Pro setup tips: 1. Move the heater to the floor (heat rises, use it to your advantage) 2.get a 10 to 20 foot copper pipe to use as your exhaust run it a couple feet away from the wall, THEN outside, the heat exchangers on these things suck! most of your heat is going out your current exhaust pipe setup. 3. Put a very low speed fan blowing along the copper exhaust pipe.
There is a guy on youtube who has one of these and he is running the exhaust through a cast iron radiator and then outside, he is capturing all that exhaust heat through the radiator and then it goes outside, i might give it a try next winter.
Yeah that would work, especially if a guy was to rig up a little computer fan or something to blow over the exchanger to maximize it. I got mine mostly for camping but with the thought of using for supplemental heat for garage too so IDK if I would go through all that.
Put a small fan in front of the heat duct and set it to low. your not moving air in stock form from that 3 inch tube. I use a ryobi fan. Do not run that 8KW on high for too long or your gonna get a overheat error. Run mine 24/7 and zero issues working out in the garage. Wrap your exhaust pipe with exhaust insulation tape. Use cement board between your studs for added fire safety.
Great vid, very honest which I like - I recon this would heat my garage fine, about 1.5 car size but man that clicking sound, if that's all the time - I could not get away with that, would drive me made
2 of these is the best. And before when i only had 1 i boosted the room with a propane cannon to get the temperature up and then the heater would do the job rest of the day. And also, having the cap on the end of the warm air hose is really holding back air and that makes the heater warm so it slows down and the total air moved wont be so much than having it all wide open. I on the intake where the fan is removed the gitter in front. But what really made everything awesome was having 2. They stay at the same place,and just are awesome. But you need to have something under to raise it for sure. And that smell was just the heater being run in. They dont smell anything. But you smelled your garage about to burn down lol.
yeah they need to include either some sort of elbow that's low profile or make the standoffs taller. For now I just put a piece of sheet metal down under it as a heat shield
I have 2 of these in my workshop that is about size a double garage and a little more. Heats it from 2-3 Celsius to 18 celcius in about 35minutes. I have the remotes by my bed. I drink my coffee and then go into the shop.
It puts out great heat I’m sure it would do what I had hoped with 2 of them, or 1 of them in a 1 car without such a high ceiling that I have. I ran it a few times with my existing heater and it got warm way faster and was able to maintain 65 degrees once it was warm
I had the same experience. The only difference is my unit is mounted outside, with insulated ducts for cold and hot air being pumped in/out of garage. Even warming up the entire garage with a propane torpedo heater, the diesel heater couldn't keep the garage a decent temperature.
Mine worked pretty decent to maintain the temp after I warmed it up with both. I mostly bought it for camping, this was just a test to see if it would do it
8kw is about 27,300 btu/hour. That is input not output. Output is 27,300 X efficiency of the heater. If exhaust is ~250 degrees probably around 70-80% efficient. 27,300 X .75 = 20,500 btu output.
You can choose to do it wrong if you want to but there’s a reason why basically every heat system ever does this and I explained it in the video. Walk downstairs and look at your furnace, it sends the combustion intake outside also. It’s not the intake for the air blowing across the heater.
These are not 8kw - actual output is only 4kw. Having said that they are brilliant value. I run 3 of them on kerosene. One has over 5000 hours of use and still going strong.
@@FlawedOffroad @FlawedOffroad Kerosene is much cheaper than diesel in the UK due to our taxes. Without the tax they work out the same here. Kerosene is cleaner burning but has a slightly lower heat output. Not much difference really.
I’m not sure if maybe mine wasn’t up to snuff, but the label on the side said it would do 20A. It kept on dropping as soon as the unit used any current. Comp power supplies might be more sensitive to inrush than say a Meanwell LRS-350-12
What like those stand up ones? Lacking floor space. I got this thing for camping and decided to experiment with seeing how it would do in the garage. It’s not a huge deal that it wasn’t enough cause it was just a test. and it’s working quite nicely combined with the existing heater.
You're supposed to crack a window 1/4" when you run a ventless heater. You're starving it of air and creating carbon monoxide. You'd be surprised how well they burn when given air.
I've got enough fresh air inlets in there to equal more than a 1/4" cracked window. No seals on garage door theres between 1/8 and 1/4 all the way around the door most places anyway. doesnt change that when you kick up dust they burn orange and make fumes
8kw is only 2.7btu. You'd need like 10 of those to cone close to your ventless. If you really want to eliminate your wall heater get a used gas furnace.
I got the thing for camping, I just wanted to see how it would do since I’ve seen some other videos on TH-cam of people saying it worked, I was skeptical from the get-go for that big of a space
My neighbors propane wall unit (looks same) turns orange after it heats up. I dont like it because of the moisture. Heck im almost in a subtropical forest in southern Appalacia. Moss and lichen and black mold sees lots of opportunity here.😀 Line level ✔. Also, here's how your heater was made: th-cam.com/video/nKURE05_RPI/w-d-xo.html
Well Canadians are the closest to me and the ones most likely to be watching my channel that use c, sorry you felt left out lol. And sorry you don’t use the superior measuring system😅🦅🦅 all that said it was meant to be a joke
@@FlawedOffroad Haaah It's all the same at -40. Diesel heaters are only about 70% efficient. I have 3 of them and only use them for tent camping and in the van. It would cost you a fortune in diesel and 10 of those heaters to get your garage to room temp if it's below freezing outside.
Good thing I didnt get the thing with heating the garage in mind. I got it for camping and decided to run a garage test for science lol. That and I heard someone at work talking about getting one to heat garage. I was a doubter from the beginning. I do believe it would eventually get it heated.@@fedorp4713
@@FlawedOffroad I use a 45,000 BTU propane heater (which is about 4.5X the output of a diesel heater) in an insulated 24x32 garage and the temp only goes up by 5 degrees after an hour. Those diesel heaters are designed for small spaces like cars and trucks, not garages. Realistically a double car garage would need a 80,000-100,000 BTU heater.
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Pro setup tips:
1. Move the heater to the floor (heat rises, use it to your advantage)
2.get a 10 to 20 foot copper pipe to use as your exhaust run it a couple feet away from the wall, THEN outside, the heat exchangers on these things suck! most of your heat is going out your current exhaust pipe setup.
3. Put a very low speed fan blowing along the copper exhaust pipe.
There is a guy on youtube who has one of these and he is running the exhaust through a cast iron radiator and then outside, he is capturing all that exhaust heat through the radiator and then it goes outside, i might give it a try next winter.
Yeah that would work, especially if a guy was to rig up a little computer fan or something to blow over the exchanger to maximize it. I got mine mostly for camping but with the thought of using for supplemental heat for garage too so IDK if I would go through all that.
The “Out of Context Comments” were hilarious! 🤣👍
That clip went on forever and I had to delete most of it but then I noticed the theme so I went with it lol
Put a small fan in front of the heat duct and set it to low. your not moving air in stock form from that 3 inch tube. I use a ryobi fan. Do not run that 8KW on high for too long or your gonna get a overheat error. Run mine 24/7 and zero issues working out in the garage. Wrap your exhaust pipe with exhaust insulation tape. Use cement board between your studs for added fire safety.
Great vid, very honest which I like - I recon this would heat my garage fine, about 1.5 car size but man that clicking sound, if that's all the time - I could not get away with that, would drive me made
Yeah its all the time. I saw another video on my feed, I did not watch it, but it was someone that found a quiet/silent fuel pump to retrofit
use a torpedo heater running kero to get the temps up, then run the vevor to maintain.
2 of these is the best. And before when i only had 1 i boosted the room with a propane cannon to get the temperature up and then the heater would do the job rest of the day. And also, having the cap on the end of the warm air hose is really holding back air and that makes the heater warm so it slows down and the total air moved wont be so much than having it all wide open. I on the intake where the fan is removed the gitter in front. But what really made everything awesome was having 2. They stay at the same place,and just are awesome. But you need to have something under to raise it for sure. And that smell was just the heater being run in. They dont smell anything. But you smelled your garage about to burn down lol.
yeah they need to include either some sort of elbow that's low profile or make the standoffs taller. For now I just put a piece of sheet metal down under it as a heat shield
I run 2 in my container shop which is ~650 square feet. R10 on the walls, R3 on the ceiling, complete thermal break.
I have 2 of these in my workshop that is about size a double garage and a little more. Heats it from 2-3 Celsius to 18 celcius in about 35minutes. I have the remotes by my bed. I drink my coffee and then go into the shop.
It puts out great heat I’m sure it would do what I had hoped with 2 of them, or 1 of them in a 1 car without such a high ceiling that I have. I ran it a few times with my existing heater and it got warm way faster and was able to maintain 65 degrees once it was warm
I had the same experience. The only difference is my unit is mounted outside, with insulated ducts for cold and hot air being pumped in/out of garage. Even warming up the entire garage with a propane torpedo heater, the diesel heater couldn't keep the garage a decent temperature.
Mine worked pretty decent to maintain the temp after I warmed it up with both. I mostly bought it for camping, this was just a test to see if it would do it
Id drink a beer with this guy and solve woke issues
8kw is about 27,300 btu/hour. That is input not output. Output is 27,300 X efficiency of the heater. If exhaust is ~250 degrees probably around 70-80% efficient. 27,300 X .75 = 20,500 btu output.
How do you prime that heater with that specific controler?
@@walleyeye don’t recall. Pretty sure it self primes when powered on
can you build wall brace outside and put it outside with intake and output in the gargage.
you could but I think it would be much less efficient(heat loss)
Nice install but you really didn't need to run your intake outside next to exhaust
You can choose to do it wrong if you want to but there’s a reason why basically every heat system ever does this and I explained it in the video. Walk downstairs and look at your furnace, it sends the combustion intake outside also. It’s not the intake for the air blowing across the heater.
I have the same problem as you with the propane heat in my shop when I’m making dust. The headache I get from it is pretty nasty.
Sometimes I run a box fan with an air filter tape to the back next to where I’m grinding to catch most of the dust
These are not 8kw - actual output is only 4kw. Having said that they are brilliant value. I run 3 of them on kerosene. One has over 5000 hours of use and still going strong.
around here kerosene is stupid expensive compared to diesel. does it burn longer or what reason are you using it?
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@FlawedOffroad
Kerosene is much cheaper than diesel in the UK due to our taxes. Without the tax they work out the same here. Kerosene is cleaner burning but has a slightly lower heat output. Not much difference really.
A desktop computer power supply puts out 12v on some of the outputs and 5v on others.... Just so you know
Suppose I have a few old legacy psu's laying in a tote somewhere, I used to build pcs for people
I’m not sure if maybe mine wasn’t up to snuff, but the label on the side said it would do 20A. It kept on dropping as soon as the unit used any current.
Comp power supplies might be more sensitive to inrush than say a Meanwell LRS-350-12
Have you ever tried a patio heater? Just an idea…
What like those stand up ones? Lacking floor space. I got this thing for camping and decided to experiment with seeing how it would do in the garage. It’s not a huge deal that it wasn’t enough cause it was just a test. and it’s working quite nicely combined with the existing heater.
You're supposed to crack a window 1/4" when you run a ventless heater. You're starving it of air and creating carbon monoxide. You'd be surprised how well they burn when given air.
I've got enough fresh air inlets in there to equal more than a 1/4" cracked window. No seals on garage door theres between 1/8 and 1/4 all the way around the door most places anyway. doesnt change that when you kick up dust they burn orange and make fumes
8kw is only 2.7btu. You'd need like 10 of those to cone close to your ventless. If you really want to eliminate your wall heater get a used gas furnace.
I got the thing for camping, I just wanted to see how it would do since I’ve seen some other videos on TH-cam of people saying it worked, I was skeptical from the get-go for that big of a space
These are actually only 4kw - still brilliant value though.
Maybe good for heating a tent??
This thing will burn you out of a tent it puts out quite a bit of heat. This was just an experiment
I can almost smell the oil in your garage... 😀
@@norrisheckwine7439 not sure if that’s a compliment or an insult but you’re not wrong lol.
My neighbors propane wall unit (looks same) turns orange after it heats up. I dont like it because of the moisture. Heck im almost in a subtropical forest in southern Appalacia. Moss and lichen and black mold sees lots of opportunity here.😀 Line level ✔. Also, here's how your heater was made: th-cam.com/video/nKURE05_RPI/w-d-xo.html
When it comes to F vs C. It's not fore those in Canada.... It's for those in the rest of the world. Have a think about that...
Well Canadians are the closest to me and the ones most likely to be watching my channel that use c, sorry you felt left out lol. And sorry you don’t use the superior measuring system😅🦅🦅 all that said it was meant to be a joke
@@FlawedOffroad Haaah It's all the same at -40. Diesel heaters are only about 70% efficient. I have 3 of them and only use them for tent camping and in the van. It would cost you a fortune in diesel and 10 of those heaters to get your garage to room temp if it's below freezing outside.
Good thing I didnt get the thing with heating the garage in mind. I got it for camping and decided to run a garage test for science lol. That and I heard someone at work talking about getting one to heat garage. I was a doubter from the beginning. I do believe it would eventually get it heated.@@fedorp4713
@@FlawedOffroad I use a 45,000 BTU propane heater (which is about 4.5X the output of a diesel heater) in an insulated 24x32 garage and the temp only goes up by 5 degrees after an hour. Those diesel heaters are designed for small spaces like cars and trucks, not garages. Realistically a double car garage would need a 80,000-100,000 BTU heater.
Wow. 5% off. Generous..
Better than 0? Wasn’t meant to be a sales pitch, I just asked vevor if they had a coupon