i can definitely understand why playing vs Phosphoru feels bad, but i think his existence is a huge boon for the game- it shows that even in a 20 year old game, there is still room for creativity and adaptation, and that underestimating your opponent and refusing to adapt makes ANYONE vulnerable
I love watching pros who are very chaotic and not standard build orders and play patterns. MBL has been one of my favorites to follow for example. Phosphoru is a big draw to watch these lower levels of the very very talented players.
This happens at every game when he isn't at the highest level. When he is consistently in the top 10 doing this stuff to Daut, Tat, Nicov, Hera, etc then we can talk.
@@joshdavis3743 It's clear he's still learning and growing. That's why I'd love him to get a top pro mentor. He seems to clearly have skills that others at his current level dont. Get him someone who can coach him up on areas he can improve so he can be like MBL and back up the pressure with actual economy on the backend to help slam the door if your initial push doesn't get there.
I really like this format. Putting things in context of the series and highlighting pivotal strategy moments adds a lot that I would miss watching individual games from a set.
I really enjoyed this kind of "Set Report". Both in the style and the pace of the Video. It is much easier to consume, when you don't have the time to enjoy the full Set of games. It felt like every game was still very recocnisable and not to rushed despite the faster speed and I would greatle appreciate this kind of Report on maybe some stand out sets or maybe the finals of the brackets or something like that. I think that could be cool.
@@mrwalter7205 It is cheesy but RedP does it at such a high level that it is impressive. He is basically "exploiting" (I use that word to mean he is taking advantage of) balance issues to create units at such a time before the devs intended. So he makes a unique unit at the 15 minute mark and then stops making any more economy and just has villagers on gold/wood. This means that he is all in on just making the same unit. It's an extremely optimised strategy and hard to counter because he is so good.
It's insane to witness that, after an intermediate phase where the pro players figured out how to counter "the Phosphoru", Phosphoru just went pro himself.
Phosphoru loves breaking the game. Pros didn't learn that much, but the game got new balances because of his strats. Now he can find new ways to break the game.
There is a difference between emulating his strategies and actually being the one to come up with them. I'd say he deserves it. Lol as annoying as his strategies can be
Phosphoru took 2 games off Viper in sudden desaster which even though it was a sudden death tournament was still under draft settings so he has potential to cause upsets in the future.
This vid's been really a great presentation with an explanation of what has happened in those matches between redphosphoru and ThunderboltX. It is great that you are picking such content for your main channel.
Thanks T90, I appreciated the deep dive. Speeding up the gameplay was good and it enabled the whole series to be squeezed under an hour rather than 2 or more which is greatly appreciated. Thanks for all the content, it is always a pleasure to watch!
Excellent cast T90 this format really works well for TH-cam. Watching a series at sped up gameplay like this narrated by you really setting the tone the whole time fits this so well. Great Watch!
Love the format ! And I also love Phosphoru since your first video on him. Love his spirit, his dedication, the way he thinks and overcome each and every obstacle ❤
This is like when a stream sniper becomes a streamer themselves, Phosphoru went from a legend with a silly style to legitimately breaking in to the top tier.
Not really. Stream sniping is full hard against any codex and leagues rules that exist. Phosphoru is fully within the rule sets and public codex. Its a legitimate way to play.
@@simonsilence Oh yeah for sure - I should have been more clear, not that he's stream sniping but it's like, sometimes streamers will have a fan who is sort of an NPC in their streams, but then that fan gets really good and becomes a streamer themselves.
Phosphoru is a lenged. He brings more creativity to the game and should get a recognition for that alone. I hope he'll be successful in the tournament.
He is also humble and always learning. His journey to top is a joy to witness. And he is not really even a one trick pony, but a pony with an arsenal of tricks. He makes AOE2 better.
Hey just want to say thanks for all AoE content. I'm really new to pvp AoE and got the definitiv edition just because of all the videos. Checked out the stream Yesterday and the hera games were really nice to watch.
Loved the format, I'd really enjoy more "abbreviated series" style videos. It was great that you sped through the inconsequential moments without skipping them completely. I still feel like I watched the entire series but it only took 40 minutes. Great stuff! And congrats to Phosphoru, excellent play. 👏
great casting and story! I like the way Red Phosp. walled up so perfectly in spiral - market and blacksmith to dock/waters edge. More people could make a starting eco bubble on this map.
Very very clean. Super excited to watch more TTL. Really hoping we get full series recaps frequently like we've been getting for WWC2. As a newer returning player to the AOE2 scene, I love learning about all the talented players that aren't the very very top. Also, we should get Phosphoru into a mentorship program with MBL.
Really love this format and I’m so psyched that TTL is back! It’s sad, but completely understandable, that silver won’t get as much coverage. Listening to TTL sets is some of my favourite content of yours, and Phosphoru was giving us a good show in this video. Love it!
Thank you, this format is great. I never watch the full videos from the tournaments because they are just too long but in this format I'd be more likely to watch them.
so excited to see this, what a great series. motivated to find my own start to hopefully join the ranks of the phosphoru fc, just made an alt account to practice different strats without tanking my main elo. technically not a smurf as my main elo is 1000.
Could we have the starting map and civilizations picking analysis as a regular thing in the beginning of the videos? You can mark the beginning of the first game as a time stamp so people on a tight schedule still can have their thing but as the Lord said "this is a strategy game" and strategy of the series start there. Thank you for your effort. #TeamDauT
I used to play red phosphoru on the ladder at 1400 elo (he used to play as white phosphoru). He always did fc malians long swords rush. Crazy to see him play at such a high level now
I really respect Phosphoru for creating such a unique and powerful strategy so late in a game's life. I kind of assumed players would more easily be able to counter his predictability, but it seems it's not quite so easy.
It's not often you see a court jester participating in a medieval tournament with knights and actually triumphing. We need more people like Phosphoru in science and politics, willing to explore beyond the meta.
Love the format, i watched at x1.25 an it was really good, Phosphoru reminds me to a novice poker player, in the sense that his inexperience gives him an edge to more experienced and biased players on "how" you should play, but in the actual matches is more like chess, he has a clear opening that works, that you cannot ignore, even at high ranks, the forward castle was sublime, breaking the mold and totally going for the knockout, having that initial playstyle makes rivals think, when actual strategy is more fluid and every single match is different, Phosphoru going full Sun Tzu in this tournament, thanks a lot for such a good analysis
Sorry to say it but the way Red Phosphoru plays is way more fun way more entertaining way more enjoyable way more interesting way more adapting way more intriguing then all the top guys who play the same way .. thank you so much for the upload
It's super awesome to see Phosphoru break the mold of high level play. While I doubt this will work well against the top 10 players, but I feel like the rest of the AoE2 players have become very stagnant in their play. I always wonder, why don't we see expansions around the map like SC2? What about sneaking production buildings on the enemy side similar to how Broodwar Dark Templar rushing happened? I hope folks cook more just like Phosphoru does!
Yep I'm quite used to watching Blizzard RTS games where this kind of cheese is not only common, it's patented. When I started watching Age2 I was asking the same questions lol I really think it's viable and the game has so much room for growth that hasn't been tapped into because of how limited things used to be in previous versions of the game. Phosphoru is a joy for me to watch because I think he sees a lot of the same ideas we do.
Sometimes they do sneak forward production buildings, and it can be very effective but there’s reasons it not as popular as sc2. I think the main reason for that is due to the slower paced game. Two units in sc2 can wreck an entire mineral line and although you can get a vil kill or two giving advantage it’s not as swingy and you lose a huge amount of eco just from how long it takes to travel with villagers.
@@Rath_9 Sure, I can see what you mean, but how often do we see 3 archers move up with a stream of them coming in later? Imagine that stream coming from the woodline instead of across the map.
Great video, maybe try a few enticing clips from each game at the start if viewership drops way early? I hope it doesn't because this is great. A set overview is so damned welcome. Thankyou for the tourney. Man is Phosphouri a damn joy to watch. What a player to step it up to rank and take it to em. Standing where Hoang did.
I liked being able to see the whole series in 1 video, although I'd be happy with 10-15% slower than this so we have a bit more time to process what's happening (speaking as a LEL)
It's nice to have 20min reports like this when the topic is a tournament narrative instead of a game narrative. I watch on 2x speed, for the smart aleck.
I really like this format. Showing the whole series like this was absolutely the right call.
Agreed.
second!
i can definitely understand why playing vs Phosphoru feels bad, but i think his existence is a huge boon for the game- it shows that even in a 20 year old game, there is still room for creativity and adaptation, and that underestimating your opponent and refusing to adapt makes ANYONE vulnerable
Yes, I love how he picks weird civs. I feels amazing to watch him
I love watching pros who are very chaotic and not standard build orders and play patterns. MBL has been one of my favorites to follow for example. Phosphoru is a big draw to watch these lower levels of the very very talented players.
This happens at every game when he isn't at the highest level. When he is consistently in the top 10 doing this stuff to Daut, Tat, Nicov, Hera, etc then we can talk.
@@joshdavis3743 It's clear he's still learning and growing. That's why I'd love him to get a top pro mentor. He seems to clearly have skills that others at his current level dont. Get him someone who can coach him up on areas he can improve so he can be like MBL and back up the pressure with actual economy on the backend to help slam the door if your initial push doesn't get there.
@@cinco_de_la_tarde I don't think he has what it takes to be top ten.
I really like this format. Putting things in context of the series and highlighting pivotal strategy moments adds a lot that I would miss watching individual games from a set.
I really enjoyed this kind of "Set Report". Both in the style and the pace of the Video. It is much easier to consume, when you don't have the time to enjoy the full Set of games.
It felt like every game was still very recocnisable and not to rushed despite the faster speed and I would greatle appreciate this kind of Report on maybe some stand out sets or maybe the finals of the brackets or something like that. I think that could be cool.
I feel this only works with a RedP game because he's so all in. Every game basically finished in less than 30mins as well.
Could not have written my thoughts better than you just did. Really enjoy this format
Agreed! I'd love to watch the important sets in this format!
There are just no "cheesy" strategies IMO. If you have a strat that's not "meta" and you're able to win. You're a better player
@@mrwalter7205 It is cheesy but RedP does it at such a high level that it is impressive. He is basically "exploiting" (I use that word to mean he is taking advantage of) balance issues to create units at such a time before the devs intended. So he makes a unique unit at the 15 minute mark and then stops making any more economy and just has villagers on gold/wood. This means that he is all in on just making the same unit. It's an extremely optimised strategy and hard to counter because he is so good.
It's insane to witness that, after an intermediate phase where the pro players figured out how to counter "the Phosphoru", Phosphoru just went pro himself.
I guess if you CAN beat them join them.
Love to see it I believe his strats are legit
Phosphoru loves breaking the game. Pros didn't learn that much, but the game got new balances because of his strats. Now he can find new ways to break the game.
There is a difference between emulating his strategies and actually being the one to come up with them. I'd say he deserves it. Lol as annoying as his strategies can be
@@Nomatterwhat69 In another timeline Phosphoru is a technical Minecrafter finding new ways to farm resources after each update Lol
Phosphoru looks at the state of game and says: "I don't want boom. I want aggression, always!"
I hope phosphoru can continue to find tournament success. Things are getting interesting...
I like the double speed cast. Sometimes I want to spend 2 hours watching a tournament series, but usually I'd rather have it in 45 mins.
I also watched it in 1.55 speed and it was very digestible. Liked it.
I like the 2hr series as well but if it means we can cover more matches in these lower levels by having 45 min.. I'm all for it.
7:30
opp: "i'll just wall off some of your resources"
phos: "i'm not trapped in here with you, YOU are trapped in here with ME"
I like the sped up gameplay. Usually watch videos like this on 2x speed anyways
And I still had TH-cam on 1.5x speed!
@@thire7432 I still had it on 2x speed haha
i recommend you all to give 0.4x a try.. maybe have a drink close too
46:45 Thank you hardy :)
Hardy’s a legend
I really enjoyed the faster speed and seeing multiple games. This is a great style to use when showcasing tournaments. Thanks T90!
Phosphoru took 2 games off Viper in sudden desaster which even though it was a sudden death tournament was still under draft settings so he has potential to cause upsets in the future.
Everyone has a plan until RedPhosphorus drops the castle into your base
Amazing format, pacing was great - nice to have the extra analysis and high speed through the slow bits
This vid's been really a great presentation with an explanation of what has happened in those matches between redphosphoru and ThunderboltX. It is great that you are picking such content for your main channel.
I loved the format of this video! Being able to see all 5 games in under an hour was terrific.
just saw the title, let me grab some popcorn
Thanks T90, I appreciated the deep dive. Speeding up the gameplay was good and it enabled the whole series to be squeezed under an hour rather than 2 or more which is greatly appreciated. Thanks for all the content, it is always a pleasure to watch!
I recommend that T90 opens a third channel dedicated solely to being a phosphoru fanboy account 😂
Excellent cast T90 this format really works well for TH-cam. Watching a series at sped up gameplay like this narrated by you really setting the tone the whole time fits this so well. Great Watch!
Love the format ! And I also love Phosphoru since your first video on him. Love his spirit, his dedication, the way he thinks and overcome each and every obstacle ❤
This is like when a stream sniper becomes a streamer themselves, Phosphoru went from a legend with a silly style to legitimately breaking in to the top tier.
Not really. Stream sniping is full hard against any codex and leagues rules that exist. Phosphoru is fully within the rule sets and public codex. Its a legitimate way to play.
@@simonsilence Oh yeah for sure - I should have been more clear, not that he's stream sniping but it's like, sometimes streamers will have a fan who is sort of an NPC in their streams, but then that fan gets really good and becomes a streamer themselves.
The main takeaway is that everyone should learn how to be in Castle Age by 14:20 even on open maps.
after a lot of practice I got 16:50 but can't get lower than that so far, I need to study further :D
Sometimes I wish we could see their reactions. I bet that castle got a reaction.
Phosphoru is a lenged. He brings more creativity to the game and should get a recognition for that alone. I hope he'll be successful in the tournament.
He is also humble and always learning. His journey to top is a joy to witness. And he is not really even a one trick pony, but a pony with an arsenal of tricks. He makes AOE2 better.
Great video style, pace and content.
And what a treat to get a Bo5 with phosphoru! Can't wait to see his next one!
Hey just want to say thanks for all AoE content. I'm really new to pvp AoE and got the definitiv edition just because of all the videos. Checked out the stream Yesterday and the hera games were really nice to watch.
19:37 moonwalking sheep
the swag
Loved the format, I'd really enjoy more "abbreviated series" style videos. It was great that you sped through the inconsequential moments without skipping them completely. I still feel like I watched the entire series but it only took 40 minutes. Great stuff!
And congrats to Phosphoru, excellent play. 👏
great casting and story! I like the way Red Phosp. walled up so perfectly in spiral - market and blacksmith to dock/waters edge. More people could make a starting eco bubble on this map.
I love your current style of analyzing maps and drafts. Please more of that!
This style video was fantastic.
Nice intro T90! I really liked understanding the context behind the tournament
I enjoy the deep dive, and I also enjoy your live casting of each minute of gameplay!! But yes to both Tristan!
Really awesome deep dive. I really enjoyed it. I love how Phos's strat is shaking things up. Makes for crazy games.
I enjoyed this style of video where you condense several matches down on fast speed with an overarching narrative. Was really entertaining!
Very very clean. Super excited to watch more TTL. Really hoping we get full series recaps frequently like we've been getting for WWC2. As a newer returning player to the AOE2 scene, I love learning about all the talented players that aren't the very very top.
Also, we should get Phosphoru into a mentorship program with MBL.
Fantastic video, I'd LOVE to see more series recaps like this.
This was an awesome way to go over a set! Really enjoyed the analytical approach paired with faster game speed.
Hardy, that editing at the end was better than the whole series!
Really love this format and I’m so psyched that TTL is back! It’s sad, but completely understandable, that silver won’t get as much coverage. Listening to TTL sets is some of my favourite content of yours, and Phosphoru was giving us a good show in this video. Love it!
Thank you, this format is great. I never watch the full videos from the tournaments because they are just too long but in this format I'd be more likely to watch them.
i really like this format, it's really fun to follow the whole set with more in depth tactic talk
Very cool approach. love to see more like this!
Legit enjoyed the deep dive on such an insane player. Appreciate for the extra effort T90
Phosphoru my cheesy friend, I'm rooting for you!
I wonder if you can find a way to make water maps work more in your favour!
so excited to see this, what a great series.
motivated to find my own start to hopefully join the ranks of the phosphoru fc, just made an alt account to practice different strats without tanking my main elo. technically not a smurf as my main elo is 1000.
Really enjoyed this format, put a lot of good context out there, nice
I think this video format was good, some speed-up to tell the whole story, some normal speed up near the end to get fully immersed
Love this kind of video. Commenting for you to note my interest and for the algorythm
no worries mr berry . i really appriciate you casted hid premier on TTL silver ty VVM ^^
Really appreciate this format, length, and commentary! Thanks for continuing to evolve the format and build the AOE2 community.
46:45 "Hardy fix this with something".. Hardy proceeds to use an effect which shows the current state of T90's brain in that moment.
Great video! Make sure you cover ever Phosphoru game, his play style is so entertaining!
That was a great edit at the end.
I am so excited what strats other players will bring out to stop this madman :D
I also liked the "summmary of a set" recap type!
Could we have the starting map and civilizations picking analysis as a regular thing in the beginning of the videos? You can mark the beginning of the first game as a time stamp so people on a tight schedule still can have their thing but as the Lord said "this is a strategy game" and strategy of the series start there.
Thank you for your effort.
#TeamDauT
Holy crap love the play from the legend himself
love this set report on the serie!!! lets goo phosporuuuuuu!!!!!!
Loved the format! It's a great way to introduce more prolevel AoE II to the main channel
Wonderful format, especially with a situation like this!
Great format
I used to play red phosphoru on the ladder at 1400 elo (he used to play as white phosphoru). He always did fc malians long swords rush. Crazy to see him play at such a high level now
22:36 Im pretty sure the video does fine or even better with the faster pace. Keep up the good work T90
I really respect Phosphoru for creating such a unique and powerful strategy so late in a game's life. I kind of assumed players would more easily be able to counter his predictability, but it seems it's not quite so easy.
It's not often you see a court jester participating in a medieval tournament with knights and actually triumphing. We need more people like Phosphoru in science and politics, willing to explore beyond the meta.
really love the video format of full series and fast forward thru dark age etc
I always love watching RedPhosphoru!! I'm excited to see how he does in the next several rounds.
Just wanted to say I like the way you covered the bans and picks for the series.
The last game was epic. Wow!
thank for the speed cast love when you do that helps hold my attention entertaining
This speed up set format is wonderful!
Love the format, i watched at x1.25 an it was really good, Phosphoru reminds me to a novice poker player, in the sense that his inexperience gives him an edge to more experienced and biased players on "how" you should play, but in the actual matches is more like chess, he has a clear opening that works, that you cannot ignore, even at high ranks, the forward castle was sublime, breaking the mold and totally going for the knockout, having that initial playstyle makes rivals think, when actual strategy is more fluid and every single match is different, Phosphoru going full Sun Tzu in this tournament, thanks a lot for such a good analysis
46:42 Hardy, nice job as always 11
I enjoy this new format! Perfect for a series recap.
Keep up the good work i am surprised phosphoru even knew where the dock was im sure he didnt know the hotkey
Set overviews like this could be fun, not just for Phosphoru games, but others too
Sorry to say it but the way Red Phosphoru plays is way more fun way more entertaining way more enjoyable way more interesting way more adapting way more intriguing then all the top guys who play the same way .. thank you so much for the upload
just 11, this is great
Loved the deep dive!
loved this format, thanks Tristan!
First game was insane Thunderbolt didn't do anything right
Faster speed is super nice for "boring" parts, time managment is important for average member of community of 20 yearsbold game 11
Good format. Very easy to watch and enjoyable. Watched until the very end
I enjoyed the format and especially enjoyed seeing the civ and map draft.
enjoyed this a bunch. i am just hoping phosphoru gets to play malay again, its my favorite strat of his 11 gl champ
great format, love the thoughts on the drafts.
I definitely liked the sped up videos to include the whole series!
Love that we couldn't guess the last game by looking the length of the video
haha, i recently got the hide duration extension and have just kept it on for all yt videos. Its weird for sure.
Pros have used his strats in tournaments. Andy got a win vs Lierry in a tourny last spring using a phosphoru FC all in.
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It's super awesome to see Phosphoru break the mold of high level play.
While I doubt this will work well against the top 10 players, but I feel like the rest of the AoE2 players have become very stagnant in their play.
I always wonder, why don't we see expansions around the map like SC2? What about sneaking production buildings on the enemy side similar to how Broodwar Dark Templar rushing happened?
I hope folks cook more just like Phosphoru does!
Yep I'm quite used to watching Blizzard RTS games where this kind of cheese is not only common, it's patented. When I started watching Age2 I was asking the same questions lol I really think it's viable and the game has so much room for growth that hasn't been tapped into because of how limited things used to be in previous versions of the game. Phosphoru is a joy for me to watch because I think he sees a lot of the same ideas we do.
Sometimes they do sneak forward production buildings, and it can be very effective but there’s reasons it not as popular as sc2. I think the main reason for that is due to the slower paced game. Two units in sc2 can wreck an entire mineral line and although you can get a vil kill or two giving advantage it’s not as swingy and you lose a huge amount of eco just from how long it takes to travel with villagers.
@@Rath_9 Sure, I can see what you mean, but how often do we see 3 archers move up with a stream of them coming in later?
Imagine that stream coming from the woodline instead of across the map.
Great video, maybe try a few enticing clips from each game at the start if viewership drops way early? I hope it doesn't because this is great. A set overview is so damned welcome.
Thankyou for the tourney.
Man is Phosphouri a damn joy to watch. What a player to step it up to rank and take it to em. Standing where Hoang did.
This was a great format, especially for early round games.
I liked being able to see the whole series in 1 video, although I'd be happy with 10-15% slower than this so we have a bit more time to process what's happening (speaking as a LEL)
Watching Phosphoru feels like watching a Charles Oliveira fight. Its never boring. Win or lose they always go for the kill.
It's nice to have 20min reports like this when the topic is a tournament narrative instead of a game narrative.
I watch on 2x speed, for the smart aleck.
Refreshing Aggression.