freddy can fly (throttle and pitch curves)

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  • how to use throttle and pitch curves and understand them.
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  • @foolish-wanderer
    @foolish-wanderer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Freddy your a champion, from sim training to first build your info has been GOLD, clear precise accurate, the best out there. Thank You brother..

  • @michaelwright6751
    @michaelwright6751 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Freddy, this is a great explanation of the throttle /pitch curve, and it helps understand exactly what the engine does when pitch is increased. Very well done.

  • @clubmyndset
    @clubmyndset 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Freddy You built my first heli an Align 500 and I now own a 450 DFC another 500 conversion from FB to DFC FBL 2 blade 130's one stock and one with more aluminum on it than I want to talk about. Point being YOU have answered all my questions over the past year or so. and I'm still very addicted to the hobby thanks to you and your willingness to share your knowledge. Without it I may have just given up. Thank you Freddy. You "ARE THE MAN"

  • @evariste1686
    @evariste1686 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks so much Freddie. You're a natural teacher, in all your videos. This is the only explanation i've come across that explains the reasons for the values, how to fly the heli for a given curve, and the real, practical consequences of changing them.

  • @markparsons5677
    @markparsons5677 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wanted to compliment and also to thank you for the clear and helpful content of your videos. These are some of the most interesting and certainly some of the better quality instructional videos I have used to help my progression with this hobby. Although I am new to this hobby and ascending in years you have explained very well the dynamics of flight and the important concepts of setting up and balancing the throttle & pitch. I think for any new flyer this understanding is important.

  • @MrTurnone
    @MrTurnone 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for taking the time to do this, really well done. One of the best explanations of pitch vs head speed I have seen

  • @marcusnaismith5566
    @marcusnaismith5566 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks Freddy. Down here in New Zealand , enjoying all of your helpful video's.
    Flying a 450 align pro fly bar and a Gaui Hurricane 500.Built an Align 550e flb
    under your guidance. Nearly in the air with 550. Any day
    Thanks Boss keep that camera rolling

  • @brandonstill7229
    @brandonstill7229 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again Freddy, great video. Many can fly but few are also great teachers. Great Job. Keep um coming.

  • @WillSr70
    @WillSr70 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've watched a lot of videos on this subject and they were talking go technical.The way u did it was perfect,I understood perfectly,thank u so much.Ill surely be watching and learning as much as I can from you.

  • @stevefox3763
    @stevefox3763 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what he says about pitch drag vs motor load is absolutely correct, i just want to add that any time you change to a different type of blades these values will change very slightly as every design of blades varys slightly in the amount of lift vs drag they exibit

  • @edcammarata6430
    @edcammarata6430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Fred, that was good for me
    I'm just a beginner,can hover move a bit, but by no means good. Right
    Now I'm at 86.5% on thrudle at mid
    Stick and about 6 % pitch at mid stick. Full throttle 96.5%
    I think I will lower my throttle to 80% at mid stick as u suggest
    I'm flying a old ion 2, 700mm
    I love your videos they been very helpfull to me,thank a bunch !!

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the kind words and all of the support. Fly safe buddy :)

  • @dylantaylor608
    @dylantaylor608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you bud, always just left those alone. But I've crashed my electric 450 and now have tail drift when changing head speed in normal mode. I watched your video on gyro and this one. I should be able to figure it out now. Thank you very much

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, there is a lot more up to date information on this topic. If you need any help shoot me a message buddy

  • @9jamesde
    @9jamesde 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, thank you, learned something new, got to understand what chasing the tail is and have always done wrong when setting the travel limit, never thougt of it locks when not giving a little return in both ends, thank you very much :)

  • @Adrenalin4x4
    @Adrenalin4x4 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video..i'm learning to fly my blade 450 3d coming from fixed pitch and wanted to ask you what a good throttle and pitch setup would be to hover around to learn nose in and all that

  • @dale8026
    @dale8026 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please keep doing your videos. Im a new beginner. I have what looks like a Hirobo 30 (no name anywhere) and a Trex 600. I am learning a lot off your videos. Wish you lived in UK so you could come help. lol

  • @1701_FyldeFlyer
    @1701_FyldeFlyer 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Freddy. This is the best and clearest explanation for pitch & throttle curves I've ever seen. Really good. I take it the throttle curve works just as good for electric as a nitro motor?

  • @bwinn10
    @bwinn10 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    man i know not much about heli's of this size ive only flown micro and medium size dual axis helicopters all put together but i want to get into it a little more maybe a small build like a trex 250 maybe a spectrum remote but these vid's are helping me understand things a lot better thanks for all the info

  • @33forsaken
    @33forsaken  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes your radio has two extra points for fine tuning. just follow the 5 point setups and use the extras as fine tuniing points. remember its called a curve so make sure it make a nice curve

  • @halleffect1
    @halleffect1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Freddy, thanks so much for taking your time to share your knowledge with us.
    Don't pay any attention to the simple minded idiots posting derogatory comments about you.

  • @tukayyid74
    @tukayyid74 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Freddy really helpfull your videos. Just did. my 3GX setup with your videos.

  • @JoseFPVNavarro
    @JoseFPVNavarro 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video! Keep up the good work! Very helpful. Thanks.

  • @33forsaken
    @33forsaken  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for your comment i will be putting the advanced normal mode up soon thanks for standing by

  • @stephaniemacnamara2011
    @stephaniemacnamara2011 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi i like to setup the pitch curves low -6 ,mid +2, high +10 that is for the oeks that like to hover and switch to idle 1 in hover if u are hovering in normal at mid witch is +5 and u switch to idle 1 the heli will drop when u switch to idle 1 because idle 1 mid is 0.

  • @scrc511
    @scrc511 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Freddy, I'm a little new with Futaba 8fg super. I have a trex 450 Pro Flybard version with futaba Gy401 Gyro, what's the best throttle curves & pitch curves can you suggest? I don't do hard 3d, mainly for sport flying for now but also mild 3d enough for the helicopter to be a little responsive on a flip & inverted flights. Your videos are great, but for someone like me to be on the safe side a given values would be real helpful. Thank you so much in advance.

  • @rmiklosh
    @rmiklosh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Freddy. I got a question. I know, a receiver has initializing modes (beeps) and for the motor there is HIGH (fast response), MIDDLE and LOW. As for a beginner, which one would you recomend to have better control, for lets say, curves you sugested?

  • @kanyon161
    @kanyon161 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video but i have a question.
    Is this an overall guide to picth an trottlecurve? Can i use the same priciples on my hk 450 as well as on my hk 500? Or is this guide only for a specifik size.
    Thanks

  • @garydsouza2335
    @garydsouza2335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are good mate, you have explained that perfect, keep it up dont stop the advice

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks so much buddy :)

  • @numex106
    @numex106 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nicholas5674 that's is partly true but it is still okay if you have it at 0 degrees because as the blades revs slow down it will come down no matter what :) you will need wind in excess of 200mph to not get the heli down :)

  • @mytube2415
    @mytube2415 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    HEY THANKS 4 SHARING UR KNOWLEDGE TO DA PUBLIC I'M LEARNING.
    KEEP UP GOOD JOB.

  • @rcwizzzz
    @rcwizzzz 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    running the new align 650 motor on my 600, i can barly keep it hovoring at full throttle. i have gone though the mechanical and radio setup changing it repeatedly to get it rite. i cant seem to get enough head speed even at 95% throttle. maybe a bigger pinion idk. a vid on that motor setup would be awsome. i havent been able to find much info on it.

  • @lw216316
    @lw216316 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My throttle cure screen shows a total of 7 points but only lets me set 1-5.
    How can I set the other 2 - so that I have a 7 point throttle curve ?
    my throttle stick stops 1/4 inch from top and 1/4 inch from bottom.
    When I try to set up throttle curve it only lets me set 5 of the 7 possible positions.
    Do I need to adjust the throttle stick to have full range of motion to fix this?
    If so, how do I make that adjustment ?
    I have a DX6E - thanks

  • @michaeldunner2980
    @michaeldunner2980 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I havea walkera 450 flybarless 450 heli with a devo transmitter. I fly it in my den but when I try to land soft it seems to drop real hard. can you tell me what settings on my trans I need to set it on thankyoy

  • @RecreationAutomotiveGarage
    @RecreationAutomotiveGarage 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    is that goes from all size heli?

  • @tomstclair3390
    @tomstclair3390 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Fready, Great video very helpful. When will you do your next video showing how to set pitch 0 +5 +10. i think i understand. ?How does it affect swashplate throw? Thank you.

  • @briansmobile1
    @briansmobile1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's also indicative of being "sick" as in "your tick-tocks are SICK bro!" ie. BA-SICK or even Bay-Sick. NOT to be confused with sea sick, motion sickness, or nausea.

  • @simonunsworth8210
    @simonunsworth8210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Freddy..... Very helpful video thank you so much - very well presented 😀

  • @Nish78pu
    @Nish78pu 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Freddy did you made your programming video for this? I couldn't find it.

  • @jhunmonaco
    @jhunmonaco 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello sorry if i disturb you.. i just saw today your video about Throttle Curve and Picth Curve..can ask you a question or i need your help because l'm new on this Radio.my Radio Futaba 10 CG 2.4ghz.. so can you teach me what Normal throttle Curve and Normal Pitch Curve. my Radio is from 1 up to 7 not only 5 so Can you tell me. just reply me if you have time thanks

  • @Tabasconate1
    @Tabasconate1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    USO when ever you do pitch curves the tx should be at mid stick? I'm a newB and I have no idea about pitch curves and how it relates to throttle curve at all, no idea on how to realy understand it all spin can set up my new heli to fly right with it. Don't understand how every one else got to the understanding of it.

  • @davidlowe392
    @davidlowe392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your time, very informative indeed.

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @JustinKoenigSilica
    @JustinKoenigSilica 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you say what throttle and pitch curves ARE?

  • @garydsouza2335
    @garydsouza2335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when you say plus 5 at mid stick do i still set everything as per manual zero @ mid stick then adjust the pitch on the radio..to plus 5 at mid stick, then at top end and bottom end..

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes this was for older systems. On todays systems you want zero at center stick. and your full collective ranges at top and bottom. example. -12 low stick, 0 at center, and +12 at full or just a linear curve is what most FBL systems call for.

  • @scaleernie
    @scaleernie 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Freddy! Great Video (as usual) :) ! I have a TT Raptor 30 V1 with a V2 all metal head. It has OS 37 motor. Can you recommend a good pitch AND throttle curve? I like a medium pepped heli. This is my first nitro. I've been flying 450's and 500's and i like them flying with a little pep to get me out of trouble if needed. Thanks for any info you have.

    • @raptorpome2577
      @raptorpome2577 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello
      I don't know if you still have the raptor 30 but please see the link to a good Web site I have used it many times for my raptor 50 helicopters
      raptortechnique.com/raptor1config.htm
      All the best Ian

  • @33forsaken
    @33forsaken  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    on nitro you should be using a gov... if that the case you use rpms and still a v curve to fall back on

  • @livinstunn6151
    @livinstunn6151 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks man really appreciate it... very helpful!

  • @user-js5xq7ip5y
    @user-js5xq7ip5y 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alot of guys are telling me.i want -9 0 +9 on the pitch curve, is that too low for a 450x ? Also what would the matching throttle curve would be at to match ? Thanks !!!!

  • @lgOptimusv
    @lgOptimusv 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    So of im a begginer 0 to +10 will be from not off the ground to air i can have all trhottel but at 0" it will not leave the ground correct can u help i wanna learn but need a better understanding on what a begginer needs to have programed in the remote and what all of them things do i know a lil

  • @1975antoniosantos
    @1975antoniosantos 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    tanks,,big hellp you give my,,now its easy tho my setup my trex 500,,great job man

  • @StrikerFin
    @StrikerFin 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive learned that, when in normal mode with sick to 0 you may wanna have a little negative pitch. y, what if you have strong winds, you wont be able to come down.

  • @emiliogarcia4103
    @emiliogarcia4103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for this! where is iddle 1 video? doy you hace a link? i cant find it

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey buddy this is a little out of date now a days most systems have GOV and flat throttles. But if you ever need any help or info feel free to shoot me a message on FB

  • @MultiRacer19
    @MultiRacer19 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Basick" flight :)

  • @josemariacalebgarciayamin5250
    @josemariacalebgarciayamin5250 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buenos videos amigo Freddy.

  • @33forsaken
    @33forsaken  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you view my 3gx setup video 3 you can see how the pitch it setup using a tool and your radio

  • @shadav21
    @shadav21 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    HOW MUCH DO U CHARGE TO BUILD A TREX 700?

  • @richiebricker
    @richiebricker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a K110 and the yaw is way too sensitive in the middle where any throttle change also drastically affects the yaw. I cant find anyone to help me with this except that guy that wants to sell me his setup book. All the TH-cam reviewers said its so easy to fly, NOT MINE. My Volition V950 is easy to fly, maybe ill fix the antennae and stop worrying about 3D flight. Can ya give me any help?

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey buddy shoot me a message on FB messenger and we can talk :) maybe I can try to help

  • @sirlancair
    @sirlancair 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    super beginner here so first, Thank you for posting this explanation. I was wondering how the pitch curve begins at throttle setting of zero along the X axis, but the curve of the pitch is zero along the Y axis...mid way up, and not beginning at the same point as the throttle. .but, then I realized..i think, that there should probably be a horizontal line at the 0 pitch delineating positve and negative pitch .. is this correct? Or possibly the curve could begin at zero ON the X axis, and progress in the negative direction.. Im confused

  • @maxwellmorris
    @maxwellmorris 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am learning Quad flight on a 400 size & find the best throttle curve for learning is 0%--- 40%---45%-----50%----55%----80% lift off is around 40% power between 45 & 55% a gentle rise and fall with the ability to hover with ease, for a quick rise I go up to 60 to 70% at 80% it will just be gone up in the clouds. Weight is 1.2 kilo motors A2212/15 930kv with 10"X 4.5" Props.

    • @xboxice2005
      @xboxice2005 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah i just got into it and im thinking off adding a bit more pitch on low speed for take off and landing.

  • @Deortisable
    @Deortisable 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely explained

  • @PerryCodes
    @PerryCodes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ha... I'm BASICKLY lmfao right now.

  • @TheBeastFPV
    @TheBeastFPV 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks this will help alot need 2 do a flybar videos how 2

  • @briansmobile1
    @briansmobile1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you add the "k" to basic it reiterates that the level is SO simple and conceptually sound that even spelling isn't critical...... you're welcome!

    • @daltonalfonso534
      @daltonalfonso534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i realize it is kind of off topic but does anyone know a good website to watch newly released series online ?

    • @sethboden6657
      @sethboden6657 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dalton Alfonso i use FlixZone. Just google for it =)

    • @cruztimothy8637
      @cruztimothy8637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Seth Boden Yup, I've been watching on Flixzone for years myself :D

    • @wellsleland4933
      @wellsleland4933 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Seth Boden Thanks, I went there and it seems to work :) Appreciate it !!

    • @greyesteban7381
      @greyesteban7381 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dalton Alfonso you are welcome :D

  • @bucklee2945
    @bucklee2945 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    ah for pitch I would set -10, -5, 0, 5, and 10 respectively. afterall we like 3d yes?

  • @stevefox3763
    @stevefox3763 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone help solve a problem I have with a 450 please.
    Its a flybarred 450 and its massively unstable in just hover, just the tiny corrections needed for hovering causes the heli to have sudden and aggressive bursts of lift the instant even the slightest stick input is given!
    It's driving me nuts and I really want to get it flying properly.
    Thanks, Steve.

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Steve, can you comment or IM me more info. Maybe I can help trouble shoot the issue. Maybe even do a test hover video so I can see. usually in a fly barred Heli, I would assume unbalanced blades or fly bar paddles. possible bent fly bar or head parts. In same cases it could be glitchy servos or bad CG, or even just need a different RPM setting ( the possibility go on forever lol). Feel free to shoot me some info and I would be happy to try and help brother :)

    • @stevefox3763
      @stevefox3763 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@33forsaken I'm starting to move to the mechanical setup being the cause as you suggested, I have just setup a flybarless 450 running a kbar and it's suffering the same behaviour but in a much more mild form.
      I wonder if cheap servos could be aggravating it too, they have a small amount of play in them, not a problem on my fixed wing craft but they are allowing approx 1mm of play in the swash.
      One thing that may be of diagnostic use is that the busts of lift are far more aggressive with forward or back pitch cyclic, roll cyclic produces almost none but is still there to a small degree.
      What I find surprising is that with the exhaustive googleing and searching youtube, I can't find a single case of someone suffering the same issue yet I now have two helis doing it, others must have made the same still un diagnosed errors I've made?
      If the weather improves over the next few days (horrendous here at the moment) I'll try and get a clip of the flybared 450 misbehaving.
      Thanks for offering to help, I appreciate it.
      Steve.

  • @garydsouza2335
    @garydsouza2335 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats you thought..trex 660N.. THR 0,70 80,90,100...Then pitch to match is 0 ,45 70,80,100..this gives me 70% pitch gives me 5 degree at mid stick.. dose this look ok to you normal mode... DX9 flybarred 600n le

  • @joefinney8431
    @joefinney8431 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great informations but my TX goes from 0-100 scale. This -12 and +12 doesn't seem logical as it wouldnt add much of a curve. Can anyone please elaborate on the differences if any??
    Thanks in advance!

    • @Jaburu
      @Jaburu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      0-100 is percent, while -12 -to 12 refers to degrees

    • @joefinney8431
      @joefinney8431 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +capoeiraES thanks

  • @brianbb177
    @brianbb177 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    good ideas thanks

  • @slinkytreekreeper
    @slinkytreekreeper 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get your point but his facts are good. Dyslexic does not mean incompetent.

  • @bayeswan9922
    @bayeswan9922 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    freddy thank you are helpful.

  • @jonhdon188
    @jonhdon188 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi freddy . i use futaba 14sg i dont understand what is 0 +5+10.. can you help?

    • @FelipeUgarteH
      @FelipeUgarteH 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      The degrees of the main blades

  • @audiotech6513
    @audiotech6513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Freddy does this matter on a fixed pitch heli...because you cannot adjust the pitch anyway

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly this is an old out of date concept I need to remove. Most models these days have GOV that require flat curves and no V shapes. But yes this would still apply for the older fixed pitch.

  • @josepenate7367
    @josepenate7367 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow,thanks a million.

  • @samre3006
    @samre3006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At zero I once made a mistake and chose Neutral pitch and got into deep shit. The helicopter would not come done to the altitude I wanted and ended up into a tree.

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awww man sorry to hear, this has changed a lot over the last few years with FBL systems.

  • @nathansealey6270
    @nathansealey6270 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @33forsaken
    @33forsaken  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    for more help feel free to call or tex me at 801-654-2803
    thanks freddy

  • @88Ermax
    @88Ermax 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why u has a k in basic?

  • @WillSr70
    @WillSr70 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I meant to technical(ooops).

  • @saqibmian2010
    @saqibmian2010 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awsome vid u spelled basic...wrong...

  • @lorencarpenter3881
    @lorencarpenter3881 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No big deal but there is no "k" in basic.

    • @richiebricker
      @richiebricker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But a Kapitol K in Krazy

  • @rmiklosh
    @rmiklosh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here is a better video on Mi 24, how swash plate works th-cam.com/video/XoOXWxBRQIg/w-d-xo.html

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you look this video was made a very long time ago. I have much more up to date information on this topic

  • @33forsaken
    @33forsaken  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the idea
    if u want some help feel free to call or tex me at 801-654-2803

  • @erichiles9568
    @erichiles9568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have numbers

    • @33forsaken
      @33forsaken  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Eric, this one is a little out of date. If you need some more updated help on this topic feel free to message me or face book me :) I am happy to help.

  • @33forsaken
    @33forsaken  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    i feel your pain my friend......please if you would like more help and a better explanation
    feel free to call or tex me at
    801-654-2803

  • @freakindividual
    @freakindividual 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    nice vid but plz stop making chewing noises between sentences

    • @mopar_shawn939
      @mopar_shawn939 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      freakindividual lol lemon jolly rancher

  • @33forsaken
    @33forsaken  12 ปีที่แล้ว

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