People seems to go all in regarding MF, i dont see much people using a balance of some items to not destroy survivability. I’m considering just putting 1 pariah, the boots and divination distilate to focus on quant while not screwing my chararacter, would this be viable? If yes what would be optimal atlas strategy regarding it ?
Bisco's Leash. That Rampage just feels good and it's pretty much usable on every build and it doesn't even weaken the build very much like putting on a pair of Sadimas would
As much as I would love to see quant rolls back on rares it would probably be too game warping. Even at 5-10% an item slot, most characters are mappers… and we would just be running with one fewer suffixes on our rares.
I hate destroying my build and tearing it apart because MF exists. There is no point in building the strongest possible build. instead, swapping 3-4 items for MF garbage is kinda forced down our throats. Really sucks tbh. The MF should be based on juice and difficulty of the map/location. Not how much you fucked over your build. It is a power fantasy build. We should be allowed to focus on making our builds as strong and cool as possible without being screwed over because of it.
you are…? just don’t build mf? i don’t most leagues. sometimes i do post league starter because i want to/it’s fun. it’s not insanely more profitable than other methods of making divines in the game. you wanna be rich rich play poe trade and craft. otherwise just build how you wanna build. im playing to get my char as powerful as possible rn while just selling lifeforce and rogues markers, it’s like 3-4 divine an hour.
can you make a video of how to run maps a as a magic find? i wanna try to drop an aphotecary for the first time, dont know what to expect into in atlas tree for that
I'm a casual poer that was around during beta. Item quantity was THE meta for the first couple of years, because items drops were worse than current Ruthless league. GGG nerfed quant gear because the current game already has like 1000% quant built in compared to the old days. The game was dying because the need for quant gear overrode ALL other build considerations, leading to a very boring meta.
and in 3.18 league this reached the other extreme, with triple beyond 100% delirium farming nutjobs dropping 15 000 unique items from a single map. So much loot was being generated that it produced serious server load issues. Loot that was never even considered to be picked up. Players were brute-forcing rare items - if you purchase a million lottery tickets you'll win the jackpot. So then 3.19 happened and brought much-needed reduction to this nonsense. And what shitstorm it invoked, oh boy.
Agree. I always regret not starting mf and wasting my time on bosses. Back couple years ago I always started with a kb with a second setup with barrage haha good old times. Found a mirror in abyss league
It is important to say, that the first 100% quant mean the same as the second 100%quant, (eg 1 div => 2div => 3div), but in relation it is less (*2 => *1.5)
most MF is useless in this game. The small amount you can get from gear and dis-div flask barely touches the weights of any decent items in this game. What actually does more is just playing league content. Ironically the Crucible mobs all have stacked rarity at values over 2000%, but they drop nothing. Typical POE MF right there.
I always not sure which is better a well rounded build that can do deli40-60 with ease or a MF build that struggle to do deli20 (assuming both has same clear speed) which will have a better result.
@@andrewdnistriansky3719 yeah i try to run some number of them but I dont have a large enough sample size, and the profit go up and down a lot sometime just because lucky altar spawns.
From the wiki "Like chests, increased Item Quantity from gear does not increase the number of items dropped from a strongbox. However, map quantity and the number of players do increase the number of items dropped from most strongboxes.[4] The only exception is the Cartographer's Strongbox, where the number of players does not increase the number of map drops." Is that not true? Thanks for the vid!
Do you think the master surgeon flame/flesh will go up in price? I'm not yet at a point where I can magicfind (don't have HH/Mageblood yet) but considering changing my farshot flesh-flame for mastersurgeon and running divinationdistilate. Edit: Or will my 1600 eDps bow carry my damage enough to run MF without big-belt?
They'll probably increase in price but they're absolutely unnecessary for distillate, just let you drop petrified blood. With ele bow HH mostly gives you only defences and ms so unless you gave really strong defences you'll die a ton without it
@@andrewdnistriansky3719is there any way to use it without petrified blood? I don’t know whether it’s worth to use master surgeon, it takes 2 jewel socket. I use grace-purity of elements-precision now, cannot afford to use petrified blood
@@user-cy6qh4pv9y just use small cluster for mana reservation or reserve some small aura with life with arrogance support since you don't need 50% of hp. Or don't use distillate, it's doesn't give that much
Increase loot by gimping your build with these items. I mean.. you can run with an aurabot and still get fuck all in this game. I prefer to just kill quicker than take quantity and rarity items.
I bought vendor's gamble for 2 c and bisco's leash for 1 c and replaced my flexible slots, then went to normal exarch and omni dropped (58% quant). I guess it kinda works ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I tried MF last league and haven't found any apothecaries. Thank god for winged sextant + harvest bench strategy because I would have burned a fuck ton of currency on this nonsense. I was able to (sort of) sustain this by dropping 3 winged scarabs each map and never running out of sextant charges obviously (2500 yellow juice per map, earned back via harvest yellow + contain harvest, fourth compass was 600% strongox (elevated version of 500%) This league they killed this technique, as the bench craft only has 50% chance to not consume charges. Sextant costs 11 divines and will give you about 96 winged scarabs if you use the harvest bench craft on each map. 23 chaos per winged scarab on sextants alone + the value of 80k yellow juice = another 10 div. This is 21 div already sunk into 32 maps that will likely give you fuck all. Yeeee this is completely dead, don't bother, you'll delete currency.
@@andrewdnistriansky3719 Its not about liking or not, why would the game reward you for the shitty mod on ur gear more than for doing the harderst content. It creates trash need to wear those trash items so u can have more loot cuz of trash mod.
the atlas tree works however you plan it. It just lets you filter out some content you don't want to boost. Literally anything you do will profit. If you want a solid farm right now take Abyss with the snake node at the top. Pair it up with some other in-map content that you can fly through, like Essence or delirium and you will rake it in.
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What is your Favorite Magic Find Item?
Pariah
People seems to go all in regarding MF, i dont see much people using a balance of some items to not destroy survivability. I’m considering just putting 1 pariah, the boots and divination distilate to focus on quant while not screwing my chararacter, would this be viable? If yes what would be optimal atlas strategy regarding it ?
honestly, id probably still be using bisco's if it didn't have MF on it just to pick up rampage without losing my glove slot to wyrmsign lmao
I've got an old fencer helmet with I think 28 or 32% quant on it. All builds around that in standard.
Bisco's Leash. That Rampage just feels good and it's pretty much usable on every build and it doesn't even weaken the build very much like putting on a pair of Sadimas would
"Get your magic find characters ready!"
-Sir Christopher Wilson
yeah because all your builds are fucked after nerfs.
As much as I would love to see quant rolls back on rares it would probably be too game warping. Even at 5-10% an item slot, most characters are mappers… and we would just be running with one fewer suffixes on our rares.
I've got legacy quant gear but it's really hard to run good stuff like delirium. You still can but it's soooo expensive.
I hate destroying my build and tearing it apart because MF exists. There is no point in building the strongest possible build. instead, swapping 3-4 items for MF garbage is kinda forced down our throats. Really sucks tbh. The MF should be based on juice and difficulty of the map/location. Not how much you fucked over your build. It is a power fantasy build. We should be allowed to focus on making our builds as strong and cool as possible without being screwed over because of it.
you are…? just don’t build mf? i don’t most leagues. sometimes i do post league starter because i want to/it’s fun. it’s not insanely more profitable than other methods of making divines in the game. you wanna be rich rich play poe trade and craft. otherwise just build how you wanna build. im playing to get my char as powerful as possible rn while just selling lifeforce and rogues markers, it’s like 3-4 divine an hour.
Don't buy the uniques, they are shit. Get some rares with 20% quant and some nice stats.
Great content as always. Imma implement MF to my CF champ and run Cemetery, let's make up for the league mechanic not giving any loot 💪
can you make a video of how to run maps a as a magic find? i wanna try to drop an aphotecary for the first time, dont know what to expect into in atlas tree for that
I'm a casual poer that was around during beta. Item quantity was THE meta for the first couple of years, because items drops were worse than current Ruthless league. GGG nerfed quant gear because the current game already has like 1000% quant built in compared to the old days. The game was dying because the need for quant gear overrode ALL other build considerations, leading to a very boring meta.
and in 3.18 league this reached the other extreme, with triple beyond 100% delirium farming nutjobs dropping 15 000 unique items from a single map. So much loot was being generated that it produced serious server load issues. Loot that was never even considered to be picked up. Players were brute-forcing rare items - if you purchase a million lottery tickets you'll win the jackpot.
So then 3.19 happened and brought much-needed reduction to this nonsense. And what shitstorm it invoked, oh boy.
Ah the good old days of Merc Dock farm public parties. "Docks MF 143iq/256ir no kill"
@@OnlyHereForCakeI was there back in 2013 I witnessed it all XD
They would have to remove fracturing orbs or make quant an influence mod only because otherwise every gear slot would be 20% fractured quant.
Agree. I always regret not starting mf and wasting my time on bosses. Back couple years ago I always started with a kb with a second setup with barrage haha good old times. Found a mirror in abyss league
It is important to say, that the first 100% quant mean the same as the second 100%quant, (eg 1 div => 2div => 3div), but in relation it is less (*2 => *1.5)
Quantity, or as I call it, more white items.
@@tehf00n You're not a very smart one then if you think quantity is useless.
id bisco's collar worth using? being restircted to only normal enemies for quant and rarity only for magic enemies is kinda bad or no?
Pretty much useless
most MF is useless in this game. The small amount you can get from gear and dis-div flask barely touches the weights of any decent items in this game. What actually does more is just playing league content. Ironically the Crucible mobs all have stacked rarity at values over 2000%, but they drop nothing. Typical POE MF right there.
Does MF affect blight reward chests. I run a lot of blight/ blight ravaged maps and was always curious
What about legion? Does quant and rarity not help legion chests?
Added ventors and apothecary dropped
I always not sure which is better a well rounded build that can do deli40-60 with ease or a MF build that struggle to do deli20 (assuming both has same clear speed) which will have a better result.
I believe 100/500 LA that can do deli mirror is better
@@andrewdnistriansky3719 yeah i try to run some number of them but I dont have a large enough sample size, and the profit go up and down a lot sometime just because lucky altar spawns.
If you have a great weapon and HH that will not be a problem for a MF build
@@andrewdnistriansky3719 what's 100/500 la?
@@ASchnacky 100 item quantity 500 item rarity
Is there another way to use divination distillate without petrified blood?
From the wiki "Like chests, increased Item Quantity from gear does not increase the number of items dropped from a strongbox. However, map quantity and the number of players do increase the number of items dropped from most strongboxes.[4] The only exception is the Cartographer's Strongbox, where the number of players does not increase the number of map drops."
Is that not true? Thanks for the vid!
Character mf doesn't fafect the loot from the strongbox itself, but it affects the loot that drops from the monsters that strongboxes spawn.
Character mf doesn't fafect the loot from the strongbox itself, but it affects the loot that drops from the monsters that strongboxes spawn.
I want to farm a headhunter, maybe this can be the way?
PoE wiki (Petrified Blood) : The character cannot recover life above low life by any means except with flasks.
i tried an mf build.. i literraly got less loot
Do you think the master surgeon flame/flesh will go up in price? I'm not yet at a point where I can magicfind (don't have HH/Mageblood yet) but considering changing my farshot flesh-flame for mastersurgeon and running divinationdistilate.
Edit: Or will my 1600 eDps bow carry my damage enough to run MF without big-belt?
They'll probably increase in price but they're absolutely unnecessary for distillate, just let you drop petrified blood. With ele bow HH mostly gives you only defences and ms so unless you gave really strong defences you'll die a ton without it
1600 is enough, you can also take bisco leash and kaom’s spirit for more damage
@@andrewdnistriansky3719is there any way to use it without petrified blood? I don’t know whether it’s worth to use master surgeon, it takes 2 jewel socket. I use grace-purity of elements-precision now, cannot afford to use petrified blood
@@andrewdnistriansky3719 Thanks for the info!
@@user-cy6qh4pv9y just use small cluster for mana reservation or reserve some small aura with life with arrogance support since you don't need 50% of hp. Or don't use distillate, it's doesn't give that much
Increase loot by gimping your build with these items.
I mean.. you can run with an aurabot and still get fuck all in this game. I prefer to just kill quicker than take quantity and rarity items.
I bought vendor's gamble for 2 c and bisco's leash for 1 c and replaced my flexible slots, then went to normal exarch and omni dropped (58% quant). I guess it kinda works ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hello, what does it mean that Item Quantity Support give 0% IIQ?
Does that work with Expedition currency in logbooks and in Maps?
Does not work with Expedition. Only Map Quant matters.
@@KOBEBLACKMAMBA do you know if IIQ on gear affects harvest lifeforce drops
@@hexalparky it doesn't
I wanna farm simulacrum splinters, i guess quantity is the way to go ?
Just buy a supporter pack, you will be lucky...
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I tried MF last league and haven't found any apothecaries. Thank god for winged sextant + harvest bench strategy because I would have burned a fuck ton of currency on this nonsense. I was able to (sort of) sustain this by dropping 3 winged scarabs each map and never running out of sextant charges obviously (2500 yellow juice per map, earned back via harvest yellow + contain harvest, fourth compass was 600% strongox (elevated version of 500%)
This league they killed this technique, as the bench craft only has 50% chance to not consume charges. Sextant costs 11 divines and will give you about 96 winged scarabs if you use the harvest bench craft on each map. 23 chaos per winged scarab on sextants alone + the value of 80k yellow juice = another 10 div. This is 21 div already sunk into 32 maps that will likely give you fuck all. Yeeee this is completely dead, don't bother, you'll delete currency.
Problem is you weren't able to run 8 mod maps whilst doing the harvest strat. 8 mod maps are a big part of the MF strat I think.
MF is most cancerous game design and should be removed
I disagree
But why if you don't like something you think that it necessarily has to be removed? Just avoid it and that's it
@@andrewdnistriansky3719 Its not about liking or not, why would the game reward you for the shitty mod on ur gear more than for doing the harderst content. It creates trash need to wear those trash items so u can have more loot cuz of trash mod.
@@andrewdnistriansky3719 the game gets balance around it and fucks up other aspects that would be relevant to him.
lol this is a diablo-like game, and you say MF should be removed from it?🤣
the answer is simple : destory the MF archetype.
Uninstall if you dont like it ot play other builds
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Magic find is extremely unbalanced and just make rich people richer, and should just be removed from the game.
Kobe to you have any guide for atlas tree yo used on your LA character to farm currency?
the atlas tree works however you plan it. It just lets you filter out some content you don't want to boost. Literally anything you do will profit. If you want a solid farm right now take Abyss with the snake node at the top. Pair it up with some other in-map content that you can fly through, like Essence or delirium and you will rake it in.
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