Well, reviews are out and... Although the foundations for a good combat system are theere, it seems my points were undermined by a simplistic approach to enemy design, which hurt the late game (source: @SkillUp's review). Or maybe not? @LukeStephens said, in his impressions, this weakness was conditional to the warrior class and its power progression. So the combat works... most of the time? When it comes to story, this is also hit or miss. Although it might be good on the macro level (overarching narrative, world, plot, etc.), it might not be on the micro (line by line writing, dialogue, exposition, presentation, etc.), or so says @CohhCarnage in his video. Reviews are subjective, however, and the only consensus seems to be that there is no consensus. Although I have not played it, watching the videos listed below leads me to believe the game is, as @AsmonTV put it, "fine". Not good, not great, just fine. I leave this comment pinned for everyone who might somehow watch this, and not any reviews from bigger creators. DA:TV appears to be a bit of a mixed bag, and whether its contents fit well with you is only something you can decide. I hope this helps with that. Referenced creators and their videos: @SkillUp: th-cam.com/video/QF-Kd2BBpx8/w-d-xo.html @LukeStephens: th-cam.com/video/P5BhuOVbzr4/w-d-xo.html @CohhCarnage: th-cam.com/video/gOs-p2eHXrg/w-d-xo.html @AsmonTV: th-cam.com/video/qVvKAZ7-gRQ/w-d-xo.html
No one is saying a tonal shift is new. We're saying we dont like it. But the issues aren't just with the art direction and tone - which granted, are horrible. More issues compound this: Dummyfying combat by limiting only three active abilities (an attempt to mass effect-ify the game, no doubt). No longer letting us control our companions. Only allowing 3 imported decisions. There are just so many dumb decisions they made for this game, Ill never understand. About a year ago Bioware laid many of its senior devs (likely because they were the most expensive) so in all honesty, it makes sense this travesty is the best the leftover devs could come up with. And to top all this off, they turn around and hire hans zimmer for the composer instead of the inquisition composer Trevor Morris. Like come on, i can guarantee Hans zimmer is more expensive..
"Dummyfying combat by limiting only three active abilities" imo a game's combat isn't only about the abilities, if that's the case then Fromsoft's souls games aren't going to be as revered for its combat as they are.
tbf I NEVER controlled my companions anyway so doesn't affect me. The combat seems better to me. The story is always the primary focus in dragon age NOT gameplay, when you do think about it, many of those old choices are completely irrelevant to what's happening. if the arishok was alive he'd probably had been excecuted anyway and sten probably lost command long ago, zevran already lost his leadership of antiva in da2 cuz he's on the run again. It's giving so much more elf lore and with Ghili'nain it's gonna get so grotesque and dark. The only thing Origins did good was the lack of restrictions on classes with duel wield warriors and armored mages. Origins combat took FOREVER. DA2 had too many damage sponges. Inquisition was fine but also the da2 problem
@@rayclay3249 pls dont compare dragon age or mass effect to a souls game theyr 2 different genres and yes technically ik elden ring for example is an ARPG but its also a souls like which is its own genre now. but even so not all arpgs are the same
Never said all three games were entirely the same, let alone tonally the same. But between the apparent lack of prior worldstate, Solas suddenly being far less intelligent than I know he is, and a sudden swap of goal from the story of stopping solas, the story I longed to see for ten years, to "oh no lets fight two elven gods, thats even cooler, right?" Wallet closed for business, product was not as advertized
Mage spells used to be an overabundance! Now you don't even have 20% of the abilities that the mages used to have options with.. they did it with Inquisition as well. They turned the Primal tree which used to Encompass fire ice electric and earth, and spread it out until that was basically all you had. Plus a little bit of the spirit tree. You used to have primal, spirit, entropy, creation, and then the basic mage abilities. Each of those had 16 options! In DAI, you could not even allocate attribute points! They mixed it into the already barebone ability trees... Then, you had 7 specializations (counting Awakening) of which you could spec into 3! Granting 4 new abilities each! Including passive abilities, and sustained abilities.. What happened to skills?! Alchemy, Lockpicking, Survival, Pickpocket, Silver Tongue, etc?! A 2nd weapon slot so your melee can swap to ranged in a bottleneck, or doorway? Gone! Choice for armor type? Gone! Want your warrior to dual wield longsword/mace/axe? Gone! Give your rogue a shield, or a full sized weapon? Nope! This is not Dragon Age
i mostly agree but take mage for example when it comes to battle mage aka destruction mage most of them were buffs and some spells sucked and were not needed and only there to get more powerful spells and some were more uneccassary and caused alot of clutter when they could be passives and out of the way but yes hell even DA2 werent that dumbed down and that game was made within 18 months and DAI had 5 years give or take
@@BlueFire015 I didnt find much useless, but some were certainly weaker. Some were single target, and had aor counterparts.. I personally loved the toggled abilities, and the creation tree was essential. The spell combos were extremely powerful as well.. I only play on Nightmare though
@@jmmywyf4lyf really i found the lightning and fire stream the short range spells to be useless or basically the cold one was okay for freezing ppl who got close and the dlc tree well some of them were good i think there was a spell to immediately get back spells that were on cooldown which i never used cause there were soo many other spells. either way it doesnt matter DA2 were made in 18 months and they still managed to get atleast most common ones yes ik many got cut but if they made DA2 within 18 motnhs and had enough time to make new particle effects and all of it for the spells that got included but didnt bother trying to do it with inquisition which was made with 5 years we ever see even half of DAO spell list?? personally there is no way even if bioware survives veilguard and then there is the fact of only 3 hotkeys
@@BlueFire015 Lightning drains stamina, and could be useful for melee characters, to reduce their power attacks. Cold damage was weak against some of the veil demons.. Fire as always is just pure damage. Tempest, mixed with Blizzard, to create "Storm of the Century", and its a powerful spell combo. Ofcourse there is some redundancy, and some spells have clear alternatives. But I liked having them. More options to class builds is never a bad thing, imo. Origins is in my top 3, all time favorite games. I replay that game every year pr so. (14 times in total so far, and 7 or 8 times for Awakening). Even the standalone dlcs I have replayed twice. Yes, some of it was also cut in DA2.. That game was designed as an action game, and was quite divisive. I itialky, yiu had to attack for every single basic attack. It wasnt until later, after much backlash, that Bioware added the auto attack function. Theres not even a tactical combat system.. Origins was designed as a proper crpg. To this day, I still dislike DA2.. Inquisition was so bad, that it actually made me sort of appreciate da2. But I just finished it, for the 2nd time ever, and still found it unenjoyable. I quisition didnt even offer 1/5 of the spells and abilities from Origins.. I despise Inquisition.. That game is what officially ended Bioware for me.
I have a strange love/hate relationship with Dragon Age series. DAO: didn't like the combat, but the story and characters were awesome. DA2: hate art style and less locations to discover, but i liked combat more. DAI: better art style and combat felt good and felt good to lead Inquisition, but i don't like MMO which DAI felt like.....still one of my most favorite games. Will give DAV a shot. I think it deserves it. Pronounces? Optional. Scars? Optional. Don't like some companions? Don't talk to them. (Hi Sten, Cole and Merril). Most of the hate looks "optional" 😊
@@thatwonmagnus338 Not sure what you mean, if you bring up the pause menu then you seen them. Otherwise you can disable abilities on screen, health bars, damage numbers etc, as per the Blighted dragon video.
@@sofajockeyUK I dont like how it looks. Disabling it doesnt help me if I still need some of that info especially things like the tactical menu to order my companions to do stuff.
Eight days later and now we know that only three choices from Inquisition and Trespasser will be referenced in Veilguard. Who the Inquisitor romanced (not important), whether the Inquisition was downsized or disbanded entirely (not important, since the Inquisition isn't active anymore anyway after nine years), and whether the Inquisitor vowed to redeem Solas or stop him by any means (also not important since the Inquisitor won't be making that choice now, Rook will). And with that, the Dragon Age franchise has just self-destructed.
Except according to some leaks on Twitter, there is reason to believe they'll be going the route of ME2 and having world state option selections via dialogue in game. Which, if this is true, would be the best option for that to prevent spoilers from the very beginning.
@@Astralaeyna That's cope on Twitter. Hurt fans are speculating they'll get more options. They won't. If that were the case, BioWare would have made that clear to avoid the controversy of it. Having Rook tell Morrigan if she's a mom or not is not going to work, and would only confuse new players.
@@BelieveIt1051 I guess don't understand the problem since it's not like you are the hero of Fereldan or the Inquisitor, you are some one else so very few of the choices made while you played the previous games will matter. I accept I may be off here but I see it not like your continuing on as Commander Shepard like in ME but you are just another chapter of the goings on in the world that DA takes place in...
@@em1536 it always was like that what u on about? the difference now is that all of ur choices on previous games could be reflected on some special questst, dialoge or even items... (Like Sophia Dryden, or Nathaniel and Anders... Zevran quests on 2 and inquisition... etc) and all those years of "world building" on DA Keep are worthless now... what a great way to kill this IP.
@@bladeck99 but why would those choices matter to Rook? If there is another dragon age where they try and bring all of these different stories to a culmination then I can see the point but now we are just going to be another origin story for another protagonist. I just don't see it as the death of dragon age as so many do so I am looking forward to play in that world again.
This was a great video. It's hard to find articles from the time that DAO came out, but I remember critics saying the art style and graphics looked very dated and bland for the time. I remember others saying it all looked too much like Peter Jackson's LOTR films. The fan backlash for DA2 on release was massive. I don't think we've reached that level of angst yet with Veilguard, even though we didn't have to deal with culture ware ragegrifters back then. I HATE what they've done to darkspawn, demons and the Qunari in this iteration, but art style is not why I play these games. It never has been really.
Sadly I don't have proof, only my word, but I can tell you that back in the day the "true gamers" were saying DAO was an insult to CRPGs, dumbing down of mechanics for noobs who don't like "real" RPGs and whatever was the term for "woke" back then (I think at the time it was "virtue signalling"). So, to me is kinda funny how with the passing of the years DAO went from dumbing down RPGs to being the "good one" for certain people. I think DA2 backlash was warranted but nowdays it's like the Dark Souls 2 of the franchise, people only talk about it to say it was underrated.
@@RockoEstalonthere will be always people who complain but overall DAO still got a 9/10 on steam and was already a great game back then. DA2 and DAI on the other hand weren't that good and the decisions they made for this games are just strange. The one heavily dungeon recycling and the other one a boring mmo copy. DAV is not gonna be different and it seems like bioware can't rlly decide for a specific direction since every game is not like the other one. They are doomed to fail with a strategy like that.
@@RockoEstalon Faked Goty by EA. That buggy slob didn't deserve it for various reasons ✅ This Neon Age Vileguard looks & sounds to be worth of fifteen euros. Truly so with it's immortal companions, sliders with zero effect & left behind Qunari.
@@Fedaygin It was given a GOTY in the game awards, not sure what this "faked goty" is about. The companions are not "immortal" also, they work like the Mass Effect squad which you may like or dislike and I'm nos sure what the "Sliders with zero effect" mean.
I’m excited for this game. I like that they are focusing on narrative and after hearing a description of the relationship mechanics, I’m really excited to see how it was implemented. I’ve liked every DA game and the combat has not been the thing that draws me to any of them. So as long as I get a good story with good characters, I’m here for it. Good combat would be a bonus. As a side note, there are a bunch of weirdos trolling around in the comment sections on any positive video. Some fellow really said “Remember what we’re fighting for.” What? “The devs don’t know what they’re doing because there is no blood magic?” (Somebody skipped some entries in the franchise, obviously.) And for some people the qunari foreheads are going to stop them from buying a game? Did they play the rest of the series only because they examined character foreheads and determined that they were satisfactory? Did the hands on any character in the series not bother you? Because they bothered me. Not enough to not play the games. Just enough for me to note that the hands look bad. There’s also the “The game isn’t gritty enough because there’s no painted on blood splatter which is a clear indicator of how mature a story is” thing. Some people think all the games should be brown. And also “Don’t preorder so we can send a clear and unambiguous message to the devs that we don’t want pansexual characters.” How effective do you think that’s going to be? I’ve got opinions about the art style but the complaints most people are posting are just wild. And frequently stupid. And frequently bigoted.
@@casongriffin6984 I would love a good video on qunari character creation. I’ll be honest, I struggle with CC in nearly every game where I have options.
thank you for staying objective! a lot of people seem to have forgotten that dragon age has changed it's combat or character design in every game so far so the online hate is just becoming ridiculous and exhausting at this point. expecting veilguard to somehow be like origins again when the games have moved more and more towards action combat already is just asking for disappointment. personally, i replay the trilogy almost every year and am ass deep in the lore,... the action combat in veilguard is not what i wanted but im sure its probably going to be fun. i cant wait to finally play it😅✊
and how was DAO soo much purer CRPG?? ive played it as an action combat most of the time needed the overhead for some spells to land where i wanted and ofc the pause button, is it the spells and skill tree? okay fair enough relatively but thats not strict to CRPG though and a different conversation this beign said i do much prefer DA2 if only they refined that system and made it better instead of making it worse in every way ohh well
Make sure you make use of the mental illness top scars toggle, in the character creator. You planning on playing as "Bodytype A" or "Bodytype B"? Both likely have some kind of androgynous design. So just flip a coin, I guess. 🤷🏻♂ smh
THANK YOU for this. I've been needing some positivity! I love all the games, and none of the news or controversies which have come out have deterred me. The combat looks fun to me, the character creator looks good, and, as long as the characters and the story are well done, I'm ready! The only thing I was a little bummed out about was the limited world state...BUT, I'll take it if it means a tighter, more cohesive story. If the time that would have gone into writing in a reference line or codex entry goes instead into another interaction with Harding (or Manfred, for that matter) I'll accept the trade off. I also agree that the tone shift happened in Dragon Age 2. If you enjoyed 2 or 3, 4 should be enjoyable. People are saying that Veilguard has too much of a Marvel feel...forgetting the scene where Meredith jumps twenty feet into the air, starts glowing red, and then turns into a statue. As for Flemeth, she kind of looks like Scarlet Witch, haha. If Dragon Age became more "Marvel like," that ship sailed a long time ago. I might be biased because, like you, I prefer faster combat over tactical combat, but the shift isn't surprising. There's less of a shift between Inquisition and Veilguard than there was between Origins and 2. As for the limited choices, they could address those in DLC (there could be a whole DLC exploring what happened to the Hero of Fereldan, for example). Some might complain about their choices being behind a paywall, but, honestly, I'd rather pay $20 for a fleshed out story, and a proper pay off for my choices, than just getting a codex entry.
I never played any of the Dragon Age games for the combat. For me it was always about the story and the adventure. Hopefully Veilguard will have this, and hopefully I won't have to swim through mires of identity politics and wokeness to get to it.
A valid take, but don't discount the takes of people discrediting the combat. Some people loved the crpg approach the game had, especially Orgins. With BG3's release, despite the "wokeness" and identity politics infecting it, it was a great game for those who value the true to form crpg from tabletop experience, even though Larian took some unfortunate creative liberties. The only reason Origins right now is so great, is because the other Dragon Ages after it have been subpar, with each new entry worse than the last. Whether it's story, combat or political messaging, the earlier the game, the better it used to be.
Very interesting video. Personally, I'm especially annoyed by the comments I often see around about Veilguard "not being Dragon Age anymore", whenever I see that, I always think to myself "when was Dragon Age... Dragon Age really?". I love every entry despite their flaws, but it always felt to me that it's a series that never found its footing unlike Mass Effect. It's a series that's never been consistent apart from the lore. The combat system, the art direction (apart from the angular visual language that's been established in DA2), the music, etc... are always different. The only thing that's been a constant is the tactical pause. There's always been a tactical pause in one form or another and Veilguard is no exception.
Dragon Age: Origins was Dragon age. The Darkspawn weren't just scary they were horrifying from their design to what they did.. Broodmothers were easily the most disturbing thing about them and now they look goofy as hell. They were never mindless., they are driven by instinct to seek out the old gods, ancient dragons of unfathomable power that lay imprisoned beneath the Earth, in order to corrupt them into Archdemons. Oh if you want to make a lore accurate Qunari mage they should mute as the Qunari cut out the tongues of mages. This was made by people that never played the original and either ignore or retcon the previously established lore as they please. This is not Dragon Age.
To me the "DA DNA" as IGN put it has always been an interesting story, interesting characters and interesting choices (made in the game I am currently playing) that have interesting consequences. So far, everything I have seen indicates that these are very much present in Veilguard. Changing the combat system - which I see as a good thing because combat has never been a highlight in a DA game for me - does not mean that any of the things I view as "DA DNA" has to be changed.
@@rAnDomcaPiTaLs3 Recently replayed DAO and I have to agree, not a fan of the combat in pretty much any DA game and I for one I'm glad you don't get to control the other characters because I feel Bioware never really knew how to tackle tactical gameplay after they abandoned the Infinity Engine.
@@jaredfrancis5062 Darkspawn are only driven when they find an archdemon and start a blight. Otherwise they're not really organized. Also not sure what you mean with "making lore accurate Qunari mages", if you mean making your protagonist a Qunari mage, the Qunari that you can control in game are Tal Vashot, meaning those living outside the Qun. It wouldn't make sense to create Player Character a Qunari that follows the Qun regardless of them being a mage or not since they can't act freely. I doubt any Dragon Age game will let you be a Qun follower since the setting states they're bad.
Oh, and the fact that they were all party based RPGs. Which is what gave that tactical pause weight, as it gave you easier agency over your allies. In Veilguard, they are a cooldown. Yes, tactical pause exist, but your companions are just a cooldown.
Awesome video! You're making great points that I'm not hearing others make regarding the Dragon Age series as a whole and Veilguard. This video is very refreshing compared to many other veilguard videos I have watched. I appreciate your balanced take.
Everything i heard, completely true lol loved your video !!! Yeah the Darkspawn looks so goofy, but overall I think the game looks fun, the mindless hate makes me sad for the ppl who work for so long in this, i just hope the story is good, I'm a long-time DA fan and i will play it regardless of what others think.
it is good to be skeptical, but to be hatefull towards a piece that has not even been released yet is just mindless, together with the fact that most people (not all of them) beying hatefull are not even fans of old dragon age stylle as much as just using the changes to attack the new "woke" punching bag
im gonna ignore the identity politics cause its politics and therefore divisive what is undeniable is that 1 three hotkeys is a joke and its a horrible thing and to blame this on action combat which some do is also annoying cause they seem to forget Bethesda have used action combat in elder scrolls morrowind and oblivion are very deep so action combat isnt inherently worse its just devs normally just doing action and being lazy and not making it deeper not the fault of the system itself just the devs, there is nothing wrong with liking crpg and to say that DAO is even a pure CRPG is also kind of a joke cause u can play that game like an action game just fine in most cases. the artstyle okay well i would hate it less if it looked better but to me idk it jsut looks off i mean i like DA2 and that was quite cartoony in a way but still okay atleast considering the development time, veilguard have no such excuse and what they did with the qunari i mean in DA2 they looked amazing and then in 2024 we see that its not good... but uknow i do wish we seen DAI graphics jsut alot rougher and alot nicer but thats just me. what im trying to say is what they have shown soo far, there is alot of valid negativity about the game and srsly u are gonna defend these ppl that made it soo only 3 goddamn thing is taken from previous games and none of them include who is on the throne of orlais or who is on the throne of ferelden and who is on the throne of orzammar and who is the new divine and what happened with branca how can u or anyone defend theyr decisions for not working harder to make it so my decisions from previous game matters?? BECAUSE IT DOES.. and one of the 3 goddamn thing is who u slept with i mean srsly dont get me wrong that is bad cause they havent accounted for any other important thing otherwise it would be a nice little personal touch i mean how morrigan talks about the warden in inquisition is heartwarming considering what she used to be like but in this its just....
@BlueFire015 yep, I was replaying all 3 thinking how cool it would be to the consequences of my choices and their payoff... now I'm just sad Thanks for sharing your thoughts, we better have fun playing other games while waiting for the reviews and see if it will be at least fun to play or just a pass
DEI = DOA It's not politics. DEI kills creativity by pushing agenda over good story, good gameplay, good artwork, and good hiring. Shouldn't the best ideas, artwork and employees be picked? It's why we're closing our wallets to ANYTHING DEI.
@@wiliestrogue2924 DEI is political okay always have been? Forst of all vonsider tye money ultimately comes from blackrock anf vanguard im sure u heard of them one lf the leaders of US and then there is the facr ITS IN EVERYTHING from media to military to goddamn a normal shopping store
Great video. I am very excited, and I completely welcome the game play changes because I love the way the combat looks it is super action but with still some tactical elements to it as well. The art style has changed between every game and does not really bother me at all. I play Dragon age for the lore and stories, so I am very excited to have Solas story continued. i am playing it day 1 because i waited 10 years and cannot wait to be back in the Dragon Age Lore and World.
I "Mourned" Dragon Age Origins long ago. For two or three years I was a bitter asshole lol, but after I tried DA2 and Inquisition and enjoyed them for what they were. Part of me is still pissed off at how everything that was hinted at in the Awakening DLC of Origins was thrown out the window in the sequel and how it happened again with the "Mage Rebellion" that starts at the end of DA2 getting solved in the first quest of Inquisition like it's nobody's business. I'm happy that at least Veilguard stops fucking around and is a genuine sequel to what was set up on Tresspaser. What I think has hurt Dragon Age the most is not having a real interconecting plot. Mass Effect is as messy as Dragon Age, every sequel has the reapers do whatever because they wanted to make the games more like Gears of Wars or because the fans guessed the ending like it happened with Lost, but you had the same Shepard in the three games and all companions that were alive returned even if you could not control them. Meanwhile on Dragon Age I have to endure the protagonist from the first game being in a "secret quest" because they are scared of making them come back (and also because some idiots decide to let them die).
I'm playing Veilguard all day on its release. I've been waiting 10 years for a new Dragon Age game and everything I've heard and seen about Veilguard is awesome. The linear level design, combat that looks like a mix of Dragon Age and Mass Effect action, and a larger focus on companions and choices. Also the hair physics and character creator really looks incredible. Thank you for making an optimistic and cheerful video in anticipation for this game!
Honestly this reminds me a lot of back when Call of Duty Infinite Warfare was announced and pretty much the entire internet decided it was awful game months before it launched. Without seeing any gameplay hating it just off the fact that it was another Sci-Fi Call of Duty which nobody wanted at the time, especially not the COD fanbase. Now sure people are entitled to feel how they feel but so many videos and comments I've seen the last few months basically proclaiming that DA The Veilguard as a terrible game before the vast majority of people have even had a chance to sit down and play it. This seems to have really become a thing the last few years were people will denounce a game after having only seen a cinematic trailer if the art style isn't to their liking or something. Granted the reason people do that is as gamer's we have been put through a lot of BS these last few years, but I think it's left a lot of people jaded. I mean at least play a game for a while before saying it's a failure. Besides I think most people don't realize what a trainwreck this game's development has been, pretty sure they started work on it shortly after wrapping up work on Trespasser, during which time there have been multiple versions of Dragon Age 4 including one that was a live service multiplayer game which thankfully got scraped after Anthem was a huge failure. Pretty sure EA wanted Bioware to make all their games (Dragon Age and Mass Effect) live service. So now we have The Veilguard which even if it isn't to everyone's tastes, it's single player, it's a story-focused, choice-based RPG, they got rid of pointless MMO-open world aspect that honestly made playing Inquisition a chore most of the time. People should also remember Bioware's history, sure they're aren't a lot of choices carried over from Inquisition but that happened with the Mass Effect games as well. I think most Dragon Age fans need to realize how much worse this game could have turned out than the one we are getting.
i agree so much. nice breakdown. i think the marketing of the game cause of some CEO or whatever was really bad. the game itself looks promising tho and makes many things much better than the old games. still hoped we would get a dragon age game which just is origings in better graphics and with bigger more immersive maps. but you might be right that this will never happen - for dragon age at least... the only things which bothers me are the sparkling interface, the too overloaded hud during gameplay and the too weak companions during fights. i hope we can adjust things here when the game comes out.
Thanks, man! I wouldn't worry about the hud or interface. Either mods or BioWare's own patches will take care of it, I'm sure. As for companions, this being a much more action focused entry, I would place my hopes in build synergy, primers and detonators to make the team feel powerful. No way to tell without a personal, hands-on experience or a trusted reviewer's feedback, though.
its not a dragon age game, neon knight confirmed its a god of war 2018 with a tone of guardians of the galaxy thats extremely liner. its a skinsuit GoW wearing a cartoonish DA skin
You're the first who really analyze the game as it is, a new game. We love a lot old Dragon Age games but doesn't mean we can't enjoy a new game. Great video!
Consume, consume and don't be an aware consumer, JUST CONSUME. Love it. It's all positivity and politics injection, we should be happy about it. OMG, so much fun! (that was sarcastic btw)
BioWare changing the style of the game with every sequel isn’t as good if a positive as you think it is. That is precisely why I’m not excited for DAVG. Whether it’s tone, combat or art direction. To me this says the game has no identity ESPECIALLY when it had a great, grim and gritty feel with DAO. Was there the occasional joke? Yes. No one is disputing this. But everything felt.. for lack of a better word.. fucked. And I loved it. No hame has captured me quite like that. Warhammer(its lore) is kinda the same but cranked to 16 and breaks the knob off. I’m just going to wait from reviews and see what it looks like when people stream it before considering to buy it. Right now it’s giving me no reason to go in on it.
There’s stuff I’m looking forward to seeing, stuff I’m concerned about. The Qunari forehead is a huge point of contention for me, it looks like cosplay done wrong. With that being said, I will preorder it. I’ve seen enough to make up my mind. It’s understandable why others may not want to even play the game, though.
@@Rell.from.hideout That’s only part of it. Some people adamantly love Origins and no other DA game can live up to it. Then there are people who just want to see the game, BioWare and EA burn. There are several reasons why. And finally? Some people can’t get past the art style. As long as kelts fun with great replay value, I don’t mind the art so much. But that’s just me.
I'm looking forward to Veilguard. Storytelling is something I really enjoy. Combat looks different, and I'm alright with it, I really hope they succeed with this project
The hate is coming from people who have short memories. Dragon Age has reinvented itself with every iteration, including art style. It has ALWAYS had terrible marketing. It's tradition at this point. It's always been shocking, always been divisive. Dragon Age also has an amazing story, lush world lore, and fun gameplay. I am beyond excited and I'm happy to see someone else excited about it. I feel like every time a game comes out a very *particular* crowd gathers around it to throw tomatoes, no matter what game it is. It makes me wonder what games these gamers actually play. I've seen people complain about stuff like the female body proportions arent unrealistic enough to very reasonable critiques about the party size. But really, most of the critique is the former type of nonsense. Realistic skepticism is great for games. Catastrophizing is pointless.
Ha! Remember Origins using that 30 Seconds to Mars song for their trailer? Good times. Love the last 2 lines, btw. "Realistic skepticism is great for games. Catastrophizing is pointless." Thanks for watching Sam!
Yet they failed to make a good iteration. They lost the ip identity each time. DAO was a love letter to CRPG. DA2 was a button masher, DAI was a whanna be mmo. DAV seems it is generic fantasy game made for the moden audance.
Not sure I have seen anyone complay that bodies aren't "unrealistic", only that body sliders are very limited and don't allow for a lot of body diversity. They have some, but not much. There's not even a muscle slider, only body shape which is different from actual muscles.
@@EcardEcardian Origins' gameplay style never 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥 the IP. It was left behind 13 years ago. For better or worse is up to interpretation but every game tries something new and that's not a bad thing. Like it or not, action games are more popular now. The sales numbers prove that. Bioware isn't obligated to go back to the old style just because a loud minority wants it. Besides, what really defines the IP is the story, characters and world. That's why most people play Dragon Age not the gameplay.
@@TerranToro That is due to EA buying Bioware and all talent left. Action games was the thing at the time, so they went after trends insted of I do not know, leting the ip be this good CRPG it was. That they try something new each time means they do not know the ip. They do not know what makes the ip tick. There has only been downgrades in the ip sense DAO, DA2 was downgraded game compared to DAO, looking at Mass Effect 2 did the same, DA lost its idenity due to they try something new each time, new people making the games. The story, characters, dialog has taken a nosedive after DAO.
Bioware did a poor job marketing this game initially. That first trailers tone was completely off. I am definitely excited for it now after more information has come out though.
this video hit it right on the mark...this is awesome...I myself am going to play veilguard for the story and the lore, the combat may be a try to innovate an action tactical combat but it is very dangerous to do so since Bioware might have this game as their saving grace since previous games the last few years were failure...Skill tree looks good, progression in terms of being able to upgrade items seems interesting...the only thing i think that people are not happy about hence them bashing the game, is how EA and Bioware had been marketing this...they market this not for its story, not for its new concepts for progression or combat tactics, they market this as woke, they market this as inclusive, they market this targeting "modern audiences" with all their mentions of "pansexual companions" "first ever openly non binary companion" "they them as pronoun" in the game...many people are sick of this agenda and they are afraid that this political agenda will be shoved down their throat and they used the game to push for it more...i myself am afraid of that, but i will still buy and play the game...i am seeing the good points you discussed in this video, and you actually discussed it the way I see it too
In my head, "pansexual companions" actually meant: "You can sleep with whoever you want! Yay! No more worrying about your companions' real sexualities, lol! See? Like BG3, we can be inclusive AND horny too! Yaaaaay!" Or something like that. Anyways, thanks for taking the time man. Let's hope it's better than we think.
Nah. You should wait for reviews at least. Wallets closed to this slop. This isn't the same DEV company we remember. All the OG's are gone. Help send a message that we will no longer tolerate DEI garbage.
I hope the modern audience will buy it because i wont. Everyone who has played the game says its a god of war + Guardians of the galaxy game clone...This is not Dragon Age
It's refreshing to see valid criticism with actually logical arguments over pure "Hate" for upcoming Dragon Age. So far "no open world" (which means better pacing for narrative and at the very least much less collectibles and redundant fetch quests) is a music to my ears and action combat showcase seemed cool and deep enaugh with different builds, synergies and ability to reassign ability points without the need to respec. My only concern is that "wokeness" is really strong in this one, but so far it is evident only in characters (appearances and backstories). If it won't effect the story in a negative/retarded way then I suppose we can make our peace with black/asian elves 😅. But damn I'm getting tired of uglification of women characters and other crap we have to deal with in games these days.
Yup. Combat looks great. More depth. I am excited about that. And I really hope the story is great. I am a story guy. Love a good story. I do not care if characters have big boobs or small boobs. Big butt or small butt. I am not playing these games to simp over characters. I am all in for combat and story. People can comment how they want on everything, including my comment here. We live in a world where we have free speech, but first and foremost, I am a gamer. Mechanics and story are the most important things for me.. Good video. I'm getting more excited for this game now. But I won't pre-order. Waiting for a patch or two first.
We haven't had blood magic since DA2 (and even then it had no bearing in story). Same with abominations (spirit healers). Hell even origin didn't mention your character being a blood mage or abomination. And don't get me started about party members (like Alistair)/your character being a lyrium addict (templar).
FYI they actually may bring blood magic back but it will be very different and will change the game in a lot of ways and it would be it's own class IF it comes back
@@Comandate7 The difference is that we are in Tevinter, blood magic central. It makes way more sense that the class should be available. Origns did bring up the blood magic/apostate thing but it was handwaved as the wardens having the right of conscription. Neither Alistar or the PC was a lyrium addict. Alistar didnt become a full templar so he didn't do rites. He even mused that lyrium was just being used by the Chantry to control templars (which was sorta confirmed with Cassandra's revelations in Inquisition). And the PC just learned some tricks from Ali or read a skill book to get templar skills. Your arguements don't even make sense.
I agree with some takes, and I can't entirely agree with others, overall a great video. The best way to go by this game is to wait for actual good reviews from reputable sources, if it`s something you like, go buy and have fun, if you enjoy but don`t want to spend the full price, wait for a discount, I`m sure it won`t take long for a 30% off, if the pre-orders numbers are correct, this game will lose money in its initial release phase.
@@souran1321 Nope just looks like shit, awful art style, boring combat and ugly arse bobblehead characters. To many games coming to waste on total shit like this.
I am with you on this, I am looking forward to this one. I got mine pre-ordered. I don't get all the hate for this either but fine if folks don't like it just don't buy it. I have no doubt I will do this just like the others and play every combo you can.
I feel like the hate is mostly due to the culture wars in America because of their upcoming election... its a shame though because the game doesn't deserve this hate just because of one country's politics, especially since most of us excited for the game are from other countries. Thank you for this breath of fresh air opinion. The game is overhated for all the wrong reasons that it's hard to distinguish genuine opinions from political ones.
The world doesn’t revolve around elections between a loon and corporate speaking head, plenty of players from Central Europe and other regions mock the ugly Marvel vibes of supposedly dark fantasy game
@@ninisdilemma look, I am Russian liberal and I hate that my taxes go to thing I cannot name before I depart the cuntry forever or to Lauren Chen and Tim Pool and Truck of clown sons. American rightoid narratives are the thing our arch lich in Kremlin imported here 20 years ago and let fester via state bankrolled propaganda with known geopolitical results. But your leftie bs is just off the charts insane to anyone living outside Anglosphere. We legit are just laughing at insane unrelateable lazy slop coming from Hollywood and BBC and game dev we used to worship. It’s just the self-obsessed post colonial English-speaking cluster dump that does not react to anything but Chinese bans on content because I suppose people earning 200-700-1000$/month are not relevant enough for you around the world despite buying games once in a quarter, I guess. Who needs to learn a second language with actual genders living in a hegemony and actually study the world, right? Hurt durr, can always invent nu-genders for your bored teens and step on the one of two things that made English world’s lingua franca, it’s relative simplicity. I depart with disgusted Cassandra noises and you are free to worded why the world mocks self-absorbed Americans so much
@@ninisdilemma So you like politics in game? Instead of quality mechanics? Instead of attention to detail? Instead of interesting dialogues, stories and characters? Instead of discovering a cool lore and being surprised by sudden change of plot? You are in luck. This will be an amazing politically injected slop. From dark and doom and fun world of Dragon Age, to this nice and pink and politically correct and pronoun using shit fest. You should watch the gameplay without commentary. It's out there. Go and see how the quality of dialogues and characters. It's plain as day. Culture wars are here whether you like it or not. Some people think it's a great idea to inject our beloved IPs with them to the brim. I think it's horrendous and they should f*** right off. There is no space for this in gaming industry.
A little irrelevant, but DAV's graphics are going to age much better than previous entries because of the stylized art direction. I'll never understand the vitriol toward it.
I love Dragon Age for the stories, and characters and can appreciate each game as its own thing. I love the lore of the world as it's grown. Honestly, I'm really looking forward to Veilguard. The trick is to ignore literally everyone having a good cry about it. The Devs will never please everyone.
dragon age the veilguard is woke trash especially when they are pushing LGBTQ+ propaganda, Pronouns & DEI in the faces of real gamers who just want to have fun & the 25 years of playing games myself I've never seen it this bad, plus all of the decisions that you made in the previous games are irrelevant
well being an avid fan of origins and Da2 I'm still not sold on this game i think the character artstyle is the biggest problem for me. Ithought the elves in inquisition looked really bad but this direction worse! I'm not excited to ply a character that looks like this. On a posisitive note i think the combat looks tactical and interesting....better than Inquision anyhow. Great video!
Thanks for watching, man. As for the race designs, I'd say: Origins - best elves. DA2 - best qunary. I hope this one has a character creator robust enough to let you make a protagonist you are excited to play as. If not, there's a ton of great games out there. Cheers!
I have genuine hope for the quality of the game as I believe they will have done anything and everything to make this into a masterpiece. The alternative is that Bioware will be dissolved if this isn't going to hit. The slow-minded already condemn it and use that empty term "woke". Give them a fair last chance, please. And if it turns out all character development and drives revolve around the companion's preferences only, all criticism will be fair.
Agreed! I’m hoping it does well. If it doesn’t? We can all get together on TH-cam and laugh at it later! But for Heaven’s sake, please stop using the term ‘woke’…! It really is an empty term, If you have valid points and concerns then fine, just explain where you’re coming from!
@@Cheff-oc4wu I do mean people who call trans people mentally ill. There is a myriad of things I could call that hateful bunch, but slow-minded seemed the most fair to me. Also, I'm not really begging anyone to like it. Just give it a fair chance.
I gave them a chance and from everything they showed so far art style is not my type, enemy design is bad, characters design are, while not bad, forgetable, gameplay is mediocre, animations are bad, dialogue is bad, CC is limited, Rook has forced "pure as snow" morality and only 3 choices are imported. I was about to play this game only for the sake of closure but since no old choices matter (or get mentioned) it would seem like continuing their story instead of mine (especially bad since they bring back old characters like Morrigan and Varric).
From what I've seen I like the new combat in Veilguard. Like Mass Effect Andromeda the combat is probably going to be the highlight of the game for me. I also like the new art style. Grim Dark isn't the only way to do fantasy, and this looks like something I wouldn't mind playing with my niece around when I'm babysitting, on a no romance run of course, no spicy scenes with little eyes around. Fantasy CRPG's flood the landscape, for me there aren't enough western action rpg's out there. Don't get me wrong, Baldur's Gate 3, Divinity Original Sin 1&2, Pillars of Eternity 1&2, and Tyranny are all great games, but sometimes you just want some faster moving combat that isn't a shooter.
I'll give it a year before i get it, give it time to get full reviews, let bioware finish/fix it through patches, and hopefully modders will have mods to put in better looking models for darkspawn, have normal sized heads etc. Might eventually end up a good game so I'll look forward to it.
@@RockoEstalon maybe not, in those games they did change the look but they kept them realistic, these ones look like they take 5 seconds to fall after stepping off a cliff, and leave a dust cloud behind.
I do not trust BioWare to make a game like we want. I trust them though make a game that investors wanted back in 2016 when this game was probably greenlit. And because of that, I'm out.
I don't want this game, not even if they pay me to play it. I only want it when they reboot all the characters and character characterization and remove this DEIVIL agenda from the game.
That was my main gripe with Inquisition, not very much armor and weapon variety at alllllllll. Then they did that black emporium DLC and it also added fuck all.
"Positivity towards the Veilguard is bad you should only criticize it!" also you: "But, you can't say anything bad about the previous games!" Hypocrite.
@@Ammy-q4w You aren't smart. He hasn't said anything hypocritical here - it's just that you don't understand English or just project your own weird mentality.
this game flopped and it isn't even out yet. *edit* well I tried; sucks your entire conclusion is subjective opinion but it is your video - you're allowed to have it, lol. Just no facts, no objective truths to support this being a good game. (or even, not a bad one!) EA though, not sure what people were expecting - every franchise they've ever owned has crashed and burned or is in the process of doing so.
I don't mind the change in art style. It is just childish, and the whole game feels that way. It is physically impossible for me to listen to the dialog between Harding and Bellara. It's the voice acting, i feel like a am a fucking baby in my little cradle with the finger in my mouth, listening to a fairytale. None of the companions feel interesting to me. Why are they pushing Harding so hard? That gnome who were there to just introduce you to a new location in Inquisition. I would rather see more mature and established as a character Sera. No, they had to go with the lamest option. But i probably just need to take a shower.
Great video, and you make a great point, the only thing I have been hearing from Fans all over the internet is "This is not Dragon Age", and I am here thinking, none of the Dragon age games are the same, NONE, all of them are unique in their own ways. I for one, am excited to play this game and based on what I have seen, I am pretty sure I will enjoy it, and if so-called "true" fans say is trash and they won't even buy it, well I am sorry, but go cry a river somewhere else, cause I know what I am gonna be doing Halloween afternoon after work and I know I am going to have a really nice experience.
The Qunari that's lil left behind yes 🙃 Immortal Companions, sliders to have zero effect in character creation screen. This one to look & sound like it's worth of fifteen euros 😵💫
To be fair the main complains just boil to it aint origins. Not to even downplay it, its just literally all the creators that complain about it just only bring up origins. Even a creator did a video complaining about veilguard titled origins vs the world. (EDIT) I do want to make clear Bioware 1000% fucked up just advertising the game. Ppl actually talking about and saying how its a lot better than what was introduced just says leagues on how marketing wasnt sure on how to advertise it. They really wanted to showcase the combat cuz thats something new also to hopefully bring in some new eyes, still messed up with that. Then when it came to what DA as an IP is known for which is the story and dialogue they just completely butchered. These newer videos of ppl that had hands on with the game is doing keagues in putting things into perspective than what they have done unfortunatley. I dont even care bout DA as a franchise m mainly care for ME, and for me at least veilguard has caught my eye from what ppl are saying. Mainly cuz of dialogue and actions. Playing Inquisition rn got origins to at least see what those fans are talking about and sadly due to the latest update it crashes once i open it. I will get to it after i beat inquisition and veilguard.
I am a big fan of the dragon age series. I love the lore. I love dark fantasy RPG’s. My favorite game is Witcher 3, but dragon age origins is probably #5 on favorite games list. I have played all 3 DA games and expansions. I liked all of them but they all had flaws as well. But the story was the biggest thing for me. I am also a straight male, married with kids. There has been LGBT characters in all the games but they never really through it in your face. My hope is that they don’t do it now either. I don’t care if there are gay people in the game because they are in real life. However the graphics here for the characters do look a bit kiddie. Also would it kill them to make some good looking women in this game. Neve is ok looking but the others look hideous. Especially sense they keep making a big deal about romance in this game. Can they just pay some straight guy like $5,000 for 2 hours to go in and make a hot chic character model?? Also the “3 choices” that was leaked is not good. I think it would have been ok if they would have made it 50 years or so in the future and not happen right after Trespasser, but because they did it should have more of your choices from the other 3 games.
fightings looks like amalur:reckoning meets AC valhalla. Don't get me wrong as long as it's fun i'm in. My concern are for plot and story, for example all origin stories looks veeeery similar - your action contains freeing some poor folks, pissing off some menagment, and fleeing because now someone wants your head. But we wait until is released and than we can argue. BTW that's first video where someone says some good things about Veilguard
You are missing one key point. The center of a good story, are the characters. And their design suck. And not only their design, but also the players design suck. This whole woke movement just hates good looking people. I was already bummed out in DAO with Sera and Isabella. But this time they really go for the ugly trend.
Desasturation is not good design, it's a skill issue. Color is not the enemy, it creates more interesting visual storytelling. Visual Realism is boring and makes games look the same. Cartoonish visuals are not all for kids, they create a unique visual signature. Realistic styles age really badly in comparison to chartoonish styles. If you don't understand, Halo was considered Realistic when it originally came out. The people who blindly hate this game, spouting off false or bad faith arguments need to go touch grass. I takes so much energy to hate for hatred's sake. If the game happens to be good and but you've convinced yourself it'll be bad, you'll likely still have a bad experience. I'll admit I didn’t like the style at first and I agree with the head size, but I all so think the fan 'fix' makes them too small. I liked the first add with the fun character intros. It was nice to see the characters feel so happy and alive... because I'm a monster that enjoys seeing happy characters have to face dark realities as it makes for a more interesting set of tone shifts. Characters that are already sad/grumpy who face darkness are boring, *cough* Kratos, and/or annoying edge lords. The style grew on me with the game play showcases and I got excited. You don’t have to like or be excited for the game, but unless you've played it, you cant say definitively what the game is or isn't.
The combat actually matters to me very little. The art style, while I don't like it, is something I could overcome. My worry is I can feel a tone shift I don't like (based on a feeling, so not facts admittedly) and when I heard about this "everyone's pansexual" thing I felt some soul seep out of the game. I never cared how inclusive or not it was, but I LOVED the stories of the characters around me like Dorian being multifaceted and complicated and having their sexuality and character something that was part of them and the story told. I liked the twists and turns in emotion and story through the characters and MY choice and how it interacted with them. I see Veilguard and feel that not only slipping, but possibly being ripped from the series in what, let's face it, is probably the end of it. I just won't bring myself to buy it, which as a fan since origins will be hard. I will watch reviews of the actual game and think about buying it next year. I BEG everyone not to preorder it. Let's at least try to kill the marketing corporate machine that neuters and spits on IP fanbases. Now THAT'S the real dark a gritty storyline.
With so many reviews now from youtubers who played 7 hours (including sceptical youtubers like Luke Stevens,which was a shocker), I think I've seen enough to buy it on release. I really want to play this, and the points that are bothering people (totally understand) aren't bothering me. I'm all about the writing. And the writers here are talented vets from old BG/DA/ME days.
@@RandomWandrer That's fair, but I just don't trust Bioware to buy it on a tailored 7 hour experience. I don't think I can trust the story and writing until I see a review of the actual full game, which I why I'm going to try to wait. That said, I'm watching character creation vids, into the faction choice addition, and may buckle. But if it isn't good I will be upset lol, as long as we aren't preordering.
As a bi man, I do not need every bi characters story to be about them being bi. These characters just happen to all be bi/pan. Doesn't affect me. I have a life. If the only thing you're bothered about is the pansexuality of their characters, you need to go OUTSIDE.
@@professorwright1428 I'm not bothered that there ARE pan characters. I'm worried that slapping the same sexuality on all of them indicates a laziness in the story telling. Sexuality is a part of someone, and just making everyone pan tells me they just wanted to have same dialogue to apply and not to have to flesh out interesting storylines like the Dorian storyline in Inquisition. That storyline was touching to me, had tons of specific lines to the situation, and also resonated with me as a gay man like not many or any stories had in games. So by all means have pan characters. But don't tell me making every single character pan so no matter who your character is they all react the same in every playthrough isn't just laziness with a fake pan acceptance label crudely slapped across it.
@@squicker I was even willing to buy it as a long time fan willing to try anyway, then saw that SO many choices from before don't matter. My Divine doesn't matter? Who lived in even just Inquisition doesn't matter? If I romanced Dorian who should be in the new setting because he said he would and THAT doesnt matter? We know Morrigan is in the game, but if she romanced the Grey Warden or had a kid doesn't matter!?!? Streamlining some, sure. But the Morrigan and Dorian info from even the last game not mattering is actually disgusting to me. I went from a maybe to a FIRM not buying until there's a sale. IF at all. Totally furious at the devs.
It is a great video and some points I understand its good to have different views and opinion even if i personally don't agree with them DA will never be like before and personally, I don't think I will enjoy it becource as a DAO player I am likely not the target audience DA even constant shifting got worse over the years and even if I enjoyed DAI everything i see about DAV shows me they creat a dark spawn an abomination manny will not like
I hear you. @NeverKnowsBest has a nice retrospective you might enjoy watching (if you have 3 hours to spare). Thanks for taking the time with my video man
I’m more excited to see it launch and fail. As someone who 100% achievement Dragon Age Origins and did over 8 playthroughs of that game. I just want The Veilguard to fail. This isn’t my Dragon Age anymore, it’s some woke activists hijacking. When I can’t make my hot attractive waifuu character in character creation that is where I draw the line. I want this game to fail so bad. I hope BioWare shuts down. I don’t want a new Mass Effect game anymore. Just shut down the studio already EA. The devs that made BioWare great are long gone. Quality has deteriorated. RIP Dragon Age IP.
Op In a post to Blue Sky, Gaider wrote, “Apparently the usual suspects are upset at how ‘woke’ the new Dragon Age is, an apparently sudden and unexpected development in the series.” He added, “F***ing tourists.” As long as I worked at BioWare, there was always a portion of the fanbase who wanted whatever we were doing to be more like the LAST thing. With NWN, it was BG2. With DAO, it was NWN. With DA2, it was DAO… and so on, always with bitterness. I'm not sure where you decided I said one cannot find things in DATV to criticize. I'm simply saying that, if your criticism is that it's "suddenly gone woke", like this isn't consistent with everything in the series before it, you're an idiot. Then again, "woke" seems to expand its meaning daily. That's what he thinks of you an idiot and tourist because it's always been like that, and them having more OPTIONAL OPTIONS doesn't mean much to me considering both bg3 and cyberpunk 2077 did it to and I never went that route and ignored it but it seems like you're just a sheep who can't think on their own
Okay i hear ya, your points make sense but i still dont like the cartoony shift from the brutal massacre that origin/2 was, inquisition tuned it down but it still was pretty good, i dont want a world full of woke agenda, so i'll wait until the streamers play it and watch how it is before i can judge it properly . Pretty good video for a small youtuber ! keep it up !
Your points about art style are fair, just don’t fall for the woke dog whistling. Dragon age has always been inclusive. BioWare has always been inclusive.
@@TerranToroso why is there no blood magic then, why are there no evil choices like in DAI as a example? Why does the char creator suck so much? It's deffinitely following a woke agenda...
To all of the people dissing it for being “woke”. Wait until the game is out. How dare a different geographical region of Thedas have a different proportion of minorities lol. And the sexuality was never really an issue in previous games, many people liked Dorians character. If it shoved stuff down your throat, then you have a reason to get pissed, but please actually wait for the game to come out
Woke now and woke later. Diversity and sex naturally occurring aren't the problems; it's the activism of identity politics that's infected gaming. You're misguided.
I just think judging stuff preemptively doesn’t help anyone. I hate when stuff gets pushed down our throats, but like wtf do you mean it’s like that visually. I swear this could be better than inquisition and y’all wound play it because they used a girl with purple hair for gameplay (something that is customizable and you don’t have to do)
i mean im sorry, i dont play a fantasy rpg for characters to tell me that theyre non binary...... People can do in their private life whatever they want call themselves whatever they feel like. But i want to play a video game not deal with someone elses identity issues....
It's like that meme "In all aspects rather than physical, I am a wolf awoooooooo", but instead of a meme, people accept it as reality. It's silly isn't it?
You bought bg3 and cyberpunk and all likely played all other dragon age and bioware games so to late lol also no one believes you and well from what ea is saying y'all aren't doing squat
@@Silenthitman44 You'd trust EA's word over actual sales numbers from 2024? We have 5+ game fails this year. Bonus...we got Shadows delayed indefinitely. People reached a tipping point...NO TO ANY MORE DEI. Don't quote older games as proof.
@wiliestrogue2924 By themselves, no, that's why I actually go around multiple places, and some of y'all aren't doing as much as you think. Older games? They both just came out recently, and um, yeah, you can do that. You're only saying it can't because it partially proves you wrong and thinks that your mob speaks for everyone. Nope you are the vocal minority no one takes you seriously especially when you just go concord all the time, that game was going to be dead even if it didn't have dei and tons of people didn't even know it existed nor even cared for it. It didn't come onto my radar until y'all kept talking about it. Wait, you think that they delayed the games and are going to remove elements because of you guys, hahahhhaahaa. The dev team has been trying to get ubisoft to delay assassin's creed shadows for months now to give it more time, not because of you guys. lol, do you think they will remove all that stuff in a few months? Nope Wait, you think it's been delayed indefinitely? Lmao, no, it's coming out in February So whatever "proof" you think you have you don't sorry so sad. While I may not be the biggest fan of forced dei as along as I can control it I don't care, bioware has been for dei in games and outside of them for over 20 plus years now and well I ignored those elements in previous games will do so again
@@Silenthitman44 Facts matter. If "THEY" have to pay people millions to push a degenerate ideology...it probably isn't good...or sane. Simple logic. People are done with DEI. We are done with the degeneracy across all media. There has been so many fails this year. Society has rejected "The Message". You will never be accepted. Time for you to go away now. Bye bye.
@@Silenthitman44 Facts matter. If "THEY" have to pay people millions to push a degenerate ideology...it probably isn't good...or sane. Simple logic. People are done with DEI. We are done with the degeneracy across all media. There has been so many fails this year. Society has rejected "The Message". You will never be accepted. Time for you to go away now. Bye bye.
Well, reviews are out and...
Although the foundations for a good combat system are theere, it seems my points were undermined by a simplistic approach to enemy design, which hurt the late game (source: @SkillUp's review). Or maybe not? @LukeStephens said, in his impressions, this weakness was conditional to the warrior class and its power progression. So the combat works... most of the time?
When it comes to story, this is also hit or miss. Although it might be good on the macro level (overarching narrative, world, plot, etc.), it might not be on the micro (line by line writing, dialogue, exposition, presentation, etc.), or so says @CohhCarnage in his video.
Reviews are subjective, however, and the only consensus seems to be that there is no consensus. Although I have not played it, watching the videos listed below leads me to believe the game is, as @AsmonTV put it, "fine". Not good, not great, just fine. I leave this comment pinned for everyone who might somehow watch this, and not any reviews from bigger creators. DA:TV appears to be a bit of a mixed bag, and whether its contents fit well with you is only something you can decide. I hope this helps with that.
Referenced creators and their videos:
@SkillUp: th-cam.com/video/QF-Kd2BBpx8/w-d-xo.html
@LukeStephens: th-cam.com/video/P5BhuOVbzr4/w-d-xo.html
@CohhCarnage: th-cam.com/video/gOs-p2eHXrg/w-d-xo.html
@AsmonTV: th-cam.com/video/qVvKAZ7-gRQ/w-d-xo.html
Another one bites the dust! I'm sad for the DA fans but the sooner these trends come to an end the better it is for us gamers.
Mortismal really liked it, so there's hope. ^_^
@@SpaceMarineAna who?
@@SmallJohnGaming you should be ashamed pushing this absolute horseshit. People like you are corroding video games. "Best one yet"
@@tashalumie MortismalGaming. He does reviews for RPG games and has 350K subscribers. His reviews generally are pretty good, check him out some time.
I hope you do another one .... with an apology .... after release.
No one is saying a tonal shift is new. We're saying we dont like it. But the issues aren't just with the art direction and tone - which granted, are horrible. More issues compound this: Dummyfying combat by limiting only three active abilities (an attempt to mass effect-ify the game, no doubt). No longer letting us control our companions. Only allowing 3 imported decisions. There are just so many dumb decisions they made for this game, Ill never understand. About a year ago Bioware laid many of its senior devs (likely because they were the most expensive) so in all honesty, it makes sense this travesty is the best the leftover devs could come up with. And to top all this off, they turn around and hire hans zimmer for the composer instead of the inquisition composer Trevor Morris. Like come on, i can guarantee Hans zimmer is more expensive..
"Dummyfying combat by limiting only three active abilities" imo a game's combat isn't only about the abilities, if that's the case then Fromsoft's souls games aren't going to be as revered for its combat as they are.
tbf I NEVER controlled my companions anyway so doesn't affect me. The combat seems better to me. The story is always the primary focus in dragon age NOT gameplay, when you do think about it, many of those old choices are completely irrelevant to what's happening. if the arishok was alive he'd probably had been excecuted anyway and sten probably lost command long ago, zevran already lost his leadership of antiva in da2 cuz he's on the run again. It's giving so much more elf lore and with Ghili'nain it's gonna get so grotesque and dark.
The only thing Origins did good was the lack of restrictions on classes with duel wield warriors and armored mages. Origins combat took FOREVER. DA2 had too many damage sponges. Inquisition was fine but also the da2 problem
Semi el bueno sad summary 😐 Neon Age Vileguard in Kirby's Wonderland doesn't look so good 😬
mass effectifying the game?? guess u never played the mass effect trilogy then...
@@rayclay3249 pls dont compare dragon age or mass effect to a souls game theyr 2 different genres and yes technically ik elden ring for example is an ARPG but its also a souls like which is its own genre now. but even so not all arpgs are the same
I am not.
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Wallets closed to slop.
@@SmallJohnGaming ratioed
@@SmallJohnGaming Sorry. You are joining with the wrong crowd. Hopefully you realize what consequences this will bring.
Neither am i
There's not a single reason in this video for me to get excited for Veilguard.
and thats why this video was ratioed
Never said all three games were entirely the same, let alone tonally the same. But between the apparent lack of prior worldstate, Solas suddenly being far less intelligent than I know he is, and a sudden swap of goal from the story of stopping solas, the story I longed to see for ten years, to "oh no lets fight two elven gods, thats even cooler, right?"
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Mage spells used to be an overabundance! Now you don't even have 20% of the abilities that the mages used to have options with.. they did it with Inquisition as well. They turned the Primal tree which used to Encompass fire ice electric and earth, and spread it out until that was basically all you had. Plus a little bit of the spirit tree. You used to have primal, spirit, entropy, creation, and then the basic mage abilities. Each of those had 16 options!
In DAI, you could not even allocate attribute points! They mixed it into the already barebone ability trees...
Then, you had 7 specializations (counting Awakening) of which you could spec into 3! Granting 4 new abilities each! Including passive abilities, and sustained abilities..
What happened to skills?! Alchemy, Lockpicking, Survival, Pickpocket, Silver Tongue, etc?!
A 2nd weapon slot so your melee can swap to ranged in a bottleneck, or doorway? Gone! Choice for armor type? Gone! Want your warrior to dual wield longsword/mace/axe? Gone! Give your rogue a shield, or a full sized weapon? Nope!
This is not Dragon Age
Dragon Age Origins is not all of Dragon Age. You DAO boomers are so fucking annoying I swear.
i mostly agree but take mage for example when it comes to battle mage aka destruction mage most of them were buffs and some spells sucked and were not needed and only there to get more powerful spells and some were more uneccassary and caused alot of clutter when they could be passives and out of the way but yes hell even DA2 werent that dumbed down and that game was made within 18 months and DAI had 5 years give or take
@@BlueFire015 I didnt find much useless, but some were certainly weaker. Some were single target, and had aor counterparts.. I personally loved the toggled abilities, and the creation tree was essential. The spell combos were extremely powerful as well.. I only play on Nightmare though
@@jmmywyf4lyf really i found the lightning and fire stream the short range spells to be useless or basically the cold one was okay for freezing ppl who got close and the dlc tree well some of them were good i think there was a spell to immediately get back spells that were on cooldown which i never used cause there were soo many other spells.
either way it doesnt matter DA2 were made in 18 months and they still managed to get atleast most common ones yes ik many got cut but if they made DA2 within 18 motnhs and had enough time to make new particle effects and all of it for the spells that got included but didnt bother trying to do it with inquisition which was made with 5 years we ever see even half of DAO spell list?? personally there is no way even if bioware survives veilguard and then there is the fact of only 3 hotkeys
@@BlueFire015 Lightning drains stamina, and could be useful for melee characters, to reduce their power attacks. Cold damage was weak against some of the veil demons.. Fire as always is just pure damage.
Tempest, mixed with Blizzard, to create "Storm of the Century", and its a powerful spell combo.
Ofcourse there is some redundancy, and some spells have clear alternatives. But I liked having them. More options to class builds is never a bad thing, imo. Origins is in my top 3, all time favorite games. I replay that game every year pr so. (14 times in total so far, and 7 or 8 times for Awakening). Even the standalone dlcs I have replayed twice.
Yes, some of it was also cut in DA2.. That game was designed as an action game, and was quite divisive. I itialky, yiu had to attack for every single basic attack. It wasnt until later, after much backlash, that Bioware added the auto attack function. Theres not even a tactical combat system.. Origins was designed as a proper crpg. To this day, I still dislike DA2.. Inquisition was so bad, that it actually made me sort of appreciate da2. But I just finished it, for the 2nd time ever, and still found it unenjoyable.
I quisition didnt even offer 1/5 of the spells and abilities from Origins.. I despise Inquisition.. That game is what officially ended Bioware for me.
I have a strange love/hate relationship with Dragon Age series. DAO: didn't like the combat, but the story and characters were awesome. DA2: hate art style and less locations to discover, but i liked combat more. DAI: better art style and combat felt good and felt good to lead Inquisition, but i don't like MMO which DAI felt like.....still one of my most favorite games. Will give DAV a shot. I think it deserves it. Pronounces? Optional. Scars? Optional. Don't like some companions? Don't talk to them. (Hi Sten, Cole and Merril). Most of the hate looks "optional" 😊
THANK YOU.
Poor Cole. He gets ignored in my playthroughs too. 😅
I doubt pronouns are optional lol the "They/Them" is though.
@@RockoEstalon They are optional, you choose it.
@@McLechero I mean that you're going to have pronouns no matter what. Characters in the game won't refer to you as "It".
The veilguard UI is giving me a headache man
Ha, I see it!
@@SmallJohnGaming I can mostly be turned off. That's how I'll play.
@@sofajockeyUKit comes you when you bring up party skills. I don’t think you can turn that mobile game looking thing off
@@thatwonmagnus338 Not sure what you mean, if you bring up the pause menu then you seen them. Otherwise you can disable abilities on screen, health bars, damage numbers etc, as per the Blighted dragon video.
@@sofajockeyUK I dont like how it looks. Disabling it doesnt help me if I still need some of that info especially things like the tactical menu to order my companions to do stuff.
I don’t think any dragon age fan is or should be excited for veilguard
Eight days later and now we know that only three choices from Inquisition and Trespasser will be referenced in Veilguard. Who the Inquisitor romanced (not important), whether the Inquisition was downsized or disbanded entirely (not important, since the Inquisition isn't active anymore anyway after nine years), and whether the Inquisitor vowed to redeem Solas or stop him by any means (also not important since the Inquisitor won't be making that choice now, Rook will). And with that, the Dragon Age franchise has just self-destructed.
Except according to some leaks on Twitter, there is reason to believe they'll be going the route of ME2 and having world state option selections via dialogue in game. Which, if this is true, would be the best option for that to prevent spoilers from the very beginning.
@@Astralaeyna That's cope on Twitter. Hurt fans are speculating they'll get more options. They won't. If that were the case, BioWare would have made that clear to avoid the controversy of it. Having Rook tell Morrigan if she's a mom or not is not going to work, and would only confuse new players.
@@BelieveIt1051 I guess don't understand the problem since it's not like you are the hero of Fereldan or the Inquisitor, you are some one else so very few of the choices made while you played the previous games will matter. I accept I may be off here but I see it not like your continuing on as Commander Shepard like in ME but you are just another chapter of the goings on in the world that DA takes place in...
@@em1536 it always was like that what u on about? the difference now is that all of ur choices on previous games could be reflected on some special questst, dialoge or even items... (Like Sophia Dryden, or Nathaniel and Anders... Zevran quests on 2 and inquisition... etc) and all those years of "world building" on DA Keep are worthless now... what a great way to kill this IP.
@@bladeck99 but why would those choices matter to Rook? If there is another dragon age where they try and bring all of these different stories to a culmination then I can see the point but now we are just going to be another origin story for another protagonist. I just don't see it as the death of dragon age as so many do so I am looking forward to play in that world again.
This was a great video. It's hard to find articles from the time that DAO came out, but I remember critics saying the art style and graphics looked very dated and bland for the time. I remember others saying it all looked too much like Peter Jackson's LOTR films. The fan backlash for DA2 on release was massive. I don't think we've reached that level of angst yet with Veilguard, even though we didn't have to deal with culture ware ragegrifters back then. I HATE what they've done to darkspawn, demons and the Qunari in this iteration, but art style is not why I play these games. It never has been really.
Sadly I don't have proof, only my word, but I can tell you that back in the day the "true gamers" were saying DAO was an insult to CRPGs, dumbing down of mechanics for noobs who don't like "real" RPGs and whatever was the term for "woke" back then (I think at the time it was "virtue signalling"). So, to me is kinda funny how with the passing of the years DAO went from dumbing down RPGs to being the "good one" for certain people.
I think DA2 backlash was warranted but nowdays it's like the Dark Souls 2 of the franchise, people only talk about it to say it was underrated.
@@RockoEstalonthere will be always people who complain but overall DAO still got a 9/10 on steam and was already a great game back then. DA2 and DAI on the other hand weren't that good and the decisions they made for this games are just strange. The one heavily dungeon recycling and the other one a boring mmo copy. DAV is not gonna be different and it seems like bioware can't rlly decide for a specific direction since every game is not like the other one. They are doomed to fail with a strategy like that.
@@Gwynbl31dd DAI was the GOTY of the year it was released and has positive reviews on Steam.
@@RockoEstalon Faked Goty by EA. That buggy slob didn't deserve it for various reasons ✅ This Neon Age Vileguard looks & sounds to be worth of fifteen euros. Truly so with it's immortal companions, sliders with zero effect & left behind Qunari.
@@Fedaygin It was given a GOTY in the game awards, not sure what this "faked goty" is about. The companions are not "immortal" also, they work like the Mass Effect squad which you may like or dislike and I'm nos sure what the "Sliders with zero effect" mean.
I’m excited for this game. I like that they are focusing on narrative and after hearing a description of the relationship mechanics, I’m really excited to see how it was implemented. I’ve liked every DA game and the combat has not been the thing that draws me to any of them. So as long as I get a good story with good characters, I’m here for it. Good combat would be a bonus.
As a side note, there are a bunch of weirdos trolling around in the comment sections on any positive video. Some fellow really said “Remember what we’re fighting for.” What? “The devs don’t know what they’re doing because there is no blood magic?” (Somebody skipped some entries in the franchise, obviously.) And for some people the qunari foreheads are going to stop them from buying a game? Did they play the rest of the series only because they examined character foreheads and determined that they were satisfactory? Did the hands on any character in the series not bother you? Because they bothered me. Not enough to not play the games. Just enough for me to note that the hands look bad. There’s also the “The game isn’t gritty enough because there’s no painted on blood splatter which is a clear indicator of how mature a story is” thing. Some people think all the games should be brown. And also “Don’t preorder so we can send a clear and unambiguous message to the devs that we don’t want pansexual characters.” How effective do you think that’s going to be?
I’ve got opinions about the art style but the complaints most people are posting are just wild. And frequently stupid. And frequently bigoted.
I just saw an hour long video of a female quanari character creation if you'd like a link. You can make a really dope quanari be it male or female.
@@casongriffin6984 I would love a good video on qunari character creation. I’ll be honest, I struggle with CC in nearly every game where I have options.
the Devs are focused on propaganda, pronouns & DEI
Enjoy your esg goyslop
well how effective it is well from what ive heard its going extremely well the preorder sales are pathetic but sure whatever u say buddy
thank you for staying objective! a lot of people seem to have forgotten that dragon age has changed it's combat or character design in every game so far so the online hate is just becoming ridiculous and exhausting at this point. expecting veilguard to somehow be like origins again when the games have moved more and more towards action combat already is just asking for disappointment. personally, i replay the trilogy almost every year and am ass deep in the lore,... the action combat in veilguard is not what i wanted but im sure its probably going to be fun. i cant wait to finally play it😅✊
and how was DAO soo much purer CRPG?? ive played it as an action combat most of the time needed the overhead for some spells to land where i wanted and ofc the pause button, is it the spells and skill tree? okay fair enough relatively but thats not strict to CRPG though and a different conversation this beign said i do much prefer DA2 if only they refined that system and made it better instead of making it worse in every way ohh well
Make sure you make use of the mental illness top scars toggle, in the character creator. You planning on playing as "Bodytype A" or "Bodytype B"? Both likely have some kind of androgynous design. So just flip a coin, I guess. 🤷🏻♂ smh
THANK YOU for this. I've been needing some positivity! I love all the games, and none of the news or controversies which have come out have deterred me. The combat looks fun to me, the character creator looks good, and, as long as the characters and the story are well done, I'm ready! The only thing I was a little bummed out about was the limited world state...BUT, I'll take it if it means a tighter, more cohesive story. If the time that would have gone into writing in a reference line or codex entry goes instead into another interaction with Harding (or Manfred, for that matter) I'll accept the trade off. I also agree that the tone shift happened in Dragon Age 2. If you enjoyed 2 or 3, 4 should be enjoyable. People are saying that Veilguard has too much of a Marvel feel...forgetting the scene where Meredith jumps twenty feet into the air, starts glowing red, and then turns into a statue. As for Flemeth, she kind of looks like Scarlet Witch, haha. If Dragon Age became more "Marvel like," that ship sailed a long time ago.
I might be biased because, like you, I prefer faster combat over tactical combat, but the shift isn't surprising. There's less of a shift between Inquisition and Veilguard than there was between Origins and 2.
As for the limited choices, they could address those in DLC (there could be a whole DLC exploring what happened to the Hero of Fereldan, for example). Some might complain about their choices being behind a paywall, but, honestly, I'd rather pay $20 for a fleshed out story, and a proper pay off for my choices, than just getting a codex entry.
I never played any of the Dragon Age games for the combat.
For me it was always about the story and the adventure.
Hopefully Veilguard will have this, and hopefully I won't have to swim through mires of identity politics and wokeness to get to it.
A valid take, but don't discount the takes of people discrediting the combat. Some people loved the crpg approach the game had, especially Orgins. With BG3's release, despite the "wokeness" and identity politics infecting it, it was a great game for those who value the true to form crpg from tabletop experience, even though Larian took some unfortunate creative liberties.
The only reason Origins right now is so great, is because the other Dragon Ages after it have been subpar, with each new entry worse than the last. Whether it's story, combat or political messaging, the earlier the game, the better it used to be.
" What... they fly now "
Literally the cringy modern audience's dialog
If you're "anti-woke" then you're in the wrong fandom
@@magicfibre nah, you are just retarded.
Very interesting video.
Personally, I'm especially annoyed by the comments I often see around about Veilguard "not being Dragon Age anymore", whenever I see that, I always think to myself "when was Dragon Age... Dragon Age really?". I love every entry despite their flaws, but it always felt to me that it's a series that never found its footing unlike Mass Effect.
It's a series that's never been consistent apart from the lore. The combat system, the art direction (apart from the angular visual language that's been established in DA2), the music, etc... are always different. The only thing that's been a constant is the tactical pause. There's always been a tactical pause in one form or another and Veilguard is no exception.
Dragon Age: Origins was Dragon age. The Darkspawn weren't just scary they were horrifying from their design to what they did.. Broodmothers were easily the most disturbing thing about them and now they look goofy as hell. They were never mindless., they are driven by instinct to seek out the old gods, ancient dragons of unfathomable power that lay imprisoned beneath the Earth, in order to corrupt them into Archdemons. Oh if you want to make a lore accurate Qunari mage they should mute as the Qunari cut out the tongues of mages. This was made by people that never played the original and either ignore or retcon the previously established lore as they please. This is not Dragon Age.
To me the "DA DNA" as IGN put it has always been an interesting story, interesting characters and interesting choices (made in the game I am currently playing) that have interesting consequences. So far, everything I have seen indicates that these are very much present in Veilguard. Changing the combat system - which I see as a good thing because combat has never been a highlight in a DA game for me - does not mean that any of the things I view as "DA DNA" has to be changed.
@@rAnDomcaPiTaLs3 Recently replayed DAO and I have to agree, not a fan of the combat in pretty much any DA game and I for one I'm glad you don't get to control the other characters because I feel Bioware never really knew how to tackle tactical gameplay after they abandoned the Infinity Engine.
@@jaredfrancis5062 Darkspawn are only driven when they find an archdemon and start a blight. Otherwise they're not really organized. Also not sure what you mean with "making lore accurate Qunari mages", if you mean making your protagonist a Qunari mage, the Qunari that you can control in game are Tal Vashot, meaning those living outside the Qun. It wouldn't make sense to create Player Character a Qunari that follows the Qun regardless of them being a mage or not since they can't act freely. I doubt any Dragon Age game will let you be a Qun follower since the setting states they're bad.
Oh, and the fact that they were all party based RPGs. Which is what gave that tactical pause weight, as it gave you easier agency over your allies. In Veilguard, they are a cooldown. Yes, tactical pause exist, but your companions are just a cooldown.
Now that the reviews have dropped and certain leaked images have surfaced, it's safe to consider this the death of the franchise. Sad but true.
Awesome video! You're making great points that I'm not hearing others make regarding the Dragon Age series as a whole and Veilguard. This video is very refreshing compared to many other veilguard videos I have watched. I appreciate your balanced take.
Totally agree with this comment!
Glad to hear it lads, thanks for giving it your time!
Everything i heard, completely true lol loved your video !!! Yeah the Darkspawn looks so goofy, but overall I think the game looks fun, the mindless hate makes me sad for the ppl who work for so long in this, i just hope the story is good, I'm a long-time DA fan and i will play it regardless of what others think.
Damn, I should have used that one lol. Thanks for the positivity Blue
it is good to be skeptical, but to be hatefull towards a piece that has not even been released yet is just mindless, together with the fact that most people (not all of them) beying hatefull are not even fans of old dragon age stylle as much as just using the changes to attack the new "woke" punching bag
We are winning.
Wokeguard is the next DEI slop to lose money.
DEI = DOA
im gonna ignore the identity politics cause its politics and therefore divisive what is undeniable is that 1 three hotkeys is a joke and its a horrible thing and to blame this on action combat which some do is also annoying cause they seem to forget Bethesda have used action combat in elder scrolls morrowind and oblivion are very deep so action combat isnt inherently worse its just devs normally just doing action and being lazy and not making it deeper not the fault of the system itself just the devs, there is nothing wrong with liking crpg and to say that DAO is even a pure CRPG is also kind of a joke cause u can play that game like an action game just fine in most cases.
the artstyle okay well i would hate it less if it looked better but to me idk it jsut looks off i mean i like DA2 and that was quite cartoony in a way but still okay atleast considering the development time, veilguard have no such excuse and what they did with the qunari i mean in DA2 they looked amazing and then in 2024 we see that its not good... but uknow i do wish we seen DAI graphics jsut alot rougher and alot nicer but thats just me.
what im trying to say is what they have shown soo far, there is alot of valid negativity about the game and srsly u are gonna defend these ppl that made it soo only 3 goddamn thing is taken from previous games and none of them include who is on the throne of orlais or who is on the throne of ferelden and who is on the throne of orzammar and who is the new divine and what happened with branca how can u or anyone defend theyr decisions for not working harder to make it so my decisions from previous game matters?? BECAUSE IT DOES.. and one of the 3 goddamn thing is who u slept with i mean srsly dont get me wrong that is bad cause they havent accounted for any other important thing otherwise it would be a nice little personal touch i mean how morrigan talks about the warden in inquisition is heartwarming considering what she used to be like but in this its just....
@BlueFire015 yep, I was replaying all 3 thinking how cool it would be to the consequences of my choices and their payoff... now I'm just sad
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, we better have fun playing other games while waiting for the reviews and see if it will be at least fun to play or just a pass
DEI = DOA
It's not politics.
DEI kills creativity by pushing agenda over good story, good gameplay, good artwork, and good hiring.
Shouldn't the best ideas, artwork and employees be picked?
It's why we're closing our wallets to ANYTHING DEI.
@@wiliestrogue2924 DEI is political okay always have been? Forst of all vonsider tye money ultimately comes from blackrock anf vanguard im sure u heard of them one lf the leaders of US and then there is the facr ITS IN EVERYTHING from media to military to goddamn a normal shopping store
Great video. I am very excited, and I completely welcome the game play changes because I love the way the combat looks
it is super action but with still some tactical elements to it as well. The art style has changed between every game and does not really bother me at all. I play Dragon age for the lore and stories, so I am very excited to have Solas story continued. i am playing it day 1 because i waited 10 years and cannot wait to be back in the Dragon Age Lore and World.
I "Mourned" Dragon Age Origins long ago. For two or three years I was a bitter asshole lol, but after I tried DA2 and Inquisition and enjoyed them for what they were. Part of me is still pissed off at how everything that was hinted at in the Awakening DLC of Origins was thrown out the window in the sequel and how it happened again with the "Mage Rebellion" that starts at the end of DA2 getting solved in the first quest of Inquisition like it's nobody's business. I'm happy that at least Veilguard stops fucking around and is a genuine sequel to what was set up on Tresspaser.
What I think has hurt Dragon Age the most is not having a real interconecting plot. Mass Effect is as messy as Dragon Age, every sequel has the reapers do whatever because they wanted to make the games more like Gears of Wars or because the fans guessed the ending like it happened with Lost, but you had the same Shepard in the three games and all companions that were alive returned even if you could not control them. Meanwhile on Dragon Age I have to endure the protagonist from the first game being in a "secret quest" because they are scared of making them come back (and also because some idiots decide to let them die).
I'm playing Veilguard all day on its release. I've been waiting 10 years for a new Dragon Age game and everything I've heard and seen about Veilguard is awesome. The linear level design, combat that looks like a mix of Dragon Age and Mass Effect action, and a larger focus on companions and choices. Also the hair physics and character creator really looks incredible. Thank you for making an optimistic and cheerful video in anticipation for this game!
No problem, Revan. Thanks for watching! Also, love the profile pic.
Honestly this reminds me a lot of back when Call of Duty Infinite Warfare was announced and pretty much the entire internet decided it was awful game months before it launched. Without seeing any gameplay hating it just off the fact that it was another Sci-Fi Call of Duty which nobody wanted at the time, especially not the COD fanbase. Now sure people are entitled to feel how they feel but so many videos and comments I've seen the last few months basically proclaiming that DA The Veilguard as a terrible game before the vast majority of people have even had a chance to sit down and play it. This seems to have really become a thing the last few years were people will denounce a game after having only seen a cinematic trailer if the art style isn't to their liking or something. Granted the reason people do that is as gamer's we have been put through a lot of BS these last few years, but I think it's left a lot of people jaded. I mean at least play a game for a while before saying it's a failure. Besides I think most people don't realize what a trainwreck this game's development has been, pretty sure they started work on it shortly after wrapping up work on Trespasser, during which time there have been multiple versions of Dragon Age 4 including one that was a live service multiplayer game which thankfully got scraped after Anthem was a huge failure. Pretty sure EA wanted Bioware to make all their games (Dragon Age and Mass Effect) live service. So now we have The Veilguard which even if it isn't to everyone's tastes, it's single player, it's a story-focused, choice-based RPG, they got rid of pointless MMO-open world aspect that honestly made playing Inquisition a chore most of the time. People should also remember Bioware's history, sure they're aren't a lot of choices carried over from Inquisition but that happened with the Mass Effect games as well. I think most Dragon Age fans need to realize how much worse this game could have turned out than the one we are getting.
i agree so much. nice breakdown. i think the marketing of the game cause of some CEO or whatever was really bad. the game itself looks promising tho and makes many things much better than the old games. still hoped we would get a dragon age game which just is origings in better graphics and with bigger more immersive maps. but you might be right that this will never happen - for dragon age at least... the only things which bothers me are the sparkling interface, the too overloaded hud during gameplay and the too weak companions during fights. i hope we can adjust things here when the game comes out.
Thanks, man! I wouldn't worry about the hud or interface. Either mods or BioWare's own patches will take care of it, I'm sure. As for companions, this being a much more action focused entry, I would place my hopes in build synergy, primers and detonators to make the team feel powerful. No way to tell without a personal, hands-on experience or a trusted reviewer's feedback, though.
I am as excited for Veilguard as having a cockroach walk on my face while i am sleeping.
Didn’t realize you were such a big fan of cockroaches
in some cultures thats considered lucky
thats an insult to cockroaches
that happened to me.. crawled on my mouth...one incher...
its not a dragon age game, neon knight confirmed its a god of war 2018 with a tone of guardians of the galaxy thats extremely liner. its a skinsuit GoW wearing a cartoonish DA skin
Okay, this video has given me hope for the game.
You're the first who really analyze the game as it is, a new game. We love a lot old Dragon Age games but doesn't mean we can't enjoy a new game. Great video!
Very much this
yep, a "new game", not dragon age...
Consume, consume and don't be an aware consumer, JUST CONSUME. Love it. It's all positivity and politics injection, we should be happy about it. OMG, so much fun! (that was sarcastic btw)
BioWare changing the style of the game with every sequel isn’t as good if a positive as you think it is. That is precisely why I’m not excited for DAVG. Whether it’s tone, combat or art direction. To me this says the game has no identity ESPECIALLY when it had a great, grim and gritty feel with DAO. Was there the occasional joke? Yes. No one is disputing this. But everything felt.. for lack of a better word.. fucked. And I loved it. No hame has captured me quite like that. Warhammer(its lore) is kinda the same but cranked to 16 and breaks the knob off. I’m just going to wait from reviews and see what it looks like when people stream it before considering to buy it. Right now it’s giving me no reason to go in on it.
There’s stuff I’m looking forward to seeing, stuff I’m concerned about. The Qunari forehead is a huge point of contention for me, it looks like cosplay done wrong.
With that being said, I will preorder it. I’ve seen enough to make up my mind. It’s understandable why others may not want to even play the game, though.
It's weird to me that the most I've seen people say they won't play the game because of the qnari. Is that really it? That's the deal breaker?
@@Rell.from.hideout That’s only part of it. Some people adamantly love Origins and no other DA game can live up to it.
Then there are people who just want to see the game, BioWare and EA burn. There are several reasons why.
And finally? Some people can’t get past the art style. As long as kelts fun with great replay value, I don’t mind the art so much. But that’s just me.
I'm looking forward to Veilguard. Storytelling is something I really enjoy. Combat looks different, and I'm alright with it, I really hope they succeed with this project
Awesome video! I am really excited for the game, and seeing more videos being fair to the franchise is nice.
bah sheep bah
Hoo Boy, here we are.
The hate is coming from people who have short memories. Dragon Age has reinvented itself with every iteration, including art style. It has ALWAYS had terrible marketing. It's tradition at this point. It's always been shocking, always been divisive.
Dragon Age also has an amazing story, lush world lore, and fun gameplay. I am beyond excited and I'm happy to see someone else excited about it. I feel like every time a game comes out a very *particular* crowd gathers around it to throw tomatoes, no matter what game it is. It makes me wonder what games these gamers actually play. I've seen people complain about stuff like the female body proportions arent unrealistic enough to very reasonable critiques about the party size. But really, most of the critique is the former type of nonsense. Realistic skepticism is great for games. Catastrophizing is pointless.
Ha! Remember Origins using that 30 Seconds to Mars song for their trailer? Good times.
Love the last 2 lines, btw. "Realistic skepticism is great for games. Catastrophizing is pointless." Thanks for watching Sam!
Yet they failed to make a good iteration. They lost the ip identity each time. DAO was a love letter to CRPG. DA2 was a button masher, DAI was a whanna be mmo. DAV seems it is generic fantasy game made for the moden audance.
Not sure I have seen anyone complay that bodies aren't "unrealistic", only that body sliders are very limited and don't allow for a lot of body diversity. They have some, but not much. There's not even a muscle slider, only body shape which is different from actual muscles.
@@EcardEcardian Origins' gameplay style never 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥 the IP. It was left behind 13 years ago. For better or worse is up to interpretation but every game tries something new and that's not a bad thing. Like it or not, action games are more popular now. The sales numbers prove that. Bioware isn't obligated to go back to the old style just because a loud minority wants it. Besides, what really defines the IP is the story, characters and world. That's why most people play Dragon Age not the gameplay.
@@TerranToro That is due to EA buying Bioware and all talent left. Action games was the thing at the time, so they went after trends insted of I do not know, leting the ip be this good CRPG it was. That they try something new each time means they do not know the ip. They do not know what makes the ip tick. There has only been downgrades in the ip sense DAO, DA2 was downgraded game compared to DAO, looking at Mass Effect 2 did the same, DA lost its idenity due to they try something new each time, new people making the games. The story, characters, dialog has taken a nosedive after DAO.
I'm looking forward to this one
Bioware did a poor job marketing this game initially. That first trailers tone was completely off. I am definitely excited for it now after more information has come out though.
this video hit it right on the mark...this is awesome...I myself am going to play veilguard for the story and the lore, the combat may be a try to innovate an action tactical combat but it is very dangerous to do so since Bioware might have this game as their saving grace since previous games the last few years were failure...Skill tree looks good, progression in terms of being able to upgrade items seems interesting...the only thing i think that people are not happy about hence them bashing the game, is how EA and Bioware had been marketing this...they market this not for its story, not for its new concepts for progression or combat tactics, they market this as woke, they market this as inclusive, they market this targeting "modern audiences" with all their mentions of "pansexual companions" "first ever openly non binary companion" "they them as pronoun" in the game...many people are sick of this agenda and they are afraid that this political agenda will be shoved down their throat and they used the game to push for it more...i myself am afraid of that, but i will still buy and play the game...i am seeing the good points you discussed in this video, and you actually discussed it the way I see it too
In my head, "pansexual companions" actually meant: "You can sleep with whoever you want! Yay! No more worrying about your companions' real sexualities, lol! See? Like BG3, we can be inclusive AND horny too! Yaaaaay!" Or something like that.
Anyways, thanks for taking the time man. Let's hope it's better than we think.
Nah. You should wait for reviews at least. Wallets closed to this slop. This isn't the same DEV company we remember. All the OG's are gone. Help send a message that we will no longer tolerate DEI garbage.
I'm excited for dragon age veilguard I don't give a fuck About what anybody else thinks about it💯💯💯💯
Exactly , the Rook we create the story we make , the choices , will be incredible…. So much hate based on speculation… il all in
And here I thought the modern audience didn't exist! This is a rare sighting indeed!
That's the proper way for a half blind consumer to live 😬
This is only Dragon Age in name only, nothing else. Its an insult to every Dragon Age fan.
I hope the modern audience will buy it because i wont. Everyone who has played the game says its a god of war + Guardians of the galaxy game clone...This is not Dragon Age
Lol I love the cheeky dead space in the background for funny and wholesome and Stardew in the background for grim and dark tones 😂
I was so waiting for this comment lol. Thanks for noticing Danni
It's refreshing to see valid criticism with actually logical arguments over pure "Hate" for upcoming Dragon Age. So far "no open world" (which means better pacing for narrative and at the very least much less collectibles and redundant fetch quests) is a music to my ears and action combat showcase seemed cool and deep enaugh with different builds, synergies and ability to reassign ability points without the need to respec. My only concern is that "wokeness" is really strong in this one, but so far it is evident only in characters (appearances and backstories). If it won't effect the story in a negative/retarded way then I suppose we can make our peace with black/asian elves 😅. But damn I'm getting tired of uglification of women characters and other crap we have to deal with in games these days.
someone actually said no open world and was angry??? hahahhaha bioware has proven they cannot do open world better stick with linear maps
Yup. Combat looks great. More depth. I am excited about that. And I really hope the story is great. I am a story guy. Love a good story. I do not care if characters have big boobs or small boobs. Big butt or small butt. I am not playing these games to simp over characters. I am all in for combat and story.
People can comment how they want on everything, including my comment here. We live in a world where we have free speech, but first and foremost, I am a gamer. Mechanics and story are the most important things for me..
Good video. I'm getting more excited for this game now. But I won't pre-order. Waiting for a patch or two first.
Haha, thanks man! And good call. Preordering is a risky thing these days.
Ill give it a go when it releases thanks for the vid SJG
More to the point, the game looks cartoony and why. Also no blood magic feels preachy. It’s clear the devs have no clue what they’re doing.
We haven't had blood magic since DA2 (and even then it had no bearing in story). Same with abominations (spirit healers).
Hell even origin didn't mention your character being a blood mage or abomination.
And don't get me started about party members (like Alistair)/your character being a lyrium addict (templar).
No blood magic feels "preachy"? What?
FYI they actually may bring blood magic back but it will be very different and will change the game in a lot of ways and it would be it's own class IF it comes back
@@Comandate7 The difference is that we are in Tevinter, blood magic central. It makes way more sense that the class should be available.
Origns did bring up the blood magic/apostate thing but it was handwaved as the wardens having the right of conscription.
Neither Alistar or the PC was a lyrium addict. Alistar didnt become a full templar so he didn't do rites. He even mused that lyrium was just being used by the Chantry to control templars (which was sorta confirmed with Cassandra's revelations in Inquisition). And the PC just learned some tricks from Ali or read a skill book to get templar skills. Your arguements don't even make sense.
Inquisition: the grind
I agree with some takes, and I can't entirely agree with others, overall a great video.
The best way to go by this game is to wait for actual good reviews from reputable sources, if it`s something you like, go buy and have fun, if you enjoy but don`t want to spend the full price, wait for a discount, I`m sure it won`t take long for a 30% off, if the pre-orders numbers are correct, this game will lose money in its initial release phase.
That should be our go to for every game purchase, honestly. Thanks for saying it man
who cares bro its 60 bucks
hope bethesda left enough space in the coffin to fit bioware in
I'll hard pass the more I see the worse it looks.
Same.
Funny, looks better the more I see
Wah wah wah origins wah wah wah back in my day
@@souran1321 Nope just looks like shit, awful art style, boring combat and ugly arse bobblehead characters.
To many games coming to waste on total shit like this.
@@souran1321 So, your smooth-brained argument is what? That companies now make bad games and that's that? 😂 Are you kidding me?🤣
I am with you on this, I am looking forward to this one. I got mine pre-ordered. I don't get all the hate for this either but fine if folks don't like it just don't buy it. I have no doubt I will do this just like the others and play every combo you can.
Thank you for your positivity
Thank you for yours
Lol, no. Dragon Age Veilguard can't even get size of characters heads right.
saw your profile pic and lost my shit
Yeah, no, this game is very much spit in the face of dragon age fans.
I am excited to create a non-binary character/characthem with surgical scars and appropriate pronouns.
I feel like the hate is mostly due to the culture wars in America because of their upcoming election... its a shame though because the game doesn't deserve this hate just because of one country's politics, especially since most of us excited for the game are from other countries.
Thank you for this breath of fresh air opinion.
The game is overhated for all the wrong reasons that it's hard to distinguish genuine opinions from political ones.
The world doesn’t revolve around elections between a loon and corporate speaking head, plenty of players from Central Europe and other regions mock the ugly Marvel vibes of supposedly dark fantasy game
@@VerminaeSupremacy Understandable, but most of the hate comes from American grifters currently.
Not saying your opinion is not valid though.
@@ninisdilemma look, I am Russian liberal and I hate that my taxes go to thing I cannot name before I depart the cuntry forever or to Lauren Chen and Tim Pool and Truck of clown sons. American rightoid narratives are the thing our arch lich in Kremlin imported here 20 years ago and let fester via state bankrolled propaganda with known geopolitical results. But your leftie bs is just off the charts insane to anyone living outside Anglosphere. We legit are just laughing at insane unrelateable lazy slop coming from Hollywood and BBC and game dev we used to worship. It’s just the self-obsessed post colonial English-speaking cluster dump that does not react to anything but Chinese bans on content because I suppose people earning 200-700-1000$/month are not relevant enough for you around the world despite buying games once in a quarter, I guess. Who needs to learn a second language with actual genders living in a hegemony and actually study the world, right? Hurt durr, can always invent nu-genders for your bored teens and step on the one of two things that made English world’s lingua franca, it’s relative simplicity. I depart with disgusted Cassandra noises and you are free to worded why the world mocks self-absorbed Americans so much
@@ninisdilemma So you like politics in game? Instead of quality mechanics? Instead of attention to detail? Instead of interesting dialogues, stories and characters? Instead of discovering a cool lore and being surprised by sudden change of plot? You are in luck. This will be an amazing politically injected slop. From dark and doom and fun world of Dragon Age, to this nice and pink and politically correct and pronoun using shit fest. You should watch the gameplay without commentary. It's out there. Go and see how the quality of dialogues and characters. It's plain as day. Culture wars are here whether you like it or not. Some people think it's a great idea to inject our beloved IPs with them to the brim. I think it's horrendous and they should f*** right off. There is no space for this in gaming industry.
A little irrelevant, but DAV's graphics are going to age much better than previous entries because of the stylized art direction. I'll never understand the vitriol toward it.
holly shilla
Finally, someone making some good and valid points.
I love Dragon Age for the stories, and characters and can appreciate each game as its own thing. I love the lore of the world as it's grown. Honestly, I'm really looking forward to Veilguard. The trick is to ignore literally everyone having a good cry about it. The Devs will never please everyone.
dragon age the veilguard is woke trash especially when they are pushing LGBTQ+ propaganda, Pronouns & DEI in the faces of real gamers who just want to have fun & the 25 years of playing games myself I've never seen it this bad, plus all of the decisions that you made in the previous games are irrelevant
@@terrywoodford2935 Okay, Terry. You do you 👍🏻
@@lindsayshields-tumilty4824 Do you like DEI in games
well being an avid fan of origins and Da2 I'm still not sold on this game i think the character artstyle is the biggest problem for me. Ithought the elves in inquisition looked really bad but this direction worse! I'm not excited to ply a character that looks like this. On a posisitive note i think the combat looks tactical and interesting....better than Inquision anyhow. Great video!
Thanks for watching, man. As for the race designs, I'd say: Origins - best elves. DA2 - best qunary. I hope this one has a character creator robust enough to let you make a protagonist you are excited to play as. If not, there's a ton of great games out there. Cheers!
I have genuine hope for the quality of the game as I believe they will have done anything and everything to make this into a masterpiece. The alternative is that Bioware will be dissolved if this isn't going to hit. The slow-minded already condemn it and use that empty term "woke". Give them a fair last chance, please. And if it turns out all character development and drives revolve around the companion's preferences only, all criticism will be fair.
Agreed! I’m hoping it does well. If it doesn’t? We can all get together on TH-cam and laugh at it later!
But for Heaven’s sake, please stop using the term ‘woke’…! It really is an empty term, If you have valid points and concerns then fine, just explain where you’re coming from!
Maybe don't call people slow minded and beg them to support the lame things you like in the same sentance.
@@Cheff-oc4wu I do mean people who call trans people mentally ill. There is a myriad of things I could call that hateful bunch, but slow-minded seemed the most fair to me.
Also, I'm not really begging anyone to like it. Just give it a fair chance.
@@Cheff-oc4wu Transphobes and bigots are slow minded. Why you got a problem with OP calling those people out, hmm? You one of them?
I gave them a chance and from everything they showed so far art style is not my type, enemy design is bad, characters design are, while not bad, forgetable, gameplay is mediocre, animations are bad, dialogue is bad, CC is limited, Rook has forced "pure as snow" morality and only 3 choices are imported. I was about to play this game only for the sake of closure but since no old choices matter (or get mentioned) it would seem like continuing their story instead of mine (especially bad since they bring back old characters like Morrigan and Varric).
From what I've seen I like the new combat in Veilguard. Like Mass Effect Andromeda the combat is probably going to be the highlight of the game for me. I also like the new art style. Grim Dark isn't the only way to do fantasy, and this looks like something I wouldn't mind playing with my niece around when I'm babysitting, on a no romance run of course, no spicy scenes with little eyes around. Fantasy CRPG's flood the landscape, for me there aren't enough western action rpg's out there. Don't get me wrong, Baldur's Gate 3, Divinity Original Sin 1&2, Pillars of Eternity 1&2, and Tyranny are all great games, but sometimes you just want some faster moving combat that isn't a shooter.
I'll give it a year before i get it, give it time to get full reviews, let bioware finish/fix it through patches, and hopefully modders will have mods to put in better looking models for darkspawn, have normal sized heads etc. Might eventually end up a good game so I'll look forward to it.
Solid plan imo.
I doubt there will be such mod. Neither DA2 nor Inquisition got a mod to overhaul the darkspawn.
@@RockoEstalon maybe not, in those games they did change the look but they kept them realistic, these ones look like they take 5 seconds to fall after stepping off a cliff, and leave a dust cloud behind.
Great video
I do not trust BioWare to make a game like we want. I trust them though make a game that investors wanted back in 2016 when this game was probably greenlit. And because of that, I'm out.
You are right, i SHOULD, but for certain that i am NOT.
I don't want this game, not even if they pay me to play it. I only want it when they reboot all the characters and character characterization and remove this DEIVIL agenda from the game.
That was my main gripe with Inquisition, not very much armor and weapon variety at alllllllll. Then they did that black emporium DLC and it also added fuck all.
No. I am not excited, especially after credible leaks have shown up and it's looking like a disaster. This game isn't going to get a dime off me lmao.
wtf happened to dread wolf
Shiting on the predecessors isn't going to make this turd any shinier
Preach.
"Positivity towards the Veilguard is bad you should only criticize it!" also you: "But, you can't say anything bad about the previous games!" Hypocrite.
@@Ammy-q4w You aren't smart. He hasn't said anything hypocritical here - it's just that you don't understand English or just project your own weird mentality.
this game flopped and it isn't even out yet.
*edit* well I tried; sucks your entire conclusion is subjective opinion but it is your video - you're allowed to have it, lol. Just no facts, no objective truths to support this being a good game. (or even, not a bad one!) EA though, not sure what people were expecting - every franchise they've ever owned has crashed and burned or is in the process of doing so.
I don't mind the change in art style. It is just childish, and the whole game feels that way. It is physically impossible for me to listen to the dialog between Harding and Bellara. It's the voice acting, i feel like a am a fucking baby in my little cradle with the finger in my mouth, listening to a fairytale. None of the companions feel interesting to me. Why are they pushing Harding so hard? That gnome who were there to just introduce you to a new location in Inquisition. I would rather see more mature and established as a character Sera. No, they had to go with the lamest option.
But i probably just need to take a shower.
Great video, and you make a great point, the only thing I have been hearing from Fans all over the internet is "This is not Dragon Age", and I am here thinking, none of the Dragon age games are the same, NONE, all of them are unique in their own ways.
I for one, am excited to play this game and based on what I have seen, I am pretty sure I will enjoy it, and if so-called "true" fans say is trash and they won't even buy it, well I am sorry, but go cry a river somewhere else, cause I know what I am gonna be doing Halloween afternoon after work and I know I am going to have a really nice experience.
Wen i saw the Qnari, it was all for me
The Qunari that's lil left behind yes 🙃 Immortal Companions, sliders to have zero effect in character creation screen. This one to look & sound like it's worth of fifteen euros 😵💫
@@Fedaygin true, but it does not matter, 1 bad product is only that.
To be fair the main complains just boil to it aint origins. Not to even downplay it, its just literally all the creators that complain about it just only bring up origins. Even a creator did a video complaining about veilguard titled origins vs the world.
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I do want to make clear Bioware 1000% fucked up just advertising the game. Ppl actually talking about and saying how its a lot better than what was introduced just says leagues on how marketing wasnt sure on how to advertise it. They really wanted to showcase the combat cuz thats something new also to hopefully bring in some new eyes, still messed up with that. Then when it came to what DA as an IP is known for which is the story and dialogue they just completely butchered. These newer videos of ppl that had hands on with the game is doing keagues in putting things into perspective than what they have done unfortunatley. I dont even care bout DA as a franchise m mainly care for ME, and for me at least veilguard has caught my eye from what ppl are saying. Mainly cuz of dialogue and actions. Playing Inquisition rn got origins to at least see what those fans are talking about and sadly due to the latest update it crashes once i open it. I will get to it after i beat inquisition and veilguard.
Fans get a game after 10 years
Fans hate it "Before the reviews are out"
No game for another 10 years
Fans: 😮
I am a big fan of the dragon age series. I love the lore. I love dark fantasy RPG’s. My favorite game is Witcher 3, but dragon age origins is probably #5 on favorite games list. I have played all 3 DA games and expansions. I liked all of them but they all had flaws as well. But the story was the biggest thing for me. I am also a straight male, married with kids. There has been LGBT characters in all the games but they never really through it in your face. My hope is that they don’t do it now either. I don’t care if there are gay people in the game because they are in real life. However the graphics here for the characters do look a bit kiddie. Also would it kill them to make some good looking women in this game. Neve is ok looking but the others look hideous. Especially sense they keep making a big deal about romance in this game. Can they just pay some straight guy like $5,000 for 2 hours to go in and make a hot chic character model?? Also the “3 choices” that was leaked is not good. I think it would have been ok if they would have made it 50 years or so in the future and not happen right after Trespasser, but because they did it should have more of your choices from the other 3 games.
fightings looks like amalur:reckoning meets AC valhalla. Don't get me wrong as long as it's fun i'm in. My concern are for plot and story, for example all origin stories looks veeeery similar - your action contains freeing some poor folks, pissing off some menagment, and fleeing because now someone wants your head.
But we wait until is released and than we can argue.
BTW that's first video where someone says some good things about Veilguard
You are missing one key point. The center of a good story, are the characters. And their design suck. And not only their design, but also the players design suck. This whole woke movement just hates good looking people. I was already bummed out in DAO with Sera and Isabella. But this time they really go for the ugly trend.
Isabella? You mean DA2 Isabella?
corpo shill
Desasturation is not good design, it's a skill issue. Color is not the enemy, it creates more interesting visual storytelling. Visual Realism is boring and makes games look the same. Cartoonish visuals are not all for kids, they create a unique visual signature. Realistic styles age really badly in comparison to chartoonish styles. If you don't understand, Halo was considered Realistic when it originally came out. The people who blindly hate this game, spouting off false or bad faith arguments need to go touch grass. I takes so much energy to hate for hatred's sake. If the game happens to be good and but you've convinced yourself it'll be bad, you'll likely still have a bad experience.
I'll admit I didn’t like the style at first and I agree with the head size, but I all so think the fan 'fix' makes them too small. I liked the first add with the fun character intros. It was nice to see the characters feel so happy and alive... because I'm a monster that enjoys seeing happy characters have to face dark realities as it makes for a more interesting set of tone shifts. Characters that are already sad/grumpy who face darkness are boring, *cough* Kratos, and/or annoying edge lords. The style grew on me with the game play showcases and I got excited. You don’t have to like or be excited for the game, but unless you've played it, you cant say definitively what the game is or isn't.
Veilguard 🤣
The combat actually matters to me very little. The art style, while I don't like it, is something I could overcome. My worry is I can feel a tone shift I don't like (based on a feeling, so not facts admittedly) and when I heard about this "everyone's pansexual" thing I felt some soul seep out of the game. I never cared how inclusive or not it was, but I LOVED the stories of the characters around me like Dorian being multifaceted and complicated and having their sexuality and character something that was part of them and the story told. I liked the twists and turns in emotion and story through the characters and MY choice and how it interacted with them. I see Veilguard and feel that not only slipping, but possibly being ripped from the series in what, let's face it, is probably the end of it.
I just won't bring myself to buy it, which as a fan since origins will be hard. I will watch reviews of the actual game and think about buying it next year.
I BEG everyone not to preorder it. Let's at least try to kill the marketing corporate machine that neuters and spits on IP fanbases. Now THAT'S the real dark a gritty storyline.
With so many reviews now from youtubers who played 7 hours (including sceptical youtubers like Luke Stevens,which was a shocker), I think I've seen enough to buy it on release. I really want to play this, and the points that are bothering people (totally understand) aren't bothering me. I'm all about the writing. And the writers here are talented vets from old BG/DA/ME days.
@@RandomWandrer That's fair, but I just don't trust Bioware to buy it on a tailored 7 hour experience. I don't think I can trust the story and writing until I see a review of the actual full game, which I why I'm going to try to wait.
That said, I'm watching character creation vids, into the faction choice addition, and may buckle. But if it isn't good I will be upset lol, as long as we aren't preordering.
As a bi man, I do not need every bi characters story to be about them being bi. These characters just happen to all be bi/pan. Doesn't affect me. I have a life. If the only thing you're bothered about is the pansexuality of their characters, you need to go OUTSIDE.
@@professorwright1428 I'm not bothered that there ARE pan characters. I'm worried that slapping the same sexuality on all of them indicates a laziness in the story telling. Sexuality is a part of someone, and just making everyone pan tells me they just wanted to have same dialogue to apply and not to have to flesh out interesting storylines like the Dorian storyline in Inquisition. That storyline was touching to me, had tons of specific lines to the situation, and also resonated with me as a gay man like not many or any stories had in games. So by all means have pan characters. But don't tell me making every single character pan so no matter who your character is they all react the same in every playthrough isn't just laziness with a fake pan acceptance label crudely slapped across it.
@@squicker I was even willing to buy it as a long time fan willing to try anyway, then saw that SO many choices from before don't matter. My Divine doesn't matter? Who lived in even just Inquisition doesn't matter? If I romanced Dorian who should be in the new setting because he said he would and THAT doesnt matter? We know Morrigan is in the game, but if she romanced the Grey Warden or had a kid doesn't matter!?!? Streamlining some, sure. But the Morrigan and Dorian info from even the last game not mattering is actually disgusting to me. I went from a maybe to a FIRM not buying until there's a sale.
IF at all. Totally furious at the devs.
It is a great video and some points I understand its good to have different views and opinion even if i personally don't agree with them
DA will never be like before and personally, I don't think I will enjoy it becource as a DAO player I am likely not the target audience
DA even constant shifting got worse over the years and even if I enjoyed DAI everything i see about DAV shows me they creat a dark spawn an abomination manny will not like
I hear you. @NeverKnowsBest has a nice retrospective you might enjoy watching (if you have 3 hours to spare). Thanks for taking the time with my video man
I’m more excited to see it launch and fail. As someone who 100% achievement Dragon Age Origins and did over 8 playthroughs of that game. I just want The Veilguard to fail. This isn’t my Dragon Age anymore, it’s some woke activists hijacking. When I can’t make my hot attractive waifuu character in character creation that is where I draw the line. I want this game to fail so bad. I hope BioWare shuts down. I don’t want a new Mass Effect game anymore. Just shut down the studio already EA. The devs that made BioWare great are long gone. Quality has deteriorated. RIP Dragon Age IP.
soooooo fkn cornball omg 😭😭😭😭 how u played dragon age and calling this woke. u dont even know what woke means omfg get a life
Op
In a post to Blue Sky, Gaider wrote, “Apparently the usual suspects are upset at how ‘woke’ the new Dragon Age is, an apparently sudden and unexpected development in the series.”
He added, “F***ing tourists.”
As long as I worked at BioWare, there was always a portion of the fanbase who wanted whatever we were doing to be more like the LAST thing. With NWN, it was BG2. With DAO, it was NWN. With DA2, it was DAO… and so on, always with bitterness.
I'm not sure where you decided I said one cannot find things in DATV to criticize. I'm simply saying that, if your criticism is that it's "suddenly gone woke", like this isn't consistent with everything in the series before it, you're an idiot. Then again, "woke" seems to expand its meaning daily.
That's what he thinks of you an idiot and tourist because it's always been like that, and them having more OPTIONAL OPTIONS doesn't mean much to me considering both bg3 and cyberpunk 2077 did it to and I never went that route and ignored it but it seems like you're just a sheep who can't think on their own
Okay i hear ya, your points make sense but i still dont like the cartoony shift from the brutal massacre that origin/2 was, inquisition tuned it down but it still was pretty good, i dont want a world full of woke agenda, so i'll wait until the streamers play it and watch how it is before i can judge it properly . Pretty good video for a small youtuber ! keep it up !
I'd say that's the best way to go about it. Thank you for your time man!
Your points about art style are fair, just don’t fall for the woke dog whistling. Dragon age has always been inclusive. BioWare has always been inclusive.
Woke agenda? Are you sure you've played a Dragon Age game before?
Is the "woke agenda" in the room with us right now?
@@TerranToroso why is there no blood magic then, why are there no evil choices like in DAI as a example? Why does the char creator suck so much? It's deffinitely following a woke agenda...
To all of the people dissing it for being “woke”. Wait until the game is out. How dare a different geographical region of Thedas have a different proportion of minorities lol. And the sexuality was never really an issue in previous games, many people liked Dorians character. If it shoved stuff down your throat, then you have a reason to get pissed, but please actually wait for the game to come out
Woke now and woke later. Diversity and sex naturally occurring aren't the problems; it's the activism of identity politics that's infected gaming. You're misguided.
Bold to discuss identity politics before the game has even come out
@sethmayse9652 why? It's dripping with it visually. The game might as well be the embodiment of a purple haired, lesbian feminist.
I just think judging stuff preemptively doesn’t help anyone. I hate when stuff gets pushed down our throats, but like wtf do you mean it’s like that visually. I swear this could be better than inquisition and y’all wound play it because they used a girl with purple hair for gameplay (something that is customizable and you don’t have to do)
@@Cheff-oc4wu The entire franchise has been "woke" go find something else to complain about.
Origins is good. The series as a whole is pretty mid.
It's sad to see how a guy being fair and optimistic is being downvoted.
No thx. 🎉
I'll pick it up when it's free or on a heavy sale sometime in the future. Maybe they'll have added the nipple scar shape that I want by then 🤔
i mean im sorry, i dont play a fantasy rpg for characters to tell me that theyre non binary......
People can do in their private life whatever they want call themselves whatever they feel like.
But i want to play a video game not deal with someone elses identity issues....
It's like that meme "In all aspects rather than physical, I am a wolf awoooooooo", but instead of a meme, people accept it as reality. It's silly isn't it?
{sorry but no. The tone is all over the place. All DA games where dark fantasy this looks like peak millenial irony garbage
sales leak, their worst than StarWars Outlaw, the fcking Modern Audience really stuck at buying games
DEI has met the impossible Final Boss...GAMERS.
We no longer buy slop.
DEI = DOA
You bought bg3 and cyberpunk and all likely played all other dragon age and bioware games so to late lol also no one believes you and well from what ea is saying y'all aren't doing squat
@@Silenthitman44 You'd trust EA's word over actual sales numbers from 2024? We have 5+ game fails this year. Bonus...we got Shadows delayed indefinitely. People reached a tipping point...NO TO ANY MORE DEI. Don't quote older games as proof.
@wiliestrogue2924
By themselves, no, that's why I actually go around multiple places, and some of y'all aren't doing as much as you think.
Older games? They both just came out recently, and um, yeah, you can do that. You're only saying it can't because it partially proves you wrong and thinks that your mob speaks for everyone.
Nope you are the vocal minority no one takes you seriously especially when you just go concord all the time, that game was going to be dead even if it didn't have dei and tons of people didn't even know it existed nor even cared for it. It didn't come onto my radar until y'all kept talking about it.
Wait, you think that they delayed the games and are going to remove elements because of you guys, hahahhhaahaa.
The dev team has been trying to get ubisoft to delay assassin's creed shadows for months now to give it more time, not because of you guys. lol, do you think they will remove all that stuff in a few months? Nope
Wait, you think it's been delayed indefinitely? Lmao, no, it's coming out in February
So whatever "proof" you think you have you don't sorry so sad.
While I may not be the biggest fan of forced dei as along as I can control it I don't care, bioware has been for dei in games and outside of them for over 20 plus years now and well I ignored those elements in previous games will do so again
@@Silenthitman44 Facts matter. If "THEY" have to pay people millions to push a degenerate ideology...it probably isn't good...or sane. Simple logic.
People are done with DEI. We are done with the degeneracy across all media. There has been so many fails this year.
Society has rejected "The Message". You will never be accepted. Time for you to go away now. Bye bye.
@@Silenthitman44 Facts matter. If "THEY" have to pay people millions to push a degenerate ideology...it probably isn't good...or sane. Simple logic.
People are done with DEI. We are done with the degeneracy across all media. There has been so many fails this year.
Society has rejected "The Message". You will never be accepted. Time for you to go away now. Bye bye.
This ain't it, chief.