Agreed, 100%. All I can say about William Windom in this scene is: "Wow!!!" We all could feel his loss, sorrow, despair, and pain. Thank you for your excellent comments. 👍🖖
@@blgrieb Aye! Here is a story, he drove a considerable distance (I think he was 80 at the time) to reprise Decker in one of the better fanfics before Paramount got bitchy about those. In this version when the shuttle blew up it, instead of killing Decker, it threw him through a time warp into Earth's past where he winds up with a woman who looks a helluva lot like Marlena Moreau (since it's actually Barbara Luna how helped the fanfic, too.) Very cool.
@@megostartrek Here you are. "Star Trek Phase II" "In Harm's Way" Malachi Throne AKA Commodore Jose Mendez from the Menagerie is here as well. My Search-fu is excellent. Cheers, Mate.
No, he didn't "nail" it, because this weepy basket case is not what was intended by the writer. Windom invented it for this performance, ruining what would have been a much better episode.
@@beastslayer3228 I disagree that he ruined it. This take was worse, as if it was ad-libbed than the one that ended up in the series. But I think it was imporant to include that because it shows that he is not in any condition to take command of the Enterprise.
"Don't you THINK I know that!" hit a little better than "Don't you .. suppose I know that!" Really cool to see these alternate takes though, thanks for posting them!
Yes, I agree that the other "Don't you THINK I know that?!" hit much harder, but this performance of his despair was also Emmy quality. I have many more to upload. Thank you for your excellent comments. 👍🖖
As I understand it, the normal eight days they had to shoot an episode was whittled down to five for "Doomsday Machine." The director was in such a hurry, and he had such faith in Mr. Windom, that he just left the camera on and let "Decker" do his thing. This looks to me like a first take, and what made the final cut was a more polished second take. That's my impression, anyway. What a fine performance! Also that sounds like Mr. Shatner's present to interact even though he's completely off camera for this take. He's supporting his fellow performer.
Probably one of the BEST acted scenes, especially from a guest star, in ALL of TOS!!! Never knew this one existed, and this has been my FAVORITE episode since I was a boy in the '60s. I have seen this episode at least 100 times!!! The way William Windom comes off in the final take is moving, realistic and powerful. You can't help but feel sorry for the anguish he went through knowing that his crew was lost, and that, inadvertently, it was his fault. Bravo, never knew this existed. Thanks SO much for this!!! Keep 'em comin' !!!
I agree 100%, George. I was so very impressed by William Windom's acting, in this scene, and in the entire episode of Doomsday Machine. The raw emotion he exhibits is amazing, and there is nothing like this kind of acting in today's television and film. I have so many more of these to come. You are so very welcome. Thank you for your highly excellent comments. Feel free to comment anytime. 👍🖖🏆
for windom to be able to turn on the waterworks the way he did is the mark of a top notch actor. the first take was good,but the one that made the final cut is nothing short of brilliant.
William Windom was a great actor; I saw him in countless tv shows, and he always owned whatever scene he was in! Also, loved him as Seth in Murder She Wrote :)
Unbelievable, that there are actually still existing alternate takes of things like this, just amazing, thank you so much for posting. ST fan since TOS was on and I like many of the ST series but like TOS the best, and TDM is my favorite episode, so cool!!
I never imagined I'd ever see "deleted scenes" like this. I watched TOS from the 1st episode in 66'. I was 12 years old. We had a color tv. My 'sci-fi, model rocket & space program buff' buddies would gather and watch them all!
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Thank you for this wonderful further peek into the sublime acting mettle of William Windom. In a way, this performance presages Windom’s acting turn in what is generally regarded as the finest episode of Rod Serling’s “Night Gallery” a couple years hence (“They’re Tearing Down Tim Riley’s Bar”). In the 1970 episode William Windom breaks down in front of a police officer when he realizes his life is a shambles owing to the loss of his wife and the fact that his last connection with a more innocent and pleasant past is about to be demolished (Tim Riley’s Bar). He regarded his role as aging salesman Randy Lane his finest performance.
Thank you for adding this outtake. When Decker talks about the crew begging for help I think of the transporter accident from ST:TMP-those unnatural screams and remember Kirk’s reaction. I can’t even imagine 400 calling out and screaming. Windom’s performance brings a lot of humanity to the character. It’s just sad that he had to die. The only way to make all those voices and screams stop. I believe in the James Blish novelization of this episode, Decker owned up to his mistakes with the Enterprise and retired. Agreed that the real ending was more dramatic than just having him retire.
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This was interesting to see, but I think Marc Daniels made the right choice in going with the broadcast cut. William Windom really nailed that performance. 👍
Scenes like this are the reason this is my all-time favorite Star Trek episode for the past over 50 years. WONDERFULLY played by William Windom. Even in a discarded scene, his performance is top-notch. The scene as used in the episode is just a little bit better. This one comes real close.
I am amazed to see these alternate takes and cut scenes. The wealth of information that has come out in the last few years regarding TOS has really been a godsend to fans who have long awaited this. Thank you for your part, these are fantastic.
This is my all time favorite episode of the whole series. The rewritten scene has more power than the rejected one and Windom's performance is better there.
As other commentators note, this is another take, not a deleted scene. They obviously used the best take for the show. I love the fact that Shatner was there to help with the dialogue (with cues, as actors say). It’s quite a dramatic and challenging scene. It’s impossible to nail it on every take. The mind and focus and easily drift.
I remember watching this episode as a kid and being terrified. Yes, the Doomsday Machine was scary, but how it broke the Commodore was what disturbed me as a child watching this. Windom’s performance was unforgettable. Very happy to see in his IMDB profile that he did win an Emmy for another TV show he did. He was also in the classic To Kill A Mockingbird with Brock Peters, the latter who goes onto to play Admiral Cartwright in ST IV & VI
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I love how fast he went from this broken mess to the PTSD overcompensating Commodore when they get to the Enterprise. I would have liked to have seen Decker on a normal day.
You get to hear a bit of “normal” Decker in his log entry -thoroughly professional and in control. It makes his descent even more tragic. William Windom was a BOSS.
@@gregvincent5821 Decker was a reflection of Kirk in the episode; had the circumstances been reversed, Kirk might have been the broken man in the wreckage of the Enterprise with a lost crew and Decker coming to rescue him.
The used take is soo much better. Especially "Don't you think I know that? There was! But not anymore!" Still thanks Mego for showing us alt takes. I love alt takes and deleted scenes.
This is good, but the take that's shown on the show is far more intense. William Windom thought this was just another paycheck. He exhibited the greatest frontal meltdown in TV history. And, yes, The Doomsday Machine is my favorite episode.
What a talented actor. William Windom had an important part in the feature film "The Detective" starring Frank Sinatra. For the times, the late 1960's, it was a very courageous of Windom to take on such a role.
Star Trek should do more stories similar to cosmic horror like this, that Being encountering strange and powerful things whose nature and reasoning is incomprehensible to us and we are at their mercy. One of the things they like about this episode is that implies at the end that there are more superweapons like the Doomsday machine wandering the universe. Windom did a great performance here, despite his character being a wreck of a man as a result of what he endured, and made some questionable decisions as a result, In the end goes out like a true starfleet officer and made a difference.
I think it's so surreal Wyndham acting with no music in the background. I think I'll start trek episodes. Does not need no backup or background music. Just keep it simple like movie fail-safe.
After John Lennon's murder, Paul McCartney was asked about the possibility of a Beatles reunion, bringing in Julian (John's first son, who looked and sounded exactly like dad, and was an accomplished musician as well). Paul said no, elaborating, "without John, it's not The Beatles. It might work, but it would be three former Beatles, and someone who was never a Beatle, There are no Beatles without John. He can't be replaced." Led Zeppelin said much the same thing upon breaking up after John Bonham's death. There are certain "roles" where the performer can not later be recast. William Windom's Decker is one of them.
@@toddkurzbard Yes, and if you ever get time, take a look into the Beatles' Book called "The Memoirs Of Billy Shears" - You will find it very fascinating. I have a YT Channel on it. 👍🖖
Anyone whose heart does not break watching either version of this scene has no heart. Imagine watching everyone you knew die horribly, people who were friends and even some you considered family.
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Wow ! Interesting that they originally cast Robert Ryan, also a superlative actor, and that would also have been very interesting. I think Ryan would have played up, maybe over played, the revenge, anger, and grievance side. Windom struck a very effective compromise. Brilliant, and a favourite of fans.
William Windom does such a wonderful job of acting showing his great guilt over an incorrect decision to beam down his crew to the planet which the doomsday machine destroyed. This is probably the best episode from the second season without a doubt. Mr. Windom was also in short lived series in the late sixties called "My World and Welcome To It," which was quite good in itself. You don't find talent like Mr. Windom's hardly anymore; R.I.P.
It wasn't a botched decision, at all. The ship was "sinking". What the Doomsday Machine did was the equivalent of the Japanese or German's, or let's be honest, at times, US, machinegunning crew in lifeboats or in the water. Hell, with the Machine it wasn't even personal or even business exactly. It was ever only interested in the target, never what was on or inside, in the case of ships, the target.
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I thought William Windom was a great actor. He did a standup job with this scene. It's more or less the way this scene appeared in the episode as I recalled. It was kind of weird to hear such a scene without the sound effects and dramatic music such TOS scenes always had. I thought they did a masterful job in the scoring of Star Trek TOS.
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William Windom was one reason "The Doomsday Machine" was nominated for a Hugo for Best Dramatic Presentation of 1967. Joan Collins' episode won. Need I go over the rest?
I'd say the Commodore was emotionally disabled to take command of the enterprise based on his state of being. Spock and sulu could have taken command anytime damn the regulations
I read there was a scene filmed but not used from the episode, “Court Martial”, where the daughter of Ben Finney is seen onboard the Enterprise comforting her father in the engine room after his fight with Kirk... is that a scene you can present from your sources? Would love to see that. “Court Martial” could have/should have been a two-part episode-there was a lot of material there. Thanks in advance if you can post any video from that episode. If not, no worries-I loved the deleted scene you posted from “The City On the Edge of Forever”!
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I'd like to see a deleted scene from "Tomorrow is Yesterday" which was written by Dorothy Fontana (D.C.Fontana) an old high school alumnus of mine, who was graduated about 10 years before me.
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My favorite episode of Star Trek. As a young kid, I thought Commodore Decker the bad guy. Now, decades and decades later, I have sympathy for the character. William Windom brought everything to that roll. It was HIS decision to portray Commodore Decker that way. The writers definitely had a more stable character in mind. As an aside, I always that Constitution Class starships were a little like the titanic. How could one transporter room of what, 9 transporter pads, beam down 430 crew in an emergency situation. I think they only had two shuttlecraft. Anyway, picky picky. Trivia. This episode was the first in which they showed the entire bridge 360 degrees. Also, the music might just be the best of the entire 3 seasons. There was one other later episode where they just duped the music from this episode.
Totally INTENSE scene and likely something that many generals in combat (meaning not DEI) have had to deal with. Actually, this scene was in some versions, including the one that I recorded. I will never forget it, it showed more humanity in ONE MINUTE than anything today's studios can produce in a year
William Windom deserved an Emmy for that performance. That slow decent into madness was intense.
Agreed, 100%. All I can say about William Windom in this scene is: "Wow!!!" We all could feel his loss, sorrow, despair, and pain. Thank you for your excellent comments. 👍🖖
One of the best performances on a show that regularly featured incredible examples.
Very nice man.
Yes he should have been given a guest star Emmy but I don't think they had that category in those days now they do have a guest star Emmy award.
It was the Cain Mutiny in just a few minutes.
William Windom was a WWII Veteran, Paratrooper with Company B, 1st Battalion 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 82nd Airborne Division. RIP Troop.
And a very nice man.
@@blgrieb Aye! Here is a story, he drove a considerable distance (I think he was 80 at the time) to reprise Decker in one of the better fanfics before Paramount got bitchy about those. In this version when the shuttle blew up it, instead of killing Decker, it threw him through a time warp into Earth's past where he winds up with a woman who looks a helluva lot like Marlena Moreau (since it's actually Barbara Luna how helped the fanfic, too.) Very cool.
@@dailyqwikbytes Wow, thank you for that information! Do you know the name of the fanfic perhaps? Thank you for the highly excellent comments. 👍🖖
@@megostartrek I'll see if I can find it for your, Mate. Merry Christmas!
@@megostartrek Here you are. "Star Trek Phase II" "In Harm's Way" Malachi Throne AKA Commodore Jose Mendez from the Menagerie is here as well. My Search-fu is excellent. Cheers, Mate.
The take from the broadcast was better. It's also one of my favorite moments of the entire series. He nailed it in that take.
I love seeing this but I can easily see why they didn't use this take. Its almost like he's ad-libing rather than saying the lines.
No, he didn't "nail" it, because this weepy basket case is not what was intended by the writer. Windom invented it for this performance, ruining what would have been a much better episode.
@@beastslayer3228 I disagree that he ruined it. This take was worse, as if it was ad-libbed than the one that ended up in the series. But I think it was imporant to include that because it shows that he is not in any condition to take command of the Enterprise.
This one seems more natural but I was more than fine with the actual run.
@@beastslayer3228respectfully disagree. The only odd thing about this episode was the hammed up fight scene he had with the redshirt.
"Don't you THINK I know that!" hit a little better than "Don't you .. suppose I know that!" Really cool to see these alternate takes though, thanks for posting them!
Yup. The rhythm was better and Windom really got into it.
Yes, I agree that the other "Don't you THINK I know that?!" hit much harder, but this performance of his despair was also Emmy quality. I have many more to upload. Thank you for your excellent comments. 👍🖖
Exactly. It threw off the pacing of the line. Its probably why they did the alt take.
The cut that aired was THE Way
The director knew what he was doing
Wow! Even the outtake rocks.
As I understand it, the normal eight days they had to shoot an episode was whittled down to five for "Doomsday Machine." The director was in such a hurry, and he had such faith in Mr. Windom, that he just left the camera on and let "Decker" do his thing. This looks to me like a first take, and what made the final cut was a more polished second take. That's my impression, anyway. What a fine performance!
Also that sounds like Mr. Shatner's present to interact even though he's completely off camera for this take. He's supporting his fellow performer.
Probably one of the BEST acted scenes, especially from a guest star, in ALL of TOS!!! Never knew this one existed, and this has been my FAVORITE episode since I was a boy in the '60s. I have seen this episode at least 100 times!!! The way William Windom comes off in the final take is moving, realistic and powerful. You can't help but feel sorry for the anguish he went through knowing that his crew was lost, and that, inadvertently, it was his fault. Bravo, never knew this existed. Thanks SO much for this!!! Keep 'em comin' !!!
I agree 100%, George. I was so very impressed by William Windom's acting, in this scene, and in the entire episode of Doomsday Machine. The raw emotion he exhibits is amazing, and there is nothing like this kind of acting in today's television and film. I have so many more of these to come. You are so very welcome. Thank you for your highly excellent comments. Feel free to comment anytime. 👍🖖🏆
Amazed to see new footage after watching it for decades, thank you.
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for windom to be able to turn on the waterworks the way he did is the mark of a top notch actor. the first take was good,but the one that made the final cut is nothing short of brilliant.
William Windom was a great actor; I saw him in countless tv shows, and he always owned whatever scene he was in! Also, loved him as Seth in Murder She Wrote :)
Acting Masterclass....
Unbelievable, that there are actually still existing alternate takes of things like this, just amazing, thank you so much for posting. ST fan since TOS was on and I like many of the ST series but like TOS the best, and TDM is my favorite episode, so cool!!
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I never imagined I'd ever see "deleted scenes" like this.
I watched TOS from the 1st episode in 66'.
I was 12 years old. We had a color tv.
My 'sci-fi, model rocket & space program buff' buddies would gather and watch them all!
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What a brilliant performance, hard to understand how he didn’t win an Emmy.
Unfortunately, no performance in a SCI-FI show, no matter how fantastic, would have been considered worthy of an Emmy back then.
what a great scene! This is one of my favorite episodes, next to the city on the edge of forever. Thank you so much for these🖖🏻
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Thank you for this wonderful further peek into the sublime acting mettle of William Windom.
In a way, this performance presages Windom’s acting turn in what is generally regarded as the finest episode of Rod Serling’s “Night Gallery” a couple years hence (“They’re Tearing Down Tim Riley’s Bar”). In the 1970 episode William Windom breaks down in front of a police officer when he realizes his life is a shambles owing to the loss of his wife and the fact that his last connection with a more innocent and pleasant past is about to be demolished (Tim Riley’s Bar). He regarded his role as aging salesman Randy Lane his finest performance.
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Loved Windom's TV show " My World & Welcome To It"
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William Windom really was awesome in this episode!
Wow!🤩 What a performance!🎭 William Windom was a great 👍 actor!And,yes….he deserved an Emmy Award 🥇 for his performance 🎭 in Star ⭐️ Trek!😊
Thank you for adding this outtake. When Decker talks about the crew begging for help I think of the transporter accident from ST:TMP-those unnatural screams and remember Kirk’s reaction. I can’t even imagine 400 calling out and screaming. Windom’s performance brings a lot of humanity to the character. It’s just sad that he had to die. The only way to make all those voices and screams stop. I believe in the James Blish novelization of this episode,
Decker owned up to his mistakes with the Enterprise and retired. Agreed that the real ending was more dramatic than just having him retire.
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This was interesting to see, but I think Marc Daniels made the right choice in going with the broadcast cut. William Windom really nailed that performance. 👍
Scenes like this are the reason this is my all-time favorite Star Trek episode for the past over 50 years.
WONDERFULLY played by William Windom. Even in a discarded scene, his performance is top-notch. The scene as used in the episode is just a little bit better. This one comes real close.
One of the great character actors from the 60's. I loved his 'My World and Welcome to it" vack in the day.
I am amazed to see these alternate takes and cut scenes. The wealth of information that has come out in the last few years regarding TOS has really been a godsend to fans who have long awaited this. Thank you for your part, these are fantastic.
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This is my all time favorite episode of the whole series. The rewritten scene has more power than the rejected one and Windom's performance is better there.
Weepy Willy at his best. However. they chose the best take. “Don’t you think I know that?”
As other commentators note, this is another take, not a deleted scene. They obviously used the best take for the show. I love the fact that Shatner was there to help with the dialogue (with cues, as actors say). It’s quite a dramatic and challenging scene. It’s impossible to nail it on every take. The mind and focus and easily drift.
What a great actor.
One of my favorite Star Trek episodes. William Windom's performance in this was incredible.
I remember watching this episode as a kid and being terrified. Yes, the Doomsday Machine was scary, but how it broke the
Commodore was what disturbed me as a child watching this. Windom’s performance was unforgettable.
Very happy to see in his IMDB profile that he did win an Emmy for another TV show he did. He was also in the classic To Kill A Mockingbird with Brock Peters, the latter who goes onto to play Admiral Cartwright in ST IV & VI
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I love how fast he went from this broken mess to the PTSD overcompensating Commodore when they get to the Enterprise. I would have liked to have seen Decker on a normal day.
You get to hear a bit of “normal” Decker in his log entry -thoroughly professional and in control. It makes his descent even more tragic. William Windom was a BOSS.
@@gregvincent5821 Decker was a reflection of Kirk in the episode; had the circumstances been reversed, Kirk might have been the broken man in the wreckage of the Enterprise with a lost crew and Decker coming to rescue him.
My favorite episode. Windom’s performance was a materpiece.
Masterpiece, that is. Maybe I shouldn’t have turned off predictive text.
The used take is soo much better. Especially "Don't you think I know that? There was! But not anymore!" Still thanks Mego for showing us alt takes. I love alt takes and deleted scenes.
This is good but the take used in the episode is MUCH better. The director chose the best one. Windom was EXCELLENT!
So chilling and powerful.
You can understand how the loss of his crew drove him mad with guilt.
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These deleted alternate takes are interesting, but it’s easy to see why they weren’t kept.
This is good, but the take that's shown on the show is far more intense. William Windom thought this was just another paycheck.
He exhibited the greatest frontal meltdown in TV history.
And, yes, The Doomsday Machine is my favorite episode.
William Windom was also the grandson of his namesake Vice president William Windom too!
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What a talented actor. William Windom had an important part in the feature film "The Detective" starring Frank Sinatra. For the times, the late 1960's, it was a very courageous of Windom to take on such a role.
William Windom STOLE this entire episode from the cast. He should have gotten an Emmy for this.
Star Trek should do more stories similar to cosmic horror like this, that Being encountering strange and powerful things whose nature and reasoning is incomprehensible to us and we are at their mercy. One of the things they like about this episode is that implies at the end that there are more superweapons like the Doomsday machine wandering the universe. Windom did a great performance here, despite his character being a wreck of a man as a result of what he endured, and made some questionable decisions as a result, In the end goes out like a true starfleet officer and made a difference.
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! This one scene is better than all the Nu-Trek COMBINED!
AMEN!!
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Thank you for sharing these! Never seen this before.
Inexpressilly, no music in the background.
I think it's so surreal Wyndham acting with no music in the background. I think I'll start trek episodes. Does not need no backup or background music. Just keep it simple like movie fail-safe.
Lot of misspelled words but fail-safe. Had no music dialogs at all.
William Windom did the best performance I have ever seen in my life.
After John Lennon's murder, Paul McCartney was asked about the possibility of a Beatles reunion, bringing in Julian (John's first son, who looked and sounded exactly like dad, and was an accomplished musician as well). Paul said no, elaborating, "without John, it's not The Beatles. It might work, but it would be three former Beatles, and someone who was never a Beatle, There are no Beatles without John. He can't be replaced." Led Zeppelin said much the same thing upon breaking up after John Bonham's death.
There are certain "roles" where the performer can not later be recast. William Windom's Decker is one of them.
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One of the best ToS episodes, in part due to William's portrayal of Commodore Deckard losing his crew.
Wow, something new from classic STAR TREK! Unbelievable!
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The final take was probably the best...Windom nailed it.
Anyone whose heart does not break watching either version of this scene has no heart. Imagine watching everyone you knew die horribly, people who were friends and even some you considered family.
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Just when you thought you seen it all about Trek where do they find this stuff incredible 👍
Wow, neat. Of course in the take used, he *really* sells it, and you fully buy into his anguish. This episode terrified me as a kid.
Wow ! Interesting that they originally cast Robert Ryan, also a superlative actor, and that would also have been very interesting. I think Ryan would have played up, maybe over played, the revenge, anger, and grievance side. Windom struck a very effective compromise. Brilliant, and a favourite of fans.
Fred Saberhagen, author of the Berzerker stories, wrote this episode.
Sorry,freind,another classic Sci Fi writer,Norman Spinrad wrote it. Both are excellent writers,though.
Such a spectacular episode, largely due to this guys character.
William Windom does such a wonderful job of acting showing his great guilt over an incorrect decision to beam down his crew to the planet which the doomsday machine destroyed. This is probably the best episode from the second season without a doubt. Mr. Windom was also in short lived series in the late sixties called "My World and Welcome To It," which was quite good in itself. You don't find talent like Mr. Windom's hardly anymore; R.I.P.
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It wasn't a botched decision, at all. The ship was "sinking". What the Doomsday Machine did was the equivalent of the Japanese or German's, or let's be honest, at times, US, machinegunning crew in lifeboats or in the water. Hell, with the Machine it wasn't even personal or even business exactly. It was ever only interested in the target, never what was on or inside, in the case of ships, the target.
this looks like a different take but a good one one of my favorite epsiodes ....thanks for the upload and i just sub to your channel
Thank you, Curtis. Yes, it is a different take, but it contains different dialogue from Commodore Decker. You are so very welcome. I plan on uploading many more. Thank you for the sub and excellent comments. 👍 🖖
More an outtake. Best performance ever in OS.
Intense emotional acting. How long can an actor keep on doing that kind of performance? It must get to them.
Fantastic performance, but the take they went with on the air was superior. But you can see his agony here, driving him mad.
“They say there’s no devil, Jim, but there is! Right out of hell…I saw it!!!” How can anyone watch that scene and not be moved.
This take looks as though William Windom is trying to remember his lines.
I thought William Windom was a great actor. He did a standup job with this scene. It's more or less the way this scene appeared in the episode as I recalled. It was kind of weird to hear such a scene without the sound effects and dramatic music such TOS scenes always had. I thought they did a masterful job in the scoring of Star Trek TOS.
Yes, the music added so very much, that, I don't think that most realized how powerful and masterful the music was, mostly by Fred Steiner, in the episodes. Thank you for your excellent comments. More to come. 👍🖖
William Windom was one reason "The Doomsday Machine" was nominated for a Hugo for Best Dramatic Presentation of 1967. Joan Collins' episode won. Need I go over the rest?
You can see hiw it might have been seen as to distressing in the 60s. Shame this scene couldn't have been cleaned up and cut in. Much better for me.
Dude needs to win an academy award for that. 😏
That was the same scene but a different take, imho the other one was a better performance. (both were great btw).
Not really a deleted scene but an alternate take. Great to see nonetheless.
Quite true. I should have renamed that, but I have many more to come that are deleted scenes. 👍🖖
I'd say the Commodore was emotionally disabled to take command of the enterprise based on his state of being. Spock and sulu could have taken command anytime damn the regulations
I read there was a scene filmed but not used from the episode, “Court Martial”, where the daughter of Ben Finney is seen onboard the Enterprise comforting her father in the engine room after his fight with Kirk... is that a scene you can present from your sources? Would love to see that. “Court Martial” could have/should have been a two-part episode-there was a lot of material there.
Thanks in advance if you can post any video from that episode. If not, no worries-I loved the deleted scene you posted from “The City On the Edge of Forever”!
Yes, I think I have that scene you are talking about from "Court Martial." If I do, I will upload it. I have more to come, just pray that The Lord Jesus Christ gives me the time. Thank you for your excellent comments. 👍🖖
Doomsday Machine and Mirror, Mirror were best 2nd season episodes
“Amok Time” is generally accorded the high water mark for the entire series-but more or less agree about the other two episodes.
You did something great for people like me who like star trek
Thank you, Creepertruckthecar. That means a lot coming from you, because, you have been with me since the beginning. I have many more to come. Thank you for your awesome comments, as always, my friend. 👍🖖🏆
@megostartrek my pleasure!
I'd like to see a deleted scene from "Tomorrow is Yesterday" which was written by Dorothy Fontana (D.C.Fontana) an old high school alumnus of mine, who was graduated about 10 years before me.
Yes, I have listed 2 scenes from "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" by your wonderful friend, D.C. Fontana. I think we are all big fans of her and her amazing and gifted writing. I still have at least one more to upload from that episode. Thank you so very much for these highly excellent comments. May D.C. rest in peace. 👍🖖🏆
@@megostartrek Please keep em coming.
Where did you get this?
Uh, I SAW this scene...many times. Deleted from....WHERE?
This IS NOT a deleted scene!! This is a take that wasnt used. A deleted scene is a scene with content that does not appear in the final product.
Thank you. I do not wish to anger anyone with incorrect language. I will make a correction.
If they didn’t use this take, it’s because it was too intense.
My favorite episode of Star Trek. As a young kid, I thought Commodore Decker the bad guy. Now, decades and decades later, I have sympathy for the character. William Windom brought everything to that roll. It was HIS decision to portray Commodore Decker that way. The writers definitely had a more stable character in mind. As an aside, I always that Constitution Class starships were a little like the titanic. How could one transporter room of what, 9 transporter pads, beam down 430 crew in an emergency situation. I think they only had two shuttlecraft. Anyway, picky picky. Trivia. This episode was the first in which they showed the entire bridge 360 degrees. Also, the music might just be the best of the entire 3 seasons. There was one other later episode where they just duped the music from this episode.
Thank you, Kenny, for your highly excellent comments. I agree with you 100%. Very well said. Thank you. 👍🖖
And later on his son,William,would merge with V'ger.
Thank you for reminding us all of that. He merged with Ilia (aka V'ger). Thank you for this excellent comment! I actually had forgotten. 👍🖖🏆
The one they kept is far better.
Commodore Decker wasn't operating from a slow-burn descent into madness of any kind. What fueled him was overwhelming grief. And overpowering guilt.
The takes they used in the final cut were better.
I think this was just another take. The actual scene was much better.
The original scene was much better.
Not a deleted scene, an alternate and far weaker take.
Totally INTENSE scene and likely something that many generals in combat (meaning not DEI) have had to deal with. Actually, this scene was in some versions, including the one that I recorded. I will never forget it, it showed more humanity in ONE MINUTE than anything today's studios can produce in a year
What in the *bleep* does DEI have to do with it? You might look at some actual "DEI" history, like the Navajo Code Talkers or the Red Tails Squadron.
If you fear diversity, then you have entirely missed the point of Star Trek.
@@lewisvanatta639THIS. 👆👆👆