I’m around 80-90% into the high budget league version and I’m having more fun mapping than I think I ever have. It feels so nice entering a map knowing the impact MF makes. Can’t thank you enough for your time and effort. Looking forward to migrating this bad boy to standard and continuing the quest! Peace and Love
the irony of it all is that you need so much currency to builkd an mf that its not by any means new player friendly i aint spending 2000 hours building smth that will last 1 month this is absurd ! gratz for the vid tho detailed and comprehensive
Well, when it comes to League play you don't really need to mirror that many items, at most Bow and Quiver, you can self craft a body armour very easily. You can make 1 mirror so fast by just playing the game with a Party, big groups do that all the time. If you want to migrate your League build to Standard it's better, because then MF becomes a long term project. I personally spent about 40 mirrors on my standard build in total, over the span of 2 years. What I did was starting with a character worth about 2-3 mirrors, then mirror the next item when I actually gained 1 mirror, which didn't require much time really, about 1 week playing 3-4 hours per day. It should be mentioned though that I obtained my build back before 3.13, when you could easily obtain multiple headhunter drops per day while playing MF. I also got 3 pure Mirror drops in Standard over the years, but I never played that many hours per day. Emcii and Kaoms Heart, other 2 standard player got 8 mirror drops and 11m mirror drops in Standard over the years, because they played much more than me. I am telling you this not because I want to flex, but simply because you have to understand how MFing can make you mirrors, and many of them if you play for long.
For the divination distillate, one could "skip" the planning and the petrified blood by getting the Master Surgeon forbidden jewels which, from this league, grant the enduring effect on all life flasks (flask effect is not removed at full life, flask effect does not queue). Hybrid flasks apparently count as life flasks too (but dont't count as mana flasks for some reason)
I love the fact that you can hear him slapping away on the keyboard yet nothing is being activated by it. I call this fake aF. And majority of the build is just a standard MF Windripper build. Even the highend version is.
The keyboard strikes are my flasks. I alwasy spam them to keep the alchemist genious bonus always active, and because i am used to the old flask piano meta. The builds were tested in Standard but with absolutely NO legacy gear, using the exact items of the path of building for temp league that I showcase for both low budget and high budget.
Hi, thanks for the builds! I have a quick question, in the spreadsheet there is a build named "3.2 - MF FARMER - MEDIUM BUDGET (Standard + League)" I might be wrong but i think this builds Pob is wrong one. For example in Pob there are forbidden flesh and flame but in the guide those jewels are placed in another build etc. And there are two Pob in this video low and high budget but those are also not the Pob of the "3.2 - MF FARMER - MEDIUM BUDGET (Standard + League)"
The medium budget build is corresponding to the high budget build of the video. I agree I should make these more consistent. Always looking for improvements, thank you for your feedback!
great video it helped me alot. one question about crucible passive tree: I'm torn between skill supported by level 10 fork and level 10 energy leech? Since I'm mf in a party I can't pick dd below 100 strength. I don't run awakened fork and feel like fork might give me better clear but energy leech would allow me to regen es since I have a mana guardian and somewhat compensate the loss from blood rage draining es
You need to socket your Tornado Shot in your body armour for high budget, so that's not really and issue. If you were to put TS into your weapon just go for Fork, sure
Small correction, the chance of hitting the +1 arrows is 1/400 since you have to account for: 6mod corrupt, white socket corrupt, nothing corrupt Ergo 1/100 if you hit an implicit 1/4 chance to hit one = 1/400 otherwise nice video
You are actually right. Thank you for the note. In any case this still remains the only way to get access to such a quiver for cheap. In fact, quiver corrupting is very profitable.
Hello sir. For a bufget at 80 DIVI, i need copy your low budget pob ? and for later, how many divi i will need for switch hight budget you think pliz ? ^^ ty alor for your videos
There is not a predetermined budget but 80 divines should be totally fine, for high budget you need to mirror your bow and craft a gg body armour so that's pretty sure at least a couple mirrors consodering the fees
is headhunter mandatory ? and if without hh, can i run high budget maps ? if not, can i run crimson temple with low budget ? or it must be high budget, thanks for the great vid :)
I don't like using Mageblood, cause Dying Sun and Divination Distillate are already mandatory. If you really want you could get Gold Flask + Quicksilver Flask + Bismuth Flask for Mageblood.
It works for every league. I'm in the process of making some updates, that's why some calcs may not work at the moment. They will soon be functional again though
Hey, my flasks are always up cause I have high flask charges gained via eldthrich jewel ascendancy. The only flasks you need to press is Divination Distillate, since you cannot apply enchants to it
With the change to vengeant cascade changes do swap a support gem for the new returning projectiles support when playing lighting arrow or do we simply ignore LA all together and only play TS?
Hey, I'll be honest here. I don't have much experience with Champion Corrupting Fever. I heard good things about it though. I like the classic Ranger approach, but maybe I will try that build variant in the future!
How do you make your currency before you have the headhunter? It looks like MF builds only really start to shine after you get headhunter. Do you like start off the league with MF or do you respec into it later on when you made some currency elsewhere?
I would start the League with MF only if I have an Aurabot friend. Otherwise go for an other character before. You can still play MF as Low Budget but is way harder.
Play a strong league starter build like RF Jugg or ES Ballista Elementalist and bast maps like amadman if you are a casual like me you will get your HH in 2 weeks lol
I'm not sure about that tbh. I think Bisco's with rarity rampage scaling is just better at that point, no matter the map tier you play. As long as you can play t8+ that's fine. You are losing eldritch altars and map drops only
In Crucible league I bought and tested Replica TWICE and both times I found it lackluster compared to Bisco’s. Especially if you can fit x2 Inspired Learning. Rampage is great and consistent, and you can actually notice the rarity ramp while mapping.
Hi exosta, steelskin and molten shell are have shared cooldown, so if u place molten shell on left click, ur cwdt steelskin setup will be not working at all because steelskin will be at CD al the time
hi do u have a separate pob or a short 'guide' for duo/trio mf build? First time mfing and idk how much res I need or even if I need those marks if i play with a aurabot+cursebot... can i get ventor that has max quan/rare but 0 res? if i have a cursebot do i still need snipermark setup? will the unique bodyarmor better than the double awakened?
In a Party you can focus on getting max IIQ and IIR. You don't really need to heavy invest in Auras but since the strongest Aura/Curse applies, I would keep my character balanced and put some curse/auras for myself
Looking at the Low Budget tree, do we not pick up Multishot for the 1 additional proj? seems like a strong cluster. On mobile rn so I'm not able to check pob atm. Thank you for the guides! Never tried MF but I've always wanted to get into it.
Hi, steel skin and moletn shel dont stack. they share cooldown. so if molten shel on your left click, cwdt wont cast stil skin. (so as immortal call or any "guard" tag gem)
@@Exosta i will use with cwdt frost bomb 1/20 (divergent) or hydrosphere 1/20. depend on how much mana i have to spare. but both really good p.s sory for my manners. GREAT guide. thank you for all the information and specialy for spreadsheet.
Hi there..Trying to figure out some things. You show the aura setup in your bow, and tornado in armour for the high budget. But when you show de gameplay for high budget it wasnt the same itens and ou dont use auras..Can you explain why? Thanks!
I do use Auras, I just made them invisible with the invisible MTX. Also the items look difference because I used some Skin Transfer MTX. My setup is pretty much the same I showcased in the video.
i want to give a try to low budget league MF. Do you think i can farm low tier map and make currency, like tower tier 4 this league ? Or is it a waste of time ? What is the low budget MF gear aimed to farm? thanks for the video
Before high budget you are reliant on your Flasks. Since you are always killing monsters Divination Distillate is pretty much always up. If you really want to be capped simply get yourself a large cluster jewel with 12 passives and 4% ele res
After the changes they made in the Kalandra (monster base quantity, beyond etc.) I thought MF was almost dead but you said it is in a good position, why?
MF is pretty much in the same spot as always, since it was not directly nerfed. Also, since loot is now more scarse after the repeated nerfs MF is more important than ever to get some decent drops. Ofc MF is gonna shine the most in league with juicing content, like Scourge, but no matter the league MF will always be the best profit/hour ratio, especially if you can play with a team. If solo you need the investment in initial cost, but after you get started you can farm 20% deli as solo in league, which will always net great profit.
I know it is a dumb question, but can I use this build with assassin? I am lvl 98 and it would be painful to lvl up new character........ If yes, what do you think it would be the best ascendancy?
Hi, in the budget PoB the large clusters are named Maim + Leech but you dont have the maim nodes selected on them, is this intentional? Also does it matter which one of those 3 we use or can it be just maim + any one left?
You need a third notable to have the best 2 on the closest side of the clusters. Taking or not the Maim notable is optional depending on how many clusters you have!
since i already have a headhunter i started crafting the clusters, im kinda running low on money and still need a few gear pieces. can i get your input where to start exactly when i'm right between the budget and high end version of the build? i feel like going for the low budget makes me way too weak and i already have most of the gear for the high end except for the quiver, bow, thread of hope and forbidden flame/flesh. im kinda lost :/
Like I mentioned, the Low Budget build is rather weak and it would feel much much better playing with an Aurabot. That said I highly recommend to go for T11 Maps and put Cast on Death Portal in your setup. For upgrading your build I'd recommend starting from the Rare Bow and the Clusters.
@@Exosta how do i tackle the cold conversion missing from the synthbase quiver and the watchers eye? i thought about getting a crucible tree with master fletcher allocation so i can save 4 points and put them into the cold conversion mastery but other than that i have no idea how to get more since I want to wear sadimas
If u go cheap on ventors gamble, your resist is going to suffer badly. The resists have a very large range they can roll from negative 40ish to positive 50. Spend the 4 or 5 divines on each ventor and your res will be capped without flasks.
If u go cheap on ventors gamble, your resist is going to suffer badly. The resists have a very large range they can roll from negative 40ish to positive 50. Spend the 4 or 5 divines on each ventor and your res will be capped without flasks.
Our total unreserved Mana should be about 80, Sniper's Mark costs about 30 Mana. If you have problems with Auras just drop Herald of Purity until you can get more Mana Reservation Efficiency
Hey there, in your low budget gameplay portion you have vengeance cascade anointed instead of sovereignty and aren't using ts. What's up with that? kinda misleading compared to the pob
I mentioned in the video at the amulet slide, that you can use 2 skills, either lightning arrow or tornado shot. If you use lightning arrow you go vengeant cascade, if you use tornado sovereigntt is better
@@Exosta You make it seem like swapping the two is easy when keeping the same auras without sovereignty is gonna be on a far larger budget. How are you making up for the reservation loss then?
It's pretty much the same. Just swap the Amulet anoint to Vengeant Cascade, then add some Reservation Efficiency Corruptions on Jewels so you can still play all your Auras. If you can't fit auras, drop herald of purity.
Depends on your farming strategy tbh. If you want to go full juice as solo player you need some mahor investment, like mirroring bow, quiver and getting gg cluster jewels. If you plan to play with a decent aurabot you can go as low as 20 divines id say
no idea how you are supposed to survive anything with it. im leveling the character right now. level 67, basically have the full set of gear. mix of low and high budget. and even in the campaign i die constantly. not sure what im doing wrong
At level 67 the build is extremely squishy and bosses are very very hard. You can use some Ballistas, but is not getting much better. As I mentioned if you want to League Start with this build you need a Party, it's pretty much unavoidable. Different thing is if you simply go to Map and then swap for MF at level 90-95. That's gonna work much smoother. For Low Budget in general, an Aurabot is recommended (you can solo T8-T11 Maps with low-budget). If you invest enough in the High Budget variant of the build you can solo T16 maps with like 20-60% delirium
This my first league attempting an mf build and i have to ask, how do i make this build a little more defensive?i feel like i need 50 headhunter stacks to not die. I have a little over a mirror invested in this build, max res, all the same items on including the corruptions (extra curse, ele weakness on hit, no corrupts on hh cause im not crazy). Damage is not an issue, just feel a bit squishy, i can still finish the maps but sometimes i use all portals to do so. Id like to be able to run maps with my buddies and mf for them but i cant survive when i scale the map with players.
@@Exosta i also noticed that you avoided the mana nodes on the top right of the tree which includes the 12% increased reservation mastery. For 3 points i was able to take that amd instead of taking the expensive thread of hope i opted for the mana res i already spoke of and took the aura cluster nodes up top with damage per aura mastery. I obviously miss out on the hired killer and ele pen, but saved a bit of divines in the process. Gave me 92 unreserved mana. Can i get your input on this change?
I wanna make a semi-mf build that is strong enough to reliably do juiced T16s. the PoB looks very suspicious, I really doubt it can do anything solo. are you sure this full-unique low budget build actually works?
In fact, I don't. As I mentioned, if you use Windripper you can't go Secrets of Suffering. For the endgame I recommend to drop Windripper and use Secrets of Suffering.
Yes the Life pool is very small, and this feels glass cannon on Low Budget. However Determination, Defiance Banner, Molten Shell or CWDT+Steelskin/IC can really help with survivability, tanking a bit of hits. For sure that's the weak aspect of the build.
As I mentioned, you should not be playing a Low Budget MF Build on T14-T16 Maps. Better go for T8-T11. When you upgrade your build a little you can start going to T14-16
This build is not working. He uses tornado shots in the pob settings, but he introduces the lightning arrow in the video. I have tried both tornado shot and lightning arrow. It definitely doesn't work as shown in the video. Please do not do this build. Not working...
I explained in great detail that there are 2 options: 1 is TS, which is more suitable for high budget, and it's a bit better against Unique monsters. 2 is LA which is very nice on a budget for mapping, especially with the Vengeant Cascade Anointment on your Amulet. Also, don't use Vengeant Cascade with TS, it doesn't work. Use it only with LA. I'm not really sure what do you mean by "not working". Ofc this build is not as strong as non-MF builds, which means you die way more on Low budget, but the build is functional.
@@Exosta There is no description for this skill in your demo video (Vengeant Cascade). The annoint you get in the pob settings is completely different. You play in the standard league and share a video like 3.21. None of your explanations are included in the low budget build. There are huge differences between the video and the shared pob. Specially, it cannot damage the build tier7 rare monsters that you share as low budget.
@@erseltemel9910 I'm using only non-Legacy gear, so yeah that's a League PoB for this expansion. Also I mention Vengeant Cascade full well in the video. Check minute 08:40...
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I’m around 80-90% into the high budget league version and I’m having more fun mapping than I think I ever have. It feels so nice entering a map knowing the impact MF makes.
Can’t thank you enough for your time and effort. Looking forward to migrating this bad boy to standard and continuing the quest!
Peace and Love
Very insightful, thank you again for such great information.
Great video and good information as always. Been watching your videos and have been using your discord since 3.13.
the irony of it all is that you need so much currency to builkd an mf that its not by any means new player friendly i aint spending 2000 hours building smth that will last 1 month this is absurd ! gratz for the vid tho detailed and comprehensive
Well, when it comes to League play you don't really need to mirror that many items, at most Bow and Quiver, you can self craft a body armour very easily. You can make 1 mirror so fast by just playing the game with a Party, big groups do that all the time. If you want to migrate your League build to Standard it's better, because then MF becomes a long term project. I personally spent about 40 mirrors on my standard build in total, over the span of 2 years. What I did was starting with a character worth about 2-3 mirrors, then mirror the next item when I actually gained 1 mirror, which didn't require much time really, about 1 week playing 3-4 hours per day. It should be mentioned though that I obtained my build back before 3.13, when you could easily obtain multiple headhunter drops per day while playing MF. I also got 3 pure Mirror drops in Standard over the years, but I never played that many hours per day. Emcii and Kaoms Heart, other 2 standard player got 8 mirror drops and 11m mirror drops in Standard over the years, because they played much more than me. I am telling you this not because I want to flex, but simply because you have to understand how MFing can make you mirrors, and many of them if you play for long.
For the divination distillate, one could "skip" the planning and the petrified blood by getting the Master Surgeon forbidden jewels which, from this league, grant the enduring effect on all life flasks (flask effect is not removed at full life, flask effect does not queue). Hybrid flasks apparently count as life flasks too (but dont't count as mana flasks for some reason)
That's true, but I like the fact petrified blood opens access to more aura to reserve on your life, such as precision or defiance banner
I love the fact that you can hear him slapping away on the keyboard yet nothing is being activated by it. I call this fake aF. And majority of the build is just a standard MF Windripper build. Even the highend version is.
The keyboard strikes are my flasks. I alwasy spam them to keep the alchemist genious bonus always active, and because i am used to the old flask piano meta. The builds were tested in Standard but with absolutely NO legacy gear, using the exact items of the path of building for temp league that I showcase for both low budget and high budget.
Great video. Very helpful and informative
another great video! nice one mate x
Hi, thanks for the builds!
I have a quick question, in the spreadsheet there is a build named "3.2 - MF FARMER - MEDIUM BUDGET (Standard + League)" I might be wrong but i think this builds Pob is wrong one. For example in Pob there are forbidden flesh and flame but in the guide those jewels are placed in another build etc. And there are two Pob in this video low and high budget but those are also not the Pob of the "3.2 - MF FARMER - MEDIUM BUDGET (Standard + League)"
The medium budget build is corresponding to the high budget build of the video. I agree I should make these more consistent. Always looking for improvements, thank you for your feedback!
Amazing video, very informational :)
This video will help me a lot, thanks. 1 quetion: Is mandatory to have culling strike in dagger mastery and the culling strike in the marks pasives?
This setup will make you culling most of the time. But ofc it is not mandatory just very convenient to get imo
great video it helped me alot. one question about crucible passive tree: I'm torn between skill supported by level 10 fork and level 10 energy leech? Since I'm mf in a party I can't pick dd below 100 strength. I don't run awakened fork and feel like fork might give me better clear but energy leech would allow me to regen es since I have a mana guardian and somewhat compensate the loss from blood rage draining es
You need to socket your Tornado Shot in your body armour for high budget, so that's not really and issue. If you were to put TS into your weapon just go for Fork, sure
What atlas tree are you using with this exact build?
Hey man, you can find some good Farming Strategies for MF in the following video: th-cam.com/video/4aQKzhwOA2s/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Exosta
Small correction, the chance of hitting the +1 arrows is 1/400 since you have to account for: 6mod corrupt, white socket corrupt, nothing corrupt
Ergo 1/100 if you hit an implicit 1/4 chance to hit one = 1/400
otherwise nice video
You are actually right. Thank you for the note. In any case this still remains the only way to get access to such a quiver for cheap. In fact, quiver corrupting is very profitable.
Hello sir.
For a bufget at 80 DIVI, i need copy your low budget pob ?
and for later, how many divi i will need for switch hight budget you think pliz ? ^^
ty alor for your videos
There is not a predetermined budget but 80 divines should be totally fine, for high budget you need to mirror your bow and craft a gg body armour so that's pretty sure at least a couple mirrors consodering the fees
@@Exosta wow couple mirrors ^^'
I will never get enought hehe
is headhunter mandatory ? and if without hh, can i run high budget maps ? if not, can i run crimson temple with low budget ? or it must be high budget, thanks for the great vid :)
Well, for a serious mf build that farma t16 you need hh. However you can use biscos for t8 to t11 maps
Hey, where do you deal with bleeding pls ?
Just get one corrupted blood jewel
very good guide, what would be the flask configuration in the low budget for the mageblood?
I don't like using Mageblood, cause Dying Sun and Divination Distillate are already mandatory. If you really want you could get Gold Flask + Quicksilver Flask + Bismuth Flask for Mageblood.
Thanks for making PoE more interesting for us. Is your profit spreadsheet only for Standard or does it work in leagues also?
It works for every league. I'm in the process of making some updates, that's why some calcs may not work at the moment. They will soon be functional again though
Hi @Exosta, for the low budget flask setup, you need to manually click every flasks whenever they are up? I don't see you using autoflask
Hey, my flasks are always up cause I have high flask charges gained via eldthrich jewel ascendancy. The only flasks you need to press is Divination Distillate, since you cannot apply enchants to it
With the change to vengeant cascade changes do swap a support gem for the new returning projectiles support when playing lighting arrow or do we simply ignore LA all together and only play TS?
LA is certainly the way to go at low budget no matter what. As for returning projectiles im in the process of testing it
Is you filter standard exclusive or do you have a league version available?
Generally speaking, stuff in League is cheaper than Standard, so you should not have problems using my Standard Filter in League.
I have a bunch of legacy quantity rares and uniques rotting away in my standard stash, thank you for making me wanna build something from it
Ascetic gives more mf bonuses. Also if you like standard the next video will be for you!
I'm personally a fan of spinefuse talismans. 10% quantity as an implicit and you can get other stats on it as well.
What is your opinion on MF for champion corrupting fever? Thank you for your amazing guides and spreadsheet
Hey, I'll be honest here. I don't have much experience with Champion Corrupting Fever. I heard good things about it though. I like the classic Ranger approach, but maybe I will try that build variant in the future!
@@Exosta Thank you for your reply. Good luck with the rest of the league!
Is it possible to do an EK version? And if yes, what would change on the gear & tree?
I'm not that expert about EK tbh, try to ask in the MF academy discord. However I can tell that it should be cheaper to play in theory
How do you make your currency before you have the headhunter? It looks like MF builds only really start to shine after you get headhunter. Do you like start off the league with MF or do you respec into it later on when you made some currency elsewhere?
I would start the League with MF only if I have an Aurabot friend. Otherwise go for an other character before. You can still play MF as Low Budget but is way harder.
Play a strong league starter build like RF Jugg or ES Ballista Elementalist and bast maps like amadman if you are a casual like me you will get your HH in 2 weeks lol
Is the replica headhunter option viable before the actual headhunter to do the t16 maps?
I'm not sure about that tbh. I think Bisco's with rarity rampage scaling is just better at that point, no matter the map tier you play. As long as you can play t8+ that's fine. You are losing eldritch altars and map drops only
In Crucible league I bought and tested Replica TWICE and both times I found it lackluster compared to Bisco’s. Especially if you can fit x2 Inspired Learning. Rampage is great and consistent, and you can actually notice the rarity ramp while mapping.
Hi exosta, steelskin and molten shell are have shared cooldown, so if u place molten shell on left click, ur cwdt steelskin setup will be not working at all because steelskin will be at CD al the time
You are right, I will fix that in the written guide
hi do u have a separate pob or a short 'guide' for duo/trio mf build? First time mfing and idk how much res I need or even if I need those marks if i play with a aurabot+cursebot... can i get ventor that has max quan/rare but 0 res? if i have a cursebot do i still need snipermark setup? will the unique bodyarmor better than the double awakened?
In a Party you can focus on getting max IIQ and IIR. You don't really need to heavy invest in Auras but since the strongest Aura/Curse applies, I would keep my character balanced and put some curse/auras for myself
Looking at the Low Budget tree, do we not pick up Multishot for the 1 additional proj? seems like a strong cluster. On mobile rn so I'm not able to check pob atm. Thank you for the guides! Never tried MF but I've always wanted to get into it.
Well, it really depends on your Level. In the video I was Level 94, that's why.
Hi, steel skin and moletn shel dont stack. they share cooldown. so if molten shel on your left click, cwdt wont cast stil skin. (so as immortal call or any "guard" tag gem)
Yes, that was my mistake, sorry for that. I will put an edit on pinned messages
@@Exosta i will use with cwdt frost bomb 1/20 (divergent) or hydrosphere 1/20. depend on how much mana i have to spare. but both really good
p.s sory for my manners. GREAT guide. thank you for all the information and specialy for spreadsheet.
What mastery you chose , above Longshot 27:13
@Exosta
Hi there..Trying to figure out some things. You show the aura setup in your bow, and tornado in armour for the high budget. But when you show de gameplay for high budget it wasnt the same itens and ou dont use auras..Can you explain why? Thanks!
I do use Auras, I just made them invisible with the invisible MTX. Also the items look difference because I used some Skin Transfer MTX. My setup is pretty much the same I showcased in the video.
i want to give a try to low budget league MF. Do you think i can farm low tier map and make currency, like tower tier 4 this league ? Or is it a waste of time ? What is the low budget MF gear aimed to farm? thanks for the video
The bare minimum should be tier 8 maps with area level 75, so you can drop t0 uniques.
I dont think PoBs are updated?both PoBs show tornado shot, different amu enchant etc
I explained in the video that you can use both TS and LA, and you need to swap anointments accordingly (Sovereignty for TS, Vengeant Cascade for LA)
also i probably missed something but how do you max your resistances o.O even with 40% res ventors i dont even get close to max res
Before high budget you are reliant on your Flasks. Since you are always killing monsters Divination Distillate is pretty much always up. If you really want to be capped simply get yourself a large cluster jewel with 12 passives and 4% ele res
After the changes they made in the Kalandra (monster base quantity, beyond etc.) I thought MF was almost dead but you said it is in a good position, why?
MF is pretty much in the same spot as always, since it was not directly nerfed. Also, since loot is now more scarse after the repeated nerfs MF is more important than ever to get some decent drops. Ofc MF is gonna shine the most in league with juicing content, like Scourge, but no matter the league MF will always be the best profit/hour ratio, especially if you can play with a team. If solo you need the investment in initial cost, but after you get started you can farm 20% deli as solo in league, which will always net great profit.
@@Exosta Good answer. So I can go for it for sure.
I know it is a dumb question, but can I use this build with assassin? I am lvl 98 and it would be painful to lvl up new character........ If yes, what do you think it would be the best ascendancy?
It's doable, but I am honest here, I never made such a build variant. The thing you'll miss the most is the Flask Effect I guess.
How strong ist the build with starter gear (you low budget setup). Enough for yellow maps? Or is it just enough to farm juided white maps?
It can go up to tier 11, in my experience.
@@Exosta Thx. And are farming juiced white maps good, too? The most uniques are not really high level. Or are dropping way more items in red maps?
Hi, in the budget PoB the large clusters are named Maim + Leech but you dont have the maim nodes selected on them, is this intentional? Also does it matter which one of those 3 we use or can it be just maim + any one left?
You need a third notable to have the best 2 on the closest side of the clusters. Taking or not the Maim notable is optional depending on how many clusters you have!
since i already have a headhunter i started crafting the clusters, im kinda running low on money and still need a few gear pieces. can i get your input where to start exactly when i'm right between the budget and high end version of the build? i feel like going for the low budget makes me way too weak and i already have most of the gear for the high end except for the quiver, bow, thread of hope and forbidden flame/flesh. im kinda lost :/
also what would you drop to get the cold conversion mastery? hatred + cold conversion watchers eye is imho way too expensive
Like I mentioned, the Low Budget build is rather weak and it would feel much much better playing with an Aurabot. That said I highly recommend to go for T11 Maps and put Cast on Death Portal in your setup. For upgrading your build I'd recommend starting from the Rare Bow and the Clusters.
@@Exosta how do i tackle the cold conversion missing from the synthbase quiver and the watchers eye?
i thought about getting a crucible tree with master fletcher allocation so i can save 4 points and put them into the cold conversion mastery
but other than that i have no idea how to get more since I want to wear sadimas
@@LOUDKiDx You can obtain that from vinktar. you dont need to convert to cold only, we are not really scaling cold after all
I dont get it i got Not resistance Even when i activate the Flasks im Not Capped and i got the Same Stuff (low budget build) How ist this possible?
Make sure your Ventor's and Bisco's have catalysts on. If you still have issues just fit in an all res jewel
@@Exosta what do you mean with catalyst?
If u go cheap on ventors gamble, your resist is going to suffer badly. The resists have a very large range they can roll from negative 40ish to positive 50. Spend the 4 or 5 divines on each ventor and your res will be capped without flasks.
If u go cheap on ventors gamble, your resist is going to suffer badly. The resists have a very large range they can roll from negative 40ish to positive 50. Spend the 4 or 5 divines on each ventor and your res will be capped without flasks.
I think there is a problem in the High Budget PoB. It says that you don't have enough mana to use Sniper's Mark. How can we fix it?
Our total unreserved Mana should be about 80, Sniper's Mark costs about 30 Mana. If you have problems with Auras just drop Herald of Purity until you can get more Mana Reservation Efficiency
Hey there, in your low budget gameplay portion you have vengeance cascade anointed instead of sovereignty and aren't using ts. What's up with that? kinda misleading compared to the pob
I mentioned in the video at the amulet slide, that you can use 2 skills, either lightning arrow or tornado shot. If you use lightning arrow you go vengeant cascade, if you use tornado sovereigntt is better
@@Exosta You make it seem like swapping the two is easy when keeping the same auras without sovereignty is gonna be on a far larger budget. How are you making up for the reservation loss then?
@@iceman-gv3pp check the pob!
pob for lightning arrow budget build ? tkz
It's pretty much the same. Just swap the Amulet anoint to Vengeant Cascade, then add some Reservation Efficiency Corruptions on Jewels so you can still play all your Auras. If you can't fit auras, drop herald of purity.
How many Div the build needs to work??????
Depends on your farming strategy tbh. If you want to go full juice as solo player you need some mahor investment, like mirroring bow, quiver and getting gg cluster jewels. If you plan to play with a decent aurabot you can go as low as 20 divines id say
The Pastebins are not working for me, I have tried other pastebins and they work fine but these 2 do not.
i use pob community fork, download that
no idea how you are supposed to survive anything with it. im leveling the character right now. level 67, basically have the full set of gear. mix of low and high budget. and even in the campaign i die constantly. not sure what im doing wrong
At level 67 the build is extremely squishy and bosses are very very hard. You can use some Ballistas, but is not getting much better. As I mentioned if you want to League Start with this build you need a Party, it's pretty much unavoidable. Different thing is if you simply go to Map and then swap for MF at level 90-95. That's gonna work much smoother. For Low Budget in general, an Aurabot is recommended (you can solo T8-T11 Maps with low-budget). If you invest enough in the High Budget variant of the build you can solo T16 maps with like 20-60% delirium
This my first league attempting an mf build and i have to ask, how do i make this build a little more defensive?i feel like i need 50 headhunter stacks to not die. I have a little over a mirror invested in this build, max res, all the same items on including the corruptions (extra curse, ele weakness on hit, no corrupts on hh cause im not crazy). Damage is not an issue, just feel a bit squishy, i can still finish the maps but sometimes i use all portals to do so. Id like to be able to run maps with my buddies and mf for them but i cant survive when i scale the map with players.
When playing a party in league you need an aurabot
@@Exosta i also noticed that you avoided the mana nodes on the top right of the tree which includes the 12% increased reservation mastery. For 3 points i was able to take that amd instead of taking the expensive thread of hope i opted for the mana res i already spoke of and took the aura cluster nodes up top with damage per aura mastery. I obviously miss out on the hired killer and ele pen, but saved a bit of divines in the process. Gave me 92 unreserved mana. Can i get your input on this change?
I wanna make a semi-mf build that is strong enough to reliably do juiced T16s. the PoB looks very suspicious, I really doubt it can do anything solo. are you sure this full-unique low budget build actually works?
This is the old video, check the updated one on my channel for 3.22!
from where do you get Vengeant Cascade
It's an anoint
how did you make enough to afford the high budget?
I both farmed and crafted my way to the high budget build variant.
hey, im lvl 91 and i have 20 divine saved up is this enough to start a mf charakter ?
I'd recommend to reach level 94-95 first
why u use windripper and secrets of suffering, if you can't apply nor shock nor freeze
In fact, I don't. As I mentioned, if you use Windripper you can't go Secrets of Suffering. For the endgame I recommend to drop Windripper and use Secrets of Suffering.
What is considered low budget? Less than 1 Divine? Less that 10 divines? Great guide and community btw
Well MF Builds have a high entry level cost. In my opinion we speak about 5-10 divines.
@@Exosta Only 'split personality' costs 7+ div )
@@ТимурТимофеев-ф5д this is not a mandatory item and gets much cheaper later on
Can we see your atlas ?
I will cover this extensively in an upcoming video of the MF Guide Series!
Anyone has the pob? please
The new pob for 3.23 is released in my discord, check the mf build pob page and the strategy guide inside
thanks bro @@Exosta
please tell me name your ho
It is made by me, I didn't upload it anywhere
2800 total life, with petrified blood on. That's so incredibly small lol
Yes the Life pool is very small, and this feels glass cannon on Low Budget. However Determination, Defiance Banner, Molten Shell or CWDT+Steelskin/IC can really help with survivability, tanking a bit of hits. For sure that's the weak aspect of the build.
Made the low budget build and am getting one shot by every single mob in T14-16 maps, no juice, no scarabs, nothing. Shit sucks.
As I mentioned, you should not be playing a Low Budget MF Build on T14-T16 Maps. Better go for T8-T11. When you upgrade your build a little you can start going to T14-16
This build is not working. He uses tornado shots in the pob settings, but he introduces the lightning arrow in the video. I have tried both tornado shot and lightning arrow. It definitely doesn't work as shown in the video. Please do not do this build. Not working...
I explained in great detail that there are 2 options: 1 is TS, which is more suitable for high budget, and it's a bit better against Unique monsters. 2 is LA which is very nice on a budget for mapping, especially with the Vengeant Cascade Anointment on your Amulet. Also, don't use Vengeant Cascade with TS, it doesn't work. Use it only with LA.
I'm not really sure what do you mean by "not working". Ofc this build is not as strong as non-MF builds, which means you die way more on Low budget, but the build is functional.
@@Exosta There is no description for this skill in your demo video (Vengeant Cascade). The annoint you get in the pob settings is completely different. You play in the standard league and share a video like 3.21. None of your explanations are included in the low budget build. There are huge differences between the video and the shared pob. Specially, it cannot damage the build tier7 rare monsters that you share as low budget.
@@erseltemel9910 I'm using only non-Legacy gear, so yeah that's a League PoB for this expansion. Also I mention Vengeant Cascade full well in the video. Check minute 08:40...
bro you spend so much time explaining some very basic stuff with very long sentences. i just got bored and closed the video
Thank you for the feedback. Being new as a content creator I do many mistakes. I hope to get better with the following videos! Cheers