Nick Cassetta force feedback doesn't pretend to be realistic, it's role is to substitute missing connection with the actual car, it gives the information about what is the car actually doing so you can drive it properly. In RBR the response is so detailed that you exactly know when you are loosing grip, what is the surface you are driving on, what is the damage, detect locking wheels while braking etc. In Dirt the FFB is just a fun factor.
Is this a joke??? I am shocked about people calling RBR a simulator.......
@@cougar231000 RBR is the only real simulator because no other rally game uses actual simulation for the physics - in RBR the car's behavior is a result of a math modelling of each car component, using exact data and real-world units. All other rally games works with a "driving model" that is tweaked for each car so it behaves like it should, using much simplified formular (look-up tables) = more limited and imprecise, not reacting to advanced driving techniques & conditions. Thats just how it works internally and why we can clearly tell what is a simulator and what is a challenging game. And just a note - even simulation can be imprecise of it doesn't work with correct data or doesn't implement necessary computations, so I don't say RBR is absolutely perfect.
th-cam.com/video/MEkqg7Cp62A/w-d-xo.html
@@jendabekCZ how do you know dirt doesn't use real data??? Plus i don't care, i just believe in what i experienced by playing both games, and richard burns rally definately DIDN'T feel like a simulation!!!!
Looks amazing. Glad I have my Deluxe preorder in place. Only three days to go...
Please let us know when you've refunded the game ;)