It's mostly about readability, I guess. For example, when the Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol gave +15hp you had no way to know unless it was out. But when a Scout has the Candy Cane the passive is negative so you aren't put at a disadvantage for not knowing if an enemy Scout has it or not.
After Breakfast To me, the passive effects that existed in TF2 weren't anything to worry over. The +15 health didn't change much, he'd still get headshot by a quickscope, it's still take 2 rockets to kill him, the only real point it would matter is final chip damage with say, the Pistol. Plus, 15 extra damage isn't anything to get too overfussed about. Most of the time I don't pay attention to the small amounts of damage difference it takes to kill classes. 220 health on Soldier is the same as if it still was 200. Now if it was something like +100, then yeah, it'd need to be visible. But anything that is just an extra Bat swing isn't anything to worry about. Plus, not many weapons had any passive bonuses on them to begin with.
medics could benefit from reversing the disguise of spies, however this just makes the heavy more vulnerable to trickstabs and more vulnerable to damage in general.
I like these, you put some good thought into them :D. 1) *Non-Minigun MG* Seeing something like an M2 Browning-armed Heavy would be a pretty interesting idea. I thought of that a bit myself a few years ago, I'd be all for it. 2) *Ballistic Shield* Yeess, I'd _love_ a ballistic shield-toting Heavy. Dunno about the regeneration, but otherwise I'm totally behind that idea. 3) *Grapple Heavy* That would certainly mix things up nicely. I hope Valve listens to you or at least makes something similar to these sometime.
Titan Slayer Aleks I guess that could be a point, but I mean, Heavy has had stuff from all over. Like the vaguely 19th century American-Native American Brass Beast set.
Wish we can combine the Cozy Camper and the Razorback from the sniper and make a heavy secondary where he can survive without a medic and survive a single backstab.
honestly, I would love a nerf to the wm1 strategy. I'm a pyro main (yes, fuck you shpees) and I'm sick of the chat always having shit like "oh shit a wm1 killed me"
I think the wepon will be better if it increases max hp instead of hp picked up from ammo boxes and the health regen should be bought down to a 6hp per second but it is basically a boot leger for heavy.
The sheild will be good for freindly playera since the enemy will take more to kill the heavy. oh and it also should increase the sandwich regen and the dalokahs bar overheal.
Your minigun delete straddles a thin line between the Fatscout oriented speed-boosting ones and the MMO-standard tank ones that make him even healthier. Hell, it reminds me of the Riot Shield from Modern Warfare 2 and 3. Wouldn't yours make the Fists of Steel redundant? What about a primary that trades the Minigun for speed, increased secondary ammo, and the ability to pick up Metal and throw down ammo packs for teammates? Carry three Sandviches and heal multiple teammates, help Engineers build faster, run around at "normal" speed (identical speed boost to the GRU, and stacks with it too), never let up with the shotty, be Dispenser Heavy!
while I like the idea, a support-type class with that much health is a bit crazy right? in most games supports have to be squishy, otherwise they become too hard to eliminate. then again, what can't a phlogistinator kill?
Justin Baskin You're *supposed* to waste countless ammo trying to eliminate him, in order for his teammates to come in and defeat you. That's what a tank is supposed to do, yes? There's also Fatscout, but Heavy's shotgun has a slower firing speed and lower damage than a Scattergun.
If the riot shield were a passive wearable like the demo shields, pretty sure it would stack with the FoS for a wonderful 90% damage resistance (if the bonus were applied additively) while crouched. As a heavy player who wants something other than Tomislav/Stock + Sandvich + GRU, that'd be a lot of fun-especially if I got a friend with the Vacc. Ultimate resistance. But I don't think the comp community would go for it, and they have Valve's ear for this one. I'm not even banking on new weapons at this point; too many times I've heard we're getting new weapons, only to be given disappointing reskins and balance changes beyond reasonable comprehension. Gimme back my Bison, Valve.
I feel like the first minigun would be way too similar in purpose and functionality to the Tomislav. Also, if you're going to introduce a shield into pubs, I would just bring over the Medic's Projectile Shield from MvM. Attach the shield feature to an entirely new Medi-gun, and boom! Less tanky Reinhardt.
I guess it would be kind of similar to the Tomislav in a way. But this gun would allow you to fire instantly, jump while shooting, move while crouching and shooting, and switch weapons at any point. Plus it can be more effective at range. At the cost of generally lower damage output and needing more precise aim.
HEY! shield is pretty good idea but i would like to change it a bit. if you hold the shield (by pressing mouse 2) you will gain a 100 health bar from the shield and it will give you 90% less knock back and cannot be crited when holding the shield when you have like 1 health and you pull out a shield and get like 150 damage the shield will brake but you won't get health damage and you will move 10% slower when you holding the shield when your not, you will move 10% faster and also you will take damage from behinde when you hold the shield and also when your not holding it will work as same as razor back and when your shield brakes you can fix it up by picking up ammo and yes, you can use your melee and secondary in that shield mod you could just tank a lot of damage if you take food with shield problem is that you will be a melee class.
Shotgun replacement +30% faster fire rate -50% smaller clip size +25% more pellets per shot -33% less damage +40% faster switch-to speed Used to swap to quickly to finish off enemies after a minigun spray or melee attacks, or picking off targets at closer ranges.
So I real love your ideas I think last one needs a rework suggestion: +each hit increases firing speed by 10% (up to +30% from -20%) +3 consecutive hits on the same target will crit on the 3rd +(hidden 50% reach) +on hit slows target for 3s (it's really makes a difference) -45% damage penalty -20% base firing speed
Idea to change the sheild (or have a different one) Replaces Minigun When equiped: 25% damage resistance to all sources +15% movement speed Alt-fire: Ram shield into ground. Placed shield has 150 health. cannot be repaired, cannot be picked up. must resupply after placing shield to get new shield. resupplying removes current placed shield.
The medic's helper Secondary slot It's a health pack that you hold It heals much more than a sandwich And had multiple uses, at the cost of losing your ability to heal thyself
back at it again with an idea (still mind my england) HEAVY (primary): the B-FAR 4 (Belt-Fed Automatic Rifle-4) neutral: instead of having a 200 bullet box-magazine it has a 50 bullet belt (takes 6.2 seconds to reload) Positives: +25% accuracy +33% bullet damage +10% movements speed no spinup +15% fire rate negatives: -25% reserve ammo -75% bullets per shot no ammo from dispensers -20% healing from medics +10% knockback from all sources
I've got few ideas! Name: "The Defence of Stalingrad" (Resembling anti-vehicle turret wirh gatling system.) Primary Stats: Cons -30% movement speed when used, +30% longer rev-up, -30% firing speed, Very loud rev-up. Pros +6/1 bullet/ammo ratio + press reload key to "deploy" deploying takes 1,5 second, undeploying takes 1 second. While deployed you take 30% less dmg, cannot move , it also locks you looking in chosen direction (100 degrees in front of you). and gain: (Combared to stock) +40% firing speed +20% dmg per bullet __________________________________ Name: "The Soviet winter" Shotgun secondary (Resembling PP-19 Bizon-2, but is a shotgun) Cons- -Only four shells in mag -50% firing speed. Pros- Reloads all four shells at once +50% dmg per pellet +on hit -20% movement speed for enemy, lasts 4 seconds, stacks up to 60% (Also on hit) +20% movement speed. Stacks up to 60% __________________________________ Name: "The Means of Production" Melee (something resembling the worker gloves in good ol' red.) Stats: Cons- -30% firing speed -5 max hp per second when used Pros- +35% dmg per hit on kill +40 max hp, stacks up to 380, and for 5 seconds the max health is not decreasing. All with soviet emblems. And another one, but this is crazy Name: "The Happiness Distiller" secondary Stats: Every 30 seconds you get a bottle of happiness, you can store up to 3 of them, dealing damage speeds up distilling (5 seconds with constant dmg.) Lmb- drink a bottle youself, why would you share? Upon drinking, Similiar to Dalokhas bar, except: +50% movement speed +10 hp per second +50% dmg and attack speed for melee - 20% accuracy with minigun Lasts for 10 seconds, drinking another one after efects expire only restores health for 20 seconds cooldown. Rmb Throw a glass of this magnificent drink for your friend to drink, (works like small medkit), four glasses from one bottle.
The press fire to load shots may not work on panic attack, but a minigun might work Minigun Replacement Hold Fire to load up to 50 ammo (0.8 second spun up=10 ammo loaded) +40% faster move speed while deployed 20% less accurate firing speed slowly decrese after firing for a while
This may be late to the party, but my idea is for something like the gunboats for the Heavy. The name of the boots would be called Trotsky's Trotters, based on Leo Trotsky. These boots would have a 75% knockback resistance from all sources, but at the cost of you having to be rev'd up for this to activate, with you also not being able to turn. In addition, when in the air, the user takes 75% more knockback, which, in theory, a smart/skilled heavy can surf using the rockets with the knockback. That's just my stupid idea, hope you peeps like it.
The Russian Keychain (or somtn like that) secondary Pros: Launches a big metal ball that deals a pretty good amount of damage. (Kinda like the loose cannon but wont explode) The ball will be pulled back to the gun with a chain. No ammo suply needed since the you always get the ball back. Crit boosts will make the ball go 2x as far. (with faster reload) Cons: The smallest clipsize (1) Slow reload speed Cant swap weapons untill the gun is reloaded If the player is being healed by a medic when the gun is being reloaded the medic will be as slow as the heavy. The effect will stay for 3 seconds after the healing stops.
Secondary: Shield. Always in use, even with minigun or melee out. Upside: 25% (more or less) defence from front. downside: 25% (more or less) damage taken from back, 10% longer spin up time.
The shield should: slow you down 25% when active 50% damage resist from all damage sources to the front when active Take mini-crits from behind when active
Shield idea! (My version) Pros 10% faster move speed on wearer 25% more health from all sources 10% damage resistance when active 5 health regenerated on wearer Crouch to activate shield ( *while shielded: 1: cannot movie 2: shotgun can only fire in a 120 degree angle 3: 50% damage resistance from 120 degrees up front 4: 20% damage Vulnerability from the 240 degrees from the back* ) Cons Replaces minigun!
[Heavy Weapon Ideas] (Fun to play with Edition) [1] [Heavy Secondary] Wonky Bar [+] While consumed: For the next 10 seconds. 33% Damage dealt gives 20 health every time you get attacked. (Depending on how much you are damage.) [+] 15% Faster movement speed on wearer [-] 40% Healing effect when eaten [+/-] Alt Fire: Share a chocolate bar with a Friend (Low-High Health Kit) [2] [Heavy Primary] Maxine.Co [+] 40% Faster movement speed while fully spun up [+] 40% Faster movement speed while firing [+] 30% Clip size [+] No move speed penalty while equipped [-] 25% Less accurate [-] 15% Damage penalty [-] 10% Ammo from dispenser on wearer [-] 5 Ammo consumed while spun up (Addition Information) Firing: 40+ Speed boost when shooting Fully spun up: 40+ Speed boost when shooting [3] [Heavy Secondary] Mann.Leg [+] While Consumed: You gain 35% Faster movement speed on wearer and mini-crits for 10 seconds [+] 15% Increased Re-charge Rate [-] During the effects: You can only use your melee weapon [-] No random critical hits [-] When the effects ended. And the user did not get a melee kill. You gain a 50% Decreased in movement speed on wearer for 5 seconds [-] 40% Healing effect while consumed [+/-] Alt Fire: Share a chicken leg with a Friend (Medium Health Kit) [4] [Heavy Secondary] Sandvich Miner [+] On Kill: Gain 70% Health [+] On Hit: Gain a 20. To 100% Movement speed boost based how close you are to a enemy [+] 20% Over-Heal on wearer [-] 90% Health rate from healer sources [-] 34% Clip size
Flamethrower replacement for piro: 10% more damage 30% less knockback from airblast 25% less ammo for fire Airblast and Fire use different ammo 1 airblast uses 1 "canister" of air (no reload time) If crit boosted fire range expands but does no extra damage
Weapon Idea: Mini-mini Gun Stats: Move speed: +20% Bullets per shot: -50% Spin up time: -50% Damage penalty: -25% This would basically be a Fat Scout dream weapon. Much like Alibabs Wee Booties/ Any of the shields this would transform the heavies role in a match.
here is more idea I had for a Minigun, it'd be kinda like the force-a-nature: it has +32%damage and knock back, and if shot at the ground can send the heavy into the air, however this weapon will have a -25% firing speed and cost 2 ammo to shoot resulting in a -50% clip size
Riot Set Riot-Chain - Does 2% more damage for every hit(35% Max) - Reduces back to normal by 5% per second when firing stops - +30% damage resistance when active - No random crits - Firing speed gets faster per shot - Increased Bullet Spread - Consumes 5 bullets per shot - For every shot, bullets are more focused in but reduces back to normal when firing stops Riot-Backpack - Increases damage resistance by 10% - Unnecessary Ammo is reserved(Refills minigun ammo after it runs out) - Nearby teammates receive small ammo packs per 10 second - Nearby teammates gain a 5% Damage resistance boost Riot-Baton - 40% chance to stun target on hit - 40% chance to crit(Regardless if there's no random crits) - -20% damage - +35% damage when weapon crits - Gains 5% Damage boost for every kill(6-kill boost Max)
Heavy Idea 1: "The Speedsters imitation" (This is a joke weapon to be used for the "Fat Scout" loadout) +User gains +5% movement speed and +10% Jump Height per kill(Stacks up to 5 times) -Replaces Minigun Heavy Idea 2: "The Juggernaut" (Armor) +50 Max Health on wearer +20% damage resistance +Increased knockback resistance +Alt-fire initiates a charge(Similar to the demomans) +Charge collision knocks away enemies +50% damage resistance and immunity to knockback while charging +Wearer cannot be backstabbed -Replaces Secondary -Charge cannot end abruptly(Once initiated you're going straight ahead) -Cannot turn while charging -Slows character and marks them for death for 5 seconds upon charge duration ending/colliding with an enemy
I have a weapon idea for when the heavy update comes out. The chips off the old bloc. It's a bag of potato chips. Stats: The weapon has 5 bars like the thermal thruster and recharges like the gas passer. Bars refill in 20 seconds or through 250 damage. Upon consumption, each bar gives heavy 50 hp and 12% global resistance while reducing his physical abilities (speed, jump, rev time) by 10% and applying a 15% heal and overheal penalty which lasts for 20 seconds. Damage dealt while under the effect will count towards the bar for half as much. (500 dmg = 1 bar) The taunt will be performed in sync with the sandvich eating taunt, with a chip being eaten at each "nom". Having less than five bars decreases the consumption time so it ends before he starts eating chips that he doesn't have. Up to three bars are lost upon death. Right clicking will use two bars to toss a small health kit onto the map. My idea behind this was to make the opposite of the buffalo steak, which would allow heavy to soak up lots of damage with something that would not have a fast passive recharge while applying the overheal/heal nerf on the FOS. Item card: The chips off the old bloc Level 1-100 Lunch Box +Can store up to five potato chips +Chips regenerate every 20 seconds or through damage done Upon consumption, each chip eaten will grant the user 50 health and 12% global damage resistance per chip while reducing the user's physical abilities by 10% while applying a 15% heal and overheal penalty. Lasts for 20 seconds. Consumption time depends on the number of chips eaten -All chips are used at once -While under the effects, damage done counts for half as much to the chip meter. -Three bars are lost upon death (Description) Better eat up, it's going to be a long, cold winter. Hope you take this into consideration!
The Uber Bar heavy weapon secondary slot stats: +25 uber rate for medics healing you +droping it on a medic will give him/she +25 health and +15% uber +50% more healing from dispensers and medics -cant pick up health packs (besides your Uber bar) -3 health drain per second and on the medic healing you purpose: only should use this when a medic is on your team it olso has a high risk high reward thing for medics healing you (3 health drain per second)
I got one The Macintosh Secondary consumable When eaten, 25% more jump height and speed 15% more damage Barely get any health from dispensers and med kits Cant be healed by *medics*
That things sucks. Heavy takes so much damage that he needs heals pretty frequently. That weapon makes it almost impossible for the heavy to get health back after use, especially since the minigun will leave you a sitting duck, but the a fists heavy will get too close to enemies to be saved once the effect runs out.
When you started talking about Little Mac I thought it would be some gloves that give you a guaranteed critical hit once you took/dealt enough damage with them active(activated by pressing M2 once some kinda charge is full)
+After Breakfast Something else that might be interesting is a gun similar to the first but it would be like a small artillery Gun with silent spinup that fires a bullet with a ark similar to a fully charged huntsman arrow that deals 50-100 damage (depending on distance) and penetrate up to 2 enemys. As downside it would have a 3 second reload time and a 1.5x longer spin up. I'm not shure about the stats but you get the idea.
My idea for a Roman Legionary Heavy weapon set, idk why I got it: Primary: a legionary shield +150 base hp +rechargeable alt-fire makes you unable to use any weapons, but it gives you 33% damage resistance -15% movement speed -50% healing from medic sources -75% overheal speed Secondary: a legionary eagle flagstaff Deal 600 melee damage to activate a rage mode, that gives melee minicrits, +15% melee swing speed and +30% movement speed for 8 seconds Melee: a gladius +10% melee damage +has a random chance to cause bleed (counted the same way as crits, but x2 or x3 probability) -15% melee swing speed This would add up to a total melee tank with an ability to become a mobile as fuck deadly killing machine
Pyro weapon ideas Match Maker: Melee weapon Similar to the sandman, we idling a melee and a throwable projectile Its a matchbox and a matchstick You can attack people with the matchbox at a -35 percent damage penalty Alternatively, you can throw lit matchsticks that linger on the ground for 5 seconds, then going out Can be reflected, and when vacuumed with the manmelter will remove its flame Matches wont light when out of flamethrower ammo 5 matches that regenerate at a slightly slower rate than the sandmans balls The Lingerer A trap made by a new flamethrower! this flamethrower has 2 different ammo capacities a 100 ammo flamethrower and a 250 ammo gasoline pourer When alt firing, you will drop gasoline, and when ignited (Can be ignited by bullets, fire, Ubercharge, and explosives) will light up in flames for 10 seconds Flames can be airblasted and put out (Or stored for crits with manmelter) with airblasts 10 percent damage increase on flamethrower slower firing speed on flamethrower slower holster and ready time cant be used on water cant airblast no random crits (God forbid critical gasoline)
Give him a gun that allows a self made uber charge pack it takes up 2nd slot so it's only main and fists . It builds charge based off of damage given, you can't over heal with this and a medic's uber doesn't work or burns up twice as fast.
IDEA: Propane Tank >SECONDARY< -when used with the Huo Long Heater or Friendly Pyros to mini-crit any flame-related-weapons >DESCRIPTION< Heavy has perfect job. Heavy sells Pro-Pain and Pro-Pain accessories.
I kinda like the sheild, but there are two things I think need changing: 1: Lower the health regen to just 3 per second. 10 is ridiculous. Even if it slows while taking damage. 2: Instead of being a bullet sponge while crouching, I think when you hit a button, the heavy lifts up the sheild, and it blocks 75% of all damage from the front. Obviously you still can't fire.
I think if in order to buff the Huo long heater we should start by removing by removing the ring of fire and replacing that with a 100% reduction to slowed move speed caused while being spun up. The 4 ammo per second would remain but I believe that it would compensate for the ammo loss allowing you bunny hop and play a more offensive flanker type of heavy load-out.
I think the grapple heavy could be a good idea, but I have a few suggestions. Instead of grappling, it'd probably be better for it to force both the attacker and the victim to stay immobile while a punch is thrown. Obviously the victim can still shoot and stuff. Also, it should be called the Popanski pummel, a reference to Soda Popanski, a Russian boxer from punch-out.
Primary: Working Class Warmachine +25% movement speed wearer +20 HP on wearer -20% accuracy -30% damage -50% ammo capacity weaker primary but fully charged head shots from non machina sniper rifles. faster at all times. Would change the ammo belt so enemies know you have the weapon equipped.
That shield could work will with this weapon that i came up with Shooty shoot shoot (secondary) -Has 10 shots per click -Each bullet does 16 damage -Has 6 shots -reloads all at once -50% less health from health packs (-Larger shoot sound) (-Reload makes big CLICK from reload)
Minigun replacement Every bullet that hits an enemy Heals 4 points of health On kill gain max overheal 450 health -15% damage 20% more accurate -10% firing speed
I've ALWAYS wanted a shield primary for the Heavy, his shotgun secondaries would be more useful (necessary even) and it would require a different play-style, this also makes sense in terms of the lore because if you've read the comics then you know that: 1: Heavy is a different person without his minigun (Stoic, serious, calm and calculated) 2: He has used a fence as a SHIELD!! So there's your weapon design right their.
I have an idea for Heavy Slot: Secondary Name: Healers Grade +100% Heath From Heal Sources -25% Heath From Heathpacks (Makes A Circle Around You That Heals Nearby Teammates Only When Your Getting Healed By A Medic)
two weapons i though up just now: (primary) A SOVIETS PANIC +33% spin up speed no slow down while spun up +50% rate of fire +2 extra bullets per unit of ammo -50% total ammo -33% bullet damage no critical hits (secondary) THE RUSSIAN CLASSIC (this would be like an AK47) +500% clip size +200% total ammo +125% damage per pellet +250% rate of fire reloads all bullets at once -25% reload speed -90% pellets per shot no random crits -10% less accurate btw you could make the shield able to be placed in front of you with alt-fire so it would shield and you would be able to attack enemys behind you while being shielded in the front
I would like the shield to behave like in Strike Force Heroes. There are actually many kinds of shields: (All of them is activated by crouching) 1. Meat Shield When active: Blocks 50% of incoming damage When active: 30% less accuracy 0% chance to reflect bullets or projectiles 2. Small shield (I don't remember its name that was given by the developers...) When active: Blocks 10% of incoming damage When active: No accuracy penalty 10% chance to reflect bullets or projectiles 3. Siegius (I don't remember its name properly that was given by the game's developers. The name refers to the dev's other game, Siegius Arena (or something...)) When active: Blocks 10% of incoming damage When active: 30% less accuracy 40% chance to reflect bullets or projectiles Blast shield When active: Blocks 10% of incoming damage (80% of explosive damage) When active: 30% less accuracy 10% chance to reflect bullets or projectiles
Except that the shield sucked. They provided an upside that had a relatively low chance to happen, if you were crouching AND facing your enemy, and doing so decreased your accuracy by a LOT (unless you had the Buckler, but it had lower resistances) and you get rid of a weapon that deals an arseload of damage and are forced to use your secodary, and unless you have one of the three or four best secondaries in the game, their damage output is extremely low.
I'm 2 years late but i decided to comment this since i recently got that idea. It's about the shield. I agree with it being a primary weapon and i also agree with the stats. The shield should not be active for these stats to work EXCEPT FOR ONE the damage resistance. And how i want the shield to work? Well by simply going from your secondary or melee to primary. When you don't hold your shield and you are at your secondary or melee, the shield will be on your back, preventing spyies backtabing you. Yes it would work like the rasorback but i still think this idea is pretty cool. About the others you mentioned in the vid, they just don't Interest me at all. What else i want from the heavy update? Buff brass, buffalo and spirit. And make the class more fun overall. I think heavy has been nerfed a lot and needs a lot of buffing. He doesn't feel like a "tank" class if you don't have a medic 24/7.
For a shield, i would give it the name "The Prison Breaker" (after the imposed idea that the broke out of prison, taking out all gaurds, and freeing everyone). It is a riot shield held on the left hand of the heavy, when equiped on the minigun slot, the heavy will take 35% less projectile and explosive damage, he cannot take headshots or fire damage from the front end. when pressing mouse 2, the heavy will push enemies away, or slam projectiles like rockets, and stickies back at the enemy. The secondary becomes 20% less acurrate, while the fist has full damage due to him only using one hand. This item could make the heavy a good support character. When using the shotgun, he has a new animation with a one armed pop reload like the terminator.
perhaps have the shield at SECONDARY, and go in front of you when you have the minigun reved, up, replacing the shotgun/sandvitch, reducing damage taken by around 30%, but maybe reducing movement speed by 15%. Maybe something like the booties for demo :) just a thought.
I had an idea for a sheild: A riot shield (not sure which class or slot), which would protect you from ANY attack from the front, as well as absorbing all knockback. The downsides; it would leave you open to attacks from all other sides, and would make you REALLY slow (like somewhere around half-ish the speed of a heavy), as well as doubling the draw and holstering time.
A weapon that worked like that would be very difficult to counter in some corridor heavy maps, and if a heavy is with his team, enemies wouldn't be able to get around him. Admittedly though, it gives him an interesting way to counter sentries.
I have a idea The Heavy Lunch (Replaces shotgun) · When eaten Health increeses to 400 ·Heals 400 hp ·65 sec recharge ·when eaten speed %10 less ·No knockback ·Takes 5 sec to eat ·Lunch Tantrum: if 50 dmg is taken while eating heavy will gain crits for 5 sec but food will be gone.
Firstly, heavy does not need mobility. He needs to 1v1 a scout running at him and not lose almost all his health because of how meatshots work. 1: This can be an overpowered or useless weapon depending on how bullet spread would work for it. 2: Good stats, but having to crouch to activate the shield means two things. You are sniper and spy bait, and I mean even moreso than usual. 3: What's the point of a grappling hook weapon if you have to hit them in melee anyway? I have two suggestions of my own, both for the secondary weapon. 1: A secondary that blocks backstabs but sacrifices your utility completely so you cannot sandvitch medic. 2: A secondary that blocks headshots, but sacrifices your sandvitch. If this sounds overpowered, consider the following. It is a counter weapon for the normal instant kill classes but heavy is split between countering one or the other. And guess what. You can switch classes to counter this counter weapon. Here's the cons. Your medic will die more often to general enemy fire due to no sandvitches, spy has a gun, sniper can bodyshot, heavy is a huge slow moving target and snipers + spies can simply kill more priority targets. Is it a class change item? No. It is a simple blocking item, something that fits the general play style of heavy and makes heavy relevant in maps that favour snipers and spies. Valve give me money.
Another suggestion for the Mini-gun replacement shield, Wearer can not be undercharged and is marked for death while being healed from medics. Might seem like too much but feel free to add input.
The shield would be a viable choice for the Fat Scout playstyle... We might see your ideas in-game, if 1. Any members of the TF team see this video 2. They think the ideas might fit in the game 3. Heavy wins in Heavy vs Pyro (as of now, Pyro leads by 4%, bear in mind this might drastically change, eg. how Brexit went.)
I had this idea for the heavy to make him more viable as a class in competitive mode and I'd like to know what you guys think. what if when he had his minigun spun up a heavy would have a mechanic that would function similarly to the charged battalions backup for soldier where teammates would get a small defence buff when close to the heavy. maybe like 20% or so. the mechanic could be called "morale" or something. it would be very helpful for the team including fitting in with the whole defence class mentality of the heavy, additionally it adds more strategy to a match.
personally I think the shield is an interesting idea, but the one thing I'd change is since most heavy equipable shotguns don't have right click function, the shield could be moved to R mouse to activate instead of crouch, same slowness and effects, just a more convinient button config.
tbh the minigun idea is quite similar to an idea I've had, call it a heavy machinegun rather then a minigun, however no spinup and very accurate, a good way to keep a sniper suppressed, and to keep heavy at his base trash speed would also be a large buff for shotguns if it preformed very poorly at close range, you would need to question if this heavy has his secondary for healing himself and his team or to cover his weakness, which would make him a more fun class to fight, as well as vastly increases his spy checking capabilities without being very inconvenient
There should be a primary for him called the Heavy Backpack maybe. 2+ Health Regeneration On wearer. 50% more ammo on secondary. 10% Faster Melee Swing Speed. Survive one backstab but lose all bonuses for 20 seconds. Backstab protection can only be regained with resupply. (I saw a comment down there and thought of this, since you're removing his gun it has no downsides, tell me if ya like it)
I have an idea RIOT shield (primary): when not holding right click: can't have a minigun and shield wont work upon holding right click (makes a shield): has a durability can absorb over 1000 damage before having the shield break crits will do 2x more damage to your shield it means 195 × 2 + block all bullets,rockets,sentrys melee attacks, and etc exept lasers that are what ever direction your facing -15 percent speed - only supply cabinets can replace it -if you get flanked your dead RIOT ARMOR(secondary) +200 more health + 25 more resistant to bullet, fire , and explosives + 35 percent resistant to crits and sentry -15 speed (heavy armor) -can still get one shot by a spy via a backstab Baton(melee) + upon hitting a enemy damage ramps up by 25 more damage the more you hit them ( it resets every 3 seconds) - 20 less damage +25 firing speed +switches to weapon 30 percent faster -no random crits
the gaming Kelvin While I absolutely support (love, actually) the idea of a melee-focused Heavy subclass, you're proposing that we take the slowest class in the game, with 73% movement speed, and drop that speed down to 43%. Even if the weapons were great ideas, the speed debuff alone would make them useless even in defense, since the enemy can just backpedal.
Here are some spy weapon idea (dont have names yet) Knife: after successful stab spy will receive 30% less fire, explosives, bullet resistance, 20% less health Sapper: 50% more damage, 40% less sapper life Pistol: 20% faster firing speed ,10% more clip size, 15% damage penalty
Heavy needs a minigun that works like a backscatter, less dmg and fire rate but faster deploy and grants minicrits from behind. It will combo well with the GRU
I like the idea of the shield, but I would probably only use it in Medieval Mode. Also, here's a stupid idea I had. It's probably pretty bad, but it is a complete weapon aside from not having a model. I'd call it The Sandvich Flask (or something like that). It's a secondary consumable that is a bottle of vodka. It functions exactly like the Buffalo Steak Sandvich, except it grants a speed boost instead of a damage boost, as well as a damage resistance. The main use of this weapon is to help Heavies get from spawn to the front faster and with less risk of death along the way, at the cost of the ability to self-heal (it can still be dropped for teammates as a medium health pack).
I feel like the shield would work best as a passive damage resistance, with its ability being a shield bash of some sort (like the new push with the shortstop, but with damage!). It would pair well with the shotguns, as the shield would encourage you pushing forward because you can tank the damage, and the shield bash would be a great function for clearing objectives, while you can pelt people still close with your secondary. The whole not being able to attack thing makes you a glorified hoovy, and honestly, a mini gun replacement should do more than take away your secondary guns, it should alter how you use them.
a weapon idea i have for heavy, it is not really a weapon but instead another lunchbox item the Bagel sandvich when eaten it grants you immortality for 15 seconds does not require cooldown can only be eaten 4 times in one life -20% damage to enemies when invincible +50% health bonus if given to teammates it gives them mini crits for 6 seconds does not heal teammates giving it to players requires cool down for a new bagel sandvich 40 second cooldown 5 second chewing duration
Idea for mini-gun replacement, The M.A.N.N Shield: gives heavy the power to smack enemys and some times stunning them, can not be back stabbed, can be turned on and off with crouching or pressing middle mouse, can not be killed by headshot damage while in use. 35% armor vs any type of damage, while critted you can block 50% damage from all sources. shield can be destroyed from Demoman charging. can use shotgun or melee and boosted damage on melee while having a shield out. takes 10% more damage from attacks from behind and the shield adds 200 more HP but at the cost of Ammo 20% of support weapon ammo and can not restock ammo from packs dropped by players. if Shield is destroyed heavy becomes bonked and it stays around for 3 seconds at 50% hp, 6 for 90% and 2 seconds at 15% the lower the health the faster heavy can run, he gets 4 seconds of the demomans charging speed when fleeing if shield is destroyed while bonk is still in effect. with the shield destroyed heavy takes 10% more damage from all sources.
I got an idea after watching your balance videos and I thought about what happened to the Shortstop and how it now has an alt-fire and your idea for heavy's shield. What if there were a change to the Fists-of-Steel in that they would have an alt fire that would have heavy bring his fists close to him in a blocking fashion and make him somewhat like moving cover for allies. Maybe expand his hitbox in this just slightly to increase effectiveness. IT might be good for a sacrificial play or getting a medic or other injured ally to safety. Obviously, heavy would be the one taking damage at a usual rate. Unless a buff or nerf could be worked in. What do you think?
Idea for the shield: +45% overall (Aka Passive) damage vulnerability Any and all damage dealt to you from the 180 degrees where you're aiming will be blocked 40% (could be knocked down to like 25% instead of 40 but meh) of all damage blocked will be health gained to you and any nearby teammates in a small radius Replaces both the minigun and the secondary Shotgun is stock
sorry for bad grammars What would i like to see is a buff to the Huo-long heater. This wepons set a ring of fire and use a lot of amo, but why not give it a buff The buff will be when right-cliking, instead of a ring of fire, every 4 bullet burn the ennemis, this will keep the idea of burning people while using amo and the downside will be you can't spin up whit this minigun. i think this is a great idea, are you thinkng the same ways?
I have an Idea for a minigun; its like a cow mangler for heavy where it can charge shot STATS: +No spin up needed +20% Less damage dropoff alt fire for a charged shot that can do 100 damage -No random crits -charged shot deals 20 damage to user when fired -10% less damage when not using charged shot.
if this were to be added, it probably should receive more downsides, 10% penalty isn't much and 20 damage isn't much for a class that almost completely relies on health.
I like the idea of a shield, this is my personal take on what I think personally would work better: Instead of replacing his source of firepower, the shield should replace his secondary, sacrificing a source of health for a source of protection. Because of this it should be nerfed more. I think it should be able to only absorb 600 damage, and similar to other regenerating items it wouldn't be able to be used for 20 seconds once enough damage has been taken. Making it switch to a third person view is a pretty good idea, so that wouldn't change. Since it should be used mostly defensively if you take damage with the shield it should slow you down by 20% for 0.2 seconds. What do you think?
New minigun: Faster speed while reved up up to +30%, that decays after one second not reved up, and -10% speed while deployed. Also a 10% slower rev up time.
Mentioning Little Mac gave me an other idea for an alternative melee. As you get damaged, it charges up a rage bar, and once it's full, you get one controlled melee critical that you can use whenever you want. The obvious downside would be that this weapon can't get random crits, and possibly slightly reduced damage, considering that crits on command far outweighs the loss of random crits, and the fact that taking damage is sort of Heavy's job.
I thought of one that would be a medie gun replacement... but after some thinking I thought how little this gun would be used... Medy gun replacement Ups Hp regen on play when healing ally. [This only goes up if hp on ally is going up, otherwise it stays where it is.] Appon uber deployment, target and player is ubered and crized for 8 seconds Downs Deployment and puting away this "weapon" is 50% slower Movement speed on player is cut by 30% It takes 50% Longer to reach ubber Odd effect. If you encounter an enimey, you can "Heal" them, stealing their uber [if medic] and cutting their hp. [because that ubber thing they all have in their chest attached to their heart... in short, you heal an enimy to their heart failer, so it is the only medi gun that can do damage to enimies.] Stealing uber from an medic will slowly add their uber to your tank. Uber steal, 5% per second attached. Damage to enimy is 5 per second attached. What ya guys think?
weapon idea The Heavy Killer primary replacement +15% damage (× by 5% when ubered by a medic) -30% hp on wear if fired for 5 seconds it will start to overheat and take 10 seconds to cool down part of my set for the heavy called:The Ubered Heavy
my little idea that goes together with that shield, a slug gun. it only fires singular bullets with a higher damage and handles somewhat like the revolver (first shot always accurate). this shotgun would do better at longer ranges compared to the stock shotgun at longer ranges, but does less damage up close compared to a shotgun. lets say a base damage of 50, higher then a revolver at 40 and less then a shotgun at 6 X 10.
If you can switch off gloves while remaining grappled, I could see you being able to grapple, pull out shotgun to shot them right in their face, most likely killing, and then use the shield to block damage for an escape if needed.
+30% bonus "healthing"
Then it says +50%... Can I go 1 video without a typo?
No
shield reminds me of a web game called strike force heroes
What sbout heavy does dual wield shotguns or a super shotgun
I had the shield idea but for different things
That shield is literally Reinhardt.
If they add that shield, it should be called the Russian resistance!
Or the Rasputin Roadblock
Oh DAMN that's good!
General Pootis Thanks!
Gorbachevs wall!
I would call it the iron curtain but there's already a minigun reskin named that
HEAVY CANNOT PART WITH SASCHA
he replaced sasha with natasha and tomislav.
+DogeCommander
Shasha ish ashleep
+Thewhiplash1231 also brass he replaced Sasha with brass
+Cykopath From Gacha World
iz wrong person comrade
Poker Night at the Inventory.
"Goodbye, my love."
Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that Valve thinks passive bonuses are bad but passive negatives are OK? Seems kind of hypocritical to me.
It's mostly about readability, I guess. For example, when the Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol gave +15hp you had no way to know unless it was out. But when a Scout has the Candy Cane the passive is negative so you aren't put at a disadvantage for not knowing if an enemy Scout has it or not.
After Breakfast To me, the passive effects that existed in TF2 weren't anything to worry over. The +15 health didn't change much, he'd still get headshot by a quickscope, it's still take 2 rockets to kill him, the only real point it would matter is final chip damage with say, the Pistol. Plus, 15 extra damage isn't anything to get too overfussed about. Most of the time I don't pay attention to the small amounts of damage difference it takes to kill classes. 220 health on Soldier is the same as if it still was 200. Now if it was something like +100, then yeah, it'd need to be visible. But anything that is just an extra Bat swing isn't anything to worry about. Plus, not many weapons had any passive bonuses on them to begin with.
+Mochi Sandvich the dahlokahs bar has saved me countless times with its extra 50 health
Bobby Ferg That's not a passive bonus. That's what the weapon gives you when you use it.
Resistances are kind of like a passive bonuses, and plenty of weapons have them...
New shotguns
NEED
yes
more shotguns pls.
Badoodles A sandvich that shoots shotguns as bullets
+RonaldMcJuicy
Yes
Shotgun that shoots SANDVICHES
The Fat Medic
Badoodles Awwwww yeah
+RonaldMcJuicy
Uncle Stinky would love it
i think there should be a weapon for heavy that does 40% less damage, but has knock back and can undisguise spy's and is a melee weapon
why should it undisguise spy's? wouldn't that be more useful to engi or sniper instead? (but great idea)
you slap the mask of and it could be helpful to both sniper and engie
but why make heavy the spy slapper?
he is too slow to follow the spy it would be easier for him to just shoot the spy
medics could benefit from reversing the disguise of spies, however this just makes the heavy more vulnerable to trickstabs and more vulnerable to damage in general.
i think that idea is quite nice.
As a Fat Scout, i like the Shield idea, gives purpose to the Shotgun/FB, FB my fav secondary for Heavy
but, considering Heavy, he really doesnt need that Health regen bonus at all
I like these, you put some good thought into them :D.
1) *Non-Minigun MG*
Seeing something like an M2 Browning-armed Heavy would be a pretty interesting idea. I thought of that a bit myself a few years ago, I'd be all for it.
2) *Ballistic Shield*
Yeess, I'd _love_ a ballistic shield-toting Heavy. Dunno about the regeneration, but otherwise I'm totally behind that idea.
3) *Grapple Heavy*
That would certainly mix things up nicely.
I hope Valve listens to you or at least makes something similar to these sometime.
Well, it probably wouldn't be an M2 Browning, considering Heavy has Soviet and Russian based weapons.
Titan Slayer Aleks I guess that could be a point, but I mean, Heavy has had stuff from all over. Like the vaguely 19th century American-Native American Brass Beast set.
***** That could probably work, as well.
What about adding roller blades as a secondary item. the would give heavy a lot of speed but also increase knock back
Wish we can combine the Cozy Camper and the Razorback from the sniper and make a heavy secondary where he can survive without a medic and survive a single backstab.
so you want to make heavy the only viable class in tf2?
+Moist Young Well he wasn't very viable to begin with among the mercs.
+Lew Jia Shen and it will remain that because team pyro is winning :'(
+Moist Young IKR, god dammit you f2p WM1s
honestly, I would love a nerf to the wm1 strategy. I'm a pyro main (yes, fuck you shpees) and I'm sick of the chat always having shit like "oh shit a wm1 killed me"
I have a feeling that in the Demoman video After Breakfast will include a Grenade Launcher that is similar to the x10 grenade launcher
a panic attack/ beggers bazooka for demoman
called it
Shield + Dalokoh's Bar + Grapple-Fists = Large Angry Distraction Heavy
Shield+Dalokah´s bar+ Fists of Steel= Undestroyable Heavy
And Medic´s Overheal as a bonus. I like your set idea a lot
I think the wepon will be better if it increases max hp instead of hp picked up from ammo boxes and the health regen should be bought down to a 6hp per second but it is basically a boot leger for heavy.
The sheild will be good for freindly playera since the enemy will take more to kill the heavy. oh and it also should increase the sandwich regen and the dalokahs bar overheal.
Your minigun delete straddles a thin line between the Fatscout oriented speed-boosting ones and the MMO-standard tank ones that make him even healthier. Hell, it reminds me of the Riot Shield from Modern Warfare 2 and 3. Wouldn't yours make the Fists of Steel redundant?
What about a primary that trades the Minigun for speed, increased secondary ammo, and the ability to pick up Metal and throw down ammo packs for teammates? Carry three Sandviches and heal multiple teammates, help Engineers build faster, run around at "normal" speed (identical speed boost to the GRU, and stacks with it too), never let up with the shotty, be Dispenser Heavy!
THE POOTIS MAN!
That should be the name.
And it should be a backpack looking like a dispenser.
while I like the idea, a support-type class with that much health is a bit crazy right? in most games supports have to be squishy, otherwise they become too hard to eliminate. then again, what can't a phlogistinator kill?
Justin Baskin
You're *supposed* to waste countless ammo trying to eliminate him, in order for his teammates to come in and defeat you. That's what a tank is supposed to do, yes?
There's also Fatscout, but Heavy's shotgun has a slower firing speed and lower damage than a Scattergun.
If the riot shield were a passive wearable like the demo shields, pretty sure it would stack with the FoS for a wonderful 90% damage resistance (if the bonus were applied additively) while crouched. As a heavy player who wants something other than Tomislav/Stock + Sandvich + GRU, that'd be a lot of fun-especially if I got a friend with the Vacc. Ultimate resistance. But I don't think the comp community would go for it, and they have Valve's ear for this one. I'm not even banking on new weapons at this point; too many times I've heard we're getting new weapons, only to be given disappointing reskins and balance changes beyond reasonable comprehension. Gimme back my Bison, Valve.
As soon as I saw "fists replacement" I immediately thought of heavy's hands getting chopped clean off with an eyelander.
My only issue here is the first one. The -50% on holster is VERY heavy. Maybe -25%/-30%?
It brings the switch from .5s to .75s. Slower but still faster than having to bring up a normal minigun and switch.
_badum tssss_
"as long as valve doesn't nerf the fists of running urgently into he ground" big oof
REINHEAVY!!!- Maybe make shield a melee that disables primary slot but you can shield bash that has an airblast effect? Eh? EH???
So a shortstop shield basically.
31Tancos Tracey But it does a little bit of damage and reflects projectiles if timed VERY well, while heavy shoves the shield absorbs 50% less damage.
I feel like the first minigun would be way too similar in purpose and functionality to the Tomislav.
Also, if you're going to introduce a shield into pubs, I would just bring over the Medic's Projectile Shield from MvM. Attach the shield feature to an entirely new Medi-gun, and boom! Less tanky Reinhardt.
I guess it would be kind of similar to the Tomislav in a way. But this gun would allow you to fire instantly, jump while shooting, move while crouching and shooting, and switch weapons at any point. Plus it can be more effective at range. At the cost of generally lower damage output and needing more precise aim.
So first one is basically Browning automatic rifle, aka BAR
Heavy being Russian, I imagine him springing for an RPD or RPK.
+Samniss Arandeen Due to the nature, of its incredibly slow fire rate and the heavies play style, perhaps an anti tank rifle?
Derick Villatoro
Okay, so a PTRS-41 then? It's a Soviet semi-automatic anti-tank rifle.
Yes, Heavy would make the best sniper. Slap a scope on that bitch and watch the gibs fly.
*****
Fuck, get the Sniper a Barrett M82 anti-materiel rifle and let the two of them wreck Engie's shit.
I love the shield idea, it had more depth than I expected and sounds like a ton of fun!
Pyro vs Heavy for the summer update
So the 2 Most Over Powered Classes fighting?
+TomaHawk
The war between Soldier and Demoman was in 2009! Heyoo!
+TomaHawk found the f2p
I have 994 Hours Lol steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198185007595/
+TomaHawk if you really do, then you must be absolutely awful to think heavy and pyro are overpowered
HEY!
shield is pretty good idea but i would like to change it a bit.
if you hold the shield (by pressing mouse 2) you will gain a 100 health bar from the shield
and it will give you 90% less knock back
and cannot be crited when holding the shield
when you have like 1 health and you pull out a shield and get like 150 damage
the shield will brake but you won't get health damage
and you will move 10% slower when you holding the shield
when your not, you will move 10% faster
and also you will take damage from behinde when you hold the shield
and also when your not holding it will work as same as razor back
and when your shield brakes you can fix it up by picking up ammo
and yes, you can use your melee and secondary in that shield mod
you could just tank a lot of damage if you take food with shield
problem is that you will be a melee class.
p.s
the shield will be perfect for my heavy dark knight(not batman) armor
1:Russian railgun
2: The Soviet Shield
3: the communist fist
Shotgun replacement
+30% faster fire rate
-50% smaller clip size
+25% more pellets per shot
-33% less damage
+40% faster switch-to speed
Used to swap to quickly to finish off enemies after a minigun spray or melee attacks, or picking off targets at closer ranges.
Your profile pic matches the video.
You know what I mean, comrade
+Pan_Karmeleq да
Lol heavy Slowly becoming reinhardt, give him reinhardt cosmetics next
How to piss off players from both games
Give Tf2 Overwatch themed hats,cosmetics, and unusual effects.
Give Overwatch Tf2 themed legendary skins.
i would be okay with that as i play both games and i would buy the shit out of a scout tracer gold skin
Soireal I'm not talking about people who genuinely like both games, I'm talking about the people who wants either one of the games to die.
Pear Rahna also known as the angry fanboys who dont know how a rivalry can and will improve both games for the consumers
yeah, fuck those fanboys (gays).
I want heavy to get some kind of bulletproof vest for secondary.
I would rather it be a primary, with some sort of assault shotgun as secondary. Make the fat scout strategy work.
So I real love your ideas I think last one needs a rework
suggestion:
+each hit increases firing speed by 10% (up to +30% from -20%)
+3 consecutive hits on the same target will crit on the 3rd
+(hidden 50% reach)
+on hit slows target for 3s (it's really makes a difference)
-45% damage penalty
-20% base firing speed
your scree shot looks like your a crazy fan girl lol
Idea to change the sheild (or have a different one)
Replaces Minigun
When equiped:
25% damage resistance to all sources
+15% movement speed
Alt-fire: Ram shield into ground. Placed shield has 150 health. cannot be repaired, cannot be picked up. must resupply after placing shield to get new shield. resupplying removes current placed shield.
The medic's helper
Secondary slot
It's a health pack that you hold
It heals much more than a sandwich
And had multiple uses, at the cost of losing your ability to heal thyself
back at it again with an idea (still mind my england)
HEAVY (primary):
the B-FAR 4 (Belt-Fed Automatic Rifle-4)
neutral: instead of having a 200 bullet box-magazine it has a 50 bullet belt (takes 6.2 seconds to reload)
Positives:
+25% accuracy
+33% bullet damage
+10% movements speed
no spinup
+15% fire rate
negatives:
-25% reserve ammo
-75% bullets per shot
no ammo from dispensers
-20% healing from medics
+10% knockback from all sources
I've got few ideas!
Name: "The Defence of Stalingrad"
(Resembling anti-vehicle turret wirh gatling system.)
Primary
Stats:
Cons
-30% movement speed when used,
+30% longer rev-up,
-30% firing speed,
Very loud rev-up.
Pros
+6/1 bullet/ammo ratio
+ press reload key to "deploy" deploying takes 1,5 second, undeploying takes 1 second.
While deployed you take 30% less dmg, cannot move , it also locks you looking in chosen direction (100 degrees in front of you). and gain:
(Combared to stock)
+40% firing speed
+20% dmg per bullet
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Name: "The Soviet winter"
Shotgun secondary
(Resembling PP-19 Bizon-2, but is a shotgun)
Cons-
-Only four shells in mag
-50% firing speed.
Pros-
Reloads all four shells at once
+50% dmg per pellet
+on hit -20% movement speed for enemy, lasts 4 seconds, stacks up to 60%
(Also on hit) +20% movement speed. Stacks up to 60%
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Name: "The Means of Production"
Melee (something resembling the worker gloves in good ol' red.)
Stats:
Cons-
-30% firing speed
-5 max hp per second when used
Pros-
+35% dmg per hit
on kill +40 max hp, stacks up to 380, and for 5 seconds the max health is not decreasing.
All with soviet emblems.
And another one, but this is crazy
Name: "The Happiness Distiller"
secondary
Stats:
Every 30 seconds you get a bottle of happiness, you can store up to 3 of them, dealing damage speeds up distilling (5 seconds with constant dmg.)
Lmb-
drink a bottle youself, why would you share?
Upon drinking, Similiar to Dalokhas bar, except:
+50% movement speed
+10 hp per second
+50% dmg and attack speed for melee
- 20% accuracy with minigun
Lasts for 10 seconds, drinking another one after efects expire only restores health for 20 seconds cooldown.
Rmb
Throw a glass of this magnificent drink for your friend to drink, (works like small medkit), four glasses from one bottle.
These idea's were clearly thought out breakfast. good job man :)
The press fire to load shots may not work on panic attack, but a minigun might work
Minigun Replacement
Hold Fire to load up to 50 ammo (0.8 second spun up=10 ammo loaded)
+40% faster move speed while deployed
20% less accurate
firing speed slowly decrese after firing for a while
This may be late to the party, but my idea is for something like the gunboats for the Heavy. The name of the boots would be called Trotsky's Trotters, based on Leo Trotsky. These boots would have a 75% knockback resistance from all sources, but at the cost of you having to be rev'd up for this to activate, with you also not being able to turn. In addition, when in the air, the user takes 75% more knockback, which, in theory, a smart/skilled heavy can surf using the rockets with the knockback.
That's just my stupid idea, hope you peeps like it.
The Russian Keychain (or somtn like that)
secondary
Pros:
Launches a big metal ball that deals a pretty good amount of damage. (Kinda like the loose cannon but wont explode)
The ball will be pulled back to the gun with a chain.
No ammo suply needed since the you always get the ball back.
Crit boosts will make the ball go 2x as far. (with faster reload)
Cons:
The smallest clipsize (1)
Slow reload speed
Cant swap weapons untill the gun is reloaded
If the player is being healed by a medic when the gun is being reloaded the medic will be as slow as the heavy. The effect will stay for 3 seconds after the healing stops.
Secondary: Shield.
Always in use, even with minigun or melee out.
Upside: 25% (more or less) defence from front.
downside: 25% (more or less) damage taken from back,
10% longer spin up time.
i dont really know why but i love your intro m8
The shield should:
slow you down 25% when active
50% damage resist from all damage sources to the front when active
Take mini-crits from behind when active
It would normally slow you down by about 60%. Crouching move speed is 33% or normal move speed.
Shield idea! (My version)
Pros
10% faster move speed on wearer
25% more health from all sources
10% damage resistance when active
5 health regenerated on wearer
Crouch to activate shield ( *while shielded: 1: cannot movie 2: shotgun can only fire in a 120 degree angle 3: 50% damage resistance from 120 degrees up front 4: 20% damage Vulnerability from the 240 degrees from the back* )
Cons
Replaces minigun!
[Heavy Weapon Ideas]
(Fun to play with Edition)
[1] [Heavy Secondary] Wonky Bar
[+] While consumed: For the next 10 seconds. 33% Damage dealt gives 20 health every time you get attacked. (Depending on how much you are damage.)
[+] 15% Faster movement speed on wearer
[-] 40% Healing effect when eaten
[+/-] Alt Fire: Share a chocolate bar with a Friend
(Low-High Health Kit)
[2] [Heavy Primary] Maxine.Co
[+] 40% Faster movement speed while fully spun up
[+] 40% Faster movement speed while firing
[+] 30% Clip size
[+] No move speed penalty while equipped
[-] 25% Less accurate
[-] 15% Damage penalty
[-] 10% Ammo from dispenser on wearer
[-] 5 Ammo consumed while spun up
(Addition Information)
Firing: 40+ Speed boost when shooting
Fully spun up: 40+ Speed boost when shooting
[3] [Heavy Secondary] Mann.Leg
[+] While Consumed: You gain 35% Faster movement speed on wearer and mini-crits for 10 seconds
[+] 15% Increased Re-charge Rate
[-] During the effects: You can only use your melee weapon
[-] No random critical hits
[-] When the effects ended. And the user did not get a melee kill. You gain a 50% Decreased in movement speed on wearer for 5 seconds
[-] 40% Healing effect while consumed
[+/-] Alt Fire: Share a chicken leg with a Friend
(Medium Health Kit)
[4] [Heavy Secondary] Sandvich Miner
[+] On Kill: Gain 70% Health
[+] On Hit: Gain a 20. To 100% Movement speed boost based how close you are to a enemy
[+] 20% Over-Heal on wearer
[-] 90% Health rate from healer sources
[-] 34% Clip size
Flamethrower replacement for piro:
10% more damage
30% less knockback from airblast
25% less ammo for fire
Airblast and Fire use different ammo
1 airblast uses 1 "canister" of air (no reload time)
If crit boosted fire range expands but does no extra damage
Imagine MvM with the shield. It could be an alternative when the medic has no more medigun-shield
Weapon Idea:
Mini-mini Gun
Stats:
Move speed: +20%
Bullets per shot: -50%
Spin up time: -50%
Damage penalty: -25%
This would basically be a Fat Scout dream weapon. Much like Alibabs Wee Booties/ Any of the shields this would transform the heavies role in a match.
here is more idea I had for a Minigun, it'd be kinda like the force-a-nature:
it has +32%damage and knock back, and if shot at the ground can send the heavy into the air, however this weapon will have a -25% firing speed and cost 2 ammo to shoot resulting in a -50% clip size
Riot Set
Riot-Chain
- Does 2% more damage for every hit(35% Max)
- Reduces back to normal by 5% per second when firing stops
- +30% damage resistance when active
- No random crits
- Firing speed gets faster per shot
- Increased Bullet Spread
- Consumes 5 bullets per shot
- For every shot, bullets are more focused in but reduces back to normal when firing stops
Riot-Backpack
- Increases damage resistance by 10%
- Unnecessary Ammo is reserved(Refills minigun ammo after it runs out)
- Nearby teammates receive small ammo packs per 10 second
- Nearby teammates gain a 5% Damage resistance boost
Riot-Baton
- 40% chance to stun target on hit
- 40% chance to crit(Regardless if there's no random crits)
- -20% damage
- +35% damage when weapon crits
- Gains 5% Damage boost for every kill(6-kill boost Max)
Heavy Idea 1: "The Speedsters imitation" (This is a joke weapon to be used for the "Fat Scout" loadout)
+User gains +5% movement speed and +10% Jump Height per kill(Stacks up to 5 times)
-Replaces Minigun
Heavy Idea 2: "The Juggernaut" (Armor)
+50 Max Health on wearer
+20% damage resistance
+Increased knockback resistance
+Alt-fire initiates a charge(Similar to the demomans)
+Charge collision knocks away enemies
+50% damage resistance and immunity to knockback while charging
+Wearer cannot be backstabbed
-Replaces Secondary
-Charge cannot end abruptly(Once initiated you're going straight ahead)
-Cannot turn while charging
-Slows character and marks them for death for 5 seconds upon charge duration ending/colliding with an enemy
I have a weapon idea for when the heavy update comes out. The chips off the old bloc. It's a bag of potato chips.
Stats: The weapon has 5 bars like the thermal thruster and recharges like the gas passer.
Bars refill in 20 seconds or through 250 damage.
Upon consumption, each bar gives heavy 50 hp and 12% global resistance while reducing his physical abilities (speed, jump, rev time) by 10% and applying a 15% heal and overheal penalty which lasts for 20 seconds. Damage dealt while under the effect will count towards the bar for half as much. (500 dmg = 1 bar) The taunt will be performed in sync with the sandvich eating taunt, with a chip being eaten at each "nom". Having less than five bars decreases the consumption time so it ends before he starts eating chips that he doesn't have. Up to three bars are lost upon death. Right clicking will use two bars to toss a small health kit onto the map.
My idea behind this was to make the opposite of the buffalo steak, which would allow heavy to soak up lots of damage with something that would not have a fast passive recharge while applying the overheal/heal nerf on the FOS.
Item card:
The chips off the old bloc
Level 1-100 Lunch Box
+Can store up to five potato chips
+Chips regenerate every 20 seconds or through damage done
Upon consumption, each chip eaten will grant the user 50 health and 12% global damage resistance per chip while reducing the user's physical abilities by 10% while applying a 15% heal and overheal penalty. Lasts for 20 seconds.
Consumption time depends on the number of chips eaten
-All chips are used at once
-While under the effects, damage done counts for half as much to the chip meter.
-Three bars are lost upon death
(Description) Better eat up, it's going to be a long, cold winter.
Hope you take this into consideration!
The Uber Bar
heavy weapon
secondary slot
stats:
+25 uber rate for medics healing you
+droping it on a medic will give him/she +25 health and +15% uber
+50% more healing from dispensers and medics
-cant pick up health packs (besides your Uber bar)
-3 health drain per second and on the medic healing you
purpose: only should use this when a medic is on your team it olso has a high risk high reward thing for medics healing you (3 health drain per second)
I like the sheilds idea. definitely makes sense since the heavy is all about taking damage and pushing forward
I got one
The Macintosh
Secondary consumable
When eaten, 25% more jump height and speed
15% more damage
Barely get any health from dispensers and med kits
Cant be healed by *medics*
That things sucks. Heavy takes so much damage that he needs heals pretty frequently. That weapon makes it almost impossible for the heavy to get health back after use, especially since the minigun will leave you a sitting duck, but the a fists heavy will get too close to enemies to be saved once the effect runs out.
When you started talking about Little Mac I thought it would be some gloves that give you a guaranteed critical hit once you took/dealt enough damage with them active(activated by pressing M2 once some kinda charge is full)
That was actually an additional stat that got cut! I ended up thinking it was too much for one weapon.
+After Breakfast Something else that might be interesting is a gun similar to the first but it would be like a small artillery Gun with silent spinup that fires a bullet with a ark similar to a fully charged huntsman arrow that deals 50-100 damage (depending on distance) and penetrate up to 2 enemys.
As downside it would have a 3 second reload time and a 1.5x longer spin up.
I'm not shure about the stats but you get the idea.
My idea for a Roman Legionary Heavy weapon set, idk why I got it:
Primary: a legionary shield
+150 base hp
+rechargeable alt-fire makes you unable to use any weapons, but it gives you 33% damage resistance
-15% movement speed
-50% healing from medic sources
-75% overheal speed
Secondary: a legionary eagle flagstaff
Deal 600 melee damage to activate a rage mode, that gives melee minicrits, +15% melee swing speed and +30% movement speed for 8 seconds
Melee: a gladius
+10% melee damage
+has a random chance to cause bleed (counted the same way as crits, but x2 or x3 probability)
-15% melee swing speed
This would add up to a total melee tank with an ability to become a mobile as fuck deadly killing machine
Pyro weapon ideas
Match Maker:
Melee weapon
Similar to the sandman, we idling a melee and a throwable projectile
Its a matchbox and a matchstick
You can attack people with the matchbox at a -35 percent damage penalty
Alternatively, you can throw lit matchsticks that linger on the ground for 5 seconds, then going out
Can be reflected, and when vacuumed with the manmelter will remove its flame
Matches wont light when out of flamethrower ammo
5 matches that regenerate at a slightly slower rate than the sandmans balls
The Lingerer
A trap made by a new flamethrower!
this flamethrower has 2 different ammo capacities
a 100 ammo flamethrower
and a 250 ammo gasoline pourer
When alt firing, you will drop gasoline, and when ignited (Can be ignited by bullets, fire, Ubercharge, and explosives)
will light up in flames for 10 seconds
Flames can be airblasted and put out (Or stored for crits with manmelter) with airblasts
10 percent damage increase on flamethrower
slower firing speed on flamethrower
slower holster and ready time
cant be used on water
cant airblast
no random crits (God forbid critical gasoline)
Give him a gun that allows a self made uber charge pack it takes up 2nd slot so it's only main and fists . It builds charge based off of damage given, you can't over heal with this and a medic's uber doesn't work or burns up twice as fast.
IDEA: Propane Tank
>SECONDARY<
-when used with the Huo Long Heater or Friendly Pyros to mini-crit any flame-related-weapons
>DESCRIPTION<
Heavy has perfect job. Heavy sells Pro-Pain and Pro-Pain accessories.
I kinda like the sheild, but there are two things I think need changing:
1: Lower the health regen to just 3 per second. 10 is ridiculous. Even if it slows while taking damage.
2: Instead of being a bullet sponge while crouching, I think when you hit a button, the heavy lifts up the sheild, and it blocks 75% of all damage from the front. Obviously you still can't fire.
I think if in order to buff the Huo long heater we should start by removing by removing the ring of fire and replacing that with a 100% reduction to slowed move speed caused while being spun up. The 4 ammo per second would remain but I believe that it would compensate for the ammo loss allowing you bunny hop and play a more offensive flanker type of heavy load-out.
I think the grapple heavy could be a good idea, but I have a few suggestions. Instead of grappling, it'd probably be better for it to force both the attacker and the victim to stay immobile while a punch is thrown. Obviously the victim can still shoot and stuff. Also, it should be called the Popanski pummel, a reference to Soda Popanski, a Russian boxer from punch-out.
Primary: Working Class Warmachine
+25% movement speed wearer
+20 HP on wearer
-20% accuracy
-30% damage
-50% ammo capacity
weaker primary but fully charged head shots from non machina sniper rifles.
faster at all times.
Would change the ammo belt so enemies know you have the weapon equipped.
That shield could work will with this weapon that i came up with
Shooty shoot shoot (secondary)
-Has 10 shots per click
-Each bullet does 16 damage
-Has 6 shots
-reloads all at once
-50% less health from health packs
(-Larger shoot sound)
(-Reload makes big CLICK from reload)
I am ALL YES for the shield idea,
now I can make my heavy look even more like Braum
Minigun replacement
Every bullet that hits an enemy
Heals 4 points of health
On kill gain max overheal 450 health -15% damage
20% more accurate
-10% firing speed
I've ALWAYS wanted a shield primary for the Heavy, his shotgun secondaries would be more useful (necessary even) and it would require a different play-style, this also makes sense in terms of the lore because if you've read the comics then you know that:
1: Heavy is a different person without his minigun (Stoic, serious, calm and calculated)
2: He has used a fence as a SHIELD!! So there's your weapon design right their.
I have an idea for Heavy
Slot: Secondary
Name: Healers Grade
+100% Heath From Heal Sources
-25% Heath From Heathpacks
(Makes A Circle Around You That Heals Nearby Teammates Only When Your Getting Healed By A Medic)
two weapons i though up just now:
(primary) A SOVIETS PANIC
+33% spin up speed
no slow down while spun up
+50% rate of fire
+2 extra bullets per unit of ammo
-50% total ammo
-33% bullet damage
no critical hits
(secondary) THE RUSSIAN CLASSIC (this would be like an AK47)
+500% clip size
+200% total ammo
+125% damage per pellet
+250% rate of fire
reloads all bullets at once
-25% reload speed
-90% pellets per shot
no random crits
-10% less accurate
btw you could make the shield able to be placed in front of you with alt-fire so it would shield and you would be able to attack enemys behind you while being shielded in the front
I would like the shield to behave like in Strike Force Heroes. There are actually many kinds of shields:
(All of them is activated by crouching)
1. Meat Shield
When active: Blocks 50% of incoming damage
When active: 30% less accuracy
0% chance to reflect bullets or projectiles
2. Small shield (I don't remember its name that was given by the developers...)
When active: Blocks 10% of incoming damage
When active: No accuracy penalty
10% chance to reflect bullets or projectiles
3. Siegius (I don't remember its name properly that was given by the game's developers. The name refers to the dev's other game, Siegius Arena (or something...))
When active: Blocks 10% of incoming damage
When active: 30% less accuracy
40% chance to reflect bullets or projectiles
Blast shield
When active: Blocks 10% of incoming damage (80% of explosive damage)
When active: 30% less accuracy
10% chance to reflect bullets or projectiles
Except that the shield sucked. They provided an upside that had a relatively low chance to happen, if you were crouching AND facing your enemy, and doing so decreased your accuracy by a LOT (unless you had the Buckler, but it had lower resistances) and you get rid of a weapon that deals an arseload of damage and are forced to use your secodary, and unless you have one of the three or four best secondaries in the game, their damage output is extremely low.
the third one was the worst in my opinion, you cant play as the traitor, old man, nathan, wannabe tf2 snipers, hoovy
Nathan (engineer) and Jyn (sniper) are playable characters in SFH 3. They just look a lot less cool.
+Corse Maybe, but that was the only Raze game with voices, not fkin text.
+Corse That's true...
I'm 2 years late but i decided to comment this since i recently got that idea. It's about the shield. I agree with it being a primary weapon and i also agree with the stats. The shield should not be active for these stats to work EXCEPT FOR ONE the damage resistance. And how i want the shield to work? Well by simply going from your secondary or melee to primary. When you don't hold your shield and you are at your secondary or melee, the shield will be on your back, preventing spyies backtabing you. Yes it would work like the rasorback but i still think this idea is pretty cool. About the others you mentioned in the vid, they just don't Interest me at all. What else i want from the heavy update? Buff brass, buffalo and spirit. And make the class more fun overall. I think heavy has been nerfed a lot and needs a lot of buffing. He doesn't feel like a "tank" class if you don't have a medic 24/7.
For a shield, i would give it the name "The Prison Breaker" (after the imposed idea that the broke out of prison, taking out all gaurds, and freeing everyone). It is a riot shield held on the left hand of the heavy, when equiped on the minigun slot, the heavy will take 35% less projectile and explosive damage, he cannot take headshots or fire damage from the front end. when pressing mouse 2, the heavy will push enemies away, or slam projectiles like rockets, and stickies back at the enemy. The secondary becomes 20% less acurrate, while the fist has full damage due to him only using one hand. This item could make the heavy a good support character. When using the shotgun, he has a new animation with a one armed pop reload like the terminator.
perhaps have the shield at SECONDARY, and go in front of you when you have the minigun reved, up, replacing the shotgun/sandvitch, reducing damage taken by around 30%, but maybe reducing movement speed by 15%. Maybe something like the booties for demo :) just a thought.
I had an idea for a sheild:
A riot shield (not sure which class or slot), which would protect you from ANY attack from the front, as well as absorbing all knockback. The downsides; it would leave you open to attacks from all other sides, and would make you REALLY slow (like somewhere around half-ish the speed of a heavy), as well as doubling the draw and holstering time.
A weapon that worked like that would be very difficult to counter in some corridor heavy maps, and if a heavy is with his team, enemies wouldn't be able to get around him. Admittedly though, it gives him an interesting way to counter sentries.
I have a idea
The Heavy Lunch (Replaces shotgun)
· When eaten Health increeses to 400
·Heals 400 hp
·65 sec recharge
·when eaten speed %10 less
·No knockback
·Takes 5 sec to eat
·Lunch Tantrum: if 50 dmg is taken while eating heavy will gain crits for 5 sec but food will be gone.
Firstly, heavy does not need mobility. He needs to 1v1 a scout running at him and not lose almost all his health because of how meatshots work.
1: This can be an overpowered or useless weapon depending on how bullet spread would work for it.
2: Good stats, but having to crouch to activate the shield means two things. You are sniper and spy bait, and I mean even moreso than usual.
3: What's the point of a grappling hook weapon if you have to hit them in melee anyway?
I have two suggestions of my own, both for the secondary weapon.
1: A secondary that blocks backstabs but sacrifices your utility completely so you cannot sandvitch medic.
2: A secondary that blocks headshots, but sacrifices your sandvitch.
If this sounds overpowered, consider the following. It is a counter weapon for the normal instant kill classes but heavy is split between countering one or the other. And guess what. You can switch classes to counter this counter weapon.
Here's the cons. Your medic will die more often to general enemy fire due to no sandvitches, spy has a gun, sniper can bodyshot, heavy is a huge slow moving target and snipers + spies can simply kill more priority targets.
Is it a class change item? No. It is a simple blocking item, something that fits the general play style of heavy and makes heavy relevant in maps that favour snipers and spies.
Valve give me money.
Another suggestion for the Mini-gun replacement shield, Wearer can not be undercharged and is marked for death while being healed from medics. Might seem like too much but feel free to add input.
The shield would be a viable choice for the Fat Scout playstyle...
We might see your ideas in-game, if 1. Any members of the TF team see this video 2. They think the ideas might fit in the game 3. Heavy wins in Heavy vs Pyro (as of now, Pyro leads by 4%, bear in mind this might drastically change, eg. how Brexit went.)
I had this idea for the heavy to make him more viable as a class in competitive mode and I'd like to know what you guys think. what if when he had his minigun spun up a heavy would have a mechanic that would function similarly to the charged battalions backup for soldier where teammates would get a small defence buff when close to the heavy. maybe like 20% or so. the mechanic could be called "morale" or something. it would be very helpful for the team including fitting in with the whole defence class mentality of the heavy, additionally it adds more strategy to a match.
personally I think the shield is an interesting idea, but the one thing I'd change is since most heavy equipable shotguns don't have right click function, the shield could be moved to R mouse to activate instead of crouch, same slowness and effects, just a more convinient button config.
tbh the minigun idea is quite similar to an idea I've had, call it a heavy machinegun rather then a minigun, however no spinup and very accurate, a good way to keep a sniper suppressed, and to keep heavy at his base trash speed would also be a large buff for shotguns if it preformed very poorly at close range, you would need to question if this heavy has his secondary for healing himself and his team or to cover his weakness, which would make him a more fun class to fight, as well as vastly increases his spy checking capabilities without being very inconvenient
There should be a primary for him called the Heavy Backpack maybe. 2+ Health Regeneration On wearer. 50% more ammo on secondary. 10% Faster Melee Swing Speed. Survive one backstab but lose all bonuses for 20 seconds. Backstab protection can only be regained with resupply. (I saw a comment down there and thought of this, since you're removing his gun it has no downsides, tell me if ya like it)
I have an idea
RIOT shield (primary):
when not holding right click:
can't have a minigun
and shield wont work
upon holding right click (makes a shield):
has a durability can absorb over 1000 damage before having the shield break crits will do 2x more damage to your shield it means 195 × 2
+ block all bullets,rockets,sentrys melee attacks, and etc exept lasers that are what ever direction your facing
-15 percent speed
- only supply cabinets can replace it
-if you get flanked your dead
RIOT ARMOR(secondary)
+200 more health
+ 25 more resistant to bullet, fire , and explosives
+ 35 percent resistant to crits and sentry
-15 speed (heavy armor)
-can still get one shot by a spy via a backstab
Baton(melee)
+ upon hitting a enemy damage ramps up by 25 more damage the more you hit them ( it resets every 3 seconds)
- 20 less damage
+25 firing speed
+switches to weapon 30 percent faster
-no random crits
the gaming Kelvin
While I absolutely support (love, actually) the idea of a melee-focused Heavy subclass, you're proposing that we take the slowest class in the game, with 73% movement speed, and drop that speed down to 43%. Even if the weapons were great ideas, the speed debuff alone would make them useless even in defense, since the enemy can just backpedal.
Here are some spy weapon idea (dont have names yet)
Knife: after successful stab spy will receive 30% less fire, explosives, bullet resistance, 20% less health
Sapper: 50% more damage, 40% less sapper life
Pistol: 20% faster firing speed ,10% more clip size, 15% damage penalty
Heavy needs a minigun that works like a backscatter, less dmg and fire rate but faster deploy and grants minicrits from behind. It will combo well with the GRU
I like the idea of the shield, but I would probably only use it in Medieval Mode. Also, here's a stupid idea I had. It's probably pretty bad, but it is a complete weapon aside from not having a model. I'd call it The Sandvich Flask (or something like that). It's a secondary consumable that is a bottle of vodka. It functions exactly like the Buffalo Steak Sandvich, except it grants a speed boost instead of a damage boost, as well as a damage resistance. The main use of this weapon is to help Heavies get from spawn to the front faster and with less risk of death along the way, at the cost of the ability to self-heal (it can still be dropped for teammates as a medium health pack).
I feel like the shield would work best as a passive damage resistance, with its ability being a shield bash of some sort (like the new push with the shortstop, but with damage!). It would pair well with the shotguns, as the shield would encourage you pushing forward because you can tank the damage, and the shield bash would be a great function for clearing objectives, while you can pelt people still close with your secondary. The whole not being able to attack thing makes you a glorified hoovy, and honestly, a mini gun replacement should do more than take away your secondary guns, it should alter how you use them.
a weapon idea i have for heavy, it is not really a weapon but instead another lunchbox item
the Bagel sandvich
when eaten it grants you immortality for 15 seconds
does not require cooldown
can only be eaten 4 times in one life
-20% damage to enemies when invincible
+50% health bonus
if given to teammates it gives them mini crits for 6 seconds
does not heal teammates
giving it to players requires cool down for a new bagel sandvich
40 second cooldown
5 second chewing duration
Idea for mini-gun replacement, The M.A.N.N Shield: gives heavy the power to smack enemys and some times stunning them, can not be back stabbed, can be turned on and off with crouching or pressing middle mouse, can not be killed by headshot damage while in use. 35% armor vs any type of damage, while critted you can block 50% damage from all sources. shield can be destroyed from Demoman charging. can use shotgun or melee and boosted damage on melee while having a shield out. takes 10% more damage from attacks from behind and the shield adds 200 more HP but at the cost of Ammo 20% of support weapon ammo and can not restock ammo from packs dropped by players. if Shield is destroyed heavy becomes bonked and it stays around for 3 seconds at 50% hp, 6 for 90% and 2 seconds at 15% the lower the health the faster heavy can run, he gets 4 seconds of the demomans charging speed when fleeing if shield is destroyed while bonk is still in effect. with the shield destroyed heavy takes 10% more damage from all sources.
I got an idea after watching your balance videos and I thought about what happened to the Shortstop and how it now has an alt-fire and your idea for heavy's shield. What if there were a change to the Fists-of-Steel in that they would have an alt fire that would have heavy bring his fists close to him in a blocking fashion and make him somewhat like moving cover for allies. Maybe expand his hitbox in this just slightly to increase effectiveness. IT might be good for a sacrificial play or getting a medic or other injured ally to safety. Obviously, heavy would be the one taking damage at a usual rate. Unless a buff or nerf could be worked in.
What do you think?
Idea for the shield:
+45% overall (Aka Passive) damage vulnerability
Any and all damage dealt to you from the 180 degrees where you're aiming will be blocked
40% (could be knocked down to like 25% instead of 40 but meh) of all damage blocked will be health gained to you and any nearby teammates in a small radius
Replaces both the minigun and the secondary
Shotgun is stock
sorry for bad grammars
What would i like to see is a buff to the Huo-long heater. This wepons set a ring of fire and use a lot of amo, but why not give it a buff
The buff will be when right-cliking, instead of a ring of fire, every 4 bullet burn the ennemis, this will keep the idea of burning people while using amo and the downside will be you can't spin up whit this minigun.
i think this is a great idea, are you thinkng the same ways?
not, really.
but you have a really nice concept there.
Nice idea. (P.S your grammar was near perfect just have to work on spelling.)
For the grapple gloves it kind of already has been done with the eviction notice as the extra speed it gives you helps you continue to attack enemies
I have an Idea for a minigun;
its like a cow mangler for heavy where it can charge shot
STATS:
+No spin up needed
+20% Less damage dropoff
alt fire for a charged shot that can do 100 damage
-No random crits
-charged shot deals 20 damage to user when fired
-10% less damage when not using charged shot.
if this were to be added, it probably should receive more downsides, 10% penalty isn't much and 20 damage isn't much for a class that almost completely relies on health.
I like the idea of a shield, this is my personal take on what I think personally would work better:
Instead of replacing his source of firepower, the shield should replace his secondary, sacrificing a source of health for a source of protection. Because of this it should be nerfed more. I think it should be able to only absorb 600 damage, and similar to other regenerating items it wouldn't be able to be used for 20 seconds once enough damage has been taken. Making it switch to a third person view is a pretty good idea, so that wouldn't change. Since it should be used mostly defensively if you take damage with the shield it should slow you down by 20% for 0.2 seconds. What do you think?
New minigun: Faster speed while reved up up to +30%, that decays after one second not reved up, and -10% speed while deployed. Also a 10% slower rev up time.
Mentioning Little Mac gave me an other idea for an alternative melee. As you get damaged, it charges up a rage bar, and once it's full, you get one controlled melee critical that you can use whenever you want. The obvious downside would be that this weapon can't get random crits, and possibly slightly reduced damage, considering that crits on command far outweighs the loss of random crits, and the fact that taking damage is sort of Heavy's job.
I thought of one that would be a medie gun replacement... but after some thinking I thought how little this gun would be used...
Medy gun replacement
Ups
Hp regen on play when healing ally. [This only goes up if hp on ally is going up, otherwise it stays where it is.]
Appon uber deployment, target and player is ubered and crized for 8 seconds
Downs
Deployment and puting away this "weapon" is 50% slower
Movement speed on player is cut by 30%
It takes 50% Longer to reach ubber
Odd effect.
If you encounter an enimey, you can "Heal" them, stealing their uber [if medic] and cutting their hp. [because that ubber thing they all have in their chest attached to their heart... in short, you heal an enimy to their heart failer, so it is the only medi gun that can do damage to enimies.] Stealing uber from an medic will slowly add their uber to your tank.
Uber steal, 5% per second attached.
Damage to enimy is 5 per second attached.
What ya guys think?
weapon idea
The Heavy Killer primary replacement
+15% damage (× by 5% when ubered by a medic)
-30% hp on wear
if fired for 5 seconds it will start to overheat and take 10 seconds to cool down
part of my set for the heavy called:The Ubered Heavy
my little idea that goes together with that shield, a slug gun.
it only fires singular bullets with a higher damage and handles somewhat like the revolver (first shot always accurate). this shotgun would do better at longer ranges compared to the stock shotgun at longer ranges, but does less damage up close compared to a shotgun.
lets say a base damage of 50, higher then a revolver at 40 and less then a shotgun at 6 X 10.
1) Machine Gun. Primary. No spin up time, faster movement speed.
2) The Knocker. Melee. Deals knockback. Hitting airborne enemies deals crits.
3) Fireman's sword. Melee. Alt fire extinguishes teammates, slows down enemies, dealing 3 dmg for 10s. hitting "frozen" enemies deals minicrits. exposes spies, crap range.
If you can switch off gloves while remaining grappled, I could see you being able to grapple, pull out shotgun to shot them right in their face, most likely killing, and then use the shield to block damage for an escape if needed.
I think the fatscout rush would be the ultimate tactic with that shield xD
Egg not s shot gun replacement that increases the heavy's speed and firing speed, but when the effects over 29% less healing from all sources